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0:00-3:27 Vegas trip and LCQ
3:27 Red Bull Kumite main event
17:52 JDCR and Book
21:29 Changing characters - เกม
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Lil Majin also said that there must be some kind of lag when he reviewed JDCR vs Knee, so the veterans notice every little things, amazing!
Just watched kwiss match with him commenting on his fight against jdcr he aLSO said that input lag was there
"Movement? Out of the window.
Just run up and press buttons."
80% of the players in online tekken
Lol, that advice to Book is fucking hilarious.
I don't know if it was intentional, but everything leading to it just made it better.
Like how they first met, and Book asking JDCR for advice, yet JDCR gives none.
8 years later, Book is now at the same age of JDCR, and finally JDCR gives him advice "Stop playing Lidia right fucking now".
Only took him 8 years to hear that advice.
if book and jdcr are the same age now... wouldnt they have been the same age 8 years ago too?
@@GrassSaint33 He probably means Book has now reached JDCR's age 8 years ago.
@@Pabz16 ah that makes sense
ur delusional Book is only 7 years younger than JDCR, tf is u talkin bout bro
Took him 8 years to hear the advice and then he didn't even like the advice :) the funniest thing
whoever does these subtitles is a legend, great work
"Why am I doing this!? I have no brain!" - Ah my most repeated tekken saying
No brain, without thinking?
lol It's the word that expresses my play most accurately.
Really appreciate the in-depth psychology JDCR gave of his experience; he's like the Dostoevsky of tekken xD
Love this video JDCR. I love the honesty with which you are sharing your own feedback on your matches. Learning so much how you view your game and opponents. Plus sad if you're dropping AK. But I am sure if you're in correct mindset for any character, you can make it work for sure. Best of luck
He is not dropping AK. Video title is misleading. He is only dropping AK for PS4 torunaments due to input lag.
@@DreadPyke I got it bro. That's why saying if JDCR choses to drop.
JDCR is the ronaldinho of tekken will take your soul with a smile on his face🤣💀
Kids these days don't even know who Ronaldinho Gaucho is
The magician
Thanks for the update. It's a pleasure hearing your thoughts and experiences about an event and community I only know on the surface
Now I learned that your mental state really does make a lot of difference in tournament plays. Kudos to you JDCR for managing to reach this far even after all the setbacks and challenges, along with your poor mental and body state. You are truly a living legend.
We need more anti-character guides by you JDCR ❤ I used to panic when facing akuma, but I have significantly improved since this video. We need that gold mine.
points taken;
- console delay is real
- therefore, you will probably have a hard time with key punishing moves, and harder execution timing based punish (unless you have god level yomi)
- consequently, there is a case for lower-mid tier PC characters actually being viable on console.
better to have tried than not at all. if the character won't fit your game plan based on external factors (this example being console delay), then having a console main sounds like a good idea.
I played with my friends on ps4 and he kept saying my pc has input delay (maybe because he kept using ds4 on my pc)
next time I'll overclock his ds4 so he won't give excuses whenever playing on my pc.
@@alphu5 I got my brother to play on my pc and he normally plays on xbox and he noticed immediately how much quicker the input response was and vice-versa when i played on his xbox how delayed it was. You almost have to preemptively do some inputs to get them to consistently punish. I play on stick normally but if im using a pad and ds4windows, BT Poll Rate to 1000 = like 1ms input so yeah i'd overclock if your friends really complaining lol.
@@alphu5 I think the PS5 (and possibly a slow monitor) was the problem here. I think most tournaments have been held using a PS4 so that should be ok for tournaments.
@@epicon6 whenever i switch from pc to console again (tekken) i am disgusted by how much delay there is even in practice mode. They should really up their tournament standards and get themselfes some pcs that can run tekken at atleast 1080p. So literally anything above 600-700$ which is basically the same as current console prices anyway
@@tqhr Same, it feels shitty on console after playing on PC for a while. Like I can't do shit with Mishimas on console but can do EWGFs consistently on PC. I wish they make PC as a standard.
18:26 this is even funnier now considering book made it to top 3 as Jin in CEO 2021
He actually took his advice lmao
Top 2 at twt 2022 and pulled out his Jin too
JD is hilarious man. Its great two see you are truly one person in the ring and a super nice and chill guy when you're not at a tourney
I mean it's true. Check the semi finals and grand finals. Do you often see a character that requires a lot of execution? Nowdays you see only fakhs, lidias, leroys, fengs,geeses. I think ease of charcter is quite important in tournaments (from tournament player perspective).
Can we get more videos like this. I really enjoy hearing JDCR just talking about his games and his mindset
I personally feel like AK is not going to get you any further than just making top 8 in tournaments. He's got some good tools, but his flaws are so apparent and the execution demand on his whiff punishment is too demanding for high level play. He has the same issue as Mishimas except he doesn't have a scary 50/50 out of his wave dash like they do.
I don't want to say Arslan is right about character loyalty, but I think he does have a point when it comes to their success rate.
Everybody talking about character loyalty in tekken and here JDCR just stated the best advice about it.
That was a really enjoyable video, felt like deep diving to JDCR's brain during the entire duration of the tournament and hilarious at times
It's very cathartic and humbling to see someone that plays at as high of a level be able to step back and say what the fuck was I doing in that moment, but the thing I hope many viewers agree with is that you should embrace the grappler nature of AK much more!
This was brilliant, very funny! Great advice too.
Good decision if JDCR feels like he has to adapt to the lag he should indeed practice a spare character for Consoles.
everyone was rusty after such a long time of no tournaments, and if you add the fact that Steve was yelling UHH in everyone's ears...
😂😂secret tech. Bribe Steve to stand away from you
those headphones supposedly had quite a lot of noise cancelling
@@haughtygarbage5848 You could visibly see NL getting tilted during SFV kumite regardless of headphones. There’s no crowd to drown out the dude yelling at the screen right over your shoulder.
Lol steve was easily the best caster there, the other casters were ignorant to Tekken notation and even mislabled moves.
@@Acanaceous_YT doesn’t change the fact that he should’ve been at least 8 feet further away from the competitors so he can privately commentate lmao
That sucks that you don't get rest during the event, but you did your best
As I was watching JD v Cuddle I could already notice somethings, like huh is that JDCR playing? This video explains a lot and that advice for Book was very good.
Yeah the input lag between console and pc are way too apparent, and I believe even more so with pad (though this part may apply on the ps5 using ps4 pad). Even playing simpler characters, like king, Josie, Shaheen, etc. has their issues. Just doing simple things like dash ups, you can feel the input delay. This is especially bad when you need to do things like microdashes or timing specific combos like kings ff+1 combo.
Just a counter point as well, im sure a lot of these other players don't play on console as well anymore, especially the major US pros. Considering the history of competitive games in japan, such as street fighter, it seems more likely that gen may have the most experience with Playstation lag. I wouldn't be surprised if knee was frustrated with the lag as well.
Knee definitely was, he told chanel on a phone call that the monitor was really slow, and he just can't make it work with his dvj, hence he switched to steve even though he always used DVJ against Gen.
JDCR laying down the hard truths.
F+4 is a good ass move though.
Good-ass move but requires execution. Still a good move though if you ask me, a Jin main.
The title is slightly misleading. He said he is only quitting Armor King on console, not for PC tournaments.
This is because playstation tournaments have more input lag, and it makes fishing for Dark Uppers and whiff punishes much harder for AK. On PC, he still plans to stick to AK. But likely, he will bring out another pocket pick for PS4 tournaments that are less reliant on macro play (Like Fahk, Dragunov etc.). Characters that are weak to option selects are generally stronger in PS4 tournaments, as it's harder to fuzzy them like Katarina, Miguel etc.
yt world is a rough place. i don't blame mr editor for trying to get more clicks.
@@Rotory2r
I did everything BUT the thumbnail and title haha
Nice perspective on the differences between PC and console. I'm a fan of Armor King but do agree a console substitute may be needed. My main is Feng and he's quite easy to play. Maybe give him a go. Might surprise you JDCR.
the condition of the players must be at the top of his game. make sure you try to get enough rest to focus next time JDCR. :)
24 minits of JDCR roasting himself , ahahahah really funny and fun to watch
whew the title scared me, just now getting into AK
AK is also one of Super Akoumas mains, so I'm sure that made that set that much harder tbh
FR JDCR's english at 20:55 sounds so good!
Yeah, I love Jimmy too. Hope he'll return soon.
Glad to hear about ps5 lags, coz I had the same feelings. I am a PC gamer, but recently I played couple of times on ps5 offline and it felt so weird. I thought I just had brain lag or something on my side, but JDCRs opinion cleared some things for me like movement problems and getting hit by moves you usually block and you felt that you supposed to block but it didnt. So weird, you dont know exactly what is wrong, but you feel something is wrong.
JD also said they changed the monitors for the next days Street fighter matches, so, it might have just been a low refresh rate that was adding to the input lag.
@@BroNapartay it was definitely the monitor, Knee said that the monitor was slow too, he said PS5 is not that bad, the monitor is what matters more, and the set up there was so bad he just couldn't continue with his DVJ even though thats who he uses against Gen.
Its all good JDCR everyone here still knows ur a God at tekken🔥🔥
"Oh damn, this is how it's finna be?!"
Gold
Just want to say that you are now my favorite player just due to how you conduct yourself and how awesome you are as a person - don't care about results
This was too much fun to watch you went full stand up comedian here 🤣
my god first time i hear from a pro player after so long that katarina maybe good on pc i feel so good that i always mained her since 2017 happy to hear it
Ashame about AK not being viable for console as he is my favorite to watch you play but understand where you coming from with input lag and his need for timing to maximize punishment. Keep up the great content JD
"Gigas might be also really good."
What time line an I living in again?
the new console timeline
Console timeline kek
knee also said console delay lol
he said he could not block anything against GEN
Lool this is me online 80% of the time. Looking clueless and getting counter hit by normal hit strings. Inputs getting *deleted* , 10f jabs trading with 13f moves. Sometimes i wish i could run back a set at my opponents house lol
one of the FEW offline tournament since COVID, and they couldn't have a proper set up where it doesn't feel like you're playing on molasses....jesus how hard is it to get a good monitor for a tournament?
Woah, I was surprised that they used ps5s? They should have done their research. I've helped with organizing a major once, and if we had the option to use ps5s I would have turned them down.
Hopefully this doesn't happen again!
The difference in lag can be very important for people who put so much time into specific inputs.
Nah, they need to show off their bank account ;) But yeah, when the organisers were organising this, I'm pretty sure they were putting more thought into making it as flashy as possible.
All consoles have delay though and what have been used basically forever. Is the ps5 just that much worse than the ps4?
@@pumpkin1escobar on release day Guilty Gear Strive, PS5 had about 6 times the delay input PC had with PS4 only having 4 times that amount.
This is so fucking validating for any playstion tekken player. Shit just doesn’t fucking work sometimes it is so miserable.
Please dont quit armor King. Maybe just take a break from him but don't give up on him
Oh, still gonna play him on pc. Got it
yeah hes really a good AK player, it will be sad if he quit him
He doesnt quit,just not play him anymore on console
how about training with lil majin? i saw his armor king was more grappling focused. you'd both learn a lot from eachother combining techs
definifely. JDCR's fundamentals with Majin's tech would be the ultimate Armor King
imagine ttt3 with 2v2, jdcr's AK with Majin's King
JDCR's AMK is fine the way it is.. Majin being a grappling focused player got countered by LowHigh.
no matter who you play, you still the best JD!!!
I see his session with green ranks was coming in clutch when brain machine need refreshing.
Look, you hear the master words first time here guys, it is a FAQing deep teaching 😂
damn jdcr, thank god you subtitle this! lmaoooo
My real question is how do you even zone out Steve making noise while trying to concentrate?
Last 8 seconds are golden lol
고생하셧어영 ㅠㅠ
JDCRs advice to book, omg, it caught me so off guard ahahahaha
Seriously it's more fun playing characters I like compared to generic top tiers. If I win with a top tier I don't like, then I won't be playing with passion.
What an absolute legend.
JDCR copying arslan by not sleeping the entire tournament, it failed because he forgot to not eat as well
I play Bryan on console trust me its special combos are so hard i can just do in practice online impossible. and taunt jet upper impossible. i been playing since 2 years i should be able to play that char at full potential :(
Guys, will there be "twt finals" in December this year?
Question to people who know more about this than I do: is the lag on PS5/4 set ups more Sony's or more Bamco's fault?
It's astonishing that maining different characters depending on the system the tournament will be played on is even a possibility. What a game man...
I think ps4 had a patch that make it comparable to pc, but ps5 is bad.
Ps5 shouldn't have been the tournament console
@@Flawlesslaughter PS5 is fine. It's the monitors they used. RBK ended up changing the monitors the following day for SFV because of all of the input lag complaints from Tekken and Guilty gear players
@@conenubi701 ps5 does have more input delay than ps4 and pc but yes monitors also make a big difference
아무리 상대와 같은 조건이라곤 하지만 대회측에서 면밀하게 체크하지않고 합리적인 대회 셋팅을 하지 않고 진행하는것이 정말 실망스럽네요. 그래도 멋진 경기를 보여주셔서 감사합니다!
That was great! lol
최근에 본 잡튜브 중에 제일 재밌는 영상이네요
5:57 오케이 오케이 릴렉스 JDCR
Main Leroy😀👍🏻
lmao that ending
How many seconds is the delay?
Hello JDCR. greetings from Brazil! What you think about commentarists? did they bother you screaming so close of constestants. cause i thought was too much.
JDCR is the most likeable guy in Tekken
JDCR main bryan fury...when its laggs do snake edge
What's the difference between PC and Playstation that makes you want to use simpler characters? Are all Tekken in Playstation just laggy compared to PC?
From what i gather theres a notable input lag on console compared to pc. Not sure by how much exactly.
th-cam.com/video/WC-_w1upK9E/w-d-xo.html Heres a video demonstrating it. It doesn't have exact numbers but it has a slow mo. It is probably very noticeable at extremely high levels of play or generally any level of play after PC i guess
PC for online console for offline
If you're a pc player only, you'll notice it
경기 잘 봤어요!
세상에서 제일 좋아하는 플레이어, 세상에서 제일 보는맛 쩌는 플레이어
Yep that was Aris talked about for his whole life
JD
Jdcr tough on himself, i think you do better next time my dude
Always fly Delta Airlines my friend. Always better service than those other guys, and their planes are better maintained than other American airliners.
lol
Im a big fan btw first
Yeah, the delay of your flight made didn't help. Using PS5 for the tournament was a mistake from Redbull. Very disappointing to hear you're dropping AMK but understandable, if you don't believe in the character and can't make him work there's no reason to continue playing him at the absolute highest levels. (although I assume that JDCR could make him work, would've loved to see him going for more grabs and a little more risky lows, Knee wins at poking fights).
He isn't dropping AK permenantly, only for PS4 tournaments. Title is misleading.
@@DreadPyke I mean obviously that means most bigger offline events. Kinda sad to see that even Red Bull didn't chose pc for their event. Or at least verify the PS5 setup to be adequite before using them.
I mean... at least United didn't punch him and drag him out the plane lol
Gigas. Go with Gigas. The world is going to watch the shit out of that.
you should watch lil majins reaction to your AK play. According to him you didnt use AK right
I don't like how many characters are in tekken that are just there for the sake of being there.
Feng could be good for you
imagine JDCR teaching in class:
What the result of 2,2,2,2
Class: Noctis
JD: No, Fakuhram.
Fuck it JDCR just needs to main Lars now and get good fundamentals again lmao
I wonder how jd feels about Raven now
if that's the case, why are they still doing tournaments on an outdated console that lags?
Because of sponsorship by Sony. I remember hearing lag issue on console(PS4) since 2017. Every pro players acknowledged that there is some lag in PS4.
In this competition, monitors were also sponsored too. (aoc monitors)
the problem was that the monitor's response speed was slow at 5 ms, and it was replaced during the Street Fighter competition due to complaints from the players.
@@markeffeeisn't that bullshit man, they decided to switch monitors after so many players got fucked over
That feeling when you're recovering from jet lag only to deal with more lag from the PS5s at the venue
i dunno man arslan whooped your fahk really bad last time i saw. I think fahk is a bad matchupbfor jdcr because he cant sidestep well. And i think movement is very important for JDCR playstyle
Damn! I never thought the PS4 and PC had such a difference in input lag and other stuff...
I only ever play Tekken on PS4!
Is that why I have such a hard time hitting the Lariat after the Dark Upper? Can anyone who has played both PC and PS4 shed a light on this topic?
No. Lariat after Dark Upper is very lenient and can't really be affected by input lag because you control the timing yourself. JD is talking about having to launch punish d/f+1s but being unable to.
@@bookbagman7012 Oh okay, so that's really my brain and hands lag only and not the PS4... Gotcha! Hahaha 🤣
I need someone to explain what he means by laggy,shits looks the same to me i don't see anything wrong like, visually i dont see it laggy its ok what he mean
23:31 you're welcome
HI JD
actually i dont think the lag has to do something with ps4/ps5. I had the same feeling like jdcr when i played offline - that weird lag input where you just get hit by random stuff and dropping combos and punishers. I think theres something wrong with the monitors but not quite sure
My 5 day lidia is same as book hahahaahah