Jew Vs. Anti-Israel Oldies
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- During the 2020 AIPAC Policy conference, two anti-Israel old-timers were protesting outside while spreading conspiracy theories and a plethora of false information. It is important to engage each individual with respect and to intellectually dismantle their position in order for them, or others listening, to understand the facts and see the truth.
A large part of this video talks about the history of the name “Palestine”. Regardless of the history behind this word, there is a group of people today called Palestinian and they must be included into the equation when finding resolution for the future of the land. There is no future without either Israelis or Palestinians, so it is imperative not to let individuals (especially foreign spectators) to manipulate history in order to pin one population against the other.
There is another video that I made on this topic that goes more in depth: / 257175904948203
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The man with the hat is pretty cool, he is not totally ignorant, I like that. At least he knows how to listen too.
Yeah, he is not selfish.. ignorant arrogant
He kept interrupting Rudy. The old man was rock solid in his prejudice. At least he didn’t resort to name-calling. I’ll give him that.
@@Omega13channel prejudice? 🤣 that's quite a defense!
Try that anti Semite nonsense on me. Who's 1st? ☠🇮🇱☠
@@scottmaltby4511 what? Nonsense? Explain yourself.
These type of ppl only proove that no matter how many facts you put them in the face, they will continue to believe in what makes them feel good.
True my guy.
He’s actually right and you think he’s wrong because you’re a jew. The truth is hard to accept.
Owen Teague Is Hot Wow what an argument
Owen Teague Is Hot Since he’s right. What about palestinians christians that are arabs too. Did they came from Saudi Arabia too? Thank you end of discussion.
XANNY There’s no need to argue . You can’t win.
Your patience is a touchstone. Keep fighting the good fight Rudy.
@gloves girlxbaby Judaism is a nationality not a religion
the Israelites never owned land before
@vertigo hotel15 are u kidding
the ancient israelites are from middle east not from europe
@@unholygremlinug8786 no its a religion for the chosen ones
@@ibrahramadhan5147 News for you:judea before romans.
i really wanna see rudy debate black hebrew isrealites xd
Make it happen
sheeeiit
I really wanna see that lmao
Me to 🙃
@Find The Light they dislike all Jews claiming rights to Israel 🇮🇱 and Africans 🌍. They being BLACKs believe they are the real Jews, and they read the King James Bible😳
Dude, my hat off to you. Israel needs more advocates like you.
Hes lying
@@rajab4187 about what specifically?
the Israelites never owned land before
@@ibrahramadhan5147 They have its called facts you know
@@ibrahramadhan5147 explain the historical kingdom of israel/judea
When a Kurdish girl has Ashkenazi DNA, you know the region was mixed up and that the Ashkenazi Jews were part of the region.
Learn to use gedmatch.
Rudy I appreciate your work BUT, I would love to see debate that are more challenging with more reasonable people lol
Rudy should debate people who actually can debate with him. Debate Miko Peled, Ilan Pappe, Norman Finklestein, Shlomo Sand, Eran Elhaik, Tzvi Misinai etc... All are Jewish and all are much older and much more knowledgeable than anyone Rudy goes up against. They have the credentials, experience and knowledge that Rudy does not. His passion is commendable but he doesn’t know everything.
I agree. Often I find that these debates are very repetitive and just filled with the same false claims. I think a debate with a truly educated Palestinian supporter would be very interesting
@@justins9786 He made numerous false claims in this video. The primary one is when he said the Palestinians originate from Saudi Arabia...... absolutely ridiculous lie.
@@ronz2754 That's true, Palestinians originate from Saudi Arabia and started populating the land of what's today Israel through the arab conquests, of course you can use the made up term of "Levantine Arab" (another term arabs invented to cope with the fact that they're currently living in places where they do not belong to in the first place) but that wouldn't change the oblivious fact that the palestinians are in a huge portion of their DNA arabians.
This wizard should see the 1939 Palestinian flag
Ye star of David in yellow
גונדלף הצטרף לאס אס
That flag is lies. It’s not seen in any history or archeological studies.
I love how by the end that man was entirely speechless.
The man was speechless because of rudy bullshit
He cut his speech many many times
@@rajab4187 the video is already 15 min it’s just logical to cut it
He's tired of trying to talk over this suit wearing punk
@@peezemoney2437 all of what rudy said was true😂
Awesome video, you keep a cool head while discussing some tough stuff. Truly a model for those who support Israel.
His argument that gets him out of every Palestinian argument is "the jews have the right to claim their own land: Judea, because it was theirs 2 000 years ago. And also, Palestine was never a state because it was under the British, ottoman, byzantine (etc) rule ". Even if those are technically true, they aren't eligible to justify Israeli sovereignty and superiority.
Claiming something that was somewhat yours 4000 years ago doesn't make sense because jews have settled all over the world, they have created new cultures, and have mixed with people from everywhere (from Ethiopia to china to Poland). Thus, they aren't one common group or people anymore. You can't take an Ashkenazi and an Indian jew and tell them that they are actually from the same land, or belong to the same thin group.
During those 4000 years people have occupied the land, the latest people were Palestinians. They have been there for generations, for many centuries. Thus they have the right to claim it, even if they lived there under ottoman or British rule. They were not a state: they were people, families, landowners, farmers... With an identity and culture. No one has the right to displace them and put them in inhumane conditions. Jews immigrating mostly voluntarily from all over the world and settling in Palestine is simply not right, despite their claims.
Both sides should TODAY have the right to live there, but with equal rights, equal opportunities and duties. One state or two states, it doesn't matter as long as peace is a constant. The solution isn't in the past, the past is actually what makes more problems, what doesn't allow people to forget and move on. And that is because none of the sides is gonna magically disappear. Dignity and human rights for the Palestinians, overness and Liberty of problems for the Israelis.
i have a philosophical question, do you think a land should belong to whoever lived there first or to whoever is strong enough to hold on to it?
another example would be were the romans the rightful owners of all the land the conquered or were they illegitimate oppressors?
@adam benzaari: according to you, who should control the land? the ones that were before ? or the ones that are strong enough to defeat the other?.
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@@andrespena2382 You can't really answer such a question because it all depends of actual context, it's not a matter of before or stronger. It's a matter of suffering and oppression.
"have mixed with people from everywhere (from Ethiopia to china to Poland). Thus, they aren't one common group or people anymore. You can't take an Ashkenazi and an Indian jew and tell them that they are actually from the same land, or belong to the same thin group. "
For someone who, on the whole, sounds like he's making a pretty reasonable pro-Palestinian argument, this is a really disingenuous point. By comparing Ashkenazim with some minor groups like the Indian and especially Chinese Jews, the latter of which are essentially nonexistent today, you're skirting around the fact the major Jewish ethnic divisions that make up the bulk of the modern Jewish population, Ashkenazim, Sephardim and Mizrahim, have substantial genetic and historical connection to each other and the Levant. So no, maybe you can't say that to an Ashkenazi and an Indian Jew, but you certainly can say that to a Syrian, a Polish Jew, and a Samaritan.
That isn't to say there was absolutely no mixing with neighboring populations (but, at least in the case of Poland, there wasn't much from Poles; Ashkenazi European admixture comes mostly from Southern Europeans) but it's unlikely that Palestinians are any "purer".
www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2018/03/22/the-origin-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-in-early-medieval-europe/
(emphasis on the last two paragraphs)
It's not a coincidence that the same people that belive that native Americans have no rights to America, say the same thing about another kicked out population- the Jews...
Rudy stop lying to people I am a Jew and you are a kofer because you say you do not believe in religion, Israel belongs to the Jews but we were thrown out and we will return when God is going to send the mashiach, the mashiach does not come for the Zionists who are against the Torah, so better make teshuba, the old man has all the reason, and stop cutting the videos when you have no reason
"I didn't read the whole article" *facepalm*
This old man wow amazing knowledge he have. I love the way he reply with such real fact his argument did the dialogue very interresting.
I think that who was there first doesn't matter. There was a war and like every country in the world (USA for example) the Jews, the winnig side in this war became independence.
So true, unfortunately there are millions of Arabs in “Palestine” that live in horrible conditions ,the unlucky fact for Israelis that there’s something called human rights nowadays and wars are becoming less humane in the eyes of the public
Btw, we as Palestinians reject the flag as it came from Britain
Jews also came as conquerors to Canaan. In judaism they're not native.
You talk history you don't say this.
So they did like arabs did. Come conqueror and settle.
I would like to point something out regarding the assertion that the Arabic speaking people referred to as Palestinians came from the Gulf during the Islamic conquests. Those referred to as Palestinians are genetically quite diverse. Look at the different Christian communities, for example, many of these are descended from Syriacs, Arameans, hellenized Jews, and so on. It would be wrong to delegitimize their equal right to live in the land based on the assumption that they are all descended from Gulf Arabs.
Thankyou as was just thinking that. To consider any mediteranean group anything other than ad mixture is purely political and none sense.
@@puraLusa Yes, I was quite shocked when he made this claim in the video. Many Palestinians today are descendants of these different various groups. Even the ones who are muslim today are people who became arabized and converted to Islam after the Arab conquests.
@@ronz2754 It's political. By the end of the 19th century the vast majority of the world population was ignorant and analphabets. They were what their leaders told them to be. (they as in the vast majority of the world) History tells a diferent story, there weren't that many arabs as there weren't that many romans before. The nationality was claimed by the co-workers as that's how politics used to be done. Identiry gets lost and revamped within generations. Our understanding today just differs because some groups sustained their identity (an exeption not a rule) due to not submitting or fisical traits that differ significantly. The mediteranean isn't one of those places. The identities of the mediteranean are completely fabricated by occupying elites, all of them. Same stronger due to a longer period of borders and government than others. No nation around this sea can define itself ethnically, impossible.
i lost braincells in hearing his argument. Rudy, kudos to you for keeping patience 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Honestly the second guy's arguments weren't that bad. He simply fall into the Palestinian designation trap as if it is an all encompassing proof. That's why appropriating the Palestinian identity was such a brilliant tactic and why we have to remind everyone that this is a romanized Hebrew word to begin with to finally bring awareness to this little inconvenience. The idea that since they call themselves Palestinians is proof of their legal status would be equivalent to Saharans becoming a separate national designation by this identification alone. It's simply formally incorrect.
For some reason he was also reluctant at calling them Arabs which they clearly identify as too.
I wish you remain in your ignorant and stupidity. 😂
I learn about accurate history every time I listen to your videos Rudy. More power to you
You have incredible patience bro.
"No. Bull. Yeah yes." The old guy doesn't know what he's even saying lol
That's a fucking debate right there. Enjoyed that, VERY much
Wow, this hippie will not let Rudy finish any sentence.
Your wrong.rudy interrupted him.hes no fool the old man.he outpointed him on some questions.
Don't call him that.hes very wise the old man.how would you like to be called something you didn't like.
Good point So the Native American Indians should build a powerful military base and have powerful allies to fight the United States army to reclaim their land, just like the ancient Canaanites descendance 😳
This is what is known a "Straw man". Find your dumbest critic and then pretend that person represent all your critics and claim victory by refuting their weak arguments. How about addressing some real criticism.
The United States should end military aid to Israel.
1. Military Aid to Israel is unnecessary. Israel is a very prosperous country and more than capable of paying for it's own military.
2.Military aid to Israel is a security risk to the United States. Israel has been selling American developed military technology to China for more than a decade. These sales have been instrumental in the modernization of China's military.
3.Military aid to israel is a diplomatic liability,
4, Military aid to israel is illegal under American law. Israel's human rights violations disqualifies Israel from receiving military aid under the Leahy Law and Israel's sale of nuclear weapons technology to the Apartheid South African government' disqualifies Israel from receiving military aid under the Symington Amendment.
Corey Smith he is against aid: th-cam.com/video/CVEXB93K6eY/w-d-xo.html
Obviously, the US wants to earn money by selling their military weapons and Israel is a great ally for that. Israel doesn't always rely on American military equipment, only when it comes to arms, armours and aircrafts but not all the time. But Israeli tanks, guns and the Iron dome are 100% Israeli made.
Edit: Israel also runs one of the most active espionage in the middle east which contributed a lot to the USA over the years.
You know that America can change their own laws right? Just like how slavery was legit back then but now it isn't.
He is against foreign aid to Israel. I've seen him mention it a few times in his videos.
Dude keeps on referring to Heraclitus as proof. He meant Herodotus. Of course Herodotus jsut made one vague reference to a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in his "History". No mention of a people called Palestinians or a state or kingdom called Palestine. One vague reference by someone who was't from the region--- there was no evidence of the name being used by the locals . It's like people from Europe calling a whole bunch of Pacific island regions "Oceania" and then later activists will conclude that there was an Oceanian nation, language, culture and people.
But at least he should know the difference between Heraclitus and Herodotus,
Abraham, came from the land of Ur. His father, Terah, was a pagan, but both descendantsof Shem. When Abram left Ur, and "crossed over" the Jordan, he was then known as a "Hebrew", as Hebrew means to cross over. It was this act that made him special, not merely his genealogy. Abraham was not known as a Jew, as the word Jew is not even mentioned until Second Kings. Abraham had Isaac, Isaaac had Jacob, who's name was later changed to Israel, and Jacob had 12 sons who were known as the Children of Israel. To be known as the Children of Israel, it would be for anyone who walked in the way of Elohim's commandments, and feared The Most High. As goes for the Mitsrayite who fled during the Exodus and walked in the ways of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as with the same with the sojourner who did with the Children of Israel in the Wilderness.
Where people get confused today is they associate Israel, and Jew as the same. A Jew is one who is from the Southern Kingdom, the land of Judea. An Israelite, or Ephraimite, was from the Northern Kingdom of the House of Israel/Ephraim. Where is gets confusing is they could both be called an Israelite, but an Israelite is not exclusive to Judea. It would be like a Japanese person is Asian but not all Asian's are Japanese.
The gathering of the Children of Israel, who were lost in the dispersion, is not just for the tribe of Judah, it's for the whole House of Israel. As it says in Hoshea 1:10-11:
10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, You are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, You are the sons of the living El.
11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Yizreel.
When the Lost Tribes of House of Israel, they became scattered and intermixed amongst all the nations. They lost their identiity and their way of life. But this fulfilled the prophecy given by Elohim in Gensis to Abraham saying his seed being that of the stars and sand on the seashore. The Jewish Nation is small nation and does not fulffil this prophecy. But the House of Ephraim/Israel that has been scattered does!
So how do you become of the Nation of Israel, if you aren't from the tribe of Judah. You keep the commandments in the Scriptures. The tribe of Judah has added much to the Torah, the Christians have taken away from it, they even say it's been done away with, but the Torah means Instruction. Instructions from Elohim have never been done away with. There is the Original Insruction. And the Renewed Instruction given by the Son of Yah, Yehoshua HaMashiach. If you do that, that will make you Chosen, and of the Nation of Israel. It's not a genealogical blessing that is limited to just a particular group of people, it can be for anyone. It just so happens that only a specific genealogical group of people originally feared Yah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and so on. But the Nations were grafted in if they walked the same walk.
Amen.
Don't talk about countries and the native Americans not having one. This doesn't matter, they had a connection to the land even though they didn't believe one can own it. Connections to land should be respected but the whole problem with Israel is that people moved in after the Jews were expelled. Thus, it was a takeover -- nothing more and nothing less...
What you are saying about Palestinians coming from Saudi Arabia is false and you know it. Just as is the case with Egyptians or Algerians, these people are ethnic to a land and became “Arabs” due to an arabization of the land. That came with an influence on the language and religion, which is why Arabic became the spoken language and many converted to Islam from whatever religion they were previously. That includes Judaism. Stop changing history and facts to suit your narrative and try to make it as though the Palestinians as we know them today were not indigenous to the land. There were a people living there regardless of what you say and what has happened to them by the hand of Zionism is a tragedy.
Anti Israel ain’t Anti Semitic 👍
That’s like saying I’m anti India but I’m not anti Indian
Might as well say being anti China isn't Sinophobic
@@joshua8774 Antisemites and logic are two opposite things
@@joshua8774 so if I’m anti Saudi Arabia that makes me Islamaphobic?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 schmuck
@@zeromortalsplan ur the only one lacking logic mate keep believing in a fake occupied apartheid state that 3/4 of the world don’t recognise👍 Do u ever ask urself the question how Europeans converts ended up in the Middle East or did ur Zionist regime brainwash u into thinking U were always there😂😂😂😂 I can make a bet with u rn that in the next 20-30 yrs that fake Zionist country won’t exist😂🤝
The ottomans called the land Syria not Palestine.
British called it Palestine because of their love for Roman history
Egyptians are Egyptians before islam.
You do the math.
P.s not all Palestinians are muslims.
People need to understand that G-d is the landlord of this world and he ( G-d ) gave Israel to the Jews period, and I'm not even Jewish to understand this. These people that are saying those days that G-d gave Israel to the Jews are ancient, sorry to bust your bubble but G-d is ETERNAL and the ones who are not eternal are us and one day you will stand in front of G-d trying to defend your antisemitism but you won't win, open your eyes and repent because that day could be very near for you.
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land originally belonged to the cane knights ....
Finally it took an old wise intellectual to put you in your place Rudy.
@Andrea yes but he knew everything else.
When parts of video is being cut and you still don't realise then your a fool
What i dont understand is even though the British owned Palestine at 1948 that doesn’t mean you have the right to attack them, yes they are not a country but they still confirmed themselves and lived there like it was their ^land^ for hundreds of years which gives them the right to stay
Truth
Gandalf is alive🤭
😂😂😂😂
I always assumed that some of these oldheads get paid off for sitting there and protesting. They're not going to sit out in the sun all day, no bathrooms nearby, for something they feel mildly about.
The second man is my man, Rudy started getting angry when he started losing 😂 😂
He can't lose when he doesn't have any competition. These people he speaks with have no education and they don't know facts. Sorry
I think the only way to talk to people is actually showing them facts on the spot. If he says some nonsense then show him again that he needs to be educated otherwise talking to people that saying same things over and over things that are false or lies will be like talking to a wall with facts being ignored.
Israel and Judea are not the same people. Would one say Canada and France are the same people. They both had distinct borders and distinct national aspirations leading to their split.
Also rudy contradicts himself with every breathe. Besides the examples I already gave in my other comment, when talking about arafat he says who was born and raised in Egypt by the way essentially detaching him from the region. This quote is problematic because it again shows the double standard he uses (Almost all Jews for over a thousand years have been born and raised outside of judea or any of the places where the tribes of Israel lived. The hypocrisy and double standards are honestly constant in this man's videos. Another point he makes in all of his videos is that you are from the place that that the culture of your people was made. Does this again only apply to Jews? According to him Palestinians have only been living there for 1500 years when Islam spread to the levant (this is false but I'll use his flawed premise to collapse his argument anyway) anyway when the culture of the people of the levant being Syria Palestine Lebanon and maybe some parts of Jordan was born does that not make them indigenous to the land according to you rudy?
He is a liar and only speaks with people with basic or minimal knowledge on the subject. I am shocked that he claimed all Palestinians are descended from Saudi Arabia..... lets say this is true..... what about Palestinian Christians? where are they descended from? I'll tell you where, they are descended from various assyrian, syriac, babylonian, greeks, and many more peoples who have passed through the land.
Rudy, don't listen to all those Palestine supporters, what you're doing is great. People around the world need to learn the truth about the middle east and its surroundings!
Excellent video as usual, just a small error, 11.48 "neo polis" was a name given by the romans but the expression comes from ancient greek , not latin
I agree with a lot said in this video, but I have to disagree with palestinians being descendants of Arabia. Only Arabs in the Arabian peninsula are ethnically Arab, palestinians and levantine Arabs are not ethnically Arab, they're pheonican, Assyrian etc
they all originated from the Hijaz, it’s just that some left a long time ago for regions such as Assyria while others left later on or never left at all (Saudi Arabian Arabs). that doesn’t mean they are a monolith, just that that’s where they originated from
I agree with you on many points but in terms of history I'm sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about at all. First you made the claim that there was never a state called Palestine or a state of Palestinians. This is true if you use the western European definition of a state but like you've said in other videos that's not how any group lived in the middle east before the British and French. Each area would simply be known as that specific region (for example the levant or the Persian gulf etc.) Then small communities would just govern over themselves much like the ancient judeans did;the people from the tribe of judea never had a formal state that governed the entire region did they? No that's because you're using British ideas to make your argument. However you are correct in saying that the entire region has been controlled by empire after empire whether a caliphate the Romans the babylonians etc. This is irrelevant though because the people living in all the places controlled by these empires had largely been unchanged. Its funny to me when people hold a double standard in saying that because Palestinians see themselves as Arabs speak Arabic and are part of the Arab league that they are the descendants of Arabs from Arabia. Nobody is saying the same thing about morrocans Syrians somalis or any other people that consider themselves Arab today. Do you know why? Because its the most stupid argument you could ever make and isn't backed by any genetic evidence either. That's basically like making the claim that when the Arabs went to morroco ALL of the natives were driven out and replaced by Arabs from Arabia and that's why they are Arabs today. Or that Syrians aren't the descendants of assyrians because when the Arabs took over Syria all the assyrians left or died out. NOBODY makes these claims because they are ridiculous and its the same with Palestine. The truth is that empires leave a mark on the population of a region and because of so many reasons like the Arabs controlling the region for so long, because everyone converted to Islam because the Arab caliphates were one of the most prosperous times in history of any civilization many people learned Arabic because it was the most useful language, the mark left by the Arabs is obviously greater than the Romans for example. Another point I would like to make is your stupid repetitive rants of the jews being THE indigenous population, my first point about this is a question WHERE ARE THESE JEWS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? As much as you deny it the Jews as a race died out long ago and modern Jews aren't really judeans or israelites but are Europeans or North Africans or Syrians etc with some broadly levantine ancestry maybe 20 or 30 percent and that's not even tracing back to the ancient Israelites that's just broadly levantine. It's like someone saying that they are 20%broadly Asian and then because, not even the majority, of their ancestors lived somewhere in Asia 2 THOUSAND YEARS AGO they are an indigenous population and have the right to live in japan even though there is already a population of actual natives living there. However I don't believe that Jews should leave the region because some Jews have an actual claim to the land since they and their parents and grandparents maybe even might have been born there but not because they have some innate right from being an indigenous people (which they aren't). I am however against any Jew no matter where on earth they live being able to gain Israeli nationality tommorow even if they've never stepped foot in the country.
You destroyed that old guy Rudy. The original palestinians were actually jews he is right
Rudy you are the king of Hasbara
Don't call him a hippie.how would you like to be called something you didn't like.
The two radical ends of nationalism that we have today is either creating an ethnicity through a geographic regions name or creating an ethnicity through the leaders ethnicity and erasing the rest of existing ones.
By the end the guy is just proving your point
All jews should be able to have the same knowledge and work on our ability to hold these conversations. This is helping so much 1 person by 1 person. Imagine if we all got at it in our networks. So agree that peace will not come from power, it will come from the people.
"Judea Capta" means "Judea has been captured/conquered" while "Capita" has a different meaning..
I believe there were Arabs in the area of Palestine before the Islamic conquest. Look at the bedouins, although ironically they are more pro-israeli. But I also think that the Arabic people have been mobile for thousands of years and though they don't lay claim to Judea they were certainly in the area for millennias. In terms of the Jewish right of return I've always felt that Jewish people are thoroughly mixed with other races and I'm not so sure that they can even claim to be Jews as much as their ancestors. But Israel's not going anywhere and this is the modern reality
"Don't claim a country" (in regards to the Native American Indians). Rudy this logic is so twisted for your cause!
How so?
*“I don’t know I didn’t read the whole article”*
Go get em rudy, love your work so much. Especially as someone who's part ethnically Jewish😁
Philistia (not modern Palestine in arabic spelled with F not P) existed before ancient judea and Israel. The philistines are a group of the ancient see people that had no land and raided Egypt after peace with Egypt they established in modern days Palestine
Lmfaoooo philistines were from Greece, literally from the Aegean Sea. They died out long ago. How can Palestinians call themselves Arabs with last names from other Arab countries yet still somehow claim to be phillistines which would make them Greek and not even native? They’re going through and identity crisis and don’t want to confront the truth. We don’t have problems with them calling themselves Palestinians, they are a people and are here too stay. We want to make peace with them but trying to delegitimize us while not confronting their own history will never help. And by the way phillistia was was only 5 cities in the southwest levant, Gaza, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, and Gath.
@@joshua8774 Before ancient Israel and judea that land belonged to whom the Jews conquered it lost it and occupied it again. We forget history but in our modern day this will never be forgotten its an open conflict until the end of times and they will lose it again as long as Jews have to fight for existence.
You are a brilliant light
What a Smart old man
Smart if you multiply his intelligemce by -1
Wayne: For a homeless man, he had an awful lot of information, don't you think
i don’t think he’s homeless, just an old hippie dude
The first 2 minutes describes modern day liberals PERFECTLY! Good job exposing these LUNATICS Rudy! The thing to understand is that modern day liberals tend to only see things in terms of OPPRESSOR/OPPRESSED (w/ little to no context) and that is a DANGEROUS way to look at things!
For 2,000 years Rudy says that "it" was passed between empires. So what! People lived there and called it HOME. Then your people came and colonized. Your Jew bias is incredible, you should study to be a lawyer. From the point of view of Palestinians living there for at least 700-800 years your claim from 2,000 years ago is gibberish!
As someone with no skin in the game and no real cultural heritage, I find it interesting that you can have a 2000 year old claim on something.
@@rgaud8 No cultural heritage, Hinduism goes back at least 7,200 years. Its founders are unknown. The thought of Abraham meeting God is just a Hallucination. Live today, and live in peace. Don't try to take over territories for your tribalistic benefits. We are all the same, just some people are not enlightened...
Buddha1968 I hope you didn’t think my statement was pointed at you, as I was agreeing with your statement. Dead people’s baggage keeps us divided and instills a sense of entitlement.
@@rgaud8 Cool, be a seeker. Have an open mind.
The old man won the battle 💯 lol
No fool like an old fool.
Rudy ,,i am a fan of yours,alot have a happen during 5000 years ago.Just like a jewish born in Brooklyn have a right to claim a land in judea or pelestine ,Pelestine or arab or semite people born in judea or pelestine also have a right to clam the land of israel .Anyway ,Your quest to find a peacefull solution is apreciate .
rudy you are kicking ass i love you man
You can’t use the excuse we came from there because we are there and you guys came
This is the first guy who actually has some grasp of history
It's amazing how some people know Jewish history they don't know nothing!
I thought he wants to find people that weak one and less knowledge with his appearance. So that he can win the debate with that person. Unlucky, the old man is very wise and has a lot of knowledge. Absolutely that old man is not arrogant
Omg you’re so full of hate. Why do you think he wants to find someone weak? He spoke with an old man who barely listened to him for 10 minutes, with nothing but patience and respect. And yes, the oldie is much less knowledgeable but he does know how to argue. If you didn’t notice, he knows probably 20 percent of what really happened. He is fierce though.
Bro, how do you go from his point: 'Judaism is not from eternity' to the 'Judaism is a suitcase' bit? The simple answer was, everyone knows that Jesus was a Jew, and one of his contemporary disciples was 'Judas' (the Jew). Augustine knew about the Jews (as Jews not Hebrews or Pharisees or Israelites), as did Josephus flavius.
I kinda think you got it wrong my mate.
Thank you Rudy, beautiful conversations
I search the word Philistine and I saw it
le niveau d'ignorance de l'histoire de la région est abyssal, bravo Rudy
דבר אחד שאני לא מסכים איתך, לפני הקמת המדינה כן היו תקיפות של יהודים על ערבים (היו גם של ערבים על יהודים), וזה קצת מבאס לשמוע שאתה מכחיש את זה במקום לקבל את זה
Rudy you are an encyclopedia well done sir
Is Rudy a Jew or not as in religion? Because he said that he doesn’t believe in the Jewish religion
Sorry but that Native American answer is a cop out. "They don't believe in a country, etc etc" Then why did they fight amongst each other for territory and also against the colonists?
BS - it's the same thing. The Native Americans trying to reclaim their land is the same exact thing. Don't be intellectually dishonest.
Fascinating debate. The old man has a lot of historical knowledge of Palestine.
This old man is very wise and knowledgeable. He was well prepared and kept responding
he responding with the same propaganda bullshit the "palestinians" spew out to the world, these are no more the imaginative thoughts rather then facts
I don't think you were really listening to the old man I think you're agreeing with him in order to just push in your point.
I notice that
okay boomer. why does he look like my dead grandpa
Great video as always.
Before the Jews invaded the land, it was called canaan and the people that lived there were called cananites, the cananites were Arabs. So this proves Arabs were there first. Rudy can find all this information where he gets his information on judea from. Old man had good knowledge and understanding well done to him
Umm Chuck Schumer and Cory Booker also came. There was a couple of more democrats there. Firstly guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about
That old man is more wise and level-headed than you will ever be.
What a hero.
1st guy is a fraud.
Rudy: we can claim what is ours 4,000 years ago.
Natives 500 years ago; NO.
I’m an Israeli Jew and I’m so so so so annoyed by Rudy
his point about native americans is on point and ive used it my self
Godness am Jewish but this Rudy is such a pain to watch. He doesn't want to discuss he will never change his opinion on anything he just wants to broadcast himself and his big mouth in these videos
I don't like that genetics argument. It is irrelevant shat your genetics are. If a child from Uganda is raised in Germany and learns no other culture and language than the German language, that kid is fully German no matter what his/her parents were. Genetics are interesting if you want to know where your origins are, although those test are not precise but it doesn't necessarily say something about your ethnicity if you are raised completely in another way than your ancestors were. If you would test Egyptian arabs you might find more DNA similar to that of the ancient Egyptians but other than that they have no relationship because their language and culture defines them as arabs. Same thing with the Palestinians if someone might find 99.99% of phoenician DNA that wouldn't mean anything to me, they are Arabs and any ancestor theory might be interesting but at the end it doesn't matter.
Due to the fact that Palestine is no nation because it did not exist as any form of identity until 48 and because they are Arabs I would like any of those anti-Israel people to look at the map. All the way from Morocco to Iraq all that territory was conquered by arabs and now there exist Arab states, but if the Jews want to have a little piece of land after the British mandate, that's to much. I am against a lot of the things Israel has done and I am against the expulsion of many of the arabs that lived there but those arabs had and have the chance to live as Israeli citizens not to forget that the Arab states declared war just after Israel was founded.
finally rudy met a wiser and smater man than him
Not everything is anti Semitic
the older gentleman made some really good points in favor of palestine