You know the only reason it got nerfed from bo1 is cause no skilled corner campers keeped getting killed by it and were bitching about it non-stop. " i cant camp in the corner with my suppressed famas cause of the crossbow nerf it so i can camp." ~ no skilled corner campers
I've not watched your In Depths since back when I was playing MW3 and today I decided to look at some of your videos. Crazy thing is...they've gotten even more in depth now! Keep it up, bro ^_^
I think it's something to do with the character model, similar to how long guns stick through walls. If you stick a guy with a bolt, and the guy runs into a wall so the bolt is inside the wall, they survive. You could do this with semtex sticks in some previous games.
this weapon had such potential normal (sharp bolts): similar to snipers but with an arc also, silenced poisoned: deals a little damage but also over time halugenic: similar to a concussion/flashbang tracker: makes hit enemy be on the map constantly, deals virtually no damage
You can kind of quickscope with the crossbow in short range engagements with an acog sight, if you're accurate quickscoping with snipers. The bolt does have a small travel time, but I find that I can usually basically go for a quickscope then sprint away while they explode type of tactic if I find myself in close engagements.
I equip 2 Combat Axes with my Crossbow class for close quarter battles. Sometimes if I stick someone up close and they're firing at me, I'll toss an axe just to secure the quick kill. It also helps if I run into multiple opponents or I get caught were I need to reload. It really helps when running the crossbow as a primary.
The crossbow isn't a silenced weapon, so with or without the explosion, firing makes you show up as a blip on the map. Plus there are plenty of times where I've fired the crossbow and people hear the explosion but don't assume that it's aimed at them. People toss grenades and C4's around so often that rarely do I ever get someone detecting me merely due to having an explosive tip. Plus, in Hard Core, the explosion is an instant-kill without Flak. The explosive tip is much more valuable.
Hey there, I found out that there IS a way how to survive a direct impact of the crossbow. When equipped with an assault shield and flak jacket you can avoid death I believe by switching to your secondary when your assault shield has been hit with the crossbow. Not 100% sure though how the mechanic exactly works, but it is possible. And keep up the good vids, I really enjoy them!
There is one way to survive a direct impact, which can also be done if you are stuck with semtex. You need a trophy system, and fast hands perk. When you are stuck, immediately put down the trophy system. It will blast it off of you.
It does, and I'm surprised he didn't discuss this aspect at all. The arrows have dropoff over distance unlike the bullets in the game. I was trying to snipe someone across the map on Drone and couldn't even shoot that far.
Quick tip, I have had a lot of success defeating assault shields with the crossbow. One bolt into the shield kills them on explosion. I didn't test it, its just based on a dozen or so occurences.
Was looking forward to more commentary on the Tri-Bolt, since that's the only thing people use the crossbow for once they prestige it. The range, spread, etc. become completely different, so was hoping for more analysis on this.
Honestly, tri-bolt is the best attachment in this game. It might not be viable in a general situation, but as a last ditch effort, or just dicking around, it is the most fun weapon to use. You normally don't expect 3 bolts in one area, and when it explodes, anyone in the radius is bound to die. If you're good at knifing (which is very unlikely for this game, but some can do it), you can make a class out of tri-bolt and stealth knifing. It's pretty fun, I'd suggest trying to get it.
Play in Hardcore game modes. Without the flak jacket perk, all you need to do is land a shot near enough to them, and the explosion is guaranteed to kill. Also, in hard-core, the bolt itself will kill in one hit before it even gets to explode, which, if you're using the Scavenger perk, will make them drop a pack for you to get more arrows out of. So, yeah, Crossbow is for hardcore modes.
Can some people please like this for Drift0r to notice? If you're running Flak Jacket, in core, and are undamaged and someone sticks your assault shield with the crossbow, you can survive. This is due to the impact damage not hitting you, but it still counts as being stuck.
It seems this is the best secondary for counter-sniping. Makes sense, I used it in BO1 for spamming sniper spots. Its a fantastic secondary if your primary is short ranged, like a shotgun or rapid-fire smg.
i'm not an expert, but i do use the crossbow for fun. and i found that at short - medium range you most likely will not feel a drop on the bolt trajectory, just try to aim in the upper chest area. but if you are firing long-range targets, you definately will notice the bolt fall. in those cases, aim above the target a little bit. can be very frustrating to get your targets right, but once you get a feel for it, it gets very fun.
I found that the crossbow is pretty useful for blowing up vehicles from across the map that enemies have clustered around. It's easy to get doubles or even triples this way.
One thing that I found is if you shoot the bolt over a trophey sytem and the person that tossed it down is near by it ussually kills them its fun to hear to reactions
That's weird you say that a stick will always kill because, if you get on split screen, fire a bolt into someone with flak jacket they can survive, I've had that happen numerous times. I'm always moving to the side when I survive, but that really is something to look into.
I feel like not having the explosive tip would be better because, like you said no large explosion, but more importantly because it would do that 10 damage to someone that scares them off. It's like the combat ax except if you miss then it will scare them off or they might kill you
Are you sure about that? He mention the tri-bolt attachments a few times in the episode. 8:03 He recommended the dual band or the variable zoom for the crossbow. 7:44
3:40 Force the crossbow bolt through a wall (like walk next to a wall so part of your body sticks into it) and you'll live. One of my friends managed to pull this off in sticks and stones next to one of the tanks on Standoff. Him, another guy who saw it happen, and I were all "WTF? HOW???"
No what we need is two weapons slots (like now) Either of them can have a primary or secondary but only one primary is allowed unless using overkill, this means you can have 2 secondaries
I think if the explosive blast radius is so small it should be a stealth weapon or if they keep it a non-stealth weapon it should do more damage to people inside of the blast radius or they should expand the blast radius
I said that when the game came out. I also feel that you should be able to have two attachments by default when only using a secondary (losing the second attachment when equipping a Primary). I hate needing to use Secondary Gunfighter on my Pistol when I have no intent of carrying a primary with it.
for some reason when u kill someone with the tri-bolt crossbow, or normal it doesnt give a scavenger pack... that sucks cause I can't seem to get the bloodthirsty camo challenge
I actually had this happen to me to, from what I can figure you don't hit the car directly with the bolt, you have to shoot the bolt next to the car and it will count.
In my experience if you are stuck with a bolt, you my live if you have a trophy system up. This may or may not be true, but has worked a couple of times.
Driftor I took your advice on your other video about using a handgun and then going back to an smg and you were right I started doing amazing! I went 50-5!
@Ayrton G. When you get hit via contact or stick with grenades to will die, you are not immune to explosions all the time if so it would be pointless to not use the perk. Just trying to help
I got an across the map kill on Carrier in sticks and stones, and just before the bolt explodes, the game ends... It would have been the most epic killcam ever.
It seems that when the bolt is in a person the explosion is lessened, like if u stick a guy, a guy beside him won't die from the explosion no matter how close he is.
The crossbow is the most hilarious weapon. It makes for great killcams and is like a last laugh. However it can be survived if it hits an assault shield (wether you have the flak jacket perk or not)
I think that the crossbow should start out as stealth but there should be an explosive bolt attachment which removes the stealth, but the explosion should be quite big...
I have survived a direct impact twice. it is a glitch- if you kill the person who hit you immeadiately after they stick you, and they instantly respawn you can survive.
Actually it makes sense when you think of what it does. It launches EXPLOSIVE arrows, would you like someone running around with a cross bow and firing off multiple explosive one-hit-kill rounds? Especially on HC, though you need a UAV for a minimap in HC
The thing that makes me think it would become too powerful if it gets buffed is the Tri-Bolt attachment. You would probably be able to kill Flak Jacket users without stucking them.
Hey man completely off topic (sort off). Question, after you obtain 'Prestige Master' do you still receive the 'Match Bonus XP' that appears after the game? I have come to believe you don't which is complete BS. Unless it doesn't show up under the 'career' leaderboards because that is where I am looking.
The only way to survive a stick from the crossbow is to run into a room with a freindly trophy system. However, the time it takes to do it might take to long.
I thought the crossbow was great in BO, always had it equipped as a secondary. You had 2 arrows that were more lethal than BO 2. Using the tri-bolt gives you about the same effect. I always have it equipped in BO 2. There is not many things that make me laugh while playing BO 2, but sticking someone with a crossbow from way downtown is always hilarious!! Great video.
Seeing as dual wield is too badass of an attachment for me to remove from my crossbow, I'll simply have to pile more impossible attachments on top of it. I love my dual wielded sawed-off crossbows
Do the variable zoom and dual band scope affect the visual amount, if that makes sense, you have to compensate for the drop? It would make sense you would have to aim higher on your screen, due to the higher level of zoom, however, the clips in the video seem to contradict this.
once you get try bolt. Its amazing. I have mine in gold from using it so much to the point were I almost always get a guaranteed kill if I aim even a little off target (crosshairs not on the body) because of the 3 bolts.
One time I got stuck in the beginning of a game. It didn't explode. I just ran around with an annoying beep and bright light following me. When I died, it stayed on the ground where a died for a while and eventually disappeared. Survived the crossbow!!
If you are having trouble to get the bloodthirsty medals create a class with the knife and the crossbow and scavenger. You need to get 5 kills with the crossbow in the same life, but not consecutive so knife and get the scavenger packs :)
i know, like normal bolts would be a one-shot one kill think, with posibility of penetrating and getting a coladeral. explosive should be an attachment with more damage than what it has right now
This is a good analysis video of the crossbow so I tried it last night on both core and hardcore modes and the crossbow is bad! It is so slow and you only have 6 bolts of ammo. It was worth a try anyway. I wish Treyarch would buff this weapon by increasing the ammo count.
While I agree that a nonexplosive X-bow would be awesome, for some reason 1 hit kill bolts sounds like it'd be too good, I know that the current x-bow will kill in one hit because of the explosion, so I can't explain why it sounds too good. Maybe have it work like the DSR, below the waist=2 hits, anything above=instant kill.
You know the only reason it got nerfed from bo1 is cause no skilled corner campers keeped getting killed by it and were bitching about it non-stop.
" i cant camp in the corner with my suppressed famas cause of the crossbow nerf it so i can camp." ~ no skilled corner campers
true campers suck
It has abilities you can use similar to WC3
It would be nice if there was a silenced crossbow without explosive bolts, like the campain bow of bo1
Then play bf4 :D^^
Yet Another Noob WTF?!
Colonel Arthur J In BF4 is a Bow. Not a crossbow but a silenced bow.
Yet Another Noob you mean in a dlc right?
+Yet Another Noob battlefield3 has the crossbow
I've not watched your In Depths since back when I was playing MW3 and today I decided to look at some of your videos. Crazy thing is...they've gotten even more in depth now! Keep it up, bro ^_^
2:16 speak of the Devil and he will appear. LOL
I think it's something to do with the character model, similar to how long guns stick through walls. If you stick a guy with a bolt, and the guy runs into a wall so the bolt is inside the wall, they survive. You could do this with semtex sticks in some previous games.
this weapon had such potential
normal (sharp bolts): similar to snipers but with an arc also, silenced
poisoned: deals a little damage but also over time
halugenic: similar to a concussion/flashbang
tracker: makes hit enemy be on the map constantly, deals virtually no damage
The Ballistic Knife episode is going better than expected. Going to have some beast clips and longshots.
Only way if you can survive a crossbow stick is by jumping up and knife right before it explodes.
A direct crossbow bolt hit is NOT always a guaranteed kill, i got stuck and few other friends of mine had been stuck and survived the explosion
You can kind of quickscope with the crossbow in short range engagements with an acog sight, if you're accurate quickscoping with snipers. The bolt does have a small travel time, but I find that I can usually basically go for a quickscope then sprint away while they explode type of tactic if I find myself in close engagements.
cod logic: firing a crossbow is as loud as a .50bmg rifle.
We REALLY need a Wildcard to carry two secondaries...
I love the cross bow
I equip 2 Combat Axes with my Crossbow class for close quarter battles. Sometimes if I stick someone up close and they're firing at me, I'll toss an axe just to secure the quick kill. It also helps if I run into multiple opponents or I get caught were I need to reload. It really helps when running the crossbow as a primary.
You didn't even mention the drop of the bolt?!
I just got this thing gold! I'm NEVER picking it up again!
thats what i thought about the launchers and the ksg :< still cant find an agr
Yahikkox i fucking love the ksg
i have got it diamond ;)
Have it diamond
The crossbow isn't a silenced weapon, so with or without the explosion, firing makes you show up as a blip on the map.
Plus there are plenty of times where I've fired the crossbow and people hear the explosion but don't assume that it's aimed at them. People toss grenades and C4's around so often that rarely do I ever get someone detecting me merely due to having an explosive tip.
Plus, in Hard Core, the explosion is an instant-kill without Flak. The explosive tip is much more valuable.
It was nerfed from BO1? People used it in BO1? I thought the thing was a joke weapon to begin with because it was so pitiful. lol GJ Treyarch.
it will be funny if my friends play the Nerf crossbow outside in the snow
Hey there,
I found out that there IS a way how to survive a direct impact of the crossbow. When equipped with an assault shield and flak jacket you can avoid death I believe by switching to your secondary when your assault shield has been hit with the crossbow. Not 100% sure though how the mechanic exactly works, but it is possible.
And keep up the good vids, I really enjoy them!
The cross boes ar amazing can u macke another viddeo with it
There is one way to survive a direct impact, which can also be done if you are stuck with semtex. You need a trophy system, and fast hands perk. When you are stuck, immediately put down the trophy system. It will blast it off of you.
It does, and I'm surprised he didn't discuss this aspect at all. The arrows have dropoff over distance unlike the bullets in the game. I was trying to snipe someone across the map on Drone and couldn't even shoot that far.
I wish u could have 2 secondary weapons in a class
your reviews help me so much. Keep up the good work.
Quick tip, I have had a lot of success defeating assault shields with the crossbow. One bolt into the shield kills them on explosion. I didn't test it, its just based on a dozen or so occurences.
Was looking forward to more commentary on the Tri-Bolt, since that's the only thing people use the crossbow for once they prestige it. The range, spread, etc. become completely different, so was hoping for more analysis on this.
Honestly, tri-bolt is the best attachment in this game. It might not be viable in a general situation, but as a last ditch effort, or just dicking around, it is the most fun weapon to use. You normally don't expect 3 bolts in one area, and when it explodes, anyone in the radius is bound to die.
If you're good at knifing (which is very unlikely for this game, but some can do it), you can make a class out of tri-bolt and stealth knifing. It's pretty fun, I'd suggest trying to get it.
Play in Hardcore game modes.
Without the flak jacket perk, all you need to do is land a shot near enough to them, and the explosion is guaranteed to kill.
Also, in hard-core, the bolt itself will kill in one hit before it even gets to explode, which, if you're using the Scavenger perk, will make them drop a pack for you to get more arrows out of.
So, yeah, Crossbow is for hardcore modes.
ACOG isn't a bad attachment either. The reticle I used was target range drop so I could use the other dots when someone's too far.
Can some people please like this for Drift0r to notice? If you're running Flak Jacket, in core, and are undamaged and someone sticks your assault shield with the crossbow, you can survive. This is due to the impact damage not hitting you, but it still counts as being stuck.
It seems this is the best secondary for counter-sniping. Makes sense, I used it in BO1 for spamming sniper spots. Its a fantastic secondary if your primary is short ranged, like a shotgun or rapid-fire smg.
I'm really happy they added attachments to the crossbow now. They just need to buff it a little bit
i'm not an expert, but i do use the crossbow for fun. and i found that at short - medium range you most likely will not feel a drop on the bolt trajectory, just try to aim in the upper chest area. but if you are firing long-range targets, you definately will notice the bolt fall. in those cases, aim above the target a little bit. can be very frustrating to get your targets right, but once you get a feel for it, it gets very fun.
quick scoping with the crossbow like a boss
Great review as usual drift0r
I found that the crossbow is pretty useful for blowing up vehicles from across the map that enemies have clustered around. It's easy to get doubles or even triples this way.
One thing that I found is if you shoot the bolt over a trophey sytem and the person that tossed it down is near by it ussually kills them its fun to hear to reactions
That's weird you say that a stick will always kill because, if you get on split screen, fire a bolt into someone with flak jacket they can survive, I've had that happen numerous times. I'm always moving to the side when I survive, but that really is something to look into.
I feel like not having the explosive tip would be better because, like you said no large explosion, but more importantly because it would do that 10 damage to someone that scares them off. It's like the combat ax except if you miss then it will scare them off or they might kill you
Are you sure about that?
He mention the tri-bolt attachments a few times in the episode. 8:03
He recommended the dual band or the variable zoom for the crossbow. 7:44
3:40 Force the crossbow bolt through a wall (like walk next to a wall so part of your body sticks into it) and you'll live. One of my friends managed to pull this off in sticks and stones next to one of the tanks on Standoff. Him, another guy who saw it happen, and I were all "WTF? HOW???"
Something about watching driftor quick scope with a crossbow is just awesome hahaha
No what we need is two weapons slots (like now) Either of them can have a primary or secondary but only one primary is allowed unless using overkill, this means you can have 2 secondaries
I was hoping for a trajectory review here, to know how much the bolt drops over distance. But still pretty informative.
I think if the explosive blast radius is so small it should be a stealth weapon or if they keep it a non-stealth weapon it should do more damage to people inside of the blast radius or they should expand the blast radius
This video made the crossbow look insane lol your aim is fantastic man
This episode was the shit Drift0r! Your a beast! I loved the variable zoom. Nice clean scope.
I said that when the game came out. I also feel that you should be able to have two attachments by default when only using a secondary (losing the second attachment when equipping a Primary). I hate needing to use Secondary Gunfighter on my Pistol when I have no intent of carrying a primary with it.
for some reason when u kill someone with the tri-bolt crossbow, or normal it doesnt give a scavenger pack... that sucks cause I can't seem to get the bloodthirsty camo challenge
Look forward to the ballistic knife, I want to watch tomahawk in depth.
Drift0r is a beast with the crossbow
I actually had this happen to me to, from what I can figure you don't hit the car directly with the bolt, you have to shoot the bolt next to the car and it will count.
In my experience if you are stuck with a bolt, you my live if you have a trophy system up. This may or may not be true, but has worked a couple of times.
amazingly, one of my favourite weapons. VERy underrated :) thanks drift
Driftor I took your advice on your other video about using a handgun and then going back to an smg and you were right I started doing amazing! I went 50-5!
If you have a riot shield and flack jacket, you can sometimes survive a crossbow bolt at direct impact
@Ayrton G. When you get hit via contact or stick with grenades to will die, you are not immune to explosions all the time if so it would be pointless to not use the perk. Just trying to help
I got an across the map kill on Carrier in sticks and stones, and just before the bolt explodes, the game ends... It would have been the most epic killcam ever.
It seems that when the bolt is in a person the explosion is lessened, like if u stick a guy, a guy beside him won't die from the explosion no matter how close he is.
The crossbow is the most hilarious weapon. It makes for great killcams and is like a last laugh. However it can be survived if it hits an assault shield (wether you have the flak jacket perk or not)
If all 3 hit an assault shield its still a death sentence. Haven't seen anyone drop the shield and run yet and I've gotten quite a few sticks.
They need a stealth option, where you switch from a semtex (that really needs a good buffing) to a single, silent, one shot kill bolt.
thanks for suggesting for shotgun class. Helped me out a lot!
people like you are the people we dont need in this community, and fyi when i say i can beat you, theres arent just words, theyre action.
Thanks for the confirmation. As soon as I unlock the crossbow (again) I'm going to give it a try :)
I think that the crossbow should start out as stealth but there should be an explosive bolt attachment which removes the stealth, but the explosion should be quite big...
you can survive the crossbow explosion if you have a trophy system next to you or you throw one right when you get stuck
it's the explosives on the arrows that force it to follow the rule of being radar revealing.
the bloodthirsty awards were hard to get since you only have 6 shots but other that that diamond specials were pretty easy
1:54 dat guickscope bro
I have survived a direct impact twice. it is a glitch- if you kill the person who hit you immeadiately after they stick you, and they instantly respawn you can survive.
Actually it makes sense when you think of what it does. It launches EXPLOSIVE arrows, would you like someone running around with a cross bow and firing off multiple explosive one-hit-kill rounds?
Especially on HC, though you need a UAV for a minimap in HC
The thing that makes me think it would become too powerful if it gets buffed is the Tri-Bolt attachment. You would probably be able to kill Flak Jacket users without stucking them.
Hey man completely off topic (sort off).
Question, after you obtain 'Prestige Master' do you still receive the 'Match Bonus XP' that appears after the game?
I have come to believe you don't which is complete BS.
Unless it doesn't show up under the 'career' leaderboards because that is where I am looking.
When i was working on getting this weapon gold i really liked the acog scope.
yes, there is an arch at long distances people normally aim sightly above their target
The only way to survive a stick from the crossbow is to run into a room with a freindly trophy system. However, the time it takes to do it might take to long.
I thought the crossbow was great in BO, always had it equipped as a secondary. You had 2 arrows that were more lethal than BO 2. Using the tri-bolt gives you about the same effect. I always have it equipped in BO 2. There is not many things that make me laugh while playing BO 2, but sticking someone with a crossbow from way downtown is always hilarious!! Great video.
Seeing as dual wield is too badass of an attachment for me to remove from my crossbow, I'll simply have to pile more impossible attachments on top of it.
I love my dual wielded sawed-off crossbows
Do the variable zoom and dual band scope affect the visual amount, if that makes sense, you have to compensate for the drop? It would make sense you would have to aim higher on your screen, due to the higher level of zoom, however, the clips in the video seem to contradict this.
I think it was buffed since BO1, I like the extra ammo and attachments more than the explosive damage.
you can still replenish your bolts with scavenger. You may not get scav packs from your kills, but other people are killing, too
Aim down sights and if they're moving compensate for the movement by aiming slightly ahead of them.
Galkofer really likes the crossbow...also drift0r what will your first in depth "comparison" be?
once you get try bolt. Its amazing. I have mine in gold from using it so much to the point were I almost always get a guaranteed kill if I aim even a little off target (crosshairs not on the body) because of the 3 bolts.
The Crossbow needs a shit ton of new attachments like shock charges,non explosive, incendiary etc.
It might make the Crossbow usable.
You get more bolts when you get a scavenger pack but you can only get up to 6 bolts total(including the ones in the mag)
One time I got stuck in the beginning of a game. It didn't explode. I just ran around with an annoying beep and bright light following me. When I died, it stayed on the ground where a died for a while and eventually disappeared. Survived the crossbow!!
when do you plan on making an episode on the trophy system?
Yea that would be nice but if you get the tri-bolt attachment your basically set except on ammo tribolt makes killing much easier.
If you are having trouble to get the bloodthirsty medals create a class with the knife and the crossbow and scavenger. You need to get 5 kills with the crossbow in the same life, but not consecutive so knife and get the scavenger packs :)
i know, like normal bolts would be a one-shot one kill think, with posibility of penetrating and getting a coladeral. explosive should be an attachment with more damage than what it has right now
Awesome video...why didn't you cover the slop or drop distance for the bolt?
You never said anything about it vs assault shields
Sticking multiple people with the tri-bolt is the most enjoyable thing in this game
DRIFTOR if you press rt and x while using the ballistics knife it makes u reload faster try it out
This is a good analysis video of the crossbow so I tried it last night on both core and hardcore modes and the crossbow is bad! It is so slow and you only have 6 bolts of ammo. It was worth a try anyway. I wish Treyarch would buff this weapon by increasing the ammo count.
Nice long shots with dual band drift ^^
4:52 did you notice how his mates moved backward each time they fired a bolt?
While I agree that a nonexplosive X-bow would be awesome, for some reason 1 hit kill bolts sounds like it'd be too good, I know that the current x-bow will kill in one hit because of the explosion, so I can't explain why it sounds too good. Maybe have it work like the DSR, below the waist=2 hits, anything above=instant kill.