As a Mario player, the feeling of accidentally landing on stage instead of grabbing ledge with upB and losing because of it, worst feeling. Wizzy knew it was ggs. Great game otherwise! Always learn something new watching Wizzy
Whizzy’s reserved play style puts him right at the range corrin wants to play. He should’ve played more agro rush down. He did very well the few time he turned it on.
@@torch7933 more aggressive rushdown. Essentially a more in your face play style where you aren’t giving the opponent room to react or respond to your frame data. Like a kurama esque or any sheik player.
@@tendo_no_entiendoyeah but cotton is the perfect character to counter that strat, that’s why she been doing so well in the meta recently, people like shadick and neo perfected there play around that. That’s why is such a matchup check for too players when they play them. You wouldn’t think corrin would excel at that at first glance because she is slow but her buttons and kit help her with that. And both neo and shadick using her side b for movement spices up her options just a lil more.
@@tendo_no_entiendoBut Kurama lose to SHADIC. So maybe the correct strategy is just don't play Mario against Corrin? But I don't think Joker or Yoshi is a good answer since SHADIC beat MKLEO and Danbi as well!!!
@@riqua27 lol, certainly. But if he found success with his main by playing a different game plan he should continue doing that until either the opponent adapts or he wins. I think it’s more a tactical failing than a MU.
Holy hell a Corrin winning a major? What is this SSB4? Edit : guys I'm happy Shadic won and can show that Corrin is still viable. My main in Smash 4 and my best character still
Brown mario wasnt the grey one. It was the purple mario skin but because one of them was color blind they thought it was brown. That is what my friend explained to me so if he is wrong then sorry.
:25 for anyone womdering, beefy smash dudes theorized that the grey mario skin is actually what used tk be the brown mario skin. Since in smash 64 mario had no grey option and instead had a brown one. Then through melee and brawl it progressivley got darker
Marioss should look at the cape option more not only does ot have better range than a lot of options. I just feel like mario players play to their tool kit.
Nothing tilts me more than the tier list. I get it with characters like Ganon and Doc Mario because their recoveries are so bad / exploitable, but otherwise who gets to say who is low tier or not? What is the tier list based on? Is it some sort of data like frame data or something? TL:DR; To me, every character is considered average until some great player starts winning tournaments with them. Then, they are considered A or S tier. If the tier list is based on data, I'd like to know what data. If it's tournament win data, then it's circular -- a great player picks the character and everyone sees them win, therefore they are moved up the tier list. But then it's only the characters the best players are playing. If no great player picks them up, characters will be stuck in the B/C/D tier forever. In an alternate universe, MKLeo is a Chrom main and winning majors consistently and beating other top professionals with Chrom on a regular basis. So we would have to rate Chrom S tier, right? Where was Yoshi ranked in Melee before aMSa? Where was Sonic ranked before Sonix? To me, it's all about picking YOUR favorite character and playing them to the highest level possible. It's the player that brings attention to the character and moves them up the list. The tier list is for haters. Don't tell me my character is bad. Every character has strengths and weaknesses. I'd bet the farm that 99.9% of people who subscribe to the tier list would get absolutely bodied playing their "S tier" character against Skyjay or Raito. Edit: perhaps the most glaring example is the fact that Lucina is A+ and Marth is B-. Why? They are literally the same exact character minus the tipper mechanic. Did someone, somewhere, decide that the tipper mechanic makes Marth worse? Is it a mathematical truth like 2+2=4 that tipper makes Marth strictly inferior? It's an obvious give/take or risk/reward mechanic. Like I just don't get it. Actually just for haters.
Man look at that stage, seeing this in-person would be incredible
As a Mario player, the feeling of accidentally landing on stage instead of grabbing ledge with upB and losing because of it, worst feeling. Wizzy knew it was ggs. Great game otherwise! Always learn something new watching Wizzy
Why does it feel like just a mario thing, just feels like it doesn't snap to ledge sometimes
@@colmharrison4191 right at first I thought it was because I was holding up or towards the ledge. But it doesn't seem to make a difference
A player at this level shouldnt make this kind of mistakes imho
@@sionbarzad5371everybody makes mistakes regardless of player level. That’s why there’s always a winner and a loser for these competitions.
Saw it live! Excellent top 8! Congratulations Shadic!
Whizzy’s reserved play style puts him right at the range corrin wants to play. He should’ve played more agro rush down. He did very well the few time he turned it on.
What's agro rush down
@@torch7933 more aggressive rushdown. Essentially a more in your face play style where you aren’t giving the opponent room to react or respond to your frame data. Like a kurama esque or any sheik player.
@@tendo_no_entiendoyeah but cotton is the perfect character to counter that strat, that’s why she been doing so well in the meta recently, people like shadick and neo perfected there play around that. That’s why is such a matchup check for too players when they play them. You wouldn’t think corrin would excel at that at first glance because she is slow but her buttons and kit help her with that. And both neo and shadick using her side b for movement spices up her options just a lil more.
@@tendo_no_entiendoBut Kurama lose to SHADIC. So maybe the correct strategy is just don't play Mario against Corrin? But I don't think Joker or Yoshi is a good answer since SHADIC beat MKLEO and Danbi as well!!!
@@riqua27 lol, certainly. But if he found success with his main by playing a different game plan he should continue doing that until either the opponent adapts or he wins. I think it’s more a tactical failing than a MU.
This commentary was great
Another CorWIN!
Let's go Shadic!!! 🔥
I’m so happy to finally be able to watch a good Corrin
That's Shadic for ya, congratulations!
15:20 I screamed a little when Mario didn’t snap to ledge 💀 so sad
Wizzy getting a good result? Is this 2019-2020?
Holy hell a Corrin winning a major? What is this SSB4?
Edit : guys I'm happy Shadic won and can show that Corrin is still viable. My main in Smash 4 and my best character still
Not a major
@@kava3957 oops well regardless still big considering no one plays Corrin lol
@@ChemyChemNeo and LY said Hi!!!
@@ChemyChemhuh
@@ChemyChemto be fair there have been a lot more notable corrins recently so i dont think that statement is quite true anymore lolz
Brown mario wasnt the grey one. It was the purple mario skin but because one of them was color blind they thought it was brown. That is what my friend explained to me so if he is wrong then sorry.
0:24 for timestamp
A regional that looks like a major
Wizzy may not always win but he certainly gets style points
:25 for anyone womdering, beefy smash dudes theorized that the grey mario skin is actually what used tk be the brown mario skin. Since in smash 64 mario had no grey option and instead had a brown one. Then through melee and brawl it progressivley got darker
LETS GO SHADIC! THATS OUR GOAT!
Shadic is amazing
Corrin wins? GOOD!!
LETS GO WIZZYYYYY
Marioss should look at the cape option more not only does ot have better range than a lot of options. I just feel like mario players play to their tool kit.
Too bad the prize pot sucked for this tournament, the stage is always cooler when it has top talent on it. Maybe next year!
LFG SHADICCCC
Mario vs Corrin's aerials...not a fair fight lol.
Let’s Go Shadic 🔥🔥🔥
Nothing tilts me more than the tier list. I get it with characters like Ganon and Doc Mario because their recoveries are so bad / exploitable, but otherwise who gets to say who is low tier or not? What is the tier list based on? Is it some sort of data like frame data or something?
TL:DR;
To me, every character is considered average until some great player starts winning tournaments with them. Then, they are considered A or S tier.
If the tier list is based on data, I'd like to know what data. If it's tournament win data, then it's circular -- a great player picks the character and everyone sees them win, therefore they are moved up the tier list. But then it's only the characters the best players are playing. If no great player picks them up, characters will be stuck in the B/C/D tier forever.
In an alternate universe, MKLeo is a Chrom main and winning majors consistently and beating other top professionals with Chrom on a regular basis. So we would have to rate Chrom S tier, right? Where was Yoshi ranked in Melee before aMSa? Where was Sonic ranked before Sonix?
To me, it's all about picking YOUR favorite character and playing them to the highest level possible. It's the player that brings attention to the character and moves them up the list.
The tier list is for haters. Don't tell me my character is bad. Every character has strengths and weaknesses. I'd bet the farm that 99.9% of people who subscribe to the tier list would get absolutely bodied playing their "S tier" character against Skyjay or Raito.
Edit: perhaps the most glaring example is the fact that Lucina is A+ and Marth is B-. Why? They are literally the same exact character minus the tipper mechanic. Did someone, somewhere, decide that the tipper mechanic makes Marth worse? Is it a mathematical truth like 2+2=4 that tipper makes Marth strictly inferior? It's an obvious give/take or risk/reward mechanic. Like I just don't get it. Actually just for haters.
Love wizzy taking Ls 🎉
wizzy must have gotten pretty good bracket luck.
He beat muteace, went through multiple intense game 5 sets, and beat rob players, which is a matchup that he struggles at. Smh