Brian Boru Irish Pipe Band at the Minnesota Scottish Fair (bagpipes, pipes and drums)

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  • The Brian Boru Irish Pipe Band of St. Paul, Minnesota takes the field at the 2007 MN Scottish Fair
    www.brianborupipeband.com
    CD available at www.cdbaby.com/bbipb and MP3's available on iTunes
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  • @pacman1412
    @pacman1412 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great to see people of Irish origin keeping the Iirsh piping tradition alive and well. Here at home there seems to be a big revival of piping again and the wearing of the kilt's for weddings again.
    Long live Ireland

  • @Noetic22
    @Noetic22 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im actually a spanish celt!
    long live the celtic ppls!

  • @skodaoctavia4778
    @skodaoctavia4778 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gaelic culture at it's finest.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @irishhistoryman With respect, The earliest Irish mention of the bagpipe only dates to 1206, approximately thirty years after the Anglo-Norman invasion of Ireland. The first pictorial representation of Irish mouth blown pipes is in 1578, which of course was a lesser, more simplified two-drone pipe.

  • @ernstbecker1
    @ernstbecker1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @biglil73 Wrong ! Your speaking of the Ulliean Pipes which are intended to be played in parlors. Scottish Warpipes have a base drone and two tenor drones. The Irish pipes have one base drone and one tenor drone.

  • @HighlandPiper1485
    @HighlandPiper1485 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proud to be Irish with a Scottish instrument

    • @rapier1954
      @rapier1954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is not a Scottish instrument.

    • @test-201
      @test-201 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rapier1954 its certainly not irish

  • @brianboruirishpipeband
    @brianboruirishpipeband  15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Battle of Waterloo (with Intro), followed by Pikeman's March and Intercontinental Gathering

  • @shamrock4500
    @shamrock4500 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best I've heard on youtube, and I like your oufits.

  • @ernstbecker1
    @ernstbecker1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gibobaggins The Saffron Kilt was also worn by the Irsih Puipers Band of San Francisco, crica 1966. I was a piper with them.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Around 1900, a most ingenious businessman entered the stage and began to create his own Irish myth. Mr. Henry Starck, a London manufacturer of musical instruments and of Jewish persuasion, saw a brilliant business opportunity. His ancestors had come over to England with Handel to produce woodwind instruments. Henry was in partnership with one William Ross, Queen Victoria's piper. Ross was a big figure in the Scottish piping world, supplying all her majesty's Scottish regiments with pipes, etc.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    When William of Orange's rival, James II arrived to Cork City in March 1689, he was received with piping and dancing. On his arrival to Dublin, 'the pipers of the several companies played the Tune of The King Enjoys His Own Again' this echoes Dunton's Co. Kildare wedding celebration 'bagpiper and blind harper that dinned us with their music, to which there was perpetual dancing' cited a decade later... After the Williamite wars, the Irish 'wild geese' brought the pipes to Europe...

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alexander Macaulay in 1936. Macaulay wrote in 1968 that the instrument was similar to the contemporary Highland set at Blair Castle, said to have been played at Culloden. Timoney even offered a cash reward to anyone who could find the actual set, which no doubt will be retrieved from the museum's archive at some stage. From the mid-eighteenth century onwards the adoption and continual evolution of the pipes in Ireland is seen in the use of union/ uillean pipes.

  • @TheSCOTCHSOLACE
    @TheSCOTCHSOLACE 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Tribute to Brian Boru - Irish Hero!

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Archibald Campbell, in his additions to The Notices of Pipers, reminds us that, in an attempt to give piping in Ireland some kind of pedigree which it never had, Flood invented a whole history for the instrument and presented his entire package with a marked prejudice against the Scottish Pipes. The Irish fell for it. In 1924, their regimental newspaper, The Faug A Ballagh contained articles from the sergeant's mess and pointed out a new fiction, that Irish piping was headed for great things.

  • @pifapastoral
    @pifapastoral 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Timothy Kenna was a noteworthy maker of Irish pipes in the 18th Century followed by his son Thomas in early nineteenth century. Many of the Kenna pipes are still in use and produce a particularly sweet and mellow tone.
    Robert Reid, a Northumberian smallpipes maker from 1760 - early 19th Century also produced particularly fine sets of Union pipes. By mid 19th Century a succession of Irish pipemakers were producing. After the Famine Michael Egan established a business in Liverpool and New York

  • @matthewcarey3148
    @matthewcarey3148 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The saffron kilt is traditional Irish.

    • @wolfthequarrelsome504
      @wolfthequarrelsome504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would say it's just about... Invented about 100 years ago.

    • @gatolian55
      @gatolian55 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfthequarrelsome504 nooo, mucho más

    • @matthewcarey3148
      @matthewcarey3148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pat Aherne Ha! I didn’t mean to suggest this went back a thousand years, just that the color is associated with the Irish.

    • @Svartalf14
      @Svartalf14 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is interesting... I've been interested in Irish culture for decades, attended the Interceltic Festival in Lorient several times, twice for its whole 10 day duration (I worked there), and spent 1 year in Ireland as a student, and this is the first time this fact has cropped up.

    • @poundlandbandit6124
      @poundlandbandit6124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfthequarrelsome504 is a modern garb based off what the medieval Irish wore. Same as the modern Scottish kilt a Victorian invention.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    William Ross later passed away and his partner Stark took over the business. Starck was no fool. He saw a new market and in 1902, took out a patent with O'Duane for a new Irish chanter that allowed a full chromatic scale with four keys! Starck's next step in 1908 was the publishing of a tutor for the new modern made up Brien Boru pipe. He took a step further, going to all the Irish infantry regiments, convincing the young Anglo Irish officers that by tradition, they needed a pipe band.

  • @murf69
    @murf69 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for that

  • @KJT922010T
    @KJT922010T 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    love being Irish

  • @Seamus616
    @Seamus616 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Gaels are a specific branch of Celts. Based in Ireland, Scotland and Manx. They originated in Ireland

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @HeatProtection, Yea the 'Pennines' came to mind straight after I posted the comment lol, I think basically it's like a scale of high to low and vice versa, the more north you are, the higher up you are, and the more south you are the lower and flatter the land, in England's case, higher ground will cover northern parts and parhaps parts of the midlands even, obviously there's exceptions on both sides of the border though.

  • @jaysonwilliams3938
    @jaysonwilliams3938 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for centuries those pipes and the irish peopel behind them represented loyalty and good will

    • @baddow1654
      @baddow1654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tiocfaidh ar la

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the Island. This culture interacted with continental influences (including the peoples who populated what is now Scotland, Wales, England, France North Western Spain etc) both sometimes absorbing and sometimes influencing aspects of their cultures. This was a continuous process right up to and including Iron Age and into the historic period. Thus we Irish are (in the main) direct descendants of the 'Sandelian' and 'Larnian' peoples with later mixes thrown in...

  • @Giddeshan
    @Giddeshan 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes and no. Both Highland Scots and Irish wore a similar garment called a léinte. It was essentially a long shirt that was belted around the waist and the bottom part was pleated and hung to around the knees. After Ireland was conquered the léinte was banned so the Scots developed it into what we see today, adding the tartan and sporran etc.
    So yes since its derived from a common garment, no since its a Scottish adaptation of that garment. Its pretty much the Pan-Celtic garment anyway.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this means that by the time, Mount Sandel, Lough Boora, Castleconnel and other sites were up-and-running (c.10,000 years ago), these people were already well established in Ireland in that their implements were already displaying a character of their own. The Earlier settlements may have been coastal and may have been since inundated by rising sea-levels. Additionally recent evidence seems to point to the final land-bridge existing between what is now Wexford / Cornwall /Continent

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picts - It is asserted that OGAP4 best represents the Pictish ancestry of Scotland. While there is no fundamental genetic difference between the Picts and the Celts, i.e., both being R1b, they are both from the same mixture of Iberian and European Mesolithic ancestry that forms the Pictish/Celtic substructure of the Isles.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @irishhistoryman 1. If the earliest known mention of 'Irish pipes' dates to 1206, 30 years after the Anglo-Norman conquest of Ireland, what is the likely hood that they didn't introduce it to Ireland?
    2.I never said that it was a native practice to the Anglo-Normans, I merely pointed out sources that often state it was first brought to Ireland by them, *not that it was even theirs in the first place.
    3.It's generally accepted that the Irish never took to piping at first anyway till much later.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @HeatProtection, Right enough, I see you're from Manchester, I spoke to a guy from there two years back and he was telling me that Manchester was more higher up and hilly in comparison to most English landscape.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gazzas46z, The Normans only conquared half of Ireland, half of Wales and the whole of England.
    In Scotland they were actually invited as part of the Scottish aristocracy, Norman Knights were hired by the Scottish King at the same time for a while.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scotti = Latinisation of the ancient Greek word Skoto (Darkland) that originally referred to what's called Scotland anyway, it originally was used to later describe the Scottish Picts in Latin scriptures.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whether called the Irish Modal Haplotype or the “Ui Neill haplotype” as in the Trinity College paper, the North-West Irish Haplotype by David Wilson et al, or R1bSTR19Irish as defined by McEwan (2007), it corresponds to OGAP8 in the Oxford data. A strong migration of OGAP8 to the Argyll area may be explained by the Dal Riada migration or as Sykes notes “Ar-gael was coined by the kings of Dal Riada for their three colonies - Mull, Islay, and Kintyre peninsula.”

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gazzas46z Con't, Also the 'Uilleann Pipes' originate from the original 'Great Scottish Pipes' (like the ones playing in this video), the Uilleann pipes were only invented in the 1880's by an Englishman from London who took the Great Scottish pipes and made a lesser, more softer variation of it called 'Union Pipes' to celebrate the union between Scotland, England and Ireland, it was later adopted by Irish republicans in the 1900's, historically hi-jacked and Gaelicised to 'Uilleann Pipes'.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @thecrusades2 I have cited from primary sources: 12th Century Book of Leinster poem 'Aonach Carman' and old Irish poem distinguishing between woodwind and bagpipers performing at the 10th Century fair at Wexford (Loch Garmain in Gaeilge)... The Statutes of Kilkenny 1376AD - banning Norman's from partonising Irish pipers, John Derrick's drawings of Irish pipers leading Irish soldiers into battle in late 16th Century etc. Only to be met with the Timoney mantra '1206AD is the first Irish reference'

  • @richydignam
    @richydignam 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @nashvilleballet sorry your wrong and I'm Irish
    The Great Irish Warpipes (Irish: píob mhór; literally "great pipes") are an instrument that in modern practice is identical, and historically was analogous or identical to the Great Highland Bagpipe. "Warpipes" is an English term; The first use of the Gaelic term in Ireland is recorded in a poem by John O'Naughton (c. 1650-1728), in which the bagpipes are referred to as píb mhór

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    17) I love Scottish music, language etc but am deeply passionate about my own culture, history and the fact that we are a sovereign, democratic republic coming to grips with a violent and often disturbing past
    18) Lets keep religion out of the equation, I well recognise the nuances of Irish history and have published them in other forums
    19) Ireland and Scotland share many cultural links through history including sister native languages, our last high king (Bruce's brother), galloglasses etc etc

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @seonidh ... dated from antiquity to approximately 1079AD under the patronage of the Kings of Leinster under whose patronage Leabhar na Nuachongbhála was compiled

  • @SnareKidJoel
    @SnareKidJoel 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool to see someone knows history. :)

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @irishhistoryman
    12. The Great Scottish pipes that are mimicked by others are Scottish (such as the one on this video) as well as the classical Scottish playing style (again, mimicked) that are both entirely indigenous to Scotland, you point out a list of dead cultures/nations that supposedly had their own instrument such as the Romans etc, you can apply this logic to absolutely every single instrument/invention and most basic objects in the entire world from all times of the universe.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gazzas46z I dealt with all his points (including Mount Sandel) in previous posts. As you sat there are numerous Earlier Mesolithic sites contemporaneous with Mount Sandel (which is the only Earlier Mesolithic 'base camp' site found so far). However Since the '70's PC Woodman and many other Irish Archaeologists have uncovered many many Earlier Mesolithic sites spread right across the country. The lithic industries at these sites are peculiarly Irish in character.... continued

  • @Arcangelo706
    @Arcangelo706 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW NICEEEEEEEEE

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @irishhistoryman Con't from 19), Another example you've used with this 'close link' we have with the Irish as you've said is Robert I of Scotland's brother, yes maybe, but many European monarchs went with other nations monarchs at the time via the benefits of diplomacy on promoting peace between our nations, we've had monarchy links with Norway, France and England too, Queen Elizabeth II (current) is Scottish too (through her Mother), Scotland's had several more monarch relations since Ireland.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @seonidh Whoever brought them to Ireland, it was not the Normans, (unless they had contact with Co. Wexford, prior to Diarmaid Mac Murchadha) - Aonach Carman ceased to be celebrated circa 1070 (a century prior to the arrival of the Normans in a military capacity). Irish contact with Europe (and the middle-eastern region) throughout the medieval period is well documented, presenting many opportunities for the adoption of pipes in Ireland - are you disputing the Leabhar na Nuachongbhála citation?

  • @murf69
    @murf69 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, I was aware of that.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respond to this video... Though incorrect 1206AD is a way earlier first reference date than that the first Scottish bagpipe reference (Irish first reference is 3 centuries earlier than 1206). In addition to The Book of Leinster and Derrick, Lucas Van de Heere painted Irish soldiers and piper in the first half of the 16th Century operating on continental Europe (which again Timoney tries to revise).. There are records of pipers fighting for Henry VIII at Boulogne in 1544 (Holinshed) quote...

  • @EclecticMuzik88
    @EclecticMuzik88 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Albainn1 Dude chill out. I'll give you kilts and pipe bands but bagpipes have been in Ireland since at least the 1500s (ever heard of the "great irish warpipes"?) and are likely to have originated in the middle east. There are also several different types of bagpipes throughout continental Europe, Northern Africa and the Persian Gulf. Clans also aren't exclusive to Scotland

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Con't, By now, one of the first things the newly formed regiment of guards did was to form a pipe band. Some said the new regiment should even be kilted! What everyone overlooked, was the fact that their was no native Irish music specifically composed for the mouth blown pipe that the Scots always had from the very start, so that new keyed chanter fit the bill quite well. Starck's son A.H went on to become instructor to the London Irish Rifles pipe band.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respond to this video... “In the same moneth also passed through the citie of London in warlike manner, to the number of seaven hundred Irishmen, having for their weapons darts and handguns with bagpipes before them” (English historian Holinshed May 1544)... additional primary 16 century sources for irish bagpiping are 1) A rough wood carving of a piper formerly at Woodstock Castle, co. Kilkenny and 2) the picture of a youth playing the pipes drawn Rosgall piper on the margin of a missal

  • @ernstbecker1
    @ernstbecker1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Albainn1 If caca was concrete Boyo, you'd be the main raod from Dublin to Connuaght -- both ways. The Safron Kilt as worn by this band is also worn by Irish Regiments. Have you ever heard of the Finton Lalor Pipe Band of Dublin? Years ago, crica, 1965, they were the only Irish band to win the Cowle Games. Never in Ireland? May be the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zeland and where else -- BOYO !

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dal Riada Celts - When considered in a narrow genetic sense, the Gaels of Ireland, as identified by the DNA signature of OGAP8, are as close as any group to being considered the root line and forbearers of Celts of today. When present in Scotland, it is suggested that OGAP8 represents the signature of the Dal Riada Celts.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @irishhistoryman 4. I wasn't talking about how 'Gaeilge' was spelt, I was talking about how it was 'pronounced', Irish language ver is pronounced "Gaylick", the Scottish language is pronounced "Gallack", if someone thinks if it in a sexual way well that says more about their thought processes than vice versa, I'm merely trying to illustrate their difference in vocal terms.
    5.Irish history may go back many thousands of years to the Mesolithic period, but actual Irish culture is another issue.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gazzas46z Again, Scotland's true name outside of Later Latinization is "ALBA" - A Caledonian Pict root word that is cognate with the entire British isles original name of "ALBION". Scotland only got used from the 900's onwards by Pictish King of Scots Constantine, plus prior to that, Dàl Riada was more a colony than a kingdom, it was also only 1/4 the size of Pictland, and later became subject to the Picts after Dàl Riata was destroyed by the Northumbrians in the time of Domnal.

  • @KyussWhitewater
    @KyussWhitewater 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually both the Scots and the Irish are Gaelic peoples. That means they are descendants of the Celts who migrated to different parts of Europe (Iberian peninsula, the British Isles) from what the Romans called Gaul (France). A portion of the Irish Celts then migrated to the northwestern part of Scotland and formed the kingdom of Dál Riata. Those "Dál Riatans" then intermingled with the native Pictish tribes to eventually form the Kingdom of Alba (Scotland).

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some Irish piping facts continued...
    To view the John Derrick woodcuts (called "The Image of Irelande, with a discouerie of VVoodkarne" ) online google "John Derrick" and select the link to the Edinburgh University library website. Even though the plates were used to lampoon the Irish, they do provide a 16th Century primary source depiction of Irish customs, dress etc that are of some use...

  • @bgrant64
    @bgrant64 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rory1947 , I don't think you would have the guts to repeat that statement in front of the Royal Irish Rangers whose uniform Brian Boru PB replicates. Actually solid colored kilts were worn for many years in the Ireland in the the highlands by the poorer people. Usually Hodden Grey ie The London Scottish.

  • @theatticboy
    @theatticboy 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm related to Brian Boru anyone else out there???

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some Irish piping facts as opposed to the fiction being touted by some here:
    1) Lebhar Na Núachongbála later known as Book of Leinster is a 12th-13th compilation of Irish verse and prose drawn from earlier Irish manuscripts and oral traditions. In it is found a dinnseanchas (place poem) "Aonach Garman" Garman's fair - Loch Garman is the Gaeilge word for Wexford - Pipes are referenced in this poem as a 12th Century instrument distinct from pipe blowers... more to come

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Celtic, Celt, Kelt:
    Common cultural, artistic and linguistic traits shared by ancient ethnic peoples. Area stretching from Galatia (Asia Minor) in the east to Ireland (in the west). This shared culture was perhaps shared much as what is known a the "western" culture is today is shared by many ethnically diverse peoples. Known to the Greeks as Keltoi (Hecataeus c.500BC) and as Celtae to the Romans (e.g. Julius Caesar)

  • @elemmir
    @elemmir 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every herding culture in the world has a type of bagpipe. It's what's left when you hollow out a goat or a sheep.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Con't...until the 1366 Statutes of Kilkenny put the Caedbosh on it, and that caused the Irish to forget the piping tradition that was introduced to them earlier. By now, the newly invented Irish piping had come under the scrutiny of Scottish piping circles, but sadly went on.

  • @emmamcmahon7099
    @emmamcmahon7099 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apparently I'm a descendant of Brian Boru.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gazzas46z, Look up the 'battle of Degastan' for reference.

  • @lumberjackyoho
    @lumberjackyoho 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the tune before Battle of Waterloo?

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @irishhistoryman *Examples I used on background ancestry was based on other Irish people I've spoken to.
    Another one is a TH-camr called 'BlackIrish1916', Irish born and bred but claims he has Jamaican (If I remember right) ancestry.

  • @DenseMetal
    @DenseMetal 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    where do u buy a kilt? ill wear that crap its awesome

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gazzas46z, Fair enough pal, as you can see, if you look up all the info provided, peice it together, it's all there.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On page 217 Sykes (Blood of the Isles) continues, “There has certainly been a substantial settlement at some time from Ireland in the recent past and the Irish infiltration into the west of Scotland is almost certainly the signal of the relocation of the Dal Riada from Ulster to Argyll in the first millennium.”

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes the association and distribution of Brochs, 'Pit' prefixes, 'Aber' and Scotland's true name "Alba" are all from Pictish root words that were suplanted into what's now modern "Scots-Gàidhlig" (Scots version is pronounced "GALLACK",
    the Irish version is pronounced "GAYLICK").
    Hence why there were many differences between the two languages along with similarities.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Con't...He reported back to Venice all he noted about the Irish, including their mode of dress, the colour of which, he called safron.To Vencentio Galileo, the Irish colour looked like that of saffron. English writers and soldiers soon picked up the term, so that a new piece of mis-information was added to Ireland's supposed dress tradition.

  • @firataydineyup
    @firataydineyup 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got a question then. there were irishmen in brave heart. but their kilts were tartan????

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Con't Around 1880, a new Gaelic awareness began to hit Ireland. A Celtic twilight instituted mainly by Anglo Irish residents. The country began to look for ties to other Celtic countries, and Scotland seemed to hold the greatest appeal. The Irish began to wrongly reason, because of the inaccuracies of the modern made up "Celtic" term (ancient Greek form was "Keltoi") from the 18th century that the Scottish traditions were theirs too. Which has of course created a harder distinction.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    There were no Scots, Britons, etc... just Earlier Mesolithic peoples (forager-hunters) migrating across the then continental land mass with Ireland being the only Island. The fact that by 8,000 BC, the peoples who arrived in Ireland were 1) well established across all of the geographic area of the Island, coastal, inland (riverine and lakeside), 2) had developed their own unique cultural expression (as seen in lithic assemblages and funerary rites) points to a unique culture evolving

  • @jonjeny
    @jonjeny 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DenseMetal scotland ...if you think a kilt is crap..dont wear it..only wear it if you like it..if you do like it and you want to wear it.. wear it with pride!!

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gazzas Con't, For example Tartan and Plaid are pure Scottish, but when Queen Victoria suggest Irish soldiers would be better wearing Kilted garments like the Scottish soldiers too, the Scots put their foot down initially and refused but later agreed as long as Scottish Tartan/Plaid was not used hence why Irish had dark brown maroon coloured Safron attire instead of the Scots Tartan attire design native to the Scots.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @seonidh Not sure what you're arguing 1) You said (contrary to primary source evidence) that there no pipes in Ireland prior to the Norman invasion. Then 2) you mention that the pipes appear all over Europe through 10th to 12th centuries (not disputed)... My point is that though not uniquely an Irish instrument, the pipes have been used in Ireland since 11th century... primary source information also supports a continued use right up to the adoption, use and proliferation of the uilleann pipes.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the origins of the word "Scot"... 12th C Lebor na Nuachongbála and 11th C Historia Brittonum referencing Lebor Gabala Erenn cite the Legendary beginnings of Irish history and the Irish race... Scota was the supposed daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh who depending on source was either the mother or wife of the progenitor of the Irish Race - Geytholos (Goídel Glas) from whom the word Gael (Goidheal) comes... thus "Scot" or "Gael" equally referenced the ancient Irish (incl. Dál Riada)

  • @va2gin
    @va2gin 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @strongarmofthepaw yes I am an American 1st but I can claim ancestors from Scotland (two different lines), Norway, Germany and even England (Mayflower period). How I word it: I am an American of Scotish, German, English and Norwegain ancestoral lines.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the ubiquitous presence of the Haplotype OGAP4 across Scotland Sykes writes... “There is no surviving mythology around the Picts…. Grampian and Tayside - is Pictland … The reason I cannot be more certain is itself very relevant to the myth of the Picts. It is precisely because they are genetically close to the Gaelic Irish that these estimates are so difficult. If they had been a relic people, a genetic isolate, then it would have been easy to distinguish them from Irish Gaels...

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gazzas46z, Again, the "Scotti" word, it's not a Roman Latin word, it's a Latinised varient of the ancient Greek word "Skoto" which the Romans Latinised to "Scotti" and defined it as "Speaker of Gàidhlig" - Which incl'd the Caledonian Picts of Alba (Scotland's real name) as the Pictish Kings supported Gàidhlig first, the naturally were reffered to as Scots in Latin documents, the term was carried into the English language as "Scottish" and was henceforth redefined once again.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    You not find a precise Gàidhlig equivilent of "Alba" where you've looked, but if you'd looked a bit harder you'd have found "Albainn" and "FirAlba" - "Men of Alba", which is widely believed to have been the closest to finding an Irish Gaelicised form of Scotland's real name in Caledonian Pictish which of course is "ALBA", however the Pictish Scots never changed it's original Pictish form hence why it remains the original "ALBA" -Still used to refer to Scotland today.

  • @KyussWhitewater
    @KyussWhitewater 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @elmarcoco you do know that the "iberian peoples" you mention are celts right..? They migrated from Iberia to Ireland.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Caesar referenced a tribal tripartite division of Gaul as follows: "Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres, quarum unam incolunt Belgae, aliam Aquitani, tertiam qui ipsorum lingua Celtae, nostra Galli appellantur"... the Celtic speaking tribe were called Gauls by the Romans. So the name Celt is not of modern but of ancient invention. Modern Celtic languages are divided into p and c variants with the p-variant considered older. Modern Gaeilge, Scots Gallic and Manx are c-variant

  • @elmarcoco
    @elmarcoco 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @KyussWhitewater we (Irish) aren't the descendants of Celts, we only adopted Celtic culture. There has been no evidence to suggest that we are related to Celtic peoples. There is a strong theory that suggest we are connected to the Iberian peoples (common blood type between Irish and Spanish). This theory is also supported through the Lebor Gabala which says the final settlers of Ireland were descendants of Mil Espaine or Milo of Spain

  • @goldenfugnugget
    @goldenfugnugget 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much "I'm better than you" and "I'm right you're wrong" in the comments here. I am proud to have Irish ancestors, end of story.

  • @TheScarecrow141
    @TheScarecrow141 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    do we know what the name of that tune was

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @seonidh Check your sources.... The book of Leinster, (Leabhar na Nuachongbhála), MS1339, Vellum, held at Trinity College Library in Dublin, is 12th Century and is the earliest manuscript entirely in Irish. "The book wa either compiled or transcribed in the first half of the 12th Century by Find (Finn) Mac Gorman who died in 1160AD..." Professor O'Curry; 'Lectures on Manuscript Materials of Irish History' - no appeal to flood being made..

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sykes says it best when he states. “Overall, the genetic structure of the [British] Isles is stubbornly Celtic, if we by that mean descent from people who were here before the Romans and who spoke the Celtic language. We are an ancient people …genetically rooted in the Celtic past. The Irish, the Welsh, and the Scots know this, but the English sometimes think otherwise.”

  • @jonathankernaghan9402
    @jonathankernaghan9402 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the name of the tunes

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Con't As far as is known, the Irish never took to the pipes, although it is felt today from the "Gaelic" revival of the early 1900's (Irish ver pronounced as "Gaylick"), the pipe never caught on. We know that in Britain, (coupled with early Scottish influence from before Irish immigrants abandoned Ireland) the Irish lived amongst the Roman army as victualers and that some lived with the Celtic tribes in England. Some actually invaded both camps. Still, the instrument seems to have been avoided.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    The channel between what is now Scotland and Antrim is too deep for the land-bridge to have been there (even when net Isostatic rebound and rising sea-levels are taken into account). However the channel of what is now the Irish sea was much narrower at that time so our first inhabitants may have come via what is now western / north-western Britain. Again at that time Britain was still connected to continental Europe via what is now the Dogger bank (North Sea) so at that time...

  • @Lillith444
    @Lillith444 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Irish pipe band?? They are playing Highland bagpipes which are Scottish. Irish bagpipes are played without a mouthpiece, the airbag is kept inflated with bellows.

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    At this time, in the ancient world. Saffron, taken from the stigma of the autumn crocus, is not indigenous to the British Isles. It had to be imported at great expense, and no one in Ireland could afford it anyway. Around 1581, one Vincentio Galileo (Galilei's father) did a report for the Venetian Doge. He was somewhat like the Doge's man in Havana, Ireland being part of his assignment. ....

  • @segano1
    @segano1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every note was played with an equal duration of the proceeding note, which produced a very un-Scotish, un-crisp, round sound. But this was of little concern, going on to plague Irish piping until the 1980's. What was of the greatest concern, was what uniform would be worn! It was decided to adopt the Scottish kilt, But what colour would it be?

  • @firataydineyup
    @firataydineyup 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    y their kilts are plain? is it because the r irish?

  • @MeinRhein1
    @MeinRhein1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those Scottish Highland Pipes they're palying? As far as I know, Irish Pipes do not have to be blown into, are smaller, and have a less penetrating sound than the Scottish Pipes. Is that entirely true, or is there a varation of the classic Irish Pipes that are closer to the Highland Pipes? Please don't jump down my throat about this - I am just curious and have no intention of provoking anyone with my lack of knoweldge on this matter.

  • @armydude2799
    @armydude2799 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    what tune is this?

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    However, more generally, I have already clearly noted that the term Celtic now more commonly refers to cultural, linguistic and regional patterns that have superseded any genetic definition.

  • @MrThingy3
    @MrThingy3 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @firemedic277 I know lots of Irish fellas who have and wear kilts from Ireland.

  • @irishhistoryman
    @irishhistoryman 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @seonidh Not so -deal with the primary source cited

  • @oneshotpaddy4604
    @oneshotpaddy4604 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brian Boru was called Brian Boru
    His decendents Ua Brien (it means grandson or something) which became óBrian and now O'Brian since English grammar has no use for a fada.
    Anyway, you get your surname from his Christian name.