"The Dogs of 1980" special - movie reviews - Sneak Previews with Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel

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  • This is "The Dogs of 1980" special episode by Siskel & Ebert on "Sneak Previews" from the end of 1980.
    Movies featured are:
    When Time Ran Out
    Mountain Men
    The Blue Lagoon
    Ffolkes
    Can't Stop the Music
    The Final Countdown
    I Spit On Your Grave

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  • @sdot5389
    @sdot5389 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I love that Gene and Roger could alternately make each other laugh and then drive each other crazy. Once they found their chemistry, it was for the ages. Two smart guys with well informed opinions…sadly missing these days.

  • @vjr4763
    @vjr4763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    What Gene said about disaster movies is exactly what is happening with comic book movies today.

    • @justincoleman3805
      @justincoleman3805 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Every DC movie is a disaster.

    • @hmdwgf
      @hmdwgf ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As movies (for the most part), comic book films today are fairly good but there are so many of them and most of them are remakes of remakes of remakes. It’s corporate cyncism at its worst.

    • @castle3267
      @castle3267 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And what was happening with slashers in the ‘80s

    • @thekingofmovies193
      @thekingofmovies193 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@hmdwgf, much like with Star Wars, I only choose a selected number of superhero movies that I want to watch. It's no big deal to me if I don't watch every movie, there's several other movies that aren't part of a big franchise that deserve a viewing too.

    • @thetimewave
      @thetimewave 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@castle3267 There has always been oversaturated movie genres and fads. Difference was the 80s slasher movies weren't taken seriously and were for the most part low budget. Every single comic movie has huge budgets, are over marketed and billed as the next blockbuster movie. And even with all the money thrown at these comic films, they are mostly mediocre at best.

  • @creeksider248
    @creeksider248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Fresh air and volleyball," LOL! Siskel & Ebert were so much fun to watch back in the day, way better than the movies they reviewed! Thumbs Up!

  • @tomloft2000
    @tomloft2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    thanks to the uploader for putting these on TH-cam.one of my favorite shows on early cable.

  • @jessecoffey4737
    @jessecoffey4737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Of note is that this was their first "Worst of the Year" show; previously the "Dogs of the Year" segment was confined to their year-end "Best of the Year" shows (see their 1978 and 1979 "Best of the Year" installments).
    Other films Gene Siskel hated in 1980 were "The Boogey Man", "New Year's Evil", "Silent Scream", "Friday the 13th", "Why Would I Lie?", "MAD Magazine Presents Up the Academy" (the magazine's staff was in agreement with a lot of the critics-including Gene-regarding that picture, even going as far as mocking it in the October 1980 issue), "Loving Couples", "Guyana: Cult of the Damned", "The Bermuda Triangle", "Wholly Moses!", "The Baltimore Bullet", "The Gong Show Movie", "The Runner Stumbles", "The Nude Bomb", and "Little Miss Marker". (SOURCE: Chicago Tribune, December 29, 1980)

    • @curleed85
      @curleed85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love how Mister Siskel would use his own puns and plays on words, like when he said The Gong Show Movie should have been a “dog-gonged movie.”

  • @maxxxmodelz4061
    @maxxxmodelz4061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can't believe Siskel and Ebert even reviewed I Spit On Your Grave! LOL.

    • @ianfindly3257
      @ianfindly3257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I gotta admit, I found that clip they showed from that one kind of FUNNY, .. . albeit in a SICK kind of way.

    • @xdmaster7888
      @xdmaster7888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They didn't review it for their regular show. I don't even think they mentioned it as one of their Dogs of the Week (something that they did for both CALIGULA and WHEN TIME RAN OUT by comparison). It was released very late in 1980 and presumably they didn't want to give the movie that much attention around the blockbuster holiday releases that year like POPEYE and STIR CRAZY.

  • @prokesuk
    @prokesuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    For me, The Final Countdown is an entertaining, and re-watchable movie. It is also fairly original.

    • @CaptainSpalding72
      @CaptainSpalding72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No its not...

    • @bradforddillman7671
      @bradforddillman7671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Final Countdown is a classic. These guys were off-base with this one

    • @rl1800
      @rl1800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always thought it was a TV movie. Entertaining flick.

    • @xdmaster7888
      @xdmaster7888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roger gave it 2 stars out of 4 in his print review, saying (in so many words) that the film had an interesting premise but didn't do much with it. It stands out in this group because his print reviews for the other films on his naughty list were scathing (what he wrote on I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE is just as damning as his stunned, sickened, angry response to that movie when he names it his worst film of 1980) and The Final Countdown's reads more like a film he'd have given a "thumbs-down, not the worst but doesn't quite work" review on if the movie had been released in 1985 or 1991.

    • @scottmcphee2076
      @scottmcphee2076 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I saw The Final Countdown many years ago. I watched it with a friend who liked movies like Back to the Future and The Time Machine. I didn’t think it was bad.

  • @kingofkings69nerjr90
    @kingofkings69nerjr90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Caligula and I Spit On Your Grave are both in the Top 10 most disturbing movies of all time

  • @kevinpauley-dadbodstyle2935
    @kevinpauley-dadbodstyle2935 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Spot's "MGM" is just amazing! Thanks so much for uploading these!

  • @robatsea2009
    @robatsea2009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Gene's description of Roger Moore playing an espionage agent in WW2 fighting Nazis on a ship in "ffolkes" is an indication he didn't even see the movie as none of that is true. It's a contemporary adventure, they're on an oil rig, the villains are terrorists, and Moore's character is the leader of a counter-terrorism unit.

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I actually watch their original review to see if that mistake did appear in that review. It doesn't. It's obvious that he completely forgot what the movie was about.

    • @Blaqjaqshellaq
      @Blaqjaqshellaq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@patrickshields5251 It's clearly an easy movie to forget about! (It was directed by Andrew V. McLaglen, who also made Joe Don Baker's MST3K classic MITCHELL.)

    • @robatsea2009
      @robatsea2009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Coincidentally both "ffolkes" and "The Sea Wolves" were made by the same director (Andrew V. McLaglen) but "The Sea Wolves" wasn't even released in the US until more than a full year after "ffolkes", so I don't think it can be the cause of Gene's confusion in this instance.

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rosselliswilkinson It's actually called The Sea Wolves.

    • @rickvinson8324
      @rickvinson8324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right. It had nothing to do with WW2 or Nazis. And it wasn't a bad movie, nor was "The Mountain Men". I'd rather see either of those than what I'm sure was Siskel and Ebert's favorite movie for that year, "Raging Bull", which for me should have been called "Raging Boredom".

  • @justinbergmans36
    @justinbergmans36 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One thing I vividly remember is how cool movie advertisements looked in newspapers in the late 70s and eighties. Studios were using artists to draw up action films and horror movie posters.

  • @hawlikd
    @hawlikd ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey, Blue Lagoon was Great! ;-)

    • @sjdrifter72
      @sjdrifter72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      'Paradise' with Phoebe Cates was better. 'Blue Lagoon' used body doubles and was a major bore.

  • @craigowens4629
    @craigowens4629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I saw all these movies as a kid on cable. I saw The Final Countdown around 10x loved it!

  • @charleswinokoor6023
    @charleswinokoor6023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This was their best musical and visual introduction.

    • @shombie2737
      @shombie2737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah -- when they plopped down the popcorn and it spills, and the soda splashes

    • @trfesok
      @trfesok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is the music an original piece?

  • @wheelinthesky300
    @wheelinthesky300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The Final Countdown was a good movie.
    Maybe not original, but highly entertaining.

    • @icemachine79
      @icemachine79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was more of a gimmick than a film. The plot was paper-thin and the characters were one dimensional.

  • @colinwilliams553
    @colinwilliams553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    BOY,Do I miss these two guys.I love it when they give good reviews of movies I love and bad reviews of movies that I REALLY hate.unfortunitly, they sometimes give bad reviews of movies that I like.although to be ho nest, it's always fun to watch these two tear apart a really, REALLY bad movie.R.I.P to both
    GENE SISKEL and ROGER EBERT.

  • @FloraWest
    @FloraWest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Geez, the production values on "When Time Ran Out" makes it look like an episode of "The Six Million Dollar Man" or something.

    • @donaldpaluga
      @donaldpaluga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fun fact-With the $$$ he got doing When Time Ran Out Paul Newman started Newman's Own

    • @FloraWest
      @FloraWest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@donaldpaluga That is great to know!

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donaldpaluga Interesting!

    • @connorbrennan4233
      @connorbrennan4233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More than the production values, it's stunning to me that Irwin Allen failed to evolve with the film industry. Apparently, he couldn't understand why Star Wars was a success.

    • @rl1800
      @rl1800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember they used to show that movie on Showtime in 80-81 constantly.

  • @bijibadness
    @bijibadness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    boy. that one scene with the arm being continuously slammed with the door is fucking _hilarious._ 16:16

    • @philmellor4885
      @philmellor4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shlub who got hired to scare...man, he got a really rough deal.

  • @AngusRockford
    @AngusRockford 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    9:54 Gene gets a dig in at Rex Reed

  • @cliffordshafran9250
    @cliffordshafran9250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1980 did mark the end or close to the end of a few movie trends:
    -Disaster Movies: While "Airplane!" was a terrific parody, the bad box office receipts of the latter day disaster flicks killed that genre. The public realized that these movies were all the same, with only difference being the disasters themselves. -The International Thriller: These movies had ad posters with the bottom filled with international stars. While Gene may've forgotten what Ffolks was all about, he was right when he said that they cared more about the financing than the script.
    -The "Saturday Night Fever" ripoffs-The poor box office receipts of "Can't Stop the Music" and "Xanadu" helped end that trend, though the worst ripoff IMO (The sequel Staying Alive) did pretty well. Of course, the popularity of Disco music also ended in late 1979.
    -Low-grade Kung Fu Bruce Lee ripoffs also nearly ran their course. Only Chuck Norris managed to continue his career awhile longer.
    -Slasher movies had a long way to go before that genre faded away, and it really didn't fade out all that much.

    • @bobrew461
      @bobrew461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The International Thriller is still around: Bourne / Mission Impossible/ even Fast & Furious films are basically retreads of those old movies...

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good points !

    • @MarsofAritia
      @MarsofAritia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heaven's gate pretty much killed the new hollywood movement too

    • @75aces97
      @75aces97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The end of the disaster film might have been the best thing about the 1980s. Unfortunately a few studios insisted on reviving the trend to make terrible disaster movies in the 90s.
      Xanadu, Can't Stop..., and Popeye more or less killed the musical for a few years.

    • @HarbingerOfBattle
      @HarbingerOfBattle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Slashers, as we know them today, were only getting started in 1980. Ever since Texas Chainsaw in 1974 they slowly rose in popularity until 1978 when Halloween hit audiences too close to home. After that everyone was trying to rip it off.

  • @bijibadness
    @bijibadness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    that thing they said about _Airplane!_ effectively killing of the "Disaster" genre actually turned out to be incredibly true.

  • @joefelice5062
    @joefelice5062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    24:25 - Spot steals the show! Look at him peeking around Roger!

  • @mark11967AD
    @mark11967AD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you were 13 years old like I was in 1980 The Blue Lagoon was a very good movie. The Final Countdown was also fun to watch. Like others have said I’ve seen it several times. Still miss the great report between Siskel and Ebert. Two great personas of the 20th Century. Some of their moralizing does seem a bit stodgy and conservative looking back on it, but who doesn’t have faults. Terrific human beings nonetheless.

  • @jessecoffey4737
    @jessecoffey4737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Along with XANADU, one of the movies listed here caused one John J.B. Wilson to form the Golden Raspberry Awards in early 1981. HINT: Roger Ebert starts discussing it at 13:25.

    • @cliffordshafran9250
      @cliffordshafran9250 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lemme guess: It was filmed at the Y-M-C-A! I saw this on VH1 and it was incredibly stupid!

    • @jessecoffey4737
      @jessecoffey4737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cliffordshafran9250 Answer: CAN'T STOP THE MUSIC.

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jessecoffey4737 Siskel and Ebert, Musical Hell, and Cinematic Excrement has already warned me about this movie.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am shocked by some of the past nominees of the GR. Stanley Kubrick for The Shining ? Brian De Palma for Scarface ?

    • @jngr1
      @jngr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickshields5251 Track down the Cinema Snob's review. Those are funny, but his is a lot funnier

  • @genejordan6248
    @genejordan6248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for uploading ... grew up on these shows!

  • @Dunamisdude
    @Dunamisdude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I absolutely love the intro to this show! The best one they ever had :)

  • @maskedmarvyl4774
    @maskedmarvyl4774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Both Siskel and Ebert have separately stated that "I Spit on your Grave" was the most depressing experience they had as movie critics. I haven't seen the film, but have read reviews about it, All of which call it a celebration of sadism against a helpless victim, who then gets revenge on her attackers, one by one; and then the film ends. That's the entire plot.
    Shame on everyone who appeared in that film, especially the actors. It proves the very depressing point that actors will take any job, no matter how personally degrading or humiliating it is. Every actor who turns down a role like this preserves their own dignity and the dignity of actors in general.

    • @madelineb6989
      @madelineb6989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      literally the lead actress got married to the director??? literally all of the actresses have said this role is empowering to them??? literally the entire point of the movie is to show that rape is abhorrent??? all the rapists die??? feminist critics and anti-rape activists have reclaimed the movie for decades??? assault survivors (such as myself) usually find it cathartic??? I promise you, it's well worth a watch and maybe the most honest, critical film about violence against women ever made. highly recommended. I even have a tattoo from it.

  • @DrummerGrrrl
    @DrummerGrrrl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I LOVED "The Final Countdown"! Ok, it WAS dumb, but I did love it.

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, but you have to admit: In the end, NOTHING happens. I remember the theater cheering when they were going to go shoot down the Zeros, then... zero.

    • @xdmaster7888
      @xdmaster7888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Strangely, Roger Ebert's print review of The Final Countdown wasn't that bad. He didn't LIKE the movie per se, and only gave it 2 stars out of 4, but it's a pretty big leap from a two-star rating to placing in on the Worst Of list for a year. If you want to read a review where Roger's loathing of a movie comes through strongly, the zero-stars entry he wrote for I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE will suffice nicely; every word makes it clear he's never seen a movie he hated more than that one.

    • @viennawaits4u36
      @viennawaits4u36 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I would describe "The Final Countdown" more as a Guilty Pleasure than a Turkey.

  • @chrisw6164
    @chrisw6164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There’s a lot of classic stars in these dogs.

  • @TheTerryGene
    @TheTerryGene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Roger Moore has called “ffolkes” (aka “North Sea Hijack”) his favorite role. He has a lot of fun in it. Also, the film had nothing to do with Nazis or World War 2.

  • @cheddarcheese7928
    @cheddarcheese7928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loved that theme song!.I knew when I heard it I was going to see new movies(before the days of VCR's) on my TV set..Sure, it was in 25 second clips but I always got excited for it!

  • @hansjuker8296
    @hansjuker8296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brook shields was gorgeous....14.....but gorgeous

    • @thiscorrosion900
      @thiscorrosion900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      she was even more wholesome in Pretty Baby....lol

  • @tdrewman
    @tdrewman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Blue Lagoon made a ton of money that year.. The Final Countdown was one of my favorites that year.

  • @paulienuti8031
    @paulienuti8031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1980 was 40 years ago Holy Smokes

  • @crystalshaw8744
    @crystalshaw8744 ปีที่แล้ว

    " Laughing and scratching in the wilderness "...lmbo. I love these guys.

  • @TobeyStarburst
    @TobeyStarburst 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Spot is so cute.

    • @williamhowe1
      @williamhowe1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Puppy!

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one is Spot?

  • @ianfindly3257
    @ianfindly3257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I gotta admit, I found that clip they showed from I Spit On Your Grave kind of FUNNY, .. . albeit, in a SICK kind of way.

  • @alexthompson9516
    @alexthompson9516 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Ffolkes," Caligula," and "I Spit On Your Grave" are masterpieces, in my opinion.

    • @darkstarZ74
      @darkstarZ74 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Absolutely correct Sir. Caligula is THE ultimate in swords and sandals big screen enjoyment. I spit on your grave is a masterpiece of revenge. I'm sorry but I never saw Ffolkes.

    • @alexthompson9516
      @alexthompson9516 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@darkstarZ74 The film is otherwise known as "North Sea Hijack." I await your review: th-cam.com/video/k73XxHg_9i4/w-d-xo.html

  • @wanderingspacecritic
    @wanderingspacecritic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great transfer! Audio’s a lil’ soft, but looks good!

  • @James-o7k
    @James-o7k 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This sort of gathering is always hilarious.

  • @ryangreen2469
    @ryangreen2469 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    On the ones I saw...
    When time ran out was a wash out, Irwin Allen had success with 1972 The Poseidon Adventure and 1974 The Towering Inferno, should have left it at that.
    Can't stop the Music, aside from The Village People music, a sheer waste of Panavision filming .
    The Blue Lagoon, in my opinion was OK ,simple story line,but the breathtaking cinematography and the beautiful soundtrack for me made the film.
    The only thing I can say about Caligula-- REPULSIVE !!!

  • @bigbabysld
    @bigbabysld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    yeah, BLUE LAGOON is bad...but it's such a fu**ing guilty pleasure movie for me.

    • @CrimsonUniverse22
      @CrimsonUniverse22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It wasted Brooke Shields’ talent. She could act, as seen in Pretty Baby, which was surprisingly Siskel’s SECOND best movie in all of 1978. Ebert also liked the film, and both lauded Brooke’s performance in that one.
      I guess the director of Blue Lagoon didn’t know how to direct children.

  • @ThomasTalbotMD
    @ThomasTalbotMD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    four of these films had staying power. i loved the final countdown and blue lagoon was hot if a little boring

  • @annielane5621
    @annielane5621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm a big fan of The Blue Lagoon, I think it would of been great if the special addition of the movie on DVD would of included this review, that would of been funny.

  • @TheTerryGene
    @TheTerryGene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The fact that someone saw fit to re-make “I Spit on Your Grave” is a sad commentary on humanity.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At this point, Hollywood will remake ANYTHING that turned a profit.

    • @chipmichaels5197
      @chipmichaels5197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I watched it. Sheer garbage.

    • @stereotypea123
      @stereotypea123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Never underestimate the depravity of men" -Paul Holes, homicide detective

    • @williamhowe1
      @williamhowe1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The remake makes the original look like a masterpiece in comparison. Maybe that was the intention, if so it makes it all the more infuriating.

    • @dr.juerdotitsgo5119
      @dr.juerdotitsgo5119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The original "I Spit..." is an exploitation horror B-movie icon. It is a bit slow-paced though, and it could use more gore, so I guess that's why they remade it. A much more honest endeavor than remaking an universally well-know blockbuster, fucking it up, and cashing in.

  • @filmbuff2777
    @filmbuff2777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm surprised Friday the 13th wasn't listed.

  • @tomh.2405
    @tomh.2405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Linda Ronstadt song was a nice touch.

  • @CMDRScotty
    @CMDRScotty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked the final countdown it's a great what-if.

  • @ReverendBenzo
    @ReverendBenzo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When the Budget Ran Out.

  • @scottaznavourian5791
    @scottaznavourian5791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sad this was one of if not the last william holden film

    • @orbyfan
      @orbyfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "S.O.B." was his last, and came out shortly before his death in 1981.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gracias!@@orbyfan

  • @eargasm1072
    @eargasm1072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "Can't Stop the Music" was the first movie I saw in the theater as a boy in which I thought to myself "now this is a really lousy movie"!

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It helps to be aggressively gay when watching it.

    • @rosario508
      @rosario508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      While not the first movie I saw I had a similar experience with Star Trek: The Motion Picture. I was ten years old when I saw it and thought “Wow! What a boring piece of shit!”

    • @sha11235
      @sha11235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hope that didn't stop you from seeing films in theaters.

    • @mjgyrosdude484
      @mjgyrosdude484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HC-cb4yp pervert!

    • @thetimewave
      @thetimewave 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rosario508 As a 10 year old, not understanding the backdrop to the 1st Trek movie, I can easily understand how it would be boring. Seeing it as an adult and understanding how amazing it was to see the cast board the Enterprise for the first time in several years, it was a magical experience.

  • @suedenim
    @suedenim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's interesting to realize that the "international thriller" is now extinct. Or what Ebert later referred to with the Box Rule:
    Box Rule: Useful rule-of-thumb about movie advertisements that have a row of little boxes across the bottom, each one showing the face of a different international star and the name of a character (e.g., “Curt Jurgens as the Commandant”). The rule is: Automatically avoid such films.

    • @RollingOrmond
      @RollingOrmond 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some still exist. Jon Hamm in Beirut was pretty good.

    • @cliffordshafran9250
      @cliffordshafran9250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Such movies were more prevalent throughout the 1970's. Almost all of them were agressively advertised package deals and not real movies.

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cliffordshafran9250 Some of these movies were based on books, but I'm starting to think that these studios were making these movies to exploit these source materials.

    • @bobrew461
      @bobrew461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Extinct??? You have your head in the clouds! What about those god-awful Mission Impossible movies they keep churning out? I hate Simon Pegg!!

  • @kingofkings69ner
    @kingofkings69ner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Two movies I have and will NEVER watch is Caligula and I Spit On Your Grave

  • @SB992REBORN
    @SB992REBORN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best line in this review: "peekaboo with sex"

  • @markelijio6012
    @markelijio6012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me, The Blue Lagoon is an entertaining and watchable movie. It is also fairly original.

  • @griffinnunnelee7236
    @griffinnunnelee7236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It seems like they disregarded any film that had any sort of “exploitation” in it without acknowledging the redeeming elements they had. The film Caligula may not have had a great script, but the acting, set design, and overall directing was honestly top notch. It has a lot of graphic sex and gore, but the whole theme of the film was about the perversion of the Roman Empire, so it’s not really out of place.

  • @75aces97
    @75aces97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every year has terrible movies, but these were so surreally bad, it's interesting to watch this. How many directors and studio heads would have been sober for 3 consecutive hours in a day in 1980?

  • @neilevans8204
    @neilevans8204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Siskel and Ebert obviously didn't see The Apple, did they?

    • @jessecoffey4737
      @jessecoffey4737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not only was it not screened for critics (aside from those who attended the 1980 Montreal World Film Festival), it did not even play in Chicago, where an October 1980 release date listed by Wikipedia is not corroborated by anything I could find in the Tribune archives.

    • @57buickcentury
      @57buickcentury 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessecoffey4737 It was shown at the 1980 Chicago International Film Festival; maybe the response there killed hopes of a release.

  • @chrishayes4323
    @chrishayes4323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also like in a 1950's movie, Charlton Heston was still a complete ham of an actor.

  • @johnfitzpatrick3094
    @johnfitzpatrick3094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1980 must have been a pretty bad year when their worst of lists don't include Friday the 13th and Heaven's Gate.

    • @jessecoffey4737
      @jessecoffey4737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm guessing they thought that *Friday the 13th* was too typical a slasher movie to be put there. As for *Heaven's Gate,* that was on their Dogs of 1981 show, and that got uploaded separately by the same user.

    • @johnfitzpatrick3094
      @johnfitzpatrick3094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jessecoffey4737 You're probably right about Friday the 13th. I saw the Heaven's Gate part after I wrote this. I always think of Heaven's Gate as 1980.

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnfitzpatrick3094 Heaven's Gate killed off the era of autuer driven Hollywood productions, which inadvertently kept Hollywood's blockbuster culture going.

    • @johnfitzpatrick3094
      @johnfitzpatrick3094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@patrickshields5251 I agree. I remember Francis Coppola called the 70's as the inmates taking over the insane asylum, and the 80's as the studios taking the asylum back.

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@johnfitzpatrick3094 Speaking of Hollywood's blockbuster culture, Siskel and Ebert actually predicted this in their year end show for 1978 that the blockbusters are crowding out the smaller films. They could never be more right because now where getting so many super hero films. So not much has changed after they died.

  • @sotheresthat7882
    @sotheresthat7882 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t believe they didn’t like The Final Countdown; seems like a movie that Roger would love, at least.

  • @APieceofPeace2022
    @APieceofPeace2022 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Final Countdown was awesome!

  • @maxthepupp
    @maxthepupp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Noooo! I actually really liked Ffolks.

  • @CulainRuledByVenus
    @CulainRuledByVenus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:11 For a while, Roger, yes. For a while. But the 90s are waiting patiently to dunk our heads in it like never before...

  • @Conquerkingfitness
    @Conquerkingfitness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im surprised HBO didnt reboot CALIGULA...oh wait...GAME OF THRONES??

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about "Rome"?

    • @donaldpaluga
      @donaldpaluga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reneedennis2011 Spartacus

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@donaldpaluga Yup. That show, too.

  • @lw3646
    @lw3646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sadly I disagree with their comments about audiences being disappointed about getting the same old film over and over again. For a lot of the audience it's what they want, they know what they're getting, studios are less likely to take risks when they can just play it safe. Audiences though often know when they've seem something special.

  • @VikiMarot
    @VikiMarot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a movie from 1980 I always loved. Was worried that it would be here. It wasn't. Yay.

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What movie is that? Just curious.

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And that movie was.........................?

    • @gpwerner
      @gpwerner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bon Voyage, Charlie Brown?

  • @sha11235
    @sha11235 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many of these do you remember? I remember some from Roger's reviews in his Companions.

  • @eargasm1072
    @eargasm1072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Blue Lagoon" and "Can't Stop the Music", two of the biggest all-time turkeys

  • @Raidmasterprod
    @Raidmasterprod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:34 Gene Siskel clearly explains the reason why I am starting to wean off of Marvel films. The Marvel Cinematic Universe that has its share of great movies, but after TWENTY FOUR FILMS I shouldn’t be the only one to notice a basic plot formula these movies follow. You might know what I’m talking about.

    • @JessicaChastainFan
      @JessicaChastainFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That also means they were NEVER good to begin with. All 25+ movies have aged terribly after one viewing or a year. They will never stand the test of time like Superman 1978 and Batman 1989.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only good Marvel film is Iron Man.

  • @brianmccallister1765
    @brianmccallister1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I grew up watching these guys, and- as a fan of cheesy horror- often laughed a bit at their squeamishness, but what’s interesting rewatching their reviews is that they actually are self-appointed moralists as much as they are film critics, which seems very unacademic in retrospect. They come across as genuinely concerned about America’s consumption of low-brow entertainment and its long-term effects on our culture and psyche, like amateur sociologists. Seems quaint but also kind of cute that they cared.

    • @newwavepop
      @newwavepop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i always found it a bit obnoxious, their pearl clutching and their snobbishness. just critique the movie dont go get all high and mighty and be outraged or indignant over films. its what bothered me most about the show for all those years. i didnt care that they didnt like a lot of my favorite fims or gave them bad ratings, but when they would start preaching and like i said acting all indignant ugh.

    • @brianmcmanus4690
      @brianmcmanus4690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ironic considering Ebert is an OG purveyor of Hollywood B movie softcore trash i.e. Valley of the Dolls, etc. Fuckin' hypocrite.

  • @SomeHarbourBastard
    @SomeHarbourBastard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    “The Final Countdown” was good

  • @HarbingerOfBattle
    @HarbingerOfBattle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blue Lagoon was one of the movies of all time.

  • @luisvaldes1568
    @luisvaldes1568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't believe this was 39 years ago.

  • @NewsHistorian
    @NewsHistorian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ffolkes takes place during World War II with helicopters, oil platforms and a Margaret Thatcher type Prime Minister?!?
    Did they even see the film? This beats calling Time After Time a comedy featuring Jack the Ripper. These guys were really dense.

  • @crystalshaw8744
    @crystalshaw8744 ปีที่แล้ว

    The clips were as long as the movie...smile

  • @PaulSmith-qs1es
    @PaulSmith-qs1es 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the main problem with Caligula is that the screenplay is diametrically opposed to the purposes of the film. The film makes a big point about showing all the pornography, but the screenplay is focused up on how such prurience is evil. So, how can you enjoy the pornography while being told that you are wicked for enjoying it? They should have maybe adapted a specific classical work with erotic elements like the Golden Ass, or Satyricon, or Daphnis and Chloe instead. (though I suppose Daphnis and Chloe is a bit close to the material in Blue Lagoon, so the critics wouldn't have like that either.)

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen the R-rated version of Calígula, and it's just as lot of nudity. It was so silly!

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Smith "It's not good art, it's not good filmmaking, and it's not good porn."--Roger Ebert re: Caligula

  • @Orangeflava
    @Orangeflava 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to include the movie “Windows” on your description list

  • @brianforbes8325
    @brianforbes8325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought "Ffolkes" had potential as a thriller with an interesting premise, and Roger Moore's character was interesting in that he despised women - the exact opposite of James Bond. Yes, it was overdone with some poor acting, but Siskel and Ebert trashed it more than it deserved.

  • @wordman3624
    @wordman3624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked ffolkes. It was a good thriller. Also, I think Gene was wrong when he said it took place during WWII. IIRC, it took place during the present day of 1979/1980.

    • @connorbrennan4233
      @connorbrennan4233 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe because the film is simply so forgettable and that's why he got it wrong.

    • @wordman3624
      @wordman3624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@connorbrennan4233 Or maybe he saw so many films that year that he forgot the details. I mean, ffolkes is not the greatest movie ever made to be sure, but I don't think it's the flop that Siskel and Ebert were making it out to be.

  • @crystalshaw8744
    @crystalshaw8744 ปีที่แล้ว

    My husband went to a bachelor party back in the day and one of the guys bought the movie Caligula.

  • @maskedmarvyl4774
    @maskedmarvyl4774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Irwin Allen was a cartoon caricature of a producer. His behavior was so obnoxious and off-putting, that he wound up ruining his own productions, which were already pretty schlocky (Time Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Lost in Space). These three series were successful in spite of Irwin, not because of him, and he wound up getting all three series canceled within six months of each other and getting kicked off the studio lot because of his behavior.

  • @connorbrennan4233
    @connorbrennan4233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I Spit On Your Grave is probably the most despicable film I've ever seen. And I haven't seen The Human Centipede films or A Serbian Film.

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard A Serbian Film is sick!🤮

    • @mousiespanks2379
      @mousiespanks2379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In I Spit on Your Grave the woman got her revenge and you could come away cheering for her. If you want disgusting take a shower afterwards try Watching August Undergrounds Morden in its entirety.

    • @dr.juerdotitsgo5119
      @dr.juerdotitsgo5119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you understand the concept of 70's exploitation movies, there's nothing truly despicable about I Spit on Your Grave. Even the rape scenes in movies like Death Wish 2 feel more impactful. A Serbian Film is bullshit, "look at me, I'm so shocking!".

    • @connorbrennan4233
      @connorbrennan4233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mousiespanks2379 I understand the catharthis factor, but I think what sickened me was that the men who committed the r*pe had more screentime than the woman (at least that's what I remember) and the r*pe scenes went on for so long, that it felt like the film went overkill in trying to show how sick they were. Apparently, the director wanted this to be an anti-r*pe film, but stuff like what I mentioned made me question what the film's real priorities were.

  • @popick86
    @popick86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this in 2021 and still fascinated by their critique of such garbage :)

  • @Ken_Scaletta
    @Ken_Scaletta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Caligula is one of my all time favorite movies. There's a good movie there in between the porn and Malcolm McDowell was awesome.

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "It's not good art, it's not good filmmaking, and it's not good porn."--Roger Ebert on Caligula

    • @Ken_Scaletta
      @Ken_Scaletta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidl570 I think he's right about the porn, but there's a good movie in between the porn and it's actually accurate, or at least is faithful to Suetonius.

  • @rtrout57
    @rtrout57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the guys in "Can't Stop The Music" looks like Caitlin Jenner.

    • @littlekingtrashmouth9219
      @littlekingtrashmouth9219 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the reverse of living under a rock (unless you’re sarcastic).

  • @crystalshaw8744
    @crystalshaw8744 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now my love our only memory will be of me gently slamming that intruders hand in the door. Ahh memories.

  • @crystalshaw8744
    @crystalshaw8744 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were these at movie theaters!?

  • @BuckyNugget
    @BuckyNugget 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought The Final Countdown was pretty cool as a kid!

  • @xdmaster7888
    @xdmaster7888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First off, Sisk & Eb found 1980 to be a truly horrible year the movies. Hell, several films that one or both of them gave ZERO STARS to didn't make the worst-of list: MOTHER'S DAY, THE EXTERMINATOR, and GUYANA: CULT OF THE DAMNED. Also, they only left FRIDAY THE 13TH off the list because they had other horror films to focus on, and hated Charlton Heston's THE AWAKENING as much as THE MOUNTAIN MEN (again, they didn't want to overdo the horror/slasher film coverage).Second...the look on Roger's face as he finishes watching that horrible clip from I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE is genuinely unsettling in how sickened and shocked he is. And the line where he says "The people who made this film should really be ashamed of themselves, and so should the people who booked it and the people who went to see it. It's really an inhuman, sick film", highlights all the ways that he's the GOAT film critic.

    • @dr.juerdotitsgo5119
      @dr.juerdotitsgo5119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullshit. Mother's Day, Exterminator, I Spit on Your Grave... these are all exploitation/B-movie cult classics. Films like these shouldn't be approached as if they were some self-important hollywood drama with a "message". As for Charlton Heston, I don't have to tell you what jewish liberals thought of him and his movies back then, and it is no coincidence that they relentlessly targeted Stallone, Selleck and Reynolds next.

  • @viennawaits4u36
    @viennawaits4u36 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I first saw "The Blue Lagoon" on cable in 1981 while I was still in JH, and instantly had a crush on Brooke Shields. So, needless to say I was a big fan of the movie at the time. But, then I re-watched it 12-years later and was laughing at how bad the writing and acting was, especially from Chris Atkins. Plus, Brooke Shields was only 15 at the time, and she's half-naked the entire movie. Which makes the film not only bad, but bad in a creepy kind of way. Something I didn't understand when I was still in JH.

  • @supercoolbrian
    @supercoolbrian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Apple didn't make it on this list? Must have been a really bad year.

  • @icemachine79
    @icemachine79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:49 Oops, probably should've chosen a different clip lol.

  • @felicciasc
    @felicciasc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Krusty the Klown in "The Blue Haired Goon" is better than the Blue Lagoon.

  • @xppp3021
    @xppp3021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For you young people I'll tell you that 80- 81 -82 was full of fantasy movies like Dragonslayer /Legend/ Xanadu/ The dark Crystal ....the blue lagoon was just a fantasy ! so when he said it's not realistic ......of course not😝

    • @75aces97
      @75aces97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Blue Lagoon was on a lot of critics' worst lists, but not just because it wasn't realistic. Brooke Shields was like 15 at the time, so if it was legal in 1980, it soon wouldn't have been. I didn't know it was packaged as something wholesome like they say here, but that would explain why some people found it appalling.

    • @CaptainSpalding72
      @CaptainSpalding72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Legend came out in 1985.

    • @timbuk1126
      @timbuk1126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clash of the Titans and Beastmaster too!

  • @Winnipegger
    @Winnipegger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't Siskel & Ebert realize that by giving these films any publicity audiences would be rushing out to see it? This is why I Spit on Your Grave found an audience.

    • @patcrites5274
      @patcrites5274 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did, but I think that the people who watches this show can decide whether they want to go see them or not. I think that Siskel & Ebert onky gave their opinions on new movies to the viewing audience

  • @ezequielgomez7083
    @ezequielgomez7083 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I enjoy When Time Ran Out and The Blue Lagoon is not a bad flim on my opinion

  • @chrisrowl5001
    @chrisrowl5001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The blue lagoon was my first porno 👍🏼

  • @newwavepop
    @newwavepop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i know they didnt like "The Final Countdown" i have actually seen their review of it not too long ago, but seriously the worst of the year. its no masterpiece but ive always liked it and found the concept really interesting.

  • @bobrew461
    @bobrew461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24:30
    You thought that was bad? They made TWO sequels!!!