The Most RELIABLE GENERATORS Ever Made? Lister Diesel for OFF GRID!
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- A brief look into Lister Diesel Engines, and a new acquisition for the homestead to power the house and a future shop. This is a 1968 Lister SR2, 2 cylinder diesel coupled to a 6kw generator.
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Its a four stroke
Yup.
Thanks for that! Admittedly I was going off of info from the Craigslist post… I’ve done a lot more research now and know better…
I live in the UK in a little town in the Cotswolds' called Dursley where The Lister engine was very lightly made , it was the home of the Lister engine it is where the main factory was , my grandfather and my farther worked and my brother did a Lister apprenticeship which was one of the best you could have in this country , they also made Sheep shears that are one of the best you could buy , It was a big factory that employed about 5000 people in its hay day here in Dursley ,people were bussed in from all over the county everyday to work , but in the 80ies the factory burnet down , but buy then it was taken over and sold to the Petter group , so very lightly one of my family had a hand in building your engine
That is awesome, thank you for taking the time to comment! Super interesting!
@@HarrisT love to see how you get on with it in the future
Hawker siddley owned lister and petter and on 1st jan 1986 merged them to make LP LTD
@@dspencer8827 yes thats right m i find it a shame that here in Dursley its all gone now , the site where is was is all houses now
Listers also had a factory in Wroughton near Swindon (the since-demolished Marine Mountings factory, which I understood had made Motor Gun Boat gun turrets during WW2). I worked on the night shift there in 1964-5, initially assembling the SL and LD 2, 3 & 4 cylinder engines. Later I moved to the test bay, and got to run them on the electric dynos. We had the occasional drama there, such as crank weights that had not been properly torqued down, which when run up punched through the side cover or the block and flew across the test bay.
After testing, the engines were fitted with any auxiliary bits like a generator or marine reduction gearing and then crated. The night shift at the time was a real UN: some English, a few Irish, Scots, and Welsh, Iranian, Indian, Pakistani, Polish, Russian and West Indian. I was the only Canadian. It was an interesting place to work, and I enjoyed it there.
Many years later, while visiting the Fisherman's Museum in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia I heard a familar thumping down at the end of a pier. It was a really ancient Lister single, pumping the bilges of one of their ships. The Cold War radar station chains across northern Canada (Pine Tree Line, DEW Line, etc) all used Lister generators.
That is an awesome story man. Thanks for sharing 👍 stay tuned!
I am so jealous, as a heavy equipment operator I can appreciate quality. 👍
Thanks for watching - stay tuned!
I have sold and serviced Lister engines in Southern Africa since the late 60's.... That old SR is one of the best and you can still get spares.... The newer model is the TR.... I must admit to rolling on the floor laughing when I watched this... Have fun and enjoy... BTW - fuel consumption is negligible as against a petrol gen set....
Thank you for commenting! Folks like you are a testament to the longevity of these engines. I bet you’ve got some stories people would love to hear!
What a great birthday present! That's a very nice sounding engine.
I once worked on a tug boat that had a Lister as a backup generator for when the main engine was shut down. It worked flawlessly. The only complaint was the noise, they are a bit loud being air cooled.
We also towed an equipment barge that had a ramp on the bow. This ramp was raised and lowered with a hydraulic winch system that was driven by a Lister on a hydraulic pump. We were on the West Coast of Canada where it gets a little cool in the winters and you are %100 correct when you say "it might be a little harder to start when its cold!" Its as hard AF to crank when the oil is minus 10 degrees thick! Either is required, even with two people, one to crank and one to throw the compression release levers. When to oil is tar thick you cant two hand crank and throw the compression release lever shut before it stops turning!
If you run it out of fuel,....it will run on either long enough to re-prime and run on fuel again!!
Best emergency generator power ever!! If it was running and you shut it down,...it will start again when you need it. No bells, no whistles just good solid reliable quality machinery!
As a side note,...I'm in South Africa as I type this, the country is suffering "load shedding" a couple of times a day,.....almost everyone here could use your Lister!!
That is awesome! Thank you for commenting! This winter when we have 5+ feet of snow I’ll dig it out and make a cold start video for you guys 👍
I'm actually now researching lister engines as an option to generate Electricity in South Africa.... that's what brought me to this comment today.
Lister is a good solid, reliable chioce but do keep in mind they are noisy. Even with a good silencer, the engine itself is noisy.
BTW, you're up early!? By my estimate it 06:30 in SA right now! @marthinusstone5530
@@rickc5303 Thanks! Maybe the engine can be placed inside a box or small enclosure to further dampen the sound, but will that not lead to cooling problems?
Yes, around 6:30... but I'm up at 5 already. I can't reliably stick to routines unless they are placed in the time between waking up and going to work...
It wouldn't be good to contain the unit in an enclosure without considerable airflow.
They are a very robust unit, but with the hot climate in SA, I would think maximum airflow would be necessary.
Every time we have a power outage here, I always think "It's about time I got round to fixing that Lister genny that's languishing in the shed", then immediately forget about it when the power comes back on. This video has given me the necessary impetus to have a go this weekend - thanks for the kick up the butt! 🤣
I have a number of the CS (Cold Start) series of Lister Diesel engines at my place in Queensland Australia 2 2 cylinder 2 3 cylinder and 1 4 cylinder. The 3 cylinders (both 70+ years old) are used as back up for a refrigeration plant on the property. The CS machines were made by Listers primarily at their Cinderford factory rather than Dursley and they, especially the single and 2 cylinder versions are the real collectors items. They were manufactured from 1930 until 1974 by Listers and subsequently have been made by various manufacturers in India and Iran. A continuous run of 94 years so far. There are a lot of videos of Lister CS engines on You tube.
As you rightly state the lister SR, ST and HR series were the real "Gold" standards in engine reliability. look up the old Lister literature and they quote an engine life of some 120,000 hours subject to being looked after. also the fuel economy knocks the spots of more modern engines. I used to run over 30 of the SR, ST and HR engines
Don't forget the CS slow speed Listers and Petters...they are now made in India.....
They are imported into the USA as "air compressors" with kits available by separate import to convert them to diesel engines...
EPA or something mumble mumble...
120,000 hours is an insane lifespan by todays standards. I’ve wondered about the import status of the newer models and listeroid clones. I’d love to have one of the quieter, low speed models you mentioned in another comment.
I have a generator with a TR2 Lister Petter engine, little bit later model with direct injection. It consumes 3 litres of fuel per hour at full load makling 8KW. Apparently these were used in radio transmitters where grid power was not available. They had a large oil tank connected to the sump so they could run 6 months non stop then serviced and run for the next 6 months.
@@XXXXIndices Countryman used to make scores of these sets c/w acoustic enclosures.
The revs that this engine needs to be at to produce 120VAC 60hz electricity are:
900rpm for a 4 pole generator direct drive,
1800rpm for a 2 pole generator direct drive.
There are earlier slow speed Lister CS and Petter (both air and water cooled diesels) operating at 600/750 rpm but with a belt drive utlising pulleys to achieve the 1800rpm rotation speed of the generator...a lot less "noisy"...
4 pole is 1800 RPM, 2 pole requires 3600 RPM which is what most petrol generators run at.
ufff !! That majestic lucrative sound, that I look for in lister or listeroid (like Ruston) engines ❤❤
Very cool. Super nice find.
4:33 I believe that engine has a RPM adjustment on the gear cover above the red guard. I think it's a 10-32 stud with jam nuts.
That engine was made with imperial BSF or BA threads.
@@PeterChapman-rg6gr All the SR/ST engines I've worked on was SAE.
If you have the 12VDC or 24VDC starters it's not hard to add a "thermostart" valve to allow a bit of diesel to burn in the metal intake manifold so as to provide hot air for easy starting in cold weather.
In fact even just a small motorcycle battery and a push button with wiring onto the thermostart could do the same job.....
Thank you for the info! I’ll look into that!
I ran several lister SR and ST engines for many years for prime power. As you stated, they are the standard that all others aspire to be. I have rebuilt quite a few of these and I can say that they are quite simple to work on. The RPM is adjusted buy a little screw ( about 1/8" x 1" ) sticking out the front cover by the crank handle towards the top of the cover. The starting procedure is to lift the stop lever over the first catch to where it turns about 90 deg., that allows the fuel system to go to full fuel and will make it start easier when cold. Once it starts, then you put the lever back over the stop ramp so that it is just prior to the stopping position, that position is the run position and will limit the rpm if something goes amiss in the governor assembly. This engine sounds good and should give many years of service, if you change oil every 200 running hours, and keep it supplied with plenty of fresh air. It is air cooled and letting it get too hot will cause it to start leaking oil or worse, and then you will have oil everywhere since it throws it throughout the entire air cooling paths, and you can't usually find the leak since it is usually coming from behind the flywheel. Good luck on your Lister journey.
Thank you for the great information! It will definitely give me some good service. Stay tuned 👍
Cool man I might have to get me on of these.
Have one at a family ranch it's an awesome generator it still starts easy at 115 degrees or zero turn it over three times and flip the compression release
Great video, had several Lister light units down at the harbor in LA. One thing, the rpm is important, on that gen set 1800 rpm is probably 60 HZ, if this is off too much can damage electrical motor driven units, like refrigerators. Many multi meters now have a AC frequency setting to check the HZ, may want to verify this before connecting to a motor load.
That is a great point. It’d be interesting to integrate some gauges into the gen head, and frequency would be a useful one.
With military gensets, the rule of thumb is to set the speed @ 62 HZ no load. I've always done this and never had a problem.
I had 5 Three cylinder of these generators Looks just like yours , I still have one and sold the others.
There are champions of generators for sure. I'm assuming mine is twelve to sixteen kilowat Brunch the house and barn. Nice video Sir
Not 2 stroke
Used both the Lister generator and its twin which was a compressor unit to build 1,000's of homes in the Bay Area in the 70's and 80's. Great unit and yours is very clean. Watch the crank handle on cold mornings. You have bought wisely, the Kabota tractor is great too.
Thanks buddy 👍 stay tuned!
Looking forward to the follow-up
I’d buy one of those.
The apocalypse generator.
Just shows how little people know! If he did his research like he said, he would know it's a 4 stroke!
Haha. Luckily the TH-cam army is here to correct me
I want one of these things... Maybe 2 or 3......
I know you have many, but that is the only genset you need. Take good care of it and it will last indefinitely.
It has a cold start device you pull stop lever out and turn anti clockwise then ckld start is set
Thank you for that! I’d heard about the cold start setting but couldn’t find it. I mentioned this to someone else, but when we get 5+ feet of snow up here I’ll have to dig it out and do a cold start video for you guys!
It moves fuel pump to max delivery
Motorcycles as well.
Hey bud did I see you in the comments talking about your lister on Chris and Stacey livestream?
It wasn’t me 🙂
@HarrisT 10 4 ok, financial prepper was talking about a Lister the other day and magically I saw your video lol because the google machine totally isn't reading our minds! Great vid btw, wish I could find one for a reasonable cost to rebuild in our machine shop...🤙🇺🇸
Yep it’s totally weird how those connections are made! Keep your eyes out on Craigslist and Marketplace. You’ll find one. There’s also a guy that commented on here about listers or lister clones skirting the import ban under the guise of “compressors” that can be converted to generators. Worth a shot! I personally would love to have one of the older model units that run at 600 something RPM because they are way quieter. This one is pretty loud!
@HarrisT right on man thanks, stay blessed. 🤙🇺🇸
Those are a 4 stroke. Excellent engines tho!
Diesel Jesus
If you make a better exhaust the lister will be a lot quieter. You could like give it a chimney or direct the exhaust through gravel. I saw a guy do that with his stationary engine and it could not be heard. Needs drainage I assume.
I’d love to build an exhaust vault for it like you mentioned. Stay tuned 👍
um, it's not a 2 stroke. for one, it has valves, while a two stroke diesel (or gasoline) doesnt. secondly, it doesnt have a blower. Other than that, it's a nice engine.
Only bad thing about a diesel generator, they are loud as fkk.
This is extra loud because it is air cooled...so the ignition in the cylinder isn't muffled by a jacket of water....
Also the pathetic original small mufflers that are OEM should be replaced with much larger and far better quality mufflers.
In stationary mode they benefit from being bolted down to a ton of concrete cube...
and the exhaust run through an empty 55 gallon oil drum inset in the ground, filled with large rocks...
then it just produces a background thud and thrum....
(Owner of a Petter AVA2 and Lister 3.5kw gen head....)
What an interesting idea for a muffler! I have the space at my property to try that so I might give it a shot. It is quite loud…
It is a 4 stroke.
Nice, but its a 4 Stroke diesel. Thanks
2 stroke ?
Sorry , but I just don't believe it's a 2 cycle. Naturally aspirated 2 cycles by Lister are just to far and few to accept. Just my opinion! Had one like yours exactly hand start and all It was 4 cycle. 2cycles also use twice as much fuel as 4 cycles do. Does it have one set of valves or two ? Two cycle Diesels have a big side port. Looks like yours has an Intake manifold and exhaust manifold. Don't get me wrong if its 4 cycle that's a big win win for you...
I have almost the exact same thing, however mine is 7.5kw 240VAC 1500RPM. The worst thing about it is noisy! OMG! 😣
Yes, super noisy! A couple people have recommended building and exhaust vault for it to quiet it down. I might try to do that in the future.
4 stroke fer sure
Two-Stroke???
NOT
it is not a two stroke its a four
Because it’s 🇬🇧
And it’s 4 stroke
It's 4 stroke. Not 2 stroke
IT'S NOT A 2-STROKE...