ksltv.com/4373... Two children hiking in of Utah’s most popular slot canyons were killed after a sudden storm caused flash flooding, washing the girls away.
I've been to that canyon, hiked on that trail. It is beautiful and fascinating. I'm glad I went, but I can't say I will ever feel completely relaxed in a slot canyon, even on a sunny day.
Just went today! I would say it was beautiful and I was relaxed but at the way end we got a weather report about rain 20 miles away and then got a flash flood emergency on our phone. I can tell you we high tailed it out of the slot canyon. It was so pretty though!
@@jackpaitich1682 Too close for comfort! I'm glad all went ok for you, and I do hope to go there again one day! I'm from the East, so the way flash floods work out West is fascinating and terrifying and something I have very little experience with. I take those warnings super seriously, and of course don't know exactly how to read the weather patterns like I do at home, which is why I am a little on edge when hiking a trail like Little Wild Horse!
I read a story, possibly reddit but can't say for sure. The 'teller' was experienced, had gone into slots before. The day he and his buddy went the chance of t storms was low, wasn't quite the season and the chance was under 10% so they went. And like this unexpected, they heard the thunder, saw the light darken. They were in a bad section for refuge; but they had passed a safer area not long before so they booked back to that place. The water was already rising but they managed to climb up and away. Even the most experienced can sometimes be caught despite being on guard
here's an exercise. go on g maps and pick a slot canyon that you might "hike"..and then follow the water's path up into the mountains. then measure just how far away the mountain range is from your canyon. then consider that orographic lift in the mountains will usually create an environment where t-storms can form, usually at a certain time of day + by season. people forget that it's not about whether it's raining on YOU. it's about whether it's raining anywhere from here to the mountain runoff path. that's a lot of ground to be aware of. you REALLY have to go with someone who knows meteorology and the local weather systems.
As beautiful as Utah is and it is magnificent, when it rains bad things can happen and happen quickly. In 2015 a flash flood in southern Utah killed 21 people in a single day -- 8 of them in a slot canyon in Zion NP.
I really hate that happened to those kids . I lost one of my classmates to a flooded spillway when I was in second grade . I think about him from time to time. Over the years a few people I knew have drowned . One crossed a swollen river one night while hunting by himself . He was never found . Two brothers dove from a boat they rented and the current swiftly took there lives . Only the kids were left on the boat . That was a very sad day . Again to friends of mine were fishing one morning on a boat and failed to come back . Found them the next day . If you are a hiker of these low places include a flotation device in your pack .
Sadly flotation devices will probably not help you in a slot canyon, as they won't protect you from debris or being slammed against the rocks by the force of the water :-(
Would you go into a blow hole during low tide if tide was dependent on a huge drainage basin and you did not check the forecast for the entire drainage basin? Seems a dumb risk.
Why was there mention of the two young hikers in that canyon by themselves? Since do a 7 and a 3 year old go hiking in a canyon by themselves?? This is a glaring omission from this report which may be partly due to the edit. If that was the case the editor of this video was incompetent.
I’m more than willing to bet that the parents were doing their best and despite that the children were swept away. No parent who goes hiking just lets their kids disappear into a narrow canyon.
Naïve and devastated parents, that's who allowed this to happen. This reminds me of a family who nearly died not far from where I live. It happened several years ago when the father followed a mapping program, driving his family deep into the woods, in a snow storm, in the middle of winter. He was terribly naïve and ultimately died as a result. Somehow his family was rescued. The locals that heard the story couldn't believe that a husband and father would be so careless. But the guy simply had no knowledge or understanding of the dangers of cold weather. He came from a warm climate to the South. It just goes to show that there are a lot of people that do not respect the power of nature and do not understand their own fragile existence.
They were showing that what you wear should be taken into account, they showed it during the time they were talking about what he takes with him when he goes hiking... :)
2 hikers , a 3 year old and 7 year old died ? Oh what a shame didnt anyone advise them no to make THAT DRIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE ?? why do you report as though they just threw their stuff in the car and went ? What moronic parents where asleep at the wheel making sure they were safe ?
Weird, the video was put out 1 year ago. And yet..... here you are. Watching. Seems like the video is just fine. But your soft feelings, a bit concerning.
That "ankle deep" water can sweep you off your feet and down the canyon in a second, it's flowing so fast. And when you're in the slots, the same amount of water is forced into a channel that is maybe just a couple of feet wide, so it then becomes 5, 10, 15 feet high (or more). That's why slot canyons are so dangerous. These folks had made it back OUT of the slots and into the wider canyon, which is why the water wasn't as deep. Search for the video of Antelope Canyon, where the water is flowing OVER the canyon, and the slots below are some 50-60 feet. If you get caught in the slots, there is absolutely nowhere to go, and the flood WILL sweep you away, with very faint chance of survival.
@@katietrotter9374 So true. Weather prediction has actually gotten much better over the years. So it is a sign of genuine ignorance when people make such a dismissive comment about weather prediction.
As Utah is increasing overrun by people driven by over population and the internet not only will more people die, but these places will be ruined. It’s now lose lose all the way around.
I discovered Southern Utah in 1980 and fell in love with the area and because I was self-employed I was able to vacation there a couple times a year for almost two decades. I love nothing better than hiking the Red Rock country but it was very different back then. My first place I ever went to was the Needles District and boy was it primitive; it still actually is compared to other places in Canyonlands. But at the time the Visitor Center, if you want to call it that, was a single wide trailer with no air conditioning. The rest of the campground at the Needles is still pretty much undeveloped last I checked, I quit going around 2,006. I climbed Angels Landing for the first time in '82 and there were four other people at the top. Now there's dozens upon dozens at the top. And the line at the base of the final was sent sometimes has 100 people, it looks like Everest it's so overrun with people the first three times I climbed Angels Landing which was all in the early 80s, I seldom met another soul going up. I don't even go there anymore, it's so depressing because of the crowds.
@@Smedley1947 Like all of Utah, it’s gone forever. The west and especially Utah, has changed more in the last 30 years than the previous 100 and it’s accelerating. And it’s all due to the hordes trying to get away from our failing coasts and cities. As Ed abbey said, unlimited population growth and development in a finite are the surest way to the destruction of everything that is wild or beautiful or free. Utah went from 1.4 million in 1980 (when it was already over populated) to 3.5 million today. At the same time the US went from 225 million to 335 million and it didn’t get a sf bigger. The planet went from an astonishing 4.4 billion to an unbelievable 8 billion. This is why the idiot Biden can pass all the ridiculous bills he wants and we won’t make any sustainable progress on climate change. Like all our environmental problems it is caused by over population not a lack of EVs or solar panels.
@@kevvopeel9753 You obviously know absolutely nothing about slot canyons. But yes, you go ahead and stay away. Some are starting to get crowded. Of course the best ones most people don't know about.
Our true history has been lost to comet impacts. We keep getting amnesia over and over again. Imagine how grand our true history is, and where we actually came from. Imagine all the other humanoids we shared a civilization with, in times forgotten. ...All wiped from memory by a few comet impacts. I see why the rich build underground cities, now.
What humanoids are you talking about which you say as though you are some sort of alien visitor? All other human species like Denisovans or Heidelbergensus died out in the last couple 100,000 years. Only Homo sapiens survived to the present.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 so other hominid species and humans are not considered "humanoids" to you? Like Neanderthals, Denisovans(possibly just older version of humanity with longer life spans), "Paracas Skull" species, etc etc? Alrighty then. You should really do a LOT of studying outside of public schools if you want to talk to me about stuff like this, because I'm just going to chew everything you say up with proof and evidence and spit it back at you.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 the best part is, people like you who have only been on this planet for maybe 20 years at the most think they already know everything they need to know and have no imagination to lead to new discoveries and you all have a closed mind. Meanwhile people like Graham Hancock. Randall Carlson, and Brien Foerster are making breakthroughs because they do their OWN research, which mainstream history and learning and public schools REFUSE to show other people. It's quite awesome the level of sheer stupidity and arrogance humanity is on, this time around. Haha
@@johngallagher9151 That last comment begins with the most presumptuous statement you could make about me in which you say that people like me have only been on the planet for 20 years. You sound entirely too self-absorbed to continue this so called dialog. By the way I am 66 John boy.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 and that is why you dont accept new things. And also why you have to jump into an argument that has nothing to do with you. Was my reply to you? Go back and check. For me the reply does not have your name. Haha
I enjoy reading the comments. It reminds me that a good part of the population are just brainwashed idiots, sitting in front of their TVs waiting to be told what to think.
WOW! That was one humongous torrential rain. NOT! Haha. If that little flow scares ya or God forbit, keeps you stuck in one place for hours, you do not need to be outside, period.
You clearly have never hiked in Utah and been in a Slot Canyon. Do you even know what a Slot Canyon is? If the only thing you can stand on is the Sandy Bottom of a vertical sided Slot Canyon when 8 ft of water comes through at 40 mph, you would not be making that comment possibly because you didn't live to tell about it. The people in the video were lucky that there was a place where they could get up and away from the water. That's not the slot area. I suggest you go look at some more pictures of Slot Canyons. What you're seeing in the video is not the slot part of the canyon. It's probably a widening somewhere in the middle of the canyon.
I've been to that canyon, hiked on that trail. It is beautiful and fascinating. I'm glad I went, but I can't say I will ever feel completely relaxed in a slot canyon, even on a sunny day.
Just went today! I would say it was beautiful and I was relaxed but at the way end we got a weather report about rain 20 miles away and then got a flash flood emergency on our phone. I can tell you we high tailed it out of the slot canyon. It was so pretty though!
@@jackpaitich1682 Too close for comfort! I'm glad all went ok for you, and I do hope to go there again one day! I'm from the East, so the way flash floods work out West is fascinating and terrifying and something I have very little experience with. I take those warnings super seriously, and of course don't know exactly how to read the weather patterns like I do at home, which is why I am a little on edge when hiking a trail like Little Wild Horse!
I feel the same about the beach, but I still go lol
I’m fine to camp in there it’s not a big deal
I read a story, possibly reddit but can't say for sure. The 'teller' was experienced, had gone into slots before. The day he and his buddy went the chance of t storms was low, wasn't quite the season and the chance was under 10% so they went. And like this unexpected, they heard the thunder, saw the light darken. They were in a bad section for refuge; but they had passed a safer area not long before so they booked back to that place. The water was already rising but they managed to climb up and away. Even the most experienced can sometimes be caught despite being on guard
here's an exercise. go on g maps and pick a slot canyon that you might "hike"..and then follow the water's path up into the mountains. then measure just how far away the mountain range is from your canyon. then consider that orographic lift in the mountains will usually create an environment where t-storms can form, usually at a certain time of day + by season. people forget that it's not about whether it's raining on YOU. it's about whether it's raining anywhere from here to the mountain runoff path. that's a lot of ground to be aware of. you REALLY have to go with someone who knows meteorology and the local weather systems.
As beautiful as Utah is and it is magnificent, when it rains bad things can happen and happen quickly. In 2015 a flash flood in southern Utah killed 21 people in a single day -- 8 of them in a slot canyon in Zion NP.
I’ve hiked through this canyon…very pretty, not very long but any slot canyon is very dangerous if there’s any storms within 100 miles.
It will get longer as you get older!
My condolences to the families of those children killed.
Who are you?
May these children soul rest in peace.
Those canyons are no joke when it rains.😔
Thank you for the update, if you could increase the volume a little, t would be helpful.
A year old video.....
A 7 and 3-year-old, What were they doing alone in that place??
I really hate that happened to those kids . I lost one of my classmates to a flooded spillway when I was in second grade . I think about him from time to time. Over the years a few people I knew have drowned . One crossed a swollen river one night while hunting by himself . He was never found . Two brothers dove from a boat they rented and the current swiftly took there lives . Only the kids were left on the boat . That was a very sad day . Again to friends of mine were fishing one morning on a boat and failed to come back . Found them the next day . If you are a hiker of these low places include a flotation device in your pack .
Where do you live that people drown so frequently?
@@happykiwi this was over a 40 year span of time not overnight
Sadly flotation devices will probably not help you in a slot canyon, as they won't protect you from debris or being slammed against the rocks by the force of the water :-(
Flash floods are quick and lethal
One must get to higher ground always and sometimes in a slot canyon that might not be possible against rock face cliffs on each side
Would you go into a blow hole during low tide if tide was dependent on a huge drainage basin and you did not check the forecast for the entire drainage basin? Seems a dumb risk.
KSL engineers: You forgot your audio-level check on this one. Normalization needed.
Why was there mention of the two young hikers in that canyon by themselves? Since do a 7 and a 3 year old go hiking in a canyon by themselves??
This is a glaring omission from this report which may be partly due to the edit. If that was the case the editor of this video was incompetent.
A 7 year old is capable of walking
@@umlax45 But who allows a 7 and 3 year apparently unaccompanied to walk through a canyon?
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 : Probably the same parents that allow their children to watch TH-cam videos unaccompanied.
I’m more than willing to bet that the parents were doing their best and despite that the children were swept away. No parent who goes hiking just lets their kids disappear into a narrow canyon.
Naïve and devastated parents, that's who allowed this to happen.
This reminds me of a family who nearly died not far from where I live. It happened several years ago when the father followed a mapping program, driving his family deep into the woods, in a snow storm, in the middle of winter. He was terribly naïve and ultimately died as a result. Somehow his family was rescued. The locals that heard the story couldn't believe that a husband and father would be so careless. But the guy simply had no knowledge or understanding of the dangers of cold weather. He came from a warm climate to the South. It just goes to show that there are a lot of people that do not respect the power of nature and do not understand their own fragile existence.
went into that canyon in may (beginning) 2018 beautiful weather
Why did they show the tip of his shoe?
Salomon product placement? 🤷♂️
They were showing that what you wear should be taken into account, they showed it during the time they were talking about what he takes with him when he goes hiking... :)
Was at the Narrows....craziness I tell you!!!
Happened in a Flash! That's why they're called "Flash Floods"!
Looked like Down Town Tampa in late August.
At 2:01 you can see two people. Looks like children but hard to tell. Hope those two made it out.
Are you dent? Or just plain stupid? Those kids never made it, get your eyes fixed.
What the heck is wrong with this news channel ... I have the volume on my phone all the way up and it is hard to hear the newscaster
You can't believe it just happened? IT IS A WELL KNOWN OCCURRENCE IN THAT AREA! FLASH FLOODS ARE WHAT MAKES SLOT CANYONS!
That weather researcher needs to research how to video landscapes in landscape mode.
I think he had other things on his mind lol
You need a plan G for these flash floods
Same canyons 3 yrs later, two more young victims . Why????
RIP those parents must have been horrified. Water gives life but can certainly take it as well.
Turn the volume up
So sad to here this!
hear
@@mrfrogg46able lol stay triggered over a 1 year old comment. Idiots gunna idiot tho
@@mrfrogg46able so sad to see fucknuts like frog correcting people on how to use grammerlee prooperly. shut up frog, we can spell however we want to.
Hope for the Best,,Expect the Worse!! plan ahead for yourself,dont rely on anyone or the government to save you.
There was rain at the grand canyon yesterday
The ground is white with hail, how was a flash flood NOT going to happen?
Next time include an audio track with your video eh?
2 hikers , a 3 year old and 7 year old died ? Oh what a shame didnt anyone advise them no to make THAT DRIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE ?? why do you report as though they just threw their stuff in the car and went ? What moronic parents where asleep at the wheel making sure they were safe ?
Expect more.. poles are shifting and sun is on time for its moment in the limelight
Teach Mr. Gower how to properly shoot video on his phone, hold the phone the right way!
It's called vertical video syndrome
I think he had other things on his mind..
Weird, the video was put out 1 year ago. And yet..... here you are. Watching. Seems like the video is just fine. But your soft feelings, a bit concerning.
Please turn it up a bit. Old man
I was watching the canyon water flow why switch to the desk bound game show host
Is this how dreams are made?
I remember that when that happened
So little kids go hiking by themselves now? Oh yeah, some even walked through three countries to hike to the US by themselves.
What were the ages?
NOT filmed in a slot canyon . Click bait !
Um, I didnt see anything fill slot canyon. All I seen was an ankle deep minimal flow of water.
That "ankle deep" water can sweep you off your feet and down the canyon in a second, it's flowing so fast. And when you're in the slots, the same amount of water is forced into a channel that is maybe just a couple of feet wide, so it then becomes 5, 10, 15 feet high (or more). That's why slot canyons are so dangerous. These folks had made it back OUT of the slots and into the wider canyon, which is why the water wasn't as deep.
Search for the video of Antelope Canyon, where the water is flowing OVER the canyon, and the slots below are some 50-60 feet. If you get caught in the slots, there is absolutely nowhere to go, and the flood WILL sweep you away, with very faint chance of survival.
@@jamiegoodman8172 Completely besides my point......
Same story every year……
This is why you need to be prepared for this event and don't bring kids too mabe
Weather forecasters - can be wrong 100% of the time, and collect 100% of a paycheck!
You couldn’t name a single weather forecaster that is “wrong” 100% of the time. Not one.
@@katietrotter9374 So true. Weather prediction has actually gotten much better over the years. So it is a sign of genuine ignorance when people make such a dismissive comment about weather prediction.
Kinda like politicians, eh?
@@rollinmckim4719 At least the weather guessers are working! Not so much the politicians!
Got it, so never pay attention to the forecast and just do what you want without taking that into account ...
April May showers right.
Playing the slots...
You need to get out more. It's not a phenomenon.
Tasty Todd Taylor putting everything in perspective.
I’ve been there.
Yay for that elusive common sense!
I don't see the problem. For adults.
What????
Duh,you are in a slot canyon
As Utah is increasing overrun by people driven by over population and the internet not only will more people die, but these places will be ruined. It’s now lose lose all the way around.
So you're against illegal immigration and I can count on your vote for Trump in 2024.
I discovered Southern Utah in 1980 and fell in love with the area and because I was self-employed I was able to vacation there a couple times a year for almost two decades. I love nothing better than hiking the Red Rock country but it was very different back then. My first place I ever went to was the Needles District and boy was it primitive; it still actually is compared to other places in Canyonlands. But at the time the Visitor Center, if you want to call it that, was a single wide trailer with no air conditioning. The rest of the campground at the Needles is still pretty much undeveloped last I checked, I quit going around 2,006. I climbed Angels Landing for the first time in '82 and there were four other people at the top. Now there's dozens upon dozens at the top. And the line at the base of the final was sent sometimes has 100 people, it looks like Everest it's so overrun with people the first three times I climbed Angels Landing which was all in the early 80s, I seldom met another soul going up. I don't even go there anymore, it's so depressing because of the crowds.
@@Smedley1947
Like all of Utah, it’s gone forever. The west and especially Utah, has changed more in the last 30 years than the previous 100 and it’s accelerating. And it’s all due to the hordes trying to get away from our failing coasts and cities. As Ed abbey said, unlimited population growth and development in a finite are the surest way to the destruction of everything that is wild or beautiful or free. Utah went from 1.4 million in 1980 (when it was already over populated) to 3.5 million today. At the same time the US went from 225 million to 335 million and it didn’t get a sf bigger. The planet went from an astonishing 4.4 billion to an unbelievable 8 billion. This is why the idiot Biden can pass all the ridiculous bills he wants and we won’t make any sustainable progress on climate change. Like all our environmental problems it is caused by over population not a lack of EVs or solar panels.
Oh no don't get your feet wet
Hike.
Becky only had two daughters.... now she has no children remaining. T_T
The bigger question is why they hiking in the canyon by themselves!!
Probably humans should not enter slot canyons.
Ehhhhh ... That's a little neurotic. In the desert, the rain is too infrequent to need to completely avoid them.
“Monsoon” season only lasts like 2 months, so I don’t see why anyone should refrain
What's the point if going in them, then you take kids, stupid
Yes. Please stay out of slot canyons (more room for us). Or drive cars. Or use stairs.
@@kevvopeel9753 You obviously know absolutely nothing about slot canyons. But yes, you go ahead and stay away. Some are starting to get crowded. Of course the best ones most people don't know about.
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Our true history has been lost to comet impacts. We keep getting amnesia over and over again. Imagine how grand our true history is, and where we actually came from. Imagine all the other humanoids we shared a civilization with, in times forgotten.
...All wiped from memory by a few comet impacts.
I see why the rich build underground cities, now.
What humanoids are you talking about which you say as though you are some sort of alien visitor? All other human species like Denisovans or Heidelbergensus died out in the last couple 100,000 years. Only Homo sapiens survived to the present.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 so other hominid species and humans are not considered "humanoids" to you? Like Neanderthals, Denisovans(possibly just older version of humanity with longer life spans), "Paracas Skull" species, etc etc? Alrighty then. You should really do a LOT of studying outside of public schools if you want to talk to me about stuff like this, because I'm just going to chew everything you say up with proof and evidence and spit it back at you.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 the best part is, people like you who have only been on this planet for maybe 20 years at the most think they already know everything they need to know and have no imagination to lead to new discoveries and you all have a closed mind.
Meanwhile people like Graham Hancock. Randall Carlson, and Brien Foerster are making breakthroughs because they do their OWN research, which mainstream history and learning and public schools REFUSE to show other people. It's quite awesome the level of sheer stupidity and arrogance humanity is on, this time around. Haha
@@johngallagher9151 That last comment begins with the most presumptuous statement you could make about me in which you say that people like me have only been on the planet for 20 years.
You sound entirely too self-absorbed to continue this so called dialog.
By the way I am 66 John boy.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 and that is why you dont accept new things. And also why you have to jump into an argument that has nothing to do with you. Was my reply to you? Go back and check. For me the reply does not have your name. Haha
Global warming and things in weather are different now.
Oh BULL.
I enjoy reading the comments. It reminds me that a good part of the population are just brainwashed idiots, sitting in front of their TVs waiting to be told what to think.
It's not necessarily global warming but weather is more intense with more extremes because of human action for sure.
WOW! That was one humongous torrential rain. NOT! Haha. If that little flow scares ya or God forbit, keeps you stuck in one place for hours, you do not need to be outside, period.
You clearly have never hiked in Utah and been in a Slot Canyon. Do you even know what a Slot Canyon is? If the only thing you can stand on is the Sandy Bottom of a vertical sided Slot Canyon when 8 ft of water comes through at 40 mph, you would not be making that comment possibly because you didn't live to tell about it. The people in the video were lucky that there was a place where they could get up and away from the water. That's not the slot area. I suggest you go look at some more pictures of Slot Canyons. What you're seeing in the video is not the slot part of the canyon. It's probably a widening somewhere in the middle of the canyon.
bella smuts lol can i get her number?