As to Bernie Eisels job situation, he's a DS at Bora and was active in that role at the Vuelta, but whenever he's not he's a commentator on the german Eurosport broadcast for big races. He did the Giro and the Tour as a commentator this year.
Eating rest food was the favourite hobby of me and my mates at our local pub for a long time during uni years. A few years later I ended up doing a short stint as a dishwasher in a pretty fancy restaurant. Rest assured those plates returning basically untouched got cleaned twice! So for whatever little my opinion is worth, you did the right thing, miss Rouge shouldn't be so upset.
21:50 That one guy trying to work in second group chasing Laurence in U23 world was Svrček. Young Slovak allrounder on Quickstep. He was having also some knee problem all year so he haven´t got much more good results. But anyway he´s capable of wining something big in the future. I was a bit disapointed you didn´t mention him in quickstep podcast, because he´s gonna do something next year :)
The tdf team looks unstoppable so long as they're all healthy come july. We are spoilt to be in an age where there are such amazing talent in the sport. This tdf is one for the ages
To put into context the performance of Morgado in his first year of U23, he dragged an injury for most parts of the year. This affected the Giro and he could not compete in LBL which is his favourite race. For the L'Avenir he was not injured but he could not get into shape because of his injuries. Still, after being Vice-World Champion in 2022 in Juniors, he followed with another silver medal in the World Champs in his first year of U23.
GIro: Ayuso, Soler, McNulty, Yates. Tour: Pagacar, Majka, Sivokov, Vine, Yates. Vuelta: Ayuso, Soler, Vine. Transfer Almeida to some team that needs a GC rider and spend the money on a rouleur. Duel leaders at the giro Ayuso, Yates. At the tour just send vine in every break (Atleast early on) and force other teams to chase. Vuelta Ayuso main leader other two domestique
So I thought of a crazy format for a race and I'm writing here because I think UAE would do great in it if it were to exist: But picture a one-week-race where instead of a GC, the last 20(?) riders to finish each state gets eliminated out of the time limit and then the last stage there would only be 20 riders (of course, a shorter stage would then be needed) and they would fight for the finish without the help of a lot of domistiques. The general type of stages would be mountainous or hilly but there could be a sprint or classics type stage in there to mix it up. This format would give rise to new type of tactics and race dynamics and would be fun to see, but unfortunately it is probably a bit too crazy to be executed.
Ain't no sprinter going there mate... Even when they're in a GC train, just to ride the first climb at the front of the peloton to then drop and get eliminated...
Literally no problem eating the banana bread. I relatively often will take the end of a bottle of wine on the table next to me when they've left. If there's more than 1/4 of the bottle left, it needs to be drunk...
Medium warm take, Pogi will have pretty much the same season as this one, win some classics, get dropped by Jonas, and he wins either worlds or Olympics, no grand tour win
@@MangoJasssssHe won 2 monuments, finished second at the Tour de France GC and third at the World championship road race, also won Fleche Wallone and Amstel Gold race 2 high level world Tour races. It was an outstanding season from him.
My prediction ,everyone wil talk and look on poggi and roglic,maybe even remeco, as usual noone wil count winge in the math , that might be a fault like the last couple of year😂❤
Much of this is void now that Pogi is going for Giro. They have a deep squad obviously, but like Adam Yates proved last year, if you are not willing to sacrifice Pogi, you cannot use strength in numbers for anything. Vingo & Visma-LAB knows that UAE doesn't wanna sacrifice Pogi. They called their bluff, and concentrated solely on Pogi. That's why they should tell Pogi to sit back and wait for Vingo to make the moves. Send Yates or Ayuso up the road and see how big a gap they can get. And Pogi needs to do nothing for as long as possible.
I got a hand it to poggi Boys, they never sems to loose there spirit😂😂😂 let us just get a show , I look forward to 2024 ,and Hope anyone comes in peak form,
To steal from low hanging American sports talk radio content: let’s play what’s more likely? A) Pog wins MSR and Paris Roubaix or B) MVDP wins LBL and Lombardi
Sivakov has made a huge career mistake, its a financial decision for him and a hoard all the competition for UAE. He is going to be part of that group of top GC guys that compete against each other. How is he better than Almeida, McN and Ayuso? Definitely not near Yates.
Pogacar being Pogacar because he sometime doesn't follow the layman's common sense. He enjoyed racing all the challenging races. Do you want him to be just another boring Vingegaard?
You just know it has to be a salty Pogacar fan girl commenting like this. It's like they already forgot stage 6 of Tour de France this year, where Vingegaard attacked like 50 kms out, and Pogacar wheelsucked the entire stage until 2 kms before the line. Like a proper mountain sprinter.
@@HolgerDanske874Pogi is in my eyes the way better overall rider, because he can and will race one day races and stage races at an very very high level.
@@adrianbuck8772 And it's fine you think that, but that doesn't make Vingegaard boring. He is anything but boring, as Shadowboost put it. If you want to see boring, look at how Froome and Sky used to ride.
negotiation tactic lol every sports team in history is a bit of a boys club. that being said still kinda corny by both parties, the best teams i have been on are when there is communication and mutual accountability, my guess is cian has a big mouth and bennett vlasov postlberger et al were not having it. right now it is all posturing and they will settle on a big number and maybe agree to stretch it over multiple years. bora doesn't want to keep an unhappy rider, jumbo wants to keep as much of the roglic money as possible.
If the app group is set up for everyone else specifically to talk negatively about him, yes. Especially in the context of this being a tall poppy situation where the rest diss his professionalism in many other situations too. And that seems to be the case. Thijs Zonneveld wouldn't make up something like this. As for the contract, EU/German labour laws apply, so Cian can leave if he has cause to do so.
@@rdklkje13 Yeah, he can leave if he has cause or pays the fine. But he can't ride races untill the UCI also give permission for his move (which they haven't done so far).
Lil bit of a shame that you forgot to mention Hirschis 2023 points farming galore shedule. Streets will not forget this season
Still waiting for the Breaking News pod on thermonuclear Mark Padun changing teams and joining Corratec! :D LOVE the preview series!
Wtf?
I'm waiting for the news in 2030 where he admits to doping
@@samc2626I mean, if thats the case, a Giro invite with Corratec would be the perfect way to win a GT Stage and get away with it😂
He's going to win the Grappa stage from the GC group in next year's giro
I'm absolutely shocked this is how I found out lolol
You guys are nuts…McNuggets is a MVP…should definitely be at the tour
We need an emergency pod for Tadej announcing he's going to the Giro.
No we don't
As to Bernie Eisels job situation, he's a DS at Bora and was active in that role at the Vuelta, but whenever he's not he's a commentator on the german Eurosport broadcast for big races. He did the Giro and the Tour as a commentator this year.
Eating rest food was the favourite hobby of me and my mates at our local pub for a long time during uni years. A few years later I ended up doing a short stint as a dishwasher in a pretty fancy restaurant. Rest assured those plates returning basically untouched got cleaned twice! So for whatever little my opinion is worth, you did the right thing, miss Rouge shouldn't be so upset.
21:50 That one guy trying to work in second group chasing Laurence in U23 world was Svrček. Young Slovak allrounder on Quickstep.
He was having also some knee problem all year so he haven´t got much more good results. But anyway he´s capable of wining something big in the future.
I was a bit disapointed you didn´t mention him in quickstep podcast, because he´s gonna do something next year :)
I’m a Pogi Stan and him winning RVV was my favorite moment of the season, but I think he should focus on the Tour and the Olympics next year
Win MSR, win TDF, season done, ride worlds, Olympics and vuelta for fun. Win Lombardia on a kids bike
@@PHHE1 lmao I love the energy
The problem with focussing on the Tour is that he can't beat Jonas there anyway
The tdf team looks unstoppable so long as they're all healthy come july. We are spoilt to be in an age where there are such amazing talent in the sport. This tdf is one for the ages
I'd like to see UAE go all out and bring all their best to the TDF
pog won't focus on it. He just loves racing all year too much.
@@nonfictionone Except he stated he would do so back in November
To put into context the performance of Morgado in his first year of U23, he dragged an injury for most parts of the year. This affected the Giro and he could not compete in LBL which is his favourite race. For the L'Avenir he was not injured but he could not get into shape because of his injuries. Still, after being Vice-World Champion in 2022 in Juniors, he followed with another silver medal in the World Champs in his first year of U23.
GIro: Ayuso, Soler, McNulty, Yates. Tour: Pagacar, Majka, Sivokov, Vine, Yates. Vuelta: Ayuso, Soler, Vine.
Transfer Almeida to some team that needs a GC rider and spend the money on a rouleur.
Duel leaders at the giro Ayuso, Yates. At the tour just send vine in every break (Atleast early on) and force other teams to chase. Vuelta Ayuso main leader other two domestique
You forgot F. Großschartner
51:18 Cian stays in Bora, Jonas crashes in Tour and Kuss realises he's American so turns to Gravel - job done, it is possible
I'm going to be heading to Ghent, from Vancouver, for RVV and P-R next year. I'll be checking off your Pull Buddy jerseys on the roads.
Loving these previews gents. Awesome 🙌
great pod, also loved the story-time lmao
Get to EF already, the Irish trio to the giro !
I’m the Bauhaus of listening to this podcast
We degenerates thrive in the chaos of 'Bauhaus sprint' hot takes
My hot take: UAE scoop the 3 Grand Tours
So I thought of a crazy format for a race and I'm writing here because I think UAE would do great in it if it were to exist: But picture a one-week-race where instead of a GC, the last 20(?) riders to finish each state gets eliminated out of the time limit and then the last stage there would only be 20 riders (of course, a shorter stage would then be needed) and they would fight for the finish without the help of a lot of domistiques. The general type of stages would be mountainous or hilly but there could be a sprint or classics type stage in there to mix it up.
This format would give rise to new type of tactics and race dynamics and would be fun to see, but unfortunately it is probably a bit too crazy to be executed.
Ain't no sprinter going there mate... Even when they're in a GC train, just to ride the first climb at the front of the peloton to then drop and get eliminated...
In tdf stage it wasnt raining since the 2021 so two years so i hope it rains only one mountain stage or is just not that hot at two mountain stages.
Where do you guys watch full stages on demand? I can watch recent one back over on Eurosport, but could find ones like granon when I looked for it
uci best team badge is metallic gold on the new kits 🔥
This pod was uploaded 4 days to early
Literally no problem eating the banana bread. I relatively often will take the end of a bottle of wine on the table next to me when they've left. If there's more than 1/4 of the bottle left, it needs to be drunk...
Pog. Strade, Tirreno, MSR, Flanders, altitude camp, Dauphine, altitude camp. Tour, Olympics, worlds, Lombardy. win the lot 🤣
I think crashing in Liege really affected Pog's ability to hold on in the third week, just to paraphrase a recent Jay Vine interview.
He couldn't hold on in the third week in 2022 either
With his record, would you take Vine to the tour? Low likelyhood he is even in the race in week 3
Yeah LR overrates him because Australian bias
"UAE leading"😂 I am looking forward to seeing this pan out in the grand tours 🍿🍿
LR, man, terrible storytime this time... I'm with Mrs Rouge.
We need an emergency podcast about Tadej his program!
You know you've got a stacked roster when you can do a 55min long podcast about a team and not mention the 9th highest points scorer of 2023.
where are we watching all these races ? Any updates ?
They will win like 23 races…youth is getting stronger and the strongest have been spread out
Yeah but at the same time they have a lot of youth too.. Ayuso, del Toro, Morgado, Christen, Fisher-Black, VInk...
Medium warm take, Pogi will have pretty much the same season as this one, win some classics, get dropped by Jonas, and he wins either worlds or Olympics, no grand tour win
Is bingo bongo tour the binck bank tour?
Renewi tour nowadays
@@janbregar2561 yes, but bingo bongo is their inside joke
Lets go Morgado. Future star.
So, hot take after the giro news. Pog wins giro, Tdf and wc
I think based on the level Fisher-Black showed at Vuelta he will be better than any rouleur they could've signed
if pog does classics then he's doing Flanders. else he may as well do giro
exactly, no way is he not returning as defending champion
GIRO: Almeida has a better TT than A. Yates.
General: 2025 Ajuso to Movistar
When did Thomas say that UAE didn't surpass Ineos?
in one of his podcast episodes
@@bbuuttercupp Yeah I know, but which one lol
@@janbregar2561 pretty sure it was 'Mystery mergers, Euro trash and rugby riders' unless I'm misremembering
Pogi needs to focus on maybe 2-3 focus races and just train/support other team goals…he tries to win every race he enters and that takes a toll
It’s also what makes him Tadej Pogacar. He’s always 100% going for the win. Long term though, a more focused approach will yield higher quality wins
@@MangoJasssssHe won 2 monuments, finished second at the Tour de France GC and third at the World championship road race, also won Fleche Wallone and Amstel Gold race 2 high level world Tour races.
It was an outstanding season from him.
@@MangoJasssss Maybe if Pogacar wasn't so selfish he would give his team mates the chance as leaders once in a while ...
Trentin's going to Tudor!
as shown at 15:45
My prediction ,everyone wil talk and look on poggi and roglic,maybe even remeco, as usual noone wil count winge in the math , that might be a fault like the last couple of year😂❤
"Shut up about the sun!"
- Gabe Lewis
Much of this is void now that Pogi is going for Giro.
They have a deep squad obviously, but like Adam Yates proved last year, if you are not willing to sacrifice Pogi, you cannot use strength in numbers for anything. Vingo & Visma-LAB knows that UAE doesn't wanna sacrifice Pogi. They called their bluff, and concentrated solely on Pogi. That's why they should tell Pogi to sit back and wait for Vingo to make the moves. Send Yates or Ayuso up the road and see how big a gap they can get. And Pogi needs to do nothing for as long as possible.
my hot take, [the man you ignored] marc hirschi wins a monument and two other classics.
My hot take for UAE is that they gonna win a GT but it wont be Pogacar.
McNugget wins a classic
New sponsorship with Gatorade?
The "9th best rider in the world" Marc Hirschi disrespect!
Jumbo not being the number one ranked team is downright laughable
POGI Only Team. As long as the others work for him, it is fine.
Yes, McNuggets did well in 2023
definitely not play on. never take food served to someone else :)
Hot take, Pogi takes the Giro and Vuelta, Roglic takes the Tour, Jumbo takes nothing...
More like delusional take...
I got a hand it to poggi Boys, they never sems to loose there spirit😂😂😂 let us just get a show , I look forward to 2024 ,and Hope anyone comes in peak form,
To steal from low hanging American sports talk radio content: let’s play what’s more likely?
A) Pog wins MSR and Paris Roubaix or
B) MVDP wins LBL and Lombardi
Option A!
Mvdp can't win Lombardi, pog can win MSR and Paris Roubaix if he puts on 5kg
A all day... but i don't see Pogi winning roubaix, simply no place for him to make a difference
Sivakov has made a huge career mistake, its a financial decision for him and a hoard all the competition for UAE. He is going to be part of that group of top GC guys that compete against each other. How is he better than Almeida, McN and Ayuso? Definitely not near Yates.
Pogacar being Pogacar because he sometime doesn't follow the layman's common sense. He enjoyed racing all the challenging races. Do you want him to be just another boring Vingegaard?
Vingegaard is anything but boring
You just know it has to be a salty Pogacar fan girl commenting like this. It's like they already forgot stage 6 of Tour de France this year, where Vingegaard attacked like 50 kms out, and Pogacar wheelsucked the entire stage until 2 kms before the line. Like a proper mountain sprinter.
@@HolgerDanske874Pogi is in my eyes the way better overall rider, because he can and will race one day races and stage races at an very very high level.
@@adrianbuck8772 And it's fine you think that, but that doesn't make Vingegaard boring. He is anything but boring, as Shadowboost put it. If you want to see boring, look at how Froome and Sky used to ride.
@@HolgerDanske874 I'm not the biggest Froome fan, but he did do some spectacular things some forget. Like crazy long-range attack in Vuelta😮.
Benji such a yes man , always states the most obvious & bland opinions, the only real insightful opinions are from Patrick imo
Vine kinda sucks, no way he's useful for Pogi at the tour
So cian is not being invited to acwhatsapp group, is bullying?
He has a contract, period
negotiation tactic lol every sports team in history is a bit of a boys club. that being said still kinda corny by both parties, the best teams i have been on are when there is communication and mutual accountability, my guess is cian has a big mouth and bennett vlasov postlberger et al were not having it. right now it is all posturing and they will settle on a big number and maybe agree to stretch it over multiple years. bora doesn't want to keep an unhappy rider, jumbo wants to keep as much of the roglic money as possible.
I thought the thing was that it was made to talk behind his back, though that might also just be a spin on the story (if it is true).
If the app group is set up for everyone else specifically to talk negatively about him, yes. Especially in the context of this being a tall poppy situation where the rest diss his professionalism in many other situations too. And that seems to be the case. Thijs Zonneveld wouldn't make up something like this. As for the contract, EU/German labour laws apply, so Cian can leave if he has cause to do so.
@@rdklkje13 Yeah, he can leave if he has cause or pays the fine. But he can't ride races untill the UCI also give permission for his move (which they haven't done so far).
Hot take, Pogi doesn’t top 5 tour. Jonas, Rog, Remoc, Ayuso, Kuss in that order
🤢
BECAUSE POG WINS ALL 6 MONUMENTS, THE GIRO VUELTA DOUBLE AND EVERY SINGLE HILL CLASSIC ON THE CALENDAR