Crunchyroll Missed Context in Re:ZERO Episode 59
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- Crunchyroll's translation of Episode 59 of Re:Zero Starting Life in Another World raises concerns of missed reveal for fans.
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3:04 roy did call subaru brother before, but with different honorific. he called "hey onii-san, did you have grudge to us?" back on top of the city hall. but the differences is, here roy called julius "truly, nii-sama is always splendid as i imagined."
if you already been in the anime community for long time, you should understand that "-sama" is used to highly respect someone, while "-san" is just to respect someone. also, "onii-sama" only used by an actual siblings/adoptive siblings/someone who are really close, which caught julius off guard because he only met roy once and it was during the battle at city hall.
I don't remember where but there was also another mistranslation that either added or omitted a "not" so the sentence made direct opposite sense of what it was supposed to be
What is worse about the mistranslation is that THEY NEVER CHANGED IT FOR THE DUB. Like I checked out the Dub and the VA's poured their hearts out on the wrong script. It's so bad man.
For real
Insert my heart my soul meme
Is the dub of it out already? They drop the dub & sub the same day for Re:Zero?
I've noticed alot in subtitles they omit brother or sister when the character cleary says onii or onee san. Granted it was sometimes when the characters weren't related and were just being saying how close they feel towards the other or just playing, but you loose that when they leave it out of translation.
Yeah, it´s missing in a lot of anime. No idea why.
Often the spoken line will have "brother/sister", and the subs will just have their name, "he/she/etc.", or nothing.
You should blame English in this case, because in Japanese and other languages, words like “Onii” and “Onee” don’t have to mean being related. Just someone older in the respected gender. We don’t have a word like that in English. The closest would be something like “Bro” when you call your friend or someone who is slightly older. But obviously that doesn’t fit in this context either.
CR has mistranslated or missed translating something for every episode of Season 3. Ice (one of the Web Novel Translators and the Person you showed in the Video) has been correcting wrong translations for every episode of Season 3 Cour 1 and I don't see it not happening with Cour 2 either continuing.
3:27 I tested 3 different translators and all of them include “brother”. AI or machine translation is very literal and will translate every word more often than omitting words. I really believe this is a translator thing, ie. they are not paid enough to care or the person wasn’t deep into the LN to catch the nuances.
It’s also a language thing, as words like that aren’t common usage in English and I can see why they would translate to “you” instead for the casuals. Gluttony also refers to Subaru and others often as “nii-san” when they’re not related.
I watched it on a... shady... source, and it had the better translated version. I then saw it through a reactor who saw the Crunchyroll version. There was another big difference. On the version we saw, Rienhard makes it clear that the blessing of the phoenix is a one time save, but in the Crunchyroll version he just says he died and would rather not die again but doesn't say anything about the blessing being limited. It seriously changes the felt stakes in the fight he's currently going through with Cornilius. Honestly ridiculous that the paid official source for watching it has the worse translation than the pirate sites. If you're going to charge, you need a better product.
Actually, in that context the CR translation is more accurate, because Reinhard can always regain the blessing of the phoenix, like forever (this was stated by the author)
@@kingcrimson293 I wouldn't know, but can he regain it on the fly? Like mid combat right now? Or is it more like he has to go somewhere or perform some sort of ritual. I have no idea how these blessings work (and maybe shouldn't for the sake of spoilers).
@@Emilis2023 Honestly I'm a bit unsure myself, but when he received the blessing of judgment in episode 8 he basically gained it instantly so I'm assuming it would work the same with the Phoenix?
@@kingcrimson293Technically incorrect, the blessing of the phoenix is a one-time effect, no ifs or buts
This distinction is important, because it's a testament to how OP Reinhard is that he can just download the sequel instead to circumvent this limitation.
What "shady source" has the muse asia version?
best part Crunchyroll hasn't promoted Re:Zero until reactions started showing up yesterday
Crunchyroll doesn't care about the fans
Pirate Sites actually do care because they are real fans
also Crunchyroll is stealing your data
the mistranslation also happen on muse asia channel, but it just 2 minor errors like otto should be saying "the gluttony at city hall" but the translation says "the gluttony i saw" and lye introduced as greed instrad of gluttony lol.
but for comparison, the crunchyroll one is a major mistake compared to the muse translation. some people are missing out that joshua has already eaten by gluttony.
I'll have to rewatch the episode, cos I'm sure I missed some things. Yeah, I got the impression Gluttony was imitating Julios' brother. Gruesome, and weird, if Gluttony did Joshua dirty off screen. Where was Joshua supposed to be, was he even in the city?
This seems to be the first time we see this "ability" in the anime. Does this mean we will see Gluttony reference Rem's memories? Subaru will have to confront this guy.
Bruh: Julios and Wolf-Guy using each other's real names in front of Gluttony had me pressed. Why? We just gotta assume Gluttony wouldn't hear them!?
I hope these issues don't make their way into the physical release. I dropped Crunchyroll back when they removed the last vestiges of community interaction from their site, so I want to support my favorite shows by purchasing them on bd when they become available. I've already got the first two seasons of Re;Zero, and I don't want to see this release sullied by bad translations.
I have to say, on the spanish subs it does say brother. Not big brother, but just brother. I wanted to add something to the thread. Crunchyroll needs to step up the game.
Its not crunchyroll fault this time, at least not entirely. They got sent 3 different scripts with a lot of revisions. CR translated the first script correctly but didn't update it because they changed it quite a lot of time. I assume Tappei himself also had his hand in this mess.
I would love to give them the benefit of the doubt but they have did similar stuff with a lot of shows. One show on crunchyroll i am pretty sure i have seen at least 2 mistranslations for each episode that has aired
You’d expect if you pay for a streaming service there would be no to little errors while translating it but having seen it happen time and time again on crunchy I’m loosing all hope. No wonder people are stoping paying for their crunchy subscriptions and going to other sites
At least in the dub, Gluttony does say bro alot, at least Roy does
When did Otto meet Roy?
I was just thinking wait he said "Aniki" and english and portuguese subs was just wrong that's sad
Crunchyroll is definitely using a translator app. Even in another show i watched yesterday, its one about the greatest alchemist. Episode 6 has a horse that the MC names “Tsubaki” and yet they translated it as Camelia even though its a name and shouldnt get translated.
That and the “might as well master magic” when fighting a golem and the princess gives directions to beat it, crunchyroll mistranslated that as well.
They have done it in so many shows that its disappointing to see better subs on pirate sites because i have tried to stay away from those and actually pay but how can someone want to pay for this level of “quality”
Maybe crunchyroll is using AI to translate
There have been strong hint of crunchyroll "translator" only using software translation, and even bragging they never learned japanese or have any japanese reading capability
That’s the point the video was making.
@ It's the thing with corporate America now. Every one wants things automated. People losing jobs to automation.
@@MrGrandBarbu Unfortunately AI aren't good at interpreting context. A lot of Japanese are not literal but context and situational when translating.
That’s such a dumb take, if it was actually AI, then it would say “Brother”
No reason AI would change it.
cruncyroll is mad with subtitles right now , in greatest alchemist of all time they decided to translare every name they know how. japanese say kaede, translators write maple, japanese va's say tsubaki, they write camelia. i don't know if they power flexing with those wrong translations or just don't care
i know that this is a bit different because those names as regular words would get translated, but who the hell translate names. Next we get john libert or they intentionaly pick wrong meaning if some words can have more than one.
I sort of understand, I´ve seen names translated in books quite a bit. (English to Czech.) Some kinda work, and some are absolutely horrible. (Usually pun names are what makes it or breaks it.) if I didn´t know better, it wouldn´t bother me. Hell, I even use an english version of my own name. John (Jan).
But yeah, it really doesn´t work when you can actually *HEAR* what the original name is supposed to be. Takes you right out of the moment.
@@johnyshadow jeah john might be a wrong example because it is a name going back in history and most languages has it's own version, but i am still confused by how names of the characters are translated if autio uses last and subtitles first names and now they starting to change even that
@@kokodin5895 I agree it´s not a great example. Though it reminds me of the anime Bofuri, where the MC Kaede names her character Maple. (in-universe) Anyway...
I wonder if part of the problem is that they are only translating the written script first, then just syncing it with the audio/video.
But I don´t want to make too many excuses for them.
@@johnyshadow yes bufori was intentional but i think maple was also writen phonetically in game
i see a bigger problem with some younfg anime fans who defend it because maple is cuter than kaede and i think that might be also a version from simuldubs
It is television type localisation all over again.
They do this all the time with translations
I was watching S2 of Ishura and the sub is a complete mess, the characters say one thing and the translation says a completely different thing. It's just bad
In Spanish they translated it well.
For real in Spanish not good English
as a french/english bilingual that makes me curious if the CR sub/dub are better in french
edit: yes they do say big brother
When you cant trust subs or dubs you might as well watch anime raw
I mean... you're right, and it seems from comments that I assume have read ahead in the manga that it *is* meant to be a reveal... but it is also *very* common to call an unrelated young man 'brother' (more so in anime than in real life). If you don't already know it's an important reveal, it's pretty natural to convert it to 'you' because honestly, even if it is an actual relationship, we don't normally go around calling our brothers "brother" to their face. Should the translator have read the entire manga in the original Japanese before translating the anime so that they would know that it *is* an important reveal? Well.... in theory. But honestly, they aren't paid for that, or well enough to do it in their free time if it wasn't already on their reading list.
Now, the 別人 as 'another name' ... that's just a straight up wrong. It can only mean 'a different person'. I find that much more unforgivable because even if it is less important, there's no justifying it.
As far as I know, it is common to call strangers onii-san, but Roy specifically called Julius onii-sama, which is reserved for genuine family members. It's the little things that end up being rather significant in terms of storytelling and foreshadowing, so to miss something like this when the author intentionally put it in as a hint is a shame. I've never been a fan of Crunchyroll honestly, and this just keeps me even further away.
It’s not “more common in anime”, that’s literally how Japanese people use the word, to describe someone older. English doesn’t have a good substitute for that and I guess Crunchyroll ways of dumbing it down for the casuals is to localize the word “Nii” to “You”.
I am certain CR uses AI in their translations. And not the helmeted kind.
100% machine translated
ye low effort low qua;lity translation is just a waste of money/subscription
Who cares
@@joedonis7329 I do
Ah yes, let's excuse a Multi Million Dollar company mistranslating one of their high profile Series on the regular for each episode of S3 that released till now...
People that expect high quality content for their money.
When people are paying for a service, they expect that service to be of a certain quality?
Gasp.
How dare they!
@@BaleygrGrace uhhh ya it’s called the jujutsu Kaisen translator or the one piece translator Japanese doesn’t translate one to one to English my guys