A Coffee Design Classic: The Braun KF20
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Love the period appropriate cup, that's perfect
Now I see why that was in the AliExpress haul!
Came here to say the same thing
Very appropriate for Brazilian housewares
The delivery of that "no" after all that buildup was so perfect
And we all knew it was coming.
By chance I recently picked up an old Braun coffee grinder at the thrift store for a few bucks. Now, this thing is a design classic, drawn up by an associate of Dieter Rams himself. One of its siblings was shown in the MoMA. These things will go for a hundred dollars plus online.
The grounds it produces? 50% dust. But damn if it doesn't look good doing it.
It's a handsome machine. From the thumbnail, I thought it was a new product, not a 50 year old product! It would look good in my kitchen....
Yeah I thought it was brand new as well
breaks my heart when good looking products are mediocre
I'm really upset that 1970 was 50+ years ago...
The only thing that gives it away is the power switch
The orange and green were quite popular in the 70s (although brown is most notable)
Its minimalist aesthetic still holds up. It's a shame the coffee it makes doesn't.
If it was white, it would have a cult behind it already
the coffee is fine, James is just into his pseudoscience.
@@acex222 lol, pseudoscience? Are you suggesting the variables that go into coffee brewing are arbitrary? Have you ever brewed decent coffee?
@@Drspoe maybe he doesn’t know what pseudoscience is
@@acex222 So a subjective opinion of how something tastes is pseudoscience now?
If you look around on TH-cam, there’s a whole video by this guy named James on how to get better coffee out of a standard drip machine 😊
I've been following a guy called Hames. He seems to have some good guides there too
They're quite different though. Hames always comes directly to the point.
They are often confused because they are identical twins. James -- being the younger one -- always aspired to achieve the sheer brilliancy of his older brother Hames. His brotherly feud fueled his obsessive coffee endeavors, but alas, as everything else Hames does, it outshadowed James' work. Pure vigor, disgust, and jealousy filled his lightly-brown aptly-marked "James" paper bag. And so, James "James" Hoffman got to work. Training his palette with bad coffee after bad coffee he finally understood and reached nirvana on Hames' brilliance. James burst out a squeal of joy! An underbreath whisper of the coffee-oli secret recipe could be heard: 'short, concise, and funny facial expressions.'
So is the story of James "paperbag" Hoffman. He now peacefully resides (retired) in a shack located somewhere by the shores of dover; being careful to bubble his bripe with the frequency of the waves.
@@vokay that's one heck of a poetic diss... And I love it.
@@vokay That's one hell of a read!
Florian Seiffert! The salt & pepper hair with the wave, the epic moustache, the designer glasses, love of coffee machine aesthetics & design!... Is he Hames Joffmann's long lost father!?
Salt and pepper?
_,,It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up! magazine_
*_Salt-n-Pepa_*_ and Heavy D up in the limousine_
_Hangin' pictures on my wall_
_Every Saturday Rap Attack, Mr. Magic, Marley Marl"_ 📀🎶
(Biggie Smalls - Juicy)
Trivia: a KF20 was used as set dressing in the galley of the Nostromo in the 1979 film Alien.
I noticed it the other day but thought it was plumbing pieces on top of a coffee pot!
Funny how this made it into my recommendations not too long after the Xenomorph became a killer in Dead by Daylight (I do like coffee as well though)
I’ve used this machine for ages and while it isn’t amazing, it’s definitely just as good as any other drip coffee I’ve had. For most of us out there we wouldn’t know much of a difference.
Yeah, drip brews just tend to have a very distinctive taste. It's not my thing at all, but, e.g., my mother prefers them over pour-over brews, because for her, it's what she expects coffee to taste like, and a smooth specialty coffee tastes just "weird" and unexpected to her - missing the bitter bite that she thinks a coffee should have.
@@berlinflight_tv - that continental breakfast smooth paper filter flavour.. Homely for millions.
Well I mean, I dont think James had one of those flying around at home, so he might just bought a used one and I dont wanna know if that thing was ever cleaned properly. Pretty sure somthing like that has major influence on the taste.
I was transported back in time to a caravan park on the Scottish coast for a minute...
They are still in use here in Scotland, time hasn’t moved much since 72’ in some parts, believe me 😅
Coast?
,,Boasty, boasty, house on the coast G
My money so long it doesn't know me" 🎶
(Idris Elba ft. Wiley - Boasty)
@@walnutsandbeastiality866
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@@i-love-comountains3850 I'm leaning English by using movie quotes and lyrics lol
@@walnutsandbeastiality866
Oh nice! That's very helpful, subtitles are such a great way to learn other languages.
Braun should bring it back with improvements to the brewing!
(improved shower head and lift pump - get the temps the connoisseurs demand.)..
OMG, we used to have this one!!!! It used to make pretty bad coffee, but you can always use it to make bad tea instead!
I love the design, and drip is still my favorite coffee method.
i got one from my grandparents when i moved out 20 years ago and i still use this in the garage. this is probably the first designer thing i own
I had one of these in red for years before it finally died. I thought the coffee was pretty good, but this was still in the days of Peet's being the best you could get. I remember the crowds of old hippies hanging outside of the Berkeley original Peet's around the corner from Chez Panisse, riding on their caffeine high.
Peets is still very good
You have the most relaxing voice ever. Please do audio-books.
Oh but he already did! :D
I used to have this one. It was from my grandmother
Can remember that machine really well as a kid my parents and grandparents had that machine back in the 80‘s
Was really hopeful there for most of this vid
We had one of these at home. Loved the design. Chatted with my parents about this machine the other week.
dream piece.
Braun is excellent! I still use my Braun KM 3 food processor from 1957 and it‘s doing a great job
That color and finish are gorgeous!
I'm seen a lot of plastic in many coffee brewers (even nowadays, take aeropress as an example). Does anyone care about the presence of endocrine disruptors in them? Such as phtalates or bisphenols. They will leak out of the plastic with hot temperatures and get into the coffee. Maybe you should review this topic in future videos for people that don't know about the hazards of these chemicals.
I have the late 80s version of this, still works. Strongly doubt my coffee would illicit a different response though.
Braun was making beautiful products during that time period. Great designers and engineers.
My son watches your videos with me so he knows who you are. Apparently, he doesn’t know your name because he just asked me to watch one of those “John Soffman” videos. Ha ha 😂 I’m dying.
Sup Zach! Small world!
Hey Kevin!! I have been watching James’ videos for a while. Its not everyday that you run into someone you know in the TH-cam comments!
Who you two?
Who us two? Who you?
@@ZacharyPittman good question.
This looks to be inspire in a brazilian water filter invented in 1920 called "Filtro de São João". It was made of clay and the factory was called "Cerâmica Lamparelli.
That coffee maker is beautiful!
I love that coffee maker.
It looks like minifigs from lego
I want that so much
Dope Lego piece
“And all you had to do was hit brew!” So simple it even rhymes
Love the expression after tasting.
By contrast, the technivorm moccamaster has been made exactly the same since they originally released it and it still makes great coffee.
Dear James, could you voice your opinion on "Polish coffee"? It occurs to me that the way we Poles traditionally make our coffee (grounds into a tall glass, poured over with hot water and left to settle before drinking) is apparently unique. I'd be happy to know if you ever in your years of experience came upon something similar, maybe called a different way, maybe in another country?
There is a variant called the French press. It is similar to what you describe except that after letting the coffee sit in the water you then separate the coffee grounds from the liquid with a filter attached to a plunger. Popular in English speaking countries and made in Denmark. Not sure why they call it French press.
Had one but with the power switch under the tray, almost electrocuting me when the water pipe rotted through and I wanted to power it on🤣🤣🤣 because the bare mains wires were next to those heaterpipes…
Braun is the king of design and function for appliances
holy moly… we had one of those. the sound when you let it run just threw me way back into our morning kitchen, my dad making his breakfast…
I enjoy watching coffee enthusiasts explaining the art of brewing and the science behind all of it. That being said, my favorite coffee either comes from Wawa or out of my black and decker pot from home depot.
It belongs in a museum!
🤠
I’ve wanted one of these for almost a decade at this point 😭 jealous
That would look amazing as a decorative piece in an home office.
Very nice and minimalistic design.
The 1970s were truly the swan-song era of ergonomic design. Even coffee machines respected ones eyes and aesthetic sensibilities.
Different time different focus. What we have learned about coffee brewing has changed how to brew a good cup of coffee
ngl, Florian Seiffert looks like an aged-up Moustache James (Makita/in-car brewers), especially with those glasses.
he should do movember and see how close he looks
I thought he looked like Matthew McConaughey in disguise…
I love the look of this! I would purchase this!
could you modify it with new internals and keep the aesthetic? that would be a really interesting video in my opinion
I have a Braun electric bean grinder from that era. Still functions great.
I hope there will be a full video on this. Looks really cool!
think him saying that it is a museum piece is a hard no.
Colour is perfect to match the kitchen of my childhood house also! 😂👌😉
James does a great job with costumes.
I was just on vacation and I used a Braun coffee maker from the late 80s to early 90s, since my mother-in-law does not drink coffee. I must say that I did not find the coffee to be appauling, but I drank better.
Awesome -- please check out an older French-made Krups F468 MokaBrew. If you run the heater 2 seconds on and 4 seconds off, you get an amazing result that the new models don't match. I'm still regretting having given mine to a friend when I moved. :(
Had it in my childhood home.
Big fan of your historical coffee articles, I had one of these with a Braun burr style coffee grinder KMM1 from the same era designed by Reinhold Weiss.
Any plans to do one on the iconic Atomic espresso machine?
Their watches are design icons too and they still tell the time as well as they did decades ago!
Still would look amazing on my counter❤
I've an old Black and Decker auto-drip. BAsically works the same way. I find that if I remove the carafe during the first 30s or so while it brews and give the ground a few stirs and then reinsert, the quality improves noticeably (sometimes I make a mess, though)
Funny design !!! It looks exactly like a giant LEGO piece 😅😂🤣😭 for real ❤️🥰❤️
crazy how good looking some of Braun designs are. Wish they still made new watches too.
I think I remember that we had one of those! Those were the days when things were made to last a lifetime! Our Miele oven lastet over 30 years and those Braun coffee makers and toasters also were made as if to survive a nuclear war!
So sad that things nowadays are build to break after the guarantee for them had run out!
It is soooo cool
Would love a proper drip machine with this design. Very clean.
Love the AliExpress mug
That’s a cool ass machine! Love it 😍
I’m quite sure that this was the coffeemaker people had in their condos at Marina City in 1972.
Braun had some solid industrial design.
I'm using a "museum piece" as my daily driver, and it's still the best espresso maker available. So much so, in fact, that hipster upstarts have started making knock-offs based on it and selling them for large prices.
It's a La Pavoni Europiccola, of course, from 1976 and maintained for daily use.
I had one of those. Completely rebuilt it. It was like brand new. I could never get a single drinkable shot out of it for the 4 years I owned it. I'm 100% sure it was me and not the machine. It and I just didn't gel well. Shame too cause it was beautiful. Half brass, half chrome, I even turned wooden handles for it myself. I use a Silvia with a PID on it now and it's much much better for me, but it's not pretty...at all.
It'd be interesting for those with the maker know-how to mod a brewer this up to specialty coffee spec.
I love the facial expression on your first sip! That said it all for me ha ha.
We had a red one i remember as a kid thinking it was a fine looking machine
Can you imagine you much tech you can fit into a device of this size in this age? I could see this as an automated pour over machine like the xbloom studio but much smaller and available in a variety of colors.
Using a museum piece as intended tickles my fancy :D
JH rating an average coffee machine is like Gordon Ramsey doing drive through food reviews
What a beautiful machine. Machine drip coffee sucks though, this model would work best as an exhibition piece.
I didn’t know this brand where designer! Had it trough childhood, dad always brewed coffee on it in the morning 😂 he later got nespresso thought
a quick rabbit hole search who knew Gerd A Muller worked for Braun for a time (designer of the Lamy CP1, Lamy 2000) and one of Florian Seiffert's takes homage to one of Gerd's shavers
So we're just gonna ignore the Inventor's magnificent, glorious moustache
Please you have to review the Ascaso steel duo PID coffee machine. There are a lot of discussions around the internet about this machine being the destruction of boiler espresso machines. The only review I would trust is yours. (You are the one who literally taught me to make good espresso).
that coffee maker is still gorgeous
I'm sure I wouldn't have any complaints about the coffee.
Yep, he has abit of a refined taste in coffee. 🤓☝️
That's great content. Keep it going James 👌👌
Omg this coffee maker is gorgeous!! Aside from that, couldn't you adjust the grind to compensate the way it extracts? I kinda do that when using my regular not-that-gorgeous drip coffee maker
who else thought james was just reposting constantly and then realized they were just scrolling the few yt shorts he has, looping back to the beginning, and then scrolling all the way through, looping back, and doing the same thing over and over again
Looks like a Lego persons head! Lovely design classic
I find a lot of these drip machines improve, if you leave some water in the can, so the first drops of coffee don't burn...
It’s so pretty though :)
That was class… I was awaiting that look of distaste before it even happened 😂
I would pay so much money for this style
I was kind of hopeful when I 1st started watching --seeing the water on top of the coffee . I thought it would brew at an appropriate temperature. to me, the big problem with "coffee makers" is that they need to heat the water too much (boiling) to get it pumped up from below the grounds to over the grounds --resulting in burned coffee taste.....
Form over function, it looks awesome still from the time of gastronomic delights like chicken in a basket or things in aspic jelly
That design has potential. Is there an automatic espresso machine with this concept? Imagine having a removable coffee grinder in there.
You can also see it in the first Alien film. It can be seen in the background in the canteen kitchen, two of them and they are white.
Getting used to the lingo of a daily driver for brewing, but what would you consider to be a methods of brewing that aren't really daily drivers? Maybe a new video idea?
That's an easy one: Chemex. Makes absolutely fantastic coffee, but it's abysmally slow. I'll use it on the weekend when I'm not in a hurry, but weekdays is V60.
I feel like a re-go of this would work well
I need that cup. Where can I cup!? Good gravy please! I NEED THAT CUP!!
I have a monstrosity of a device for you to test. I bought it out of sheer curiosity. I honestly don’t know how they came up with this device. Id gladly send you mine. It’s the 8 Cup Convenient Craft™ Automatic or Manual Pour-Over Coffee Brewer from Hamilton Beach.
It is time for the 70’s to come back. Flowered wallpaper and all…
😂 this made me laugh. Good one James 👍👌