Gday Max, the comments were well answered, I can understand why you don’t want to weld on this machine after seeing in the cabinet, far bit going on there, great job mate, cheers
Very much enjoyed this second part, too. Lots of respect for that big machine, but more for your expertise and teaching. Thanks very much and hope you have a peaceful Sunday.
It was nice to see Moore and wright Sheffield engraved on your square . For my 16 th birthday my mum bought for me 0 to 1 inch m&r micrometer I gave it to my son when he started his apprenticeship. Oh back to finish. Higher speed lower feed lighter cut old maxim. Love your videos ❤
Really good machining series. Now to slow down an ac motor several options were used. A mechanical brake interlocked with the run contactor/relay. A contactor which shorts out the motor windings. A contactor which applies a dc current to the motor. A contactor which applies the reversed three phase supply across the motor windings. The simplest one I’ve seen used most often is a contactor which shorts the motor winding. This contactor is interlocked, both electrically and mechanically with the run contactor. I’m hope you will be able to find an industrial electrician to assist you. I love to help but it’s a bit far from the uk.
Thanks for the response. This may be a silly question but do you have any documentation for the electrical system. A 5 hp 3 phase motor would have a reasonable amount of inertia which the timers allow for. I think there may have been some form of dynamic braking which may have failed. Have a chat with your colleagues to see if they have any information. If not it’s an electrician to unravel the circuit.
A single insert in a face mill is pretty much a Fly Cutter. I have done that a lot, especially on a light weight machine. Great videos and fantastic content. Thanks Max!
I have been thinking for a while to myself “I should make a pair of angle plates for the Bridgeport mill one day”. I had no idea there is so much involved in just making a pair of angle plates. I was imagining I just saw some pieces off a galvanised steel window lintel & mill away. I now realise i was “dreamin” as Daniel Kerrigan said in the Castle movie. 😂😂 Another great video Max, always enjoy the learning experience, keep up the good work. 👍👍👍🇦🇺
Thanks Max, Interesting video, lots of clear explanations of what and why you do the work the way you do it. Good to know that Russian ladies also suffer incontinence.
Max its been very interesting seeing this mill work. As we all have known for years Bridgeport is the most common when it comes to vertical Knee mills. But there is life outside of Bridgeport. I would say the plus for a Bridgeport is the nodding of the head. As I have already said this is a great demonstration of the Russian mill. Thanks for bringing us along.
I had 2 Warner & Swasey OACs that I bought for $200 each at an auction in Sydney 25 years ago, they had electrical cabinets that looked like that dinosaur. They were automatic 5-station turret chucking machines👍
@@swanvalleymachineshopNo they had a series of built-in cams and adjustable "bits" that toggled switches on and off to control spindle speed changes, feed speed, and rapid traverse. Took me a while to figure them out, but once I did they were a step up from the old Herbert chucking drum autos we had.
Thanks again for your shared knowledge. seeing you online engineers at work might spark younger people into the trade while you good folk are still about to pass on the knowledge. all my hobbyist casting machining tends to be in the spring and summer as the winter is the time for an open fire and bits of metal getting nice and hot and then living in the garden till needed... this winter was 8 wheel castings. this summer will be black snot and crunchy teeth.
Hello Max, I'm looking forward to seeing what features you put on the angle plates (i.e. slots, holes etc.). I have never been able to figure out the best combination of slots and any commerical plates I have never seem to have them in the right place. I ended up putting a single tee-slot down the face of my angle plates on the long side (my angle plates are very narrow compared to their height.) Ken
G'day Max, another great one mate, no worries on the comments from the last one, I wouldn't want to weld on Olga either Loving the machining, and those plates turned out great, as always I learn something every time I watch mate, nicely done, and thanks for sharing
Stress movement while machining is an interesting topic that can test your brain sometimes thats for sure. I have decided that I like that milling machine. It is quite capable looking and I am looking forward to seeing more of what you do with it. Although Having to walk around the machine to unlock the table is kind of a pain the ass I bet. Polish up those edges and etch with nitric acid or something to see those welds would be fun.
Good idea. For Macro etching of ferrous welds, "Nital", is a good all-rounder, a solution of Alcohol (Ethanol, Methanol, or Isopropyl) between 3 to 10% of Nitric Acid, you can buy it pre- diluted.
I watch and attempt to soak all of that knowledge in. I find that i do understand your explanations. I am assembling my first mill/drill hobby machine to try machining first time
Punching above your weight at 37 minutes Max ! Glad to see Mrs Max has been trained not to interrupt a machinist whilst he is working 😂 Or was she just photo bombing ? Bit of a cameo, aye 😂😂
In the tool room I learnt in we all had ground blocks/slips that went into the top half of the T slot so used to put them in and push the job and dog it down
Your issue with the mounting screw sticking down too far was better than my issue when I tried my new face mill and arbor this morning. The screw and washer that came with the arbor were both too short and too fat to fit in the face mill. I ended up going back to using my Clarkson Autolock and a HSS end mill. I was really looking forward to trying the carbide inserts and roughing out in one go as well.
Lol . Gotta love the old Clarkson stuff . Cut my teeth on that gear . Clarkson Deadlock system for face mills , still a great design . Not really around any more . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshopI got two of them when I bought the new to me mill, small and large. The mill I think is the size down from Olga and a ram type universal and Italian, very robust, still getting used to it.
Olga's an impressive beast. I thought I saw some time delay relays in the electrical cabinet. The excessive feed motor time delay may come from someone fiddling with them. An accomplice should be.able see which relay it is when you shut the feed off.
Those round things with the blue wires shown at 2:54 are power diodes (rectifiers). I expect they convert AC into DC to power the various relays and contactors in the system. They are unlikely to be affected by you welding if you are sensible and connect the welding earth lead direct to the job and not to some odd part of the machine. But I wouldn't have welded bracing on the angle plates either, as that will live the angle plates under stress and they will bend after you take the bracing off. The chatttering is a forced resonance thing like banging a tuning fork. Thus changing RPM, either up or down, is the first thing to do.
@@swanvalleymachineshop That carries its own risks in something made decades and decades ago. You might subsequently get intermittent connection faults that will drive you nuts. The system is relay based with no solid state electronics or microchips, (apart from the rectifiers which are inherently rugged) so low risk of damage from current surges really.
Thanks max another great video,,don’t know how you get the time. Man that is a solid machine makes my bridge port clone look like a mouse eating peas, at least I don’t have 50kg of chips to clean up at the end of the day. All the best Dwayne NZ.
Thanks Max, way above my hobby machine capacities but I'm still picking up useful tips and techniques that apply to any machine. By the way, does Bill Rose know you've got his toolmakers clamp? - It's OK I won't tell anyone... :)
Lol , the clamps were an E bay purchase !!! If you are going to use cutters like that in a hobby machine , get the high rake ones . Neutral rake ones are too hard on a small machine . 👍👍👍
Another pair of awesome videos. You really did a great job of planning and fabricating the angle plates as you didn't have much distortion after welding. Did you decide to stress relieve the angle plates while having a bonfire? Olga is a big girl at 4.25 tons.
Thanks . I knew we had a big fire coming up , so their was a rush on to fabricate the plates . Yes , 4.25 t . Borrowed the Franna crane from work to lift her off the truck !👍
Sometimes my Deckel likes to squirt on me too. Especially when I'm wearing a white T-shirt. Imagine I want to use one of yous new angle plates on my shaper... the poor machine will tip over :)
If I have to weld in a machine with any electrics, I just make sure that all electrical connections are pulled, particularly grounds. It’s the ground that will get you.
@@swanvalleymachineshop I find just disconnecting it from the power coming in and that ground is enough. But you’re right. This is complex and in practice, unrepairable if something happens. I’d hate to have to go down to Australia to fix it, as I’d likely have to redesign the whole thing to do it.
Hey, this is a bit off topic but I'm getting ready to start on a new shop and I was looking through some of your older videos of your build...one in particular with the machines kind of in place but I was wondering where/or how you brought power to some of the machines out in the middle of the floor....just across the concrete?? Thanks for another ride along Max.🍻
At the moment i use a 3 phase 32 amp extension lead . I will use drops coming down from the roof where the future 360 degree pole cranes will go . Also will use steel conduit across the floor in strategic places where duck boards will go . Cheers 👍
Looking excellent Max. Not sure if I understood the welding back in a previous video. Is it one pass side A three passes on B. Then three on A and one on B and so on? I would love to make the same angle plates. I have a lot of six inch by one inch thick flat bar. Thanks Max🔧⚒️🔩
Keep alternating . Also keep checking with a square , that will tell you witch side needs to be pulled over with more weld . I think i started off about 3/8'' out of square on purpose due to the amount of weld on the outside corner . 👍
True words on a shaper Max, too many romantics out there, even though I spent 6 months plus on shapers during apprenticeship. They do teach you tool shape geometry very well. Great demonstration on setup and machining. Thanks for sharing.
Did you just make a cliff hanger here? 🙂I urgently need a "monster-horizontal" milling machine. p.s. If you weld on the machine you will loose the warranty, so never weld on the machine! (bad things can happen, not worth it)
Max- was it chatter, or harmonics that caused the surface finish irregularities? I believe that the cutting speed and depth resolving the issue was more of a harmonic problem than other suggestions. Thoughts?
Max, on my Deckel I can swivel the vertical head to horizontal and the slide the head and ram all the way back out of the way. I can imagine your machine has the same possibility... Furthermore I think this setup is more rigid than a Bridgeport style. How do you see this? Best, Job
The head will swivel up out of the way .... mostly . There is still a height limitation . It is only the mass of the machine that makes it more rigid than a Bridgeport . Cheers 👍
Well essentially you made a fly cutter out of a face mill by only using 1 insert, your right though, fly cutters are not used in industry, a good mill will run a face mill, low power hobby mills can’t , a lack of power and rigidity restricts them. We ran 100mm and 150mm face mills on 40 taper CNC VMC’s back in the 90’s no problem ! TH-cam hobbyists can only dream of running industrial machines 😂 We had 2 CNC lathes as well. The Hitachi Seiki 4NE600 lathe was a 1978 model, one of the first CNC lathes in Australia brought into Australia by Bill Hughes for the Perth machine shop of what became Allbulk/ Jetstream/ AAMG. Sadly Bill died in early 2003. One of the true innovators of agricultural machinery in Australia and a top bloke. The company moved its manufacturing to Dubbo in the early 90’s due to a downturn in the agricultural industry. They moved some machinery from Perth to Dubbo including the 4NE 600 and a 6 tool turret Hitachi CNC mill. Both still had tape readers 😂 We got the 2 Cincinnati VMC’s later in the 90’s and a Leadwell lathe in 2001. Still miss running them, the Dubbo machine shop shut in 2006 with all machines going cheap at auction 😞
Thanks . As apprentices , we had limited training on a Cincinnati VMC at Wembly Tech in the early 80's . Typing the punch cards was not my thing , was a lot to take in ! 👍👍👍
You do realize that by removing all but one insert in your face mill you effectively made it into a fly cutter? Fly cutter = single point face mill w 1 insert=...
you did fly cut it when you only had 1 insert in the face mill that is fly cutting to me anyway whatever works is the technique i use just as you do i call it common sense machining
Enjoying the operations as you go. One question though. Do you find "Olga" efficent for your intended operations in the future? Thanks for the time you give us!
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"She a bit of a squitter in the morning" I almost spit my coffee out 😂😂😂😂
Lol , Cheers 👍
I had to Google it, not being British. LOL
Dean I wonder how many of us thought that but did not say it! Laffing my ass off.
Made me giggle
Your work and videos are sincerely appreciated, Max. Please keep them coming. Can’t wait for each new episode.
No worries 👍
Gday Max, the comments were well answered, I can understand why you don’t want to weld on this machine after seeing in the cabinet, far bit going on there, great job mate, cheers
Cheers Matty . A bit scarey inside that cabinet . Lucky i have a complete spare one that came with the machine ! 👍
Every time is see work being done like this, it reminds me of how I wish I had a horizontal boring machine. Always informative. Thanks. Max.
You might be a bit tight for room in your garage ! 👍
Very much enjoyed this second part, too. Lots of respect for that big machine, but more for your expertise and teaching. Thanks very much and hope you have a peaceful Sunday.
No worries . Flat out this Sunday .... machining , no rest for the wicked ! 👍
Well, good luck and successful job, then! 🙋🐕
Looks like the fire pit stress reliving on the angle plates has worked out good. And really like your no nonsense approach to problems. Cheers
Thanks 👍
It was nice to see Moore and wright Sheffield engraved on your square . For my 16 th birthday my mum bought for me 0 to 1 inch m&r micrometer I gave it to my son when he started his apprenticeship.
Oh back to finish. Higher speed lower feed lighter cut old maxim. Love your videos ❤
Hey , thanks . It is good to be able hand tools down to someone that will use them . 👍👍👍
Nice set of plates... Enjoyed the build. Looking forward to seeing the intended use.
Thanks for bringing us along Max !
Cheers....
Thanks Dean . 👍
Enjoyed Max…looking forward to more machining, great discussion at the introduction of the video
Thanks Chuck . 👍
Really good machining series. Now to slow down an ac motor several options were used. A mechanical brake interlocked with the run contactor/relay. A contactor which shorts out the motor windings. A contactor which applies a dc current to the motor. A contactor which applies the reversed three phase supply across the motor windings. The simplest one I’ve seen used most often is a contactor which shorts the motor winding. This contactor is interlocked, both electrically and mechanically with the run contactor. I’m hope you will be able to find an industrial electrician to assist you. I love to help but it’s a bit far from the uk.
Thanks . The feed motor is about 5hp , 415 V AC . Their look to be timers on the switches . 👍
Thanks for the response. This may be a silly question but do you have any documentation for the electrical system. A 5 hp 3 phase motor would have a reasonable amount of inertia which the timers allow for. I think there may have been some form of dynamic braking which may have failed. Have a chat with your colleagues to see if they have any information. If not it’s an electrician to unravel the circuit.
Thanks Max. Great of you to help me.
No worries 👍
A single insert in a face mill is pretty much a Fly Cutter. I have done that a lot, especially on a light weight machine. Great videos and fantastic content. Thanks Max!
No worries 👍
I have been thinking for a while to myself “I should make a pair of angle plates for the Bridgeport mill one day”.
I had no idea there is so much involved in just making a pair of angle plates.
I was imagining I just saw some pieces off a galvanised steel window lintel & mill away.
I now realise i was “dreamin” as Daniel Kerrigan said in the Castle movie. 😂😂
Another great video Max, always enjoy the learning experience, keep up the good work. 👍👍👍🇦🇺
Lol , only a lot when you film the process ! 👍
Nothing like a good Squirter first thing in the morning lol
Lol , Cheers 👍
Thanks Max, Interesting video, lots of clear explanations of what and why you do the work the way you do it. Good to know that Russian ladies also suffer incontinence.
Thanks 👍
Max its been very interesting seeing this mill work. As we all have known for years Bridgeport is the most common when it comes to vertical Knee mills. But there is life outside of Bridgeport. I would say the plus for a Bridgeport is the nodding of the head. As I have already said this is a great demonstration of the Russian mill. Thanks for bringing us along.
Lol , life outside of Bridgeport is hard yakka ! 👍
I had 2 Warner & Swasey OACs that I bought for $200 each at an auction in Sydney 25 years ago, they had electrical cabinets that looked like that dinosaur. They were automatic 5-station turret chucking machines👍
Thanks . Were they peg board machines . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshopNo they had a series of built-in cams and adjustable "bits" that toggled switches on and off to control spindle speed changes, feed speed, and rapid traverse. Took me a while to figure them out, but once I did they were a step up from the old Herbert chucking drum autos we had.
Thanks again for your shared knowledge. seeing you online engineers at work might spark younger people into the trade while you good folk are still about to pass on the knowledge.
all my hobbyist casting machining tends to be in the spring and summer as the winter is the time for an open fire and bits of metal getting nice and hot and then living in the garden till needed... this winter was 8 wheel castings. this summer will be black snot and crunchy teeth.
Lol , can't beat black snot from castings ! 👍
im glad you caught that big socket head hangin down under the cutter..I was yellin from the hills of Kentucky.!..
Lol , it could have got ugly !!! Cheers 👍
Always enjjoy shop made tools. Look forward to your next one Max.
No worries 👍
Hello Max, I'm looking forward to seeing what features you put on the angle plates (i.e. slots, holes etc.). I have never been able to figure out the best combination of slots and any commerical plates I have never seem to have them in the right place. I ended up putting a single tee-slot down the face of my angle plates on the long side (my angle plates are very narrow compared to their height.) Ken
I have come to the conclusion , there are no best places ! I will slot them later on , only doing the necessary holes at the moment to use them . 👍
G'day Max, another great one mate, no worries on the comments from the last one, I wouldn't want to weld on Olga either
Loving the machining, and those plates turned out great, as always I learn something every time I watch mate, nicely done, and thanks for sharing
Cheers 👍👍👍
What do l know… I do my milling on my southbend lathe. I learn so much watching masters like you. Thanks
Lol , i tried that once ! On my Southbend . 👍
primitive is good, works fine lasts a long time !
Hopefully ! 👍
Looked like boss lady came in to check the progress on those plates. 😀
Lol , that she did ! 👍
Stress movement while machining is an interesting topic that can test your brain sometimes thats for sure. I have decided that I like that milling machine. It is quite capable looking and I am looking forward to seeing more of what you do with it. Although Having to walk around the machine to unlock the table is kind of a pain the ass I bet.
Polish up those edges and etch with nitric acid or something to see those welds would be fun.
Thanks . I will have to get some of that acid . Cheers 👍
Good idea.
For Macro etching of ferrous welds, "Nital", is a good all-rounder, a solution of Alcohol (Ethanol, Methanol, or Isopropyl) between 3 to 10% of Nitric Acid, you can buy it pre- diluted.
@@bostedtap8399 Outstanding
I watch and attempt to soak all of that knowledge in. I find that i do understand your explanations. I am assembling my first mill/drill hobby machine to try machining first time
Thanks 👍
Another awesome video young max.
Looking forward to seeing more.
From kiwi land
Thanks 👍
Thanks as always! Great vid!
Cheers 👍
Punching above your weight at 37 minutes Max !
Glad to see Mrs Max has been trained not to interrupt a machinist whilst he is working 😂
Or was she just photo bombing ?
Bit of a cameo, aye 😂😂
Lol , Er's indoors does her best to keep out of range !!! Cheers 👍
Wait there's more !! Steak knives.? Great stuff Max
Gotta get the steak knives , otherwise i will not buy . Or at least , But Wait . Buy one , get one free ! 👍
In the tool room I learnt in we all had ground blocks/slips that went into the top half of the T slot so used to put them in and push the job and dog it down
I have to clean up the small burrs inside the tee slots , but i do plan on making some alignment blocks for that purpose . Cheers 👍
Your issue with the mounting screw sticking down too far was better than my issue when I tried my new face mill and arbor this morning. The screw and washer that came with the arbor were both too short and too fat to fit in the face mill. I ended up going back to using my Clarkson Autolock and a HSS end mill. I was really looking forward to trying the carbide inserts and roughing out in one go as well.
Lol . Gotta love the old Clarkson stuff . Cut my teeth on that gear . Clarkson Deadlock system for face mills , still a great design . Not really around any more . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshopI got two of them when I bought the new to me mill, small and large. The mill I think is the size down from Olga and a ram type universal and Italian, very robust, still getting used to it.
The angle plates turned out well Max. That face mill looks tiny on Olga. Cheers Tony
Thanks . I will have to get some larger ones for it one day . 👍
Olga's an impressive beast.
I thought I saw some time delay relays in the electrical cabinet. The excessive feed motor time delay may come from someone fiddling with them. An accomplice should be.able see which relay it is when you shut the feed off.
Yes , i think those things with the round dials are . Further investigation needed ! 👍
Good point.
Another great video. Thanks. Waiting for the next one.
No worries 👍
Those round things with the blue wires shown at 2:54 are power diodes (rectifiers). I expect they convert AC into DC to power the various relays and contactors in the system. They are unlikely to be affected by you welding if you are sensible and connect the welding earth lead direct to the job and not to some odd part of the machine.
But I wouldn't have welded bracing on the angle plates either, as that will live the angle plates under stress and they will bend after you take the bracing off. The chatttering is a forced resonance thing like banging a tuning fork. Thus changing RPM, either up or down, is the first thing to do.
I think i would disconnect all the cannon plugs from the cabinet .
@@swanvalleymachineshop That carries its own risks in something made decades and decades ago. You might subsequently get intermittent connection faults that will drive you nuts. The system is relay based with no solid state electronics or microchips, (apart from the rectifiers which are inherently rugged) so low risk of damage from current surges really.
Thank you Max!
No worries 👍
I'm very jealous of this mill. if i was to take that heavy of a climb cut i would have parts and broken tooling flying all over the place.
No worries 👍
You getting some spare time when thats gonna happen lol thanks for your time max 👍👍👍
I have forgotten what spare time is ! Cheers 👍
Thanks max another great video,,don’t know how you get the time. Man that is a solid machine makes my bridge port clone look like a mouse eating peas, at least I don’t have 50kg of chips to clean up at the end of the day. All the best Dwayne NZ.
Thanks 👍
When you used the face mill with just one insert you were in effect turning it into a fly cutter.
Yes , just not the traditional type ! 👍
Thanks Max, way above my hobby machine capacities but I'm still picking up useful tips and techniques that apply to any machine. By the way, does Bill Rose know you've got his toolmakers clamp? - It's OK I won't tell anyone... :)
Lol , the clamps were an E bay purchase !!! If you are going to use cutters like that in a hobby machine , get the high rake ones . Neutral rake ones are too hard on a small machine . 👍👍👍
Great to see that big mill getting some use Max. Question, did you finish that other angle 📐 plate that you made and threw in the fire?
Cheers Aaron . The other one is still sitting on the floor next to the shaper ! Will get back on it one day . 👍
WAIT! there's a Shelia in the shop ffs man 😂 37:57
The real ''Boss'' !!! 👍👍👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop Ssshhh she'll hear us 😂
Thanks, Max! Beautiful bookends.
Thanks . Need something to hold the Machinery's Handbook ! 👍
Another pair of awesome videos. You really did a great job of planning and fabricating the angle plates as you didn't have much distortion after welding. Did you decide to stress relieve the angle plates while having a bonfire? Olga is a big girl at 4.25 tons.
Thanks . I knew we had a big fire coming up , so their was a rush on to fabricate the plates . Yes , 4.25 t . Borrowed the Franna crane from work to lift her off the truck !👍
Looking like Olga's a keeper ;)
Thanks , looking that way ! 👍
Awesome !!
No worries 👍
Sometimes my Deckel likes to squirt on me too. Especially when I'm wearing a white T-shirt.
Imagine I want to use one of yous new angle plates on my shaper... the poor machine will tip over :)
Lol , that's why i don't wear white ! 👍
Good work Friend.
-Alfredo Lopez
Long Beach
Thanks 👍
If I have to weld in a machine with any electrics, I just make sure that all electrical connections are pulled, particularly grounds. It’s the ground that will get you.
It's all military style cannon plugs to disconnect the cabinet . But there are separate earths everywhere ! Thanks . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop I find just disconnecting it from the power coming in and that ground is enough. But you’re right. This is complex and in practice, unrepairable if something happens. I’d hate to have to go down to Australia to fix it, as I’d likely have to redesign the whole thing to do it.
@@melgross Book a ticket , A German ID grinder & a French HBM that need the electrics up grading !!! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop oh lord. If I thought it would really be something I didn’t have to take a month for I would give it serious thought.
Have a awesome weekend ole mate cheers for now
No worries 👍
another good video Max !
cheers ben.
Thanks 👍
good job friend max
Very satisfying watching those chips fly without them burning your arms😊
I still have burns in my arms from the Bridgeport , the other day ! 👍
Thanks . 👍
Cheers 🍻
Cheers 👍
Hey, this is a bit off topic but I'm getting ready to start on a new shop and I was looking through some of your older videos of your build...one in particular with the machines kind of in place but I was wondering where/or how you brought power to some of the machines out in the middle of the floor....just across the concrete??
Thanks for another ride along Max.🍻
At the moment i use a 3 phase 32 amp extension lead . I will use drops coming down from the roof where the future 360 degree pole cranes will go . Also will use steel conduit across the floor in strategic places where duck boards will go . Cheers 👍
Looking excellent Max. Not sure if I understood the welding back in a previous video. Is it one pass side A three passes on B. Then three on A and one on B and so on? I would love to make the same angle plates. I have a lot of six inch by one inch thick flat bar. Thanks Max🔧⚒️🔩
Keep alternating . Also keep checking with a square , that will tell you witch side needs to be pulled over with more weld . I think i started off about 3/8'' out of square on purpose due to the amount of weld on the outside corner . 👍
True words on a shaper Max, too many romantics out there, even though I spent 6 months plus on shapers during apprenticeship. They do teach you tool shape geometry very well.
Great demonstration on setup and machining.
Thanks for sharing.
No worries 👍
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Cheers 👍👍👍
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Cheers 👍👍👍
Thank you Max. 👍🇳🇱
No worries 👍
Thanks Max 🤣
No worries 👍
Did you just make a cliff hanger here? 🙂I urgently need a "monster-horizontal" milling machine. p.s. If you weld on the machine you will loose the warranty, so never weld on the machine! (bad things can happen, not worth it)
No worries . I don't mind welding on a lathe , but this thing may be a bit different . Don't want to take the chance .....Yet ! 👍
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Cheers Al . 👍
Max- was it chatter, or harmonics that caused the surface finish irregularities? I believe that the cutting speed and depth resolving the issue was more of a harmonic problem than other suggestions. Thoughts?
The plate was resonating , like a tuning fork . The width of the contact area on the carbide insert was the issue . 👍
Max, on my Deckel I can swivel the vertical head to horizontal and the slide the head and ram all the way back out of the way. I can imagine your machine has the same possibility... Furthermore I think this setup is more rigid than a Bridgeport style. How do you see this? Best, Job
The head will swivel up out of the way .... mostly . There is still a height limitation .
It is only the mass of the machine that makes it more rigid than a Bridgeport . Cheers 👍
curious as why u didn't bring in any dimensions to a specific measurement so it could b used as a quick reference on future set-ups
I only use them to hold things upright . By chance though , they came out at 200mm wide , by ruler . Should put a mic on them ! 👍
Is that the first Appearance of ( She who must be obeyed )
'' The Boss '' Er's indoors ! 👍
Well essentially you made a fly cutter out of a face mill by only using 1 insert, your right though, fly cutters are not used in industry, a good mill will run a face mill, low power hobby mills can’t , a lack of power and rigidity restricts them. We ran 100mm and 150mm face mills on 40 taper CNC VMC’s back in the 90’s no problem ! TH-cam hobbyists can only dream of running industrial machines 😂 We had 2 CNC lathes as well. The Hitachi Seiki 4NE600 lathe was a 1978 model, one of the first CNC lathes in Australia brought into Australia by Bill Hughes for the Perth machine shop of what became Allbulk/ Jetstream/ AAMG. Sadly Bill died in early 2003. One of the true innovators of agricultural machinery in Australia and a top bloke. The company moved its manufacturing to Dubbo in the early 90’s due to a downturn in the agricultural industry. They moved some machinery from Perth to Dubbo including the 4NE 600 and a 6 tool turret Hitachi CNC mill. Both still had tape readers 😂 We got the 2 Cincinnati VMC’s later in the 90’s and a Leadwell lathe in 2001. Still miss running them, the Dubbo machine shop shut in 2006 with all machines going cheap at auction 😞
Thanks . As apprentices , we had limited training on a Cincinnati VMC at Wembly Tech in the early 80's . Typing the punch cards was not my thing , was a lot to take in ! 👍👍👍
I had an offshore power unit with dynamic braking, someone removed it the circuit troubleshooting the unit and bodged it going back together wrong.
That's not good . 👍
my lathe flings the shit a lot further than my baby bridgeport
You are not working your Bridgeport hard enough ! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshopIts only 3hp and the lathe is 7 and a shitload more rigid
You do realize that by removing all but one insert in your face mill you effectively made it into a fly cutter? Fly cutter = single point face mill w 1 insert=...
Lol , yes i do realise . But it is not the traditional style of a fly cutter ! 👍
you did fly cut it when you only had 1 insert in the face mill that is fly cutting to me anyway whatever works is the technique i use just as you do i call it common sense machining
Lol , yes . Fly cutting in a fashion , but not the traditional way ! 👍
1st?
Lol , maybe ! 👍
Enjoying the operations as you go. One question though. Do you find "Olga" efficent for your intended operations in the future? Thanks for the time you give us!
Thanks . Yes , i think with the extra Z height & a quill it makes it better with the work i do . Only time will tell . 👍