History of the Lombards, 568-774

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  • @francescofontana9707
    @francescofontana9707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I just came back from a lecture by Italian professor Barbero, it's fascinating to see the remnants of the Lombard culture both in the Italian language and costumes.

    • @ThersitestheHistorian
      @ThersitestheHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How was the talk? I enjoyed his book on Adrianople.

    • @francescofontana9707
      @francescofontana9707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThersitestheHistorian loved it,! But I'm a bit partial to him,he's good at explaining complex concepts to lay audiences,when he talks he does so with a passion that is really difficult to ignore.
      I also read the Adrianoples book! I managed to have it autographed and was really happy about it!

    • @BernaskaneyTheLangobard
      @BernaskaneyTheLangobard ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Speaking old Norse and Icelandic, and being able to read some old High German/Lombard, I can tell you something more: the name Bernasconi comes from Bernaskáney, where Berna is inflected Ber, italian "orso", and Skáney was the ancient name of the region of Scandinavia known in Italy as "Scania"; Skàney later turns in the Swedish Skåne and in the Icelandic Skáni, basically vocalized as Sconi, with Á being A that turns in O.
      From the inflected Bernus comes the old Norse Björn, because of a process known as rupture: E followed by U breaks in two sounds closer to U: J and Ö; they are not I and O because they needed to know that they were mutated vowels.
      The name Beretta, as the Berretta, is made of Ber Hatt, "orso" e "cappello", as english bear hat, and it develops as the word Berserkr, "orso" e "maglia", bear shirt.
      The italian languages uses words and verbs from old high German languages:
      The italian "Tu mi guardi" can be translated in the old Norse "Þú mik varðar", guardando is "varðandi", guardato is past participle "varðat", with different inflection if the adjective form is used;
      Words like "guanto", "wantæ", "ricco", "ríkk", "gatto", "köttr", plural "kattar", "colle", "holl", and many more.
      Actually also latin shares some word with old German languages, like "pater", föðr, feðr, faðir, "frater", broðir, or surprisingly even subjects: "Ego", for example, is old Icelandi "eg", that comes from Ek and before that from "ik" and "ih".
      While it is often said that "Deus" and indian words like "Dyaus" are of the indoaryan root "Diw", "light", I would say that the actual base of the word is old Norse and Germanic Ljós, "light": with emphasys on the first part of the word, as old German rule, you can notice the birth of D between L and J: Ljós turns into L-D-jós, so Djós, like Deus, while Jupiter, Ju-Piter, literally "Deus Pater" keeps the J. However, J is generally a mutated sound, and probably the origi al word coud have been with U sound, like Lú or something, similar to the Celtic Lugh.

  • @54markl
    @54markl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Odin had a very fine spear which he called Gungnir. One day his wife gave birth to a son who was very long and slender. Odin looked at the child in amazement and said. “My wife! Have you given birth just now to Gungnir?” “That shall be his name,” said Freya promptly. Odin started to protest, but Freya went on. “How now, Odin?” she said. “Shall you freely give such a fine name to a piece of ash-wood, yet deny it to your own son?” When Freya said that, the child laughed. Odin smiled and said “Very well, my child. Since the name pleases you, you shall have it. And may you grow up to be as mighty and fell as the spear!” This was how Gungnir, the father of all the Lombards, was named by Odin and his wife Freya.

  • @thefoolonthehill8394
    @thefoolonthehill8394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    0:00 Intro
    0:19 Early history
    1:31 Byzantine Danubian politics
    3:11 Alboin's Invasion of Italy (start 568)
    4:42 Skull cup coup
    5:54 Arian Kingdom
    8:11 King Liutprand (712-744)
    9:53 Desiderius' demise (756-774)
    11:59 Lombard State
    13:48 Lombard survivals

  • @joececcacci4879
    @joececcacci4879 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Once the Lombards entered Italy they immediately fell in love with the country and a good thing came out of that---me

    • @BRAgamer
      @BRAgamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wich part of italy your familyt comes from joe? u found byDNA test?

    • @johnbaptiste6497
      @johnbaptiste6497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never knew much of the Lombards, as my family came from Cornwall and Nothern Norway, and I was surprised that my DNA came back as being in relation with the Lombards and Swiss. I-L22 and 328 Neatherthal traits. I find this all very interesting.

    • @conquista2923
      @conquista2923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Me as well! Aistulf King of the Lombards was my 37th great grandfather. Any information on other living descendants in Lombardy? Thank you

    • @ConstantineJoseph
      @ConstantineJoseph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      So you are not a true Roman but a barbarian?

    • @pitmezzari2873
      @pitmezzari2873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BRAgamer every european is descended from the same people living in the 9th century, which means that we're all descended from both Charlemagne and the lowest of the peasants in his empire.

  • @lombard2567
    @lombard2567 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    What we know is that the saxons attacked the lombards, won a battle and then the lombards got revenge and thrashed the saxons within some months after. Tribes were moving around in the north of germania and the lombards started their move south. Yes the franks stopped the lombards(who were a much smaller tribe) but not before the franks lost thousands of men in a battle where the lombards thrashed them. Still outnumbered btw. The only reason franks beat them was because the frankish empire was huge at the time and working with opposing tribes in italy and the leader of the traitorous church.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The Franks won because they had a century of advantage. In France, the process of assimilation of the Franks with the rest of the population was completed by Charlemagne's grandfather, Charles Martel, that accepted them in the army. That process was still at the beginning in Italy (that had been invaded by the Lombards a century after the beginning of the Merovingian kingdom in France), where the Lombards were still a Germanic tribe separated from the Italics and the German remainants of the previous invasions, that were their subjects, and couldn't fight. That way the Franks could assemble a far greater army than that of the Lombards.

    • @ConstantineJoseph
      @ConstantineJoseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Franks by and large weren't like the Lombards who inherited a land through outright conquest and subjugation of the populace in Italy. When the Lombards gained Italy somewhere in the late 6th century to the early 7th century, the country had already been wasted by 2 centuries of constant warfare and plague. It was like a sprint race of riches to rags. The Gothic war between the Ostrogoths and the Byzantine Romans left Italy in a shambolic state, with Rome dwindling from her height of almost a million population to numbering tens of thousands. This is pretty sad state of affairs when the Lombards rolled in. There was no more infrastructure and bureaucratic order.
      As for the Franks, they were always the best barbarian Friend of the Romans, particularly their contributions to the Gallo Romans in Gaul, by protecting their lands and actually becoming Romanized in the late Roman army system. They held positions in the imperial military and dressed to their best to Roman uniforms and some even becoming adopted Romans. When they took over most of Gaul, they did not find the country to be in the state of despair like Italy. The systems of Gallo Roman governance was there, learned men and skilled Roman craftsmen were there to learn from. Hence these Franks admired and wanted to immerse themselves to become Romanized with the Gallo Roman population. Which they did, building upon Roman innovations, adopting most of their military technology, building their Churches, walls and forts etc.....
      Hence the more intact Gallo Roman province gave the tolerant Franks the right platform for economic, military, political growth than the Lombards who suffer from the lack of a unifying figure in some periods of their history.
      These two factions of the Franks and the Lombards would become the premier factions of the dark ages and after the Arab invasions, the Franks with a much more powerful military would crush the Lombards in Italy and would become their rulers

  • @raffaellodellavaris8140
    @raffaellodellavaris8140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Lombards, Lombardi, Longobardi and Lamberts are the same family. Nowadays you find Lamberts in Belgium and Lombardi in Italy but they are the same family that came out of Scandanan (Viking Lower Sweden and Norway) who traditionally used Uppland (Swedish) style swords. I have Lambert DNA which is shared with Northern Italy to Tuscany, Austria, Belgium, Switzerland, Hungary and Slovenia and other places the Lamberts went like Yorkshire England and US etc. The original Lambert Lombard lands were the lands where you find Varz / Vars / Varis (which I think means Castle or Fort).

    • @hunter5502000
      @hunter5502000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I descend from Lombards. Very interesting history.

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a Carolingian king of Italy called Lambert - he was well loved but died very young and greatly mourned!

  • @hunter5502000
    @hunter5502000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting video. I'm learning everything I can about the lombards because after doing my ancestry it turns out I have a lot of lombard dna.

  • @AuthariRexLangbard
    @AuthariRexLangbard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I consider myself a descendant of this great nation, as well as a lover.

    • @ThersitestheHistorian
      @ThersitestheHistorian  6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Haha, I would never be able to guess based on your user name. :)

    • @franktheco
      @franktheco 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AuthariRexLangbard what's up cuz

    • @eya-xh9qo
      @eya-xh9qo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lumbardh is Alb.. name se facebook lumbardh is not langbeard
      lombard Bardh means Whit. Lum means River
      BOR means ''snow'' bardh means white

    • @mzeewatk846
      @mzeewatk846 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rellun .a Etymology has always been litigatious . :)

    • @eya-xh9qo
      @eya-xh9qo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mzee Watk sorry my eng... no gode
      check this in facebook all ar Alb.... names Lumbardh ,Lumni,Lumnije, Lume,Bardhyl, Bardhec, Bardhok aftername Bardic all have meaning in Alb.. language . I am not historian for me its funn how words have Alb.... meaning if you say MANFRED is German name evry body beliv you it means MANPEACE if i say lumbardh is Alb ... every body sey ETYMOLOGY is LITIGATIOS is that like this all belong to the big ones

  • @Numischannel
    @Numischannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice and entertaining survey! I liked specially the "Skull Cup Coup"! Just a couple of mistakes to point out:
    - Alboin was not succeded by his son in Italy, he was succeeded by Cleph (Clefi), who was not related to Alboin by blood; Alboin had only a daughter, no male heir;
    - Ravenna was not captured by Desiderius, who came to the throne in 756, it was captured by Aistulf (Aistolfo) in 751.

  • @HelamanGile
    @HelamanGile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My family was king of Franks and king of Lombard's so it is good to know their history

  • @Nortrix87
    @Nortrix87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a north Norwegian with only known scandinavian family tree i got my DNA compared to anicent grave DNA in mytrueancestry like this:
    Viking + Saxon (1.733)
    Viking + Longobard (3.009)
    Viking Norwegian + Longobard (3.183)
    Viking Norwegian + Saxon (3.696)
    Viking Danish + Longobard (4.322)
    Longobard (5.219)
    Viking (5.649)
    Viking Norwegian (6.468)
    Saxon (7.752)
    Viking Danish (8.205)
    Genetic distance explained:
    "Genetic distance measures how close you are to a given sample.
    10 means this is your ancient ancestry
    20 means this is part of your ancestral link
    30 means possibly related to your ancestry"
    This is how Lombards graves DNA compare with average modern populations(less is closer):
    1. Swedish (7.174)
    2. Norwegian (8.080)
    3. West_Norwegian (8.438)
    4. North_Dutch (8.623)
    5. Danish (8.681)
    6. North_Swedish (9.624)
    7. West_Scottish (10.06)
    8. Irish (10.31)
    So apparently DNA seem to support Scandinavia as origin for the Lombards?

    • @BernaskaneyTheLangobard
      @BernaskaneyTheLangobard ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My parents surnames are Bernasconi and Beretta, and they have no meaning in Italian; only Beretta is related to a kind of hat.
      Beretta is from Ber Hatt, bear hat, Bernasconi from Bernaskáney; Skáney was the ancient name of the region of Scania, now known in Sweden as Skåne and Iceland as Skáni, vocalized practically as Sconi from Bernasconi, that means Scania of Ber.
      Bernus, inflected Ber, later turns into Björn because of a process known as rupture: E followed by U is broken in JÖ, as seen in erþu, earth, jörð.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@BernaskaneyTheLangobardso we have to thanks the ancient Lombards for the 92FS?

    • @andersen3692
      @andersen3692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BernaskaneyTheLangobardCerto che ne hai di fantasia 😂

    • @BernaskaneyTheLangobard
      @BernaskaneyTheLangobard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andersen3692 ᛒᛁᚦ᛬ᛁᚴ᛬ᛏᛁᛚ᛬ᛅᛁᚾᛋᚴᛁᛋ᛬ᛅᛒᛏᚱ᛬ᛅᛏ᛬ᛅᚠᚾᛅᛁᛏᛁᛦ᛬ᚦᚢᛁ᛬ᛋᛁᛘ᛬ᛋᛅᚴᚦᛅ᛫

  • @fuzzydunlop7928
    @fuzzydunlop7928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    0:44 - **SWEATS IN MACEDONIAN**

  • @thebristolianmackem2039
    @thebristolianmackem2039 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i found out im a lombard through dna testing and norwiegen french and italian but im from england and 25% scottish from clan wallace didnt realise that was the connection and also am related to king clovis all very interesting

  • @Bayubadu
    @Bayubadu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kings also appointed gastalds, like a official to control the dukes.

  • @HelamanGile
    @HelamanGile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank for the family history

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my favourite Handel operas Rodelinda regina dei Longobardi is set during this era.he got the story from one of the great French dramatists Corneille I think.

  • @jogoapp4752
    @jogoapp4752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man

  • @PeteV80
    @PeteV80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not to be that guy....but Paul the Deacon writes that the Lombards were still Pagan while in Pannonia. Archaeological finds in that region associated with the Lombards date to 590. This would suggest they were not yet Christianized, yet your opener states that they were Christian in the 5th century.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes sense.
      It was the general (though not universal) rule that Germanics became Christianised as a result of settling on Roman territory.

  • @annamosier1950
    @annamosier1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good info that we need

  • @Kuudere-Kun
    @Kuudere-Kun ปีที่แล้ว

    Wikipedia actually says they did become Orthodox first and adopted Arianism only during the reign of Alboin.

  • @josegalego1387
    @josegalego1387 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    King Aistulf was a grandson of Billo Belluno. Couldn't find any more ancestors. Hope you can find those ancestors of King Aistulf. Thank you.

    • @conquista2923
      @conquista2923 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you a descendant of King Aistulf? He was my 37th great grandfather.

  • @DHGuru
    @DHGuru 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a family tree book from Vatican that belongs to my family. In it is a Langobard count/ king. Meaning my father an I are direct desendants from the Langobards/ Longobardini.

    • @DHGuru
      @DHGuru 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His surname was Ajstulf. My surname has than evolved to Aistulfus( latinized later when Langobards collapsed) and now it is Stolfa.

    • @conquista2923
      @conquista2923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 37th great grand father was King Aistulf of the Lombards. Any knowledge of the modern day decendants in Lombardy area?

    • @lilliambloomfield2501
      @lilliambloomfield2501 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HeyTimmy tell me more. How were you able to trace back. How wonderful is that, wow!

  • @DonMeaker
    @DonMeaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the story of Sigurd and Gudrun is derived from the fall of the royal house of the Volsungs/Langobards

  • @gilbertobertozzi7510
    @gilbertobertozzi7510 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Scania mater gentium".
    Paul the Deacon

  • @neverendingjourneystilllea5271
    @neverendingjourneystilllea5271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @eliaspapanikolaou3563
    @eliaspapanikolaou3563 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For About 500 years Germanic Lombards and Byzantine [Greeks where Fithting for Italy ]Byzantines Claim Roman Legacy But the lombards Where not an easy Enemy they servive Even when other players came in Italy like Normans .....An d French ..

    • @ConstantineJoseph
      @ConstantineJoseph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Byzantines were Roman. They are the eastern Romans but became Greek speaking...... nothing wrong with that. The Lombards had it easy because the Byzantines preferred to focus on Sassanids and Bulgars and Arabs who were the biggest threat

    • @googleisafuckingjoke6855
      @googleisafuckingjoke6855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ConstantineJoseph The Byzantines are Greeks larping as Romans.

    • @ConstantineJoseph
      @ConstantineJoseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@googleisafuckingjoke6855 Nope they aren't They really are Romans, citizen wise. Literally they are the Eastern Roman Empire, except that they decided to use Greek instead of Latin as their choice of language. If not everything from religion, to architecture, to Byzantine army systems and weaponry were Roman and the legacy of the Romans. They updated consistently on their weaponries and used divide and conquer like the Romans do.
      They are Roman

    • @googleisafuckingjoke6855
      @googleisafuckingjoke6855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ConstantineJoseph No they are Greeks who claim to be Roman, genetically they are Greek and their culture was mostly Greek with some Roman influence within it. Their architecture, system and Armies were all inspired mixture of Roman and Greek culture (aka Greco-Roman) but they are still mostly Greek. And they didn't choose to speak Greek because it was their choice of lanauage they spoke it because they already spoke it and it was easier to speak a language that is native to your lands along with the fact that they never really spoke Latin after the Romans had conquered Greece similarly to how the Carthagians never stopped speaking Punic.

    • @alior6933
      @alior6933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ConstantineJoseph If they were indeed Romans why did they ultimately switch from Latin to Greek? They were really Greeks and behaved as such..

  • @sunnyboy4553
    @sunnyboy4553 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just found your channel and love it. However, what religion were Rothari's successors?? You say they weren't Christian.. so were they pagan? Maybe they are the root of the Black Nobility today who still practice the occult. There were many groups who converted to Christianity by force, it was a top down conversion, and in secret they maintained their old ways.
    Naples especially received a lot of occult, ancient knowledge from ancient Greece, Egypt, Babylon and Assyria. This knoweledge never died out under Christianity, but was practiced secretly.

    • @Invisibile
      @Invisibile 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were Christians, but Arian Christians. As a typical german tribe they embraced centuries before Christianity under the theological doctrine of bishop Arius. Mainly they believe that Trinity wasn't the same "entity", but the Father was superior to J.Ch and the Holy Spirit.

  • @audoingodan7511
    @audoingodan7511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we were originally known as the winnli before we were known as the lombards. there is record of us long before the christ was born even. no we were not any kind of christian until after albion was dead. not much is known, because most true history is either held in the vatican and not shared, or known to the direct line of certain kings. you did get more right than most people though.

  • @gilbertobertozzi7510
    @gilbertobertozzi7510 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I ❤ Alboin

  • @kellysiriusstar2212
    @kellysiriusstar2212 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My linage Godbeer is of Lombard descent .. Godbeer was changed from Godfrey , Godbear , And some other names , I followed these names back to Godfrey of bouillon and beyond

    • @kellysiriusstar2212
      @kellysiriusstar2212 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Names where changed when Domes day book came out .. My Grandmothers side were Italians

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Godfrey of Buillon was norman, not lombard.

  • @patiachapman4692
    @patiachapman4692 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aren't the Lombards, German people posing as Burgundians, Frank, Saxons, etc

  • @antoniescargo1529
    @antoniescargo1529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Langobarden we call them.

  • @jakerupp2113
    @jakerupp2113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Obviously the lombards accepted latin as the lingua franca but did they intermingle with the populations of italy especially in the south?

    • @alior6933
      @alior6933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Of course -- Most Italians partly descend from them...

    • @quitlife9279
      @quitlife9279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alior6933 Did they mingle when they were in power or only after being subjugated along with the locals?

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@quitlife9279they just blended in. Their numbers were pretty low and through marriages with the locals they basically blended into the rest of the population and adopted their customs.

  • @turbotv7113
    @turbotv7113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mother- in -law is a Lombard from Netherland

  • @conquista2923
    @conquista2923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found potential descendants here. Long live the Lombards!

  • @elbee241
    @elbee241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm Italian the Surname of my mom is *Longobardi* in English "Lombard* my parents are barbarians

  • @itsRasku
    @itsRasku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bouta fail this test

  • @JM-fo1te
    @JM-fo1te 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's your accent?

    • @JM-fo1te
      @JM-fo1te 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@J_Rees Jersey?

  • @BruceAlrighty1991
    @BruceAlrighty1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A-

  • @lorenzomanzoni9693
    @lorenzomanzoni9693 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    they wuz arabs n sheit!!1!1