KDE Dev Reacts to The Linux Experiment's Review of KDE Plasma
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- Regarding the lag: as I say in the video, I switched to OBS but that means my computer is not able to live encode everything, thus the technical issues. Sorry about that, and I've bought a new laptop to address it!
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Hi everyone! I'm receiving a lot of very kind messages and tips; I totally did not expect so much good feedback and I'm so happy! You are really giving me motivation to keep going! Love you all
It's because you're so courteous and reasonable Niccolò. And, like KDE, goodlooking.
Remember to use more descriptive names for apps.
You are doing gods work!
dall ca so tarall
Sometimes I forget that KDE is basically individual volunteers working on their own piece in their free time. This makes me respect the team even more.
This KDE developer handles criticism better than KDE fans handle criticism.
The kde devs handle critism better then gnome devs handle simple bug fixes request
"Oh, your icon won't display because we don't follow a standard when it literally would cost us nothing to have fallback icons? Oh no! Anyways..."
I've not watched the video yet, but I would like to use this opportunity to sincerely thank you and all of the KDE team for all of your work. Your desktop environment is a complete marvel and it wouldn't feel right to not even express my gratitude after having been using it for 6 months. I'm deeply thankful for all you have done.
Started with linux not even that long ago and tried lots of deskops but KDE is by far my favorite.
This guy's open mind makes me want to switch to KDE Plasma purely for ideology, to support the project. All Devs should be more like this. I am looking at you GNOME.
If that makes you happy, Niccolo: my wife uses Manjaro KDE with the default dark Breeze theme. And she is quite happy with it. :)
I'm a 15 year Linux user and I still use breeze dark on Arch, just with my own dark background. I just want something that works, doesn't burn my eyes out and doesn't waste a lot of screen space so that I can get on with using the system.
I'm also not really a fan of floating docks etc because buttons are easier to click on if they go right to the edge, as you can't go past them.
Niccolo will probably hate me for this; I use a riced version of KDE Neon with the Lightly widget style, Inter as the global font, a custom dark colour scheme, Fluent icon theme (modified) and a custom Latte Dock layout which is almost the same as the default KDE panel. Please don't hurt me... D:
@@georgehelyar I whole heartedly agree. About what you said about Fitts Law, Latte dock redirects the input from the corners into the relevant parts inside the panel, so you would never have any problem you don't have with panels in Latte, even if floating. ( Although I prefer not to use Latte, because sometimes I need that resources )
Trying out KDE Neon, just to keep track of it's growth, ya. Breeze Dark is really nice.
Been using Plasma uninterruptedly for about 3 years with the default Breeze theme and its just awesome seeing all the progress being made on design and UX field.
Keep up the good work! Greetings 🇵🇹🇵🇹
I tried KDE 10-15 years ago and didn't like it, so I stayed with gnome. I decided to try KDE again a few years back and fell in love with it. You guys did a great job with it. I can't find anything to complain about. I love the customization. I love KDE Connect. Everything is really good. Keep up the great work!
How amazing is that we get internal insights from a kde dev? Thanks sir!
I love you take the criticism on board and try to improve your software.
It's sad that a lot of people give meaningless criticism like saying it's ugly or horrible without explaining why., this his review was very fair, I have watched a few of his videos and it seems they always are.
I found your video very interesting, a good insight into how to give good feed back to a developer.
The devs are good. It's the community that's hard to deal with. Most of the users of Plasma are Arch users. Maybe that's why? When someone say Plasma could be more minimal, the toxic fans would just say "Go use GNOME or something, KDE is not for you". Which kinda leaves people salty. So most users either avoid the community and giving feedback or just say it's bad and run for their life.
I love KDE. Please add USB format option in dolphin and mount .iso file option. So we dont need to install separate services for it. 😃
As far as mounting the ISO: maybe there's been an update, but I can just right-click and mount the ISO, without having installed separate services...
I love how KDE can customize a lot more than GNOME. Thank you for developing KDE until this time.
Perhaps it's better to rethink "categories" in settings as "tags", so that certain settings can appear in multiple "tags"? As for discoverability of features, KDE apps can do like Vivaldi and present preconfigured application UI layouts (e.g. minimalist -> light -> standard -> productive -> poweruser -> overkill) to hint to users what advanced features are available.
I like your idea IMO is should be minimalist -> standard -> poweruser
@@epicoddgamer2900 I second this idea!
I love KDE, thank you for so much for all the work you do and for helping create one of the most customizable DEs ever!
Big respect to all of you. Amazing work
Although I am a GNOME fan (consistency). KDE is great for customization.. Hope they share their superpowers..
Great job Niccolò, Keep it up.
I just recently come around to your channel, and I must say that I really like the videos that you do as it's a good insight into KDE and the development behind it.
I have been using KDE myself since around 2004ish back with Slackware, and it's always been the one desktop environment that I have loved the most, yet used the least for whatever reason. I'd really like to contribute to the project in some way (except financially because i'm poor) but I have never found the right way that I could.
The things I love about KDE Plasma are the looks, since plasma's release I think the look of KDE is probably one of the best in class for linux environments at the moment and is probably one of the most stable and customisable, which is one of the reasons I yearn for a good experience with it. I love most of the applications (I have my issues with Dolphin, but it is what it is) and I really genuinely do wish I could use it as my primary desktop environment.
Some of the things that I wish it had, or that it does have that would make it easier to use:
1.1) Ability to easily and quickly swap between different desktop layouts. Maybe this is a thing that can be done, but I really want to be able to try out a "Mac style" layout but the problem with editing it to do such, it doesn't allow you to easily go back and you could end up with a broken and / or non default desktop. The only way I have the ability to go back was to delete my KDE folder in my profile.
1.2) Add more "Mac OS" style features. You can achieve some of this with Plasma addons but it would be nice if it didn't rely on a 3rd party to get some basic desktop functionality available. Ideally it would be nice is there was a way to have a basic "Mac OSX layout" or a "Windows 11 Layout" and just be able to swap all of the widgets and items around so that it has a similar functionality. This would make it trivial for users of those other OSes to be able to navigate KDE, and allow those of us that go between, ability to keep the desktop fresh while able to return if need be.
2) An OS like KDE Neon, but based on a non LTS version of Ubuntu. Currently KDE Neon is based on LTS Ubuntu and I have to choose whether I want an up to date KDE, or an up to date rest of the system. The other alternatives are Manjaro or OpenSUSE, but I have had poor experiences with them and I prefer Apt distros.
3) This one I know requites testing, but fixing some of the inexplicable bugs, or have increased interaction with the community. On a previous install one of the things that would constantly happen is that the "check for updates" feature of the plasma ui wouldn't say there were updates unless I manually open discover and check for updates that way.
All in all, I love KDE and I think you guys do amazing work, I just hope I can find a solution that allows me to have a refined user experience for KDE along with a good experience for everything else. :)
I've tried quite a few other themes, some of them pretty wild, most of them good. But somehow, Breeze Dark is the one I always return to - straightforward, clear, complete. Just the right mix of modern looks and classical simplicity.
Thank you for all your hard work! Any improvements in one DE is a potential improvement for all.
KDE is my go-to desktop for any distro, I'm currently using it on Arch. The wayland-plasma-session implementation has matured to the point of being daily drivable. But as a laptop user, I'd love to see two improvements to go along with wayland integration.
1. the synaptics touchpad driver that was used before libinput is built on xorg. I use this driver because it lets me autodisable the touchpad when an external mouse is connected. This feature is not available on libinput as far as I know. Maybe there needs to be a port of the xorg synaptics driver to wayland, maybe libinput needs to include the feature, or maybe a driver needs to be written from the ground up.
2. I like using VNC when I'm away from my laptop. Krfb has (recently, I think) added support for wayland using pipewire, but the performance isn't good at all. Krfb needs to include more granular settings and, in my opinion, needs to be in feature-parity with X11VNC.
Once these issues are fixed, I will gladly run wayland as default. Other than that, I love KDE to bits.
Same
Too bad SimpleScreenRecorder doesn't work on wayland so I just use X11. Whats nice is that we can have both and they're just 1 logoff + 1 login away
So awesome to hear directly from one of the Devs, thanks for sharing!
Ciao Niccolò! Mi piace molto i tuoi video, anche se non uso Plasma oggi.
Love the simplicity and your sincerity. Feels like hearing a friend talk.
Cheers from Brazil!
Thanks for all your hard work 👏👏👏
Thanks for your work in KDE, it's been my preferred desktop environment for 10 years.
I distro/DE hopped a lot at the beginning (like most new Linux users). I landed on KDE Plasma and fell in love with it almost instantly! As it has evolved over the years, the only time I was ever feeling really disappointed was when the "scroll on desktop to switch virtual desktops" feature was either removed or broken. Well, it's back and I have nothing but the most respect for the team behind it.
Side note: I have been previewing some other distros/DE in VM, just to see what things look and feel like outside of KDE. Many are nice! None can compare to KDE (Manjaro), for me.
Thank you so much for your amazing work! I subscribed and I will look you up on Patreon.
Wait, you're the one who made Breeze? Thank you for it, I've been using the Twilight variety since coming back to KDE, it's solid, readable, and I like it a lot. Keep up the good work! 👍
The one bit I don't like is the hamburger menus, in honesty. They belong on mobile, as a necessary measure to conserve screen real estate - but where there is screen real estate to be used, I think it should be avoided. They add an extra step to the wanted setting, and are, very subjectively, counterintuitive to me on desktop.
Baby wogue had me rolling. Thank you for making this video
I have tried alot of Linux distros.....I always find myself coming back to KDE Plasma. I love it.
Design is all about choices, there is no right or wrong answers, some people don't like default themes and some do, Some don't even care and they use their system for years without even changing wallpaper
I actually never change wallpapers lol
Love running KDE Debian on a Hp mini 1000 from 2008. Averages around 400mb ram at idle.
Currently installing KDE Debian on a 2004 compaq with only 1gb of ram, wish me luck! Keep up the great work!
I love KDE. Thank you so much for developing it.
Aspetta... Sei italiano?😮
Non pensavo ci fossero Italiani che lavorassero su kde, vi sono grato❤️
Thank you for this video and for your work on KDE. I use this desktop since KDE 3.5. Even if the version 4 had a lot of bugs, I stayed on KDE. Plasma is wonderful!
I also watch Nick's videos, it's a very good channel (and he's french like me 😉).
Long life to KDE and to your channel!
I'm very happy with the default theme, to me it's something that is very pleasing right out of the box.
You're right. I use Lightly for plasma style instead of Breeze for the reasons said by Nick. I also like Oxygen for the 3D-like buttons like it was in Windows and Mac OS in the past.
you guys made the best DE ever, thanks for that, every day i use KDE i love it even more, it has freedom unlike some other DEs cof cof gnome
Honestly, I'm more of a Gnome/Cinnamon guy, but I can say KDE is beautiful and powerful. We, as Linux users, have the best desktops to choice 👌👌
I think you’re Italian, I feel it. Hi I’m Marco from piacenza, I like so much the way you explain things…thumbs up!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I am, sono di Genova! :D
I will summarize my experience as follows:
Pros of KDE: You can customize EVERYTHING!
Cons of KDE: You can customize EVERYTHING!
KDE is fun for those who see their system as a kit car, a project that never ends and must be constantly maintained and tweaked. Unfortunately, KDE is not really set up for fire-and-forget or appliance like approaches to using a computer, which i think that's where GNOME, with all their shortcomings and resource bloat, ends up succeeding.
Why would "you can" be a con? I literally only set a theme and thats it. I'm not changing absolutely anything about it as I find it good enough. So I really don't understand why that would be a con.
I mean idk maybe I'm too technical and don't understand the "appliance like aproaches to using a computer" part of the coment
You can use Plasma as a fire and forget appliance. It is what i do. I install Plasma and then never change anything, not even the wallpaper.
GNOME can also be customized with extensions as well. Does that make it unusable?
I am in love with KDE, I am illustrator and use this OS since 2020. Love Dolphin, customization, gwenview, Krita, skanlite, KDE Connect! (my god), Ktorrent, etc. Grettings from Buenos Aires!
KDE user for 8 years. Thanks for a solid customizable experience. (I have a pretty weird setup where I hide all window decorations and only close/manipulate windows by shortcuts or rarely by using a modifier key and a mouse) so the fact it lets me do that is pretty cool. I'm sort of half way between a tiling and free floating windowing system.
The multi monitor experience has come a long way in the years I have been using it. The only thing I am really feeling like I'm missing in KDE is the last time I tried to use Wayland... It was not great. Windows didn't seem to remember their last position and size from before they were closed was the thing I noticed most. I would really like to see KDE evolve past Xorg, but I don't even know if the problem is Wayland or Kwin and how it interacts with Wayland.
Two of my favourite web video creators in one web video 👍
I personally prefer GNOME better but I can't express how much I like KDE developers and community, is just so much more friendly and open minded in general!
Yea. Gnome I do really like the look and feel but gnome developers are insufferable in most instances ... it’s like dealing with environmentalists in California.
im out there using breeze for you. i really like it!
I used KDE abotu 20 years ago and loved it. With the introduction of KDE4 and Plasma, I soon moved away and settled between Cinnamon and some other desktops. After discussing with a colleague I recently tried out KDE plasma 5.24 on my old laptop and after some initial quirks I loved it. It is surprisingly light and can be customized to what I am comfortable use to be productive. Looking forward to putting it on my new laptop once that arrives! Really great job, very glad I returned to KDE after so long!
Danke!
*Thank you all the KDE devs i was using xfce before , after i tried kde i just cant go back.*
*Specially the widgets and the settings where i can change my display manager themes etc..* *Thank you very much.*
Switched to Linux after decades of being a windows user and tried quite a few DEs so far, I find KDE the best as for both Beginner/Intermediate users to Linux.
You guys did and are still doing an amazing job with KDE. Kudos and Go forward :)
Cheers.
❤KDE
Thank you so much for all the efforts you guys put to make such an awesome DE .
One request please allow dolphin to run as admin . That's the one place dolphin lags.
We get asked this a lot! It's very hard and there's a lot of discussion around it. Don't worry, we did not forget about it :-)
@@niccoloveslinux thank you for the reply 🙂
You can do that yourself, but it's unstable and might not work.
I wonder if the settings panel would benefit from the application of the concept you often talk about in some other videos of yours: sensible defaults. but in this case defaults about what is shown by default in the panel itself. then an advanced user could "dial up" the complexity with a slider or something. Anyway great vids, subbed and sent you some computer moneys. ciao!
Great video! I'm sure with all the constructive criticism you'll keep on making KDE better for us.
Yes, that system settings really need some organizing and adding strings… Being lost in it for some many times.
Also, this is a really good example of how devs should view people's reactions.
Hallo. I do appreciate kde team work cause use plasma and some default kde apps daily. Like okular,what I prefer over all others pdf and other readers now. And when it appeared plasma 5.24 with new theaming and menu I was amazed. I finally got app menu that I want. But have one thought on it. It is a bit annoying to always have switch categories on hower. It would be great to have ability to change app categories by clicking.
Bud, you are great.
Hey man, I will definitely try KDE again in the future, I tried it as my first Linux system and ended up bricking it but now I have a year of experience in Ubuntu and the terminal and some quite intermediate level things I reckon my next OS will be KDE for sure. I may start with Kubuntu unless people can suggest something more suitable.
Love You being Italian!! Prouddddddd
Plasma is a wonderful environment and I would like to thank all the developers that work on it. Thank you, I appreciate your hard work. I love all the options!!!
I like the options for titlebars that breeze enhanced Sierra give. if you don’t use components that are all designed to fit together those icons in the titlebar are not adjustable. And I just don’t like the Apple-like look that many themes give.
Lightly is cool, too.
I absolutely love KDE... On my laptop...
On my multi monitor desktop it's a really weird experience where the same wallpaper for all monitors is a real hassle to do(at least for a new user perspective).
Applications tend to bounce around and widgets on one screen gets messed up every time the monitor goes to sleep.
However if you have a one monitor setup, it's fantastic.
This might work the way I want it in KDE Neon, I have not tried that distro yet.
I'm on Pop!_OS at my desktop, simply because Nvidia drivers worked right out of the box and it's given me zero stress with my multi monitor setup as well.
I know that the multi monitor thing is more a X11 problem and not a KDE problem and that might be solved by switching to wayland, and I might do that in the future.
A nice out of the box solution would be great for new users though.
Keep up the good work with KDE and your channel, I'm looking forward to seeing the development in the future, it's come a very long way from my experience with it way back on SuSE linux for PPC on my PowerBook G5 :P
It's really refreshing to see someone making actual good faith criticisms and even more so to see someone earnestly seeking them out and responding to them like you did.
That said, I strongly disagree that "dated visuals" are a bad thing per se, but rather just a personal preference. And even then, if they had to choose, most people would certainly pick consistent & functional aesthetics over "trendy" aesthetics. We'd much rather the former be prioritized over the latter.
i would appreciate being able to save layouts or at least having a few different by default
There's configsaver applet for that, go see my video about it
You can look at how feren os does this. It is a kcm, so you can steal it to plasma. Though kde will probably not accept such mr as copying other desktops' layout isn't a goal.
@@emblemi6345 Feren os Dev is part of KDE designers and when it will possible to upstream I'm sure we'll do that
@@niccoloveslinux I meant that the idea might contradict kde design goals. By 'other desktop' I do not mean feren, but those styles namely macos, windows, ubuntu
@@emblemi6345 No I think we'd happily accept layout kcm
Gg Nice video thank you for your work
One major thing I'd love to see for KDE plasma is a multi-monitor enhancement which would be allowing us to mirror or "sync" panels across different monitors.
Personally I run 3 monitors, but even with 2 this was a bit of a hassle. I like to keep all my taskbars identical, so any change be it a new application pinned, the order changed, or a new widget added, needs to be done 3 times instead of just once, which can be kinda frustrating since it's a bunch of steps to get into the edit mode for each panel.
It would be great if we could have all of them linked so any change will just adjust all of them!
And right now PIM is the biggest component that needs work in KDE. I have waiting for Kalendar app eagerly.
10/10 switching back to KDE purely for the open mind. Thanks for all the hard work!
I’m not a KDE user but I’m always taking a look at it, because I quite like the looking and feel how KDE Neon is shipped by default. I’m think this should be the default installation of KDE in all Distros Around even if all the others applications are there but only hidden waiting for some advanced checkbox to be checked and than everything else come up to the menu.
I'm a regular user of Plasma 5.18. While it's great and has made me stick to it for so long, I'm now particularly impressed by Tabbed windows & tiling features of Pop Os.
Really wish if you guys at KDE bring this feature back into plasma.
that was really good . i really dont like it when channels like baby wogue just trash talk on desktops and projects because they are small / dont appeal to them.
Good criticism is always important.
I like bW though. Although dude is somewhat toxic, exaggerated & opinionated . Those criticisms happens because he use both GNOME & KDE. Most people don't do that. They just learn something and stick with it without learning or understanding other project's view.
Here is a thought about the System Settings. I like having ALL of the options available, but I can see why some users might find that to be overwhelming. How about a switch on the menu that would do a "SIMPLE" menu and an "EXPERT" menu with all the granularity that some of us love? The search bar could still find a setting in EXPERT no matter which menu you have selected. :-)
I prefer the monolithic approach way more than the 1bln apps where each only does one thing.
I also grew to like the breeze application theme (but I still hate the lineart small Icons and use a completely different icon theme instead)
Also kmail and korganizer are actually very good and I love to use them.
I love Breeze period but more now because it is yours. :)
Can I say i like kde 3.0’s look and feel and the old “Desktop settings wizard”. I wish that was back
When you mentioned lightly it was great because I literally use lightly 😂
It would be nice if lightly could be somehow added as an alternative to the default. If it could be extended to also cover the Plasma theme instead of just the application theme that would be great. Currently my application widgets look completely different to what the widgets on my plasmoids and lock screen look like, which isn't ideal.
Of course, no rush, I love KDE Plasma and most likely will be sticking with it for a very long time.
Also may I ask, what is the purpose of KTeaTimer lol
breeze should have window decoration transparency kinda like glass8+ for windows 10 1909
is that a stash in the background? Micro-Mir kit in the bottom ? or am I just seeing things ....
I laughed so hard at the babywogue mention😂
hiya again captain. i really wish users would do "this is me just using it" like linus did... that would be very constructive.. as a reference, i teach martial arts and the user is the student and the dev points are the last time they had to defend themselves, so... i get feedback from real world uses.. thats right,, i make the best analogies.
watching these responce vid bring me so much insight on the developers view... reconstructing my windows to linux transition sweeter
ps i watch this guy to, and gardener is of value
KDE Plsma out of the box is *perfect*
Watching this on KDE Plasma!
Plasma is my favourite de. Currently using gnome because the scaling seems to be better but scaling on Linux and 4k or mixed resolution displays needs a lot of work.
I'm eager to switch to KDE, but I keep bouncing back because of the same reason Nick has: the DE might be super flexible, customizable and awesome, but it's inconsistent, and applications are not really curated (so you don't know which apps would keep a similar UX to your DE). Last time I tried it (Fedora 35 KDE spin, everything default) I kept having issues like settings reverting back after a reboot (layout, applets on the bottom bar moving around).
Really hyped about consistency update. I don't like many things the team at Gnome are doing/saying, but I have to give them praise for "gnome circle" and a curation of selected apps that gel perfectly with Gnome's default UX: Think of it as a "Gnome desktop starter pack". KDE used to be king at this but it got lost somewhere after KDE4.
I like third party themes sometimes, though there's nothing wrong with Breeze and I sometimes flip back to it and just run it in dark mode. Currently running it with two plasma panels in a Mate/Gnome 2.x config
Simple by default, powerful when needed. Yup. That's what KDE Plasma needs the most.
I've been using Linux on my main laptop for a few months, firstly Linux Mint (Cinnamon) and then Fedora Workstation 34 (Gnome). From the start I've been interested in KDE Plasma, being so close in interface to WIndows 10, tough when I try it, it's so complex and basic settings are so hard to find that I gave up pretty fast. Some tips about a stable and easy to use KDE distro (no Arch pls) and a good way to understand its vastness of customizability? Also, how's the state of Wayland on KDE Plasma? I really like with the smoothness and fractional scaling compatibility of Wayland, and it would be hard for me to get back to X11.
Hello! I found KDE as one of the best desktop I have ever found! I would really high light two missing things that would be great! 1. Customization in KDE is one of the best, you can get it to look like whatever you want. Would love the option that it offers you to select a default and then construct from there.. Like what you prefer windows like style? Apple? Windows 11?kde? And you select that and then the desktop set up as a basic form of that and then you go from there... This would be great. I saw it implemented in a distro can't remember which..
And secondly you want more feedback from users? Do an app to ask for feed back like windows insider app in windows... They collected a loot of feedback from there and implemented a lot of things 😁
KDE is my main DE in OpenSuse and after using it over years it has improved a lot, but I think KDE is way better in OpenSuse as it is in other distributions. I love how much I can customize it, everytime I use Gnome in any other distro I feel annoyance first because I NEED to install some extensions to make it work, buen when I go back to KDE I feel so glad I can set stuff however I want without installing dozen of extensions, also out of the box it is almost perfect, the only other DE that makes me feel the same is Cinnamon but KDE is more customizable and I like it more
Cinnamon > Maté > KDE
@@folksurvival KDE uses Qt frameworks, which already makes it a better DE. Add customization and the countless GUI shortcuts that save you time instead of going to the terminal, and the other become incomparable.
@@o.aggelos I prefer GTK.
The terminal is good, it's not something to be afraid of or to avoid.
Do you know what needs to be done to make VLC not blurry when using 2x scaling on Wayland?
One of my criticisms with KDE is that when I created a new panel at the top of the screen, remove the volume control and start menu from the bottom panel add them back to the top panel, my volume keys on my keyboard stop working and my super key stopped bringing up the start menu. The super key, I get why, but for the volume keys, why are my volume keys tied directly to items on a panel rather than directly to the volume control?
Noooo, don't remove options from system settings. I love that about KDE, I hate when option I had is gone.
Hey Niccolo' you made a video about kalendar, but how you install it? If you install it from kde apps website through discover it's not working. Do you have to build it from source?
Regarding the search strings, I think it would be nice if the localisations didn't override the original strings. I have KDE set to Danish, but sometimes the English terms are easier to guess than which one of several possible translations of the terms that would apply in Danish.
Yeah, being able to find stuff with the english term and in your local language would be nice.
That's a good point :-) Can you check if there's a bug report about it in bugs.kde.org?
Most kde applications, give you an option in Help menu to use another localization language for that specific application.
@@psifidotos4798 that's not what he meant
He means to have the UI use one language, but also be able to search for actions with the english name.
@@niccoloveslinux There doesn't appear to be a report on the issue, no.
I really want to like the new system manager, but it doesn't fully work on any of my systems. I'd love to see some attempt to work with OpenRC or any other init system.
Can the dev team implement tiling to the settings and the capability to switch the response time, and the layout , and the tiling distance etc, I tried kwin tiling when I used plasma last time, It bugged out and flipped me when I tried to use yakuake, same with gnome, a dropdown terminal was not really an option at all, it would break or it would break the tiling till after a reboot.
There has been a lot of problems with the Gnome-shell and mutter for me, so I'm seriously rethinking the whole situation, and I wonder why I switched to a debian based system, because I don't like it, and I do not like gnome, but Pop! is a bit different. I love the launcher, intelligent dock and dynamic desktops.
Floating panels by default in plasma? I’m on board.
there is a distro like Nitrux, which integrates gnome with kde on debian base. Interesting.
Although I don't think inconsistency is so bad but KDE schould have just have guildlines how qt/KDE app schould look like. If I would be developer who wonted to contribute an app or even help with existing software I would be encouraged by such guidelines so I would know what the f I am doing. But you are all doing great job guys.
To be honest i use kde neon i love everything about it. But i really need some optimization for gaming if you could make in the download option of the iso download whith amd/nvidia drivers that whould be nice. Everything else it is working prety fine on my pc build.
Breeze dark is the only dark themes that work for me. It has excelent contrast, eye candy icons set and consistent. KDE is the only DE that i can stick for long time.
I couldn't agree more with you, breeze dark is the best
Yeah breeze dark is soo good.
I think maybe KDE should reconsider the monolithic approach.
I love KDE, I use it myself, because it uses much less resources than GNOME does, for some reason. My system is old and GNOME shell runs at around 15% CPU …
But the Apps really are not that great, and from what I gather in this video, maybe the reason for that is that there are not too many maintainers. Could it be that maybe the code is just old and really hard to maintain? Maybe smaller apps (UNIX philosophy anyone?) would make it easier to maintain the apps and attract more developers? Just a thought. I mean you said it yourself, comparing Korganizer to Kalendar. "It may be easier […] to do these applications from scratch."
You could even maintain the same GUI experience by having the GUI be one app interfacing with the backend pieces APIs (following an adapted to desktop microservices model). From an organization standpoint, still have the front end app represent the rest of the applications as a meta-collection.