Nuisance is a good way of putting it. It’s a good bike but has its clear hang ups. It just keeps hangin in there with these new bikes. Feels like we’re reaching peak geometry and frame linkage design.
Had this bike since 2020 and I love it. It not being as playful is an accurate complaint, however it is a race bike so playfulness isn't its priority. Still sending huge hits on it with no problem so don't let that complaint draw you away from the bike.
I got one in the spring . I’m 5’ 10 and inbetween a M & L. I went with a S3,Put a stiffer spring in, run the chip in high. For a heavy, 170mm bike I think it’s really quite lively.
Pretty odd to be testing S5 which is a giant bike. I recently bought an S4 with Fox 38 Performance Elite, X2 Performance Shock, and X01 DERAILER for $4700. Wish you could have tested it, really a great bike.
I'm about to pull a trigger on a 3600€ expert level of one .....the thing that after 4 years it's still one of the best bikes is a clear indicator it still be great in 5 years
Pretty hard to get the full sense of how a bike performs if it is too big for you. Weird that they sent them an S5.. Thats a huge bike. Crazy how this thing still is a top contender after 4 years. Specialized really got it right with the Enduro
If you watch the rest of the videos from this year's test sessions, this was actually a pretty common complaint about the various bikes, not just the Specialized. We told the six companies our heights and weights and they sent the bike they recommend based on that info. We tested the bikes they sent us. I think the only bike that no one complained about being too long was the Nukeproof, which was also the shortest bike on test. So maybe that says something about the trends in the bike industry, or maybe the three of us are just weird. Your call.
@@charliesponsel5091 Definitly, brands want to stick with their findings. At 6ft 3in, I ride an S4 Kenevo SL which is equivalent sizing to the Enduro lineup. S5 would be great as you say for faster rowdier tracks, but alas then switchbacks/slower stuff would just be a real pain.
Just bought the 2021 enduro expert for £3000.00 in preowned but good condition. Rekindled my old passion of mountain biking now I’m finally able to afford a decent bike. Can’t wait to ride it although I suspect it’s more bike than my ability!!
For the oneup dropper, if you want less rotational play, just install the tighter tolerance shims. As an owner of a Kenevo SL S4 at 6ft 3, I will stick with the Enduro S4. I too feel that the S5 is way too long for my proportions.
I'm 5"11 and used a XL (S5) and found that this was OK, though I prefer S4 (and definitely don't like the S3, cramped). To some degree these depend on people, but I imagine some 6"3 will like the S5 if they like to plow f.e.
I'm 6'0 and I tried my friend's s3, I have shorter arms than I should for my height and it felt pretty good, but when the seat was up I felt like I was grasping for the bars because the seat was too slack. The suspension is pretty wild too, its VERY stable and planted. I've actually ended up getting a Vitus Sommet in large for my personal bike and I'd say it feels just as good, but with a better seat angle.
Crank Arm loose can be a factory problem ?? I bougth a Specialized Stumpjumper Alloy and in my first ride that became loose couple times !! Looks like the same problem ....
Hi guys - please, share your opinion about putting 180mm travel for to Spec. Enduro? It should be with 170mm travel fork but I really would like to use 180mm one. Thanks!
I am 5'10" on a good day, 150lbs with gear. I ride an S2 sworks enduro with a 180mm zeb and an overstroked rear with around 180mm. It is my favorite bike ever, the wheelbase is pretty normal reach is a bit short but the bike is plush and superrrr playful. A little bit unstable at high speed but personally I love it so much. I think I will be getting another S3 enduro while they're on sale and swap components from the sworks to the new s3 frame.
@@jordanmackay3568 ah cool, I've put a 65mm stroke super deluxe ( v1, air) on mine with a 17mm thick, but very soft bumpstop. I think the overall travel I'm using is less but it feels really good, I was more worried about over compressing my frame
@@GumptionZA what do you mean you are using less travel? With a longer stroke you will need to slightly increase air volume to keep the same sag %. But bumpers don't change travel they just slightly change ramp but not much
That skinny lanky guy’s comment was stupid. “ if your tall and under 200 pounds, this is the bike for you” bro not everyone is built like a tree branch! Most dudes over 6ft are over 200 pounds by default! Do yourself a favor and eat a sandwich. There’s no way specialized will spec a size xl frame from the factory for dudes under 200 pounds. That’s BS, I’m around 5’10 at 215 with a six pack.. what does that mean for an average height and built or bigger type of guy?? Are size medium frames set up from the factory for guys under 100 pounds in weight?
First off, congrats on your six pack. I can see it in your shirtless profile picture, and it looks very muscle-y. I've never had what I would consider a six pack, so I respect the effort required. Onto your feedback about the test: I was one of the three bike testers, and I can confirm that I watched Lear eat lots of sandwiches during the week of our bike test, so I don't think his sandwich-eating status is a problem. Something interesting about the current MTB market is that most full suspension bikes come with the same suspension kinematics and same shock tune for all the size ranges, which means it's very common for stock suspension to be too soft for taller and heavier riders or too firm for shorter and lighter riders. So your complaint might be better directed at mountain bike companies for their limited optimization for different body types. That said, the Specialized rode well for me (under 200 pounds) and for Jonny (over 200 pounds), so maybe it's a non-issue for you. It was just Lear who didn't get along with the Specialized, and again, for distinctly non-sandwich-related reasons.
@@charliesponsel5091 good job on a respectful reply to such an obnoxious and fragile ego. Once he insulted one of you to make himself feel better you should of just told him to f*** off 😂
Love that its still here in 2023 being a nuisance in these group tests.
Nuisance is a good way of putting it. It’s a good bike but has its clear hang ups. It just keeps hangin in there with these new bikes. Feels like we’re reaching peak geometry and frame linkage design.
Or spec reached out and said help us off load some product...
@@andrerichard628 oh for sure
I have an original from 2020 and it is my favorite all-time bike.
Had this bike since 2020 and I love it. It not being as playful is an accurate complaint, however it is a race bike so playfulness isn't its priority. Still sending huge hits on it with no problem so don't let that complaint draw you away from the bike.
I got one in the spring . I’m 5’ 10 and inbetween a M & L.
I went with a S3,Put a stiffer spring in, run the chip in high.
For a heavy, 170mm bike I think it’s really quite lively.
Pretty odd to be testing S5 which is a giant bike. I recently bought an S4 with Fox 38 Performance Elite, X2 Performance Shock, and X01 DERAILER
for $4700. Wish you could have tested it, really a great bike.
S4 Enduro is same size as S3 Stumpjumper Evo....
@@conman1395 Really? I saw the stumpy today at the store and I felt like the s3 was for me. But I bought the S4 enduro lol Makes sense
I'm about to pull a trigger on a 3600€ expert level of one .....the thing that after 4 years it's still one of the best bikes is a clear indicator it still be great in 5 years
@@conman1395 this is bs. a stumpy evo s3 is small af. and s4 enduro feels great for me.
Pretty hard to get the full sense of how a bike performs if it is too big for you. Weird that they sent them an S5.. Thats a huge bike. Crazy how this thing still is a top contender after 4 years. Specialized really got it right with the Enduro
If you watch the rest of the videos from this year's test sessions, this was actually a pretty common complaint about the various bikes, not just the Specialized. We told the six companies our heights and weights and they sent the bike they recommend based on that info. We tested the bikes they sent us. I think the only bike that no one complained about being too long was the Nukeproof, which was also the shortest bike on test. So maybe that says something about the trends in the bike industry, or maybe the three of us are just weird. Your call.
@@charliesponsel5091 Definitly, brands want to stick with their findings. At 6ft 3in, I ride an S4 Kenevo SL which is equivalent sizing to the Enduro lineup. S5 would be great as you say for faster rowdier tracks, but alas then switchbacks/slower stuff would just be a real pain.
@@charliesponsel5091 I didn't see you mention the heights of the riders testing the bikes either to help consumers with their decisions.
Had it. Loved it. Broke it. Swapped it. Evo now and happier
Just bought the 2021 enduro expert for £3000.00 in preowned but good condition. Rekindled my old passion of mountain biking now I’m finally able to afford a decent bike. Can’t wait to ride it although I suspect it’s more bike than my ability!!
2022 comp version is on sale for 3900. pretty much all anyone needs
Just bought a ‘23 comp for £2900.
Zeb, coil, full gx
Pretty chuffed with the value.
@@Ammotive28 saw that price decrease again. Been sending it to all my friends. enjoy the bike!
Looks so beautiful in that colour
For the oneup dropper, if you want less rotational play, just install the tighter tolerance shims. As an owner of a Kenevo SL S4 at 6ft 3, I will stick with the Enduro S4. I too feel that the S5 is way too long for my proportions.
I'm 5"11 and used a XL (S5) and found that this was OK, though I prefer S4 (and definitely don't like the S3, cramped). To some degree these depend on people, but I imagine some 6"3 will like the S5 if they like to plow f.e.
I'm 6'0 and I tried my friend's s3, I have shorter arms than I should for my height and it felt pretty good, but when the seat was up I felt like I was grasping for the bars because the seat was too slack. The suspension is pretty wild too, its VERY stable and planted. I've actually ended up getting a Vitus Sommet in large for my personal bike and I'd say it feels just as good, but with a better seat angle.
I am 5 10" and ride an S4 s-works. Nothing wrong with the size, the bike just perfect. Stable in the corner and on techie terrain.
Crank Arm loose can be a factory problem ??
I bougth a Specialized Stumpjumper Alloy and in my first ride that became loose couple times !!
Looks like the same problem ....
Nice
Hi guys - please, share your opinion about putting 180mm travel for to Spec. Enduro? It should be with 170mm travel fork but I really would like to use 180mm one. Thanks!
It is fine with 180mm
@@rubenconzales9718 yeah, I will know for the next time
Maybe next time try and get a couple of sizes to give your testers a choice.
From what ive heard, they are going to re-design the model for 2024. Maybe that will change things up a bit.
Such an incredible bike. The stumo jumper Evo was a better bike for me overall, but it is hard to deny how capable that enduro is.
I am 5'10" on a good day, 150lbs with gear. I ride an S2 sworks enduro with a 180mm zeb and an overstroked rear with around 180mm. It is my favorite bike ever, the wheelbase is pretty normal reach is a bit short but the bike is plush and superrrr playful. A little bit unstable at high speed but personally I love it so much. I think I will be getting another S3 enduro while they're on sale and swap components from the sworks to the new s3 frame.
what stroke is your shock?
@@GumptionZA 205x65 for 178mm rear travel. Worth doing and put a coil on. I'm putting a 180 air shaft in the fork next week to match the rear
@@jordanmackay3568 ah cool, I've put a 65mm stroke super deluxe ( v1, air) on mine with a 17mm thick, but very soft bumpstop. I think the overall travel I'm using is less but it feels really good, I was more worried about over compressing my frame
@@GumptionZA what do you mean you are using less travel? With a longer stroke you will need to slightly increase air volume to keep the same sag %. But bumpers don't change travel they just slightly change ramp but not much
I have a cherry red sworks frame build for sale, 350 miles on it 4500
How tall are the testers?
I'm 6'3", Lear (who didn't love the Enduro) is 6'4", and Jonny is 6'5".
Giants 😂
should have got s4
the geo from 2021 to 2024 no changes.. except for colours n components...
race bike i will never harness !
strongly dislike the feel of this bike. Specialized carbons feel dead and surgical in a bad way
That skinny lanky guy’s comment was stupid. “ if your tall and under 200 pounds, this is the bike for you” bro not everyone is built like a tree branch! Most dudes over 6ft are over 200 pounds by default! Do yourself a favor and eat a sandwich. There’s no way specialized will spec a size xl frame from the factory for dudes under 200 pounds. That’s BS, I’m around 5’10 at 215 with a six pack.. what does that mean for an average height and built or bigger type of guy?? Are size medium frames set up from the factory for guys under 100 pounds in weight?
First off, congrats on your six pack. I can see it in your shirtless profile picture, and it looks very muscle-y. I've never had what I would consider a six pack, so I respect the effort required. Onto your feedback about the test: I was one of the three bike testers, and I can confirm that I watched Lear eat lots of sandwiches during the week of our bike test, so I don't think his sandwich-eating status is a problem.
Something interesting about the current MTB market is that most full suspension bikes come with the same suspension kinematics and same shock tune for all the size ranges, which means it's very common for stock suspension to be too soft for taller and heavier riders or too firm for shorter and lighter riders. So your complaint might be better directed at mountain bike companies for their limited optimization for different body types. That said, the Specialized rode well for me (under 200 pounds) and for Jonny (over 200 pounds), so maybe it's a non-issue for you. It was just Lear who didn't get along with the Specialized, and again, for distinctly non-sandwich-related reasons.
@@charliesponsel5091 haha you made some good points. I respect your answer. Thanks for the response to my comment and thanks bro, hard work pays off.
Please bring back team robot 😂 that was gold
@@charliesponsel5091 good job on a respectful reply to such an obnoxious and fragile ego. Once he insulted one of you to make himself feel better you should of just told him to f*** off 😂
@@brycon232agreed