I have a few words for the guy that thought "Speed Up on a frail unit that targets one of the most aggressive types in the game" was a good idea. At least she gets the stat up talents and an orb slot. It's something, I guess.
@@SilumanTomcatReborn as a dojo player I am looking forward to it quite a bit :), it should allow her to run up to the base a lot faster letting her reset her attacks before she finishes the full multi hit giving her constant attacks, which is very strong
@@lIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII👆 this feature is one of my most wanted updates in battle cats, turning talents on and off so you won't have any useless talents you accidentally got affecting your run and turning it back on for situational stages.
worth noting that, with how long her attack cycle is, survivor might be pretty good since if she dies in the middle of her attack, it lets her land at least one additional surge attack on the enemies in most situations
I unironically think it would make kanna more op than literal dasli I mean I am gonna be honest with recent talents which they kinda succ, all I look forward is ATK/HP and orb slot which is huge boost. I wasnt expecting a good talent like survive lmao Overall, it could have been worse (Balaluga copium)
@@deadclawh3851 Not even close, dasli still has way more dps than her and has near 100% curse uptime, along with a LOT of hp and pierce. Kanna would be a great unit with double bounty, but to put her above dasli? Absolutely not.
@@Me_is_hungry_24-7 dawg most of the stages in this game mainly consistent of main threat+support+ peons for cash Kanna has enough damage for killing majority of the peons without issues, and she basically never misses the moment you send out Kanna you would basically be gaining twice as money from peons which means you can summon WAYY more units easily. like you will enough money to spawn 2 ubers instead of 1 yes she has lower dps and such but damage and health isnt only stats in the game. Kanna already has decent amount Dps AND being most overpowered cash support would be more broken than dasli and many other
@@deadclawh3851 Your point is straight up irrelevant. Just because a unit gets double bounty doesn't make it automatically better than dasli. She has no immunities whatsoever, and slow is completely irrelevant. No surge, wave, or weaken immunity, so she can die easily and have her dps hindered, unlike dasli. Plus dasli not only can be used as a dps backliner and piercer, but she can be used as a support unit thanks to curse. She literally allows tanks vulnerable to immunities be used freely and obnoxious proc-dependant enemies to be completely erased. Kanna is a good unit but she isn't even close to dasli, even if she had double bounty.
I thought with her Lv3 Surge attack and how frequent Surge attacks & Counter surge are used in late/end game Kanna deserves Surge Immunity, but I guess it's not on PONOS' radar Poor adventurer she found a mimic instead of treasure
strengthen, even a 50% boost, would be ridiculous, complete denial of black enemies with 30k dps over every single enemy, and 7.5k dps generally with that much coverage is ridiculous
Everyone is yelling about double bounty, but I raise the question of If that's really a good idea or not. I don't think it is, think about all of the other double bounty units available and how strong the ability itself is, you might be able to argue that cancan is absurdly strong but The power of double income on that one is from a single target attack? It would make kanna so unbelievably broken as a way of changing how your stage economy works just flat out. You could remove the surge from her and she would still be good with double bounty. I think it's smart they chose to not, and I think it's smart for them to not allow that to happen for a long while. Really I'd rather they just add a new cat combo with only her or something with accounting power up or some shit which would be a lot more in line with ponos methodology. Don't get me wrong, the only real (non-stat) good talent here is survivor, another target would have been phenomenal, surge immunity would have been more than fair, wave immunity would have been funny as hell, but double bounty would be so strong that it tips into the other category of being absolute game shattering.
Yeah thats what I think! Double bounty on kanna would make her more overpowered than literal dasli Yall sleeping on attack talent "oh yeah basic stat talent, every unit gets it" WRONG Kanna's damage is already pretty good thank god they actually put both stat talents on her, it could have been aphro treatment like only hp +Survive is really good. Like unironically these talents are better than I expected them to be you can tell how low my expectations are lmao. Like Kanna is already really good
My question is: why slow immunity!? They could’ve gave her weaken immunity to at least counter behemoth croc and black dober more efficiently kanna deserved better 😢
Absolutely scammed. In a moment of absolute cope, I went to calc whether Kanna's multi-hits with atk talents can now knockback 200% wild doges. If that was the case she'd at least improve her behemoth matchup by being able to juggle wild doges. As it turns out, she *can* juggle wild doges... at level 61. Now I'm extra sad
I know this song it was used in Crystal Project for the area Delende, If I remember correctly didn't expect to see it used in a Battle cats unit review video. About Kanna's talents you would expect her to have double bounty due to the chest in her attack animation and the fact she is a adventurer but no Ponos did dupe her.
Massive but only for black, Ponos could have give her a talent to target 1 more trait but Ponos didn't. Hope that they don't mess other Uber talent in the future like this
I'm actually so mad at both Amakusa and Kanna's talents, they did these two units so dirty for no reason at all I'll find where the clown who made ver 14.1 is and personally put him through hell for making the best boi and funny adventurer have such talents
sucks that she got robbed of potential massive improvement but i believe she was already in a good place before, i honestly think the stat talents are what matter most. survive seems like a nice qol thing for her, though
If it's a stage with mostly black enemies with a lot of peons, I love using Kanna and Twinstars together because it just becomes a fun game of juggle the enemies as long as you have good enough meatshielding.
I hate how PONOS has recently been adding talents that downgrade a unit. In the previous update they gave Catellite barrier breaker which made it so that you couldn't use him for stacking units on Ultra baabaa anymore. And now in this update they gave kanna speed up talent so she reaches the frontline while being unprotected and just freaking dies.
Hello Silumantomcat, I need your advice. I'm farming for gold assistants at the new map ever since it came out. My gamatoto is at MAX level, and only 8 gold/ 2 silver, while I've people with full legend helpers at much lower levels. Is the helper recruit chance affected by the duration of the exploration? i.e. are 6-hour explorations more likely to recruit helpers than 3-hour and 1-hour ones? Also, should I use catamins when trying to recruit helpers?
it's pure luck. nothing else you can do about it. the best thing you can do is to make sure that ototo assistant is 5. ototo assistant recruitment is prioritized over gamatoto helper.
@SilumanTomcatReborn Sooo... Going on longer explorations doesn't help? The sources I watch say it doesn't matter, but my own experience shows otherwise. I don't know if they're wrong or I just have shit luck
Usually girls mons get pretty good talents as well. I was so disappointed when I saw her talents. It doesn’t really improve her and speed up is garbage. At least we get attack up.
Dear ponos why can't you just give her weaken immune or at the very least curse/wave resist but what tf did you give us, what is the fking purpose of slow immune if there isn't any relevant enemy has slow alongside speed up, did you guys want us to use her as a suside rusher, ffs we already have more than enough racist rusher
Yeah she got absolutely shafted with the talents this update but at least we have survivor and attack up talents (it's time to stack with a massive dmg up orb to troll Darkjo)
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAround because no matter how you look those 2 have way more usesage against black or behemoth then slow immune and i say at the very least
tbh 13.7 was one of the best updates they've ever added, that's why 14.0 or 14.1 was pretty mediocre in comparison to it. fingers crossed that they add COTC outbreak chapter 3 with a big reward in 14.2 and upcoming.
No. Ultra Talent is accessible as soon as update drops. So they are safe to upload. The only illegal content on this update is the new UBERFEST unit and new Advent unit
at least with chronos you can kinda excuse speed up since she’s not really fast at all even if its sometimes detrimental and can be useful in some situations where getting her closer faster is helpful, but speed up is a downgrade for kanna especially since she’s already fast When speed up on chronos is a better investment you know its bad
They really got scared of pretty adventurer to give her actual worthwhile talents, it’s such a disappointment when you see other monster girl units like Reika or ruri and their talents
That's to be expected from a good uber tbh, I don't get why everyone is disappointed. It's a gacha game, they won't hand you overpowered units on a silver platter, unless they add another meta no-gacha unit like they've been doing for the last 3 years or so.
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAround If you don't waste it on every new thing and only actually use it when you need it, it builds up much faster than you might think.
Poor Kanna, she should've gotten double bounty
@@Darktanyan no Double Bounty, only Double Disappointment
And no Double Ds- I mean what
@@General_Cwhy are battle cats players so horny
@@SilumanTomcatReborn No double bounty, only double disappointment (double comment)
Double Bounty on Kanna sounds like an easy way to completely throw out the balance around cash
I have a few words for the guy that thought "Speed Up on a frail unit that targets one of the most aggressive types in the game" was a good idea.
At least she gets the stat up talents and an orb slot. It's something, I guess.
@@DiceDsx doesn't matter, 400k score on ranking dojo
@@SilumanTomcatRebornbrainwashed macho legs and dasli:
@@SilumanTomcatReborn as a dojo player I am looking forward to it quite a bit :), it should allow her to run up to the base a lot faster letting her reset her attacks before she finishes the full multi hit giving her constant attacks, which is very strong
I wish you could disable talents when needed
Kanna is like my no1 most used and I dont wanna ruin her for dojo
@@lIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII👆 this feature is one of my most wanted updates in battle cats, turning talents on and off so you won't have any useless talents you accidentally got affecting your run and turning it back on for situational stages.
It would be funny if the reason they didn't give her double bounty was because is kept for later as an ultra talent
@@weinslaoconiac coming soon in 2030
@@SilumanTomcatReborn or ultra FORM (ultra cope)
Single unit accounting up xxl cat combo
worth noting that, with how long her attack cycle is, survivor might be pretty good since if she dies in the middle of her attack, it lets her land at least one additional surge attack on the enemies in most situations
I SHOULD'VE GOTTEN DOUBLE BOUNTY 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I unironically think it would make kanna more op than literal dasli
I mean I am gonna be honest with recent talents which they kinda succ, all I look forward is ATK/HP and orb slot
which is huge boost. I wasnt expecting a good talent like survive lmao
Overall, it could have been worse
(Balaluga copium)
@@deadclawh3851 Not even close, dasli still has way more dps than her and has near 100% curse uptime, along with a LOT of hp and pierce. Kanna would be a great unit with double bounty, but to put her above dasli? Absolutely not.
@@Me_is_hungry_24-7 dawg most of the stages in this game mainly consistent of main threat+support+ peons for cash
Kanna has enough damage for killing majority of the peons without issues, and she basically never misses
the moment you send out Kanna you would basically be gaining twice as money from peons which means you can summon WAYY more units easily. like you will enough money to spawn 2 ubers instead of 1
yes she has lower dps and such but damage and health isnt only stats in the game. Kanna already has decent amount Dps AND being most overpowered cash support would be more broken than dasli and many other
@@deadclawh3851 Your point is straight up irrelevant. Just because a unit gets double bounty doesn't make it automatically better than dasli. She has no immunities whatsoever, and slow is completely irrelevant. No surge, wave, or weaken immunity, so she can die easily and have her dps hindered, unlike dasli. Plus dasli not only can be used as a dps backliner and piercer, but she can be used as a support unit thanks to curse. She literally allows tanks vulnerable to immunities be used freely and obnoxious proc-dependant enemies to be completely erased. Kanna is a good unit but she isn't even close to dasli, even if she had double bounty.
@@Me_is_hungry_24-7 ok
I thought with her Lv3 Surge attack and how frequent Surge attacks & Counter surge are used in late/end game Kanna deserves Surge Immunity, but I guess it's not on PONOS' radar
Poor adventurer she found a mimic instead of treasure
Doble Bounty was there PONOR, and You ditched it.
Goddammit.
Too op but it's such a missed opportunity
Pray for double bounty as ultra talent 😭
The only reason I could want lethal strike is when I'm using Kanna to rush a Tackey or something like that
Seems like Ponos wanted her to be another Black rusher, but not wanting to threaten Yukimura and gave her survivor instead of strengthen.
strengthen, even a 50% boost, would be ridiculous, complete denial of black enemies with 30k dps over every single enemy, and 7.5k dps generally with that much coverage is ridiculous
I'm so disappointed by this, they did Kanna dirty
Everyone is yelling about double bounty, but I raise the question of If that's really a good idea or not. I don't think it is, think about all of the other double bounty units available and how strong the ability itself is, you might be able to argue that cancan is absurdly strong but The power of double income on that one is from a single target attack? It would make kanna so unbelievably broken as a way of changing how your stage economy works just flat out. You could remove the surge from her and she would still be good with double bounty. I think it's smart they chose to not, and I think it's smart for them to not allow that to happen for a long while. Really I'd rather they just add a new cat combo with only her or something with accounting power up or some shit which would be a lot more in line with ponos methodology.
Don't get me wrong, the only real (non-stat) good talent here is survivor, another target would have been phenomenal, surge immunity would have been more than fair, wave immunity would have been funny as hell, but double bounty would be so strong that it tips into the other category of being absolute game shattering.
Yeah thats what I think! Double bounty on kanna would make her more overpowered than literal dasli
Yall sleeping on attack talent
"oh yeah basic stat talent, every unit gets it" WRONG
Kanna's damage is already pretty good
thank god they actually put both stat talents on her, it could have been aphro treatment like only hp
+Survive is really good. Like unironically these talents are better than I expected them to be
you can tell how low my expectations are lmao. Like Kanna is already really good
@@deadclawh3851she would not even be close to dasli
@@Gogago1yeah, but she would be a top 10 uber with double bounty, esp considering how shes already a top 20 uber with double
My question is: why slow immunity!?
They could’ve gave her weaken immunity to at least counter behemoth croc and black dober more efficiently
kanna deserved better 😢
for catclaw tournament 12-2
Ponos dropping the ball on Kanna is so disappointing when all the other monster gals got banger talents. Double cash is right there man
Ruri really hit the jackpot huh?
With the speed up talent, Kanna evolves into LEEEROY JEENKINS!
they made one of my favourite ubers talents just awful, I really wanted her to get target relic as one of her talents.
Look, we gotta wait for ut/uf and hopefully ponos will actually do good
@Wrongapleit's probably gonna come 2029
@@lianneroban9906 by that point the fest ubers might get their true forms
I can feel you with shishilan
@@NaLian605 shishilan's miniwave is at least an upgrade
Absolutely scammed.
In a moment of absolute cope, I went to calc whether Kanna's multi-hits with atk talents can now knockback 200% wild doges. If that was the case she'd at least improve her behemoth matchup by being able to juggle wild doges. As it turns out, she *can* juggle wild doges... at level 61.
Now I'm extra sad
😀
I like how Lasvoss becomes even more powerful with speed up talent, yet Kanna became worse with the speed up talent.
Unlike kanna, you want lasvoss to be hit to get that JUICY strengthen+ savage blow
I know this song it was used in Crystal Project for the area Delende, If I remember correctly didn't expect to see it used in a Battle cats unit review video. About Kanna's talents you would expect her to have double bounty due to the chest in her attack animation and the fact she is a adventurer but no Ponos did dupe her.
Was a missed opportunity to NOT give the pirate lady her deserved DOUBLE BOUNTY 😢😢
Massive but only for black, Ponos could have give her a talent to target 1 more trait but Ponos didn't. Hope that they don't mess other Uber talent in the future like this
I'm actually so mad at both Amakusa and Kanna's talents, they did these two units so dirty for no reason at all
I'll find where the clown who made ver 14.1 is and personally put him through hell for making the best boi and funny adventurer have such talents
maybe Gamereon's ultra talents are better
@@Starsea880nope lol, curse(remember this unit targets black), slow immune and cost down
@@Majin_Trunkyall it does is make him counter Winged Pigge slightly harder.
We got survive talent to make up for the danger that comes from the speed up talent duhhh, ponos are so thoughtful!!!
sucks that she got robbed of potential massive improvement but i believe she was already in a good place before, i honestly think the stat talents are what matter most. survive seems like a nice qol thing for her, though
With how many poor talents they keep adding, they should add a talent refund option. (with some kind of loss so it doesn't get abused)
How thoughtful of Ponos to give her hp talents. Truly a creative choice for this uber.
Speed up talent probally used to counter tackey cuz mine got jug by it alot. But who tf think a frail back liner need to die faster
I bet ponos was like: Oh speed benefits can can and lasvoss? Ok lets give it to kanna. At least there is no garbage resist talent.
>:(
damn kinda wierd stumbling this video, i just finished crystal project lol
great game
If it's a stage with mostly black enemies with a lot of peons, I love using Kanna and Twinstars together because it just becomes a fun game of juggle the enemies as long as you have good enough meatshielding.
Thankfully she's already good without talents, but at least we can boost her power with the Damage Up talent and Talent Orb slot.
I hate how PONOS has recently been adding talents that downgrade a unit. In the previous update they gave Catellite barrier breaker which made it so that you couldn't use him for stacking units on Ultra baabaa anymore. And now in this update they gave kanna speed up talent so she reaches the frontline while being unprotected and just freaking dies.
I mean kanna is a good uber even without talents. my favorite behemoth slayer
Could have been even better
@@Darktanyan true. bu I guess they dont want another courrier for behemoth
My guy, Most Behemoths are immune to Surge 😭
(I WONDER why???)
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAround she is still a really good anti-behemoth. Behemoth slayer is very overpowered
this is probably the same person that made Bala talents lol.
Deep diver Kanna TF when
Hello Silumantomcat, I need your advice.
I'm farming for gold assistants at the new map ever since it came out. My gamatoto is at MAX level, and only 8 gold/ 2 silver, while I've people with full legend helpers at much lower levels.
Is the helper recruit chance affected by the duration of the exploration? i.e. are 6-hour explorations more likely to recruit helpers than 3-hour and 1-hour ones?
Also, should I use catamins when trying to recruit helpers?
it's pure luck. nothing else you can do about it. the best thing you can do is to make sure that ototo assistant is 5. ototo assistant recruitment is prioritized over gamatoto helper.
@SilumanTomcatReborn Sooo... Going on longer explorations doesn't help?
The sources I watch say it doesn't matter, but my own experience shows otherwise. I don't know if they're wrong or I just have shit luck
I guess the best I can do is to farm the shit out of lucky ticket G stages so I can have enough catamins to support my exploration spree
@@陳廷允 longer expedition gives better chance to recruit helper
@@陳廷允 the recruit rate is fixed on each expedition. But longer expeditions have more attempts to recruit helpers hence better recruit rate in the end
Bruh kanna at least has better talents than me
This is what my girl gets for being probably the best behemot slayer uber? Hope vega gets a descent true form at least
Do they use RNG to decide talents?
Like gatcha to choose the gatcha units abilities and talents?
WE'RE ABOUT TO MAKE KANNA A RUSHER WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥
It's a shame, she became one of my favorite units and I was looking forward to seeing what they did with her talents.
Usually girls mons get pretty good talents as well. I was so disappointed when I saw her talents. It doesn’t really improve her and speed up is garbage. At least we get attack up.
If they don't know what talents to give some lugas then they should give em something strange, like bounty
Dear ponos why can't you just give her weaken immune or at the very least curse/wave resist but what tf did you give us, what is the fking purpose of slow immune if there isn't any relevant enemy has slow alongside speed up, did you guys want us to use her as a suside rusher, ffs we already have more than enough racist rusher
No way you actually asked for a RESIST Talent 😭
Yeah she got absolutely shafted with the talents this update but at least we have survivor and attack up talents (it's time to stack with a massive dmg up orb to troll Darkjo)
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAround because no matter how you look those 2 have way more usesage against black or behemoth then slow immune and i say at the very least
She got giga disrespected, ponos better not ruin her uf/ut or I'll riot
Hello, when is 14.1 comming to EN?
Next year
poor girl got the wrong treasure bag
Hello bora congrats for getting an UF
Hi when will be half discount for capsules?
Probably lunar new year (Feb 2025)
We got no gacha mitama a couple updates ago, and now we get this :(
tbh 13.7 was one of the best updates they've ever added, that's why 14.0 or 14.1 was pretty mediocre in comparison to it. fingers crossed that they add COTC outbreak chapter 3 with a big reward in 14.2 and upcoming.
Not giving dounle bounty for kanna, freeze for bliza is such a sin they made
You can’t show new bora form right ?
i can, but i want to do amakusa talent first
@ yeah as you like but i thought you can’t cuz of copyright or smth
No. Ultra Talent is accessible as soon as update drops. So they are safe to upload. The only illegal content on this update is the new UBERFEST unit and new Advent unit
Yoshimoto type fate😢
Himeyuri, Ruri & Reika gets relic targetting, if only kanna got it too, more powercreep to relic
Dojo nuts, rejoice after this update
Double Bounty on Ultra Talents, TRUST
at least with chronos you can kinda excuse speed up since she’s not really fast at all even if its sometimes detrimental and can be useful in some situations where getting her closer faster is helpful, but speed up is a downgrade for kanna especially since she’s already fast
When speed up on chronos is a better investment you know its bad
Will there be deep diver kanna true form siluman cat?
@@Itsamemario6424 Insya Allah next year
Aw man, i wanted her to get a double bounty talent a year or two ago..... :(
They did her dirty :( at least there’s the stat talents
I might need the slow immune in rank 12 dojo
I literally don’t get it. Why is it that when a unit is actually good, they get awful talents? At least hp and attack up are always good
They really got scared of pretty adventurer to give her actual worthwhile talents, it’s such a disappointment when you see other monster girl units like Reika or ruri and their talents
No worries kanna get double bounty as a ultra talent
That's to be expected from a good uber tbh, I don't get why everyone is disappointed. It's a gacha game, they won't hand you overpowered units on a silver platter, unless they add another meta no-gacha unit like they've been doing for the last 3 years or so.
I don't know how Talents are handing them in a silver Platter, when getting NP is till so annoying 😭
AND it's an Uber, so even worse...
@@Mr.ChaosPollensAllAround If you don't waste it on every new thing and only actually use it when you need it, it builds up much faster than you might think.
Wow only with 1 Kanna he beat filibuster 0.2
yeah, she is very op on metabuster stages (ignore the other 20++ failed attempts)
nooo not getting coal for christmas againnn 😭😭😭
These talents have to be a joke right
We know who lost the 50/50 😆
Then that means, it's guaranteed in the next one (Ultra Talents)
I need you make video " fight new Brutal boss ":/
i would if i could, but the stage is not even scheduled yet
@SilumanTomcatReborn oh :/
That must really stink, hopefully she gets good UT’s or UF
So level 5 speed up or what?
Don't buy it if you don't need her for dojo. She is already faster than chibigau
Using Kanna as a rusher LD.....meh
All the new forms in this Update (except daliasan) are flops.
She started off so strong and ponos ruined both her true form and talents
Double bounty robbed
Hi
Well i guess ultra form is the only way to save kanna (for those who upgrade her speed)
Sure she got bad talents, but at least it's not Shishilan talents
Shouldve got slow or something not this shit
Super disappointing :(