Can just be lots and lots of guts. I think you're thinking of torture genre. There is a difference. Terrifier kind of goes into both categories at the same time being fun. It feels like an 80s slasher film where it makes it fun to watch.
The movie made me uncomfortable in a good way. Sometimes movies that tester limits are a good thing. This movie achieve that and made it entertaining at the same time.
I thought the original Art was good. However David Howard Thornton is Leaps and Bounds better than the original actor. I met the actor who played art the clown David Howard Thornton he's awesome.
Terrifier is fine but im just so tired of all of the promotional material solely being "we have a scene so scary people were puking, crying, and shitting in the theaters!?!?!!" edit: im not trashing the movies, ive never seen them and i understand everything id subjective. im just talking about the marketing
That's part of why I avoid these movies like the plague despite being someone who writes torture. If that's your number one selling point, then that's just telling me you're trying to be as shocking as possible and as the other replied said, super edgy. It almost reminds me of those mobile ads where it's like "only 1% of the population can handle this!"
@@abhainn35 don’t let the promos steer you away, sure the movies are super gory. But they don’t take themselves seriously. Especially in the third. It’s more like it’s being so extra it’s hilarious, and they’re very self aware about it
When I went to go see the 3rd move, a family of 4 with LITTLE KIDS came into the theater during a kill, but it must have been a mix-up in room numbers bc the mom immediately whisper-yelled “Wrong room, let’s go” to her kids- one of them stayed behind for a good 2 minutes before scampering off- they look NO OLDER THAN 6..💀💀💀
I think terrified has its place in horror, but it runs into the problem that saw had. Basically you can only do so much gory blood and guts before people just get jaded by it and stop caring.
but the difference between both films is that saw has been going for TWENTY YEARS. having ELEVEN MOVIES and a very very very confusing but VERY much there plot terrifier has only 3 movies so far; you barely see their deaths coming and the lore forces you to actually dig DEEP to understand ANY of it, eventually, yes, people will get tired by the gore, but if saw can make it through 11 movies, terrifier can last just as long while keeping shock value
what a stupid argument. just say you don't find it fun. by your argument then gory movies would never "do anything" because I've seen one before. it's not a drug addiction that makes me want something more and something stronger i just want to have fun. i think you're watching movies for the wrong reasons
I bet some movie directors considered doing movies on Jeff The Killer at one moment, I don't know why but I'm certain (Btw can we talk about how TERRIBLE is this creepypasta ? I've rarely seen something that bad). And for me Art is a combination of Luna Ghost design (very similar and somehow different at the same time, I feel like Luna Ghost (from Scooby-Doo 2002 btw) looks like a alternative universe Art, its hard to explain but I think you'll got it if you check at Luna's picture), Jason powers and like Chucky's sadism (or Freddy Krueger's)
He looks soo similar to laughing jack I actually never got that out of my mind. Like this movie ‘s (1st one) script probably would’ve made it on wattpad in 2012 as a creepypasta and gotten popular lmao
Difference is that 15yo creepy pasta authors are dead serious while Terrifier is tounge in cheek and self aware. It's half tribute to, half parody of slasher movies. The author doesn't claim to have some deep messaging or complex characters in it.
I admire the cinematography but terrifier 2 just p*ssed me and my friends off😭 the ratio of time given to female torture and male was so obvious, theres a line to be crossed
girl what r u yappin abt😭 the kills were pretty balanced sex wise. u saying the ratio was off jus shows u weren’t into the movie and just wanted to dissect it to build ur own narrative. weird
They make up for that in 3 for sure 😉 (As a dude, the d*ck being torn off, and the scene in Terrifyer 3 REALLY got to me) Genital mutilation stuff on both ends get me queezy lol.
I find it odd that people call the first film “transphobic”. like the guy is an evil psychopath, even if he did do something explicitly transphobic, he’s not supposed to be likeable anyways, he’s literally the villain, I mean that’s like saying Damien Leone wants to brutally murder people because he makes movies about brutal murder, just because it happens in something a person made does not mean it aligns with that person’s beliefs. also the marketing team basically lied about David Howard Thornton almost puking on set. they made it sound like there was a scene that was so grotesque that it almost brought “Art the Clown himself to becoming nauseous”, when in reality (or so I’ve heard) the real reason was just because of some kinda phobia he had relation to the scene in question. I think it was rats but correct me if I’m wrong.
In an interview, David said the only scene that genuinely kind of bothered him and made him nauseous to do was the tube rat scene, because of the puke. Idk if he genuinely almost hurled, but he said it definitely got him
Bad guy does bad thing so that doesn't condone thing only goes so far. Because if the framing itself is "ew gross a transperson" and the horror and uncomfortability is meant to come from them being trans... it's still transphobic.
The lady in the first movie with the baby doll is played by a trans actor, with her character being depicted as a completely cis woman. She chose herself what she wanted the character to be like, and they were glad to let her! As someone who lives in a transphobic community, if they were transphobic they would have done a lot worse.
I have a hard time taking the director seriously when he claims that r*pe is "too far" and "Art would never do that" when the chainsaw murder is an homage to older slasher post/during coitus death scenes that emphasize the penetration of the victim. He tries to have it both ways by pretending he's a scholar of slasher and splatter films and then acting like his scenes aren't doing what they are clearly doing, in the context of films in these genres. It's also absurd for him to claim he doesn't show children being brutally murdered when the teens in 2 are literally children. Once again, he tried to have it both ways, and him claiming that it would be too disturbing, given how the entire point of the gore in these films is to be disturbing... Maybe he thinks his arguments make sense, but to me they ring as hollow as his asserting that his weirdly 50s tinged views on men and women's roles is the reason why he films things the way he does. Sounds exactly like someone who holds misogynistic views being called out and appealing to an imagined archetype as their defense of said views. Sure the plot is literally there, however Warhammer 40k has a plot (or more precisely a narrative) but the only reason it does is to sell toys... Which... Given the amount of things you can buy associated with this franchise.... Yeah, the mere presence of a cohesive narrative doesn't mean it's not simply there to prop up death scenes. That being said: if someone wants to make splatter films... That's what they should do, I used to watch them a lot myself, but for me, it came to a point where there's really no tension in most films like this, and tension is the real powerhouse of horror, the terrifier franchise feels like I'm watching a Cannibal Corpse album, as a film, and the thing about that is, Cannibal Corpse is only scary for people who don't want to listen to them. Since I'm cool with it, it's just a repetition of the signifiers of fear, without any actual fear occuring. The end sequence of the original "Wicker Man" is easily like ten times more distressing on an emotional level than the madcap splatter of terrifier, even though I can appreciate the F/X masterpieces that they are, it just feels like a fun house ride. And perhaps that's intentional and has deeper meaning (in a more meta sense) than I'm giving credit but, I just don't care ultimately. The films just don't compel me into caring that much. The phenomena of people watching it, and their fascination with it, is much more interesting to me. And so I enjoyed this video quite a lot.
Yeah that part didnt make much sense. He says that r*pe "distrubs him", but like does that mean that he doesnt find all the other things in the movie disturbing? Idk really how to explain but it just feels really forced and scummy
Older slashers don't depict rape either, I take Terrifier as a continuation of like Nightmare on Elm St and Hellraiser and Friday the 13th, it would be as out of place as if Jason started raping someone, that's not the character
It's strange to say he isn't sexual, while he repeatidly target sexual part (dicks and breasts) as well as the chainsaw scene that just... Well there isn't a way to say it isn't sexual in anyway. But saying "r*ape is too far" while having theses scenes feel like a straight lie or just a way to shield form critics.
See, my issue with the movies isn’t the movies themselves as much as it is the way they’re talked about online. A lot of grandstanding about how if you don’t like the movies you don’t “get it” and are either too stupid or too much of a coward to be a horror fan in general.
Realest thing ever, I’ve seen half of 1 and a bit of 3 with my friends. We honesty, found it so boring, and the culture around the movies suck. There’s so many people around me thinking they are “different” and “edgy” because they find it fun and entertaining. I can withstand gore but it ain’t fun watching it
exactly, while i love the franchise i also don't like to watch gore, i often watch right up to when it happens then skip the actual details of the kill. But unfortunately, a certain type of terrifier fans like to dog on people who simply refuse to watch because of that aspect, like somehow they're superior because they enjoy that sort of stuff. I also dislike the way the movies are promoted, i understand shock sells, but if they keep marketing the franchise as "omg 5 people walked out and puked and shit everywhere because of this scene" then they cannot be surprised when they keep attracting cringe edgelords into their fandom.
@@月月月月-p5gdude nobody else feels the same way when I said the first two were boring, but you get it. The biggest problem these movies have is the bloated run time. They should be an hour and a half at max, but instead they’re two and a half hours and by the end you’re just glad it’s over and feel like you got your time wasted.
@@onesaucynougat7471 it was so boring to watch it. Ppl in my math class were watching 3 and out of boredom I joined in. It was over2 hours long, and what’s crazy to me is how anyone is entertained by this shit. It’s crazy. I understand the appeal with shock value or wt r but god damn is it boring.
nobody has ever once said you're stupid . give me a break. it's "not for you" and that's OK but ive never seen anybody gatekeeping terrifier for 'intelligent' ppl. save that for ari aster fans or some other arthouse horror director
One detail I wanted to point out is that the homeless lady's doll in the first film was named Emily, and the little girl that the pale girl is imitating was named Emily Crayne. My theory is that Art had killed that woman's daughter in the past which drove her crazy.
@@crazydud3380 i think its more the people making it can do horrific gore, but find a woman not looking perfect isnt fit for tv- absoloute bs if you ask me
@sophiefdez Oh it is. My point was really more that nearly every movie and TV show is guilty of it. I mean, everyone in period pieces tends to have perfect teeth, which certainly isn't accurate.
terrifier fans will switch from "yeah i watch this sort of thing for fun, sorry if you cant handle it 😎😎" to having screaming matches in response to the slightest criticism and then wonder why people don't like them
THANK YOU. I see it all the time. They love to insist the films aren't overhyped but "overhated". Overhated by who exactly? WHO? I can't find a single person online that says anything remotively negative about these films.
Where do you even meet all "these people"? The movie came and went to lukewarm reception. Dunno what all this supposed controversy is. It's a B-grade movie that made it into the A-grade theatre slots. End of story.
This is why I don't interact with the fandom, I just liked the movies, but I thought "Wow, the fans are really simping for the killer, I sense a toxic fandom." Ignorance is bliss
One thing that i notice is that theres a lot of terrifier fans who ask "why do people only think these movies are only gore?!" When its due to how these movies present themselves, most slasher present themselves with fear as the focus, fear of the slasher, while these movies present themselves as goofy gorefest especially with the "people who watch this film puke lol" and "watch the goofy clown kill the guy for a while" and with the first film just being that exact thing and nothing else it mainly only attracts big horror fans, and the the "I watch gore for fun 🤓" crowd, the ladder of which also repeats the same sentiment
@notgonnapay I said most slashers, exceptions like child's play and nightmare on elm Street exist but they focus on their comedic monster scaring a bunch of teens or kids
@@deathseekr1537 Even Elm Street focuses on the fear, just in a different way. Freddy is all about fear, he just takes things less seriously than silent killers like Jason or Michael
Okay but why can't we have a goofy gorefest? I just wanna see a killer clown go fucking mental for a couple hours, if I want a slow burn psychological thriller I can go find a hundred. We're running out of good old grindhouse splatter films, and Terrifier 1 was perfect. It knew what it was and didn't try to be anything else. Terrifier 2 is about a little girl getting superpowers from her halloween costume and beating a demon with daddys love. If that is too edgy for you I don't understand how you are alive in the world right now. Just because gory movies gross you out doesn't mean everybody else who likes them is a prick going "look how cool I am for watching this" we just don't get pissy when we see it like you do. People hate to realize that they can't handle something, so they blame the thing and the people who like it instead of accepting their own limits. Another point, how exactly are you supposed to make a horror film about a guy who kills people without being edgy? What people seem to want is a convoluted backstory about why the killer is just a misunderstood sadboy they can draw sexy fanart of but that's not scary. I'm not afraid of mopey traumatized humans I'm afraid of invincible sadists who don't feel pain or empathy. That's great for a character study about a troubled individual but I didn't buy a ticket to Joker I bought a ticket to Clown Kills People The Movie and there's nothing wrong with wanting a couple hours of dumb meaningless fun
@@thatfunkadeus Those articles about people puking and fainting in theaters, though they garnered a ton of publicity for the filmmakers, were awful for the fans' reputation. People liken Terrifier to films like Saw, Hostel, and even A Serbian Film despite having nothing in common with them besides the explicit gore. If anything, I’d compare it with Italian Giallo, such as Dario Argento’s Suspiria, or The Church.
The fact nobody is likening Art's obvious shift from being a living person to being a deathless demonic entity upon his actual demise to Jason Voorhees, who shares the same arc, is genuinely shocking and disappointing.
I really like the portrayal of trauma in Terrifier 3. The way it shows both sides, one trying to move on and one who's stuck, is pretty damn accurate. It was also shown that Johnathan takes paroxetine, which is medication used for depression (mainly), which is something that would def be affecting both of the kids. I love it.
The terrifier series is essentially just splatterpunk, but movie edition. Which I have no issue with, sometimes I enjoy it, but people gotta remember, not everyone is gonna like certain genres and vice versa. All I say is, if you don’t like something? Read the tags/warnings, and avoid it.
Thats how it used to be in the past that the people that liked something enjoyed it and the people that dont like it just avoided it but nowadays in the west if some people really dont like something then the people that like it are usually not allowed to enjoy it anymore.
@@sofiipote7 The difference is that most of the time in the past even if people complained about something the companys did it anyway but nowadays if people complain about stuff then the companys usually dont want to do it anymore. TV shows, movies, cartoons, video games and comics used to make fun of the people that complained about these kind of things all the time but now they are scared of those people instead. The companys also used to care about profit and earning money the most but these days being politically correct is usually even more important to them even if they would earn way more money if they did not care about that stuff. And it was in the 2010s it became the way things are like right now so we had the internet long before it became the way things are like nowadays.
@shawnsells7 it was a free screening for tester audiences and they dont reveal the name of the movie till you sit down, they mislead audiences on what the movie would be to get more shocked audience reactions
As a Catholic, I really appreciate the religious themes. Sienna is very much a Christ figure and Terrifier 3 is very much the passion she undergoes. Demons will always try to mock and belittle God, but as Terrifier 3 shows, the Holy and good will always prevail.
Actually kind of mad at the retelling of one of the funnier horror movie jokes in recent time: Tara doesnt just run away and gets shot a few times. After several attempts of fighting back against art she finally gets the upper hand, grabs a plank of wood from the ground and starts beating the living piss out of him. Giving the audience a slight shimmer of hope at her becoming the final girl and managing to defeat the killer, she prepares herself to finish the mime with the makeshift weapon. Art on his knees, beaten down and almost shivering pulls a glock from his sock like he is John Wick and shots her. Perfect comedic timing, perfect acting from Thornton
That scene turned the tide on how I was feeling about the movie. I was ready to throw it in the trash bin, but then Art pulling out his trusty gat out of desperation made me laugh so hard. Thornton really is the saving grace of that first movie.
It’s less that it’s “problematic” and more that the first Terrifier feels like being edgy for edgelord’s sake. At least personally, the first movie falls into the pitfall of a lot of slashers falls into: there’s not much substance beyond “what if the character got killed dead and it was really bloody and cringe inducing”. 2 and 3 are a step in the right direction, but I don’t blame someone who doesn’t want to give them a chance because 1 was too much for them
This is how I felt about it at first until I really considered the meaning of why the choices were even made about what would be edgy. Then I realized how problematic I personally found it. I think stuff being try hard edgy is really usually a way of expressing problematic views without taking responsibility or realizing it about yourself But that's just where I've ended up on this
Everything is “edgy” nowadays. But, I’m pretty sure why people liked Terrifer was because for one, Art isn’t a misunderstood villain character. He’s evil to be evil. No sob story. Two, the blood and gore. Even more with the other movies. Not everything needs to be “substance” to be entertaining. Some people like to shut off their brains, and enjoy what’s in the screen. It’s literally splatterpunk.
@bimates2690 saying people don't wanna think and just wanna shut off their brain to watch women get tortured and have a good time isn't really the argument you think it is
A lot of people were disturbed by the shower scene. I grew up watching a lot of Texas chainsaw so it didn’t really bother me, but the FUCKING BOX CUTTER scene actually made me puke, and it was the first time I ever puked during a horror movie
The bedroom scene of 2 made me a little icked out. Human Centipede was my first real shock movie and that was the first and only real time I almost got sick watching it and that was cause my mom didn't actually tell me what it was about, had my sister and husband and I watch it with her and eat pizza...
Regarding kid death on film, for me the most important part is to make sure the child actors on screen are safe. It's okay to have practical effects as long as the kids don't have to be involved with it cause I don't think it's good for little children to see gore, and be involved with it, even if it's partical effects since it takes a while before kids can fully understand the difference between reality and fiction!
Sounds like you’ve never been on a film set. I get there’s probably a line not to cross, but no kid is being traumatized on set by a blood squib or something of that nature. It’s extremely obvious even to a child that everything is manufactured.
I don’t think this is even remotely true. If you look at the behind the scenes of any horror movies with child actors, they always seem like they’re having a blast. I’m sure there’s exceptions, but from what I’ve seen, they usually understand that it’s all fake, and are genuinely having fun.
@@RangerW36 Take for example, Hereditary, where the actress for Charlie (the girl who got decapitated by a Telephone pole) Milly Shapiro, actually described filming the infamous Telephone pole scene as fun and like a roller coaster and actually wanted to keep her prop decapitated head (which unfortunately she couldn't)
1. The Terrifier movies aren't trying to be scary, just violent af 2. Is it safe to download anything on IA rn? I know they got hacked recently so i'm scared to even go there lol
@@jgv6323 chances are its fine, the people who hacked the site were trying to protest the Palestine genocide according to journalists, i doubt they bothered to inject anything malicious whilst doing it since that wasn't really the motive
I just found it weird that a majority of his kills are women, cause they’re so explicit and brutal . Like all of the main characters are female it’s weird that a film with such gruesome and graphic kills are almost all done done to women. It’s definitely questionable
@ That is true but this is fiction and it’s clearly not meant to mimic reality. Most serial killers didn’t scalp their victims after pretending to go trick or treating at their house.
@@khaki9337 so? Doesnt make women any harder to kill even if its fictional. If art the clown suddenly started flying and shooting lasers out of his eyes people would complain about it. Even tho its fictional
@@purplebruh947 why does it have to be women though? why? what purpose does that serve? you'd have to be this ignorant on purpose to pretend that there aren't horror movies that exist just to exploit women and their suffering whle also sexualizing them, and to then pretend that's not gross. i think damien leone listened to the criticsm, because in the third movie it's more balanced for sure. but the first movie is the text book defintion of torture porn, and to be fair i think you could call the 2nd and 3rd movie that too if you wanted to. i enjoy terrifier because i love art and sienna, and the writing has gotten better. but then again i'm biased, obviously. i want to make excuses, but it's weird. it's weird. we need to stop only fucking torturing women in horror movies and then getting mad when people point it out. you need to think more critically if you refuse to notice the blantant misogyny in horror movies and the genre as a whole.
The reason the demon makes Vicky cut her wrists is so she passed away completely and the demon takes full control. Just before that Art seems very annoyed with the real Vicky cuddling with the rats and using his horn, we don't see the annoyance anywhere in the film after that point
The character itself is cool. His design, personnality, over the top kills and humour are pretty good. The practical effects are great. Even if I'm not a fan of it, his "lore" is appreciable. The movies themselves suck though. The acting is terrible, the pacing is bad, the stories are convoluted and go nowhere. There's things to like in there but as a whole, it's not good. I'm very happy that it is succesfull though. The people working on it are passionate and it shows. It's fun if you like the character, over the top gore and great effects.
“The pacing is bad” is an understatement. Watching Terrifier 2 felt like being stuck in school again in the most boring class. You think an hour has passed but in reality it was only 10 minutes.
i mean ur opinion is ur opinion but i really do think the story has grown sm being a fan since the first one. idk i get u i do but i feel like its jus getting better and stronger thanks to the best final girl sienna
I've only watched the first one. Do the special effects, gore and the such, get better with the others? To me they looked just like something out of Monty Python in quality
This is a great dissection! You explained exactly why I find the films appealing. I’m a woman, and I like the slasher genre (even the really bad ones). Terrifier stands out to me Because of Sienna honestly. This sounds like the bar is too low but like…her having a distinct hobby sets her apart from a lot of final girls. And I love the final girl as a trope! But her interest in cosplay in makeup playing a big part of her character is just great. She also doesn’t feel like she just suddenly jumps into the savior role after having no signs of being one for the rest of the movie. She’s already hyper vigilant and willing to stand up to Art before she even knows what he can do. Also the sheer amount of improvement in each movie makes it clear the Damien is listening to what people’s problems are. Most of 3’s death scenes involve men. Also you crushing on Vicky is relatable.
This is an interesting take! I’m also a woman, and I found the first movie to be disproportionately violent towards women, and when the movie starts to feel sexist it’s not fun anymore. But you saying that the director has tried to remedy that makes me wonder if I should try 2 and 3? Idk though, I really only like gore if it serves a good story, not just gore for the sake of gore. But thanks for sharing your thoughts, I feel like most terrifier fans are men so it’s good to hear your take on it
@ there’s actually way more women than you’d think! But I get why people assume it’s mostly men haha. I do recommend 2 and 3, though 2 has a scene that’s pretty violent against a woman I’ll warn you of that. But it feels less Like That because of characters like Sienna and her mom. 3 is a lot better. But also, if you don’t like crazy gore 2 and 3 may still not be your thing. Part of the appeal to me is the over the top unrealistic gore.
@@alyssestephens7726 i hated the first movie but i absolutely loved the sequels (especially 3) and it was mainly for sienna but also the fact the director had clearly listened to criticism. 2 does have a death scene that was tbh too far for me but i watched 3 first out of context and i think it's really the best representation of this franchise so far with an actual plot and characters, not exactly LESS gore but not every death is drawn out and some are even offscreen
This is gonna be a weird comparison, but the marketing of Terrifier 3 reminds me a lot of the "Your mom hates Dead Space 2" ad from when that game was coming out.
@@deathseekr1537 There was an old interview in a PlayStation Magazine where they talked to some of the people behind the original GTA, and the interviewer asked "Why should people play your game?" And I kid you not, one of them responded with "Peer pressure and Satan." Whether they were being serious or not, it's still incredibly funny.
Marketing is there to sell a product. Terrifier ad campaigns, and the Dead Space 2, you would not see this kind of marketing repeat itself so much if it didn't work.
A small thing about the splatter genre: It was originally made as a protest against restricting censorship. They wanted things to be as gorey or sexual as possible just to gross people out. Though even those stories still had a plot, splatter stories now no longer have plots (mostly). In my opinion it has lost its spark or creativity by lack of quality in the plot in more modern stories
@@vainpiers It is, though. The genre was also made as a response to "free" women of the 70s/80s being open about their sexuality and such. Basically the world vs. said women. A lot of horror genres are based on real events/changes in society.
I’m sorry but these movies just sound like baby’s first religious symbolism, especially the last one with the ham-fisted references like the crown of thorns and the warrior angel
Eh. It was Christmas themed so they probably just threw on the costumes like the same as the Santa one. The warrior angel had something to do with the dad as an artist
Dont watch it if its not ur thing. Problem solved. Terrifier 3 beat alot of movies at the box office, because terrifier movies are ridiculous, and art is funny as hell. Its intentionally over the top, its not misunderstood - most people get it, and of u dont ur just not a fan of that kind of thing - and theres no controversy, its a slasher movie.
I get that not everyone likes splatter genre movies, but like. It’s really wild to hear that the gore is pointless, and “gore for gore’s sake” as if that’s innately bad. Splatter is genuinely one of the most interesting types of movies in my opinion-you’re focused on a level of artistry that’s often ignored. Doing SFX and practical effects that splatter films are known for is incredibly difficult and undeniably one of the most difficult art forms out there. It’s difficult enough drawing/painting/sculpting humans. Now try doing so in a way that inserts over the person so you can explode their head. I get not liking gore, but like. Why can’t people who appreciate the art in that just enjoy it???
My problem isn’t gore for the sake of gore, it’s how smug the franchise feels about it. This could just be me, but it felt like every time Art did something messed up, it was almost like someone was pointing at the screen and just going “wasn’t that so messed up?” repeatedly, if that makes sense. I feel like the best example of this isn’t in the movies ironically, but in the advertising. A big part of advertising for the third movie was about people throwing up while watching the movie in theatres, once again like having someone point at the screen and just go “wasn’t that so messed up?” If a movie wants to be gore for the sake of gore, that’s fine. The Saw franchise is absolutely guilty of that, and those movies are still good. The main differences are that Saw actually has an interesting story, and that while it still takes pride in its kills, it doesn’t feel nearly as smug about it
In my opinion, the misogyny in horror are those rules/tropes of the promiscuous woman who is killed because she had sex, compared to the final girl who survived for being a 'pure virgin'. This was something they actually tried to push in the 70 and 80s. If you have sex that means you'll die. (Men and women). Even the scream movie referenced this. When the killer said the main character wasn't safe anymore once she lost her virginity. Other people think the inclusion of assault and abuse is also part of misogyny. I disagree. Those things happen, and they are horrifying. Look at actual serial killers and a good share of them assault their victims before or after death. The only time i think something is misogynist is when the creators are telling women they will suffer a certain outcome if they act the wrong way. (Like having sex or dressing unmodest.) Obviously, there's more to speak on and look into on this topic. But I'm not trying to make a college essay over here. As a woman, i love horror, and i love art, the clown.
I think the issue people have is less with the abuse and assault in general and more so with how it’s portrayed. like a lot of older horror movies have scenes involving those things that are very objectifying and seem almost like they’re meant to be more titillating than terrifying. there are many examples of these things being portrayed in tasteful ways though and I don’t think people should forget about that. I’m very against the idea that real world problems shouldn’t be shown in fiction. I actually think it’s really important to shed a light on abuse through art. to me it just depends on the context and portrayal of it all. your perspective is interesting tho! it’s good to see conversations around horror become more dominated by women who can judge this stuff based on your own experiences
I just somehow don't think sexual assault and rape is presented well in slashers. It's more "isn't that wacky?" "Oh isn't that gross?" "LOL look at her"
The trope came out of the 70s/80s when women were becoming more open and free. It's basically the world vs. said women. If you look into the history of horror, you will see a LOT of genres were born from events/changes in society. Horror literally tells the timeline of how people are changing over time.
Issue with Terrifier it's that it's just not that good as people hype it out to be and mostly what stands out is the long and violent scenes of Art murdering people which is pretty boring. These movies are not scary, only shocking and that only for some. Yet they are promoted by it's fans as some big thing, when it really isnt
@@ratking7383 I genuinely thought the appeal WAS because the first movie had a very low budget, like it's good because it's bad right? I had no idea people genuinely thought it was well made and amazing lol
I love how differently religious themes in media get handled by different people. It can tell you a lot about them. You got the "tell me you were raised Catholic without telling you were raised Catholic" (My Chemical Romance), religious folks that are chill, creative, and a little fucked up (Doom and Faith: The Unholy Trinity), and satire (the band Ghost). Terrifier either falls in the first or third camp.
@theforgivingwarrior A lot of the imagery through the different eras is inspired by Catholic motifs, and the lyrics discuss themes of death, the afterlife, and redemption (or the lack thereof). Definitely not for everyone, but look up the "Helena" music video. It's a showcase of most of these ideas.
The first Terrifier was kinda like that awkward teen phase you have where you're trying on a ton of outfits before you pick a style and it becomes your "You"
1:37 i do not see it as transphobic AT ALL, but theres a scene where art wears a girls hair and boobs and parades around so maybe thats what theyre referring to 😭
I see it as a nod towards serial killers like Ed Gein, only more exaggerated in presentation because he's a literal evil clown whose sole purpose is to be edgy shock value.
Ultimately, Art the Clown will be remembered similarly to Michael Meyers, Jason, Freddy, and Chucky. Great and iconic villains who were most bad movies. Out of the 5 names listed, there is maybe 3 great movies and 2 good movies out of the like 30 or so movies they have combined. Simply put, shocking and gorey slashers with recognizable villains will always do well in theaters around Halloween. They will always be successful even if it means diminishing returns at some point. Terrifier simply joins the ranks of medicore horror franchises that survive off of seasonal trends and good marketing
Save for me falling and breaking out my nose, teeth, and breaking my arm then having to take Jimmy John's to court to sue to them to fix me whilst going bankrupt and everything in my apartment was breaking down. Now it's no injuries (but I am still affected by my old injuries of 2016 including horrible migraines and skull thickening from my nose causing mental issues), broken back teeth, I'm permanently disabled, husband is on strike/waiting to return to work, and things in my house are breaking down. >.
I meeeaaaan everyone said the same thing about the Evil Dead franchise and those have gone on to be cult classics so it’s no surprise to me that the same thing is happening with Terrifier.
Personally i dont care for terrifet at all. I rented the second movie cause i heard it was well terrifying and went in blind. I finished the movie cause i paid for it, but i personally was bored. I dont care for gore, it can be used well, but only gore just doesn't scare me, nor am i someone whos easily grossed out by that stuff. I kind of liked the artistic vibe it had at first, but it very quickly turned into just 2 and a half hours of this adult man killing mostly teenage girls in brutal ways. That w the fact that it was already easier on the guys only to then find out they cut a scene w a male victim bc they were worried id make the audience uncomfortable was not it. I mean this is terrifier, your going to show me all that not holding back at all on the teen girls, but cut one of the few male kills? Theres clearly a reason why one was seen as to far and the other not even if unintentional. It all just gave me the ick so i personally will not go see the new one.
They didnt cut out any male kill lol. The dude still got killed and his 🍆 got torn off. They just had an idea to make the kill more over the top (making a balloon animal out of it and then feeding it to the guy), but then they decided its distasteful.
@chaotix7275 as I said In my original comment they cut a scene, the scene w the added torture. Which was apparently distasteful, but the bedroom scene of killings children in 3 wasn't? Really..?
@@diepvrieskoe1335 I was correcting your misinformation where you said they cut out entire male kill scene, nothing much else really. Im not Damien Leone and i dont know whats going on inside his head and why he finds this particular idea as a bigger no no than the kills in TF1-TF3.
@chaotix7275 pls re read my comment. You cannot correct me or a claim I never made. I said they cut out A scene w a male victim. Not that they cut the whole kill. They cut the scene were they used 'it' as a balloon making it a very very tame kill and it being one of the few male kills
1:17:52 I’ll just add here. No, the targets of violence being young women doesn’t make it misogynistic. But part of the reason I have a hard time watching the Terrifier films is because Art often chooses his targets through classic means of gendered violence, and there’s a lot of enacted gendered violence. Like stalking a girl on a bus, r-pe (including with the chainsaw), harassing women in stores, etc., and I don’t think the statement “it’s a trope that makes you more empathetic” is a critical engagement with that trope at all. Especially since it also doesn’t address the fact that when this level of violence happens to men, it includes anal r-pe, which is also a gendered violence that highlights the connection between femme- and LGBT+-targeted violence. To do this work in general, I’d like to see more critical and artistic engagement with that trope to consider why this kind of violence is what we want for ‘empathetic’ and sensational storytelling.
I dislike every one of these movies. I think the practical effects are amazing and are the only reasons I have watched the films, but gore for the sake of gore was never for me. Also, I am a tad bit sick of seeing women take the brunt of violence in these movies because it is such an overdone trope (for lack of a better word). "OMG, the woman is gonna die." I also think the actor that plays the clown is amazing, and I totally get why people like these films. The pr is amazing, too. The first one is definely the worst one. Edgy for the sake of edgy. Again, I am 100% not this films audience, so I try not to bash it too much, but oh god, is the 1st movie awful. I also think a big reason people don't like these films is because they're not trying to say anything. There is no moral or meaning, so some people read too much into it and try to assign it one. "So many women died = movie doesn’t like women." People want a leason in their movies, so they will often assign it one even if it's nonsense.
I read all hollows eve and the first one as hating women, because in all hollows eve he literally strips a woman and puts derogatory words for women all over her body and then in the first terrifier he just generally does oddly sexual torture methods to the women while the men get normal gory ends. Perhaps the director didn't mean to, but the films definitely treat it's women in a particularly objectifying way. (2 and 3 are more equal opportunity, so I think they got a little better in that area.)
That "I'm the furthest thing from a misogynist" quote coming from the creator, a man, feels a bit odd. Maybe it's just ignorance, but you cannot say as a man that you 100% aren't misogynistic. I really hope he means that women themselves have said he isn't sexist. It's like, I can say I'm not sexist against men, but I still very much have a bias towards women and is cautious of masculine men, and admitting that is a big step to try and avoid this bias affecting things around me, like the stories I write.
IS it not a little silly to have gotten that vibe from the quote though? Furthest from technically doesn't imply "100% not misogynistic". I feel like you're reaching far too deep into that quote for any sort of proof that he is sexist. Also like others have mentioned, Terrifier 3 does have more male deaths, including two scenes that were pretty damn intense towards males in particular.
@maxxmillion2562 I'm not saying it's proof that he is sexist, it's just a goof-up and poor use of words. We all carry biases that we may not even be aware of.
1:17:11 I fully agree with this! Saw is one of my all time favorite franchises with its creative kills and its convoluted story (ESPECIALLY when Mark Hoffman is introduced). Always preferred the story more than the kills tho.
If characters in a movie said, "We're going to see Terrifier, it's about an evil clown from Hell who mutilates people" it would be recognized as a funny comment on low-effort, no-stakes horror, but somehow as a real movie it's an inescapable touchstone.
I think the problem it's the extremely edgy discourse around the movies, from the fans and the trailers, They oftenly focus on the shock factor instead of the characters or storytelling which is not bad at itself but it's obviously left aside for the gore scenes. I honestly won't be interested in watching a movie when their main appeal is "It's very scary 😢😮". Even some of my friends talked about how everybody is going there probably thinking they are so 'special and edgy, against the woke' for liking the movies and I think a part of the public thinks the same about art the clown.
I actually watched the first movie with my new bf who didn't know how squeamish i was (I love horror, but I'm more of a psychological girlie) and I THOUGHT because it was so popular that it couldn't be that bad! It'll be like scream I thought! I was mistaken :') Ended up crying and having a panic attack on the upside down scene. I'm glad you acknowledged the striking difference between the marketing/advertising and the actual content bc it is SUPER misleading imo
And your feelings are completely valid! I personally love these films (still gotta see 3, and AHE is honestly pretty meh for me for most the runtime since Art's barely there) but I totally understand why others can't stomach them or even hate them outright.
Terrifier isn’t a “legal snuff film” because Terrifier is a PAID PRODUCTION. It’s a THEATRICAL FILM. People were PAID to make it on a SET with well-known ACTORS. People are getting mad at a GORE movie for having GORE.
@@HxtBot Snuff films are ilegal films because it’s literally a murder caught on tape. Cartel execution videos are usually snuff films. Don’t worry, I’m also sensitive to gore stuff so I never watched or even searched it up lmfao. I’m just repeating what I’ve heard on the internet and Wendigoon videos.
I don’t think people are mad that a gore movie obviously comes with gore. They are bothered with the “gore” genre over all. Terrifier just happens to be the runner up at the moment so thats why they are criticizing it.
terrifier feels like if someone replaced the entirety of what makes slasher movies fun and said “haha what if we made something super edgy and gross and didn’t care about literally anything else”
@@saltchipper-7147 As someone who actually did watch the first one, that’s a pretty spot on description. I can’t speak about 2 and 3, as I ended up noping out of 2, and I’m pretty resistant to gore
I thought the dad's drawings were explained in Terrifier 2 and 3 subtextually. The dad is a prophet, being given visions of the future. He sees Sienna fighting Art in her Halloween costume and bases his drawing on her (in the flashback/nightmare scene from Terrifier 3 it seems like he is gripped by another vision as he passes Sienna the drawing). I would assume that his mental illness mostly stems from being forced to see the suffering and fear to which his daughter would be subjected. I don't pretend to know the extent of his visions but he may also have been tormented by visions of his wife and son being brutally murdered
4:37 alright if you really want to know, I was helping my sibling out with his School project which was to make a mini shoe box ofrenda for Dia de Los Muertos (Day of the Day). I decided to put this video on as background while I cut some papel picado (cut paper) and painted the clay candles, pan de Muerto (Bread of the Dead) and torta my brother made. After my legs went numb from sitting, I had finished and went into watching more of your video essays (I find you to be pretty relaxing to listen to while making art as a Studio Art major) It turned out pretty cute despite us finishing so late. Worth it and he ended up getting a very good grade on it.
I think the transphobia claim comes from the scene where Art skins the homeless woman and dances around wearing her hair and boobs, it gives off a very buffalo bill kinda vibe Edit: Yes, buffalo bill is a transphobic character, that I'd objectively true. No, I am not saying this movie is transphobic, so pointing out that any of the actors are queer is irrelevant. Also, anyone being outright transphobic here, you're commenting on a video by a trans creator.
Yeahhh anyone claiming that’s transphobia is an idiot Feels more like classic Art the Clown shenanigans. That sounds more like Buffalo Bill like you mentioned, or even Ed Gein
@mrsurge4789 I wouldn't say they're stupid. The horror genre has a history of transphobia and that scene invokes a lot of the same imagery. Even if that wasn't the intention, the implication is undeniably there.
@amazingspiderlad sexism, homophobia, and transphobia are so prevalent in media especially horror, that it doesn't even register as being there if you're not educated to it or part of those groups. It's really not meant as an attack to the audience until they start calling people names when it gets brought up. Advocating for less internalized bigotry from the media that gets fed to millions of people isn't really the censorship problem some people think it is. It's just about respect and being better. Ironically terrifier was the first movie where I was like...wait a minute yo...this seems kinda gross. And not in the way the creators think it is I'm very much not the target audience I guess
hey you should be more careful with flashing lights in your videos around 1:13:38 theres no warning its gonna happen. hope this doesnt come off as rude, i just have seizures so i end up being more hyper vigilant with these things. love the video and you inspired me to give terrifier a chance
i absolutely loved the terrifier films. is the first film terrible? yes its so bad. but it is unbearably funny. the terrifier movies are so masterful at combining gore with slapstick and other physical comedy. art helps this along by always pointing and laughing at the funny things he does. thanks art! you're right, that was really funny!
I personally really like how Art acts, I like how he’s silly in personality but also awfully insane. The Terrifier franchise has its potential, SOMETIMES, but it does often just go through the wall and add the most unnecessary shots and ideas. 💀
I think a lot of people watch it for the art and... art (pun intended) he's just a very fun and funny character and the way it's all over the top is very campy imo. the practical effects are phenomenal and I've seen nothing like it
I can’t speak for everyone but I enjoy murderous characters that can be silly and from the little content I’ve seen from the fandom Art’s silliness is a big appeal of the series. Also overdramatized things have always been something I personally enjoy and over dramatic is definitely one of the words I would use to describe the murder scenes. Sadly I didn’t really care about anything else when I watched the second movie tho(I can’t say much about the third cause I haven’t seen it yet)
Yeah! All he did was split a girl in half, turn another girl into well-seasoned meal, and blew up the “Meet Santa” display! He’s innocent, your honor, he just got a little too silly!!! (My first reply isn’t showing up for me sorry for the double- 💀)
I haven’t watched any of the Terrifier movies cause I heard about the woman being sawed in half down the middle & that was enough for me to be like N O P E. I don’t do genital mutilation, especially not involving bodies of the same sex as myself. That on top of hearing how mean spirited the franchise is just more nope. Not for me.
Absolutely agree. It makes me very uncomfortable and it’s so weird the amount of people that come out of the woodworks trying to invalidate that opinion by saying you’re “sensitive” or something like that for thinking that way.
@@alatusedits Except some of us understand it's fake?? I've seen horrible real life gore, having to help people with real medical stuff (and since I and my family are disabled, it's bound to happen) so I am used to seeing it but it doesn't mean that I am watching these only to desensitize myself. I've been raised on horror since I was 3. I love horror. I know it's all not real save for the stuff based on true stories, which I then go to learn about so I can honor the victims and such. I love horror because it can deal with a lot of the themes I deal with in my disabilities/life. It also has good storytelling or characters. In this, Art is very funny outside of his kills. It doesn't mean there's something wrong with me for enjoying the movies or anything like that.
i do wonder how the actress who played the cat lady feels about the scene and people calling it transphobic. she herself is trans and a vocal activist. fun vid. art really is just a silly lil guy
@@Fenoiby I do know the director and DHT both mean well (DHT's view on that scene is also that Art was just trying to debase her body and mentally torment Tara that much more, since Art loves to break people down completely), there's a reason "Just The Tip" was a thing in 2, because people kept pointing out how extra vicious Art was towards women. I hear 3 also helps with that shift too.
@Rad-Dude63andathird yeah, having seen the two sequels it does feel like they've tried to even it out some. i think perhaps there's a discussion to be had about how horror as a whole treats women, but i feel there are better starting points than the terrifier franchise. as a cis woman though i can't really speak to the transphobia comments. i just haven't seen many trans people, fans or actors, who have spoken negatively about that scene in t1. but perhaps i've missed it, i don't really know.
I know and David even said how she got vulnerable and he's like well then I should match her energy and be vulnerable with her, so he went partially nude for the scene.
The amount of weird men that watched terrifier for all the wrong reasons (torture porn) immediately turned me away from the series when I heard about it. I'm overall just like, dissolutioned to violence and exploitation against women as "horror" Because you know deep down that it isn't about actually showcasing the harm that comes to women as a critique, it's to get the men watching off on it because there's nothing they've historically loved more than violence against women.. 🚬😮💨
That's not even remotely why people like watching the Terrifier movies we're scared for the characters that Art the Clown encounters. It's not like Jason or Freddy where you're rooting for the bad guy to kill obnoxious characters, you're legitimately scared for the people Art comes across
I can confirm terrifier fans are extremely annoying because my friends started to watch it during class and they would not stop YELLING whenever they saw art 💀💀💀
You too? I know this one girl who makes Terrifier and Joker her entire personality and I can confirm she's . . . uncomfortable to be around. Also the biggest music snob I've ever met.
@@theMyRadiowasTaken Agree. The only ones I’ve met fall into the edge-lord category. The whole “you guys just don’t wanna see it bc yall are soft and babies🤪” thing.
@@goodnightblu yeah, most of them are like urban spooks fans. Just a bunch of edgelord being edgy. I actually like terrifier though, just cause it was kinda unpredictable what he would do. Since he has very horrid ways of killing and doesn't even speak.
my friends and i tried to watch the first one on halloween; we didnt turn it off because it was ahh scary, we turned it off because its genuinely fucking ass. and i mean yeah i dont wanna see a woman get sawed in half pussy-first, these movies just love torturing naked women like no thanks. put on saw 2004 and it was incredible
I think most people know art the clown and his GRUsome kills I remember watching elvis the alien video about terrifier & that saw-in-half kill was stuck on my mind for days
I absolutely HATEEEEE the terrifier series the only thing I somewhat like is Art's design but otherwise it's just too gorey and annoyingly disgusting for me. This video was a good way to learn about the series without ever getting into it 👍🏾
Gotta love how we live in a society (very funny) where the villain hangs someone upside down and saws them in half, and people are more worried about if he hates trans people or not
To me, Terrifier is what Aron Beauregard’s books should be: scary, funny, disturbing in the right ways, and most importantly, have actual good characters that we care about and writing. It’s not just “disturbing just for the sake of disturbing” it’s an actual fun experience to sit through and not want to rather watch paint dry for better entertainment.
TL;DR: i think terrifier sucks, art is the misogynistic one, not the director, you are responsible for what content you consume, we should be allowed include uncomfortable content in our storytelling Full Thoughts: I think Art the Clown IS misogynistic in himself as a character trait rather than the movie itself: I wholeheartedly believe that the director himself isn't at all misogynistic, and yes I agree: it makes Art more despisable and deplorable as a evil, psychotic, piece of subhuman trash that deserves nothing but the deepest, annals of hellfire, and the worst possible treatment you could subject on whatever this thing is. Terrifier is like the POSTAL of slasher films: it's simply pushing the limits and seeing what it can get away with. Why would people think that misogyny not a valid despisable character trait? There's real people who do less heinous shit but we draw the line there? I understand people have some limits, and some people won't be able to handle certain content and topics, hell, these days thankfully, we have the power to provide content warnings in everything that may be covered in the content we consume. However: to be warned and to be offended after the fact, and ignoring the warning signs: the responsibility solely lies on the individual who chose to stick it out and get offended. There's content that is meant to make you feel uncomfortable for a reason. I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. Huckleberry Finn. Lots of Stephen King's novels are uncomfortable with a purpose. I enjoy characterizations that aren't afraid to go there. I wholeheartedly agree with you in the sentiment of viewers should be responsible for the content they consume and interact with, and if they find content that they deem disturbing, they should ignore it. I want to see more hateful or bigoted antagonists. I'm tired of the "haha, I'm evil and I don't like people!" or the sympathetic antagonists. Give me an antagonist I want to put a bullet in.
@@NotLikeOtherWarlocks Please tell me it plays in the film proper, not just in the credits. 😅 Like don't spoil plot details, but it'd bum me out if such a good song got wasted on the part where most the theater is leaving lol
Honestly, Watched terrifier 3 and it was just... boring? I was bored by how this whole film felt like it didnt have any substance or goal, just mindless gore and blood. It only relied on shock factor and thats it. Perhabs just not my cup of tea
Splatter is my favorite genre of horror because everyone acts like it was made in the 2010's/2000's but it actually originates as a 1980's book genre called "splatterpunk". The idea of "horror without limits" is just so interesting to me mainly because of morbid curiosity and just how awful of a scenario someone can imagine and write/script. There are so many movies im surprised arent classed as splatter like pink flamingos and literally any movie the shameless company makes dvds of.
I don't get why people wanna watch a poor naked girl getting sawed in half. Never seen it, only had heard of the death and thought it's a step too far. I rather watch 'The Evil Dead' two more times. I'm 16 by the way. I can come up with brutal death ideas, but if I were to direct, I would mainly use them as stories to have the audience create the pictures. But there would be some gory bits, but I would make them stylised like 'Kill Bill', just the blood would be darker.
l feel like Terrifier hate is so forced honestly. I don’t know about you but I appreciate a movie thats willing to push the limit, and watching Art the Clown be so depraved the entire movie then getting his @ss handed to him towards the end is so cathartic. Despite what people say, the movies DO have a plot and a story. Though its not clear and requires a little theory crafting to grasp, its there for people who really wanna understand it. The franchise isn’t even finished yet anyways.
Definitetly agree with this. The criticisms are so inconsistent too - a few comments above yours, someone said it's weird to like Terrifier because it's just gore for the sake of gore, but then in the same comment said they liked the Saw franchise..? A lot of these critisms like 'it's X for the sake of X' feel so empty, seeing as it implies a thing can't simply be a thing for its own sake, and it falls apart when you start comparing it to other similar movies that are also just X for the sake of X.
I’ve met the director, the actor for Art, as well as a few other members from the cast of Terrifiers 1 and 2, and it was at a horror convention. You see brutality on screen from movies ranging from The Thing from 1982, to Mandy, which is more recent, to movies that come before The Thing, and all the way back to Terrifier today. There are films that are pretty grotesque and arguably “too obscene to be allowed”, one movie that I haven’t seen but have heard fits that description is A Serbian Film, but even then, as far as I’m aware, it’s just another movie meant to instill horror in the viewer. For most of what I’ve mentioned, these movies give you everything you could possibly want to satiate your horrific, depraved, or curious mind, and the beauty to these works are the writing ideas and the fact that these are filmed using special affects that leave the casts for the most part: unharmed. Even bettering the lives of those profiteers financially. The reason to create horror or graphic content is to exercise what ideas you have come up with, and try to garner a reaction from your audience. You can find one thing or another distasteful, but objectively, where there’s no harm, there’s no foul.
I made a few spelling, grammatical, and full on misplaced word errors. But I hope my view is legible. I thought your video was good and I wish you the best!
As someone who's waaaaaaaaaay too chicken to actually watch these movies (although I love horror in general, the gore levels here just sound a touch too high), this video has gotten me extremely invested in the plot and themes, particularly Sienna's arc. I almost wish there was a fan-cut of the movies that cuts around the gory bits, something like "Terrifier: The Plot Cut" although ik that's kind of an insult to the effects work and to the people who like the gore, for me I would love to watch the parts of the movies that delve into character and plot stuff but wouldn't know where to skip around to avoid the #gross. Anyway thanks for making the video, it's great!
something that must be said re: woman's deaths in horror films in general (not just in terrifier)...horror is the only genre of film, maybe even the only genre of fiction, that is not only allowed but Expected to be actually honest about violence under patriarchy. its in a heightened and fictionalized way, but women and others subject to patriarchal violence, especially the subconscious need to be prepared for violence of some kind in so many situations, will find more honesty about their experiences within many trashy slashers than a lot of prestige films in other genres that would rather paper over it. to me one of the things horror is best at saying is "you're not crazy, your experiences are valid, you're not an inconvenience or a bummer for rightfully pointing out the ways in which you are made to fear on a daily basis." its not the only thing i want, i often also want escapism from these forces, or healing from them. but the pure honesty ingrained into horror is refreshing in a world that often seeks to belittle you for attempting to articulate why you feel unsafe
Yes, horror movies are actually pretty realistic to what women could go through in the hands of an evil man. Not only an hour ago, I saw a woman who was a burned victim. Her ex-husband set her on fire, and the police officers still let him walk free. That seems like a horror movie right there. Most true crimes I've listened to seem like an average slasher/gore fest movie. To an extent, fiction takes from reality. These movies honestly show the truth and horried reality of women. That's why I also think most women like them. It can be a coping mechanism, a way to explore the dark in a safe, contained way.
@@2dents513I completely understand this take but also That message is NOT why women endure torture porn gore fests in horror movies. We have to know that. It is _not_ to ~represent the authentic female experience~ it's so the director can get off on women in pain. *Not specifically calling out Terrifier for this, just the genre as a whole.
@@Miniike this is a really good point. however, I think it fails to recognize how these movies can be part of the problems that women face when they show the female victims in objectifying ways. it’s brilliant that women can find some comfort in these films through their own interpretations, but I highly doubt that these directors are concerned with accurately representing a woman’s experience on purpose. a lot of the time it’s simply to exploit violence against women for money and outrage. but the conversation around these films is very nuanced and I like that you brought up a good point rather than the common “well it’s not real so who cares” kind of argument (which is typically used by men bc they aren’t affected by these issues and therefore don’t really take it seriously)
@@quandaredevil i agree its important to keep these things in perspective! there are many legit connections to misogyny, its something that needs to be questioned and challenged in new works of horror that are made. we live in a patriarchal word and pretty much all popular culture is tinged with patriarchy, and the only way to change that is to understand these things honestly. we should definitely be aspiring towards a better world. but as we live in the world we do currently, i think its important to lend a sympathetic ear to the places where our emotional needs are met in a way that the outside world often doesnt come close to accomplishing. all types of marginalized people are left to navigate a culture that is hostile to them, and ultimately what i want for them is reasons to stay alive, in spite of everything, which they (certainly i) often find in unexpected and imperfect places. everyone should have both the dignity of both a better future and being allowed to navigate our dark present to find comfort and survival in whatever way works for them. we deserve a lot better than what we have, but we also deserve more than nothing. ultimately what unifies all aspects of this is that they need to be thoroughly understood rather than dismissed out of defensiveness 🙏
4:40 Not an artist, but currently crocheting a Gandalf plush for my college's Tolkien Society to make up for hounding them for interviews for a journalism project. His head is turning out way too big but nevertheless I persist.
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Can just be lots and lots of guts. I think you're thinking of torture genre. There is a difference. Terrifier kind of goes into both categories at the same time being fun. It feels like an 80s slasher film where it makes it fun to watch.
The movie made me uncomfortable in a good way. Sometimes movies that tester limits are a good thing. This movie achieve that and made it entertaining at the same time.
I like them all they're all pretty much fun slasher movies to me.
I thought the original Art was good. However David Howard Thornton is Leaps and Bounds better than the original actor. I met the actor who played art the clown David Howard Thornton he's awesome.
Terrifier is fine but im just so tired of all of the promotional material solely being "we have a scene so scary people were puking, crying, and shitting in the theaters!?!?!!"
edit: im not trashing the movies, ive never seen them and i understand everything id subjective. im just talking about the marketing
Same, honestly. It makes it sound super edgy and makes me roll my eyes.
@@I_Like_Ike53 yeah I wanna know I’m CUM in the terrified movie
Yeah I all they talk about is “YOUR GONNA DIE IN THIS MOVIE” meanwhile I wanna know will I nut for the clown?
That's part of why I avoid these movies like the plague despite being someone who writes torture. If that's your number one selling point, then that's just telling me you're trying to be as shocking as possible and as the other replied said, super edgy. It almost reminds me of those mobile ads where it's like "only 1% of the population can handle this!"
@@abhainn35 don’t let the promos steer you away, sure the movies are super gory. But they don’t take themselves seriously. Especially in the third. It’s more like it’s being so extra it’s hilarious, and they’re very self aware about it
Terrifier I hardly know her
kirtis conner fan?!
Yeeeees :)
do I smell a fan of 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙈𝘼𝙔𝙊𝙍
@@twisted_pretzlesKurt Conner? I hardly know ’er.
**Jim Lahey falling**
*insert laugh track*
The obsession with pissing in the first film is so funny for some weird reason.
he probably has a piss kink to be fr
I worked at a fancy dress shop this halloween the amount of 10-14 yr olds asking me if we had art the clown in childrens sizes was insane
I wonder if it's because of the little assistant character called the little pale girl
It's like pennywise, Jason, or Freddy Kruger.
Most of thie kids haven't seen the movies, they just like the characters.
When I went to go see the 3rd move, a family of 4 with LITTLE KIDS came into the theater during a kill, but it must have been a mix-up in room numbers bc the mom immediately whisper-yelled “Wrong room, let’s go” to her kids- one of them stayed behind for a good 2 minutes before scampering off- they look NO OLDER THAN 6..💀💀💀
That's pretty tame tbh. At least they are teenagers or close to that
hella cool
I think terrified has its place in horror, but it runs into the problem that saw had. Basically you can only do so much gory blood and guts before people just get jaded by it and stop caring.
but the difference between both films is that saw has been going for TWENTY YEARS. having ELEVEN MOVIES and a very very very confusing but VERY much there plot
terrifier has only 3 movies so far; you barely see their deaths coming and the lore forces you to actually dig DEEP to understand ANY of it, eventually, yes, people will get tired by the gore, but if saw can make it through 11 movies, terrifier can last just as long while keeping shock value
The director was just talking about this on a podcast. He wants to be done soon because doesn't want to over do it.
@ he was referring to siennas story; art will still be used to tell other stories :3
The difference is, art is funny to watch, basically Roby Rotten or Mr.Bean of the horror, I can’t never get enough of their funny body acting.
what a stupid argument. just say you don't find it fun. by your argument then gory movies would never "do anything" because I've seen one before. it's not a drug addiction that makes me want something more and something stronger i just want to have fun. i think you're watching movies for the wrong reasons
Art the Clown is like a bad a creepy pasta villain that somehow got his own movie
Underrated comment
holy hell you're right! Remember Laughing Jack?
I bet some movie directors considered doing movies on Jeff The Killer at one moment, I don't know why but I'm certain (Btw can we talk about how TERRIBLE is this creepypasta ? I've rarely seen something that bad). And for me Art is a combination of Luna Ghost design (very similar and somehow different at the same time, I feel like Luna Ghost (from Scooby-Doo 2002 btw) looks like a alternative universe Art, its hard to explain but I think you'll got it if you check at Luna's picture), Jason powers and like Chucky's sadism (or Freddy Krueger's)
He looks soo similar to laughing jack I actually never got that out of my mind. Like this movie ‘s (1st one) script probably would’ve made it on wattpad in 2012 as a creepypasta and gotten popular lmao
Difference is that 15yo creepy pasta authors are dead serious while Terrifier is tounge in cheek and self aware. It's half tribute to, half parody of slasher movies. The author doesn't claim to have some deep messaging or complex characters in it.
i wonder who drew the thumbnail i bet he's really handsome and cool and awesome
@@miiilowo who did it
@@melogome bruh
One of my favorite artists jumpscare
@@melogome i think it was the person who made the comment :)
Ok buddy, get back in quinnies basement
Art the Clown is really problematic you shouldn't be giving him attention... he literally killed people
Art like Fart
Why is you'r comment 11 hours ago but the video says posted 6 minutes ago?
Fr like... No one is talking about it🙄 /j
More like Fart
calm down liberal.. it's called dark humor....
I admire the cinematography but terrifier 2 just p*ssed me and my friends off😭 the ratio of time given to female torture and male was so obvious, theres a line to be crossed
lol n ppl will act like they just dont get it, b!tch you're actually blind
girl what r u yappin abt😭 the kills were pretty balanced sex wise. u saying the ratio was off jus shows u weren’t into the movie and just wanted to dissect it to build ur own narrative. weird
Oh yeah. You know that one dick-slashing scene was added for a reason
They make up for that in 3 for sure 😉
(As a dude, the d*ck being torn off, and the scene in Terrifyer 3 REALLY got to me)
Genital mutilation stuff on both ends get me queezy lol.
soft ngl
watching art the clown get cancelled for things we ALL have done 😔
Exactly.
Every single thing?
SMH my head 😮💨
Exactly dude
I hate when i violently bisect a woman and Twitter tries to cancel me, sad days
I find it odd that people call the first film “transphobic”. like the guy is an evil psychopath, even if he did do something explicitly transphobic, he’s not supposed to be likeable anyways, he’s literally the villain, I mean that’s like saying Damien Leone wants to brutally murder people because he makes movies about brutal murder, just because it happens in something a person made does not mean it aligns with that person’s beliefs.
also the marketing team basically lied about David Howard Thornton almost puking on set. they made it sound like there was a scene that was so grotesque that it almost brought “Art the Clown himself to becoming nauseous”, when in reality (or so I’ve heard) the real reason was just because of some kinda phobia he had relation to the scene in question. I think it was rats but correct me if I’m wrong.
In an interview, David said the only scene that genuinely kind of bothered him and made him nauseous to do was the tube rat scene, because of the puke. Idk if he genuinely almost hurled, but he said it definitely got him
@ yes there we go, the marketing team really made it sound like the reason was because of some gory aspect of it, rather than something else
@@kadavre aww poor David. That said now I'm picturing Art the Clown with an inexplicable fear of vomit
Bad guy does bad thing so that doesn't condone thing only goes so far. Because if the framing itself is "ew gross a transperson" and the horror and uncomfortability is meant to come from them being trans... it's still transphobic.
The lady in the first movie with the baby doll is played by a trans actor, with her character being depicted as a completely cis woman.
She chose herself what she wanted the character to be like, and they were glad to let her!
As someone who lives in a transphobic community, if they were transphobic they would have done a lot worse.
I have a hard time taking the director seriously when he claims that r*pe is "too far" and "Art would never do that" when the chainsaw murder is an homage to older slasher post/during coitus death scenes that emphasize the penetration of the victim. He tries to have it both ways by pretending he's a scholar of slasher and splatter films and then acting like his scenes aren't doing what they are clearly doing, in the context of films in these genres.
It's also absurd for him to claim he doesn't show children being brutally murdered when the teens in 2 are literally children. Once again, he tried to have it both ways, and him claiming that it would be too disturbing, given how the entire point of the gore in these films is to be disturbing... Maybe he thinks his arguments make sense, but to me they ring as hollow as his asserting that his weirdly 50s tinged views on men and women's roles is the reason why he films things the way he does. Sounds exactly like someone who holds misogynistic views being called out and appealing to an imagined archetype as their defense of said views.
Sure the plot is literally there, however Warhammer 40k has a plot (or more precisely a narrative) but the only reason it does is to sell toys... Which... Given the amount of things you can buy associated with this franchise.... Yeah, the mere presence of a cohesive narrative doesn't mean it's not simply there to prop up death scenes.
That being said: if someone wants to make splatter films... That's what they should do, I used to watch them a lot myself, but for me, it came to a point where there's really no tension in most films like this, and tension is the real powerhouse of horror, the terrifier franchise feels like I'm watching a Cannibal Corpse album, as a film, and the thing about that is, Cannibal Corpse is only scary for people who don't want to listen to them. Since I'm cool with it, it's just a repetition of the signifiers of fear, without any actual fear occuring. The end sequence of the original "Wicker Man" is easily like ten times more distressing on an emotional level than the madcap splatter of terrifier, even though I can appreciate the F/X masterpieces that they are, it just feels like a fun house ride. And perhaps that's intentional and has deeper meaning (in a more meta sense) than I'm giving credit but, I just don't care ultimately. The films just don't compel me into caring that much. The phenomena of people watching it, and their fascination with it, is much more interesting to me. And so I enjoyed this video quite a lot.
yeah he has a weird dichotomy that i can't get over/ignore like a lot of people.
Yeah that part didnt make much sense. He says that r*pe "distrubs him", but like does that mean that he doesnt find all the other things in the movie disturbing? Idk really how to explain but it just feels really forced and scummy
Older slashers don't depict rape either, I take Terrifier as a continuation of like Nightmare on Elm St and Hellraiser and Friday the 13th, it would be as out of place as if Jason started raping someone, that's not the character
based commenty, the chainsaw scene really rubbed me the wrong way, even if the director is clueless the scene just implies rape so fucking hard
It's strange to say he isn't sexual, while he repeatidly target sexual part (dicks and breasts) as well as the chainsaw scene that just... Well there isn't a way to say it isn't sexual in anyway.
But saying "r*ape is too far" while having theses scenes feel like a straight lie or just a way to shield form critics.
See, my issue with the movies isn’t the movies themselves as much as it is the way they’re talked about online. A lot of grandstanding about how if you don’t like the movies you don’t “get it” and are either too stupid or too much of a coward to be a horror fan in general.
Realest thing ever, I’ve seen half of 1 and a bit of 3 with my friends. We honesty, found it so boring, and the culture around the movies suck. There’s so many people around me thinking they are “different” and “edgy” because they find it fun and entertaining. I can withstand gore but it ain’t fun watching it
exactly, while i love the franchise i also don't like to watch gore, i often watch right up to when it happens then skip the actual details of the kill. But unfortunately, a certain type of terrifier fans like to dog on people who simply refuse to watch because of that aspect, like somehow they're superior because they enjoy that sort of stuff. I also dislike the way the movies are promoted, i understand shock sells, but if they keep marketing the franchise as "omg 5 people walked out and puked and shit everywhere because of this scene" then they cannot be surprised when they keep attracting cringe edgelords into their fandom.
@@月月月月-p5gdude nobody else feels the same way when I said the first two were boring, but you get it. The biggest problem these movies have is the bloated run time. They should be an hour and a half at max, but instead they’re two and a half hours and by the end you’re just glad it’s over and feel like you got your time wasted.
@@onesaucynougat7471 it was so boring to watch it. Ppl in my math class were watching 3 and out of boredom I joined in. It was over2 hours long, and what’s crazy to me is how anyone is entertained by this shit. It’s crazy. I understand the appeal with shock value or wt r but god damn is it boring.
nobody has ever once said you're stupid . give me a break. it's "not for you" and that's OK but ive never seen anybody gatekeeping terrifier for 'intelligent' ppl. save that for ari aster fans or some other arthouse horror director
One detail I wanted to point out is that the homeless lady's doll in the first film was named Emily, and the little girl that the pale girl is imitating was named Emily Crayne. My theory is that Art had killed that woman's daughter in the past which drove her crazy.
Yeah, it is basically splatterpunk with Five Nights at Freddy's storytelling.
I noticed she does her makeup pretty well for a homeless person! 🤣Just sayin'.
@AJ-tp9bk Ha ha! Yeah, most movies are like that. Every woman (almost) wants to look good on camera, after all.
@@crazydud3380 i think its more the people making it can do horrific gore, but find a woman not looking perfect isnt fit for tv- absoloute bs if you ask me
@sophiefdez Oh it is. My point was really more that nearly every movie and TV show is guilty of it. I mean, everyone in period pieces tends to have perfect teeth, which certainly isn't accurate.
terrifier fans will switch from "yeah i watch this sort of thing for fun, sorry if you cant handle it 😎😎" to having screaming matches in response to the slightest criticism and then wonder why people don't like them
THANK YOU. I see it all the time. They love to insist the films aren't overhyped but "overhated". Overhated by who exactly? WHO? I can't find a single person online that says anything remotively negative about these films.
Where do you even meet all "these people"?
The movie came and went to lukewarm reception. Dunno what all this supposed controversy is. It's a B-grade movie that made it into the A-grade theatre slots. End of story.
Ong.
and those fans are here with us?
This is why I don't interact with the fandom, I just liked the movies, but I thought "Wow, the fans are really simping for the killer, I sense a toxic fandom." Ignorance is bliss
One thing that i notice is that theres a lot of terrifier fans who ask "why do people only think these movies are only gore?!" When its due to how these movies present themselves, most slasher present themselves with fear as the focus, fear of the slasher, while these movies present themselves as goofy gorefest especially with the "people who watch this film puke lol" and "watch the goofy clown kill the guy for a while" and with the first film just being that exact thing and nothing else it mainly only attracts big horror fans, and the the "I watch gore for fun 🤓" crowd, the ladder of which also repeats the same sentiment
@@deathseekr1537 you haven’t watched many slasher films, have you?
@notgonnapay I said most slashers, exceptions like child's play and nightmare on elm Street exist but they focus on their comedic monster scaring a bunch of teens or kids
@@deathseekr1537 Even Elm Street focuses on the fear, just in a different way. Freddy is all about fear, he just takes things less seriously than silent killers like Jason or Michael
Okay but why can't we have a goofy gorefest? I just wanna see a killer clown go fucking mental for a couple hours, if I want a slow burn psychological thriller I can go find a hundred. We're running out of good old grindhouse splatter films, and Terrifier 1 was perfect. It knew what it was and didn't try to be anything else. Terrifier 2 is about a little girl getting superpowers from her halloween costume and beating a demon with daddys love. If that is too edgy for you I don't understand how you are alive in the world right now. Just because gory movies gross you out doesn't mean everybody else who likes them is a prick going "look how cool I am for watching this" we just don't get pissy when we see it like you do. People hate to realize that they can't handle something, so they blame the thing and the people who like it instead of accepting their own limits.
Another point, how exactly are you supposed to make a horror film about a guy who kills people without being edgy? What people seem to want is a convoluted backstory about why the killer is just a misunderstood sadboy they can draw sexy fanart of but that's not scary. I'm not afraid of mopey traumatized humans I'm afraid of invincible sadists who don't feel pain or empathy. That's great for a character study about a troubled individual but I didn't buy a ticket to Joker I bought a ticket to Clown Kills People The Movie and there's nothing wrong with wanting a couple hours of dumb meaningless fun
@@thatfunkadeus Those articles about people puking and fainting in theaters, though they garnered a ton of publicity for the filmmakers, were awful for the fans' reputation.
People liken Terrifier to films like Saw, Hostel, and even A Serbian Film despite having nothing in common with them besides the explicit gore. If anything, I’d compare it with Italian Giallo, such as Dario Argento’s Suspiria, or The Church.
The fact nobody is likening Art's obvious shift from being a living person to being a deathless demonic entity upon his actual demise to Jason Voorhees, who shares the same arc, is genuinely shocking and disappointing.
@@Veiled_Lepidoptera wasn’t he shot in the head and still was alive?
@@BoggarthVT he got resurrected after doing that to himself
You got to check horror histories video on art the clown he makes those connections really well.
oh yea
Art only got resurrected to be part of a bigger plan to conjure a demon or satan to the real world. It’s similar but not the same arc
I really like the portrayal of trauma in Terrifier 3. The way it shows both sides, one trying to move on and one who's stuck, is pretty damn accurate. It was also shown that Johnathan takes paroxetine, which is medication used for depression (mainly), which is something that would def be affecting both of the kids. I love it.
The terrifier series is essentially just splatterpunk, but movie edition. Which I have no issue with, sometimes I enjoy it, but people gotta remember, not everyone is gonna like certain genres and vice versa. All I say is, if you don’t like something? Read the tags/warnings, and avoid it.
Thats how it used to be in the past that the people that liked something enjoyed it and the people that dont like it just avoided it but nowadays in the west if some people really dont like something then the people that like it are usually not allowed to enjoy it anymore.
@@CyberLance26 right, that's why famously art was never criticised or censored before the internet
@@sofiipote7 The difference is that most of the time in the past even if people complained about something the companys did it anyway but nowadays if people complain about stuff then the companys usually dont want to do it anymore.
TV shows, movies, cartoons, video games and comics used to make fun of the people that complained about these kind of things all the time but now they are scared of those people instead.
The companys also used to care about profit and earning money the most but these days being politically correct is usually even more important to them even if they would earn way more money if they did not care about that stuff.
And it was in the 2010s it became the way things are like right now so we had the internet long before it became the way things are like nowadays.
vice versa more like vice viscera
Doesthedogdie is great for checking triggers in a film
It upset me so much hearing how they filmed those "scared audience" promos. They lied to the audience and didn't say at all it would be a horror movie
@@ststst981 WAIT WHAT? Did they not tell the people what they were watching?
This is a blatant lie lmao. Since when do people pay for movies, and then are forced/tricked to watch one they didn’t pay for? Thats a complete joke 😂
@shawnsells7 it was a free screening for tester audiences and they dont reveal the name of the movie till you sit down, they mislead audiences on what the movie would be to get more shocked audience reactions
@@shawnsells7 This is explained in the video, too, so you must have commented before watching it all the way through
@@sofiipote7 but they never lied, like the original commenter stated. OP was making it sound worse than it actually was
As a Catholic, I really appreciate the religious themes. Sienna is very much a Christ figure and Terrifier 3 is very much the passion she undergoes. Demons will always try to mock and belittle God, but as Terrifier 3 shows, the Holy and good will always prevail.
Actually kind of mad at the retelling of one of the funnier horror movie jokes in recent time:
Tara doesnt just run away and gets shot a few times.
After several attempts of fighting back against art she finally gets the upper hand, grabs a plank of wood from the ground and starts beating the living piss out of him. Giving the audience a slight shimmer of hope at her becoming the final girl and managing to defeat the killer, she prepares herself to finish the mime with the makeshift weapon. Art on his knees, beaten down and almost shivering pulls a glock from his sock like he is John Wick and shots her. Perfect comedic timing, perfect acting from Thornton
Do you mean upper hand instead of over hand?
you thought that was funny?
I particularly loved that scene bc it had huge "CALL AN AMBULANCE CALL AN AMBULANCE !!! But nOT FOR ME !" vibes
Also completely throwing slasher convention out the window by having the slasher use a gun in the first place
That scene turned the tide on how I was feeling about the movie. I was ready to throw it in the trash bin, but then Art pulling out his trusty gat out of desperation made me laugh so hard. Thornton really is the saving grace of that first movie.
It’s less that it’s “problematic” and more that the first Terrifier feels like being edgy for edgelord’s sake. At least personally, the first movie falls into the pitfall of a lot of slashers falls into: there’s not much substance beyond “what if the character got killed dead and it was really bloody and cringe inducing”. 2 and 3 are a step in the right direction, but I don’t blame someone who doesn’t want to give them a chance because 1 was too much for them
This is how I felt about it at first until I really considered the meaning of why the choices were even made about what would be edgy. Then I realized how problematic I personally found it. I think stuff being try hard edgy is really usually a way of expressing problematic views without taking responsibility or realizing it about yourself
But that's just where I've ended up on this
Everything is “edgy” nowadays. But, I’m pretty sure why people liked Terrifer was because for one, Art isn’t a misunderstood villain character. He’s evil to be evil. No sob story. Two, the blood and gore. Even more with the other movies. Not everything needs to be “substance” to be entertaining. Some people like to shut off their brains, and enjoy what’s in the screen. It’s literally splatterpunk.
@@bimates2690 This comment is super funny since we just got a horror film called The Substance just released this year.
@bimates2690 saying people don't wanna think and just wanna shut off their brain to watch women get tortured and have a good time isn't really the argument you think it is
@@michaelelmes2135A guy literally gets his dick ripped off in 2 Art doesn’t discriminate.
A lot of people were disturbed by the shower scene. I grew up watching a lot of Texas chainsaw so it didn’t really bother me, but the FUCKING BOX CUTTER scene actually made me puke, and it was the first time I ever puked during a horror movie
the rat scene almost made me get sick but it's just because i have bad emetophobia 😭
The bedroom scene of 2 made me a little icked out. Human Centipede was my first real shock movie and that was the first and only real time I almost got sick watching it and that was cause my mom didn't actually tell me what it was about, had my sister and husband and I watch it with her and eat pizza...
Regarding kid death on film, for me the most important part is to make sure the child actors on screen are safe. It's okay to have practical effects as long as the kids don't have to be involved with it cause I don't think it's good for little children to see gore, and be involved with it, even if it's partical effects since it takes a while before kids can fully understand the difference between reality and fiction!
Sounds like you’ve never been on a film set. I get there’s probably a line not to cross, but no kid is being traumatized on set by a blood squib or something of that nature. It’s extremely obvious even to a child that everything is manufactured.
It sounds to me like the one who doesn't fully understand the difference between reality and fiction is you.
I don’t think this is even remotely true. If you look at the behind the scenes of any horror movies with child actors, they always seem like they’re having a blast.
I’m sure there’s exceptions, but from what I’ve seen, they usually understand that it’s all fake, and are genuinely having fun.
@@EgoTidethere was a very infamous incident involving the Twilight Zone mice, in which 2 child scores were accidentally decapitated in the final scene
@@RangerW36 Take for example, Hereditary, where the actress for Charlie (the girl who got decapitated by a Telephone pole) Milly Shapiro, actually described filming the infamous Telephone pole scene as fun and like a roller coaster and actually wanted to keep her prop decapitated head (which unfortunately she couldn't)
Internet archive being down is scarier than the entire terrifier franchise.
It's back so don't be too scared guys
1. The Terrifier movies aren't trying to be scary, just violent af
2. Is it safe to download anything on IA rn? I know they got hacked recently so i'm scared to even go there lol
I still can't watch movies on there apparently. Sad.
jgv6323 it's safe, they upped their site's security before they put the ia fully online again
@@jgv6323 chances are its fine, the people who hacked the site were trying to protest the Palestine genocide according to journalists, i doubt they bothered to inject anything malicious whilst doing it since that wasn't really the motive
I would be fucked up if IA is down for good since many literature I am able to access are only available within IA's scans
I just found it weird that a majority of his kills are women, cause they’re so explicit and brutal . Like all of the main characters are female it’s weird that a film with such gruesome and graphic kills are almost all done done to women. It’s definitely questionable
Serial killers in real life also mostly went for women or children. They cant fight back as much as a grown man
@ That is true but this is fiction and it’s clearly not meant to mimic reality. Most serial killers didn’t scalp their victims after pretending to go trick or treating at their house.
@@khaki9337 so? Doesnt make women any harder to kill even if its fictional. If art the clown suddenly started flying and shooting lasers out of his eyes people would complain about it. Even tho its fictional
@@purplebruh947 why does it have to be women though? why? what purpose does that serve? you'd have to be this ignorant on purpose to pretend that there aren't horror movies that exist just to exploit women and their suffering whle also sexualizing them, and to then pretend that's not gross. i think damien leone listened to the criticsm, because in the third movie it's more balanced for sure. but the first movie is the text book defintion of torture porn, and to be fair i think you could call the 2nd and 3rd movie that too if you wanted to. i enjoy terrifier because i love art and sienna, and the writing has gotten better. but then again i'm biased, obviously. i want to make excuses, but it's weird. it's weird. we need to stop only fucking torturing women in horror movies and then getting mad when people point it out. you need to think more critically if you refuse to notice the blantant misogyny in horror movies and the genre as a whole.
@@mika-si7fu yeah, nature is misogynistic for making women way easier to kill for grown men. Such a shame
The reason the demon makes Vicky cut her wrists is so she passed away completely and the demon takes full control. Just before that Art seems very annoyed with the real Vicky cuddling with the rats and using his horn, we don't see the annoyance anywhere in the film after that point
True
The character itself is cool. His design, personnality, over the top kills and humour are pretty good. The practical effects are great. Even if I'm not a fan of it, his "lore" is appreciable.
The movies themselves suck though. The acting is terrible, the pacing is bad, the stories are convoluted and go nowhere. There's things to like in there but as a whole, it's not good. I'm very happy that it is succesfull though. The people working on it are passionate and it shows. It's fun if you like the character, over the top gore and great effects.
“The pacing is bad” is an understatement. Watching Terrifier 2 felt like being stuck in school again in the most boring class. You think an hour has passed but in reality it was only 10 minutes.
i mean ur opinion is ur opinion but i really do think the story has grown sm being a fan since the first one. idk i get u i do but i feel like its jus getting better and stronger thanks to the best final girl sienna
I really like the second one, and the acting inthe 3rd is crazy good imo
@@andersbell2046 It is better indeed.
I've only watched the first one. Do the special effects, gore and the such, get better with the others? To me they looked just like something out of Monty Python in quality
28:00 Animatronics are still considered practical effects to a degree, it essentially refers to anything non- cgi :)
I think she meant the digital eye, though
This is a great dissection! You explained exactly why I find the films appealing. I’m a woman, and I like the slasher genre (even the really bad ones). Terrifier stands out to me Because of Sienna honestly. This sounds like the bar is too low but like…her having a distinct hobby sets her apart from a lot of final girls. And I love the final girl as a trope! But her interest in cosplay in makeup playing a big part of her character is just great. She also doesn’t feel like she just suddenly jumps into the savior role after having no signs of being one for the rest of the movie. She’s already hyper vigilant and willing to stand up to Art before she even knows what he can do. Also the sheer amount of improvement in each movie makes it clear the Damien is listening to what people’s problems are. Most of 3’s death scenes involve men. Also you crushing on Vicky is relatable.
This is an interesting take! I’m also a woman, and I found the first movie to be disproportionately violent towards women, and when the movie starts to feel sexist it’s not fun anymore. But you saying that the director has tried to remedy that makes me wonder if I should try 2 and 3? Idk though, I really only like gore if it serves a good story, not just gore for the sake of gore. But thanks for sharing your thoughts, I feel like most terrifier fans are men so it’s good to hear your take on it
@ there’s actually way more women than you’d think! But I get why people assume it’s mostly men haha. I do recommend 2 and 3, though 2 has a scene that’s pretty violent against a woman I’ll warn you of that. But it feels less Like That because of characters like Sienna and her mom. 3 is a lot better. But also, if you don’t like crazy gore 2 and 3 may still not be your thing. Part of the appeal to me is the over the top unrealistic gore.
@@carolinewheeler77 thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it! Happy belated Halloween :)
You like the 3rd movie because men die more? What the fuck is wrong with you
@@alyssestephens7726 i hated the first movie but i absolutely loved the sequels (especially 3) and it was mainly for sienna but also the fact the director had clearly listened to criticism. 2 does have a death scene that was tbh too far for me but i watched 3 first out of context and i think it's really the best representation of this franchise so far with an actual plot and characters, not exactly LESS gore but not every death is drawn out and some are even offscreen
I'm hoping Terrifier 4 is like Evil Dead, I want to see Sienna just rip and tear.
@@thesologoldfish
It would be high time for that
Me too. The chainsaw/sword fight got me hyped up for cool action in the next one. Maybe she’ll recover the armor too and go army of darkness
The poster for terrifier 4 set in space so I’m actually curious how that one turns out
@@月月月月-p5gThat is not confirmed yet bro
doomguy shows up and kisses art on the cheekbone and art dies
28:22 It was honestly crazy to see Art kill such a major character, especially a child, Cody NutKiss will always be my favorite character. RIP
Wait why are we talking about SML again??????
@LoominousShroominous fake fan 😔
@@sniplord3051 what
sienna shaw they could never make me hate you
I love my girl Sienna Shaw she's a queen and a final girl for the ages!!
This is gonna be a weird comparison, but the marketing of Terrifier 3 reminds me a lot of the "Your mom hates Dead Space 2" ad from when that game was coming out.
Real, it mainly reminds me of the old GTA strategy where they say the game is so brutal and edgy so the "I watch gore for fun 🤓" crowd could swarm it
@@deathseekr1537 There was an old interview in a PlayStation Magazine where they talked to some of the people behind the original GTA, and the interviewer asked "Why should people play your game?" And I kid you not, one of them responded with "Peer pressure and Satan." Whether they were being serious or not, it's still incredibly funny.
I remember when Saw first came out I heard a lot of rumours about people leaving the cinema. I guess it's a strategy that has been employed many times
Marketing is there to sell a product. Terrifier ad campaigns, and the Dead Space 2, you would not see this kind of marketing repeat itself so much if it didn't work.
More like "see Paris Hilton die" with House of Wax
A small thing about the splatter genre: It was originally made as a protest against restricting censorship. They wanted things to be as gorey or sexual as possible just to gross people out. Though even those stories still had a plot, splatter stories now no longer have plots (mostly). In my opinion it has lost its spark or creativity by lack of quality in the plot in more modern stories
I think I'd really enjoy the genre if it wasn't so unaware of its own bigotry.
@@vainpiers It is, though. The genre was also made as a response to "free" women of the 70s/80s being open about their sexuality and such. Basically the world vs. said women. A lot of horror genres are based on real events/changes in society.
I’m sorry but these movies just sound like baby’s first religious symbolism, especially the last one with the ham-fisted references like the crown of thorns and the warrior angel
Eh. It was Christmas themed so they probably just threw on the costumes like the same as the Santa one. The warrior angel had something to do with the dad as an artist
Slasher movies were never intelligent in particular.
Sorry the movie doesn't cater to your dumbshit taste Lindsay. Some of us actually know and enjoy slasher films.
? The second one did it in such an artistic way lol
i got jumpscared when you asked what the artists are drawing-
i was drawing kevin from spooky month btw lol
ITS DA SPOOKY MONTH !
@@fernoagent8581 IT THA SPOOKY BEFOR CHRISTMAS~!!!
FELLOW SPOOKY MONTH FAN SPOTTED 🗣🗣🗣🗣
oh hell yeah
Art the Clown rule 34 from what I’ve seen
Dont watch it if its not ur thing. Problem solved. Terrifier 3 beat alot of movies at the box office, because terrifier movies are ridiculous, and art is funny as hell. Its intentionally over the top, its not misunderstood - most people get it, and of u dont ur just not a fan of that kind of thing - and theres no controversy, its a slasher movie.
More like Shart the frown
@@SoldierRat7274 real
he's coming for you because of this
this made me laugh so much, I need to be put down
Bars
Gottem
"what are you drawing? I DEMAND TO KNOW" Geez if ya wanna know so badly, it;s Hades 2 Dionysus in Chel's clothing from El Dorado
Incredibly based
@@r0tt3nap0ll0 would you like to share with the class 👀
If you post your art is your username the same as on here? Bc when that shit drops I want to be among the first to see it o7
you better not whitewash him 👁👁
@malum9478 why would I whitewash perfection? He's free rep as a dark skinned person myself
I get that not everyone likes splatter genre movies, but like. It’s really wild to hear that the gore is pointless, and “gore for gore’s sake” as if that’s innately bad.
Splatter is genuinely one of the most interesting types of movies in my opinion-you’re focused on a level of artistry that’s often ignored. Doing SFX and practical effects that splatter films are known for is incredibly difficult and undeniably one of the most difficult art forms out there. It’s difficult enough drawing/painting/sculpting humans. Now try doing so in a way that inserts over the person so you can explode their head.
I get not liking gore, but like. Why can’t people who appreciate the art in that just enjoy it???
My problem isn’t gore for the sake of gore, it’s how smug the franchise feels about it. This could just be me, but it felt like every time Art did something messed up, it was almost like someone was pointing at the screen and just going “wasn’t that so messed up?” repeatedly, if that makes sense. I feel like the best example of this isn’t in the movies ironically, but in the advertising. A big part of advertising for the third movie was about people throwing up while watching the movie in theatres, once again like having someone point at the screen and just go “wasn’t that so messed up?” If a movie wants to be gore for the sake of gore, that’s fine. The Saw franchise is absolutely guilty of that, and those movies are still good. The main differences are that Saw actually has an interesting story, and that while it still takes pride in its kills, it doesn’t feel nearly as smug about it
"people who don't like gore, why??? the gore is well made! like the gore!!!"
oh yeah more peak
I was not expecting to see an analog horror creator commenting on a quinnamon video
*insert obligatory “ermmm didn’t expect to see YOU here 😜😜😜” reply*
holy fuck its the suitmation trials guy
is that the man in the suit???!?!?!?
@@tom_stuff2806 wrong person bud
In my opinion, the misogyny in horror are those rules/tropes of the promiscuous woman who is killed because she had sex, compared to the final girl who survived for being a 'pure virgin'.
This was something they actually tried to push in the 70 and 80s. If you have sex that means you'll die. (Men and women). Even the scream movie referenced this. When the killer said the main character wasn't safe anymore once she lost her virginity.
Other people think the inclusion of assault and abuse is also part of misogyny. I disagree. Those things happen, and they are horrifying. Look at actual serial killers and a good share of them assault their victims before or after death. The only time i think something is misogynist is when the creators are telling women they will suffer a certain outcome if they act the wrong way. (Like having sex or dressing unmodest.)
Obviously, there's more to speak on and look into on this topic. But I'm not trying to make a college essay over here. As a woman, i love horror, and i love art, the clown.
I think the issue people have is less with the abuse and assault in general and more so with how it’s portrayed. like a lot of older horror movies have scenes involving those things that are very objectifying and seem almost like they’re meant to be more titillating than terrifying. there are many examples of these things being portrayed in tasteful ways though and I don’t think people should forget about that. I’m very against the idea that real world problems shouldn’t be shown in fiction. I actually think it’s really important to shed a light on abuse through art. to me it just depends on the context and portrayal of it all. your perspective is interesting tho! it’s good to see conversations around horror become more dominated by women who can judge this stuff based on your own experiences
Did you see cabin in the woods? It also smartly references these tropes.
I just somehow don't think sexual assault and rape is presented well in slashers. It's more "isn't that wacky?" "Oh isn't that gross?" "LOL look at her"
The trope came out of the 70s/80s when women were becoming more open and free. It's basically the world vs. said women. If you look into the history of horror, you will see a LOT of genres were born from events/changes in society. Horror literally tells the timeline of how people are changing over time.
Issue with Terrifier it's that it's just not that good as people hype it out to be and mostly what stands out is the long and violent scenes of Art murdering people which is pretty boring. These movies are not scary, only shocking and that only for some. Yet they are promoted by it's fans as some big thing, when it really isnt
@@ratking7383 I genuinely thought the appeal WAS because the first movie had a very low budget, like it's good because it's bad right? I had no idea people genuinely thought it was well made and amazing lol
It’s subjective.
Subjective. I love the movies because of Art. He's hilarious and the stuff he does is funny; outside of the kills, that is.
I can't believe we got quinnamon doing a manscaped ad before GET OUT GET OUT OF MY HEAD
I love how differently religious themes in media get handled by different people. It can tell you a lot about them. You got the "tell me you were raised Catholic without telling you were raised Catholic" (My Chemical Romance), religious folks that are chill, creative, and a little fucked up (Doom and Faith: The Unholy Trinity), and satire (the band Ghost). Terrifier either falls in the first or third camp.
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE MENTIOEND OHMYGOD 😖😖😖😖🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵😝😝😝😝
It's very obviously the first.
I LOVE DOOM!!!
i dont know shit about my chemical romance, what makes it fall under the first?
@theforgivingwarrior A lot of the imagery through the different eras is inspired by Catholic motifs, and the lyrics discuss themes of death, the afterlife, and redemption (or the lack thereof). Definitely not for everyone, but look up the "Helena" music video. It's a showcase of most of these ideas.
The first Terrifier was kinda like that awkward teen phase you have where you're trying on a ton of outfits before you pick a style and it becomes your "You"
It's like the short first season of a tv show before it finds its footing
@@ethanhart129 Like the first season of the American version of The Office!
As someone who wouldn't be able to stomach the actual movies, thanks for this analysis
You're going in my "trusted TH-camr" list
1:37 i do not see it as transphobic AT ALL, but theres a scene where art wears a girls hair and boobs and parades around so maybe thats what theyre referring to 😭
SAME im a transboy (so is quinnamon) and i understand how it can be viewed as that but i don’t think that was the intent
To me... The way Texas chainsaw massacre and Sleepaway Camp objectify crossdressing and forced feminization feels way more transphobic to me
Or he is just insane and you freaks of nature gotta stop trying to say everything is trans
@@numb3r_1sayakafan Also even if it was transhphobic... It's done by the most evil man on earth for f sake! Would only make sense.
I see it as a nod towards serial killers like Ed Gein, only more exaggerated in presentation because he's a literal evil clown whose sole purpose is to be edgy shock value.
Ultimately, Art the Clown will be remembered similarly to Michael Meyers, Jason, Freddy, and Chucky. Great and iconic villains who were most bad movies. Out of the 5 names listed, there is maybe 3 great movies and 2 good movies out of the like 30 or so movies they have combined.
Simply put, shocking and gorey slashers with recognizable villains will always do well in theaters around Halloween. They will always be successful even if it means diminishing returns at some point. Terrifier simply joins the ranks of medicore horror franchises that survive off of seasonal trends and good marketing
I’m curious what the good and great movies are between these five in your opinion
I'm sorry, Mike's kids are named Edd and Molly? Hm... Wonder what Mike's last name is and if he found his files yet
Golly gee i wonder what this could be referencing 🤔
I just hope Mikes friend is getting over his breakup well :(
i have that plushie thats in your pfp
@@ilovemen42 Oh, cool. I also love men
@@MossOnTheWall08 good to know!
My doctor says I need Art's over the top brutality to balance out my boy Freddy Fazbear's over the top tameness in my daily horror content consumption
so real lmao
Freddy Fazbear isn't that tame when you remember Garten of Banban
0:20 it really does feel like 2016 again, doesn’t it? 😔
Save for me falling and breaking out my nose, teeth, and breaking my arm then having to take Jimmy John's to court to sue to them to fix me whilst going bankrupt and everything in my apartment was breaking down. Now it's no injuries (but I am still affected by my old injuries of 2016 including horrible migraines and skull thickening from my nose causing mental issues), broken back teeth, I'm permanently disabled, husband is on strike/waiting to return to work, and things in my house are breaking down. >.
@ wow that fucking SUCKS
I meeeaaaan everyone said the same thing about the Evil Dead franchise and those have gone on to be cult classics so it’s no surprise to me that the same thing is happening with Terrifier.
the difference in violence and intent between evil dead and terrifier are monu-fucking-mental.
Personally i dont care for terrifet at all. I rented the second movie cause i heard it was well terrifying and went in blind. I finished the movie cause i paid for it, but i personally was bored. I dont care for gore, it can be used well, but only gore just doesn't scare me, nor am i someone whos easily grossed out by that stuff. I kind of liked the artistic vibe it had at first, but it very quickly turned into just 2 and a half hours of this adult man killing mostly teenage girls in brutal ways. That w the fact that it was already easier on the guys only to then find out they cut a scene w a male victim bc they were worried id make the audience uncomfortable was not it. I mean this is terrifier, your going to show me all that not holding back at all on the teen girls, but cut one of the few male kills? Theres clearly a reason why one was seen as to far and the other not even if unintentional. It all just gave me the ick so i personally will not go see the new one.
They didnt cut out any male kill lol. The dude still got killed and his 🍆 got torn off. They just had an idea to make the kill more over the top (making a balloon animal out of it and then feeding it to the guy), but then they decided its distasteful.
@chaotix7275 as I said In my original comment they cut a scene, the scene w the added torture. Which was apparently distasteful, but the bedroom scene of killings children in 3 wasn't? Really..?
@@diepvrieskoe1335 I was correcting your misinformation where you said they cut out entire male kill scene, nothing much else really. Im not Damien Leone and i dont know whats going on inside his head and why he finds this particular idea as a bigger no no than the kills in TF1-TF3.
@chaotix7275 pls re read my comment. You cannot correct me or a claim I never made. I said they cut out A scene w a male victim. Not that they cut the whole kill. They cut the scene were they used 'it' as a balloon making it a very very tame kill and it being one of the few male kills
@@diepvrieskoe1335 You said "they cut one of the very few male scenes" which made it (to me) sound like it. But if not then thats fair.
1:17:52 I’ll just add here. No, the targets of violence being young women doesn’t make it misogynistic. But part of the reason I have a hard time watching the Terrifier films is because Art often chooses his targets through classic means of gendered violence, and there’s a lot of enacted gendered violence. Like stalking a girl on a bus, r-pe (including with the chainsaw), harassing women in stores, etc., and I don’t think the statement “it’s a trope that makes you more empathetic” is a critical engagement with that trope at all. Especially since it also doesn’t address the fact that when this level of violence happens to men, it includes anal r-pe, which is also a gendered violence that highlights the connection between femme- and LGBT+-targeted violence. To do this work in general, I’d like to see more critical and artistic engagement with that trope to consider why this kind of violence is what we want for ‘empathetic’ and sensational storytelling.
I dislike every one of these movies. I think the practical effects are amazing and are the only reasons I have watched the films, but gore for the sake of gore was never for me. Also, I am a tad bit sick of seeing women take the brunt of violence in these movies because it is such an overdone trope (for lack of a better word). "OMG, the woman is gonna die." I also think the actor that plays the clown is amazing, and I totally get why people like these films. The pr is amazing, too. The first one is definely the worst one. Edgy for the sake of edgy. Again, I am 100% not this films audience, so I try not to bash it too much, but oh god, is the 1st movie awful. I also think a big reason people don't like these films is because they're not trying to say anything. There is no moral or meaning, so some people read too much into it and try to assign it one. "So many women died = movie doesn’t like women." People want a leason in their movies, so they will often assign it one even if it's nonsense.
I read all hollows eve and the first one as hating women, because in all hollows eve he literally strips a woman and puts derogatory words for women all over her body and then in the first terrifier he just generally does oddly sexual torture methods to the women while the men get normal gory ends.
Perhaps the director didn't mean to, but the films definitely treat it's women in a particularly objectifying way.
(2 and 3 are more equal opportunity, so I think they got a little better in that area.)
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@totallynotdown3982 LMAO IM IMAGINE UR BUM SELF WRITING THIS ITS SO FUNNY 🤣🤣 trash movies trash fans
@@zinabepp Sissy response.
@totallynotdown3982 cry more?
i havent watched terrifier because i hate gore but im glad it exists, i kinda missed the more campy and stupid horror movies that are just a gorefest
That "I'm the furthest thing from a misogynist" quote coming from the creator, a man, feels a bit odd. Maybe it's just ignorance, but you cannot say as a man that you 100% aren't misogynistic. I really hope he means that women themselves have said he isn't sexist. It's like, I can say I'm not sexist against men, but I still very much have a bias towards women and is cautious of masculine men, and admitting that is a big step to try and avoid this bias affecting things around me, like the stories I write.
IS it not a little silly to have gotten that vibe from the quote though? Furthest from technically doesn't imply "100% not misogynistic". I feel like you're reaching far too deep into that quote for any sort of proof that he is sexist. Also like others have mentioned, Terrifier 3 does have more male deaths, including two scenes that were pretty damn intense towards males in particular.
@maxxmillion2562 I'm not saying it's proof that he is sexist, it's just a goof-up and poor use of words. We all carry biases that we may not even be aware of.
1:17:11 I fully agree with this! Saw is one of my all time favorite franchises with its creative kills and its convoluted story (ESPECIALLY when Mark Hoffman is introduced). Always preferred the story more than the kills tho.
HOFFMAN IS THE BEST.
so deliciously idiotic. I genuinely fangirled over the saw X after credits scene hahaha
I hope you had a nice harfest opposite looking mae.
Hi opposite looking mae
@Artycat55 oh that's my evil clone..
If characters in a movie said, "We're going to see Terrifier, it's about an evil clown from Hell who mutilates people" it would be recognized as a funny comment on low-effort, no-stakes horror, but somehow as a real movie it's an inescapable touchstone.
I think the problem it's the extremely edgy discourse around the movies, from the fans and the trailers, They oftenly focus on the shock factor instead of the characters or storytelling which is not bad at itself but it's obviously left aside for the gore scenes. I honestly won't be interested in watching a movie when their main appeal is "It's very scary 😢😮". Even some of my friends talked about how everybody is going there probably thinking they are so 'special and edgy, against the woke' for liking the movies and I think a part of the public thinks the same about art the clown.
I actually watched the first movie with my new bf who didn't know how squeamish i was (I love horror, but I'm more of a psychological girlie) and I THOUGHT because it was so popular that it couldn't be that bad! It'll be like scream I thought!
I was mistaken :')
Ended up crying and having a panic attack on the upside down scene. I'm glad you acknowledged the striking difference between the marketing/advertising and the actual content bc it is SUPER misleading imo
And your feelings are completely valid! I personally love these films (still gotta see 3, and AHE is honestly pretty meh for me for most the runtime since Art's barely there) but I totally understand why others can't stomach them or even hate them outright.
Womp womp 😭😂 having a panic attack over terrifier one?
@@Skibiditoiletwatcher53283it’s called a phobia you jackass. We’re not supposed to like seeing what’s inside of us, we strive to stay alive
@@Skibiditoiletwatcher53283 your name is skibiditoiletwatcher pls shut up
@@Skibiditoiletwatcher53283 You will start coughing in 7 days
Terrifier isn’t a “legal snuff film” because Terrifier is a PAID PRODUCTION. It’s a THEATRICAL FILM. People were PAID to make it on a SET with well-known ACTORS. People are getting mad at a GORE movie for having GORE.
Exactly, also isn't snuff literally cp???
(Correct me if im wrong, too scared to look it up lmfao)
@@HxtBot Snuff films are ilegal films because it’s literally a murder caught on tape. Cartel execution videos are usually snuff films. Don’t worry, I’m also sensitive to gore stuff so I never watched or even searched it up lmfao. I’m just repeating what I’ve heard on the internet and Wendigoon videos.
@@HxtBotIt’s not necessarily Club Penguin but ofc there are a bunch of club penguin snuff, but it’s still ilegal for the obvious reasons 💀💀
@@Yourstruly_band and people are saying that the gore is on par with snuff films, what's not clicking?
I don’t think people are mad that a gore movie obviously comes with gore. They are bothered with the “gore” genre over all. Terrifier just happens to be the runner up at the moment so thats why they are criticizing it.
terrifier feels like if someone replaced the entirety of what makes slasher movies fun and said “haha what if we made something super edgy and gross and didn’t care about literally anything else”
Truly said like someone who hasn’t seen them
@@saltchipper-7147 As someone who actually did watch the first one, that’s a pretty spot on description. I can’t speak about 2 and 3, as I ended up noping out of 2, and I’m pretty resistant to gore
I thought the dad's drawings were explained in Terrifier 2 and 3 subtextually. The dad is a prophet, being given visions of the future. He sees Sienna fighting Art in her Halloween costume and bases his drawing on her (in the flashback/nightmare scene from Terrifier 3 it seems like he is gripped by another vision as he passes Sienna the drawing). I would assume that his mental illness mostly stems from being forced to see the suffering and fear to which his daughter would be subjected. I don't pretend to know the extent of his visions but he may also have been tormented by visions of his wife and son being brutally murdered
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I had to stop disassembling my halloween setup to look at the screen when I heard this LMFAO
I use to love Terrifier, but this crossed the line for me 😤😤😤
@@RedLaundryBasket he doesn't need to be canceled he needs to be locked up 😭 ‼️‼️‼️‼️
4:37 alright if you really want to know, I was helping my sibling out with his School project which was to make a mini shoe box ofrenda for Dia de Los Muertos (Day of the Day). I decided to put this video on as background while I cut some papel picado (cut paper) and painted the clay candles, pan de Muerto (Bread of the Dead) and torta my brother made. After my legs went numb from sitting, I had finished and went into watching more of your video essays (I find you to be pretty relaxing to listen to while making art as a Studio Art major) It turned out pretty cute despite us finishing so late. Worth it and he ended up getting a very good grade on it.
I think the transphobia claim comes from the scene where Art skins the homeless woman and dances around wearing her hair and boobs, it gives off a very buffalo bill kinda vibe
Edit: Yes, buffalo bill is a transphobic character, that I'd objectively true. No, I am not saying this movie is transphobic, so pointing out that any of the actors are queer is irrelevant. Also, anyone being outright transphobic here, you're commenting on a video by a trans creator.
Yeahhh anyone claiming that’s transphobia is an idiot
Feels more like classic Art the Clown shenanigans. That sounds more like Buffalo Bill like you mentioned, or even Ed Gein
@mrsurge4789 I wouldn't say they're stupid. The horror genre has a history of transphobia and that scene invokes a lot of the same imagery. Even if that wasn't the intention, the implication is undeniably there.
@amazingspiderlad sexism, homophobia, and transphobia are so prevalent in media especially horror, that it doesn't even register as being there if you're not educated to it or part of those groups. It's really not meant as an attack to the audience until they start calling people names when it gets brought up. Advocating for less internalized bigotry from the media that gets fed to millions of people isn't really the censorship problem some people think it is. It's just about respect and being better.
Ironically terrifier was the first movie where I was like...wait a minute yo...this seems kinda gross. And not in the way the creators think it is
I'm very much not the target audience I guess
@@mrsurge4789 dude buffalo bill is just transphobic
This feels like when people were claiming Pennywise was homophobic for that one part of the 2nd (?) film. It’s really not it, not that deep.
hey you should be more careful with flashing lights in your videos
around 1:13:38 theres no warning its gonna happen.
hope this doesnt come off as rude, i just have seizures so i end up being more hyper vigilant with these things. love the video and you inspired me to give terrifier a chance
i absolutely loved the terrifier films. is the first film terrible? yes its so bad. but it is unbearably funny. the terrifier movies are so masterful at combining gore with slapstick and other physical comedy. art helps this along by always pointing and laughing at the funny things he does. thanks art! you're right, that was really funny!
I personally really like how Art acts, I like how he’s silly in personality but also awfully insane.
The Terrifier franchise has its potential, SOMETIMES, but it does often just go through the wall and add the most unnecessary shots and ideas. 💀
The moves are incredibly mediocre. I really do not understand why they’re so popular.
I think a lot of people watch it for the art and... art (pun intended) he's just a very fun and funny character and the way it's all over the top is very campy imo. the practical effects are phenomenal and I've seen nothing like it
It’s a funny clown going around doing mortal kombat fatalities on people.
What moves are you referring to?
I like the 2nd and 3rd for the complex character relationships, the acting, and way better writing.
I'm sorry you don't like them though.
I can’t speak for everyone but I enjoy murderous characters that can be silly and from the little content I’ve seen from the fandom Art’s silliness is a big appeal of the series. Also overdramatized things have always been something I personally enjoy and over dramatic is definitely one of the words I would use to describe the murder scenes. Sadly I didn’t really care about anything else when I watched the second movie tho(I can’t say much about the third cause I haven’t seen it yet)
1:36:31 oh that’s gore… that’s gore of my comfort character…
free my bro art he aint do shit
Yeah! All he did was split a girl in half, turn another girl into well-seasoned meal, and blew up the “Meet Santa” display! He’s innocent, your honor, he just got a little too silly!!!
(My first reply isn’t showing up for me sorry for the double- 💀)
The Nux jumpscare was the most scary part of the video
real asf
@@VirtualFox true dat
Gave me traumatic flashbacks from when I used to watch him
Same goes for that super mario Logan cameo
If art wasnt a killer would he be chill
He wouldn’t necessarily be chill, but he’d definitely be a cool guy to hang around
I haven’t watched any of the Terrifier movies cause I heard about the woman being sawed in half down the middle & that was enough for me to be like N O P E. I don’t do genital mutilation, especially not involving bodies of the same sex as myself. That on top of hearing how mean spirited the franchise is just more nope. Not for me.
It's really not that bad at all. The sequels had way worse scenes than it. It's probably the most tasteful anyone could ever do a scene like that.
Absolutely agree. It makes me very uncomfortable and it’s so weird the amount of people that come out of the woodworks trying to invalidate that opinion by saying you’re “sensitive” or something like that for thinking that way.
@@aacm9062 could not have said it better than both of y’all, absolutely agree
Understandable. The only legit valid reason to watch these films is to desensitize yourself to violence, but even that is questionable
@@alatusedits Except some of us understand it's fake?? I've seen horrible real life gore, having to help people with real medical stuff (and since I and my family are disabled, it's bound to happen) so I am used to seeing it but it doesn't mean that I am watching these only to desensitize myself. I've been raised on horror since I was 3. I love horror. I know it's all not real save for the stuff based on true stories, which I then go to learn about so I can honor the victims and such. I love horror because it can deal with a lot of the themes I deal with in my disabilities/life. It also has good storytelling or characters. In this, Art is very funny outside of his kills. It doesn't mean there's something wrong with me for enjoying the movies or anything like that.
i do wonder how the actress who played the cat lady feels about the scene and people calling it transphobic. she herself is trans and a vocal activist.
fun vid. art really is just a silly lil guy
@@Fenoiby
I do know the director and DHT both mean well (DHT's view on that scene is also that Art was just trying to debase her body and mentally torment Tara that much more, since Art loves to break people down completely), there's a reason "Just The Tip" was a thing in 2, because people kept pointing out how extra vicious Art was towards women. I hear 3 also helps with that shift too.
@Rad-Dude63andathird yeah, having seen the two sequels it does feel like they've tried to even it out some. i think perhaps there's a discussion to be had about how horror as a whole treats women, but i feel there are better starting points than the terrifier franchise.
as a cis woman though i can't really speak to the transphobia comments. i just haven't seen many trans people, fans or actors, who have spoken negatively about that scene in t1. but perhaps i've missed it, i don't really know.
@@Fenoiby this isn't the starting point. People have been having this discussion for ages.
@@clumsyninja925 well sure, that's exactly it, i think - that discussion is ongoing, so some people will view terrifier through that lense.
I know and David even said how she got vulnerable and he's like well then I should match her energy and be vulnerable with her, so he went partially nude for the scene.
The amount of weird men that watched terrifier for all the wrong reasons (torture porn) immediately turned me away from the series when I heard about it. I'm overall just like, dissolutioned to violence and exploitation against women as "horror"
Because you know deep down that it isn't about actually showcasing the harm that comes to women as a critique, it's to get the men watching off on it because there's nothing they've historically loved more than violence against women.. 🚬😮💨
That's not even remotely why people like watching the Terrifier movies
we're scared for the characters that Art the Clown encounters. It's not like Jason or Freddy where you're rooting for the bad guy to kill obnoxious characters, you're legitimately scared for the people Art comes across
ive never seen terrifier and im trying to see how long i can keep it that way because every terrifier fan ive ever met is really annoying
I can confirm terrifier fans are extremely annoying because my friends started to watch it during class and they would not stop YELLING whenever they saw art 💀💀💀
You too? I know this one girl who makes Terrifier and Joker her entire personality and I can confirm she's . . . uncomfortable to be around. Also the biggest music snob I've ever met.
@@theMyRadiowasTaken Agree. The only ones I’ve met fall into the edge-lord category. The whole “you guys just don’t wanna see it bc yall are soft and babies🤪” thing.
@@goodnightblu yeah, most of them are like urban spooks fans. Just a bunch of edgelord being edgy. I actually like terrifier though, just cause it was kinda unpredictable what he would do. Since he has very horrid ways of killing and doesn't even speak.
my friends and i tried to watch the first one on halloween; we didnt turn it off because it was ahh scary, we turned it off because its genuinely fucking ass. and i mean yeah i dont wanna see a woman get sawed in half pussy-first, these movies just love torturing naked women like no thanks. put on saw 2004 and it was incredible
I think most people know art the clown and his GRUsome kills I remember watching elvis the alien video about terrifier & that saw-in-half kill was stuck on my mind for days
@@M1ch43lRoyElvis is awesome. That is how I get my dose of Terrifer.
I remember watching that video and the Dead Meat video before it got this big
Yeah that’s how I first found out about Terrifier, before the sequel came out
I absolutely HATEEEEE the terrifier series the only thing I somewhat like is Art's design but otherwise it's just too gorey and annoyingly disgusting for me. This video was a good way to learn about the series without ever getting into it 👍🏾
Gotta love how we live in a society (very funny) where the villain hangs someone upside down and saws them in half, and people are more worried about if he hates trans people or not
I mean Chuckie respects his child Glen/Glendas identity, why can't other new characters do the same lol I know I'm joking about it but for real.
To me, Terrifier is what Aron Beauregard’s books should be: scary, funny, disturbing in the right ways, and most importantly, have actual good characters that we care about and writing. It’s not just “disturbing just for the sake of disturbing” it’s an actual fun experience to sit through and not want to rather watch paint dry for better entertainment.
TL;DR: i think terrifier sucks, art is the misogynistic one, not the director, you are responsible for what content you consume, we should be allowed include uncomfortable content in our storytelling
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I think Art the Clown IS misogynistic in himself as a character trait rather than the movie itself: I wholeheartedly believe that the director himself isn't at all misogynistic, and yes I agree: it makes Art more despisable and deplorable as a evil, psychotic, piece of subhuman trash that deserves nothing but the deepest, annals of hellfire, and the worst possible treatment you could subject on whatever this thing is.
Terrifier is like the POSTAL of slasher films: it's simply pushing the limits and seeing what it can get away with.
Why would people think that misogyny not a valid despisable character trait? There's real people who do less heinous shit but we draw the line there? I understand people have some limits, and some people won't be able to handle certain content and topics, hell, these days thankfully, we have the power to provide content warnings in everything that may be covered in the content we consume. However: to be warned and to be offended after the fact, and ignoring the warning signs: the responsibility solely lies on the individual who chose to stick it out and get offended.
There's content that is meant to make you feel uncomfortable for a reason. I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. Huckleberry Finn. Lots of Stephen King's novels are uncomfortable with a purpose. I enjoy characterizations that aren't afraid to go there.
I wholeheartedly agree with you in the sentiment of viewers should be responsible for the content they consume and interact with, and if they find content that they deem disturbing, they should ignore it.
I want to see more hateful or bigoted antagonists. I'm tired of the "haha, I'm evil and I don't like people!" or the sympathetic antagonists.
Give me an antagonist I want to put a bullet in.
ICE NINE KILLS WAS IN TERRIFIER 3!?! OMG THEY ARE ONE OF MY FAVORITE BANDS! :0 (I don't watch Terrifier cause I don't like extreme gore :,)
@@nat_479 YEAH!! If you've heard their song A Work Of Art, it was in it!
@@NotLikeOtherWarlocks I Actually Haven't
But now that I know the name of the Song Will I Defiently give it a listen
Thanks! :D
@@nat_479 Np!!
@@NotLikeOtherWarlocks
Please tell me it plays in the film proper, not just in the credits. 😅
Like don't spoil plot details, but it'd bum me out if such a good song got wasted on the part where most the theater is leaving lol
@Rad-Dude63andathird iirc it's an extra little scene. INK uploaded the scene onto TH-cam
YAYYY I LOVE HALLOWEEN VIDEOS! Also my Quinn plushie arrived, so I’ll be watching this video with the little goober :3
Same!!!!! My Quinn plush came two days ago and it’s literally the silliest thing ever
@ It is!!!! I have it next to my Rockstar Freddy plush currently and it looks so devious 😈
@ Geahhhahahah!!! 🦅🦅🦅
how did he feel about the quinn death scene at the end
@ The what 😨
Honestly, Watched terrifier 3 and it was just... boring?
I was bored by how this whole film felt like it didnt have any substance or goal, just mindless gore and blood.
It only relied on shock factor and thats it.
Perhabs just not my cup of tea
Splatter is my favorite genre of horror because everyone acts like it was made in the 2010's/2000's but it actually originates as a 1980's book genre called "splatterpunk". The idea of "horror without limits" is just so interesting to me mainly because of morbid curiosity and just how awful of a scenario someone can imagine and write/script. There are so many movies im surprised arent classed as splatter like pink flamingos and literally any movie the shameless company makes dvds of.
I’m glad you like The Wild Robot
I read the book in fifth grade and Kit Connor is my celebrity crush so a win win!
@@LegosWithLouis I also like the wild robot
It is a beautiful movie.
I don't get why people wanna watch a poor naked girl getting sawed in half.
Never seen it, only had heard of the death and thought it's a step too far.
I rather watch 'The Evil Dead' two more times. I'm 16 by the way.
I can come up with brutal death ideas, but if I were to direct, I would mainly use them as stories to have the audience create the pictures.
But there would be some gory bits, but I would make them stylised like 'Kill Bill', just the blood would be darker.
l feel like Terrifier hate is so forced honestly. I don’t know about you but I appreciate a movie thats willing to push the limit, and watching Art the Clown be so depraved the entire movie then getting his @ss handed to him towards the end is so cathartic.
Despite what people say, the movies DO have a plot and a story. Though its not clear and requires a little theory crafting to grasp, its there for people who really wanna understand it. The franchise isn’t even finished yet anyways.
Definitetly agree with this. The criticisms are so inconsistent too - a few comments above yours, someone said it's weird to like Terrifier because it's just gore for the sake of gore, but then in the same comment said they liked the Saw franchise..? A lot of these critisms like 'it's X for the sake of X' feel so empty, seeing as it implies a thing can't simply be a thing for its own sake, and it falls apart when you start comparing it to other similar movies that are also just X for the sake of X.
Had a halloween movie marathon (Which had terrifier 2) until 2am and now watching this at school while sleep deprived lmao
omg??? i have today off because halloween was yesterday
@@joshuamelgar6251 what im so jealous
I’ve met the director, the actor for Art, as well as a few other members from the cast of Terrifiers 1 and 2, and it was at a horror convention. You see brutality on screen from movies ranging from The Thing from 1982, to Mandy, which is more recent, to movies that come before The Thing, and all the way back to Terrifier today. There are films that are pretty grotesque and arguably “too obscene to be allowed”, one movie that I haven’t seen but have heard fits that description is A Serbian Film, but even then, as far as I’m aware, it’s just another movie meant to instill horror in the viewer. For most of what I’ve mentioned, these movies give you everything you could possibly want to satiate your horrific, depraved, or curious mind, and the beauty to these works are the writing ideas and the fact that these are filmed using special affects that leave the casts for the most part: unharmed. Even bettering the lives of those profiteers financially. The reason to create horror or graphic content is to exercise what ideas you have come up with, and try to garner a reaction from your audience. You can find one thing or another distasteful, but objectively, where there’s no harm, there’s no foul.
I made a few spelling, grammatical, and full on misplaced word errors. But I hope my view is legible. I thought your video was good and I wish you the best!
As someone who's waaaaaaaaaay too chicken to actually watch these movies (although I love horror in general, the gore levels here just sound a touch too high), this video has gotten me extremely invested in the plot and themes, particularly Sienna's arc. I almost wish there was a fan-cut of the movies that cuts around the gory bits, something like "Terrifier: The Plot Cut" although ik that's kind of an insult to the effects work and to the people who like the gore, for me I would love to watch the parts of the movies that delve into character and plot stuff but wouldn't know where to skip around to avoid the #gross.
Anyway thanks for making the video, it's great!
something that must be said re: woman's deaths in horror films in general (not just in terrifier)...horror is the only genre of film, maybe even the only genre of fiction, that is not only allowed but Expected to be actually honest about violence under patriarchy. its in a heightened and fictionalized way, but women and others subject to patriarchal violence, especially the subconscious need to be prepared for violence of some kind in so many situations, will find more honesty about their experiences within many trashy slashers than a lot of prestige films in other genres that would rather paper over it. to me one of the things horror is best at saying is "you're not crazy, your experiences are valid, you're not an inconvenience or a bummer for rightfully pointing out the ways in which you are made to fear on a daily basis." its not the only thing i want, i often also want escapism from these forces, or healing from them. but the pure honesty ingrained into horror is refreshing in a world that often seeks to belittle you for attempting to articulate why you feel unsafe
Yes, horror movies are actually pretty realistic to what women could go through in the hands of an evil man. Not only an hour ago, I saw a woman who was a burned victim. Her ex-husband set her on fire, and the police officers still let him walk free.
That seems like a horror movie right there. Most true crimes I've listened to seem like an average slasher/gore fest movie. To an extent, fiction takes from reality.
These movies honestly show the truth and horried reality of women. That's why I also think most women like them. It can be a coping mechanism, a way to explore the dark in a safe, contained way.
@@2dents513I completely understand this take but also
That message is NOT why women endure torture porn gore fests in horror movies. We have to know that. It is _not_ to ~represent the authentic female experience~ it's so the director can get off on women in pain.
*Not specifically calling out Terrifier for this, just the genre as a whole.
Whole lot of yap just to say you want to find bigotry in something that clearly doesnt have it
@@Miniike this is a really good point. however, I think it fails to recognize how these movies can be part of the problems that women face when they show the female victims in objectifying ways. it’s brilliant that women can find some comfort in these films through their own interpretations, but I highly doubt that these directors are concerned with accurately representing a woman’s experience on purpose. a lot of the time it’s simply to exploit violence against women for money and outrage.
but the conversation around these films is very nuanced and I like that you brought up a good point rather than the common “well it’s not real so who cares” kind of argument (which is typically used by men bc they aren’t affected by these issues and therefore don’t really take it seriously)
@@quandaredevil i agree its important to keep these things in perspective! there are many legit connections to misogyny, its something that needs to be questioned and challenged in new works of horror that are made. we live in a patriarchal word and pretty much all popular culture is tinged with patriarchy, and the only way to change that is to understand these things honestly. we should definitely be aspiring towards a better world. but as we live in the world we do currently, i think its important to lend a sympathetic ear to the places where our emotional needs are met in a way that the outside world often doesnt come close to accomplishing. all types of marginalized people are left to navigate a culture that is hostile to them, and ultimately what i want for them is reasons to stay alive, in spite of everything, which they (certainly i) often find in unexpected and imperfect places. everyone should have both the dignity of both a better future and being allowed to navigate our dark present to find comfort and survival in whatever way works for them. we deserve a lot better than what we have, but we also deserve more than nothing. ultimately what unifies all aspects of this is that they need to be thoroughly understood rather than dismissed out of defensiveness 🙏
4:40 Not an artist, but currently crocheting a Gandalf plush for my college's Tolkien Society to make up for hounding them for interviews for a journalism project. His head is turning out way too big but nevertheless I persist.