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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2022
- I sat down with Jim Klump, veteran wildland firefighter, old-school Redding Smokejumper, and District Fire Management Officer on the Plumas National Forest for 25 years. We talked about the intersection of fire and forestry, land management, people, leadership, and history.
We also talked about PTSD, firefighting tactics, landscape-scale backfiring operations, climate change, immigration, the culture of the Forest Service in the 1960-present, and prospects for the survival of our wildfire-threatened rural communities.
This multimedia video features Google Earth map animations, historic aerial photos, historic photos from UC Davis and CSU, Chico, and aerial video from the Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center.
We enjoyed watching our neighbor from the Big Bend Ranger station days. Getting “Klumped” was a referral to his playful side. So enjoyable seeing his thoughtful and knowledgeable wisdom. Good job Jim👍
I remember longline-ing his Klump Pumps off a fire on the Mendocino. Had a chance to chat with him. I’d love to see more interviews with these retirees.
Thanks Lookout, your most impressive work yet. You have made a valuable tool to help educate the masses.
If I may... Salute Div 3, Chief Klump it's amazing to see ya still lacing your boots. May you teach us all for years to come. The Lord broke the mold with you.
Amen...I met Jim Klump in Yellowstone (1988) on the NorthFork fire--he was our Ops Chief. Memorable man--loved the interview.
Thank you. You are the only one. I am from Greenville and a firefighter from Chico and I now live Ashland. Our watershed is scary. I hope to meet you someday.
Gratitude to you two wizened men of fire and the forest for so conversationally relating your insights and realities. Great example for the up and coming generation. Listening to the voice of experience is a rare occurance in society these daze. Thanks for this.
Live in Mt. Shasta for 30 years, really appreciate this local conversation, thanks!
Welcome Jim Klump. I've been in my place 40 years and putting roots down is great. I had to look at maps to locate Forbestown. I so enjoy the historical perspective here. You two present a unique fire tutorial in this discussion. Learn and teach. Thanks for sharing guys. Hi J and E.😚🐈🐈🐈⬛💕♥️🇺🇲🔜👊
Thank you, great interview, has me considering a career in forestry.
Another great video, thanks! I lived in Etna for a few years as a young child, 60 years ago I can remember my father, who worked for the FS during the summer building trails, saying the biggest mistake was not burning every year on purpose to keep the fuels down.
PTSD is real. It has a real affect on peoples lives. I’m glad y’all bring it up.
Thank you so much for making these concepts easy to understand, and thank you for the excellent interview. Lived experience is invaluable.
We have lived in the Northern California foothills for over twenty years in a now designated high fire danger area (where our homeowners insurance has recently increased by over $600 per month). We are fortunate to own equipment that helps us in our fire prevention efforts on our six acres and Wish the general public was able to more easily access this info. Thanks again.
Great conversation. So much to be learned from his life and experience. Politicians are in charge but they have no connection to the reality of the world they are in charge of.
There is so much to learn from these older guys with experience and connection to the land. New technology in combination with guys like this experience, knowledge and leadership would be great.
I agree completely!
Great interview, and thank you very much for intercutting maps and other images, it really helps for those of us who are not locals
This was a special discussion. Seems there are eyes and minds that need to open and change that must happen. Thank your to both of you for sharing this talk.
A great informative conversation I’m definitely going to listen to again. Thanks so much and if there’s a longer unedited version please please post it.
This is invaluable.
Two summers ago we had wildfire in Western Washington which is practically unheard of. It’s real for all of us in the West now.
Thanks for your hard work Sirs!
Incredibly thorough and wise conversation. These talks are what will save our planet. Thank you for allowing us to listen and learn from experience.
This is gold, and I really wish I could sit every smart-ass know it all arm chair forester/firefighter down and make them watch it. More importantly, I wish the concepts were being implemented while we still have forests that can benefit from restoration.
Great interview! I've known Jim for several years and he knows what he's talking about.
Great interview! I salute you both! Stuff of legends.
Great discussion
Awesome conversation.
Enjoyed the interview, thanks for sharing.
Great interview. thanks guys
Thanks Zeke, for another great educational video, comprised of a lifetime of on the ground, hands-on experience…well seasoned with wise words & forward thinking!
Have been tuned in since finding you during the Dixie fire or maybe one before that.
Anyways finally made time for this interview, should be required viewing for any Californian within 100 miles of a forest.
Great Interview!!!!!
Please take a drive up Highway 88 from Jackson to South Lake Tahoe where the Caldor fire last year was and tell us what's going on. They destruction is unbelievable from the highway. In the unburned areas in some places they are thinning the trees in other areas there is a massive amount of fuel. In Desolation Wilderness it's interesting to see the burn patterns.
Would really like you take a look and give your perspective on what's going on.
Honored.
Powerful! Wise!
Two really amazing, honest, knowledgeable, vulnerable men.
...Excellent and emotional interview from a very experienced practitioner - I studied Forestry in college and involved in fire prevention early in my career. I ended up leaving the industry and entered the energy conservation industry. However the forestry experience led me to believe and experience what Mr. Klump is talking about - that 'negative stuff' he is talking about did exist - Mr. Klump appears to be a very wise man. I have to say the same conditions exist in the utility industry and that is changing too. Mother Nature forces change.
Got directed somehow or other to your video, which was fortunate. Anyway, I don’t pretend to know anything about forest management and fires in general but one thing that struck a chord with me was when you guys were talking about defending your own residences at about the 24 minute point. For the life of me, I keep looking for videos from anybody on how to defend your property. Not just the cut-the-brush-down videos but real guys like you or Jim showing us what to do when a fire is raging right toward your place. You know, all the details: what to wear, how to prepare your house, what type of tools, water tanks, fire retardant covers, holes to jump in to save yourself or whatever. I for one want to know how to do it. Some real situation videos with fires raging would also help. The closest thing I could find were some instructions from Australian fire people on what to do. How come there’s nothing out there like that? Of course, explain the risks also. Give people a choice.
Thanks for the vid, kevin
This was such a great education! Thank you!
Absolutely fascinating talk here!
Wow, this is so interesting. We certainly need to take better care of our forests. Why aren't we?
Thanks for this.
Great interview. You are both preaching the same environmental philosophy I grew up with. Public opinion cannot continue to dictate policy.
Always like watching your stuff. I was just up on the Applegate on the OR/CA boarder not far from the Yeti fire. Everywhere I go there's too much fuel! Just a matter of time til we get a giant fire in there that burns from CA to Ashland, Medford and Grants Pass, similar to the giant fires CA had last year.
Brilliant, thanks for sharing this! Cheers 🙂
It’s sad when these types of candid conversations can’t be had in a forum that would embrace what is said and allow different opinions to be the genesis of a productive solution to the fuels management problem of California forests.
great interview with Jim.
Can you do an episode about algae blooms?
I live in South Lake Tahoe and we’re currently experiencing a bloom now. What is the best way to handle this? Is it blooming because of retardant drops during caldore fire? Anything we can do as citizens?
Thanks very much for excellent reporting and a quality and interesting interview. I watch all of your episodes.
Maybe Regs Could Also Help Stoke, Maintain and Enforce Working Relationships That Nurture The Most Effective Fire Fighting Techniques Across The Board / Forest To Forest To Ownership? Maybe?
Very interesting, thank you!
The whole interview was great, but the best line was at the end. (1:08:29)
There were alot of best lines, and that was also the best of the best lines to end with!
Great discussion, my dad and I have been maintaining our ranch up in Alta, he’s been doing fuels reduction for 40plus here. It never ends and private land owners need to understand it’s their responsibility to take care of what’s yours. The government won’t do it for ya.
I think people are realizing now that, what's left of the forest, is too heavy with fuels and just going in and burning would be way too intense. They need to first thin it out to reduce the fuel load and then go in and burn it to get it back to a healthy maintainable condition. But the need to do this on a large scale, much larger than they are doing now.
Wow! like it was and how it is.
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The "Ents" dont need our help. The forests take "our ashes" and recycle it with "new" life . We come from the "land" and we go back into the "Land". We need more forestry people like we need more poli-sci majors. You'll see and very soon
Old smoke jumper and a bother in are country
Bahahaha rotting wood is bad for the environment....we're done here.
Very enjoyable and always interesting conversation, as always, when talking with Jim. We go way back to Truckee & LaPorte RD’s. I miss that guy