Modifying our E92 M3 Competition | SCD Driven
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- Swapping out crew cars every few months is an enviable position to be in but the one thing we miss out on, is modifying a car, tweaking it over time to get it exactly how we want it.
It has been a while since you've seen our M3 on the channel as during the winter months we have been working through a list of upgrades and filming them as we go. Matt takes you on that very journey to see whether a few modest tweaks has made all the difference.
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I have an E92 comp in manual and absolutely love it!
Manual FTW 😇
I have one too! I just finished with the mods check it out on my channel
I have DCT and i love too :)
Evolve airbox mod and pre cat delete. Love the journey of modifying a car!
Airbox would be 👌👌
The old man had a manual e92 M3 in red and it was incredible. He got 430hp from DMS and a delimit, I can confidently say you’ll get 190mph out the M3 because I can tell you from personal experience... Without the remap the car can’t reach peak torque or power in 6th gear and would max out at around 160 in 5th however with the subtle tune it pulls 6th gear, hence the top speed. Akrapavovic exhaust would be my pick and an Eventuri carbon intake is a thing of pure beauty. Good luck!
Hey Sam thanks for your reply! Sounds like a lovely car, we would of gone for manual if it was a weekend car. Good news about the delimit, we’ll hopefully be able to let you know about that on the next Vmax200. Re exhausts, yes Akrapovic is up there and carbon airbox would be a dream!
TheSUPERCARDRIVER I personally love the sound of the S65 V8. Not as shouty as the 6.2 V8 from a Mercedes but instead it has a more, expensive sound and feel to it, like a little piece of motorsport up front. Had you considered the E90 saloon at all? Not driven one but some journalists (all trustworthy) preferred it because of its rear biased weight distribution.
Stock bmw claim around 180 ish so your mates was broken lol
@@RotrexfezST Nope, most BMs are limited to 155 (with speedo error giving ~160).
@@Assimilator1 supposed to be but they go more,dct m3 in 6th will surpass the 155 limiter and do 161 ish gps. Mine was clearly not stock I did 192 n/a before the charger and was 440hp. Stock no mods and the m performance drivers pack they do over 170 true speed.
That's my favorite M3. Drove one once and fell in love.
Exactly! What’s not to love?
@@scd A missing manual? Lol. I got lucky and the one I came across was a mt. It felt like this guy seemed to described...that just a few things could make it nearly ideal to a weekend back road warrior and a drivers car track dream....that also can haul the groceries 😆
My best friend has an E92 M3 MT. The car felt a little bit underpowered and sluggish in comparison to more torquey 1M and E39 M5, so he managed to put test pipes, underdrive pulleys, akrapovic axle-back and a tune. The gains were about 10-11% in power and torque, and the car is much more alive with that added midrange torque. I strongly recomend the test pipes when tuning these cars!
Other than that, maybe you'd get nice results in confidence and feel from PU bushings, a shorter final drive, solid subframe mounts.
Thanks buddy! Appreciate you taking the time to share that, we’ll deffo look into it. Know what you mean about how it feels, the power is all up at the top of the Rev range isn’t it. That said it’s not slow, just doesn’t feel fast
Totally different tuned engines, the e39 M5 has it's torque lower down, but that means less power. The 1M is bound to have more torque as it's turbo'd! The S65 is quick when used within it's powerband, 4-8k+ RPM, although it goes pretty decently from 3k+.
Test pipes might sound good but are no good for MoTs or track days! 😛
Looking forward to the exhaust update. Btw how much power did the stage 2 get out of the engine? Thanks.
Rajiv Kishore around 420-430 on a maha dyno 449 I made on a dyno dynamics
Yea, would've been useful to know!
Do you mind sharing camber and alignment specs?
I'd add adjustable rear toe links, a quality exhaust, underdrive pully, and one of the biggest differences (even though it's not cheap) is to go to a shorter geared differential. The difference gearing makes to E92 & E46 M3's is significant in offsetting the low RPM torque shortfall.
993mike this is so true. Shorter gearing on the M cars really wakes them up. How often do you need to go 300kph 🤷🏻♂️
How you done a stage 2 map with the stock primary cars still in place.
Something you may want to consider in the future is a square 18 inch wheel setup. Much more positive solid front end with the wider wheels and takes out some of that limit understeer.
thedownshiftchannel will look into this too, thanks buddy
Don’t forget to do the rod bearings. Not sure what the mileage is but better sooner than later. Extra power plus track time is just begging for catastrophic failure lol. Love the car though. It will sound incredible with an exhaust.
Axis 527 👆🏻👆🏻also maybe throttle bodies too
Axis 527 think rod bearings have been done but need to check the file. Thanks for the advice though 🙏
This is still a fabulous watch. 💙
loving the brakes, might have to grab myself some of those too to be fair, you're right about the OEM ones, they suck.
I’ve ran the same K sport kit on my M3 for about 3 years now with no problems but be sure to clean them maybe every 6 months just to stop dust build up in the calipers because it will make your life hell when it comes to a pad change
That’s cool to know! Thanks for the tip and happy motoring 😎
Amazing road
GT4 Front Split would be welcome as well, high speed corners, specially. Also beauty, btw.
I can't wait to be chasing this down in the countryside soon!
You know it Ashley 🙌🙌
Well done guys, great production, cars not bad either 👍🏼
Thanks Alex! Plenty more to do. Have you done a rear seat delete?
Love it, desperately needs an Akrapovič exhaust, get those rear seats out and get a cage in👌
We’re on it mate! Rear seat delete might as well happen
E92 m3s in manual is always a game changer more connected with the car😎👌
I went to Evolve Automotive and they fitted test pipes, along with the stage 2 remap and GTS gearbox update-transformed the car in my eyes. I also had the OEM mod done to the exhaust, coupled with the test pipes, it sounds insane 😍 potentially a little loud for the track however!
Any videos? Most of the days we take this to will be unsilenced
TheSUPERCARDRIVER got a couple mate, where can I share them?
Mike Difford love to see the test pipe sound. I hear it’s like a full exhaust with your oem mod!post them on your YT mate
Finally.. someone has done a proper video with baseline testing and then upgraded parts where needed.. 👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it! It has been fun and we won't be stopping there and will be documenting the process as we go :)
Except they didn't show a dyno for the st2 tune.
Before and after dyno graphs would be a good add!
Love these tasteful tweaks! Could you please share the mounting gear (±sliders) that you used for the Corbeau seats? Thanks for the great video.
Great review! I had an E92 M3 a few years ago, sold it and looking to get another one. Had the M Performance exhaust and loved the sound but it might be too civil for what you're looking to build. If you're installing test pipes for a true stage 2 tune, check out the Eisenmann Sport muffler or Race if you want to really up the volume. The combination makes beautiful music!
Meisterschaft is by far the best sounding exhaust for the e92, turns the v8 into an exotic
Thanks for sharing, nicely put together..hope your getting a few quid off for the product placement
Thanks for watching! We got a few deals but most are SCD sponsors so nice to actually be able to use their services first hand for once
Nice video, I enjoyed watching that
Thanks! glad you enjoyed it
Huge fanboy of this car! All of these mods are great for track days. My mods list would be:
- Rod bearings
- GTS DCT software
- Pulleys, some hp gain advertised but mainly for responsiveness
- BMC air filter, no real gains
- The famous 'muffler mod' for sound, not performance gains
- Bilstein B6 shocks with stock springs
- H&R sway bars
- 18 inch wheels with Michelin PS4S tyres
- Stock rotors but with upgraded brake pads and brake fluid, stainless steel brake lines.
- Replace bushes and install monoball front control arms
- Wheel alignment
Allegedly the main way to get more HP is through free flowing primary cats and the X pipe which deletes the rear cats. Can't wait to get this car one day.
This is brilliant content lads. The E92 is amazing, like you say it's not all about Carl Hartley and supercars. This is wonderful. More please. 👏 Would also have loved to have seen more content on E46 M3 CSL. Future projects maybe guy's? 😁
Think this is as close as we would come to a CSL!! Glad you enjoyed the content and it won’t be the last you see of the M3
Quality content and quality car - love the subtle tweaks and look of the brakes in particular.... would be great to compare against the M2 Comp!
Thanks! Yes deffo we’re up for that! Hope you’re well
@@scd Sounds like we need a plan of attack? Lets do this!?
Love ❤️ this car 🏎
This is the exact spec I want if I upgrade to a e92 M3 from my e46 zhp. Space grey with fox red leather and competition package. Has to be LCI too.
Things you could do :) anti-roll bars, headers w x-pipe, LSD w clutch and 4.10 ratio, 4.4 - 4.7 stroker kit. rear seat delete and roll cager. Only your imagination is the limit :P
Brilliant !!
Thanks!
Great video thanks for sharing . Just a quick question re the suspension . Surprised considering the level of changes you made that only a lowering spring was used for the suspension mods . These E92 cars go really well with a full coilover and really if tracking then I would say it is a must .
Thanks for watching! Fair shout, it’ll be more of a road car than track car so that’s why we went for that option. No idea on cost of coil overs?
Good video. I agree on the stock brakes - been caught out a few times by mine! Why did you choose grooved over drilled discs?
C B yeah I bet! Our stock brakes were poor and with our needs this was the first change, as Matt said if we only had to do one thing this would have been it. We were recommended by a close friend to try K-Sport hence going for the groved
Lovely!
How did you manage the airbag and seatbelt lights after installing the seats? Thank you
Well done guys, really well produced film. But....exhaust. Please. 🙏
Thanks for watching. Needs one doesn’t it!
Great video, do you know how much these springs lowered the car by?
Watch out with the k sports on track , made in Taiwan and you can tell after a few laps.
Great video for this car. Very well put together and presented.
I have to ask, do you feel the lowering springs have done a great deal versus standard comp pack set up?
Considering a similar route but thought it would just mean bottoming out on our roads more without much added handling improvement.
We’ll have to report back on that after a few miles. We finished the work late Feb and not had chance to get some proper miles on the car yet. Preparing to ground out on a few B roads 😅
@@scd Will it create more pressure on the EDC dampers with the shorter travel?
Lowering springs on stock shocks suck. Period. Really the only time this is appropriate is for looks, not for handling. It doesn’t make the car any faster.
Turning on notification Bella specifically for this very car 🤩
Awesome! What kind of cameras do you film with?
I also installed rear subframe and diff Polybushes, did rear seat delete and harnesses plus half cage...
Rear seat delete is very tempting!
How’d the bushings change the ride?
That's my car's color combo. It was interesting to see how the black seats looked with the rest of the interior.
ah cool! Great combo. Rear seats on ours will go eventually.
Great video, interesting to see what is possible with one of these cars.
The big question is, what were the costs of the enhancements?
Good question! We’ll tot it up and revert
Nice mods. What bhp are you getting from the car now?
...and I was just about to ask about why you didn’t do anything with the exhaust?? When I was considering purchasing one in 2010, I decided during the test drive that I would have to include an aftermarket exhaust in the budget 😉!Looking forward to the next video!
Haha yeah that’s the next mod for sure! Needs one doesn’t it but do love the engine sound inside the cabin
Intake noise is 👌, although CSL is 👌🎉☝️👍!
Where are you at with this car now? More videos on this beauty please!
How comes you guys didn't try the ever famous Recaro Pole positions? Very very cool video btw, I bought one back in December with the need for new seats and coilovers!
Also, did you find you could sit closer to the wheel with the new seats?
We did and would’ve loved a pair! It was cost mainly with everything else we had/have planned. Driving position overall is so much better, lower/closer but so much more support. Need harnesses next
I have an E92 M3 in space grey in manual, Great mods! Full exhaust next then? I have an Armytrix although I think it can be too loud at times! For the Corbeau seats what mounts did you use?
Nice example! Can’t beat space grey ;) yeah I think that might be too loud for us. PCI sliding mounts. GSM performance arranging fitting
Keep it clean don’t go crazy. OEM look
The usual playground, you must be there early or late to avoid the traffic. :)
This was a few weeks ago now but yeah it was quite early
I bought my e92 M3 used, and watching your video I’m ticking off pretty much the same mods that are on mine haha, I have Corbeau seats, BC Racing coil overs, decat with stage 1 tune, I’m pleased that my car matches your taste, only thing different is I have a yellow half cage with rear seat delete, and this makes sense with the non adjustable buckets because people can’t fold them to get in the back… maybe another mod for your car. Also if anyone’s reading my car is on 106k miles and it drives like new, these cars are extremely durable so don’t be put off by mileage, look for condition and major maintenance carried out BUT don’t buy one of these cars with a maintenance history showing engine failure as the cause, because that suggests the car wasn’t looked after, and a rebuilt bottom end is never a good investment on any car.
Evolve in Luton do a pretty decent job of bumping the E92's power, perhaps worth a call.
Thank you 🙏
did you not see the bit where they mapped engine and gearbox at Peron (probably best tuners in country/Europe) lol, why take it to Evolve where Imran uses mostly generic shit?
GTS tune is night and day difference. Weird that you dont feel that. First thing I did to my car. For daily driving, it gets rid of all the jerkiness. The car shifts noticeably faster for sure.=
Lovely car, would've been interesting to see the dyno results of the st2 tune though. And I'm not sure why you went for old-new (lol) Mich PSS when the Mich PS4S seems to be a better overall tyre.
Pity you didn't mention the cost of anything! Especially the brakes, I bet their braking power is as staggering as the price! 😉
Nitron dampers, carbon airbox, exhaust, BBS E88's with more meat on them, put in a call to Team Schirmer as well. Don't go forced induction.
Thanks!
I have the competition car in the exactly same spec of exterior & interior color , DCT transmission spec and built in the same year of your car.
You did the power pre-tune, but what about after?
Why not go for a KW Clubsport Suspension? Instead of just Eibach Springs? In adition I d throw out the Rearsears completly and install an akrapovic evolution exhaust. Brakes are awesome !
Since the rear seats are useless now the fronts don’t fold, would be interesting to see them ripped out to save some weight
Actually the removal of the rear seats doesn't change the car an inch. From experience 😉. That's in a ballpark of 25kg out of more than 1600, same difference with more or less petrol in the tank.
A cost run down would have been good
3:27 I wish someone could tell me the name of that song. 🤔 So chill...
How did you get to negative 2 degrees camber? I did not see camber plates in the video or did I miss them?
What paddles are those?? Lovely
They're from MMR Performance
I’m surprised you guys went for the old Supersport instead of the newer PS4S. Or Cup 2 for a little more track focus. What was the reasoning there?
marcuskuip we wanted PS4S but we can’t get PS4S all round and cup 2 is top track focused. This car will be leading drives in all conditions and have found Cups to be lethal in the wet
What kinda watch are you wearing when the car was complete while you were doing the test run…
i love my e92 2011 m3...but the m4! mmmmmmm
Do a rear seats delete! It saves significant weight and since the rear is not accessible with the new awesome seats, the rear seats are kind of useless!
Very true! Seems like a sensible next move 🙏
M3 signature dish. Going sideways
Says a man who knows 🧐😁😁
Speak to Chris at Mod Stock for your exhaust. He can mod the standard one and sounds even better than an aftermarket exhaust in my opinion
Thanks Darren!
Second that, Chris did an awesome job on mine!
Lighter and freer exhaust would be a thing!
shout!
12.5mm wheel spacers f and r.
Shout
No dyno post tune?
I have an e90 M3 w/ 6 speed,
I want more intake noise,
a little more exhaust noise.
nothing crazy,
then some suspension work...
looking at MCS,
crazy thinking...
rally mod it...
for fire roads...
Ko2's
skid plate.
Sounds wild! Keep us posted
I want to get an m3 aswell...turn it into a time attack monster.
Cheaped out hard on those brakes lol
They’ve done the job so far 🏁 why you think we needed AP’s l
Iv always been told that mapping an N/A engine is pointless but you seem pretty happy with the results, would you say it’s worth the money as I was considering it for my 3.4 Boxter
A not pointless as these with a decat and map make up to 40hp more.
It surely isn't worthless... but dont go for a preprogrammed map file , there's nothing to gain in those , and they dont live up to what they say they offer...
With those cars you need a full custom mapping done , and always add a 200/400 cell sportscat (or full cat delete)
Mapping a N/A engine wont give you the (sometimes) huge hp gains you get from turbocharged engine, but it will give you more driveability , the option to change the powerband and revlimit to your liking.
Still, they can add 20 - 40 hp on a well maintained , healthy engine !
And sometimes thats just what a car like an e92 m3 needs 🙂
When my civic ep3 type r still had its stock engine , 200hp , i did a full 3" exhaust front to back with cat delete, a quality custom cold air intake , and RBC intakemanifold , and a custom tune on a doctronic ecu.
Went from 200 hp to 248.3 hp.
Well, that changed to whole car ! I mostly gutted the interior aswell, so a 48 hp gain and a 54 kg weight difference made the car feel so, so special. And in races i've won from big 6 cilinder bmw's , stock r33 gtr's , evo's , etc....
Now my engine has been fully N/A built, every suspsension component changed , brakes , installed a quaife atb diff, the whole shabang...
Now producing 284.6 hp @ 8.900 tpm, redline @ 9.300 tpm , and removed another 27 kg.
Suffice to say it's an real miniature animal right now 🤪
Your 3.4 boxster will be a completely different car if you chose to do a full custom map, K&N Performance filters , and a full exhaust front to back with sportscat.... as you say 3.4, its probably a 987 or 981 boxster , i had a 981 boxster s (stock 315hp ) , i dynoed it stock and it had a very healthy 293 whp , as porsche always underquotes there cars hp. Adding drivetrain loss of 15%, means it had 336 hp stock 🙂
After some sharkwerks 200 cell sportscat, a full custom exhaust, and a custom tune , we've made 338 whp.thats 388 crank hp.
And really , it's a whole different car for not a CRAZY amount of money !
I would surely recommend it 🙂
AND if it's a manual, the best way to make your car feel way faster , is some shorter gears , or final drive ... cause the really long gears hinders the acceleration a bit. It will bring your topspeed down a LITTLE bit , but your not hitting that on a daily basis. So you'll have more of a sporty and involving feeling car!
All things combined ,It really makes a HUGE difference 😀
Enjoy your car mate, drive safe
When will the next update come for this car
Hmm, standard seats always seemed fine to me, height and support, done 4 track days too. Is it just me??
Should I trade my 2006 G35 Coupe 6MT in for an E92 M3? 🤔
Carbon trunk and hood and wheels
👌🏾💪🏾👌🏾💪🏾👌🏾👌🏾
akrapovic exhaust?
How is called the track that we see at 8:10 @Supercar Driver
akra!
akrapovic must be the first mod
Install the Eventuri carbon intake + carbon lid + carbon plenum. The sound it makes is from another dimension. Please don't install the Akrapovic exhaust, a waste of money for the awuful sound it ( doesn't ) make. The Eventuri full carbon intake will make you want to sleep inside the car. It's 5 times more intoxicating than the already awesome V8 sound the car makes.
Why not Pilot Sport 4 S ?
they don't do them in the sizes we require :(
@@scd Which size, please?
what about the exhaust??
That is next! What would you go for?
371whp is more like 430 crank... not sure how these guys did their math or if this is some different type of dyno. 371/0.85 = 436 crank horsepower when factoring in a 15% drivetrain loss which is actually conservative for a DCT
Those tyres looked like PS4S?
Yep 🙌🙌🙌
Carbon airbox
tempting but not exactly cheap!
Is it even a BMW anymore after you fondled with it
No it’s our project car 😅
Eh??? 371hp at the wheels is aver 430 at the crank. Modern Auto, RWD will loose about 15-17%.
I’m here to tell you right now the baseline dyno of “371whp” is fucking WRONG. With a full exhaust, intake, and tune these cars MAX at 355-375 give or take a few.
A legit bone stock baseline is prob 315-330
The first thing you should have done is change the big end bearings. Hope it doesn't blow up on you. Because it's not a matter of if but when.
I literally just finished my built on my E92 M3!!! Check it out on my channel
Ah awesome, will do! thanks