And this was the best cut on the album. Never understood why this wasn't a biggest single/hit. And Lamm was the better lead vocalist of Chicago's entire history/catalog.
Robert Lamm told Donny in an interview that they used samples of these backing vocals for the live version, so it was like he was there every night haha
Always liked this tune a lot. I mean, the way the inner harmonies move throughout, this seems like it would be so difficult live. I will say, I saw them play this live around 1992 or 93, and it was *just excellent.*
Jamie, you do it again! Pleasing us, trrue CHI fans. This is so brilliant to watch, Robert in front of the band as the leadsinger without an instrument and later sharing the mic with Peter. It even seems he's a bit shy on the stage. LOVE it! Fantastic! So enjoyable! Thank YOU!
I think this was their first tour with the horn section using wireless mics. I remember that was innovative and special back then. Awesome video, Jamie! Thanks for posting!
Chicago are and always will be my no.1 band. As a musician myself, much of my own work has been influenced by them. You mentioned the message in this song, so I have sent a video response, a promo I made in 1996 for an organisation which helps the homeless. I chose a song from a Ry Cooder album for this vid.
@JonnVon23 That's Kenny Cetera, Peter's younger brother. He was never an "official" member -and of course they promptly sh**-canned him after Peter left.
@@BlueEyes-gp8lg yes, they sure do. A long line of nineteen former players, counting originals Cetera and Seraphine. They carry a grudge against some of them, Peter; unending hateful, distasteful grudge w/ open verbal attacks. just YUCK!
Totally agree despite I didn't ignore them through the 80's. Just a remark... one of the composers is Robert Lamm, and that's great!!! I don't want to hurt any feelings but for me there is only one Chicago (I true XI) the rest are just newcomers... generally good bit not better... best regards.
While I generally prefer Chicago from the Terry Kath days, they could still come up with some gems post-1977, such as this one. It was interesting to see Robert just sing. It also appears to be Bill Champlin on percussion - most unusual.
So glad this is out here! Love the extended intro. Do the horns have an experimental pickup - right on the (brass) bells? Maybe this explains the off-notes by Lee...A really neat part of the record of version. Thank you!
the record was David Foster produced so there was some trickery; Pages the great AOR Westcoast backup vocal duo is tightening the harmonies and greg adams and jerry hey are both adding more trumpet during the brassy parts. Chicago were never gonna duplicate a david foster production live, since David augmented Chicago's entire band with session cats on 17, Paul Jackson Jr. has very tasty rhythm guitar parts on this track as well that are not in this version.
Sorry, 17 is a great album. But the best in my book is going to be either "Chicago Transit Authority" or "Chicago" (aka "Chicago II"). Probably "Chicago", that gave us "Ballet for a Girl from Buchannon" (from which we got "Make Me Smile" and "Now More than Ever" which would become the full "Make Me Smile" when the two were combined and simply their best love song "Color My World"), "Feeling Stronger Everyday", "Memories of Love", "It Better End Soon", "Where Do We Go from Here", and, of course, "25 or 6 to 4". "CTA" gave us "Does Anybody Really Know What Time it Is?", their cover of The Spencer Davis Group's "I'm A Man", "Questions 67 and 68", and "Beginnings", as well as really demonstrating Terry Kath's innovation on guitar with the improvisational "Free Form Guitar" (which was little more than Kath simply jamming in the studio).
This is one of the few decent later Chicago songs. I don't think it's a coincidence that most of the good ones after 1982 involved Robert Lamm, who is still of very fine voice here. Bad outfits (it was 1984, after all), be a really really good performance.
How does the sound suddenly become much brighter at 0:20? It cannot be taken from the album version. I have the Rhino remaster, and it doesn't have that bit in the intro.
@@ollipuurunen Bill Champlin was the blonde behind Peter Cetera on the right (stage left) playing the first set of keyboards and percussion. Kenny Cetera, I believe, is playing the second set of keyboards on the left (stage right) next to Chris Pinnick.
I wasn't originally interested in post-Terry Kath Chicago, but judging from this song, 17 might just be worth checking out. Kenny somehow reminds me of Jamie Muir, going crazy on his percussion. Propably the only time 80's Chicago has been compared to King Crimson...
ikr? I just commented on another. I wasn't just a band thing for the stage show. Everyfuckingbody was in on the action!! Audience was all in white. I remember going to a U2 show back then. We were all in white! wtf? Like the whole country was in a cult!
It's good to see these songs outside the studio. We were all younger back then.
Chicago 17 was their best selling album of all time.
And this was the best cut on the album. Never understood why this wasn't a biggest single/hit. And Lamm was the better lead vocalist of Chicago's entire history/catalog.
I Totally Agree!! Robert Is The Best Vocalist Chicago Has Ever Had!!
Yep, he's very much underrated.
Brilliant vocal Robert... Gorgeous Harmonies...amazing brass 😍 they looked cool in white 😯😍🎤🎶🎸🎺❤️
Great horns! Love Bill background vocals!
great song, donny osmond was on the album version with Richard Marx. I have played this song over and over again. well this and Prima Donna
Robert Lamm told Donny in an interview that they used samples of these backing vocals for the live version, so it was like he was there every night haha
Donny Osmond and Richard Marx were excellent on this song👍
Nice post. I saw this same song performed live in Phila with the same opening. Always loved Chris on guitar.
Rare hands-free Robert!
Danny Serraphne rocks!
Always liked this tune a lot. I mean, the way the inner harmonies move throughout, this seems like it would be so difficult live. I will say, I saw them play this live around 1992 or 93, and it was *just excellent.*
If you got the talent and the right people , nothing is impossible
Great performance... Brilliant song... Message... Love it ❤️
Just before the Cetera break up. Those outfits are a hoot.
There best lineup outside Terry Kaith
Went to three Chicago concerts in the 80s. Still, my favorite guy was the "cool" guitar player. He was awesome.
Pinnick was great with them. Canned unfortunately
Saw them in NYC a few times with Jason Scheff when he was fresh and his voice had power, range, and stamina.
Cool intro for this tour, which was a very different look for them.
That was Chris Pinnick on the guitar who replaced Donnie Dacus
Damn those horns!
80s funk x horns is a powerful combo
Seeing Robert running to the mic must have made a stop at the “Snortitorium” plus all his energy during the song. I still love Robert and Chicago
Robert was clean by then, actually.
And I was just listening to this song on my bike ride from class. Awesomeness.
Great Opening, The Orange County Irvine Meadows, California show I saw. This Tour was Outstanding.
So cool... Absolutely Brilliant Ty
This may be better than the studio version. Danny, Robert, and the horns (Walt Jimmy and Lee) are on fire!
I got to see them live when they were touring with this lineup. I think Peter's brother was with them he's playing percussions.
17 best album best line up--cannot believe peter left afterwards
Hola! Me gusta la banda Chicago.Y los he visto cuando, vienen a CD MX.
Qué envidia!, saludos amigo, esperemos vuelvan alguna vez a la CDMX
Jamie, you do it again! Pleasing us, trrue CHI fans. This is so brilliant to watch, Robert in front of the band as the leadsinger without an instrument and later sharing the mic with Peter. It even seems he's a bit shy on the stage. LOVE it! Fantastic! So enjoyable! Thank YOU!
Like seeing peter cetera rocking out on bass! Never plays anymore solo,they were at they're best just before he left.
Awesome! Saw them perform this live several years later with Jason. What a great song.
Post More Concerts From The 1982-1985 era
I think this was their first tour with the horn section using wireless mics. I remember that was innovative and special back then. Awesome video, Jamie! Thanks for posting!
Big fan of their earlier work...laughed out loud at this attire, though...
It gives it that 80s space vibe
Imagine the blow being consumed at this time!
PC stopped before Claire was born
Sorry, a really neat historic record of a live version of this rarely performed song.
Lindos chicos lindos señores
Around @5:00 you can see Peter give Robert some side-eye. Wonder if there was some tension between them?
Chicago are and always will be my no.1 band. As a musician myself, much of my own work has been influenced by them. You mentioned the message in this song, so I have sent a video response, a promo I made in 1996 for an organisation which helps the homeless. I chose a song from a Ry Cooder album for this vid.
I agree----at least during that period in time.
Jamie,
As always, thanks so much for sharing. I saw them 3 times in 84, in the D.C. area, so many memories!
Aloha Buddy!
Eddie Walker
You were fortunate to see them right before Cetera made his exit. He was a bigger loss to the group than even the great Terry Kath IMO
Great song I didn't know, always loved the band, now I love them more. Only thing, I prefer Robert at the keys.
@JonnVon23 That's Kenny Cetera, Peter's younger brother. He was never an "official" member -and of course they promptly sh**-canned him after Peter left.
This band has a long history of backstabbing members. Cetera, Danny Seraphine, Bill Champlin, Jason "Poodlehead" Schiff, etc.
@@BlueEyes-gp8lg yes, they sure do. A long line of nineteen former players, counting originals Cetera and Seraphine.
They carry a grudge against some of them, Peter; unending hateful, distasteful grudge w/ open verbal attacks.
just YUCK!
@ChicagoKid1969 thank you! Wonder if he later took dieting tips from Bill Champlin!!
Totally agree despite I didn't ignore them through the 80's. Just a remark... one of the composers is Robert Lamm, and that's great!!! I don't want to hurt any feelings but for me there is only one Chicago (I true XI) the rest are just newcomers... generally good bit not better... best regards.
That's Peter's brother Kenny on percussion.
Robert Lam👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
While I generally prefer Chicago from the Terry Kath days, they could still come up with some gems post-1977, such as this one. It was interesting to see Robert just sing. It also appears to be Bill Champlin on percussion - most unusual.
That's Peter's brother Kenny Cetera on Percussion. He toured with then in 84 and 85. Primarily used him for BGVs. Bill is on the keys 4:43
Robert Lamm is an extraordinary musician, but he never had the camera presence that the 1980s required.
Thats probably why they made Peter the STAR
Love This Clip, is the Rest of the show Available Anywhere? Please.
youtube => yves paquet - we can stop the hurtin' (orchestra version)
So glad this is out here! Love the extended intro. Do the horns have an experimental pickup - right on the (brass) bells? Maybe this explains the off-notes by Lee...A really neat part of the record of version. Thank you!
the record was David Foster produced so there was some trickery; Pages the great AOR Westcoast backup vocal duo is tightening the harmonies and greg adams and jerry hey are both adding more trumpet during the brassy parts. Chicago were never gonna duplicate a david foster production live, since David augmented Chicago's entire band with session cats on 17, Paul Jackson Jr. has very tasty rhythm guitar parts on this track as well that are not in this version.
@@cameron_fairchild Thanks for that musical tidbit!
That said, Capitalism has run amok and is not good for all.
Saw them on this tour. Don't care for the hospital attire.
17 the best album
and it's not even close
I agree and would argue that 16 was a close second IMO
Sorry, 17 is a great album. But the best in my book is going to be either "Chicago Transit Authority" or "Chicago" (aka "Chicago II"). Probably "Chicago", that gave us "Ballet for a Girl from Buchannon" (from which we got "Make Me Smile" and "Now More than Ever" which would become the full "Make Me Smile" when the two were combined and simply their best love song "Color My World"), "Feeling Stronger Everyday", "Memories of Love", "It Better End Soon", "Where Do We Go from Here", and, of course, "25 or 6 to 4". "CTA" gave us "Does Anybody Really Know What Time it Is?", their cover of The Spencer Davis Group's "I'm A Man", "Questions 67 and 68", and "Beginnings", as well as really demonstrating Terry Kath's innovation on guitar with the improvisational "Free Form Guitar" (which was little more than Kath simply jamming in the studio).
Didn't they open up the concert with this song?
Hi. Yes they did open up with this great song on the whole Chicago 17 tour.
They did when I went to the concert for this album (1985) in Toronto..... first concert of theirs I went to x
Oh Bobby Lamm what are you doing man???
This is one of the few decent later Chicago songs. I don't think it's a coincidence that most of the good ones after 1982 involved Robert Lamm, who is still of very fine voice here. Bad outfits (it was 1984, after all), be a really really good performance.
Who is the percussionist?
Who is the guest musician?
So '80s!
Idk I think it’s bad ass
How does the sound suddenly become much brighter at 0:20? It cannot be taken from the album version. I have the Rhino remaster, and it doesn't have that bit in the intro.
cool....please post more vids of this concert, particularly when Bill does Satisfaction from Runaway
Love Lamm!!!
WHo's that Orson Wells guy on guitar?
Chris Pinnick
pankfan60 The GREAT Chris Pinnick
Hey, can somebody tell me who's that one behind Peter drumming seen at 3:21 to 3:36? Is he a chicago member or just a back up? thanks.
Jonn Hiedler sorry nobody answered you in 7 years but I believe that was Kenny Cetera, Peter's brother.
2 years later- I can confirm that is indeed Pete's bro, Kenny
who's the guy on the right playing percussion?
My best guess is Peter's brother, Kenny Cetera
@@ollipuurunen Bill Champlin was the blonde behind Peter Cetera on the right (stage left) playing the first set of keyboards and percussion. Kenny Cetera, I believe, is playing the second set of keyboards on the left (stage right) next to Chris Pinnick.
Kenny Cetera, Peter's younger brother. I saw them on this tour. He's on Chicago 17 album credits.
I wasn't originally interested in post-Terry Kath Chicago, but judging from this song, 17 might just be worth checking out.
Kenny somehow reminds me of Jamie Muir, going crazy on his percussion. Propably the only time 80's Chicago has been compared to King Crimson...
it was the last hurrah for me😳😳
17 was far and away my favorite album. I think they hit their zenith with 17 and 16 is a close second IMO
Paging Dr. Lamm, paging Dr. Lamm…
Wrath of 9 men!
Stage outfits here are just a total FAIL. They look like hospital interns.
Chicago's 1985 "Good Humor Men" tour.
song is also a total fail..
Or like they're ready to paint a building. LOL.
@@decacards5250 The original 8 did... on the Chicago IX cover.
DEVO inspired fashion.
Not my present.
Wtf with the outfits! Lol oh those 80s
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ikr? I just commented on another. I wasn't just a band thing for the stage show. Everyfuckingbody was in on the action!! Audience was all in white. I remember going to a U2 show back then. We were all in white! wtf? Like the whole country was in a cult!