What I find so humorous is that Ayanokoji understands what it takes to have and improve your grip strength, yet somehow doesn't know the average grip strength of a person.
Well I don't know if you have read the LN or not but. :Spoiler. Ayanokoji was raised in the White room and particularly the 4th gen of the program also known as the demon generation. His contact with other humans during childhood is almost non-existent and being raised in a loveless environment where the only time your not being observed is when taking a bath or restroom break also learning a special curriculum and his personality also adds to this. They had many grip strength test in the WR but the subjects of the WR are not at all on the level of your average HS student so not knowing the average is understandable. Basically his idea of average would only come from the WR ideally but he knows that the abilities of said person are not your average also he was in the 4th generation and because of how that gen operated he was the Last one left so human contact and knowing other humans capabilities became irrelevant at the time unless it was inside the WR.
He was definitely intentionally allowing himself to be careless about revealing his physical abilities during the preparation for the sports festival, and if you’ve read LN, ESPECIALLY within the sports festival itself. In front of everyone, he outpaced the most athletic girl in the class to the point she collapsed in exhaustion. All with a straight face. SPOILER ALERT (don’t read what’s below if you don’t want spoilers): During the sports festival, he comes close to beating Manabu Horikita, student council president/fastest runner in the school in front of literally everyone. For whatever reason, he didn’t mind standing out during the festival. He just didn’t want to get too much attention for his grip strength. To be fair, he still held back a lot because the way he was wording his monologue you can assume he’s capable of 100+ KG.
Sudou :- "The legend that was able to trick Ayanokouji Kiyotaka..... unintentionally" 1:09 look at that chad smiling as he goes, & we all thought he was just a Stringy.
I love how he is not complaining at all and even considers it as his fault, like "I should have known as knowledge the average grip strength of high school students in Japan or at least I should have analyzed sudo's personality beforehand." lol
I just rewatch the whole season 1 and I must say. Season 2 is actually more fleshed out when it comes to out look of the characters. When in season 1 it was very beautiful when they did close up with the characters, and then when it zooms out it was very less quality. Season 2 changed that . Yes the coloring is less bright, only because they are moving forward with the story and everything is getting darker and darker
From what I've seen of Ayanokoji, never saw LN or the show, he seems like a genius who purposely hides his real potential/abilities. Also I'm thinking to start watching the whe anime.
Yup. I advise watch the first season, and then wait until this one fully ends. And THEN I think you should read the LN. If you would grade this anime 7/10 then I'd say, LN is 9-10/10. I've read a lot and this one is my all-time favorite
There was a cold monologue in the light novel where he said that he never compared his strength with anyone so he doesn't know the average norm, having tried hundreds of such devices in the past
Yup. And this was a huge part, as he here said that with CONTINUOUS trainings you can get over 100. So hunders does sound like a continuous doesn't it?
@@N-Ice_ as I can see you’ve read the LN, so there won’t be a problem with spoilers. There’s one thing bothering me. During his battle (if we can consider this one-sided beating from Ayanogod those four guys a battle) with Albert on the roof, we can literally see what he’s really capable of, so I think it was necessary to mention this monologue in the anime adaptation because some people wouldn’t understand why he’s THAT strong, so he could stop an attack with his single bare hand against 200kg freaking gorilla without any effort and hesitation.
@@odee99 exactly. And the thing is, he didn't even bother to try to get ready if he couldn't stop it. He KNEW Albert won't be able to hit him there. And then proceeds to 1 shot him
The funny thing is that the two muscles mentioned (Brachioradialis & Flexor carpi radialis) actually have nothing to do with grip strength, cuz they're responsible for elbow flexion :) Ayanokouji needs to revise his anatomy (or the author) - Source: I'm an MD
Mainly Flexor Digitorum Superficialis, and Flexor Digitorum Profundus, There are many tiny overlayered muscles in the hand and forearm, they are the mightmare of medical students and are very complicated, probably the most challenging chapter in Anatomy class :D
I thought the brachioradialis was a forearm flexor and it also is active in supenation also the muscle doesn't even cross the wrist so how does it have any involvement in moving/squeezing the fingers.
For reference over 100 kg as he implies he can do would put him higher than all recorded 16 year olds in his weight category in the world (66 kg and under). There's only a few recorded adults that scored that high (in that weight range), so it's the very top of the top. You're actually even unlikely to find 16 year olds in most schools that score 82 as Sudo did. For grip connoisseurs, that will translate to closing a captains of crush 2.5 (accounting for the usual difference compared to a dynamometer score).
Look at Sudo smiling as he walks past Ayanokoji. I think he tricked him on purpose and intentianlly gave him a higher number that the average, the real fault lies in Ayano koji for falling for it.
i'd genuinely wanna see what Ayanokoji's maximum grip strength is. Considering he is very aware of what muscles to train in order to get the most possible grip strength, I wouldn't be surprised if his maximum is upwards of 80, maybe higher.
@@N-Ice_ my guy this is an anime it was hinted many times that some students are pretty much superhuman like in one fight someone couldn't see her opponent right in front of her cause of how fast she was which would theoretically make that student hyper Sonic+ and Koenji is above that so I wouldn't be surprised if Koenji could break that device if he wanted to
@@rafal5863 Life skills are just mere ingredients useful for combat or non combat circumstances. It’s like life skills chemistry. Piano and calligraphy are the part of flow state of the mind.
Actually it is dump from ayanokoji to make his score the exact number sudo told him If ayanokoji really wanted to seem normal he would plan to his score lower than that. I am happy that 60.6 turned out not to be average so ayanokoji can know that his ways of being normal are stupid.
In the entrance exam he scored 50 on everything too. He gets the exact average on purpose. Not too high to get anyone's attention, not too low to be skeptical. If you're just average no one will think you're hiding anything
@@VitaeLibra Well. If you get the same score on every subject then you will definitely get attention which exactly happens with manabu . If you want to not get attention you will definitely be smart enough to know that getting the same score in every subject is suspicious. In stort what I meant is that the way ayanokoji is trying to be NORMAL is dump.
@@rawdasalmataman7908 Yes but I'm saying this from Ayanokoji's perspective. If you'll remember from season 1 he was the only person alive in whatever experiment they were doing in that whit eroom scene. It's implied that he isn't socially developed to the degree of everyone around him. At least in some aspects. So when he tries to look average he just stands in between 2 people since being off center would draw attention to him in his mind. At least that's what I think
@@VitaeLibra Well yeah I understand he wants to be normal but for a smart person like ayanokoji He won't use a way that grabs attention even more. In some part of my life I wanted to not grab people 's attention like ayanokoji but my ways were different and they didn't grab attention because they were actually smart. Ayanokoji scored the same number in all of the subjects that action itself is suspicious. What I am trying to say is that ayanokoji is dump for think that will work.
Watch episode 4 here! got.cr/cc-cotes2-4
Alright
Sudo is off in his own little world. His sources are "Bro, trust me".
if im not bad in the novel he said that 60kg was the avr of the basketball club members
every video
That makes sense right?
Sudo is off trying to clap Horikita in his dream. If you read the LN, it says there
💀😂😂😫 trust me bro Fr
Kiyo’s learned his lesson NOT to ask Sudo what the average is when it comes to anything physical 😂
My pp is over 6.5 inches long, is that average?
For Sure xD
You shouldn't either
You mean "ask anything"
@@ranorimonus4719 sorry my grammar is bad 😅
I like how Ayanokoji just accepted the fact that he just got found out that he is over average and is like 😐
Ikr
He’s more like 🗿
@@kermitwithamustache3885 lol
Spoilers
In the LN, he was holding back
@@mainaccount763 He was holding back here. He choose 60 on what he thought was the average.
Ayanokouji always puts himself to only pass to not get any attention yet he has so much attention from the higher ups its funny.
Someone who always perfectly gets exactly 50% on every test is obviously doing it deliberately and therefore clearly knows what the right answers are.
@@khinzaw77 He only did that once. Maybe more and only a couple people know that lol. He mostly scores in the 70% range.
I wish he'd show it more ngl
@@yeshvo330 I wonder if that started after his perfect middle score was called out
@@lucasflaming5330 It did
Sudo wasn't lying lol. 60 is the average... for the basketball team he plays on. He just assumed that was the average for everyone.
60 is still a lot for 16 year olds. i think that would be like 99 percentile
The average is like 40
memento mori
@@Mitksi Memento Mori!
@@zbjzjdjdydhdhdhhs8855 Well, yeah, but their school is literally made of the 99th percentile so it's still pretty fair
What I find so humorous is that Ayanokoji understands what it takes to have and improve your grip strength, yet somehow doesn't know the average grip strength of a person.
Well I don't know if you have read the LN or not but. :Spoiler. Ayanokoji was raised in the White room and particularly the 4th gen of the program also known as the demon generation. His contact with other humans during childhood is almost non-existent and being raised in a loveless environment where the only time your not being observed is when taking a bath or restroom break also learning a special curriculum and his personality also adds to this. They had many grip strength test in the WR but the subjects of the WR are not at all on the level of your average HS student so not knowing the average is understandable. Basically his idea of average would only come from the WR ideally but he knows that the abilities of said person are not your average also he was in the 4th generation and because of how that gen operated he was the Last one left so human contact and knowing other humans capabilities became irrelevant at the time unless it was inside the WR.
He has never compared himself to a normal person his age before
@@nevrrh I read the light novel too lol
@@IDoThisNoCAP love it I'm ready for next Volume.
@@nevrrh my favorite though is when he goes against class c on the roof lol 🤫
You'd think someone as smart as Ayanokoji wouldn't take Sudo for his word alone.
Lol
Ikr
He was definitely intentionally allowing himself to be careless about revealing his physical abilities during the preparation for the sports festival, and if you’ve read LN, ESPECIALLY within the sports festival itself. In front of everyone, he outpaced the most athletic girl in the class to the point she collapsed in exhaustion. All with a straight face.
SPOILER ALERT (don’t read what’s below if you don’t want spoilers):
During the sports festival, he comes close to beating Manabu Horikita, student council president/fastest runner in the school in front of literally everyone. For whatever reason, he didn’t mind standing out during the festival. He just didn’t want to get too much attention for his grip strength. To be fair, he still held back a lot because the way he was wording his monologue you can assume he’s capable of 100+ KG.
He's super smart but he's definitely not perfect which makes him a interesting character. Random slip ups like this are pretty normal for anyone
@@soul7168 it certainly makes it way more interesting and entertaining than him being perfect
@@xum0007 i think he only lost because there were someone in his way right?
Sudou :- "The legend that was able to trick Ayanokouji Kiyotaka..... unintentionally"
1:09 look at that chad smiling as he goes, & we all thought he was just a Stringy.
Imagine if Sudou was trolling Ayanokouji and said " The average grip strength is 100" I couldn't imagine how that would go 💀
💀
"the average is 150"
(Ayanokoji crushes the scale into a diamond)
@@itsoracle W Aubrey pfp
@@Tolosu fax
since sudo got 80 and he is considered strong, that wouldn't make sense
Sudo, the only person that managed to trick Ayanokoji, even if it's by accident.
Its because sudo himself was unaware that that wasn't the truth. Still ive got to give credit where credit is due
I like how Ayanokoji literally landed it at 60 without blinking
And then he's like "oh... thats above average?"
I love how ayanokoji is just staring at sudo. His face is blank but we can tell what he’s thinking. Bros shook. 😂😂😂
Ayanokoji reminds me a lot of Saiki in this scene. He tries so hard to just be average and not stand out even tho he is actually really strong
Just missing the indiscriminate yare yare’s that saiki would always say
literally a direct parallel to the grip strength scene at the start of s1 of saiki k, i noticed that as well
One of the rare time ayanokoji did something stupid: listening to sudo about anything lol
Imagine he said: average is like 80
@@drefre9038 Ayanokoji would have gone to like 70
I love how he is not complaining at all and even considers it as his fault, like "I should have known as knowledge the average grip strength of high school students in Japan or at least I should have analyzed sudo's personality beforehand." lol
Love how they put these little scenes of him being op as well as his upbringing that had a lack of social contact and common sense
I just rewatch the whole season 1 and I must say. Season 2 is actually more fleshed out when it comes to out look of the characters. When in season 1 it was very beautiful when they did close up with the characters, and then when it zooms out it was very less quality. Season 2 changed that . Yes the coloring is less bright, only because they are moving forward with the story and everything is getting darker and darker
It was quite funny this show of strength between the guys, too bad Ayanokoji stood out again.
The way Sudo walks behind kiyo's smiling as if it was a prank
Even though that's not the average grip strength for a male his age
Bro is too good to be average 😭
Ikr his on another level.
vesh? sheesh
1:26 - 1:30 It was at this moment Ayanokoji regretted asking Sudo
It's funny that Ayanokoji did it with no effort.
Everyone is saying it was unintentional but 1:09 says otherwise
The trailer foreshadowed Ajanokoji using his calligraphy skills.
Indeed
Ayanokoji doesnt get that everything being flat out average is hella suspicious, people should be better in certain areas
He should have just gone for the running gag of 50
As always, a REAL poker face. Love this man! 🤩🤩🤩🤩
If anyone is curious, Hirata's grip strength is 57
This was one of my favorite moments 🤣🤣
The only person to ever outsmart koji so hard 😂
From what I've seen of Ayanokoji, never saw LN or the show, he seems like a genius who purposely hides his real potential/abilities. Also I'm thinking to start watching the whe anime.
Yep start COTE it's really enjoyable, at least if you like psychological animes.
He indeed is. One of the smartest protagonists working behind the shadows. Also hides his athleticism
Yup. I advise watch the first season, and then wait until this one fully ends. And THEN I think you should read the LN. If you would grade this anime 7/10 then I'd say, LN is 9-10/10. I've read a lot and this one is my all-time favorite
It's the anime that got me into light novels
In the sports festival at the end he does actually fully go out for a few moments so hopefully we see that and don’t get blue balled.
my man got lied to we gotta put this in top ten anime betrayals
he even rounded it down to 60.6 lol
Ayanokouji is if Saiki K. wasn't psychic
I can just feel Alan's anger through that blank face
Sudo kun the only one to ever manage to trick ayanokoji
Calligraphy must have strengthened his gripping muscles
There was a cold monologue in the light novel where he said that he never compared his strength with anyone so he doesn't know the average norm, having tried hundreds of such devices in the past
Yup. And this was a huge part, as he here said that with CONTINUOUS trainings you can get over 100. So hunders does sound like a continuous doesn't it?
@@N-Ice_ as I can see you’ve read the LN, so there won’t be a problem with spoilers. There’s one thing bothering me.
During his battle (if we can consider this one-sided beating from Ayanogod those four guys a battle) with Albert on the roof, we can literally see what he’s really capable of, so I think it was necessary to mention this monologue in the anime adaptation because some people wouldn’t understand why he’s THAT strong, so he could stop an attack with his single bare hand against 200kg freaking gorilla without any effort and hesitation.
@@odee99 exactly. And the thing is, he didn't even bother to try to get ready if he couldn't stop it. He KNEW Albert won't be able to hit him there.
And then proceeds to 1 shot him
Ayanokoji got outsmarted
The funny thing is that the two muscles mentioned (Brachioradialis & Flexor carpi radialis) actually have nothing to do with grip strength, cuz they're responsible for elbow flexion :)
Ayanokouji needs to revise his anatomy (or the author)
- Source: I'm an MD
Woah, Then what is responsible for grip strength?
Mainly Flexor Digitorum Superficialis, and Flexor Digitorum Profundus,
There are many tiny overlayered muscles in the hand and forearm, they are the mightmare of medical students and are very complicated, probably the most challenging chapter in Anatomy class :D
They got it wrong in the anime
Are they back with switching on who's incharge with the upcoming eps? Because I can see the difference of animation between this and the last.
at this moment he knew he f'd up
I thought the brachioradialis was a forearm flexor and it also is active in supenation also the muscle doesn't even cross the wrist so how does it have any involvement in moving/squeezing the fingers.
1:18 Akito is cool
Akibro
Should've been my Ayanokouji cant be this normal?!
This is why we get data from multiple sources, add them up, and divide for the average.
To be fair, he was raised in a sketchy government facility so the concept of being normal is highly unlikely.
For reference over 100 kg as he implies he can do would put him higher than all recorded 16 year olds in his weight category in the world (66 kg and under). There's only a few recorded adults that scored that high (in that weight range), so it's the very top of the top. You're actually even unlikely to find 16 year olds in most schools that score 82 as Sudo did. For grip connoisseurs, that will translate to closing a captains of crush 2.5 (accounting for the usual difference compared to a dynamometer score).
and thats why it is just an anime, even 60 kg is a lot when he is built like a stick
He even rounded to .6 instead of .7
Absolutely loved this scene in the LN, and I love it just as much in the anime
Edit: grammar
sudo tricked the AYANOGODDDD
🥶
I’m curious to see what Ayanokoji’s max grip strength would’ve been if he put in more effort.
It's implied that it's over 100
He can break the grip machine if he tried
@@dicknballsfortnite_yt7115 don't think that's stated anywhere, not even the LN
@@vanitas9837 but i bet he could
Its over 9000...
This reminds me whenever saiki k deals with Nendo
Note he hinted that he could easily do 100 kg grip strength
koenji is just a beast
I'm surprised he didn't go for a second opinion
he fell right into this one lol
At that moment, Ayanokoji got betrayed
Awesome Classroom of the Elite Season 2 Video.
I thought sudo was telling the average of average man not a child when i saw this
Look at Sudo smiling as he walks past Ayanokoji. I think he tricked him on purpose and intentianlly gave him a higher number that the average, the real fault lies in Ayano koji for falling for it.
i'd genuinely wanna see what Ayanokoji's maximum grip strength is. Considering he is very aware of what muscles to train in order to get the most possible grip strength, I wouldn't be surprised if his maximum is upwards of 80, maybe higher.
Given the inner monologue I'm quite certain it's above 100.
How can u be so smart that u do ur best to be average?
The first time Ayanakoji has got manipulated by Sudo..
The few time ayano unknowingly get manipulated 😂
I guess author never used dynamometer
to have a grip of 82kg one has to weight about 100kg and be rediculas athlete
Koenji had been trouble in the First Season. 😒
Koenji passed it bcs he didnt want to break the device
Even 200 kg won't be able to. And highest I've ever seen on internet is around 150. And let's be honest, it's impossible to get a mf 200 as a teen
@@N-Ice_ my guy this is an anime it was hinted many times that some students are pretty much superhuman like in one fight someone couldn't see her opponent right in front of her cause of how fast she was which would theoretically make that student hyper Sonic+ and Koenji is above that so I wouldn't be surprised if Koenji could break that device if he wanted to
Ayano is just a big stud uwu
All according to keikaku
But has anyone here figured out that Ayanokoji could even go over 100? in order not to be noticed he asked what the average was ...
This boy is superhuman physically and mentally.
Outstanding skills,academics,athletic, negotiation skills,etc.
My man is just different
He is built different ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Both Ayanokouji and Koenji could destroy that device if they tried for real lol.
True xD but Iam little bit sad that Koenji even when he’s one of the best WR students and extremely strong genius he didn’t even try it :/
How come ayanokoji dosent know the avg grip strength 🤔
In his head: ..............frick
The bgm is so nice like 😩😩
this was kinda giving me Saiki K vibes, with how they both tried to be normal
Koji got finessed by Sudo
Finally its here
Wait so this means he's a grip force of more than 100 kg!!????
Animation lacks a lot in opinion. They should have given the anime some time. Plot still 10/10 tho
Did Sudo trick him..? To test if he's faking
No I doubt he’s that smart
Precisely, this was the only moment when Sudou surpassed ayanokouji and he was able to cheat him haha. Not only anime but also light novel.
Saiki K.
Sudo is in the baskettballteam and in the Basketballteam 60 KG are average
I wonder how far he can go
For real
Sudo is definitely the smartest character playing dumb he screwed over ayanakoji on purpose
So that’s why he’s so good at fighting.
You mean calligraphy.
@@rafal5863 Life skills are just mere ingredients useful for combat or non combat circumstances. It’s like life skills chemistry. Piano and calligraphy are the part of flow state of the mind.
Sudo r.n : well im not good at math
brachioradialis does not play a role when it comes to grip strength tho
Actually it is dump from ayanokoji to make his score the exact number sudo told him
If ayanokoji really wanted to seem normal he would plan to his score lower than that.
I am happy that 60.6 turned out not to be average so ayanokoji can know that his ways of being normal are stupid.
In the entrance exam he scored 50 on everything too. He gets the exact average on purpose. Not too high to get anyone's attention, not too low to be skeptical. If you're just average no one will think you're hiding anything
@@VitaeLibra Well.
If you get the same score on every subject then you will definitely get attention which exactly happens with manabu .
If you want to not get attention you will definitely be smart enough to know that getting the same score in every subject is suspicious.
In stort what I meant is that the way ayanokoji is trying to be NORMAL is dump.
@@rawdasalmataman7908 Yes but I'm saying this from Ayanokoji's perspective. If you'll remember from season 1 he was the only person alive in whatever experiment they were doing in that whit eroom scene. It's implied that he isn't socially developed to the degree of everyone around him. At least in some aspects. So when he tries to look average he just stands in between 2 people since being off center would draw attention to him in his mind. At least that's what I think
@@VitaeLibra Well yeah I understand he wants to be normal but for a smart person like ayanokoji
He won't use a way that grabs attention even more.
In some part of my life I wanted to not grab people 's attention like ayanokoji but my ways were different and they didn't grab attention because they were actually smart.
Ayanokoji scored the same number in all of the subjects that action itself is suspicious.
What I am trying to say is that ayanokoji is dump for think that will work.
Deep down he really wanted to curse Sudou
I think the snitch is the guy with the red hair
can someone tell me how strong ayanokoji actually is?
Stronger than anyone in his class. Probably he could score over 100.
Edit: maybe Koenji is stronger or at least at the same level
Ayanokoji was capable of defeating multiple trained martial artists to the brink of death when he was like 10 or something
i wonder what mine is
Ayanokoji can name all muscle groups and tendons in his body in latin but he doesn't know the average male grip strength?
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
Ayanokoji always: 😐
I'm very happy
Yo Yagami light looking kinda different