Were you riding my bike around in New York again? 😂 😂 😂 I just had to make the joke. I just ordered this exact bike from your shop in Brooklyn this past weekend with help from Matchmaker Basheir Babikir(Nice guy with professional service. 😊). I Loved ❤️ seeing your review of this bike, she is a beauty and yesterday I got word that she is in Massachusetts and ready for me to pick up at my local freight company. I have bought two bikes from you guys in the past and couldn’t be more happy with the experience I received. Thank you Chris and your Staff for all you do for the electric bike community, you guys Rock! 😊
Coil springs make the most sense for commuters really. They're not mountain bikes and you're not jumping off of huge drops where air springs can play out their strengths, instead you'll want something that absorbs small bumps well and is low maintenance, and that's exactly what coil springs are.
I agree. I had a bike with air suspension forks made by Marzocchi. Eventually they started leaking so I went to get them repaired thinking it would be simple job of replacing leaky seals. However the very nice bike repair man told me that they would have to send the forks off to Marzocchi and then told me how much it would cost and asked me if I wouldn't just prefer to buy some new cheaper forks. 😏 Just as well I ended up doing nothing because my bike was stolen a few weeks later. Anyway I've have had no serious issues with any spring loaded forks and pretty much zero maintenance.
Today, I was going to buy this bike, but after the test ride, I compared it to the Ultimate T10+. Although the C380+ was quiet, and smooth; it seemed lacking in handling, and responsiveness compared to the T10+. I took the T10+ home with me, because it was so much more fun. That’s not to take away from the other bike, which does everything well, and probably will have less maintenance. It just depends on what you’re looking for - both are great bikes.
Gotta love this guy cuz his "Super excited about this bike" face and his "OMG you discovered the burial ground under my house" face are pretty much the same face.
And the AXA lock goes with a good chain with which you can attach your bike to a tree, lamppost, or bike rack. The chain is 'jackplugged' into the AXA lock, so only one key needed.
Better than the owners manual! I have this bike. It’s great. Turbo mode really depletes the battery fast without adding much speed. Easy to pedal without assist to 12-14 mph. Exceptionally well designed and finished.
Mine’s on the way. I will be upgrading the Bosch display to the Nyon, different pedals, and a suspension seat post. I test rode the Ultimate T10+ and liked it, but I think the hub version will be easier to maintain and nicer in the long term.
Wow, this might be my favorite e-bike choice so far. I bought the Lectric XP to replace my car, save money, and save for one of these really nice e-bikes. And I had bought the Lectric XP specifically for it's folding aspect and its 28 MPH max speed. It turns out the folding aspect isn't so useful to me after all. I tried taking it on a bus with me and this thing is still massive when folded. It's also heavy. I had to sit in the handicap seating area of the bus, and luckily there was only one other person who needed that area. I think that this Gazelle e-bike would be an excellent main bike for the Seattle area where I live, and I could either get a super cheap road bike for loading onto bus bike racks when I need to, or a non-electric folding bike that is lighter, but it would still suck riding back up to the top of this big hill I live on without the electric assist. I also like the high-step of this Gazelle bike. Now that I've experienced a low-step or step-thru on my Lectric XP, I can say that I miss having the opportunity for crossbar packs for extra storage. With a high-step, I can still step through the bike just fine--I'm flexible enough to step over even a flat crossbar if I tried. A high-step seems like a perfect compromise to me.
I just purchased used a C380 plus high step with 93 miles on it from Pro Closet in Colorado. $3,099.99 add sales tax and shipping the final cost was $3,417.73. A mid step would have been nice but with tax new would set me back just over $5,000. I paid $5,000 out-the-door for my first 2 year old Toyota in 1984. The prices are nuts. It is a nice bike but even my $1,600 mark down over new seems too much. I think the bike new is worth $2,800.
I just got one of these and while I love it, the rack is terrible and meant to force a person to buy Gazelle's bags, which aren't waterproof. As someone who rides 7 days a week in the Pacific Northwest, are there any waterproof paniers you know of which will achieve three points of contact while hooking over these absurdly shaped, large bars? If I have to get their MiK rack adapter, is there a MiK bag you sell that is all weather without needed a rain cover?
Nice bike (that had some pretty hard reviewing if you the damage all around) As for "sporty" vs "upright" position: I'm waiting to make switch towards upright, because my current bike (with spring seatpost) is still giving me troubles with the spine, and think the other position is help to avoid.
My only concern with this bike is the lack of a rear suspension. Does the seat post suspension do an adequate job of dealing with pot holes, curbs, and modest trail riding? Thank you.
It is not an off road bike. The tires are skinny. I replaced the seat with our old Specialized Roll “cup” seat. I would invest in a spring loaded cup seat from Specialized before investing in a spring loaded seat post.
Seems quite odd they they sell it without a horn in america (and a mirror but that is easier to add yourself), pedestrians will fail to hear my bell when I'm right behind them, let alone someone in a car ahead of you when you're going 28mph!
Those Schwalbe tires can go through glass and won't puncture. Just check for little sharp stones and glass once a week and remove them. If you leave them they might slowly eat through the tire.
So "Walk-Assist" doesn't actually power the bike forward? I've seen that it can be set for "1 to 3 mph" and was thinking it would help slowly push the bike up the stairs to my 3rd floor apartment. No?
After a lot of comparing bikes, I am satisfied with what I chose. That being said, if this one had been available when choosing, I would have gotten it instead. At 74 yrs old, I`ll probably stay with what I have now. Oh well!
I have a 35 or so year old gazelle that somehow made it to the United States, it rides like new, so in terms of durability, gazelle has passed the test
Nice bike. ....no..... REALLY nice bike. Quick question...anyone out there know is there such a thing as a FS BELT DRIVE FAT EBIKE..... OR EVEN A HARD TAIL?
I just purchased c380 plus used high step large frame (57 cm) from Pro Closet in Colorado with 93 miles for $3,099.99. Add tax, shipping $3,419.73 I had to add pedals and have it reprogrammed so I could turn the lights off. EU requires lights for the 28 mph bikes.
@@fogart7613 If this bike can reach 28mph 45km/h it has to be on the road, with the cars, and I don't like that as a car driver or a cyclist. And 70% of the protected bike lanes in NL are not build for this speed. But I would buy it if they can downgrade it to 15mph. and if there is a frame for 6ft.4 :-)
You can get 28mph ebikes like this legally in europe but they are treated like mopeds (same top speed, actually), so they need a horn, mirrors, brake light and license plate with insurance.
I could do without that thanks. I only use bicycle transport an odd time do to dangerous motorist's. Car's and bus's overtake on bicycle lanes where I live.
Were you riding my bike around in New York again? 😂 😂 😂 I just had to make the joke. I just ordered this exact bike from your shop in Brooklyn this past weekend with help from Matchmaker Basheir Babikir(Nice guy with professional service. 😊). I Loved ❤️ seeing your review of this bike, she is a beauty and yesterday I got word that she is in Massachusetts and ready for me to pick up at my local freight company. I have bought two bikes from you guys in the past and couldn’t be more happy with the experience I received. Thank you Chris and your Staff for all you do for the electric bike community, you guys Rock! 😊
This is the bike I have been thinking of upgrading to. Great timing.
Coil springs make the most sense for commuters really. They're not mountain bikes and you're not jumping off of huge drops where air springs can play out their strengths, instead you'll want something that absorbs small bumps well and is low maintenance, and that's exactly what coil springs are.
I agree. I had a bike with air suspension forks made by Marzocchi. Eventually they started leaking so I went to get them repaired thinking it would be simple job of replacing leaky seals. However the very nice bike repair man told me that they would have to send the forks off to Marzocchi and then told me how much it would cost and asked me if I wouldn't just prefer to buy some new cheaper forks. 😏
Just as well I ended up doing nothing because my bike was stolen a few weeks later.
Anyway I've have had no serious issues with any spring loaded forks and pretty much zero maintenance.
@@LairdDavidsonles 🎉rani fader 🎉
Ebikes have evolved so beautifully in a short time. I love riding so.
Today, I was going to buy this bike, but after the test ride, I compared it to the Ultimate T10+. Although the C380+ was quiet, and smooth; it seemed lacking in handling, and responsiveness compared to the T10+. I took the T10+ home with me, because it was so much more fun. That’s not to take away from the other bike, which does everything well, and probably will have less maintenance. It just depends on what you’re looking for - both are great bikes.
Gazelle always makes bikes that are pleasing to the eye.
I bought one because of reviews like yours .👍
Shifting without moving is handy in dense traffic, where you sometimes have to (almost) stop unexpectedly. Click back and take off again.
Thanks for the video. Waiting on delivery for the C380+.
Gotta love this guy cuz his "Super excited about this bike" face and his "OMG you discovered the burial ground under my house" face are pretty much the same face.
Your videos are spot on with info, opinions, specs and you’ve even ‘got jokes’! 🔌 🚴 ☺️
7:04 We really need a new camera scary moment 😱 😆
A well rounded review of what seems to be a well rounded daily commuter ebike
In the netherlands you get 2 keys with your bike, and you need both for the insurrance.
So don't loose one.
And the AXA lock goes with a good chain with which you can attach your bike to a tree, lamppost, or bike rack.
The chain is 'jackplugged' into the AXA lock, so only one key needed.
Definitely what I need ! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice bike. Good review. Thanks. For me this bike and the Serial 1 Rush Speed are the 2 best Class 3 commuter bikes available right now.
Thanks, great review
Best thing about this is the value!!
Better than the owners manual! I have this bike. It’s great. Turbo mode really depletes the battery fast without adding much speed. Easy to pedal without assist to 12-14 mph. Exceptionally well designed and finished.
Very nice bike, I currently ride a Cube Touring, and intend to upgrade to a belt drive.
Thanks for the video and the info, Clffe.
Mine’s on the way. I will be upgrading the Bosch display to the Nyon, different pedals, and a suspension seat post.
I test rode the Ultimate T10+ and liked it, but I think the hub version will be easier to maintain and nicer in the long term.
Any issues with your C380?
The high step version can mount a Powerpack 400/500 in addition to the integrated one but I haven't seen it. I want to know if it locks to the frame.
Wow, this might be my favorite e-bike choice so far. I bought the Lectric XP to replace my car, save money, and save for one of these really nice e-bikes. And I had bought the Lectric XP specifically for it's folding aspect and its 28 MPH max speed. It turns out the folding aspect isn't so useful to me after all. I tried taking it on a bus with me and this thing is still massive when folded. It's also heavy. I had to sit in the handicap seating area of the bus, and luckily there was only one other person who needed that area.
I think that this Gazelle e-bike would be an excellent main bike for the Seattle area where I live, and I could either get a super cheap road bike for loading onto bus bike racks when I need to, or a non-electric folding bike that is lighter, but it would still suck riding back up to the top of this big hill I live on without the electric assist.
I also like the high-step of this Gazelle bike. Now that I've experienced a low-step or step-thru on my Lectric XP, I can say that I miss having the opportunity for crossbar packs for extra storage. With a high-step, I can still step through the bike just fine--I'm flexible enough to step over even a flat crossbar if I tried. A high-step seems like a perfect compromise to me.
I love this bike. I put like 150mi on it in like the first weekend.
i bought the ultimate c8 and and a speedbox a few months ago because i couldnt wait, but i so wish i had the c380+ instead
So this is a class 3 e-bike? Equivalent to a speed pedelec in Europe?
I just purchased used a C380 plus high step with 93 miles on it from Pro Closet in Colorado.
$3,099.99 add sales tax and shipping the final cost was $3,417.73.
A mid step would have been nice but with tax new would set me back just over $5,000.
I paid $5,000 out-the-door for my first 2 year old Toyota in 1984.
The prices are nuts. It is a nice bike but even my $1,600 mark down over new seems too much.
I think the bike new is worth $2,800.
How about setting up a Halloween costume bike ride?
I just got one of these and while I love it, the rack is terrible and meant to force a person to buy Gazelle's bags, which aren't waterproof. As someone who rides 7 days a week in the Pacific Northwest, are there any waterproof paniers you know of which will achieve three points of contact while hooking over these absurdly shaped, large bars? If I have to get their MiK rack adapter, is there a MiK bag you sell that is all weather without needed a rain cover?
Nice bike (that had some pretty hard reviewing if you the damage all around)
As for "sporty" vs "upright" position: I'm waiting to make switch towards upright, because my current bike (with spring seatpost) is still giving me troubles with the spine, and think the other position is help to avoid.
My only concern with this bike is the lack of a rear suspension. Does the seat post suspension do an adequate job of dealing with pot holes, curbs, and modest trail riding? Thank you.
It is not an off road bike. The tires are skinny.
I replaced the seat with our old Specialized Roll “cup” seat.
I would invest in a spring loaded cup seat from Specialized before investing in a spring loaded seat post.
I added a Kinetic Seatpost to my T10+ and I love it!!!
What type of shoes you wearing
Seems quite odd they they sell it without a horn in america (and a mirror but that is easier to add yourself), pedestrians will fail to hear my bell when I'm right behind them, let alone someone in a car ahead of you when you're going 28mph!
Can you fit the 625 battery? And what’s the warranty? I cannot find the info on their website.
This isn’t able to fit a 625 and it has a 2 year warranty
Warranty’s:
frame 10 years
fork 5 years
paint 5 years
other parts 2 years
battery 2 years
motor 2 years
display 2 years
One day we will have belt driven and solid tires. So we don't have to worry about getting a flat, fixing a flat and maintaining the chain.
Those Schwalbe tires can go through glass and won't puncture. Just check for little sharp stones and glass once a week and remove them. If you leave them they might slowly eat through the tire.
So "Walk-Assist" doesn't actually power the bike forward? I've seen that it can be set for "1 to 3 mph" and was thinking it would help slowly push the bike up the stairs to my 3rd floor apartment. No?
it does push the bike forward. it spins the motor and cranks at a pretty slow pace, perfect for things like going up stairs
Walk assist is great for going up stairs. Going up is easier then going down stairs with walk assist.
I just chose one of these for my first e bike.
Did you have a nice time in Germany? Good trip back?
But an Uphill Load Test?
Looks nice in the red color
the Ultimate C380+ only comes in grey. The red one is the Ultimate T10+. Essentially same bike however the 380+ has enviolo hub and Gates Belt Drive.
I’ve seen the grey and red both in person. The grey has a very nice classy look I think.
After a lot of comparing bikes, I am satisfied with what I chose. That being said, if this one had been available when choosing, I would have gotten it instead. At 74 yrs old, I`ll probably stay with what I have now. Oh well!
Thanks so much for watching!
If you're interested in learning more about this bike, check out the link in the video description. :)
killer bike
Go Dutch!
I have a 35 or so year old gazelle that somehow made it to the United States, it rides like new, so in terms of durability, gazelle has passed the test
Nice bike. ....no..... REALLY nice bike. Quick question...anyone out there know is there such a thing as a FS BELT DRIVE FAT EBIKE..... OR EVEN A HARD TAIL?
Um dieses Fahrrad hier in Marokko zu bekommen, muss man 100 Jahre arbeiten, um es zu kaufen🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
Can you get an e14 Rohloff on this bike?
Not an option from Gazelle.
😊
Nice bike but out of my price range!
I have set a limit of $2200 for myself.
"Belt drives are becoming ever more popular..." == good luck finding more than 7 e-bikes with belt drive in 2022
Here in Europe the belt drive is becoming very popular
مشاء الله
How much? Over $4,000 ...
$4749 US dollars.
I just purchased c380 plus used high step large frame (57 cm) from Pro Closet in Colorado with 93 miles for $3,099.99.
Add tax, shipping $3,419.73
I had to add pedals and have it reprogrammed so I could turn the lights off. EU requires lights for the 28 mph bikes.
Gazelle Intensity
This video would work so much better with metric units.
In 'Merica we don't use metric and we don't want to learn new things!
I have 28" wheels on my Dutch Gazelle and a 56 cm frame. 😛
It would probably be restricted to 15mph in the nanny state I am living in 😂
25km/h is fast enough for a commuter bike
@@JacobBax I like to go as fast as I can on a bicycle
@@fogart7613 If this bike can reach 28mph 45km/h it has to be on the road, with the cars, and I don't like that as a car driver or a cyclist.
And 70% of the protected bike lanes in NL are not build for this speed.
But I would buy it if they can downgrade it to 15mph. and if there is a frame for 6ft.4 :-)
You can get 28mph ebikes like this legally in europe but they are treated like mopeds (same top speed, actually), so they need a horn, mirrors, brake light and license plate with insurance.
I could do without that thanks.
I only use bicycle transport an odd time do to dangerous motorist's. Car's and bus's overtake on bicycle lanes where I live.
King ...not Queen
Sooo expensive!
early
OVER PRICED.