If Seth actually does get suicidal. His friends won’t be there for him anymore because he broke that trust now. They can’t tell if he’s telling the truth anymore.
@@sinoxi2493 what do you mean by that? I've seen enough from enough people to see Seth needs help. Everything that is against him would be insignificant if he didn't try to manipulate everything. He needs help
Hearing that Seth wasn't making attempts to change and better himself and instead was trying to sidestep everything is saddening. No self reflection, no attempt to change. It is sad. What a sad, awful person. Pitiable even, one might say. What a waste. Well. As they say, Karma always comes to bite you. It took too long to bite Seth though.
He was taken to the hospital by police for being suicidal they can’t tell others if ur taken without your consent so we have to go off of what he said and he was indeed in the hospital for being suicidal and none of the allegations are things you can’t come back from in life hopefully nobody wishes for him to really end himself
@@anonymous-go1tq Did you, like, actually watch the video and pay attention to what Swag was talking about though? Seth's story about being taken to the hospital by police has been brought into doubt by Swag's conversations with the police and them doing a wellness check. And considering he's a pathological liar I find it hard to believe much of anything Seth says at all. No I don't wish for him to actually end himself, but I highly doubt he even is suicidal at this point because of how manipulative he has proven to be. I don't believe Seth at all.
@@sirminty8495 I watched the video and agree Seth is manipulative and not a good person but what swag doesn’t know is him calling the police doesn’t mean Seth didn’t get taken away by the police they can’t disclose anything to do with that information so he very well could’ve been suicidal to the point the police took him away
@@sirminty8495 it’s like the little boy who cried wolf he definitely was in the hospital due to being suicidal that’s all that matters to me and there is no way of knowing if it was because he admitted himself or the police know swag doesn’t have any information regarding that
swag has always come off as the type of guy who always double checks his work and will make sure his audience understands where he is coming from. Seth has always been the type to go for “got’em” moments. It makes for good debates, but when discussing credibility swag always seemed more genuine because of his natural tendency to double check his own understanding and to make sure others know what he is implying.
Every time i saw a colab between Swag and seth, their chemistry was awesome and they seemed to be really good friends. To know that Motherfucker talked shit behind Swag’s back and literally used him for years is so heartbreaking, because Swag seems to be such a cool dude, and any bit of lore from Naruto I didn’t know, i learned from him, besides him having an Excellent taste in characters (Madara). So I’ve always really liked Swag and always will, and to see him get dragged into all of this is saddening
My thoughts and prayers are with seth’s victims I hope that each and everyone of them make a full recovery. Know that we hear you and that you are not alone
Bro it's really not that bad 😆 and as previous comment said his 'victims' are also not that innocent or vulnerable. This is more of friendship dramas that even the most affected get bored off sooner rather than later and see the silliness of it all once they mature a few years...only looks that serious cause it's million subs level public
the only victims of seth were the people who funded the naruto vs ichigo fight, and seths friends. there were no other victims. seth has also said that he has plans/has tried to make it up to the people involved. only thing we can do now is wait to see if he keeps his word
I'm so glad to hear that Clyde showing all this evidence and all these receipts has helped Swag be free of Seth's manipulation. I mean, to hear Swag on top of Clyde say "I heard this stuff, and it's truly psychotic shit." I mean Clyde, Swag, and their sources for a lot of these things that Seth did have known him longer and better than anyone else. At least on a professional level. I just hope that Swag and Clyde and all these other people that Seth has formed rifts between get to reconnect and collab again and rekindle sparks of friendships that will also help their channels and careers grow. Especially Omar. I mean, that man has been plagiarized and abused.
Here is some harsh advice from an old boomer: When someone tries to gaslight you to that regard like shown here, using suicide as a way to have power over people and wanting to get a foot in the door. Let them go, quite literally. Let them go to hell. It is not you guys responsibility to worry about that human trash. You did your part, you called professionals and all that good stuff. There is nothing else to do besides cutting the cord. Don't talk to this guy ever again. Move on with your lifes. You guys videos are awesome, put that energy in creating more. He is not worth the time.
Lol Imean Kaiba was trying to get his brother back 😂😂😂Seth could be compared to the person in a relationship threatening self harm in order to guilt trip the other into staying with them
I used to be a toxic person as a teenager but seeing Izanami made me want to do alot of self reflecting and philosophy. Also shout out to uncle Iroh for being an ideal i can aspire to
I don't get upset very often. It's HARD to really piss me the fuck off. But lying about suicide and using that as a weapon really pisses me the fuck off. I ran 8 years in the marine core. I fuckin lost multiple friends to suicide when we all came back from that bloody war. I don't wish death on anybody. I've seen enough of that. But LYING about it and using it against others just turns my stomach. It's the most vile thing you can do to another person besides assaulting them.
Every single part of this story sounds like Seth is genuinely disturbed and traumatized, genuinely narcissistic (and as such, he doesn’t even consider himself to be a narcissist) etc etc. every story y’all come out with make it more obvious that he’s not faking it. The way he gushed to someone else about hoping you don’t hate him, then acting unbothered when you reach out? That’s literally TEXTBOOK PSYCHOLOGY, he’s not lying, he seems deeply insecure about being perceived as “needing” swag back in that example, but that doesn’t make him missing swag any less genuine. Mental health isn’t “this OR that”, it’s “this AND that” while those sides fight over your brain
I agree. If you have been a jerk, sometimes you stay a jerk, even when pressured mentally. You actually become more of a jerk, because before, you have the mental capability to tone down your jerk self. Now, that capability is spent on fighting the mental pressure. If Swag cares about Seth and I were Swag, I would be very very careful about thrashing him.
@@ShadowbannedAccount yea and A LOT of this video is just unfair speculation being stated as fact. Idk man I think swag is hurt that he was lied to, and in turn has exaggerated all of the worst parts of any of this and ignored all the context of anything might make Seth not look as garbage as possible. It’s weird
No the textbook psychopathy is manipulating a stranger to feed the words needed to get in touch. Then he is unable to keep up the act since his goal is in reach and he doesn't actually give a fuck about swag.
@@MrDSyR I'm not sure if you watched the whole video or not but it's pretty clear from the context the entire purpose of talking to swag was to get him and Clyde to couch for him. In his own words it's all he wanted. Even if you say that's just what he wanted from Clyde, he still continuously attempted to use swag to bridge that gap.
Not gonna lie, I'm gonna go ahead and say it, but swag is TOO nice and patient with people. Clyde too. I don't mean it to come at them, I love both their channels, and hate Seth, but at this point, they know whats gonna happen and they still give fuel to the fire and hang onto a little grain of hope and give this PSYCHOPATH/SOCIOPATH the benefit of the doubt when they know nothings changed and nothing ever will change.
He’s not too nice hes just a good individual in general amd sadly there’s people like seth who will exploit and take advantage of that, I personally don’t think swag should change because of one evil persons action
I mean, if yall knew he wasn’t a pedo, and the pedo stuff came from Keem and that old bullshit doc, then why weren’t people open to saying that? The pedophile allegation is the only one that truly mattered at it’s core, everything else is drama
Not trying to make this about me, but I dealt with a similar situation and I just wanted to say that toxic friends are not your friends. If they’re not going to stick their necks out for you then you don’t need them in your life. I had a friend who I’ve known for almost all my life, elementary school - high school and a bit through college type beat. He always acted in a way where people would say they didn’t like him, but he had our friend circle and he was fine more or less. Around college time we started seeing more of the fucked up shit he would say or do. The easiest way to describe was, we all grew up, but he never did. He still acted like a kid with 0 responsibilities or 0 consequences for his actions. Anyway, a lot of arguments and shit later, we decided to break off from him quietly and he more or less got the idea that we drifting apart. A year later his dad died. We all felt really bad because his dad was a cool dude and they were close. We were his only friends and as a group we said we need to be there for him; maybe after seriously losing someone close to him, he’d value the people he has left and change. Nope, same person, arguably worse. Every time there was some conflict or disagreement, he would bring up how his dad passed recently. One time he mentioned how he’d use the money his dad left him to buy collectibles and Star Wars replicas that his dad wouldn’t approve of. It was so disgusting and shitty that we all decided to officially break it off for good. In hindsight we probably should’ve done it face to face, but we were so sick of him we did it over discord, full stop, completely blocked. Dude starts calling people’s families saying how he wants to talk to us or he’ll unalive himself like how Seth was doing. It’s wild how it’s been a few years since then but I’m better off for it. I’m not looking for sympathy but for other people to know that you don’t need that shit in your life. If you have someone like my friend or Seth who only sees you as a tool, or refuses to change for the better, cut them off.
This is a good post, sometimes talking it out and working through someone's problems is not a solution but rather cutting them off is the only way to heal and progress.
Honestly, the entire suicidal stuff just sounds like he was being super manipulative trying to get people to pity him or feel bad for him to start hanging out with him again using peoples concerns against them.
Don't worry. Consensus is usually in regards to legal prosecution. Also, if he asked to go on a call. There's a good chance that it warrants consent. Don't worry about it Swag.
I think using suicide as a "get out of jail" card with friends family and the public in general, is about the dirtiest thing a person can fucking do. It pisses me off learning what kind of person Seth is. I never cared for Seth to begin with but now I hate him and never want to see him again on TH-cam. Obviously I would never wish suicide on someone. I just don't want him to have a platform anymore he needs to go away
Seth explains he wasn't just throwing it around he was actually tryna kill himself dude was it the hospital becsuse of it he releasing his personal records
I'm genuinely surprised with Swag. Usually larger TH-camrs like Swag don't comment or take any position. I fully anticipated Swag to say "these aren't convictions only allegations" and "he was good to me so who cares"
legally they wouldn't tell you there are laws called hipaa laws that are in place for that specific reason, he could technically pursue legal action against them if they told you without his informed consent
Not only that but he’s giving Seth crap for saying he was in there for 4 days when it was 3 like bro he was in the hospital for being suicidal why u hanging on that
@@anonymous-go1tq i don't think thats what he was doing i just wanted to point out that fact cause he said "wouldn't they have said something" if he was forced to go he would have to go for a minimum of 72 hours (3 days). my statement is in no way to help, add credibility or defend seth's words, or actions. just clear up any misconceptions on how the mental health and some legal processes that go along with it are handled
@@kyuubixkurama9 I didn’t think you were but what I am saying is everyone involved is being manipulative swag is pretty much pleading ignorance to these facts which I do not buy at all
Yeah I’ve always thought it was weird when Seth would jokingly be jealous of swag and his subs when he wasn’t even in the video. Bro really was just using you for subs
Swagkage is the best! Seems like he did learn certain concepts from Naruto. That's just how I was when in highschool. Trying to see the good in people and trying to forgive. So many people took advantage of how I was...had to grow out of that naivety
Yeah I was stupid like looking for good in people... Well I am partially crippled or less able bodied from a car accident then worked my ass off for a to walk again, then got a job while in college and kept moving up the ladder until I trained a single mom who showed promise and yeah she effed me over. I lost my job some BS happened and got arrested as I broke a law I didn't even know about and well long story short I'm lucky I lived at home as my parents ended up busting down my door thanks to my dog and my parents found me hanging in my closet. I'm still here so yeah I will never believe anyone is good until it is proven.
Swag doesn’t owe Seth anything, he isn’t a psychiatrist and isn’t a doctor, he might have been his friend in the past but Seth shit all over that by basically admitting he always hated swag and didn’t like him, so no, swag doesn’t owe shit to Seth
I cannot describe how much I hate this for everyone involved. Even Seth. I hate how these great TH-camrs these pillars of the community being treated like dogshit by a megalomaniacal power scaler. He doesn't deserve forgiveness but maybe a bit of pity. He's clearly very delusional and sick. Bad hombre. Swag, homie, I hope you and the boys are good for the most part. It's very bad that this happened.
Someone committing suicide is never anyone else's fault. You alone are responsible for your life. Anyone who throws accusations that assert you will be responsible for their suicide is manipulative and abusive. He's a suicide-baiting manipulator who will do anything for attention and to control those around him. Ignore him. That's the only way he'll learn. I just hope he never actually is suicidal because he's playing the boy who cried wolf. I find it ironic that he is an expert on Naruto, a show about not letting trauma define you or how to inform you as to how you treat others, and he has completely missed the point. I saw through his manipulative facade the second he threatened suicide. Seth was twenty-one when he solicited the nudes if memory serves. However, she was of the age of consent in his country. However, Oregon (no, I am not doxxing him; this was confirmed in the Keemstar stream if you sat through the six hours of it) does have a Romeo and Juliet law which allows a minor and an adult to be in a consenting sexusl relationship if the age gap is less than three years. However, he was five years older, which is a moot point, but it does warrant mentioning. I am not sure where Swag is, but Seth lives in a one-party consent state; I don't know if Swag does as well, but if so, Swag does not have to ask Seth's permission to share recordings. All it requires is a single member of the conversation. I think we should be talking about the NSFW comments he made about a four-year-old that seems to be continuously glossed over. Whenever he is caught in a bad situation, he claims they were a joke, and he did that when called out on that, and I just think it's disconcerting given that most of his "jokes" end up not being just jokes.
I hate saying this, cause it's kinda irrelevant since what he did was shitty regardless, but I believe seth was 19 during the Satire thing, not 21? I thought the same thing too, but apparently it happened in 2017 (not 2019), and Satire was born during 2000 and Seth 1997, so it seems to match I agree with you, pretty much everything you said, just the particular wording of the first sentence. "Someone committing suicide is never anyone else's fault. ". woah. If someone's dad were to beat them with jumper cables everyday from the age of 4, I think it would be fair for them to say that their dad caused their suicide later in life (sorry for even saying that, but if not me some angry twitter user probably would have lol) Obviously, this is not the case for Seth. Yes I agree, threatening to suicide unless someone does "X" is extremely bad. In this case "X" being, begging his former friends to say some shit about him they're not even obligated to say. Whether or not he went to the psych ward, what he did was horrible and petty and needs therapy over it
@@paul_particularlyunhappynut I agree with you on my wording. I should have been more clear. I have dealt with suicide baiters more often than I would admit. The blame game is almost always involved. They detract from actually suicidal people. I lost a childhood friend to suicide, and I think he could have gotten more help had there not been an unfortunate number of people using suicide as a tactic to garner sympathy or manipulate scenarios. My issue is that a climate has been created where people who are actually suicidal are afraid of being seen as attention-seeking.
It's not " whenever " though from the start he said he only wanted to clear the p*do allegations lowkey admitting what he did to Clyde , did gaslight it sometimes but didn't say " i just joked and made him suicidal " or something and overall seemed to admit it , now these p*do comments ain't no joke and shouldn't be accepted as them either , but i think they were intended to be , i haven't seen exactly this but i've seen people say wild sh*t just cuz they can and not mean it , it just doesn't make sense to me why he'd refuse to give her a potential incentive when she mentioned this ' doing something and getting some position ' saying " it wouldn't be to get somewhere higher or anything " then brag about it openly , just screams that classic edgelord behaviour to me so i think he's a horrible person either way but not actually attracted to kids .
I don't understand the issues? He literally said on the keem stream he would get "hardcore therapy" and try not to be as edgy anymore. Even if his online reputation is fucked, he can still live a good quiet life like everyone else. It's not like he's EDP, constantly on the run cause niggas are evicting him. In fact, guilting people into saying he's suicidal might make it WORSE for him, as he might be potentially committed to a psych ward. As oppose to just talking it out with a therapist and showing he's not an immediate danger to himself or others
Isnt Naruto supposed to be a anime about becoming a better person? And isnt Sett one of the biggest Naruto fans? How do you reconcile that for yourself?
1) Police will say that everything is fine as long as they can make contact with the person, and if they did haul him off for a standard 72 hour Suicide Watch at the psych ward on his own accord then I don't believe that they are allowed to disclose that to anyone since his stay wasn't a result of any of the 4 wellness checks. 2) Depending on the police department and jurisdiction, they may be prohibited from even alluding to any actions taken in the instance of a person admitting themselves into a psych ward, since once the person is admitted to the ward the situation becomes a non-life threatening medical emergency and so, aside from immediate family and emergency contacts, the disclosure of any details related to them situation where the person admits themselves to the ward could easily be grounds for harsh punishment. 3) Knowing that, it's not unreasonable to assume that the act of admitting oneself to a psych ward via officer escort, instead of an officer admitting Seth to the ward via a wellness check, could be another manipulation tactic with the goal of scaring everyone involved into giving Seth what he wants, which is a retraction of the pedophile allegations. Just thought I'd put that out there.
Narcissist don't commit suicide, they're probably the least suicidal people out there. They're fond of themselves and think everyone else is or at least should be
"Suicide risk is not rare in patients with narcissism, particularly in the context of severe narcissistic injury, where the patient feels shamed and/or vilified." - Gabbard, G. Narcissism and suicide risk. Ann Gen Psychiatry . 2022 Jan 22;21(1):3.
I am against cancel culture too but damn. He didn't just say something fucked up on twitter, he didn't make a crazy offensive joke. Seth was being a manipulative sociopath, commited an actual crime, never genuinely took responsibility for the shit he did. He was consistently abusive and a terrible person.
Dude, you guys should just cut him off and not give him any attention, no calls, no messages, etc. if he tries suicide, do wellness check and let it be as bad as that suicide thing is but as you see he abuses SERIOUS issues for manipulation.. thats worse than being a trashy person
It's really funny in a way cause I just realized that the way swag debates is mainly off logical assumptions and it comes from the way he engages things that are concrete truths or things that don't add up
as awful as it sound i won't even be suprised if he isn't as suicidal as he says and is using it more as a manipulation tactic because the way he speaks about he's suicidal thoughts doesen't sound truthfull to me
He needs to self evaluate. If he's still arguing these points then he's still in the denial phase. Acceptance eventually comes, but takes longer for some people. I do believe he will bounce back. I really don't want him to fall out like Spoony or some shit. He just needs help. Some people just require a lot of work to change. And that's up to him entirely. Everyone just needs to distance him for awhile & allow him to work on himself. He has the resources to do so. And regardless if he deserves it or not, he does have support. I will reevaluate the situation & my stance based on what happens in the future. If he comes back in a month or a year & has shown the willingness to improve his life & relationships, I will support him. And I don't honestly care what other people think. I may not have done some of the worse things Seth has, but I've definitely done some terrible things in my life & ruined what I thought were unbreakable relationships. People keep expecting this man to instantly change overnight. Distance. Let him think.
This ! What would he improve on if was like " i'm a better person " just the next day , it's clear he won't admit to being a full on pedo even if he is anytime soon , he's done horrible sh*t either way so just let him deal with it himself , this kind of people only get better overtime either with validation or without it , but constantly giving them the negative validation just tends to make them more unstable .
@@paul_particularlyunhappynut Spoony was a huge, respected content creator back in the mid 2000's to early 2010's. Did some stupid shit, ex; (rubbed some people the wrong way with dark, edgy, humor - didn't commit to patreon goals - fell into a deep depression - lost most of his subscribers & friends - never recovered). Do not want that to happen to Seth. If it does, then oh well I guess, but damn.
Honestly I've been watching Seth for years, I always knew he was semi-serious when he would be toxic but I kinda liked it. I think, especially online, we have a tendency to be harsher and not the nicest. However his actions after all this shit proves he just is out for himself and can't be saved my dude. Like he has the power the audience to turn this all around even now, he could make a true change and make amends. But he hasn't, he won't, he is stunted in his mindset and needs some tough love from you swag as much as he is your brother 💯
Coming into all this blind, been on TH-cam since 2007 and I've seen Seth the Programmer vids in my recommendation list from time to time, tried watching a couple of his videos but wasn't my type of content. After hearing about this whole thing from one of MoistCritical's video going over Clyde's video, I noted everything Clyde was talking about in his explanation then went over Seth's response video because I think it's best to wait for both sides of a story before jumping to conclusions on a situation that we have no idea what actually is going on and the only thing we can glean is how both parties respond. With that said my intuition on the situation having dealt with manipulative people in my life, narcissistic personality disorder, ect Seth DEFINITELY exhibits signs of manipulative tactics in his response video. Clyde mentioned how he was told not to trust Seth from people who knew him before they met, and that was some very solid advice from whomever told him that, because Seth didn't even fully respond to what this whole situation was about which was the IchigovsNaruto animation and not giving credit to the animator or why he was lying about how much money the Patreon made. Extremely suspicious how he only focuses on the asking of the nudes, and how all these other people are so bad and try harder is a doxxer, ect. ect. Puts off too many red flags tbh, it's whataboutism. Like look at how bad these guys are, trying to distract from his own shit that he knows there's no defense for. Speaks volumes how he responded, and he blew his one shot at repairing the good will. Of course there will always be people who will still stan for him because that's always how it goes, because people can't look at things objectively due to building their whole personality or identity around a single online personality or type of content, or hobby or whatever and it's very sad to watch.
that whole community is really crazy. Not to say seth didint do any wrong but there are countless people there who've done worse with worse intentions. That whole community is fucked up and its not suprising to me that they would target seth like this because he's super antagonistic towards them. Im not sure about clyde being like a mastermind behind allegations and im sure theres a lot of truth and good intentions in his statements, but i cant say that for some of the other people who've sided with him. Swagkage is pretty cool though.
@@WenDYuhm There is no way to know for sure what the full picture is. No doubt there is probably cherry picked information to frame the situation in favor or against either party for sure, but listening to how Seth was talking about the donors for the animation that really speaks volumes about how the guy talks about others on record so you have to think how does this guy talk about others when he knows there isnt any recording. Unless theres more to that whole interaction that had him for a disclaimer saying it was all in good fun and thanking the donators for the money they gave for the animation which would definitely change my outlook on that section, but if not that is an extremely concerning character trait that definitely begs the question who this guy is really behind the camera. I mean you look at the SkyDoesMinecraft situation you never really know who or what these people are truly when they stop recording. Seth also had his opportunity to respond to this and the response was mostly pointing the finger at someone else highlighing how bad these other parties are, not addressing the crux of the issue which is what happened to the donors money he seems to be very shifty about bringing up, which is what sparked the whole thing to begin with because people kept asking about the Ichigo vs Naruto animation.
@@DethklokMinionSeth is a complete sicko HE was a Twenty year old ADULT With a girlfriend of 17 year old who is basically a CHILD compared to him. I’m literally shakin rn. He dated a MINOR 🤢🤢🤢 SICKO
@@DethklokMinionSeth is a complete sicko HE was a Twenty year old ADULT With a girlfriend of 17 year old who is basically a CHILD compared to him. I’m literally shakin rn. He dated a MINOR 🤢🤢🤢 SICKO
Do all power scalers follow the playboi carti diet of gushers and chips? I honestly don't know what to say. I've been in "psych wards" and jails for mental health problems. He is completely gone of the deep end, he has no thought for others at all, he's completely taking advantage of everyone he's came in contact with. I'm sorry you had to go through that bro. Take a long break from videos and make sure you're mental is back to all good before returning. You deserve the break bro.
It has some chances to be , what people aren't understanding here is that it's not so black and white , he may or may not be actually attracted to kids but he is not going to admit that the whole Keemstar stream made that much clear from start to end , you can't expect that to change overnight of course he's desperate to get validation from someone about that isn't insecurity one of the basic things they established in that whole video? It's good Swag isn't going to talk to him anymore because Seth isn't backing down on that particular stand anytime soon and he made clear in the Keemstar podcast that there's no forgivesness for p*do sh*t , so constantly reminding him that he isn't gonna get that validation may just be that push if he was really not lying about his intentions behind that horrible act , people can make opinions but still should approach him more cautiously if they're going to , purely based on facts not the extreme possibility they think is true .
Someone can be suicidal and manipulative. In fact, a manipulative person who is suicidal probably will try to use their suicidal thoughts to manipulate others. Just because you think someone is using suicide to try and use others doesn't mean they aren't actually suicidal. That doesn't mean you should let them manipulate you, or wrack yourself with negative thoughts and worries over it, but that isn't a reason by itself to dismiss a suicidal claim. Taking it seriously as you did was the correct thing to do.
Keem and Pact never confronted Seth in his life that the girl victim had no part in the prank or joke that Seth kept going on about.right after speaking to her even
Idk how someone can be going to film a serious video like this and thinks... Hold up let me get some gushers for the recording... Bruh snack ahead of time
@@archieakira4237 He absolutely can but it is completely disgusting to listen to him sucking the gummies from his teeth 3 times each sentence. Makes it hard to finish hearing his story is all I'm saying.
50:26 well I've been following NCHammer for a year now and I'd seen his poll and short his poll was who would win in a fight seth the progroomer or Edp And his short I think it was tik tok saying "happy seth the programmer downfall day " enough said that niqqa was milking this situation and as much as I don't like what seth did its completely stupid to think those people that was in keems stream didn't have a personal vendetta against seth especially in a moral stand point can't have a villain putting down another villain all them mfkas are clout snorters clyde already said what he had said keem and the others pushed that shit outta proportion again seth needs to have consequences but that keem shit wasn't it G and the man is still walking free they'd accomplished nothing man's still making some kind of money and can start over some how just a bunch of morons yelling over each other like cmon
if seth genuinely apologized and acknowledged his mistakes we woulda been more forgiving but he wasnt and i was a big fan of him and angered me to him use mental illness because im mentally ill aswell and i never use that as a excuse its genuinely pathetic to see his downfall he may redeem himself but we dk
That image of frieza getting cut down by his own attack might perfectly symbolize Seth's situation.
...Clyde aint the only one who does Fraud-Debunks and Reveals.
Professor Dave, Hbomberguy, Some More News, Jay Exci..
Dude is still here, fake pedo allegations fell off. Y’all are sick for wanting someone’s fall that badly
If Seth actually does get suicidal. His friends won’t be there for him anymore because he broke that trust now. They can’t tell if he’s telling the truth anymore.
It’s just how it is he has to deal with it himself
Boy who cried wolf Type beat
Why would he get suicidal? He makes all that money, he still has a million followers and he’s not going to jail.
@@mr._sharpe he hasn’t grown up yet that’s why he hangs on discord all the time talking to kids lmao
What friends lmao this man is so twisted, he hates his friends man, but still considers them friends because he’s fkn crazy lol
Swag handled this situation pretty good actually, very mature and i feel bad for him to have to have gone through this with seth
🧢 Seth is better than Lag lol meow 😺
@@meowbahhyt Goon detected
If you think THIS is mature then u need to go outside
Swagkage is goated
@@sinoxi2493 what do you mean by that? I've seen enough from enough people to see Seth needs help.
Everything that is against him would be insignificant if he didn't try to manipulate everything. He needs help
Swag got Seth sounding like Season 5 Walter White 😂😂😂
This is the funniest comment I’ve ever read 😭.
Swag: "This is serious business but this food is so goddamn good."
"This off brand cheetos be hittin" seth the programmer in rock lee with byakugan vs shikamaru with sharingan in response to swagkage munchin.
Seth is better than these cloutchasers
@@meowbahhyt cringe
@@meowbahhyt Ew, pedo defender
@@meowbahhyt your supporting a predator.
Seth thinks he’s a real life anime villain 😂
Bro is trying to be johan 💀
what happened between them
And y’all are real life sickos, spreading false pedo allegations just because someone’s mean to you. It’s been a year and nothing…
Hearing that Seth wasn't making attempts to change and better himself and instead was trying to sidestep everything is saddening. No self reflection, no attempt to change. It is sad. What a sad, awful person. Pitiable even, one might say. What a waste. Well. As they say, Karma always comes to bite you. It took too long to bite Seth though.
He was taken to the hospital by police for being suicidal they can’t tell others if ur taken without your consent so we have to go off of what he said and he was indeed in the hospital for being suicidal and none of the allegations are things you can’t come back from in life hopefully nobody wishes for him to really end himself
He wasn’t making attempts to change but end himself
@@anonymous-go1tq Did you, like, actually watch the video and pay attention to what Swag was talking about though? Seth's story about being taken to the hospital by police has been brought into doubt by Swag's conversations with the police and them doing a wellness check. And considering he's a pathological liar I find it hard to believe much of anything Seth says at all. No I don't wish for him to actually end himself, but I highly doubt he even is suicidal at this point because of how manipulative he has proven to be. I don't believe Seth at all.
@@sirminty8495 I watched the video and agree Seth is manipulative and not a good person but what swag doesn’t know is him calling the police doesn’t mean Seth didn’t get taken away by the police they can’t disclose anything to do with that information so he very well could’ve been suicidal to the point the police took him away
@@sirminty8495 it’s like the little boy who cried wolf he definitely was in the hospital due to being suicidal that’s all that matters to me and there is no way of knowing if it was because he admitted himself or the police know swag doesn’t have any information regarding that
swag has always come off as the type of guy who always double checks his work and will make sure his audience understands where he is coming from. Seth has always been the type to go for “got’em” moments. It makes for good debates, but when discussing credibility swag always seemed more genuine because of his natural tendency to double check his own understanding and to make sure others know what he is implying.
Every time i saw a colab between Swag and seth, their chemistry was awesome and they seemed to be really good friends. To know that Motherfucker talked shit behind Swag’s back and literally used him for years is so heartbreaking, because Swag seems to be such a cool dude, and any bit of lore from Naruto I didn’t know, i learned from him, besides him having an Excellent taste in characters (Madara). So I’ve always really liked Swag and always will, and to see him get dragged into all of this is saddening
1:04 goddamn that sprite sip was scrumptious
The opening too whole lil process was smooth😭💯
Honestly gotta love Swag for being such a decent human being
Imagine a man torturing you mentally for years and you still go out of your way to make sure the man is okay. That’s some real dudes right there 🫡👌🏻
He didn't talk shit to swag directly. That's clyde
@@tajup8741 that’s why I said dudes. The whole gang has had shit dealings with Seth and they still care about him. Shows a lot about their characters.
SeththeProgrammer is innocent these people are fake lol Seth team
@@meowbahhyt seththeprogroomer
More so giving idiotic imo does he have to shit in their faces physically for them to get the message lol
My thoughts and prayers are with seth’s victims I hope that each and everyone of them make a full recovery. Know that we hear you and that you are not alone
What victims?
discord victims*
@@sosa8549 the same victims that participate in swatting people and had an inappropriate relationship with an 11 yr old?
Bro it's really not that bad 😆 and as previous comment said his 'victims' are also not that innocent or vulnerable. This is more of friendship dramas that even the most affected get bored off sooner rather than later and see the silliness of it all once they mature a few years...only looks that serious cause it's million subs level public
the only victims of seth were the people who funded the naruto vs ichigo fight, and seths friends. there were no other victims. seth has also said that he has plans/has tried to make it up to the people involved. only thing we can do now is wait to see if he keeps his word
They're better than me I would have called his bluff from the start.
Not going to lie I would to
They’re definitely a better man then me, I woulda just let him burn
@@royjones0824 with that mentality you should delete yourself along with Seth
This is the correct call. If someone seriously says that to you, you immediately cut all ties with that person, no question.
Especially since this is unironically the 192nd time or something lmao
I'm so glad to hear that Clyde showing all this evidence and all these receipts has helped Swag be free of Seth's manipulation. I mean, to hear Swag on top of Clyde say "I heard this stuff, and it's truly psychotic shit." I mean Clyde, Swag, and their sources for a lot of these things that Seth did have known him longer and better than anyone else. At least on a professional level. I just hope that Swag and Clyde and all these other people that Seth has formed rifts between get to reconnect and collab again and rekindle sparks of friendships that will also help their channels and careers grow. Especially Omar. I mean, that man has been plagiarized and abused.
Here is some harsh advice from an old boomer:
When someone tries to gaslight you to that regard like shown here, using suicide as a way to have power over people and wanting to get a foot in the door. Let them go, quite literally. Let them go to hell. It is not you guys responsibility to worry about that human trash. You did your part, you called professionals and all that good stuff. There is nothing else to do besides cutting the cord. Don't talk to this guy ever again. Move on with your lifes. You guys videos are awesome, put that energy in creating more. He is not worth the time.
W post 🙏🙏
-Says the young person who thinks he's old, because he's 25/26.
@@neotoad456Even if that were the case, doesn’t make what they said any less true
Seth is reminding me of Seto Kaiba during the Duelist Kingdom Arc where he threatened Yugi with suicide just to get the W smh 🤦♂️
Lol Imean Kaiba was trying to get his brother back 😂😂😂Seth could be compared to the person in a relationship threatening self harm in order to guilt trip the other into staying with them
I would've blasted him too. The quote Vegeta, "I don't share Kakarot's tendecy for mercy." And he'll die not knowing what the fuck I'm talking about 🤣
Yeah, but Mokuba Kaiba was in danger.
P(Edo) Seth just tried to get people to feel sorry for him.
Yeah, but Mokuba Kaiba was in danger.
P(Edo) Seth just tried to get people to feel sorry for him.
They lied on Seth he is a W
To anyone actually intelligent you’ll notice that Seth was just trying to get swag to admit that Seth makes his own content
if swag wasn't bigger than him and had 1m subs he would have just blocked him like 6
I used to be a toxic person as a teenager but seeing Izanami made me want to do alot of self reflecting and philosophy. Also shout out to uncle Iroh for being an ideal i can aspire to
I don't get upset very often. It's HARD to really piss me the fuck off. But lying about suicide and using that as a weapon really pisses me the fuck off. I ran 8 years in the marine core. I fuckin lost multiple friends to suicide when we all came back from that bloody war. I don't wish death on anybody. I've seen enough of that. But LYING about it and using it against others just turns my stomach. It's the most vile thing you can do to another person besides assaulting them.
I agree it’s so disgusting and nasty
he didnt lie about it. he tried to kill himself and failed
He actually attempted tho
@@jdman8272 I don’t believe so I think he was just using that to try and manipulate them once more.
@@jdman8272 lol no. Seth is the type of dick to easily lie about attempting suicide
I like what that dude in the stream said that Seth isn't sorry about the stuff he did, he's just sorry that he got caught.
Who is going to edit Seth’s video 😂
No one is Seth going to try. Personal think he should leave TH-cam and never come back. As no one wants him here
💀
Or write his scripts.
Kronos
The person who ate shit for him
Every single part of this story sounds like Seth is genuinely disturbed and traumatized, genuinely narcissistic (and as such, he doesn’t even consider himself to be a narcissist) etc etc. every story y’all come out with make it more obvious that he’s not faking it. The way he gushed to someone else about hoping you don’t hate him, then acting unbothered when you reach out? That’s literally TEXTBOOK PSYCHOLOGY, he’s not lying, he seems deeply insecure about being perceived as “needing” swag back in that example, but that doesn’t make him missing swag any less genuine. Mental health isn’t “this OR that”, it’s “this AND that” while those sides fight over your brain
I agree. If you have been a jerk, sometimes you stay a jerk, even when pressured mentally. You actually become more of a jerk, because before, you have the mental capability to tone down your jerk self. Now, that capability is spent on fighting the mental pressure.
If Swag cares about Seth and I were Swag, I would be very very careful about thrashing him.
@@ShadowbannedAccount yea and A LOT of this video is just unfair speculation being stated as fact. Idk man I think swag is hurt that he was lied to, and in turn has exaggerated all of the worst parts of any of this and ignored all the context of anything might make Seth not look as garbage as possible. It’s weird
No the textbook psychopathy is manipulating a stranger to feed the words needed to get in touch. Then he is unable to keep up the act since his goal is in reach and he doesn't actually give a fuck about swag.
@@jakesstatefarm it’s very unlikely if Seth was letting on an act he’d just suddenly be unable to keep it up…
@@MrDSyR I'm not sure if you watched the whole video or not but it's pretty clear from the context the entire purpose of talking to swag was to get him and Clyde to couch for him. In his own words it's all he wanted. Even if you say that's just what he wanted from Clyde, he still continuously attempted to use swag to bridge that gap.
Not gonna lie, I'm gonna go ahead and say it, but swag is TOO nice and patient with people. Clyde too. I don't mean it to come at them, I love both their channels, and hate Seth, but at this point, they know whats gonna happen and they still give fuel to the fire and hang onto a little grain of hope and give this PSYCHOPATH/SOCIOPATH the benefit of the doubt when they know nothings changed and nothing ever will change.
He’s not too nice hes just a good individual in general amd sadly there’s people like seth who will exploit and take advantage of that, I personally don’t think swag should change because of one evil persons action
i agree after the keemstar stream i would 100% not care what happens to him
That’s easyer said then done. You really should put yourself in the shoes of seth’s victims as it is not so easy to get away from a abuser.
@@mechy8700hope he burns in hell
They're both just too good for Seth
0:45 Jokes on you, I came here exclusively for the chewing!
I mean, if yall knew he wasn’t a pedo, and the pedo stuff came from Keem and that old bullshit doc, then why weren’t people open to saying that? The pedophile allegation is the only one that truly mattered at it’s core, everything else is drama
i mean he did also just come off as a genuinely mean and bad person who admitted to not liking the people he called friends too
@@pdfbananano gives a shit about that lol, some people might even like that
30:42 subtitles : Take whatever he says with a GREEN ASSAULT MAN
This man definitely has the munchies. Love swags content I fw it
Seth is basically Bojack Horseman irl 🗿
Bojack has redeemable qualities, and was willing to seek help at the end. He even accepted accountability for his BS.
@@iNC0GNEGRO Yeah but not while he was being a piece of shit it was after
@@iNC0GNEGRO oh my god, your right! 😆
Now I feel so bad for comparing Bojack with someone like STP445 💀
ye nah bojack accepted he was terrible, took accountability and seeked help. seth is just fucked in the head lmaooo😭😭😭
@@IchigoTheQuincy Facts but bojack also lacked the self awareness to know how bad he was. Seth was flexing it like a Bugatti.
Not trying to make this about me, but I dealt with a similar situation and I just wanted to say that toxic friends are not your friends. If they’re not going to stick their necks out for you then you don’t need them in your life.
I had a friend who I’ve known for almost all my life, elementary school - high school and a bit through college type beat. He always acted in a way where people would say they didn’t like him, but he had our friend circle and he was fine more or less. Around college time we started seeing more of the fucked up shit he would say or do. The easiest way to describe was, we all grew up, but he never did. He still acted like a kid with 0 responsibilities or 0 consequences for his actions. Anyway, a lot of arguments and shit later, we decided to break off from him quietly and he more or less got the idea that we drifting apart.
A year later his dad died. We all felt really bad because his dad was a cool dude and they were close. We were his only friends and as a group we said we need to be there for him; maybe after seriously losing someone close to him, he’d value the people he has left and change. Nope, same person, arguably worse. Every time there was some conflict or disagreement, he would bring up how his dad passed recently. One time he mentioned how he’d use the money his dad left him to buy collectibles and Star Wars replicas that his dad wouldn’t approve of.
It was so disgusting and shitty that we all decided to officially break it off for good. In hindsight we probably should’ve done it face to face, but we were so sick of him we did it over discord, full stop, completely blocked. Dude starts calling people’s families saying how he wants to talk to us or he’ll unalive himself like how Seth was doing.
It’s wild how it’s been a few years since then but I’m better off for it. I’m not looking for sympathy but for other people to know that you don’t need that shit in your life. If you have someone like my friend or Seth who only sees you as a tool, or refuses to change for the better, cut them off.
This is a good post, sometimes talking it out and working through someone's problems is not a solution but rather cutting them off is the only way to heal and progress.
Toxic friends are fucked up bruh.
W post brother🙏
Honestly, the entire suicidal stuff just sounds like he was being super manipulative trying to get people to pity him or feel bad for him to start hanging out with him again using peoples concerns against them.
When it comes to severe situations, it’s only fear that causes someone to lie and remain in denial
Don't worry. Consensus is usually in regards to legal prosecution. Also, if he asked to go on a call. There's a good chance that it warrants consent. Don't worry about it Swag.
I think using suicide as a "get out of jail" card with friends family and the public in general, is about the dirtiest thing a person can fucking do. It pisses me off learning what kind of person Seth is. I never cared for Seth to begin with but now I hate him and never want to see him again on TH-cam. Obviously I would never wish suicide on someone. I just don't want him to have a platform anymore he needs to go away
I agree people like Seth should never be allowed to have a TH-cam channel at all
Watch seths video
Seth explains he wasn't just throwing it around he was actually tryna kill himself dude was it the hospital becsuse of it he releasing his personal records
@@toddqueenan3477 nah I'm good
@@toddqueenan3477your boy is a groomer lol
Hollup lemme finish these gushers.
Love you swagkage, lmao.
Why would you think Clyde was being paranoid about Seth recording him when Seth literally has been doing that the whole time. To everybody.
I'm genuinely surprised with Swag. Usually larger TH-camrs like Swag don't comment or take any position. I fully anticipated Swag to say "these aren't convictions only allegations" and "he was good to me so who cares"
Chat some haters, let swag eat LMAO that shit was a funny lil break between the drama
Talking about seth is like making videos and polls on itachi and minato over and over lol
Minato slams
@@AliSabriAnimal LOL
legally they wouldn't tell you there are laws called hipaa laws that are in place for that specific reason, he could technically pursue legal action against them if they told you without his informed consent
Not only that but he’s giving Seth crap for saying he was in there for 4 days when it was 3 like bro he was in the hospital for being suicidal why u hanging on that
@@anonymous-go1tq i don't think thats what he was doing i just wanted to point out that fact cause he said "wouldn't they have said something" if he was forced to go he would have to go for a minimum of 72 hours (3 days). my statement is in no way to help, add credibility or defend seth's words, or actions. just clear up any misconceptions on how the mental health and some legal processes that go along with it are handled
@@kyuubixkurama9 I didn’t think you were but what I am saying is everyone involved is being manipulative swag is pretty much pleading ignorance to these facts which I do not buy at all
24:00 I don't care about the seth allegations or him being immoral but this... Is unforgivable
Lol. You don't care that Seth may potentially be a predator but care that said potential predator threatened to kill himself instead.
You remember me?
Indeed
Destruction1c0
Swag your a good guy and a master of knowledge when it comes to anime debate.
Yeah I’ve always thought it was weird when Seth would jokingly be jealous of swag and his subs when he wasn’t even in the video. Bro really was just using you for subs
Swagkage is the best! Seems like he did learn certain concepts from Naruto. That's just how I was when in highschool. Trying to see the good in people and trying to forgive.
So many people took advantage of how I was...had to grow out of that naivety
Yeah I was stupid like looking for good in people... Well I am partially crippled or less able bodied from a car accident then worked my ass off for a to walk again, then got a job while in college and kept moving up the ladder until I trained a single mom who showed promise and yeah she effed me over. I lost my job some BS happened and got arrested as I broke a law I didn't even know about and well long story short I'm lucky I lived at home as my parents ended up busting down my door thanks to my dog and my parents found me hanging in my closet. I'm still here so yeah I will never believe anyone is good until it is proven.
Swag doesn’t owe Seth anything, he isn’t a psychiatrist and isn’t a doctor, he might have been his friend in the past but Seth shit all over that by basically admitting he always hated swag and didn’t like him, so no, swag doesn’t owe shit to Seth
Do these guys just record all their private discord calls and convos lmao
seth said he was suicidal on the keem stream
and even keem saw through the bs
He's not lying, sixth, cldye, swag, and omar know he's not lying
Who cares
@@ropclop okay..
@@heavenlypath1065 bro stfu if he’s suicidal that’s a big fucking deal
@@jdman8272 Cry about it
An involuntary hold in a psychward is usually standard to keep them for 3 days.
I cannot describe how much I hate this for everyone involved. Even Seth. I hate how these great TH-camrs these pillars of the community being treated like dogshit by a megalomaniacal power scaler. He doesn't deserve forgiveness but maybe a bit of pity. He's clearly very delusional and sick. Bad hombre.
Swag, homie, I hope you and the boys are good for the most part. It's very bad that this happened.
seth went suicide boy$ on us
Programmer dude is now debating for his life Y000000 he just outscaled fictional battles tier
Man damn you didn't have to delete all those videos
Minato vs. Itachi Sasuke vs jiraiya and lot others were my favorite
i was the 1000th like, and i'm damn proud of it. Swag was very mature here, and handled it better than any netflix romcom ever could
"they both given me permission to post these clips and even encourages it"
Wonder how long that will last
yo so is it six only or will swag be included to the channel?
Probably but idt swag streams much
Someone committing suicide is never anyone else's fault. You alone are responsible for your life. Anyone who throws accusations that assert you will be responsible for their suicide is manipulative and abusive. He's a suicide-baiting manipulator who will do anything for attention and to control those around him. Ignore him. That's the only way he'll learn. I just hope he never actually is suicidal because he's playing the boy who cried wolf. I find it ironic that he is an expert on Naruto, a show about not letting trauma define you or how to inform you as to how you treat others, and he has completely missed the point. I saw through his manipulative facade the second he threatened suicide. Seth was twenty-one when he solicited the nudes if memory serves. However, she was of the age of consent in his country. However, Oregon (no, I am not doxxing him; this was confirmed in the Keemstar stream if you sat through the six hours of it) does have a Romeo and Juliet law which allows a minor and an adult to be in a consenting sexusl relationship if the age gap is less than three years. However, he was five years older, which is a moot point, but it does warrant mentioning. I am not sure where Swag is, but Seth lives in a one-party consent state; I don't know if Swag does as well, but if so, Swag does not have to ask Seth's permission to share recordings. All it requires is a single member of the conversation. I think we should be talking about the NSFW comments he made about a four-year-old that seems to be continuously glossed over. Whenever he is caught in a bad situation, he claims they were a joke, and he did that when called out on that, and I just think it's disconcerting given that most of his "jokes" end up not being just jokes.
I hate saying this, cause it's kinda irrelevant since what he did was shitty regardless, but I believe seth was 19 during the Satire thing, not 21? I thought the same thing too, but apparently it happened in 2017 (not 2019), and Satire was born during 2000 and Seth 1997, so it seems to match
I agree with you, pretty much everything you said, just the particular wording of the first sentence. "Someone committing suicide is never anyone else's fault. ". woah. If someone's dad were to beat them with jumper cables everyday from the age of 4, I think it would be fair for them to say that their dad caused their suicide later in life
(sorry for even saying that, but if not me some angry twitter user probably would have lol)
Obviously, this is not the case for Seth. Yes I agree, threatening to suicide unless someone does "X" is extremely bad. In this case "X" being, begging his former friends to say some shit about him they're not even obligated to say. Whether or not he went to the psych ward, what he did was horrible and petty and needs therapy over it
@@paul_particularlyunhappynut I agree with you on my wording. I should have been more clear. I have dealt with suicide baiters more often than I would admit. The blame game is almost always involved. They detract from actually suicidal people. I lost a childhood friend to suicide, and I think he could have gotten more help had there not been an unfortunate number of people using suicide as a tactic to garner sympathy or manipulate scenarios. My issue is that a climate has been created where people who are actually suicidal are afraid of being seen as attention-seeking.
It's not " whenever " though from the start he said he only wanted to clear the p*do allegations lowkey admitting what he did to Clyde , did gaslight it sometimes but didn't say " i just joked and made him suicidal " or something and overall seemed to admit it , now these p*do comments ain't no joke and shouldn't be accepted as them either , but i think they were intended to be , i haven't seen exactly this but i've seen people say wild sh*t just cuz they can and not mean it , it just doesn't make sense to me why he'd refuse to give her a potential incentive when she mentioned this ' doing something and getting some position ' saying " it wouldn't be to get somewhere higher or anything " then brag about it openly , just screams that classic edgelord behaviour to me so i think he's a horrible person either way but not actually attracted to kids .
Swag should’ve made the background of this video the manga panel for Light revealing himself as Kira
I don't want Pops to kill emself, but who's gonna be there for him? I'm sorry, but after what he was doing, I wanna feel empathy but I can't.
You feel empathy you just choose to ignore because of Seth’s actions or are you really that heartless?
I don't understand the issues? He literally said on the keem stream he would get "hardcore therapy" and try not to be as edgy anymore. Even if his online reputation is fucked, he can still live a good quiet life like everyone else. It's not like he's EDP, constantly on the run cause niggas are evicting him. In fact, guilting people into saying he's suicidal might make it WORSE for him, as he might be potentially committed to a psych ward. As oppose to just talking it out with a therapist and showing he's not an immediate danger to himself or others
Lmao, are you that mentally weak
Isnt Naruto supposed to be a anime about becoming a better person? And isnt Sett one of the biggest Naruto fans? How do you reconcile that for yourself?
Swag is a good person for still worrying about Seth even tho the situation
29:09 “not true by the way” 😭😭😭😂😂😂
1) Police will say that everything is fine as long as they can make contact with the person, and if they did haul him off for a standard 72 hour Suicide Watch at the psych ward on his own accord then I don't believe that they are allowed to disclose that to anyone since his stay wasn't a result of any of the 4 wellness checks.
2) Depending on the police department and jurisdiction, they may be prohibited from even alluding to any actions taken in the instance of a person admitting themselves into a psych ward, since once the person is admitted to the ward the situation becomes a non-life threatening medical emergency and so, aside from immediate family and emergency contacts, the disclosure of any details related to them situation where the person admits themselves to the ward could easily be grounds for harsh punishment.
3) Knowing that, it's not unreasonable to assume that the act of admitting oneself to a psych ward via officer escort, instead of an officer admitting Seth to the ward via a wellness check, could be another manipulation tactic with the goal of scaring everyone involved into giving Seth what he wants, which is a retraction of the pedophile allegations.
Just thought I'd put that out there.
Swag needs to do a mukbang whilst scaling some anime.
SOUR GUSHERS?! those exist?!
1:02:23 YO! THE ROGER-SWAG IS GETTING BACK TOGETHER! WHOOO! Best news out of this whole video
Mmm that sip of sprite. I felt the static.
Who else watched this live?
I was only there for about 5 minutes tho
Lol i screenrecorded, just to find out couple of minutes later that was totally obsolete
I saw the whole thing live 💪😐
No
Me
Y'all really out here accusing this man of lieing about going to the hospital?
This situation is so disappointing and frustrating
Hey maybe he should of helped Clyde when Clyde needed him. He exploited everybody in the situation.
Clyde is a 🐍 How about he help himself
Clyde the GOAT. Seth is scummy.
@@meowbahhyt "meowbahhyoutube" 💀opinion safely discarded 🗑
Narcissist don't commit suicide, they're probably the least suicidal people out there. They're fond of themselves and think everyone else is or at least should be
"Suicide risk is not rare in patients with narcissism, particularly in the context of severe narcissistic injury, where the patient feels shamed and/or vilified." - Gabbard, G. Narcissism and suicide risk. Ann Gen Psychiatry . 2022 Jan 22;21(1):3.
I am against cancel culture too but damn. He didn't just say something fucked up on twitter, he didn't make a crazy offensive joke. Seth was being a manipulative sociopath, commited an actual crime, never genuinely took responsibility for the shit he did. He was consistently abusive and a terrible person.
This isn't cancel drama, Seth has done heinous, illegal shit and is still trying to control and destroy people. He needs to be at minimum locked up.
Cancel culture is literally Juist consequences on the Internet yall too damn blinded by them labels
Death penalty. Sexual predators do not change.
@@sincexciv6598 💯💯💯
You know the thing is, he sounds so delusional he might be both plotting and genuinely feeling that way. He’s a loose cannon at this point.
It’s like y’all haven’t seen Clyde’s video that nigga done did this whole ima kms shit
@@tastedivinefury2198 nah I watched it, I genuinely think Seth is fucking crazy and is delusional
Seth’s case definitely sounds like psychosis. I hope he gets some help.
In prison.
Will he get help scrubbing his back or getting back up?
Dude, you guys should just cut him off and not give him any attention, no calls, no messages, etc. if he tries suicide, do wellness check and let it be as bad as that suicide thing is but as you see he abuses SERIOUS issues for manipulation.. thats worse than being a trashy person
Bro everywhere I turn I see drama
It's really funny in a way cause I just realized that the way swag debates is mainly off logical assumptions and it comes from the way he engages things that are concrete truths or things that don't add up
as awful as it sound i won't even be suprised if he isn't as suicidal as he says and is using it more as a manipulation tactic
because the way he speaks about he's suicidal thoughts doesen't sound truthfull to me
He needs to self evaluate. If he's still arguing these points then he's still in the denial phase. Acceptance eventually comes, but takes longer for some people. I do believe he will bounce back. I really don't want him to fall out like Spoony or some shit. He just needs help. Some people just require a lot of work to change. And that's up to him entirely. Everyone just needs to distance him for awhile & allow him to work on himself. He has the resources to do so. And regardless if he deserves it or not, he does have support. I will reevaluate the situation & my stance based on what happens in the future. If he comes back in a month or a year & has shown the willingness to improve his life & relationships, I will support him. And I don't honestly care what other people think.
I may not have done some of the worse things Seth has, but I've definitely done some terrible things in my life & ruined what I thought were unbreakable relationships. People keep expecting this man to instantly change overnight. Distance. Let him think.
Spoony?
This ! What would he improve on if was like " i'm a better person " just the next day , it's clear he won't admit to being a full on pedo even if he is anytime soon , he's done horrible sh*t either way so just let him deal with it himself , this kind of people only get better overtime either with validation or without it , but constantly giving them the negative validation just tends to make them more unstable .
@@paul_particularlyunhappynut Spoony was a huge, respected content creator back in the mid 2000's to early 2010's. Did some stupid shit, ex; (rubbed some people the wrong way with dark, edgy, humor - didn't commit to patreon goals - fell into a deep depression - lost most of his subscribers & friends - never recovered). Do not want that to happen to Seth. If it does, then oh well I guess, but damn.
How could someone hate swag he seems a like a pretty straight forward good dude
Lol @ "*Crinkle, crunkle*"
It's so disappointing this whole situation
Minis the swagkage one piece content that's a big step for the series(Scalers that don't wank Luffy)
Honestly I've been watching Seth for years, I always knew he was semi-serious when he would be toxic but I kinda liked it. I think, especially online, we have a tendency to be harsher and not the nicest. However his actions after all this shit proves he just is out for himself and can't be saved my dude. Like he has the power the audience to turn this all around even now, he could make a true change and make amends. But he hasn't, he won't, he is stunted in his mindset and needs some tough love from you swag as much as he is your brother 💯
Seems like Seth abandon his comrades. Maybe he should rewatch Naruto
Coming into all this blind, been on TH-cam since 2007 and I've seen Seth the Programmer vids in my recommendation list from time to time, tried watching a couple of his videos but wasn't my type of content. After hearing about this whole thing from one of MoistCritical's video going over Clyde's video, I noted everything Clyde was talking about in his explanation then went over Seth's response video because I think it's best to wait for both sides of a story before jumping to conclusions on a situation that we have no idea what actually is going on and the only thing we can glean is how both parties respond.
With that said my intuition on the situation having dealt with manipulative people in my life, narcissistic personality disorder, ect Seth DEFINITELY exhibits signs of manipulative tactics in his response video.
Clyde mentioned how he was told not to trust Seth from people who knew him before they met, and that was some very solid advice from whomever told him that, because Seth didn't even fully respond to what this whole situation was about which was the IchigovsNaruto animation and not giving credit to the animator or why he was lying about how much money the Patreon made. Extremely suspicious how he only focuses on the asking of the nudes, and how all these other people are so bad and try harder is a doxxer, ect. ect. Puts off too many red flags tbh, it's whataboutism. Like look at how bad these guys are, trying to distract from his own shit that he knows there's no defense for. Speaks volumes how he responded, and he blew his one shot at repairing the good will. Of course there will always be people who will still stan for him because that's always how it goes, because people can't look at things objectively due to building their whole personality or identity around a single online personality or type of content, or hobby or whatever and it's very sad to watch.
that whole community is really crazy. Not to say seth didint do any wrong but there are countless people there who've done worse with worse intentions. That whole community is fucked up and its not suprising to me that they would target seth like this because he's super antagonistic towards them. Im not sure about clyde being like a mastermind behind allegations and im sure theres a lot of truth and good intentions in his statements, but i cant say that for some of the other people who've sided with him. Swagkage is pretty cool though.
@@WenDYuhm There is no way to know for sure what the full picture is. No doubt there is probably cherry picked information to frame the situation in favor or against either party for sure, but listening to how Seth was talking about the donors for the animation that really speaks volumes about how the guy talks about others on record so you have to think how does this guy talk about others when he knows there isnt any recording. Unless theres more to that whole interaction that had him for a disclaimer saying it was all in good fun and thanking the donators for the money they gave for the animation which would definitely change my outlook on that section, but if not that is an extremely concerning character trait that definitely begs the question who this guy is really behind the camera.
I mean you look at the SkyDoesMinecraft situation you never really know who or what these people are truly when they stop recording.
Seth also had his opportunity to respond to this and the response was mostly pointing the finger at someone else highlighing how bad these other parties are, not addressing the crux of the issue which is what happened to the donors money he seems to be very shifty about bringing up, which is what sparked the whole thing to begin with because people kept asking about the Ichigo vs Naruto animation.
@@DethklokMinionSeth is a complete sicko HE was a Twenty year old ADULT With a girlfriend of 17 year old who is basically a CHILD compared to him. I’m literally shakin rn. He dated a MINOR 🤢🤢🤢
SICKO
@@DethklokMinionSeth is a complete sicko HE was a Twenty year old ADULT With a girlfriend of 17 year old who is basically a CHILD compared to him. I’m literally shakin rn. He dated a MINOR 🤢🤢🤢
SICKO
Sry u guys n the community went through all this
Do all power scalers follow the playboi carti diet of gushers and chips?
I honestly don't know what to say. I've been in "psych wards" and jails for mental health problems. He is completely gone of the deep end, he has no thought for others at all, he's completely taking advantage of everyone he's came in contact with.
I'm sorry you had to go through that bro. Take a long break from videos and make sure you're mental is back to all good before returning. You deserve the break bro.
Hope it doesn’t become a “Boy who cried wolf” situation
It has some chances to be , what people aren't understanding here is that it's not so black and white , he may or may not be actually attracted to kids but he is not going to admit that the whole Keemstar stream made that much clear from start to end , you can't expect that to change overnight of course he's desperate to get validation from someone about that isn't insecurity one of the basic things they established in that whole video? It's good Swag isn't going to talk to him anymore because Seth isn't backing down on that particular stand anytime soon and he made clear in the Keemstar podcast that there's no forgivesness for p*do sh*t , so constantly reminding him that he isn't gonna get that validation may just be that push if he was really not lying about his intentions behind that horrible act , people can make opinions but still should approach him more cautiously if they're going to , purely based on facts not the extreme possibility they think is true .
Someone can be suicidal and manipulative. In fact, a manipulative person who is suicidal probably will try to use their suicidal thoughts to manipulate others. Just because you think someone is using suicide to try and use others doesn't mean they aren't actually suicidal. That doesn't mean you should let them manipulate you, or wrack yourself with negative thoughts and worries over it, but that isn't a reason by itself to dismiss a suicidal claim. Taking it seriously as you did was the correct thing to do.
Keem and Pact never confronted Seth in his life that the girl victim had no part in the prank or joke that Seth kept going on about.right after speaking to her even
Falling right into his hands.
I actually don’t mind him eating while doing this vid… let the man eat
Idk how someone can be going to film a serious video like this and thinks... Hold up let me get some gushers for the recording... Bruh snack ahead of time
Swag never grew up past middle school
Get back to work
Seth is innocent Swag did way worse meow 😺
Not everyone is like you dude no shit if the man wants to eat gushers he can he's a grown ass man you're focused on irrelevant stuff
@@archieakira4237 He absolutely can but it is completely disgusting to listen to him sucking the gummies from his teeth 3 times each sentence. Makes it hard to finish hearing his story is all I'm saying.
Some people simply can't change they never understand the error of there ways
50:26 well I've been following NCHammer for a year now and I'd seen his poll and short his poll was who would win in a fight seth the progroomer or Edp
And his short I think it was tik tok saying "happy seth the programmer downfall day " enough said that niqqa was milking this situation and as much as I don't like what seth did its completely stupid to think those people that was in keems stream didn't have a personal vendetta against seth especially in a moral stand point can't have a villain putting down another villain all them mfkas are clout snorters clyde already said what he had said keem and the others pushed that shit outta proportion again seth needs to have consequences but that keem shit wasn't it G and the man is still walking free they'd accomplished nothing man's still making some kind of money and can start over some how just a bunch of morons yelling over each other like cmon
NCH is so wack. Dude's acting like Seth was a final boss or something. Nobody cares about his shit.
Seth scummy though.
Use proper grammar and english please, holy.
Seth started it by attacking Nchammer out of nowhere
He new exactly what he was doing and he doesn’t take responsibility for his actions what a pos!!
if seth genuinely apologized and acknowledged his mistakes we woulda been more forgiving but he wasnt and i was a big fan of him and angered me to him use mental illness because im mentally ill aswell and i never use that as a excuse its genuinely pathetic to see his downfall he may redeem himself but we dk
I hate to break it to everyone but he ain’t going anywhere he’s literally got a cult following
Gotta agree with you. There is a reason he still has so many followers
We will see when he drops the video
Sounds like Seth is just seeking attention. People that commit suicide don't advertise it
How do yk dat?