When I was in college my roommate was a music major, full ride scholarship. He was an incredible piano player. He played at all kinds of school events including fundraisers. He also played at Carnegie Hall and did pay gigs all the time. Sold of ton of cd's to make some extra cash. Student athletes are literally the only members of a campus forbidden from making money on their talents. And it is because the NCAA and schools have no interest in sharing the vast amounts of profit they pull in. The NCAA as an entity made 1.18 billion in 2019. Most of that from the massive TV deals they have. And listening to coaches talk about amateurism when they make 5 mil a year to coach a sports team is total BS. It is a business for everyone but the players.
I agree with you. When I was at Stanford, I had friends who were engineering and computer science majors. They were permitted to make whatever they can especially with Silicon Valley Companies. I don't see why some well-known jock shouldn't be able to get an off campus job with PR, Marketing companies.
Not exactly - It's not "total BS" for coaches to talk about that: If a Coach makes $5 million per year - which compared with many NBA or NFL or MLB players is not THAT much, considering how much work a lot of those coaches have to do to be a "$5m" man or woman - they have a responsiblity to get players to play AS A TEAM. THat has become increasingly harder - since there are more Prima Donna's ... players who think they are entitled and super-special -..... they think they are above everyone else. Coach Geno talks about it with UCONN: He said "A lot of players their 1st week here at UCONN... they realize "Im not better than everyone else who's ever played here.... Then they get scared about it. Then they think "Well I'll show you how good I am .... I just won't listen to anything you say" COach Geno has seen this diva act year after year for over 30 years.... And the players are often ungrateful - especially now compared to 20 years ago - unappreciative of scholarship offers etc. Bc so many schools kiss their Butt. They feel like "I can go anywhere and I don't have to listen to you the coach. I'm the star player so YOU have to listen to what I want and think" It's a business for a lot of administrators - But for the COACHES who want to win CHAMPIONSHIPS, it's not just a business- it's about building a winning program, building a winning system, mutliple years of titles etc etc.
Now the colleges can just be open about how much they pay athletes behind closed doors to come to their school anyways. Sports are almost 50% of colleges income
If its amateur they shouldnt be charging people to watch making huge tv deals and marketing products. college sports are not amateur they are actually semi pro farming leagues to deny this is deceitful and disingenuous!
NCAA is a sweatshop. These kids get in there for the love of the game yes and HOPEFULLY an entry into the NBA but the rules are ridiculous. They shouldn't leave broke.
They are paid. Do you know how much it costs to go to a Penn State, Stanford, Michigan, etc? I think they should also be able to make money off of their image, but they don't have to be paid a salary.
You must have not listened to sports analyst like Colin Coward or Tim Tebow ... heck there definitely are haters out there who don't want to see the workers paid
Well it's about damn time!!!!! Shout out to Rich Paul, The G League, Zion Williamson, The Fab 5, LaMelo Ball & Brandon Jennings for applying pressure 💪🏾💯
I can't wait for the fallout of the top athletes on full rides already, pissing off their teammates because now they're more worried about their "Brand image" than putting in the work to win a championship for their school or teammates. If you want to "pay" athletes that's fine, then have them pay for their schooling out of it also. Have them sign up for one of 2 options. Full ride scholarship OR get paid for your likeness. Not both.
People actually believe the Supreme Court would waste their time listening and ruling on Roe vs Wade? This is America. They don't tell people what they can't do, they tell them what they can do. Our decisions about our own limitations is our problem.
How much is a 4 year education? Sounds like they are getting full salaries, just not in their pockets. If you want to pay them that money instead, fine, but then have them pay their own education out of it as well. And I did have 2 kids on scholarship so don't try to go down that road with me, I've lived it.
@@joshmcclain9684 That's part of the issue with this generation of kids. They all want the money without doing the work. If you're still in college you aren't doing the real life work yet. Do the work, get drafted, then get paid. If you do it right it will lead to a great life. But just showing up in college 99% of those kids aren't going to be the standout they were in high school. It's a ME attitude, nothing to do with team at all. That's another reason why coaches are making what they do, corralling a bunch of look at me kids and getting them to perform as a team. He/She is there to win games/championships not make sure his/her players have a "brand" to push.
@John Johnson How ridiculous that you feel that the coach and school can make hundreds of millions, while those that generate those millions should be content with an education worth less than 1% of the money generated.
@@bd0821 It seems to me that the schools and coaches are the ones making the money without the commensurate work. A school like Duke makes $500 million and pays the coach $10 million per year off of basketball, yet you say the players are the ones that want fast and easy money? You're twisted.
Players should not get compensated period! It creates a competitive disadvantage where some schools like Duke with hundreds of millions have more money to pay their players than say a smaller school like Creighton. Even if there is a salary cap it still does not work. Schools will also have to pay for all athletes, swimmers, soccer players, baseball players, etc. This is an enormous burden to the budgets of smaller schools and this idea should not be implemented at all. This is also unfair to the non athlete students who have to pay for their education while scholarship athletes who are already getting a free ride are now getting compensation. It cannot work. Athletes need to realize they will be compensated when they turn professional but money given to athletes in the college world.
100% agree. In fact, no one person in this recreational sports industry is worth 75 million. That’s just stupidity on the human race. They are not curing cancer or securing biosphere on mars.
They are getting paid, free tuition, free stipends, free tutoring, free food, free "fees"!!! I'm still paying for my student loans 12 years later!! This will ruin college sports, it will open massive corruption, it will be a nightmare for the universities to monitor it. "Come to our university, we have contacts to get you more money for......"
Well, does this mean athletes have to go to class and pass the same tests as others? Maybe tax payer sponsored State Schools should only allow residents athletic scholarships. If it really is a business relationship, why should non residents get a free ride?
As the father of a college student who has had to take out huge loans to get through school - this rankles me! Major college athletes already get FREE TUITION AND ROOM AND BOARD! THEY GET TO GRADUATE WITH NO DEBT!
Most those kids at your child’s school wouldn’t get academic scholarships without the money from the athletic programs. You are simply uneducated to what those athletes bring to the school.
@@VIi726 and your point is? Colleges will react to this, but maybe not in the way you hope; this really means the major schools will get ALL of the major talent, and everyone else will get none; who will want to go watch sports at those schools? so, many schools will drop sports, and the scholarships that non-athletes get from sports's revenue will go away; this ruling is NOT GOOD for fans, or students
@@VIi726 Many NCAA athletes are getting paid. It's called an Education, and it's expensive. I had 2 kids finish college on scholarships and both got their degrees. I can't wait for the fallout of the top athletes on full rides already, pissing off their teammates because now they're more worried about their "Brand image" than putting in the work to win a championship for their school or teammates. If you want to "pay" athletes that's fine, then have them pay for their schooling out of it also. Have them sign up for one of 2 options. Full ride scholarship OR get paid for your likeness. Not both. Welcome to the "LOOK AT ME!!!!" generation.
A multi-billionaire should make a create a league for top-tier college age kids, and have them play in the same cities and towns as the colleges. Maybe also offer college tuition, so those kids can attend the colleges in those cities and towns. you know, screw around with the NCAA create tension between the schools, and the NCAA.
What keeps a college's alumni from getting involved and start sending the players money that sign up with their college team? A college with a large and rich alumni could easily change the tide of college recruiting landscape. Take someone like Penn State that has the largest alumni of all universities. Can't they start buying a players merch, etc. and then that could be used for future recruits? ' Hey, MIke C. went to Penn State and made $50,000 their first year'
So what about all the schools like UM, USC and SMU that received heavy sanctions for the very same thing that is now legal? As much as I follow Coach Saban, I find it hard to believe student athletes are going just for a championship within 3 years.
I agree pay them, but with a twist, a lot of them would never be in college, except for sports, I think they should have to pay some money for tuition, food an lodging! Not get everything free, teach them how life really works!!
Many NCAA athletes are getting paid. It's called an Education, and it's expensive. I had 2 kids finish college on scholarships and both got their degrees. I can't wait for the fallout of the top athletes on full rides already, pissing off their teammates because now they're more worried about their "Brand image" than putting in the work to win a championship for their school or teammates. If you want to "pay" athletes that's fine, then have them pay for their schooling out of it also. Have them sign up for one of 2 options. Full ride scholarship OR get paid for your likeness. Not both. Welcome to the "LOOK AT ME!!!!" generation.
@@hermonymusofsparta name calling nice, but would expect it. How is not having to pay for school or getting free food not getting paid? I don't really think you have a leg to stand on unless you're in the game. I was and appreciated the fact that my kids were blessed to be provided those scholarships and the dollar amount it covered. You do realize that when they get paid it's only gonna be the top 1-2% who are really making anything and if you're that good, why are you in college? Good luck.
This topic is absurd! Is an average of a $50K education opportunity not "being paid"? How many of these athletes were awarded scholarships over academic performers, musicians, artists, etc! Listen to signing day interviews and try to convince me that some of these athletes would have been offered anything if not for their athleticism. I'm not a nerd nonathlete by the way. I worked hard to juggle both. It's a sad day that we will pay vast amounts of money to many to folks that have had easier paths than many academic achievers. How about paying true educators that kind of money or the 1% of us miltary that volunteered to protect our freedoms. True exploitation is having people being shot at for the small compensation we readily accepted. Welcome to the age of entitlement!
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When I was in college my roommate was a music major, full ride scholarship. He was an incredible piano player. He played at all kinds of school events including fundraisers. He also played at Carnegie Hall and did pay gigs all the time. Sold of ton of cd's to make some extra cash. Student athletes are literally the only members of a campus forbidden from making money on their talents. And it is because the NCAA and schools have no interest in sharing the vast amounts of profit they pull in. The NCAA as an entity made 1.18 billion in 2019. Most of that from the massive TV deals they have. And listening to coaches talk about amateurism when they make 5 mil a year to coach a sports team is total BS. It is a business for everyone but the players.
I agree with you. When I was at Stanford, I had friends who were engineering and computer science majors. They were permitted to make whatever they can especially with Silicon Valley Companies. I don't see why some well-known jock shouldn't be able to get an off campus job with PR, Marketing companies.
Not exactly - It's not "total BS" for coaches to talk about that:
If a Coach makes $5 million per year - which compared with many NBA or NFL or MLB players is not THAT much, considering how much work a lot of those coaches have to do to be a "$5m" man or woman - they have a responsiblity to get players to play AS A TEAM.
THat has become increasingly harder - since there are more Prima Donna's ... players who think they are entitled and super-special -..... they think they are above everyone else.
Coach Geno talks about it with UCONN: He said "A lot of players their 1st week here at UCONN... they realize "Im not better than everyone else who's ever played here....
Then they get scared about it. Then they think "Well I'll show you how good I am .... I just won't listen to anything you say"
COach Geno has seen this diva act year after year for over 30 years....
And the players are often ungrateful - especially now compared to 20 years ago - unappreciative of scholarship offers etc. Bc so many schools kiss their Butt. They feel like "I can go anywhere and I don't have to listen to you the coach. I'm the star player so YOU have to listen to what I want and think"
It's a business for a lot of administrators -
But for the COACHES who want to win CHAMPIONSHIPS, it's not just a business- it's about building a winning program, building a winning system, mutliple years of titles etc etc.
@@MrLarryLessor shut up and pay the players...
Now the colleges can just be open about how much they pay athletes behind closed doors to come to their school anyways. Sports are almost 50% of colleges income
Good, they should pay them behind closed doors if they aren't allowed to in the open!
@@LowTempDabr definitely
If its amateur they shouldnt be charging people to watch making huge tv deals and marketing products. college sports are not amateur they are actually semi pro farming leagues to deny this is deceitful and disingenuous!
NCAA is a sweatshop. These kids get in there for the love of the game yes and HOPEFULLY an entry into the NBA but the rules are ridiculous. They shouldn't leave broke.
They are paid. Do you know how much it costs to go to a Penn State, Stanford, Michigan, etc? I think they should also be able to make money off of their image, but they don't have to be paid a salary.
@@killmoreturtles Why don't you go a work for free?
i haven't heard a single college sport fan ever say athletes categorically should never be paid. Who they hell are those scammers talking to or about?
You must have not listened to sports analyst like Colin Coward or Tim Tebow ... heck there definitely are haters out there who don't want to see the workers paid
Let's face it, they did not go to college cause thier the smart kids, but rather based on thier sport talent
Well it's about damn time!!!!! Shout out to Rich Paul, The G League, Zion Williamson, The Fab 5, LaMelo Ball & Brandon Jennings for applying pressure 💪🏾💯
I can't wait for the fallout of the top athletes on full rides already, pissing off their teammates because now they're more worried about their "Brand image" than putting in the work to win a championship for their school or teammates. If you want to "pay" athletes that's fine, then have them pay for their schooling out of it also. Have them sign up for one of 2 options. Full ride scholarship OR get paid for your likeness. Not both.
and Ed O'Bannon of UCLA who was the first person to them to court
@@kaydee934 that's a fact I honestly forgot about that
Software Engineers student can Make Millions with Silicon Valley. But Student playing Sport are breaking the law if they get paid.
People actually believe the Supreme Court would waste their time listening and ruling on Roe vs Wade?
This is America.
They don't tell people what they can't do, they tell them what they can do. Our decisions about our own limitations is our problem.
It SHOULD be a precipice, NOT a slope! College players should be paid FULL salaries!!!
How much is a 4 year education? Sounds like they are getting full salaries, just not in their pockets. If you want to pay them that money instead, fine, but then have them pay their own education out of it as well. And I did have 2 kids on scholarship so don't try to go down that road with me, I've lived it.
@@bd0821 Way less than what they pay the coach! The players are the product. The players should make more than a coach!
@@joshmcclain9684 That's part of the issue with this generation of kids. They all want the money without doing the work. If you're still in college you aren't doing the real life work yet. Do the work, get drafted, then get paid. If you do it right it will lead to a great life. But just showing up in college 99% of those kids aren't going to be the standout they were in high school. It's a ME attitude, nothing to do with team at all. That's another reason why coaches are making what they do, corralling a bunch of look at me kids and getting them to perform as a team. He/She is there to win games/championships not make sure his/her players have a "brand" to push.
@John Johnson How ridiculous that you feel that the coach and school can make hundreds of millions, while those that generate those millions should be content with an education worth less than 1% of the money generated.
@@bd0821 It seems to me that the schools and coaches are the ones making the money without the commensurate work. A school like Duke makes $500 million and pays the coach $10 million per year off of basketball, yet you say the players are the ones that want fast and easy money? You're twisted.
Did guy just say “dominated by people of color”?
Constitutional conservatives are just liberals.
This case just proves my point.
At least they are promoted from sandwiches allowance into something meaningful and dignified treatment!!
Players should not get compensated period! It creates a competitive disadvantage where some schools like Duke with hundreds of millions have more money to pay their players than say a smaller school like Creighton. Even if there is a salary cap it still does not work.
Schools will also have to pay for all athletes, swimmers, soccer players, baseball players, etc. This is an enormous burden to the budgets of smaller schools and this idea should not be implemented at all.
This is also unfair to the non athlete students who have to pay for their education while scholarship athletes who are already getting a free ride are now getting compensation.
It cannot work. Athletes need to realize they will be compensated when they turn professional but money given to athletes in the college world.
They should of just payed them a lump some every year and this wouldn't of happen
Their bodies has seen wonders in injury and dreams shattered. At least compensate them for the value and worth. They deserve it!
Good for the Supreme Court this time. Be fair for once!
About FU@KING time!!!!!!!
No coach is worth 75 million.
100% agree. In fact, no one person in this recreational sports industry is worth 75 million. That’s just stupidity on the human race. They are not curing cancer or securing biosphere on mars.
They are getting paid, free tuition, free stipends, free tutoring, free food, free "fees"!!! I'm still paying for my student loans 12 years later!! This will ruin college sports, it will open massive corruption, it will be a nightmare for the universities to monitor it. "Come to our university, we have contacts to get you more money for......"
Well, does this mean athletes have to go to class and pass the same tests as others? Maybe tax payer sponsored State Schools should only allow residents athletic scholarships. If it really is a business relationship, why should non residents get a free ride?
Pay this students Athuletes
As the father of a college student who has had to take out huge loans to get through school - this rankles me! Major college athletes already get FREE TUITION AND ROOM AND BOARD! THEY GET TO GRADUATE WITH NO DEBT!
Most those kids at your child’s school wouldn’t get academic scholarships without the money from the athletic programs. You are simply uneducated to what those athletes bring to the school.
@@VIi726 and your point is?
Colleges will react to this, but maybe not in the way you hope; this really means the major schools will get ALL of the major talent, and everyone else will get none;
who will want to go watch sports at those schools?
so, many schools will drop sports, and the scholarships that non-athletes get from sports's revenue will go away;
this ruling is NOT GOOD for fans, or students
@@rayrussell6258 everything you said doesn't make sense. The top schools already get the top talent.
@@VIi726 Many NCAA athletes are getting paid. It's called an Education, and it's expensive. I had 2 kids finish college on scholarships and both got their degrees. I can't wait for the fallout of the top athletes on full rides already, pissing off their teammates because now they're more worried about their "Brand image" than putting in the work to win a championship for their school or teammates. If you want to "pay" athletes that's fine, then have them pay for their schooling out of it also. Have them sign up for one of 2 options. Full ride scholarship OR get paid for your likeness. Not both. Welcome to the "LOOK AT ME!!!!" generation.
Only the top players get full rides the majority of the team only gets partial or none
I could envision a day where the best college prospects will take a pay cut heading into the NFL & NBA.
They violated antitrust laws then what is the penalty for them ? How will they repay the people they wronged
Very confusing. What a great way to protect your best assets, athletes.
dont let any student athlete go hungry, thats all i want, 🤞🤞
A multi-billionaire should make a create a league for top-tier college age kids, and have them play in the same cities and towns as the colleges.
Maybe also offer college tuition, so those kids can attend the colleges in those cities and towns. you know, screw around with the NCAA create tension between the schools, and the NCAA.
I just waiting for the “they getting and education people “ why they need to get paid 😂
What keeps a college's alumni from getting involved and start sending the players money that sign up with their college team? A college with a large and rich alumni could easily change the tide of college recruiting landscape. Take someone like Penn State that has the largest alumni of all universities. Can't they start buying a players merch, etc. and then that could be used for future recruits? ' Hey, MIke C. went to Penn State and made $50,000 their first year'
It is for every division
So what about all the schools like UM, USC and SMU that received heavy sanctions for the very same thing that is now legal? As much as I follow Coach Saban, I find it hard to believe student athletes are going just for a championship within 3 years.
@Greg Carver exactly. Restitution is whats needed.
If the decision means paying market rates, how is this going to fit with title 9?
As the great jurist Ruth Bader Ginsberg once said, "Look over there! A rabbit!"
I m glad they getting paid I hope this doesn't ruin college football because the nfl let's politics and money get in the way
Keep them lawsuits coming
I agree pay them, but with a twist, a lot of them would never be in college, except for sports, I think they should have to pay some money for tuition, food an lodging! Not get everything free, teach them how life really works!!
They already do only certain players get full ride scholarships
Many NCAA athletes are getting paid. It's called an Education, and it's expensive. I had 2 kids finish college on scholarships and both got their degrees. I can't wait for the fallout of the top athletes on full rides already, pissing off their teammates because now they're more worried about their "Brand image" than putting in the work to win a championship for their school or teammates. If you want to "pay" athletes that's fine, then have them pay for their schooling out of it also. Have them sign up for one of 2 options. Full ride scholarship OR get paid for your likeness. Not both. Welcome to the "LOOK AT ME!!!!" generation.
@Ivan Moreno so put your hand out and let the government give you more. I have more pride than that.
Idiotic take. They generate billions of dollars for the NCAA. It is immoral not to pay them for that.
@@hermonymusofsparta name calling nice, but would expect it. How is not having to pay for school or getting free food not getting paid? I don't really think you have a leg to stand on unless you're in the game. I was and appreciated the fact that my kids were blessed to be provided those scholarships and the dollar amount it covered. You do realize that when they get paid it's only gonna be the top 1-2% who are really making anything and if you're that good, why are you in college? Good luck.
Get ready to pay higher ticket prices for college events. Guess I have already seen my last event. Could barely afford the prices before this ruling.
Get ready for the sorry college teams getting top five players
Does this mean the college football video game will be coming back out??!!! Sure hope so!
EA Sports already announced this a few months ago. The game will be called “EA Sports College Football” and is expected to release in 2023.
This topic is absurd! Is an average of a $50K education opportunity not "being paid"? How many of these athletes were awarded scholarships over academic performers, musicians, artists, etc! Listen to signing day interviews and try to convince me that some of these athletes would have been offered anything if not for their athleticism. I'm not a nerd nonathlete by the way. I worked hard to juggle both. It's a sad day that we will pay vast amounts of money to many to folks that have had easier paths than many academic achievers. How about paying true educators that kind of money or the 1% of us miltary that volunteered to protect our freedoms. True exploitation is having people being shot at for the small compensation we readily accepted. Welcome to the age of entitlement!
Yay more ways for ad platforms to advertise
Welcome home tacos supreme.
College sports is ruined
Its payday coach,,,,,,oh you are a tennis #1? Heres your 12 dollars for the quarter !!!
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