Howard Zinn is my favorite American historian. I am deeply saddened by his passing. This guy has been fighting for civil rights in this country even before 1960's. His book "A people's history of the United States" is a must-have for all Americans.
I was very sorry to hear about his passing. My condolences to his family and friends. Also, many thanks to Roy Tuckman of KPFK-FM 90.7 in L.A. for playing many of Howard's talks on your Wednesday midnight political shows. I learned so much from listening to people such as Howard Zinn, Michael Parenti, Dave Emery, etc.
Ill be the hero You can be the sidekick! Just kidding. You can make a change in the universe today anyone even a toddler or 400 pound man a poor guy Anyone! And everyone!
I love Howard Zinn ! Yes he was a beautiful being who had this Humanity and intellectual Honesty so rare to find in people . and the guts to address even to FBI members telling them they were acting as the secret police of a totalitarian state , as he did with the result of being badly beaten up by obedient servants of the state who never question orders given to them ! He was such a great exemple and a lesson by his own attitude and questionings ! as as a French , born after the war , I appreciate his honesty : as Michaêl Prysner recognizing that" the terrorist was himself " , as he had been programmed to be that made him realize it , the same way had Howard Zinn never dropped himself napalm , certainly questioning the fact of throwing this over people and questioning how they felt , and what was the use to do such things when the war was practically over , and it was not necessary to make extra hawful killings of people ! ...should bring more people to question .....what Deciding LEADERS who even request immunity for their deeds , NEVER QUESTION !
@aaronsdavis He was a World War 2 bomadier, an integral part of the Civil Rights Movement, who saw and participated in some of the most important events of the 20th Century.. And you think he is naive? :P
@johnmacward The Russian revolution was stillborn. It died the moment the democratic Soviets were annulled. I have zero problem in condemning Lenin, Stalin, Stalinism, all of it. Because after 1920 none of it was Socialism and yet it carried the tag through several decades, doing a great deal of damage in the process. Lenin was the single greatest enemy of Socialism in the 20th Century.
@Meadras Sometimes seeming cold and calculated really does put up a strong aura of pragmatism and common sense, but often times in history though some results are hidden and some results are obvious, we are not aware of all the facts and how things could have been in hypothetical situations. They're hypothetical. What we know are the bombs killed thousands in Hiroshima, and thousands in Nagasaki while Japanese were preparing their surrender. Bombing raids continued after the A-bombs.
but there are a lot more that go into wars than bankers. bankers are not omnipotent players in this world: as you can clearly see by this 700 billion bailout- they need help too
@aaronsdavis A people would need to understand Socialism in order to reject it. I've rarely if ever met an American who did. The American idea of discussing the merits of Socialism was McCarthyism, that in itself tells you quite a bit.
What is the point of Zinn? That bombing is always bad? That war is always unjustified? That war is not kindergarden and people die there for no reason? As a German I can only reject his point of you. I'm glad that they bombed Germany to hell in the 1940s. It was the only fucking way to win this war. This or many more dead American soldiers. Ofc many innocent people died, but this was the fault of the Nazis alone. Bombing has to be justified and unfortunately this is not the case in Iraq today.
My logic is undeniable: Had we not nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan would not have surrendered - The war would have gone on, perhaps, for years more. That in itself would have brought more casualties than these bombings. Stop crying over the deaths of 7,000 Germans and French and look back at the 6,000,000 Jews, Gypsies, and people deemed "Unfit for living" by the Nazi regime. Look at the atrocities committed by these people you were fighting and thank God you were able to stop them
Howard Zinn is my favorite American historian. I am deeply saddened by his passing. This guy has been fighting for civil rights in this country even before 1960's. His book "A people's history of the United States" is a must-have for all Americans.
I was very sorry to hear about his passing. My condolences to his family and friends. Also, many thanks to Roy Tuckman of KPFK-FM 90.7 in L.A. for playing many of Howard's talks on your Wednesday midnight political shows. I learned so much from listening to people such as Howard Zinn, Michael Parenti, Dave Emery, etc.
A true hero, because he taught us, reminded us, that we all can be heroes.
Ill be the hero You can be the sidekick! Just kidding. You can make a change in the universe today anyone even a toddler or 400 pound man a poor guy Anyone! And everyone!
Vinnie Paz brought me here, like If he brought you to :)
How do you feel about portland/Seattle 2020
we're so fortunate to have had his presence (along with Noam Chomsky)
I love Howard Zinn ! Yes he was a beautiful being who had this Humanity and intellectual Honesty so rare to find in people . and the guts to address even to FBI members telling them they were acting as the secret police of a totalitarian state , as he did with the result of being badly beaten up by obedient servants of the state who never question orders given to them ! He was such a great exemple and a lesson by his own attitude and questionings ! as as a French , born after the war , I appreciate his honesty : as Michaêl Prysner recognizing that" the terrorist was himself " , as he had been programmed to be that made him realize it , the same way had Howard Zinn never dropped himself napalm , certainly questioning the fact of throwing this over people and questioning how they felt , and what was the use to do such things when the war was practically over , and it was not necessary to make extra hawful killings of people ! ...should bring more people to question .....what Deciding LEADERS who even request immunity for their deeds , NEVER QUESTION !
"we're not disturbing the peace, we're disturbing the war"
-Howard Zinn
Thank you for everything, Dr. Zinn.
Looks awesome. That man had a lot of wisdom to offer.
I went to Royan when I was 9 we took a ferry with my parents to go on holliday on the other side of the bay as to spare about an hour drive or more
What gave the late Howard Zinn credibility is he volunteered for war.
So COOOL!! I was working on setting up a Zinn playlist and 'Voila!' you've done it! Thank you!
AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE
@aaronsdavis He was a World War 2 bomadier, an integral part of the Civil Rights Movement, who saw and participated in some of the most important events of the 20th Century.. And you think he is naive? :P
Beautiful human being who the Creator/Redeemer Blessed up with!
if the baked bean industry collapsed do you think the government would be so quick to bail them out
@AtlasObjectivist Well, you got what you wanted. What you called for. Are you happy? Pleased with yourself? Proud of yourself?
@johnmacward The Russian revolution was stillborn. It died the moment the democratic Soviets were annulled. I have zero problem in condemning Lenin, Stalin, Stalinism, all of it. Because after 1920 none of it was Socialism and yet it carried the tag through several decades, doing a great deal of damage in the process. Lenin was the single greatest enemy of Socialism in the 20th Century.
@Meadras
Sometimes seeming cold and calculated really does put up a strong aura of pragmatism and common sense, but often times in history though some results are hidden and some results are obvious, we are not aware of all the facts and how things could have been in hypothetical situations. They're hypothetical. What we know are the bombs killed thousands in Hiroshima, and thousands in Nagasaki while Japanese were preparing their surrender. Bombing raids continued after the A-bombs.
@dillonfreed You've clearly missed the point and it has gone sailing over your head.
I'm sure u can 'see' a lot of things...
but there are a lot more that go into wars than bankers. bankers are not omnipotent players in this world: as you can clearly see by this 700 billion bailout- they need help too
@aaronsdavis A people would need to understand Socialism in order to reject it. I've rarely if ever met an American who did. The American idea of discussing the merits of Socialism was McCarthyism, that in itself tells you quite a bit.
@scorzeny45
You obviously don't know too much about Zinn then.
Howard Zinn, a man who really thinks.
your sins are forgiven howard.
What is the point of Zinn? That bombing is always bad? That war is always unjustified? That war is not kindergarden and people die there for no reason? As a German I can only reject his point of you. I'm glad that they bombed Germany to hell in the 1940s. It was the only fucking way to win this war. This or many more dead American soldiers. Ofc many innocent people died, but this was the fault of the Nazis alone. Bombing has to be justified and unfortunately this is not the case in Iraq today.
My logic is undeniable: Had we not nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan would not have surrendered - The war would have gone on, perhaps, for years more. That in itself would have brought more casualties than these bombings. Stop crying over the deaths of 7,000 Germans and French and look back at the 6,000,000 Jews, Gypsies, and people deemed "Unfit for living" by the Nazi regime. Look at the atrocities committed by these people you were fighting and thank God you were able to stop them