The Sega Saturn Hardware Buyers Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- An episode about the various styles and makes of Sega Saturn hardware.
NOTES:
Many of these systems have pack in games. Virtua Fighter Remix appeared in many of them.
There are a few systems here that have different boxes and themes available. There are Xmas Nights and Sonic versions of the White Model 2 Saturn for instance.
I tried to focus on the main entries for each type of system, and avoid nuances like pack in games, pack in peripherals, or special boxes.
My launch grey Saturn shown in this video was bought day 1 when the system hit Japan. It cost me $700+ to get it next day.
Of all my Saturn's(I own 8), the model 2 has been the most unreliable. I have had 2 fail. One with a CD drive, one with the mainboard.
If you are just starting out with the Saturn, I recommend the grey Japanese system as your first purchase. They are cheap, reliable, and easy to find.
The Samsung and Navi Saturn's are the last of the products I truly want in my collection. Price and availability being a major obstacle.
I didn't mention it in the video, but the Western released Model 1 Saturn's came with a different controller than the launch Japanese units. This controller wasn't the worst, but the Japanese pad killed it overall.
The Derby Stallion Saturn actually didn't have the game with it. It was released along side the game, and included a special sticker set.
Music in this episode in order:
Gain Ground - Awaken
Ghouls N Ghost - Stage 1
Batman - Intro
Hang On GP - Albatross Cliff Reef
Castlevania Bloodlines - Bloody Tears
Contra Hard Corps - Hard Corp Blues
Thunder Force V - Legendary Wings
Shadow Dancer - Stage 2-1
TMNT Hyperstone Heist - New York
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Sega Lord X I bought 3 SEGA Saturn’s recently and all of them didn’t work :/
the model 2 is unreliable? that explains why my US saturn model 2 won't read the discs anymore.
Do you know if there's a way to get a japanese console working on an australian pal crt?
I'd google it but I'm not keen on going down a 4hr rabbit hole.
SNES has the same problem with turning yellow
@@kammyabhainn3053 rip
I recently picked up a Japanese model 2 Saturn from my local retro shop and I’m so in love with the design 😍 I much prefer white mixed with bright colors as opposed to black and grey
Wow! I consider myself a big Sega fan, but I've never even heard half of the Saturn variants you showed. Shame on me. By far the best Saturn guide ever! thank you!
Grant H Lee try lairds lair for actual obscure Sega stuff ☺️☺️☺️
I swapped all my Magic the Gathering cards with my bros for a Saturn and heaps of games, I have no idea what I did with it 😞
The Gunman damn that was a actually great trade
@@sammyramirez6869 he may have had thousands of cards and very rare ones though
I've always wanted a Sega Saturn ever since I was a kid. And it blows my mind that the cartridge slot in the back didn't allow backwards compatibility with Sega Genesis games. What a missed opportunity.
In the early technical specs it does mention something about the cartridge port being used for games it was just never implemented. My guess is they planned on using it for backwards compatibility whilst the Saturn was intended to be a 2d machine and abandoned it when they had to rush to add another processor after they saw the PlayStation specs.
They could have used the same cartridge slot as the Mega Drive, allowing for backwards compatibility. the Sound CPU could be used as the main CPU in Mega Drive games, but i’m unsure how the sound would work.
As a RISC architecture, getting the Hitachi SH2 to handle code written for the CISC 68000 cpu of the Genesis would have been a difficult task on their tight schedule to get to market, especially considering those were early days for console emulators.
It was meant for it to play genesis/mega drive games too. But it was cut so it would be cheaper
I always wondered that. Man that sucks
Wow, Sega saturn was one of my first consoles, yet I had no idea there were so many kinds especially overseas. Thanks for the informative video. I learned so much from this.
I just recently purchased 2 Saturns from Japan. I really love the look of that Model 1 HiSaturn. Maybe one day, I'll buy it.
Nice choice including that music track from Shadow Dancer. That's my favorite one in the game. I was reading the video description. Interesting the model 2 was less reliable for you. My model 1 US system, which I bought new, was always trouble. It went back to SoA twice for warranty repair. Then it worked for years, but no longer does. Funny how I ended up with an early PS1 that should have skipping problems but it never gave me trouble. My model 2 Saturn that I got used a few years back is acting up now with power-supply issues.
Yeah, it's always been the model 2 Saturn's for me. I even have a Model 2 V-Saturn that has a mainboard that has a fault I can't find. It won't boot up at all.
Never was a Sega fan and then I found your channel at the start of covid and now they're my favorite games company. I'm now a happy owner of a modded Genesis Mini, Dreamcast with a MODE, and my favorite of all, a white Sega Saturn. Just saving up for a Satiator so I can Play Panzer Dragoon Saga! :) and now having been on the out side for so long I realize that as bad as the decisions Sega made were, the entire industry was really doing all they could to ensure Sega failed and I am lost as to why. Why didn't EA reverse engineer the Nintendo first? Why did publications slam Sega all the time to make people like me think wrongly they were lousy? I don't understand, but they're the best. I just graduated College and even applied for a job at Sega so fingers crossed I get it! :) all this to say, thank you! All the happiness Sega has given me has been because I stumbled into your channel and your passion rubbed of onto me
The price of a Saturn has gotten insane. I payed $30 for one with 2 controllers and 3 games at a local game store back in 08
A lot of consoles in general are typically $70-100 now days. They'll probably all go down at some point
I paid $39.99 for a boxed one on eBay in 2010.
Retro Video Games were at an all-time low from 2008-2012. Then, they slowly rose in price from 2013-2019. Retro games are just starting to decrease in price.
I think it's just normal inflation, I never noticed a real jolt upwards in price in the past 8 years or so I've been interested in the console.
@@WebVManReturns i miss those years when I could buy 10 gameboy games for less than $15 :(
I used to have that white sega saturn back then. I lost it when we kept moving homes. I loved playing games on it despite have a playstation as well.
One thing we can all agree on is the model 2 CONTROLLER is definitely better.
Hell yes - when I first played a Saturn when it launched here in England the Model 1 controller was actually slightly too big for my hands (I was a pre-teen)
Infinity2z3r0 I actually prefer the model 1 controller. I had the white model 2 Saturn for years and played with that controller and recently got the model 1 controller with my US model 1 I picked up on eBay. Going back and replaying the games I own I find the buttons to be more responsive and grip feels more comfortable. Also the buttons on the model 2 feel cheaper, they don't have the same resistance as the model 1.
I have to side with Zaku Guriin on this one. The model 1 is one of the most comfortable and unique controllers of all time. The model 2 isn't terrible but it feels and plays a bit like a generic third-party controller. I have the American versions of both.
Model 1 controller is better for shoot-em ups imo. Allows for more range of motion. Also the bigger build just feels better too.
I prefer model one pads
I love these old Sega consoles, but the "This is Cool" variant gives off some Jeb Bush "Please clap" type vibes.
You have me craving a Saturn more than ever
They are must have! Then get Assault Suit Leynos 2, Saturn Bomberman, Winter Heat and Virtual-On, for starters.
Crave these
Emulators are kinda bad, so you kind of have no choice.
definitely pick one up mate
The white edition is the best. And of course the Navi sega saturn is far the god edition. The lcd for sega Navi is the most rare item .nowadays it is impossible to get one, I try but can’t find one, even with an incredible money offer ( I was ready to give 3000 $ just for the lcd but the guy refused)
Edit: i will have the lcd in 3 weeks :-)
Isn't the white one the one that doesn't work with Outrun?
@@Z64sports I think so. I never tried it ( I have 5 Saturn).
I have the white one. The grey one looks cool as well as the white one. Both look a lot more interesting and cool than the black international Saturns. Not all white Saturns have issues with Outrun.
@@Z64sports Not all white Saturns have that problem. It’s only for the ones with motherboard revisions VA10-VA15. The early white Saturns made in 1996-1997 have the SCSU and the Motorola 68000 CPU as separate chips.
I know your comment is 4 years old but I just purchased a white Japanese Saturn and was wondering why you said the white model is the best??
Please keep doing Sega Saturn videos like this I love it!!
Also would You be interested in doing a video just like this one, but with the Dreamcast? Theres some really interesting things to talk about with the DC like the Divers 2000 CX-1 model!
The DC did have a pile of different systems. It's definitely a good idea.
Lets extend this to the Genesis & Master System as well please!
Matthew C. That would indeed be cool, however those systems have far less varients to cover and might have to be merged into one video. MD has a few revisions but no real special editions to speak of.
Had no idea there was even two different models. I thought it only applied to the joypads. Interesting info.
great video , I have just recently ordered a Hitachi Saturn with the video card, after being after one for years. cant wait to get it and fire it up to see the boot up.
Best boot sequence on the Saturn. :)
I'm so glad I had a saturn back in the day. It's just not the same excitement （or disappointment）being a retro collector.
Those pictures look familiar :)
Also the model 2 was released in South Korea and is even harder to find than the Samsung Saturn.
The only one I'm missing is the GameNavi Hi-Saturn.
The Model 2 Korean release is one of the few systems I've never seen with my own eyes. You're right, it's really rare.
I find getting ahold of a Sega Saturn isn't the biggest issue. It's finding the games at a reasonable price. Some of the games cost as much as the console if not several times more. I am currently looking into flashing an Action Replay cart with Pseudo Saturn so I can play backups. It's pointless to own a Saturn if you can't even play half the library available.
Zaku Guriin it's not hard to do just need a screw driver, some tape and a pro action replay that you wouldn't mind being erased. Note that I think after the soft mod to the pro action it will not work as a memory card but still works as a 4mb etc ram cart.Barring winning the lottery, it was the only way I was going to get to play panzer dragoon saga and it was well worth it. Also note if you are getting if for Saga you will need to find roms that allow you to switch CDs as most easily available ones didn't work for me. Good luck and have fun !!
Hit up Etsy buddy.... I have all the super expensive shooters and rpgs,, I get them for 20 bucks a pop... they come sealed , with spine cards, and look just like the real sega releases,, just make sure to buy a action replay cartridge flashed with suedo Saturn... it will let you play back ups and imports... I’m telling you the shop I buy from on Etsy is a life saver... lol... there is no way in hell I could ever afford half the Saturn games I have if it wasn’t for them...
Pity that Sega seems to have lost the source code for Panzer Dragoon Saga etc. - have always wanted to play that, and a select few Saturn exclusives (never owned a Saturn), but don't feel like paying a small fortune for a copy. These games deserve a digital re-release.
Ralph Hoskins - If I had to choose, I would rather just burn my own downloaded ISOs than enrich pirates selling repros.
That navi Hi-Saturn was super impressive!
Oh yeah. It was a tech heads dream back then.
Given all Saturns use the same video encoder (oddly enough a Sony part), I doubt there is any real difference in video output between models, Its not like the Mega Drive where Sega kept changing the encoders. At most there may be a bit more noise in the later models as the system was redesigned and made more compact.
I personally have a PAL model 1 which has a switchless mod to let me play NTSC games without converters at the proper speed. The thing to remember about the Saturn is that due to the library being quite import heavy, American or PAL units are going to need a 4in1 cart to get the most out of the library, which of course adds to the overall cost, as well as wear and tear of the system. A PAL system is also going to have issues running 60hz content at 50hz (sometimes its just slower gameplay and a squashed screen, other times its even things like stuttering music/video).
While I do prefer the look of the western Saturn (no yellowing for a start), I would say most new owners would be best getting a Japanese Saturn , or a modified western one. Also important to note of course is that anyone in 230v land (Europe, Mideast, parts of East Asia, Australia) has to use a stepdown converter with a Japanese Saturn , unless they want to fry the system.
Lastly, its also worth noting that PAL Saturns actually use different video cables than the NTSC versions, as the pinout on the AV port is different, so its important to get the right cable for the right region, as you could damage the system otherwise.
You're telling me. I recently used a Saturn PAL SCART cable on my Saturn NTSC Model 1, and my Saturn died. Oddly, unless I'm remembering wrong (is there even a N64 JPN SCART cable?), using a N64 PAL SCART cable on my N64 NTSC console has been fine. Interesting to note is that the Saturn PAL SCART cable had missing pins whereas the N64 PAL one had them all.
I have the Skeleton model from Brazil still brand new and sealed in the box. I think it's pretty cool considering the unknown history between Sega and Techtoy. I've been looking for a complete Saturn Hi Navi for a minute.
I knew quite a few people with a mega drive but nobody with a Saturn.
Nfo I didn’t know.
Thanks
for a thorough review.
I could watch more, much, much more.
The TecToy version of the Skeleton console is relatively cheap here in Brazil. You can find them in good shape for just over US$ 100. But you mentioned they are not compatible with US games. Are you sure?
A TecToy Brazil Skeleton model fitted with a Pseudo Saturn cart or an Action Replay to break the region locking would be the perfect setup
In europe there was barely any Saturn promotion. They did so well with the mega drive, yet the saturn barely recieved attention from SEGA
My favorite is the Japanese Toys 'R' Us white Sonic model.
Loved saturn, but always bought Japanese imports. The west was handled badly. I have a Derby stallion and had to seek out the outrun p1k version. I may buy a model 1 again at since point since it was my original. It broke in 2003 with graphical glitches.
It's a shame the white one turns yellow. I like that color scheme the most.
@SegaLordX --- Could these cartridges (Advanced ROM Cartridge | Extended RAM Cartridge | Backup Memory Cartridge) be used simultaneously?
The Saturn is such a beautiful and solid machine. Much more reliable than the Dreamcast.
Why is that,what makes Dreamcast unreliable?
@@xamergt the power supply
I disagree. My Saturn psu has been giving me more problems than my dreamcast
Yea dude my Dreamcast is a rock.
I’ve noticed laser failure is at a higher rate on DC than Saturn. But that might be because their are more DC laying around on the used market to pick up. In my collection, my Saturn runs 100%. Dreamcast has trouble reading discs half the time, even after pot adjustments so it’s on its last legs.
i never had a Saturn, we skipped from Megadrive to PSX to Dreamcast, but i really like the looks of the model 1 NTSC-J
also, i recognize that ESWAT ending theme in the video outro
I have the white and grey Japanese Saturns. My US Saturn is a 2nd gen too. (A spare...)
The biggest problem with the Sega Saturn is you had compatibility problems with earlier system revisions... My Sega Saturn would not play Street fighter alpha 2 gold to save its life and it really pissed me off!! By the way there was nothing wrong with the system it was just some stupid incompatibility because other games work just fine and there was nothing wrong with the game because I went back to the store and exchanged it like five times...
Not rare but did you mention the white sonic silouette saturn?
Old versions of outrun and space harrier didnt work on my m2 victor and cool saturn. But they repressed them.
Just bought a mint model 1 japanese launch unit (gray). I also bought an RGB/SCART to Component Video converter and the image looks divine on my 29'' Sony CRT.
Now the next step is to get a Fenrir or a Satiator, but I haven't decided which one I should get.
Great overview! I had no idea there were that many variations
It's really quite amazing for a system with only 9.5 million units sold.
I find the European sega gamepad absolutely gorgeous, if they made it with two analogues I'd buy one
I already have a working North American model. I'd be even happier with just the plastic shell for use as a PC case. Then I'd get a motherboard, graphics card, PSU, hard drive, etc., hook up and cable-manage everything appropriately, and play some games. Not a mere Raspberry Pi, but a full-blown PC that can run Fallout 4, Skyrim, etc. on the highest settings.
Hold a sec, the revision differences between the Model 1+2 Saturns in regards to the visuals do make a big difference. In some titles it is night and day. It all depends on your display that you are using. That goes without saying, the better your display...the better your picture will be.
I just purchased Hyper Duel for $350 and I thought *that* was expensive. Some of these console variants for $1500+... wow.
J Kemp Shouldve just modded your saturn and bought a repro for 20 bucks
full moon that's what I do, these games are amazing, but $300+ a game is way too much.
@@elblazemonkey1 maybe to you. Not for others
@@drunkensailor112 at the end of the day we're both getting the same experience anyway.
I think there are even more variants around, some quite odd. Retro Core covered years ago a karaoke machine built using Saturn technology that would boot Saturn games.
There are a few oddities in the Saturn family. I stuck to the readily available retail units. There's also stuff like the SGX.
segaretro.org/SGX
I love the MK-80100
The Saturn model 2 seems to have been the one I used to own, meaning it had blinking lights indicating access and Power. this was the machine that got the Connection in the machine to the Scart lead jammed so that the pins do not fit to connect it it anymore, I got it used i 1998, and even if I can tell you I had to replace the Scart lead once or twice there was never a case of games or system freezing as with this one I have since 2016, the people who has sold it to me have kept on noting that they cannot tell that anything is wrong with the machine, that it runs without need to Point out whats faulty, but I am not convinced, and now I have spoken to be true about it. I fail to understand why machine freezes and what happened so that I can no longer connect the scart lead to my old machine, I am using the same cables now, but machine had to be changed, I Think I might have been ripped off
I only want the Sega Saturn for a few games like Sonic 3D Blast and Rayman 1. Both have the best versions of the game on that hardware.
Ghouls N Ghosts!! Such good game music!
I agree. Early goodness on the Mega Drive.
The plural for Saturn is Saturns, not Saturn's. Don't let spell check push you around.
fantastic job, so much great information! I already have a model 2 but I would love to get a 20 pin version with a busted CD drive and install Rhea as a backup system
The Rhea is going to resurrect many a dead Saturn. Well, if they can ever mass produce the damn thing, that is.
Im from Australia & i have a White Model 2 Japanese Sega Saturn With region free cart & voltage converter
I see my V Saturn in the thumbnail! Wonder what youll say about it
Seems like they were trying to copy the 3do company with the different branding. If I was to get an import I would need a step down converter.
Sega sourced the parts thru other companies like Hitachi and JVC. In return, Sega gave them a license to make and sell their own branded Sega consoles.
Simone I already knew this but great explanation for any newcomers :)
I have a European model 2 all black with grey buttons.
I wanna go visit Saturn one day..
The Derby Stallion console did not come with the game, only a Derby Stallion sticker set. I bought mine new in box on ebay for $400 a few years back.
That's right. The Derby Stallion set I bought came with the game, but it was used, and I assumed it was part of the original bundle. I added a note in the description.
I had always thought mine was missing something, thanks for that info!!!!! I got mine mildly used for $100 when dinosaurs still roamed the earth.
I got a model 1 for christmas a long time ago from my father, played it a lot but then it just went into to storage and didn't work anymore. I started watching your videos and got really into the idea of having a Saturn again so when I was living with my ex girlfriend I went to a used game store and they had one for sale so I bought the model 2 they had and that's what I got connected up to my TV now. I'd really like to own one of the clear ones, those look really cool man.
I know it's been awhile since someone made a comment but if you were to say to a new person collecting a Saturn now which model would you say would be a good one to go for
I didn't know Model 2 was less reliable, I always assumed it was the other way around, very informative video great job.
I've always wanted the stallion saturn.
It was less reliable for me. Your mileage may vary, of course.
I love my Stallion! I have probably thousands of hours of playtime on my OG Model 2 that I bought used at a pawn shop [ the only way I could have afforded one back then ] and it still runs like a champ. I have a NIB for a backup that I bought as they were being marked down, I think for $149.
I have a mint, complete Christmas NiGHTS bundle, Christmas packaging version of the model 2 V Saturn. It is super rare and I never see them for sale online. I wish I knew how many were made. Anybody know where I can find that information?
great video man btw where could you get your sega saturn moded to switch region and play backups ?
Had to order a Japanese Saturn cause it was more affordable than the U S Saturn,my Saturn wouldn't read disc or the cartridge slot doesn't work anymore ☹️
This guy is so freakin' smart!
Would the Salon 40 volume cream method (used in shoe restoration) work with un-yellowing these sega saturn cases?
I'm really surprised the VCD card is worth as much as it is. I've purchased about four import Saturns throughout the years, the last being about three years ago, and all but one came with them inside. The only problem I've had with any of the units is the CD drive going out, and the replacements for certain models being impossible to come by these days. Fortunately, I was able to grab a Rhea and Phoebe to replace those to keep them going. I'd never heard of Model 1s having better visuals, either, and I've honestly never noticed a difference (I have a domestic and an an import model 1 along with several model 2s). The main thing left that I want is that Christmas Nights-themed slip cover for the white model 2s. I love the little logo in the corner, but it's becoming harder to come by.
I love the Xmas Nights box from Japan. It was just a pull over of the standard box, but it looks so cool.
I am looking to purchase a Saturn and your channel has been very helpful in learning what the Saturn has to offer. Thank you.
Nice. I'm glad the content helps. I'll be doing more on this subject in the future, too.
I'd hawk for a Derby Stallion or Skeleton Saturn, they are beauties!! I've even seen them in Retrogaming shops. My Derby Stallion is my favorite of the bunch.
One last thing folks might want to bear in mind: if you're using a cart for region bypass, you won't be able to go past the first disc on multi-disc games. You'll need either a modded or proper region system to finish multi-disc stuff from other regions.
Does that count compilations like street fighter collection
@@admiralAlfonso9001 Not most of them. It's games where you have to switch to the next disc to continue the story, but not all of them. If the game prompts a save before the disc swap, you're fine. If it doesn't, that's when you're hosed. On the compilations, it's just a separate disc with other games, so it's fine.
Of course i went to you for an overview of Saturn versions lol
A guy in my area is selling the HST-0004 CIB with 4 games for $175 so I'm going to grab that.
I actually just picked up a Victor Saturn, for only $100, with$10 shipping from Japan. Person was extremely nice, I couldn't help getting it.
As a bonus, had a video card attachment inside the battery area! Wasn't expecting it, but it's cool to have just for the sake of having it for reasons.
Dude I adore you channel by far my favorite TH-cam channel! The crazy thing is I don't own a single piece of Sega Hardware. But this video is getting me interested in purchasing my first Saturn. You did such an amazing job in your channel talking about how great the Saturn is I want try it for myself. Thank you so much for what you do and I look forward to all your upcoming content.
I have a white Saturn with Sonic the Hedgehog on the Cd lid. Was this an official release?
The Brazilian Saturns actually play all NTSC games with no cart or mod. I own the white one and the skeleton one complete in box. Finding a Navi Hi complete in box is impossible.
Right, but the video signal was PAL-M, correct? It doesn't work on an NTSC TV, despite the region coding of the disc.
On my CRT TV it works but is in black and white. On my modern TV it works just fine. So yeah, the Pal M signal does disrupt the signal on TV’s that were out at the time. I used basic composite for both TV’s.
Yeah, I had a friend that had a PAL-M system and we never could get it working in color back then on an NTSC TV. They will not work on a European PAL TV either from what I hear.
I remember buying a used Saturn n mind blown that the cartridge slot wasn’t for genesis games lol. Didn’t even like sega really. Just collecting games and systems. But obviously that was stupid decision. Then bought the Dreamcast and was shocked it didn’t have a second joystick. Sega wanted to die. No one could be that stupid to repeat one dumb decision after another.
I have TecToy model 1
Does it not play games from USA?
It runs games produced in Brazil by Tectoy as well as games produced in the USA by Sega.
All video games produced in Brazil have always been compatible with the US region including the latest ones like Xbox 360, One, PS3 and PS4.
Here is a picture of the Brazilian game and the American game side by side. The game by Tectoy the box is in cardboard different from the American version that is in acrylic.
i.imgur.com/bMizaOP.jpg
Love these guides , even though I own 14 Saturn’s O.o , never noticed a difference in quality in the later models will boot up outrun now to check now
I have 5 JP saturns, and the Japanese model 1 launch Saturn, is by far the most reliable in every way.
have 2 early model north American, early Japanese model. these systems are tough as hell. I remember back in the day I tried to kill my Saturn. I played Iron storm all night long knowing how hot it was. I was curious to see if it could handle the heat. I still have that system today and it works. of course I take much better care of it today. lol back then, Saturn's were plenty available for cheap if I did need to replace it back then. pretty cool episode! i learned a lot, thanks!!
Kevin Strade I use to do the hot swap region switch and 4mb ram cart back in 98, 99. That Saturn still works, the slot is a little fenicky, but it works. My ps1 had to be turn over to work properly towards the end.lol
As a newcomer to the Sega Saturn I am trying to find out if you can mix and match controllers from different models of Saturn?
All controllers work on all Saturn's.
@@SegaLordX thank you for that that means that the control that I had was faulty... I had a Mark 1 Grey on a Mark 2 Black not Hitachi...
Thank you for clearing that up for me as it didn't work at all
Amazing video
Great comprehensive buyers guide, thanks!
Which model and color revision is your favorite?
The original oval Hitachi Hi-Saturn is my favorite.
I have a model one pal Sega Saturn and it still works great and also my Sega Mega drive still works-ish, tends to crash a lot now and yes its the same system I had when I was a brat and it did get bashed around a lot. I would like my Saturn modded to play the Japanese games but fear the upgrade would ruin my system. Like you and many others have said we can pick up affordable systems so I can take the chance on one of them to be kitted out.
Damn mang I have 3x broken ps1, 4x broken ps3 and 1 duffed up ps4, overuse of the systems perhaps compared to the Saturn? Perhaps!
Thanks for another useful vid Mr Sega Lord X, much respect as always.
I had 4 Xbox 360's die on me last generation. I know they had their issues, but jeez!
Love this video =)
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. I want to do more on this subject.
Awesome bro...
I bought my Saturn back in 2002 that came with 15 games, 2 light guns, the modem, 2 controllers, all for $75.
I’ve read the v8 boards have an issue and that’s where the Saturn 2 rumours come from about the video quality. It’s just one revision of the Saturn 2
Yep, later models could come with some tricky revisions here and there. My Japanese, white Model 2, for example, isn't C-Sync compatible, so I'm forced to use RGB cables with sync on Luma, with my OSSC. Not a huge deal, in the end, but still a notable limitation.
Galdelico if it makes you feel better according to MLG rgb master class it's really hard to tell the difference.😸
It really is. In any case, the Saturn comes out with one of the cleanest RGB pictures I've ever seen.
Great video, as I have never seen a history of the various Japanese Saturns. My North American Sega Saturn (purchased in December 95) has miraculously come back to life. Initially, the only game I could get to work was Nights, but in messing around with it I got Shinobi Legions to work too. Things get tricky when you start playing with consoles that are over 20 years old.
Absolutely. I have a 3DO that didn't work, took it apart and looked at it, put it back together and it works fine now. Go figure.
I have the mk-80000a US version and the Japanese hst-3210. Is one better than the other? I plan on selling one but not sure
Zero dislikes. That's quite a feat on TH-cam.
People thumbs down my videos all the time, such a downer!
@TrueSinister now 11
there's two controllers of the Sega Saturn exclusive in Brazil pretty rare controllers
Pretty sure I saw one of those Samsung Saturns in a retro game market in Seoul. But considering they were selling boxed Hyundai Comboy/Famicom games for about $600 USD each, I was too afraid to ask for the price...
But maybe Sega stuff is cheaper: Samsung published Sonic 3 was ~$30 USD!
Very interesting history Korea had with video games!
I ended up getting a North American model 1 made in June 1995.
Only had my grey Japanese Saturn model 1 since Friday, and I've already played it a lot.
Informative video, thanks man. I just became interested in the Saturn recently and decided I want to buy one and mod it. Would you recommend a Model 1 HST3200 with a FenrirDuo+20 pin sega switcher or a Saroo? I want to keep the optical drive and maintain compatibility.
From a price standpoint, the Saroo is hard to pass up. Seems that compatibility is improving pretty rapidly and those extra features make it a nearly all in one solution.
Next up. Day 1 games. It is still a taboo system for me. What are the top 10 games you recommend?
I'm actually going to add to this video quite a bit. Functionality, peripherals, games, etc. I really want to make it something good for new and potential Saturn owners.
you know i liked the saturn and all but ours was a piece of crap it locked up all the time scratched a cd of mine and now it doesnt work anymore.
The original Sega made model 1 japanese is still the best looking out the bunch. Tho that Hitachi GPS version is very nice.
I agree. It could be because I imported on launch day, but that model IS the Saturn to me.
Now that Pseudo Saturn is getting bigger, it's important to note that the grey Japanese Saturn is a bit fucky with Pseudo Saturn, specifically the JHL loader, which is *required* to play burned copies of Panzer Dragoon Saga as well as some other burned games. Go for literally any Model 2 round button console if you plan to burn it up.
Awesome Video man
Thanks. :)
Awesome video thanks for the info it'll help a lot
Thank you for letting me know. :)