Operation Market Garden
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- Number one in a series planned about battles and other historical events. The first video's will focus on WWII battles. More than anything else these first video's are a proof of concept. Therefore I would like to hear your feedback. If you like the video please press thumbs up! And if you are interested in seeing more subscribe.
This whole clusterfuck of an operation and why it failed can best be summed up like this. "I think the Germans had something to do with it." Honestly, no one gives the Germans credit that they were able to put up stiff resistance where necessary and made pivotal moves that ensured the allied offensive became bogged down.
I think the British were too busy brewing Tea to fight. It’s too bad John Frost was not reinforced.
Bernard didn't show up for Monty Garden he pushed for then got this operation approved.Then got lost when it started to unravel unlike a real commanders Field Marshall Walter Model and General Kurt Student who understood modern mobile warfare
It had way too many moving parts and zero margin of error. So anything that could go wrong pretty much did go wrong
Recent Times article that Anthony Blunt may have betrayed it
It was 30th Corps, not the 30th Corpse.
XXX Corps (Roman numerals) in the King's Army / British Royal Army -armored tank & armored personnel carriers units
yeah, but corps is pronounced core, not corpse
a corpse is a dead body, a corps creates them
Exactly hahahahaha
How the fuck does an adult not know this?
I promise guys, not all Americans are as fucking dim-witted as this youtuber.
I don't know man they did have a lot of casualties so corps kinda sounds right
good vid, but i cringe everytime he says "corpse" instead of corps XD
Same pronunciation
Pronounced: Core
The 3 airborne divisions totaled ~30,000 men, not 20K
I've been an amateur historian for 30 years and I have studied this operation as much as any other. At the end of the day, the responsibility has to fall upon Eisenhower because he was the one who allowed it to take place when he really should have known better. Eisenhower should have trusted Bradley by that point and he (Bradley) bitterly objected to this farce. I don't know how history ended up letting Eisenhower off the hook and dumping all the blame on Montgomery but in any case, the commanding officer is always where the buck stops. This never should have been allowed to take place- period.
You've read the wrong books then IKE should have been reassigned and the counter productive absent Bernard sacked!!! O'Connor.Auchinleck or Simmonds of the Canadian Army would have been a great choice - Monty was ass and was on the same side as 2 emerging world powers
@@bigwoody4704 Who knows where O Connor might have ended up if he had not been captured by the Italians in 1941. Perhaps the campaign in North-Africa lasts a few months less long. With the reinforcements I think he could have taken Tripoli before Rommel could do much about it.
Holy fuck never knew that the operation happened like a kilometer away from my house.
MelonMan/RomanScrub have you ever watching Band of Brothers ? everyone knows from that tv series I think
It’s a shame, A lot of work went into making this video but I can’t even watch it because the narrator keeps pronouncing corps “corpse”
very good making. It will help me in military history lesson. keep up the good work
They should have used Mantreads
God this channel has so much potential if they gave it a chance
Great video, quality content, easely understandable. *10/10*
Hey folks, "Corps" is always KÔR as in Marine Corps. The p and s are always silent.
Can you do the hunt for the German battleship Bismarck next?
Not sure what corpses the narrator is referring to. A “corps” is pronounced “core”. Also the H in Arnhem is silent.
'Corpse' is theatrical slang for spoiling your lines. Ironically.
I hate when people say corpse and not core (Corps). I'm guessing it's AI narrated.
Is this your only video?
it sounded to me that the plan could have worked if the British drop could have went all in on the first day of operations instead of having to make 2 trips
Corps is pronounced core...Core, core, core, core, core. I bristled every time he said corps.
we’re the germans heer or ss?
Every branch of the German military was represented, from SS, Heer, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine and RAD. If you have any specific questions on German units at a specific location, I would be happy to give them a name check, but for the entire operation there are far too many to mention.
In the first week of September, the Germans used the Operation 'Valkyrie' Plan to mobilise the Reserve Army, which consisted of training and replacement units, and many were based in the German occupied Netherlands and involved in fighting Market Garden.
I didn't know a corpse could do so much.
Well you heard it hear first
tnx
The “corpses”. sure were active for a bunch of dead people.
Pls make more videos!
polecam na yt Pierwsza Samodzielna Brygada Spadochronowa. Market Garden. Generał Stanisław Sosabowski 1 SBS. IIws
In my thinking spy for Soviet has already sounding this operation to German.
Soviet want to reaching German for the first time than US.
You don't pronounce the 'ps' in Corps, just say "Cor". It is a military unit, not a dead body. But otherwise good video champ.
wait a minute so once they captured Nijmegen they actually reached Arnhem, just to save the Polish and the 1 Airborne so they coould withdraw. In the film "The bridge too far" it was the British who came with boats to saves them.
No,, it was the Americans that came in boats (Robert Redford was the Major), and the british were on the other side.. and didn't want to move...!
that was an nice move
Zeliard99
*Total nonsense.* The 82nd dropped in territory full of rivers and canals with boats. The British provided engineering boats for the 82nd used by the Baily Bridge teams. 20% of the men who went over in the boats were Brits (Sappers). They lost more of their numbers than the Yanks.
You knob,not one fooking Brit were in those boats and you know it .Brits were in some tanks(10) offering covering fire.Listen to the narrator - poor plan.
Make more videos, I beg you!!
Could you do something about finland
The Winter War is a very interesting subject. Next video I'm working on is The Battle of the Bulge. I will put the Winter war on the to do list.
Maps of History Thank you
Why? Does it need invading?
Corps is pronounced "core", not "corpse".
Montgomery's stupid gamble to avoid Patton getting to Germany ahead of him. Disgusting !
Why would Montgomery want to 'avoid Patton getting to Germany ahead of him'?
@@thevillaaston7811 Montgomery and Patton were two strong personalities whom had different attitudes in regarding the conduct of the war. Added to that the general resentment the British at large held due to the Americans in general being their former subjects and that the Americans had to come for the second time in the century and pull their "nuts" out of the fire. I could go into greater detail about their different strategies but that would've take considerable time. The Market Garden operation was an unmitigated disaster which lengthen the war
@@thevillaaston7811 Excuse me for slipping away like that. As I was saying the failure of Market Garden lengthened the war costing more lives an wasting resources. The result was an emboldened German army and depleted supplies for the Allies and resulted in the Battle of the Bulge some months later, which cost more Allied and civilian lives. Many of the American commanders realized that German high command had almost succeeded in killing Hitler and that they would capitulate if given the chance and Patton saw this and was driving towards Germany when he was deprived of supplies diverted for Market Garden
@@casualobserver485
Not really...
The First World War was won by British, French, and Russian blood, along with the Royal Navy blockade of Germany. The USA only turned up when it was time for tea and medals. When compared to the war as a whole, the amount of fighting the US forces did was miniscule. The Second World War outcome had been decided in 1940 and 1941, before the USA joined the war. The idea that Britons resented Americans because of events, that were then 165 years ago is absurd.
Market Garden freed a fifth of the Dutch population, hindered German rocket attacks on London, stretched German forces another 50 miles and left the allies well placed to advance into Germany in the months that followed. Is 17,000 losses should be compared to allied defeats in the same period at Aachen (20,000), Metz (45,000) and the Hurtgen Forest (55,000).
Market Garden lengthen the war?...How so ?
@@casualobserver485
Not really...
If American commanders 'realized that German high command had almost succeeded in killing Hitler and that they would capitulate if given the chance' then they chose the wrong course of action to make it happen. Eisenhower's broad front strategy racked up allied casualties, some, but not all which I noted in my previous comment. The broad front strategy gave the Germans what they most wanted, time and space to re-build and expand their forces. Montgomery commanded the land campaign from D-Day to the 31st August 1944, in which time he cleared France and gave the Germans a defeat as big as Stalingrad. Eisenhower took over on the 1st September, and in the next three months, the allies went just 45 miles further forward.
No supplies were diverted from Bradley's armies to Montgomery's armies for Market Garden, the only additional supplies that Montgomery received for the launching of Market Garden were 500 tons per day, by air, which had previously be used to supply the civillian population of Paris. That is why Eisenhower agreed to Market Garden, it did not disturb his broad front strategy.
It’s pronounced like core not corpse
A good summary mauled by bad pronunciation. Corpse? Arn-Hem? Oysterbeak? Sheesh!
I can stand most mispronunciations but that really grates on me. 30th corpse? I cringe every time I hear it. corps = kor.
A bridge too far
The British 1st Airborne made it to Arnhem bridge, taking the north end of the bridge, denying its use to the Germans.
The other two airborne units, both US, *failed* to seize their assigned bridges immediately. If they had XXX Corps would have been in Arnhem on d-day+1, before any armour came in from Germany. Game set and match.
The Germans would not have known what had hit them.
The *12 hour delay* caused by the 101st not seizing the Zon bridge, meant the Germans for 12 hours had a critical *_time window_* to pour in troops and get armour moving towards Arnhem.
The *36 hour delay,* on top of the 12 hour delay, caused by the 82nd not seizing their bridge at Nijmegen (XXX Corps had to take it for them), meant another longer time window for the Germans to keep up the reinforcing. The 36 hour delay created by the 82nd, meant a bridgehead over the Rhine was precluded, as the *two day time window* given to the Germans was far too long.
The British paras did their part in securing a crossing over its assigned waterway, the Rhine. The two US para units *failed* in theirs. XXX Corps never put a foot wrong.
More bullshit Monty was giving young lads like you a bath and failed to show up at Market Garden like a real Field Marshall Model. Monty never got driven into the sea again once the GIs arrived - imagine that. Burns when they remove your ankle monitor maybe the special needs unit will take you to wally World
@@bigwoody4704
Rambo, a quiz.
Name the British general who had to take command of two shambolic US armies in the German Bulge attack?
20 points for the correct answer.
This one's barking, Quizz why wasn't Monty arrested for Buggery? Because it was the best time of John Burns life !!!
@@bigwoody4704
*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!* Wrong answer.
Rambo, the British general who had to take command of two shambolic US armies in the German Bulge attack.was....
🍾🎈🎊 *General Montgomery* 🍾🎈🎊
Zero points Rambo. Zero. Better luck next time.
Puddles I'm in a good mood and feel like administering a good pounding to you .
So let's revisit shall we,did you visit those fine Czech folks like I told you to?Did you explain why your crown sold them out to the NAZI's in 1938 ?
Did you explain to the French why you left them covering your retreat in 1940 while Monty was boarding the boats and they were taking bullets? Kind of explains why they came back with the GIs and took Southern France while Winnie and Brooke wanted to keep faffing around in Italy.
How about the Dutch did you tell them why Monty left them on the horn of the Hun and the Hunger Winter that followed after he didn't have the nerve to show up for an operation that he brageed would take him to Berlin that took him backwords to Antwerp? Burns monty had the spine of a gummy bear
Propaganda!!!!
I bike across the john frost bridge every day!
I am sure it is a very nice place. I hope to visit one day.
I was there 2 days ago to see for myself what I was told first hand .A very nice Dutch woman helped me with information of the area and took my picture for me .So nice .Much appreciated .God bless .Love from Scotland. X
Went to Holland last Summer and saw as many bridges as I could. Beautiful country.
lucky
Omg its pronounced CORE! NOT CORPSE! lord jesus!
But that's how Obama pronounces it! :D :D :D
I can't listen now! corpse...come on
If you think that's bad, wait until a Dutch person here complains how badly pronounced all the toponyms are :D
Either the narrator is ignorant or they are utilizing a computer voice. If it is a computer voice, then they are using a text to voice converter program. It's not that smart. If words are pronounced differently than they spelled, then you have to change the spelling of the text to guarantee it is pronounced correctly. For instance you may want to say that 30th corps advanced to the river. In the text you have to change it to say 30th cor advanced to the river, so that the computer pronounces it correctly.
@@sce2aux464 a year old but still stfu. He hasn't been president for like 3 when you made this comment, get the fuck over him, snowflake.
Corps is a dead body- this is a well intentioned piece disastrously narrated
*corpse
Corps pronounced same as core
I honestly couldn’t finish the video due to the narrators inability to correctly pronounce “corps”
Did he not even watch ‘Gettysburg’?
Me too, even 2 years later they haven't bothered to fix it, I'm killing the vid at 3:16. I cannot believe an adult narrating a vid would have never heard "corps" before.
that's what happens, when you make a fool a fieldmarshel.
monty wasnt a fool and thats coming from me an AMERICAN
@@davecocoa3866 monty used our larger American forces like a kid whos given his parents inheritance before his 18th birthday
you mean Von Rundstedt?
Um no he wanted to retreat - no surprise there,Gens.Collins & Harmon ignored the rube and went on the offensiv.Monty was forced to apologise for lying about his contributions.Pretty much like he did after the war
Arturo Hernandez More British died in Operation Market Garden than American didn’t they?
I don't think Market Garden could have ever worked, there was too much that had to be "perfect" for it to succeed, and everyone knows that in combat nothing ever goes as planned, ESPECIALLY with the unfamiliarity of how to use airborne troops. Even just one blown bridge and the whole element of speed is lost. And asking the Airborne divisions to hold their DZ's for days AND to assault bridges and towns (especially one the size of Arnhem...) is just madness. Doens't matter if you're the Red Devils or 101st or 82nd, paratroopers cant hold an open field against an SS Armored Division, let alone all of Arnhem.
Great video, its always good to see timelapse maps like this to understand complicated situations where units are scattered all over. Trying to read about Market Garden is very confusing, i can only imagine the confusion of the commanders. I think another interesting video would be the Battle of Mogadishu. Its similar to this one where theres a really sketchy plan with almost no backup preparations in case things go wrong. And of course things go very, very wrong.
Oh and by the way "Corps" is pronounced like "core" :)
I do agree that the plan was doomed to fail, it was far to bold. It captures the imagination though.
Definitely. Without all the details the plan sounds foolproof, drop at three points and simply thread the needle. But 60 miles through occupied country in 2 days was simply impossible.
The plan was sound, all it needed was each unit to do its job in securing the bridge it was assigned. The US 82nd failed at Nijmegen. The failure came down to General Gavin of the 82nd. They dawdled for 6 hours before attacking the bridge, and then with only 40 men, with 3,000 jumping, and failed because they allowed the Germans to reinforce the bridge.
John Burns you can’t blame it solely on one regiment. XXX corps, was veeeeerrrrrrryyyyy lax in their approach towards after the 82nd and XXX secured the bridge. Plus the boats they got to cross the river didn’t even have fucking oars 😂😂. So they had to use hands, rifle butts, and their pockets to get a breeze to get to the other side.
I wish in this video it’d show how close XXX corps was to the 1st. It almost worked
xWhocaresX,
I blamed it on the 82nd, because they never did what they were supposed to do. XXX Corps got to Nijmegen *ahead* of schedule. Instead of rolling over the Nijmegen bridge they were disappointed to see it still in German hands. In country with lots of bridges and canals, the 82nd didn't even take proper boats, but took a bulldozer. They used the British Bailey bridge engineers boats which were used to construct the bridges. 20% of the men in the boats were British Sappers, who lost more of their numbers than the 82nd men.
Seeing the pictures of the old bridge makes me appreciate Post Scriptums accuracy.
This completely misses the point that the 82nd were supposed to take the bridge at Nijmagen as quickly as possible before 30 Corps arrived. They didnt because General Gavin of the 82nd prioritised the taking of the Heights outside Nijmagen. As a result the bridge wasn't taken until 30 Corps turned up and as a result became 36 hours late.
The Tanks sat when it was taken and it wasn't taken until they arrived,go take on armor with a Thompson or a M-1
I just watched the movie A Bridge To Far. Excellent movie and Frost was badass
I'm sorry...."Thirty CORPSE?" Its Corps ("KOR", or "CORE"). You lost me there, pal.
The British, Irish Guards and American Airborne soldiers fought valantly. It was Eishenhower appeasing Monty that screwed this up. Should have given Patton the gasoline and we would have been in Berlin before the Soviets. Couldn't do that because we had to appease Stalin too.
@John CornellDuring the build up for Market Garden the Germans used the time to reorganize and fortify Metz. Patton was also being ordered to conserve supplies while going against French forts occupied by germans, Attacks were repelled so XX corps were taken out of the line to train on methods of attacking these fortresses. I get that it took a while. If he had been allowed to keep pushing instead of hold the Germans would not have had time to reorganize at Metz
@John Cornell Would agree that they were both great taticians. Would have been a much longer war without them.
And cheers to you as well. Best Allies the the USA has ever had.
Berlin was never an objective of the American forces. Gen. Marshal didn't want to spill American blood in a drive toward Berlin when the Yalta Conference had already decided that Berlin was to fall withing the Soviet sector of a post war divided Germany. Marshal saw no need to take Berlin at a high cost when it was to be given back to the Soviets anyway. As it was, the capture of Berlin cost the Red Army 100,000 casualties. Marshal quite rightly wanted no part of an ultimately futile effort.
@@robertbaker4284
What has that got to do with Market Garden?
My grandad lived then in arnhem, he survived it and he told me everything about it.... It was a hard battle....
At 7:16, in the far right corner, I can see the window I'm sitting behind right now. :D
Very cool
this is an very important mission for me being dutch, i go to that place and keep imaging what it would be 70 years+ ago
I live in Arnhem!
Faninho i lived in Arnhem!
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Watch out for a descendant of Jimmy Patterson barging through your house!
my grandfather fought at arnhem in this battle also one of the few to return uninjured all at the age of 15/16 thank fuck the poles showed up otherwise i may not of been here
Haha ik ook
I truly hope that the whole "corpse" thing is a joke. Would otherwise have been a fair, informative video. The focus becomes the bad pronunciation and misspeaking a rather common verbal abbreviation.
Really great video! Makes the subject accessible without thinning out too many details. Looking forward to more.
Too many hurdles and false expectations. One, airborne infantry are too light to hold or secure positions for any lengthy period against a force with access to rail and road and capable of bringing in armor and artillery at will. Two, Montgomery knew but didn't reveal he was aware of an intelligence report that German units had at the last minute moved into the area of Arnheim; so he decided to plow ahead without changing his plan to rely on airborne forces to fight off much stronger infantry and armor in Arnheim. Three, too many bridges and canals to secure and cross. The loss of any single one for any extended time meant delay and delay meant the Germans would be able to reinforce and block the advance, which did occur. The general area was not suited for use of armor for attacking but ideal for armor used in a defensive role. The Germans knew they only had to defend narrow corridors of access with their anti-tank guns. The whole plan in essence was doomed to fail, and this was such a tragedy given the courage and sacrifices of the paratroopers engaged in the operation.
'Montgomery knew but didn't reveal he was aware of an intelligence report that German units had at the last minute moved into the area of Arnheim; so he decided to plow ahead without changing his plan to rely on airborne forces to fight off much stronger infantry and armor in Arnheim.'
Your words.
Montgomery knew no more than Allied Land Forces Commander, Eisenhower, First Allied Airborne Army Commander Brereton.
A SHAEF Intelligence Summary week ending September 4th 1944 stated that the German forces facing Montgomery's armies were "no longer a cohesive force but a number of fugitive battlegroups, disorganised and even demoralised, short of equipment and arms".
Are you his like Swiss Boy?Ah another of Monty's apologists pokes his head out of Monty's backside to explain why Monty was not responsible for the failure of Monty's plan. Monty even admitted - a bad mistake on my part
SHAEF finally realized giving good troops to Monty was making Russian generals look like humanitarians.Attacking up a 64 mile lane with no room for maneuver and winter closing in is the idea of an idiot that had no business leading a boy scout troop
*From Eisenhower's Armies,by Dr Niall Barr,page 415* After the failure of Market-Garden,Eisenhower held a conference on 5 October 1944 that not only provided a post mortem on the operation but in which he reiterated his strategy for the campaign.Alan Brooke was present as an observer,noted that IKE's strategy continued to focus on the clearance of the Scheldt Estuary,followed by an advance on the Rhine,the capture of the Ruhr and a subsequent advance on Berlin.
After a full and frank discussion in which Admiral Ramsey criticised Montgomery freely,Brooke was moved to write, *I feel that Monty's strategy for once is at fault,instead of carrying out the advance on Arnhem he ought to have made certain of Antwerp in the 1st place....IKE nobly took all the blame on himself as he had approved Monty's suggestion to operate on Arnhem*
Big Woody is a liar, and this is why:
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Lead comment:
John Cornell
3 weeks ago (as of 31 07 2020)
Patton should have kept his mouth shut and concentrated on achieving his task of taking Metz, which had been his objective two weeks before Market Garden and yet still hadn't done it 8 weeks after Market Garden.
The 25th reply is the lie:
Big Woody
1 week ago (as of 31 07 2020)
Das Deutsches Afrika-korps: Siege und Niederlage. By Hanns-Gert von Esebeck, page 188 Returning from North Africa with an inflated ego after the comparatively easy defeat of the German Africa Corps, he considered himself to be the greatest commander ever. Later information has revealed that he inflated the number of German casualties to improve his image. At El Alamein he claimed that there were more German casualties than there were German troops all together on the actual front!
This is were Big Woody unwisely took it from:
ww2f.com/threads/what-went-wrong-with-operation-market-garden.28468/page-5#post-389603
What went wrong with Operation Market Garden?
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'Returning from North Africa with an inflated ego after the comparatively easy defeat of the German Africa Corps, he considered himself to be the greatest commander ever. Later information has revealed that he inflated the number of German casualties to improve his image.
At El Alamein he claimed that there were more German casualties than there were German troops all together on the actual front!' ...
RAM, July 28 2010
...From another opinion in a hack forum, not from 'Das Deutsches Afrika-korps: Siege und Niederlage. By Hanns-Gert von Esebeck' as Big Woody claimed.
Vile Ass - Get the Book and have your handler read it to you- it's in English as the link showed.Or when you get your ankle monitor removed they will allow you into the library
Monty screwed this up proper. Patton beat him across Sicily, and he was looking to outdo Patton, but he fumbled again in Market Garden. Patton was a better commander, plain and simple.
Total Rubbish.
There is not a shred of evidence that Montgomery ever tried to outdo Patton.
Why would he?
Montgomery was an army group commander in another army and thus was more senior than Patton.
Patton got himself sidelined for D-Day and Normandy by attacking his own soldiers and was then left to command a single US army.
As for Sicily read this:
From a review of BITTER VICTORY The Battle for Sicily, 1943, By Carlo D'Este.
Review written by Walter Lord in the New York Times: 27/11/1988.
‘Montgomery was heading for Messina too, but the German forces still on the island threw up a tough defense line and it was late July before Montgomery worked his way through them and resumed his advance. Fans of the movie ''Patton'' think they know what happened next. Montgomery marched into Messina at the head of his triumphant troops - to find a smirking Patton waiting for him. Mr. D'Este assures us it didn't happen that way. Patton was indeed trying to beat Montgomery to Messina, but Montgomery would not make a race of it. He wanted only to keep the Germans from escaping and realized Patton was in the best position to accomplish that. In fact he urged Patton to use roads assigned to the Eighth Army.’
For your convenience, the link below will take you to this review…
www.nytimes.com/1988/11/27/books/the-finish-line-was-messina.html
Bull Crap monty later admitted the Americans outperformed him in Sicily.Alexander was giving him the paved roads and preferable routes and the rube still stutter stepped it like everything else he did
Ronald Reagan Rocks1
Again, for those do not read:
From a review of BITTER VICTORY The Battle for Sicily, 1943, By Carlo D'Este.
Review written by Walter Lord in the New York Times: 27/11/1988.
‘Montgomery was heading for Messina too, but the German forces still on the island threw up a tough defense line and it was late July before Montgomery worked his way through them and resumed his advance. Fans of the movie ''Patton'' think they know what happened next. Montgomery marched into Messina at the head of his triumphant troops - to find a smirking Patton waiting for him. Mr. D'Este assures us it didn't happen that way. Patton was indeed trying to beat Montgomery to Messina, but Montgomery would not make a race of it. He wanted only to keep the Germans from escaping and realized Patton was in the best position to accomplish that. In fact he urged Patton to use roads assigned to the Eighth Army.’
For your convenience, the link below will take you to this review…
www.nytimes.com/1988/11/27/books/the-finish-line-was-messina.html
Btw BigWoody also goes by he name of Para Dave. He is from Ohio in the US of A and he seems to like posting on TH-cam when he is out of school.
*ladislas Farago - Patton: Ordeal and Triumph (New York: Astor-Honor, Inc., Inc., 1964), p. 505* 'If Manstein was Germany's greatest strategist during World War II, Balck has strong claims to be regarded as our finest field commander. He has a superb grasp of tactics and great qualities of leadership' - Major-General von Mellenthin
General Balck, commenting on the Lorraine Campaign, said: "Patton was the outstanding tactical genius of World War II. I still consider it a privilege and an unforgettable experience to have had the honor to oppose him"
*From Patton:A Genius for War,By Carlo D'Este* After the War General Fritz Bayerlein commander of Panzer Lehr Division and the Afrika Corp.He assessed the escape of Rommel's Panzers after Alamein *I do not think General Patton would have let us get away so easily" said Bayerlein .Comparing Patton with Guderian and Montgomery with Von Rundstedt*
@@thevillaaston7811 Patton was assigned command of the "Ghost Divisions" which was an elaborate counter-intelligence plan to distract the Germans from the actual Normandy invasion. So yes, in a way he didn't have a lot of actual soldiers as these divisions existed only on paper, but it was a convincing ruse that _worked_ .
I love how every time a Brit tries to make it sound like the Americans were slackers while the Brits were delayed, they fall back on "tough opposition on route" or some BS. Monty was slow to Palermo just like Horrocks was slow to Nijmegen. It wasn't Gavin's job to get XXX Corps up Hell's Highway - he had taken the bridge by the time they got around to showing up.
MARKET GARDEN, SCREWED UP IN THE PLANNING STAGE.
They encountered the regrouping 9th and 10th Waffen SS Divisions, SS and SS Landstorm units, German Heer's LXXXIV Korps, Kampfgruppe Walther, Kampfgruppe Chill and a good number of other Heer and Luftwaffe field units that showed our friends what a real war is. They cut Hell's Highway on three occassions and long enough to cause a debacle. It wasn't a failure, it was just a test of willpower.
The failure to secure the Nijmegen highway bridge on the first day was a command failure in 82nd Airborne Division (Gavin) and the 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment (Lindquist). Lindquist failed to interpret Gavin's instruction to send his 1st Battalion directly to the bridge after landing with the required urgency. This exposed the weakness of Gavin's divisional plan, since he assigned his least aggressive and experienced regiment to the critical Nijmegen mission, and also discarded a British request to drop a battalion on the north end of the Nijmegen bridge, and that suggestion in itself was a replacement for USAAF officers Brereton and Williams at 1st Allied Airborne Army having deleted Browning's planned glider coup de main assaults on the Arnhem-Nijmegen-Grave bridges.
The Germans didn't need an invitation to occupy Nijmegen and reinforce its bridges - the door was left open for them.
This whole operation was a severe misuse of some exceptional personnel and materiel. The Glider Pilot Regiment provided the means to assault and take the bridges over the Caen canal. A more clinical precision strike should have preceded the body of the assault on each of the bridges at night. Yes, it was a long shot to start with, but stupid planning negated the power of the forces used, and doomed some of the best forces of the allies.
The GPR provided the pilots, and although they were trained and equipped to fight as light infantry once on the ground, I hardly think the 12 pilots of the six gliders landing at Pegasus Bridge should take all the credit. Their passengers were D Company, 2nd (Airborne) Battalion, Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry - at establishment that would be 127 men.
Similar glider coup de main operations were planned at dawn for the Grave, Nijmegen and Arnhem bridges for Operation Comet using a Company from each of the three Airlanding Battalions, and the Glider Pilot that flew the lead glider at Pegasus Bridge was also due to fly the lead glider at Nijmegen bridge, Staff Sergeant Jim Wallwork, and he was not looking forward to the job at all. When Comet was cancelled and upgraded to Market with the addition of the American divisions, 1st Allied Airborne Army took over the air plan and deleted the glider coup de main attacks, because of the Flak near the bridges. Wallwork was relieved he would no longer be doing it, but the decision was one of the many compromises made to Operation Market by Brereton and Williams at 1st AAA and US IX Troop Carrier Command respectively.
@@davemac1197 I wrote that two years ago, but I can see I haven't said the GPR deserve all the credit.
"The 82nd Airborne Division, however, certainly does not deserve any particular criticism for this as their priorities appear to be a further product of the blind optimism that dogged Operation Market Garden, of which everyone involved was guilty. At Nijmegen, as with everywhere else, the assumption was that resistance would be light and so the main concern of the airborne units was to make the advance of the ground forces as rapid and as uncomplicated as possible, instead of devoting all their attention to primary objectives. Furthermore, it should be understood that the 82nd Airborne Division had by far the most complicated plan of any of the Airborne units involved with Market Garden, their troops being required to capture numerous objectives over a considerable expanse of terrain."
Pegasus Archive In Depth 30. Reasons for the Failure page
Opinion.
@@thevillaaston7811 - also ignores the fact that the 82nd had a completely free hand in Nijmegen for the vital first few hours and failed to take advantage of it. The "regiment of SS" troops Gavin was told might be in Nijmegen was the 'sanitised' information from Ultra that the 10.SS-Panzer-Division (reduced to a regimental battlegroup in Normandy) was in the eastern Netherlands, but their exact location was unknown. In the event it was actually a greater threat to 1st Airborne, because II./SS-Panzer-Regiment 10 (aka Kampfgruppe Reinhold) based at Vorden needed the Arnhem bridge to get to Nijmegen, but in spite of that the 1st Parachute Brigade seized the Arnhem bridge and denied its use to the enemy for 80 hours.
Monty doesn't show up as the plan comes apart and Carrington stops 8 miles away. But in Britain they'll give you lofty titles like Field Marshall and LORD ,can't make that shyt up. Carrington and Guards Armor stopped in Lent and stayed there for 18 hours . The Germans,Irish Guards and GIs ALL recorded this - you may now return to your Britsh Mythology
@@davemac1197 Why did it take 1st AB four hours to go 4 miles/6k from LZ Z to the rail bridge only to get there in time to see it blown up?
@@nickdanger3802 - six hours?
The 2nd Parachute Battalion dropped at 1445, left the DZ at 1500, reached Oosterbeck Laag by around 1730, from where C Company began its attack on the rail bridge. The bridge was blown at approximately 1800 by a Sprengkommando that had been stationed there for months and was blown with a platoon from C Company actually on the bridge.
My grandfather was 17 years old and living in Nijmegen during market garden, sadly he passed away before i was born. I would have loved to hear his story’s
The p and s are silent. Pronounced Kor, not corpse.
Operation Market Garden
haha
tf2
The whole plan was screwed. As you had to take the port at Antwerp. Which is open canal areas. And the Germans punished your ass for trying an Amphibious assault to take it! So without the port. Resupply is non existent...
Master Chief 00117
Antwerp was not a part of Market Garden.
The idea of Monty in charge of an operation,filled the Allies with almost unspeakable terror.And the Krauts with incredible Joy
Gee, thanks Montgomery
You mean for taking the allies to the end of the Siegfried Line?..
And of course, for hindering the lauch of V Weapons against British civilians. Also for liberating thousands of Dutch people.
Yoi might wish to thank Bradley for Aachen, Metz and the Hurtgen Forest...
Didn't liberate shit and the Dutch suffered thru thr Honger Winter thanx to you pathetic hero's shot at glory he was a bigger dick than you
HeavyMetalConspiracty
Big Woody also goes by the name of Para Dave and claims to have been to Sandhurst.
Which Sandhurst no one knows.
Smashing riposte Little Villa - I left a link last month on the Monty interview board to Dave's thread where he thrashed you in the form of Cornhole.Go have at or in your case like Carrington do nothing at all
You just summed up a 3 hour movie (A bridge too far) in 7 minutes and saved me a boat load of time.
Watch the movie. It's good and has a lot of famous actors
The movie is so authentic that Montgomery didn't appear in it either
The problem was that nobody believed what the Dutch resistance said, do not attempt, 2 German 🇩🇪 SS Battalions are here re-fitting!
Its raining man amen
The plan was perfect but the execution fail. They did not utilize perfectly there airpower. No artillery and air support available on the main bridge. Supply was poor mostly landed on german hands.
If Patton had 30 “corps” it would not have taken 9 frigging days to reach Arnhem
4 full years and Britain didn't come across a 30 mile wide channel,WTF - 4FULL YEARS!!!.Ya run away to a desert 3000 miles way.BRILLIANT - said no one ever.The Brits never got tossed into the channel again after the Yanks arrived - imagine that
@John Cornell
More silly nonsense from Para Dave.
Little Villa for 4 full years the German Army sat 30 miles off of your shores. So Monty runs away to an out of the way post 3,000 miles away at least the Navy and Air Corp pounded a German Army pretty much out of everything.Go tell your heroism to the rest of Europe specially the Czechs
@John Cornell
The US took three and a half years to join in with Britain's invasion of Western Europe in 1944. Despite the nearest German soldier being 3,000 from offering any threat to their shores. No enemy warplane ever entered US air space. during the war. Then when it happened Britain supplies over half of the aircraft, two-fifths of the shipping and four fifths of warships.
Care to guess how the USA might have got on if they had decided to invade Europe on their own?
6,000 ships, two artificial harbours, and several fuel pipelines to be taken cross the Atlantic. No Ultra intercepts. 20% of the Warships used on D-Day. Aircraft having to cross the Atlantic. Greenhorn commanders in charge.
Even when they landed in North Africa in late 1942 they were only up against the Vichy French.
There was of course the lunatic plan by the armchair general - Marshall to invade France in 1942. Shall we remind ourselves of what Churchill had to say about this idea? Yea, lets:
Former Naval Person to President 8 July 42
‘No responsible British general, admiral, or air marshal is prepared to recommend “Sledgehammer” as a practical operation in 1942. The Chiefs of Staff have reported “The conditions which would make “Sledgehammer” a sound, sensible enterprise are very unlikely to occur. They are now sending their paper to your Chiefs of Staff.’
Any idea who Para Dave means to call 'Shit stain'?
@John Cornell
That last comment from Para Dave smacked of desperation.
To all those obsessed with corps vs corpse, may I point out that English is one screwed-up language? Can you pronounce the following pairs of words: wind wind; wound wound; read read; bow bow; tear tear; lead lead; bass bass, and etc.? Both the sound and the meaning are different. It makes no sense; or is it since? And I'll admit, Americans have their (they're, there) fair (fare) share of problems with it, and I'm one of them.
1:22 Even IF Market Garden had had no opposition, the supply line to Normandy was too long.
There was no way to exploit the breakthru without supplies coming in thru Antwerp.
Market Garden = Barbarossa
Same wishful thinking "if you kick the door the building will come crashing down"
"There was no way to exploit the breakthru without supplies coming in thru Antwerp." - That's why the exploitation was to take place after Antwerp was opened. EIsenhower's strategy was for all armies to advance to the Rhine and establish multiple crossings, and then advance into Germany after Antwerp was open. MARKET GARDEN was British 2nd Army's advance to the Rhine and only supposed to go as far as the Zuider Zee (Ijsselmeer) coast and establish bridgeheads on the river Ijssel - the last Rhine delta distributary before the German border. Montgomery had planned for Canadian 1st Army to clear the Scheldt estuary to open Antwerp as the next 21st Army Group operation and were repositioning themselves around Antwerp during MARKET GARDEN in preparation for this.
@@davemac1197 From Imperial War Museum
"Field Marshal Montgomery believed that the Allies should employ one bold stroke to shorten the war. His plan, Operation Market Garden, would put the Allies across the Rhine on Germany's frontier in a few days and possibly end the war by Christmas 1944."
Montgomery sold Market Garden as "solution" to NOT having Antwerp open. His pitch was that a "bold" stroke would end the war quickly and reach Berlin WITHOUT large logistics support.
Montgomery (later, after the failure) retconned his participation in the plans and fudged the objectives.
Market Garden was poorly executed, yes. But it was fundamentally flawed in the premise that they could finish the war it WITHIN the constraints of lacking a suitable port.
Respectfully.
@@ricardokowalski1579 - with respect, this is the same problem as the Cornelius Ryan narrative, first established in his book A Bridge Too Far (1974), and followed by many historians since, until the more recent second cut at history challenged that narrative in the 2010s with authors like Dutch researcher Rick Poulussen (Lost at Nijmegen, 2011 and Little Sense or Urgency, 2014) and Swedish historian Christer Bergström (Arnhem 1944 - An Epic Battle Revisited vols 1 and 2, 2019-2020). The IWM's website is out of date and has, like Cornelius Ryan, conflated the three items on the agenda of Montgomery and Eisenhower's 10 September meeting into one discussion - Logistics - Strategy - Current Operations.
After first discussing the logistics situation, the meeting turned to the difference of opinion they had in strategy, namely Montgomery's single thrust idea of a strong force of 40 divisions (including US 1st Army) driving to Berlin to end the war, versus Eisenhower's broad front strategy of all armies advancing into Germany on a broad front after making multiple Rhine crossings. This argument had been going on in their correspondence for weeks and came to a head during this meeting, in which Montgomery pushed as far as he could and Eisenhower finally shut it down, and the broad front was to be the decided policy with no further argument.
The meeting then turned to current operations, and it was only then that Montgomery presented his proposal for operation SIXTEEN (it had not received the final code name MARKET yet) as an upgraded replacement for operation COMET that he had cancelled only that morning (at 0200 hours as men were loading their aircraft). Since the expanded operation involved adding the two American airborne divisions to allow the British and Poles to concentrate at Arnhem (COMET had them split between Arnhem-Nijmegen-Grave) to deal with the increased intelligence threat of German armour, Montgomery needed Eisenhower's approval, which he enthusiatically gave. This operation had nothing to do with Montgomery's single thrust to Berlin proposition, it was a limited advance to the Dutch Rijn (Rhine delta) in the Netherlands. Eisenhower backed this operation because it fitted in with his broad front policy - he wanted all of his armies to advance to the Rhine and establish crossings - and he was also under pressure to show what the 1st Allied Airborne Army could do, and SIXTEEN presented an opportunity to use virtually all of its assets.
The Ruhr pincer was the exploitation idea that won out in the strategy argument, and Montgomery and Eisenhower were still corresponding on this during the next weeks while MARKET GARDEN was being planned and executed, because the pre-requisites were that British 2nd Army would need to be positioned on their river Ijssel bridgeheads in the Netherlands (the Ijssel is the last Rijn delta distributary in the Netherlands before the German border) and US 1st Army in a bridgehead on the German Rhine between Cologne and Bonn. I don't believe anybody was under the illusions that any advances into Germany were possible without a major port open, such as Antwerp, and Montgomery envisaged 1st Canadian Army conducting the Scheldt clearance operations after MARKET GARDEN had concluded while US 1st Army cleared Aachen and advanced to the Rhine. Without the port open to supply all armies for simultaneous operations, Montgomery's 21st Army Group would have to strike first with the right (British 2nd Army for the Rhine) and then the left (Canadian 1st Army to clear the Scheldt), and he was arguing that Bradley would have to halt and all supplied prioritised to him, and even after this Bradley would have to stop Patton in order to supply Hodges to the Rhine north of Bonn.
I'm sure if you think about it, it will make sense, because a British 2nd Army advance to the Rhine was going to happen in some form regardless of what kind of advance(s) were made into Germany subsequently, so COMET or MARKET GARDEN were irrelevent to the subsequent strategy for Germany except as a pre-requisite to establish the necessary bridgeheads for either the Berlin thrust or Ruhr pincer. Bringing Antwerp into a discussion on MARKET GARDEN is therefore a distraction, the only issue is a sequencing issue while logistics limited operations to either clear Antwerp first or cross the Rhine first. The Rhine made more immediate sense, because opening Antwerp was already proving to be difficult (Brereton had refused Montgomery an airborne operation on Walcheren) and delaying a Rhine crossing until later after the Germans had more time to establish their river and canal defence lines would only make that operation more costly. The right time to strike for the Rhine was as soon as possible, and COMET was delayed two days by weather and then cancelled because of the worsening intelligence picture, leading to another week's delay for planning MARKET.
Even Eisenhower understood the logic of Rhine crossing first and delaying Antwerp until later (the Canadians needed time to reposition around Antwerp anyway), and even felt that he had to set the record straight after Cornelius Ryan's misleading book was published:
Eisenhower was similarly unapologetic when he declared after the publication of Cornelius Ryan's best-selling account, A Bridge Too Far, “I not only approved Market-Garden, I insisted upon it. We needed a bridgehead over the Rhine. If that could be accomplished I was quite willing to wait on all other operations.” (Eisenhower: A Soldier's Life, Carlo D'Este, 2015)
If you really want to get into the weeds, Montgomery's memoirs are available online and Chapter 15 on Allied Strategy North of the Seine shows the correspondence back and forth between Montgomery and Eisenhower. You don't have to agree with Montgomery's views or opinions (although memoirs are written in retrospect they are a primary source) and you can ignore his post-war writing if you wish, but the correspondence is a matter of contemporary record and these communications thrashed out their exchange of views at the time. I'm afraid Ryan was a newspaper journalist and did that thing most journalists do in that they stop digging when they have got their 'story' and anyone reading his book would think Eisenhower agreed to MARKET GARDEN as a consolation for losing his single thrust to Berlin argument - the two are not connected in that way.
MARKET GARDEN was not a solution to the problem of not having Antwerp open, it was done first because a Rhine crossing was simply more time sensitive than Antwerp. MARKET GARDEN was actually the solution to the problem of COMET being too weak to deal with the presence of II.SS-Panzerkorps in the Netherlands. The operation failed because a bridge was missed at Nijmegen on D-Day and not because Antwerp wasn't open or even because of the II.SS-Panzerkorps.
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In fact by 10 September Monty had discarded any notion of getting to Berlin in the immediate future. As he said after the war to Chester Wilmot:
I knew now [the time of Eisenhower’s visit on 10 September 1944] that we could not hope to get much more than a bridgehead beyond the Rhine before Winter, and be nicely poised for breaking out in the New Year. By the time MARKET GARDEN was undertaken [The revised airdrop on Arnhem] its significance was more tactical than strategic.
‘Monty’s statement is supported by the evidence of Tedder himself, when interviewed just after the war by the American Official Historian, Dr Pogue:
Monty had no idea of going to Berlin from here [Arnhem]. By this time he was ready to settle for a position across the Rhine.
In a signal to the British Chief of Air Staff (Air-Marshall Portal) immediately after 10 September meeting, Tedder stated that the advance to Berlin was not discussed as a serious issue.
CRUSADE IN EUROPE
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WILLIAM HEINEMANN LIMITED 1948
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‘At the September 10 conference in Brussels Field-Marshall Montgomery was therefore authorised to defer the clearing out of the Antwerp approaches in an effort to seize the Bridgehead [Across the Rhine] I wanted.'
I had to dislike this video - everything was done well - but like tpsu129 stated...the freaking mispronouncing of Corps is just so fucking grating on my nerves.
After seeing and talking to my dad the operation was a genius in thought, but in practical sense a disaster. Ninety two percent of his company were killed. The weather was against them, the roads were way to narrow and one tank would have stopped the whole operation when it clogged the road. Supplies were missed as the British were out of ammo and the Germans were luck to get it and other things. Yes, the plan was a genius thought and may have worked but it diden't and my family paid for it in death and others lost so many many people. War is shit.
Vaughn Rice
Total tripe. Market Garden failed to be a 100% success by a whisker. *The failure point was the US 82nd not seizing the Nijmegen bridge immediately.* At the end of the 1st day all bridge were denied to the Germans, except one, the Nijmegen bridge. That was down to General Gavin. XX Corps never put a foot wrong and even seized the Nijmegen bridge which the 82nd should have done.
browning made grossbeck heights priority for the 82nd...even john frost didnt blame the 82nd he blamed boy browning
will B
*You are a complete idiot.*
Actually the polish leadership spotted the SS tank units on recon photos and pointed that fact out to the British planners who were too arrogant apparently to listen. The plan was flawed from the start. Expecting airborne units to withstand inevitable counter attacks from those SS armor units for long is lunacy.
John Q
Utter crap. First Allied airborne army, led by the US General Brereton assessed intelligence information. The Poles receiced the inso along with everyone else.
I was lucky enough to visit the area. It is a very special place to visit and the Museum is amazing.
XXX Corps (Pronounced Core)
Fartimus Bumworthy this is why i hate English sometimes
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Hi Tarelom, I used Mapbox. They have nice map design webapp and some really cool pre-made styles: www.mapbox.com/gallery/. If you use the print option you can export the map as a jpg or png in high res.
Planning "The essential plan (Comet) was not dead, however, and on the 10th September 1944, Montgomery personally briefed Browning for Operation Market Garden." "Browning, having asked Montgomery how long the 1st Airborne would have to hold Arnhem and being told two days, replied that they could hold it for four."
Pegasus Archive Browning, on line
Of the over 2,000 men tasked with taking all three bridges only 740 men captured one end of a lightly defended bridge in Arnhem and held it for 3 days and 12 hours.
'Of the over 2,000 men tasked with taking all three bridges only 740 men captured one end of a lightly defended bridge in Arnhem and held it for 3 days and 12 hours.'
Perhaps if US General Brereton had arranged for more of those men to be landed closer to those bridges, and sooner, things might have been different. Who can say?..
The point of Market Garden was to cut off the 15th Army that had control of the Antwerp approaches
THIS VIDEO REMIND ME ABOUT THE MOVIE " A BRIDGE TOO FAR".
I watched that move 1 hour agi wtf
And yeah the movie is about this operation
Garcia Jessica Thomas Linda Thompson Paul
A good and informative video of a hard-fought battle that didn't go so well for the allies.
30th Corpse? Didn't know this was narrated by Obama...
Watching from NW AR, hoping we get lucky.
allied soldiers:The bridge is damn too far
Market Garden was mostly successful!
MORE BULLSHIT,didn't knock out any Rocket sites and that was the excuse for stopping 3rd Army and allocating provisions to the Mongoloid.11000 go inti Arnhem and 2100 come out.Not to mention the mayhem to the rest of the 34,000 troops involved in theis debacle. As retribution the NAZI's stripped the country bare and lead to 21,000 Dutch civilians starving over winter - it's a damn shame you couldn't have been one of them Cornhole
@John Cornell
'21,000 Dutch civilians starving over winter - it's a damn shame you couldn't have been one of them Cornhole'
You are not alone... He wishes that I would get the Coronavirus.
Don't care what you read - I present facts from actual historians and not your pathetic backside
*Max Hastings,Armageddon:The Battle for Germany,1944-45* Freddie de Guingand Monty's Chief of Staff telephoned him saying the operation would be launched too late to exploit German disarray.That XXX Corps push to Arnhem would being made on a narrow front along one road,Monty ignored him
*The Second World War by John Keegan,page 437* The Plan was the most calamitous flaw in the post Normandy campaign .It was more over barely excusable,since Ultra was supplying Montgomery's HQs from Sept 5 onward with intelligence .As early as Sept 12 Monty's own intelligence reported the Germans intended to hold out along the approaches to Antwerp. Monty - despite every warning and contrary to common military sense - refused to turn his troops back in their tracks to clear the Scheldt Estuary.
*Max Hastings,Armageddon:The Battle for Germany,1944-45* The release of the files from German Signals by Bletchley Park conclusively showed that the 9th & 10th Panzer Divisions were re-fitting in the Arnhem area.With their Recon Battalions intact.Yet when Bedell-Smith(SHAEF) brought this to Monty's attention "he ridiculed the idea and waved my objections airly aside"
This from the BBC
*www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/battle_arnhem_01.shtml* At the end of the first day, XXX corps had advanced only seven miles from their start line, and had not reached the first in the sequence of bridges. Meanwhile the Germans were reinforcing, and their tanks were moving into Arnhem ready to take on the lightly armed British paratroopers.
*From Retreat to the Reich by Samuel W.Mitcham Jr.,page 244* The US 82nd Airborne was also tied up in heavy fighting in Nijmegen against elements of the 9th SS Panzer Reconnaissance Battalion which was reinforced by I Battalion/22nd SS Panzer Grenadier Regiment(part of the 10th SS Division). Still the Allies might have won the Battle had the armored advance not been slow .By September 19th they were still miles south of Nijmegen trying to push an entire Corp down a single road.
*From September Hope,John C McManus,p.63*
General Browning cautioned General Gavin "Although every effort should be made to effect the capture of the Grave and Nijmagen Bridges,it is essential that you capture the Groesbeek ridge and hold it
@Dougal Harding
Market Garden was a success:
♦ It kept Antwerp out of German artillery range.
♦ It created a 60 mile buffer between Antwerp and German forces. Antwerp was the only port taken intact. This buffer proved itself in the German Bulge attack right through US lines. The German went through a forest rather than the direct route, which would have been through the Market Garden salient.
♦ It created a staging point to move into Germany at Nijmegen, which was used.
♦ It eliminated V rocket launching sites aimed at London.
♦ It isolated the German 15th army in Holland.
♦ They reached the Rhine.
♦ The salient was fleshed out to the Meuse.
♦ The Germans never retook one mm of ground taken.
♦ It captured the important Philips radio factory at Eindhoven.
All this while Patton was stalled at Metz moving 10 miles in three months against a 2nd rate German army. Also US forces were stopped before Aachen and eventually defeated at Hurtgen Forest - you know that engagement, the US historians and History channels ignore. To flesh out the salient the US 7th armor was sent into Overloon. They were so bad they were extracted with British forces sent in to take the town.
The Germans never thought Market Garden was a failure. It punched a 60 mile salient right into their lines in a few days, right on their border. They saw it as a staging area to jump into Germany - which it was. In late '44/early '45, the longest allied advance was the 60 mile Market Garden advance. The only operation to fully achieve its goals in that time period was Monty's clearing of the Scheldt.
You keep refuting yourself with the stupidity of your own statements.None of the objectives were met you knob
-Monty wasn't there to direct while an actual Field Marshall Model and Air Borne General Student were in fact conducting a clinic on effective modern mobile warfare
-The V-2s were still being launched
-The deep sea port of Antwerp was still closed that was needed for supplies
-Over 17,000 crack allied Paras were lost.
-The Dutch people suffered reprisals from the hunger winter in 22,000 of their citizens died of starvation and disease.
-Many young Dutchmen were sent to work as slave laborers in defense industry in the Reich
-Allies never made Arnhem much less Berlin as your hero bragged
-Monty would not cross the Rhine for 6 more months and that was with the help of Simpson 9th US Army
-Bernard,Prince of the Netherlands said later *"My country can never again afford the luxury of another Montgomery success"*
How come Model/Student were able to ferry tanks and troops over , under the ever watchfull RAF at Pannerden, and Monty/Horrocks could NOT do the same ? Not in September, not in October and not in November.
Seemed no one worried if traffic hit jammed or a bridge blown up before they got to it. Everything had to work or nothing worked
Really?..
You would think that anyone wanting to create a multi-media historical presentation like this would have the good sense to have at least ONE military veteran review the finished product so something as idiotic as pronouncing “corps” like the word “corpse” could be avoided. Unbelievable!
No wonder it failed, what good is a corpse gonna do?
Montgomery was a typical British commander. Second rate at best.
Still...at lrat he did not hit his own soldiers.
Ya but he lathered little Lucian - Pervo
The finest army in the world from mid 1942 onwards was the British under Montgomery. From Alem el Halfa it moved right up into Denmark, through nine countries, and not once suffered a reverse taking all in its path. Over 90% of German armour in the west was destroyed by the British. Montgomery, in command of all ground forces, had to give the US armies an infantry role in Normandy as they were not equipped to engage massed German SS armour.
*Montgomery* stopped the Germans in every event they attacked him:
♦ August 1942 - Alem el Halfa;
♦ October 1942 - El Alamein;
♦ March 1943 - Medenine;
♦ June 1944 - Normandy;
♦ Sept/Oct 1944 - The Netherlands;
♦ December 1944 - Battle of the Bulge;
*A list of Montgomery’s victories in WW2:*
♦ Battle of Alam Halfa;
♦ Second Battle of El Alamein;
♦ Battle of El Agheila;
♦ Battle of Medenine;
♦ Battle of the Mareth Line;
♦ Battle of Wadi Akarit;
♦ Allied invasion of Sicily;
♦ Operation Overlord - the largest amphibious invasion in history;
Market Garden - a 60 mile salient created into German territory;
Battle of the Bulge - while taking control of two shambolic US armies;
♦ Operation Veritable;
♦ Operation Plunder.
*Montgomery not once had a reverse.*
*Not on one occasion were ground armies, British, US or others, under Monty's command pushed back into a retreat by the Germans.* Monty's 8th Army advanced the fastest of any army in WW2. From El Alamein to El Agheila from the 4th to 23rd November 1942, 1,300 km in just 17 days. After fighting a major exhausting battle at El Alemein through half a million mines. This was an Incredible feat, unparalleled in WW2. With El Alamein costing just 13,500 casualties.
The US Army were a shambles in 1944/45 retreating in the Ardennes. The Americans didn't perform well at all east of Aachen, then the Hurtgen Forest defeat with 33,000 casualties and Patton's Lorraine crawl of 10 miles in three months at Metz with over 50,000 casualties, with the Lorraine campaign being a failure. Then Montgomery had to be put in command of the shambolic US First and Ninth armies, aided by the British 21st Army Group, just to get back to the start line in the Ardennes, with nearly 100,000 US casualties. Hodges, head of the US First army, fled from Spa to near Liege on the 18th, despite the Germans never getting anywhere near to Spa. Hodges did not even wait for the Germans to approach Spa. He had already fled long before the Germans were stopped. The Germans took 20,000 US POWs in the Battle of The Bulge in Dec 1944. No other allied country had that many prisoners taken in the 1944-45 timeframe.
The USA retreat at the Bulge, again, was the only allied army to be pushed back into a retreat in the 1944-45 timeframe. Montgomery was effectively in charge of the Bulge having to take control of the US First and Ninth armies. Coningham of the RAF was put in command of USAAF elements. The US Third Army constantly stalled after coming up from the south. The Ninth stayed under Monty's control until the end of the war just about. The US armies were losing men at unsustainable rates due to poor generalship.
Normandy was planned and commanded by the British, with Montgomery involved in planning, with also Montgomery leading *all* ground forces, which was a great success coming in ahead of schedule and with less casualties than predicted. The Royal Navy was in command of all naval forces and the RAF all air forces. The German armour in the west was wiped out by primarily the British - the US forces were impotent against massed panzers. Monty assessed the US armies (he was in charge of them) giving them a supporting infantry role, as they were just not equipped, or experienced, to fight concentrated tank v tank battles. On 3 Sept 1944 when Eisenhower took over overall allied command of ground forces everything went at a snail's pace. The fastest advance of any western army in Autumn/early 1945 was the 60 mile thrust by the British XXX Corps to the Rhine at Arnhem.
*You need to give respect where it is due.*
Outside of your posts being totally full of shit,they're not that bad - well yes they are. Market Garden is what happens when a moron in the form of Monty is handed command .SHAEF finally realized giving good troops to Monty was making Russian generals look like humanitarians.Attacking up a 64 mile lane with no room for maneuver and winter closing in is the idea of an idiot that had no business leading a boy scout assembly.Your distortions are ludicrous postmortem to absolve the abrasive egomaniac who in any other army would have been relieved .
And if it wasn't for the sorry fact the British Press propped him up beyond his accomplishments & abilities he would have been.Monty won in the desert when he had an embarrassment of Riches.Not because of maneuver,guile or tactics
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Johnny is a sick juvenile who has made up other accounts to agree with himself
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TheVilla Aston joined 20 Nov 2013
What do you mean typical Mike? Are you going to ignore Bill Slim, Richard O Connor and Auchinleck who were successful?
This is a well thought out and well executed video. I genuinely loved watching it. However, Corps is pronounced as Core. I know that is a minor and insignificant item, but it was something that each time you said it just threw me off. It was as you were calling them Corpse. Other than that, I look forward to more videos from this channel. Very nicely done!
I've been to Nijmegan by the way it's written Corps , but pronuced Cor . My Late Fatherand Grandfather, where ex Royal Engineers both Majors retd. ,
Can' believe I'm the first subscriber! Great video!
But seriously, when's the next video? 😳
So across to Arnhem in 48 hours. 😒
Just one video?
Ikr, I subbed, looked at the channel was disappointed to unsub... Beautiful title, channel art, and animation looked like it had been done by an experienced team. Guess not.
British 30th “corpse”?
How do u make history vids and not know the right pronunciation?
*earrape soldier noises*
Don't pronounce the p in corps
Please do Operation Barbarossa
Corps is pronounced core