Wow!! That 5th movement is remarkable!! I've listened to it many times and I'm finally hearing how the melodies make music rather than just appealing noise. You really have to train your ear. You have to listen many times to hear the synergy between the instruments. There is terse atonality and grating dissonance, yes, but it is not random! There is virtuosity in the pounding madness! Bartok really was a daring innovator. I'm definitelt starting to appreciate his genius a lot. These guys are stunning musicians!! Ok, now on to the Miraculous Mandarin!! And then on to Charles Ives, Symphony No. 4! Lord Jesus give me strength!!
Gyorgy Sandor, his student, once said to my orchestra that it was a mistake to think of Bartok as atonal. "He was VERY tonal. With lots of extra notes. Like paprika!"
Absolutely the most cutting edge string quartets since Beethoven’s, and this last was composed near the end of Bartók’s life. A definitive performance for sure❤
A rich feast of agreeable dissonances. The great amount of effects overwhelms me. It's somehow so gratifying to my ears and brain! A stunning masterpiece.
I’ve listened to this a few times now. Looking at the score and listening, and watching them perform it. I find it way easier to listen as I watch them perform. It’s way less chaotic when you see the bows in sync. You see and hear the full intention of the composer. Loses it’s randomness. Does that make sense? Pretty amazing musicianship. Love watching masters play.
I agree there is something that clicks when you get to see the performance. I've listened to recordings of this piece dozens of times, but being able to watch the music being made opened up a new world of discovery for me. Thanks for sharing that. I also wonder how much was the fact that this is an excellent performance and recording, perhaps the most exciting I've encountered. Also, I agree with Timothy Brittain's statement below, though it was said in a way that closes down communication and reenforces the some of the false narrative that you have to study this music and 'understand' the logic, musicality, and glorious economy of Bartok's compositional approach in order to enjoy the fuck out of it.
This quartet has always been a favorite of mine. Until seeing this performance I'd only ever heard audio recordings, and kind of forgot about it during the years of family-raising. It's wonderful to hear it again. While I never felt there was anything the least bit random about it - to me it's structurally very tight, which is what made me fall in love with it - the visual experience is certainly enriching.
I really love how Bartok pushes dynamics, texture, timbre and rhythm in these later quartets. Somebody mentioned rock n' roll in the comments. That last movement just comes out guns firing. It's so great. Bartok- not afraid to offend your ears.
My favourite Bartok string quartet. This is an excellent performance not just technically but it has a visceral energy which this group brings to it. Bravi.
Le Quatuor Ebène est extraordinaire. Il nous emporte dans une dimension inconnue et merveilleuse. Je ne sais pas comment ils font pour jouer cette musique si difficile. C'est du très grand Art. Quant à Bartok, tout qualificatif est superflu. On écoute et on part en voyage.
Génial Bartók!! Un des plus beau quatuors de l'histoire! Les deuxième et troisième mouvements me collent des frissons.. Très belle prestation du Quatuor Ebène. Bravissimo!
This is absolutely one of the finest pieces of the 20th century. There's such a sense of tension in the primal rhythm, and the use of cluster harmonies gives that "stabbing" effect that you hear in horror scores from Psycho onwards. Of course, there's more than just scares here: the third movement is eerie and beautiful, and the final movement is propulsive in a way that wouldn't be matched in music until the arrival of hard rock.
It’s no coincidence that Miles Davis, John McLaughlin and Robert Fripp were all fans of Bartok. His stuff had the dark edginess you find in the blues and flamenco.
Usually, I find pieces like this to be extremely jarring and frankly too uncomfortable to listen to, but it's done so well here. There's still so much beauty in it that the harshness and atonality is able to be intriguing rather than off putting
Bartok himself said that with this quartet he wanted (also) to demonstrate to Schoenberg that it was possible to write music with all 12 tones without being atonal. this quartet is strongly rooted in C, but it' also highly chromatic (especially the first half) - it is technicalyy very interesting to see how he treated the matherial, I found especially revealing the third movement. The interest and force of the piece are obviously beyond mere technical questions...
@@michelrenard500 the first notes you hear are basically a spectrum of the low C (IV cello string)... :) the last ones of both the quartet and first movement are only Cs in different octaves, preceded by E/G/Eb and a Db as passing tone - basically a mixed major/minor chor with a phrigian flavour due to the passing tone. Not atonal at all :) very chromatic, but extremely choerent in its harmonic and motvic organization :)
Spirited is right. And commanding. I couldn't NOT listen. I was intrigued. The blends of dissonances so excitingly delivered. I was moist eyed myself when the lads took their... what was it... their 3rd bow? They are a spirited and creative force in the world as the audience clearly indicated.
I like. The atonality in this is less jarring than the dissonance found in some tonal pieces; not that jarring is automatically bad. A consistency of chaos can be relaxing, and nice for the imagination.
Bravo! Wonderful performance of my favorite Bartok piece. My favorite movement is "Allegro molto", it's incredible that it was written in 1928, so ahead its time it sounds like Progressive Rock with all that energy and complexity. It looks like the musicians were really getting into it, bet their instruments were out of tune afterwards. I'm working on a Progressive Rock version of this movement with synthesizers, drums and electric bass like Emerson, Lake and Palmer. It's slow going transcribing this complex piece to keyboards but sounds good so far, I have completed it to bar 75. Cheers
I'm wondering if we have Woody Allen's Melinda and Melinda to thank for the 234K views on this music? It's the fourth movement, the one with pizzicato, that was used in the movie for the depressed Melinda's attempt at "self-deletion"
True story. I had a girl over, and remembering a scene from a Woody Allen movie and feeling mischievous, I threw this on the turntable (this was some years ago). And she said: "This sounds like the kind of music on public television when they have those plays that don't make no sense."
I am playing this piece relatively loud and my dog is completely relaxed and chillen. I wonder if the dissonance actually affects animals like humans. I find it relaxing sometimes and also the opposite sometimes. What a genius
My puppy seems very intrigued, as she keeps jumping onto the couch near me and crashing her neck to observe what is happening. She always come back to me when she realizes that what she hears is coming from the desk, so she obviously recognizes something! :)
Ben Mackenzie Great observation! I'm an old King Crimson fan and I think you're right. I hear the influence. Fripp and the band were classically influenced, so it's a definite possibility. Good ear!
Yes - it is a challenging work and though the performers surmount the challenges it remains difficult for an audience who has not quite absorbed the idiom. May I suggest trying the Vision Quartet in nos. 5 and 3 (they have not yet done 4 on youtube). I don't say they are superior but the visual interplay of 4 young musicians without scores really helps us to follow the patterns of the music and their possible implications. Then we can return to No. 4 with newly awakened ears.
Does anyone else hear the similarities in the fourth movements first motif/theme with the main theme of the first movement of ravels sonata for violin and cello ?
Most recordings I've seen don't include a key signature in the title of this quartet. So let's cut the OP some slack. But if you cats who've looked at the score say it's so, I believe you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bartok often present two conflicting tonalities? What do they call it, bi-tonality, or something like that? If I'm right about that, tell me about that concept, with regard to this work. I love picking the brains of music theory nerds :D
This is probaby the "best" of the six quartets of Bartok - the Everest in Himalaya. The technique of writing is rather obvious when hearing carefully. It is the solidity of the building, its symmetry and asymarty which makes it the materwork of six masterworks.
It is. It's so beautiful and ugly and menacing and spiritual all at once. And it really exploits the limits of what strings can do like no other quartet.
I promise to try more with Bartoks String quartets. Ten listenings is the first step. This first listening I just look at the first violinists feet and try to count how many times he moves them.
Today is my tenth listing. And even if I can say I have become more familiar with this music, and sort of understand how it goes, I cannot say that this is my music. Sorry, it sometimes seems that this is the highest music of all. If it is so, then I can only say I am not at the same level. I like a lot of music, but not so much Bartok String Quartet no 4. After ten listenings.
The Bartok I like the most is his Romanian Folk Songs in different versions. But of course, these he has not composed, just translated to classical music.
Whether you like them or not, most people will agree that the string quartets of Bartok are interesting, original, and challenging. It certainly seems that all the commentators here are trying to rise to the challenges, and very civilly, too, for the most part. I am curious to know what any of you think about BartholomeyBittmann, a new string duo (cello and violin/mandola) from Vienna who play music of their own composition. I won't prejudice things by saying any more, but if you do have time to listen and comment I'm sure I will find it interesting.
Totally silly to say that this piece (or any Bartók piece) is in "C-major." It's not. He simply doesn't use a key signature on almost all of his pieces because it's irrelevant to highly chromatic music. Wonderful performance, though!
The 4th movement is a delightful freak. As a break from expectation it is dazzling. I enjoy good pizzicato at times, and it is never better than this. Elsewhere, when it is used to punctuate another player's bowing, it can be truly powerful. I could do without the strumming, however. That's just my taste. Leave strumming to ukuleles.
The 4° quartet of Bartok is probably one of his top masterworks, togather with the music for strings, percussion and celesta and the sonata for two pianos and percussion. The key of C major is questionable, even in his tonal system as developed by the musicologist Lendvaï. The 4° and the 5° quarttets follow a symetric plan in five movements, with contrasts ensuring the progression of the music, for instance here chromatism/diatonism for the 3° and 4° movements.
Music is always abstract, i.e. non-representational. That's the very nature of the medium. If anything, avant-gardism can feel more concrete, as it attempts to include "noise" and other sounds that arise in lived environments - into melodies that would otherwise have no direct worldly reference.
@@otherwords1375 Damn, never thought of it that way. Like how major and minor keys are only happy and sad due to cultural influence rather than intrinsic representation.
My man straight up made Boss Battle music, way before videogames existed, what a legend
Uematsu must have really dug this stuff
11:24 the lick
radiorelojdespertador . If only I was paying more attention, I would've noticed that while I was listening to this earlier!
I just can't believe it......
its a very common lick played by jazz players. search "the jazz lick" on yt
LOL, perfect.
go back to whatever adam neely video you came from
It's pretty impressive that a quartet of Bartok would get 135,000 views.
What about 233 thousand views?
What an absolute banger of a performance!
I love how much the first violinist is feeling it
So tight! That fifth movement is rock n’ roll. My favourite Bartok quartet. Thanks for sharing this wonderful performance.
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I've always said that. If only people who dislike classical music, but liked hard rock, were aware of String Quartet 4, V
I love dancing to this.
Cool
II: 7:00
III: 10:14
IV: 16:31
V: 19:49
ends at 25:05
Could you please include timestamp for when the first movement starts, thnkx
@@firiel2366 you cant wait 4 seconds? sheesh
@@sneddypie 4 seconds is too long tho-
Merci beaucoup !
@@mateopersaudezI always listen to the first four seconds at 2x #lifehack
Wow!! That 5th movement is remarkable!! I've listened to it many times and I'm finally hearing how the melodies make music rather than just appealing noise. You really have to train your ear. You have to listen many times to hear the synergy between the instruments. There is terse atonality and grating dissonance, yes, but it is not random! There is virtuosity in the pounding madness! Bartok really was a daring innovator. I'm definitelt starting to appreciate his genius a lot. These guys are stunning musicians!! Ok, now on to the Miraculous Mandarin!! And then on to Charles Ives, Symphony No. 4! Lord Jesus give me strength!!
Gyorgy Sandor, his student, once said to my orchestra that it was a mistake to think of Bartok as atonal. "He was VERY tonal. With lots of extra notes. Like paprika!"
@@RModillo yes, excellent 👏 and so true!
Absolutely the most cutting edge string quartets since Beethoven’s, and this last was composed near the end of Bartók’s life. A definitive performance for sure❤
I think you must be referring to the 6th quartet, which was composed near the end of his life.
0:00 1st Movement
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13:20 page 34-35
16:30 4th Movement
19:50 5th Movement
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24:09 page 62
A rich feast of agreeable dissonances. The great amount of effects overwhelms me. It's somehow so gratifying to my ears and brain! A stunning masterpiece.
Fucking idiot.
@@reginaldmolethrasher437 IMO you are speaking of yourself.
@@RichardASalisbury1 Nah he gets is
This is incredibly wonderful music, written so many years ago. Bartok was years ahead of his time.
I’ve listened to this a few times now. Looking at the score and listening, and watching them perform it. I find it way easier to listen as I watch them perform. It’s way less chaotic when you see the bows in sync. You see and hear the full intention of the composer. Loses it’s randomness. Does that make sense?
Pretty amazing musicianship. Love watching masters play.
There is NO randomness to this piece; only someone's not understanding.
I agree there is something that clicks when you get to see the performance. I've listened to recordings of this piece dozens of times, but being able to watch the music being made opened up a new world of discovery for me. Thanks for sharing that. I also wonder how much was the fact that this is an excellent performance and recording, perhaps the most exciting I've encountered. Also, I agree with Timothy Brittain's statement below, though it was said in a way that closes down communication and reenforces the some of the false narrative that you have to study this music and 'understand' the logic, musicality, and glorious economy of Bartok's compositional approach in order to enjoy the fuck out of it.
This quartet has always been a favorite of mine. Until seeing this performance I'd only ever heard audio recordings, and kind of forgot about it during the years of family-raising. It's wonderful to hear it again.
While I never felt there was anything the least bit random about it - to me it's structurally very tight, which is what made me fall in love with it - the visual experience is certainly enriching.
Bravo! Incredible, a must for any music lover even if not an avid Bartok fan.
I really love how Bartok pushes dynamics, texture, timbre and rhythm in these later quartets. Somebody mentioned rock n' roll in the comments. That last movement just comes out guns firing. It's so great. Bartok- not afraid to offend your ears.
My god the tone from these instruments is incredible! Bravo!
My favourite Bartok string quartet. This is an excellent performance not just technically but it has a visceral energy which this group brings to it. Bravi.
la musique de bartok , toujours plus fascinante , envoûtante , merci aux musiciens qui font ressortir l alchimie de cette partition complexe ,,
8:30 page 25
10:15 page 31
13:20 page 34-35
16:30 (mvmt 4)
19:50 (mvmt 5)
21:46 page 52 (last system)
24:09 page 62
Le Quatuor Ebène est extraordinaire. Il nous emporte dans une dimension inconnue et merveilleuse. Je ne sais pas comment ils font pour jouer cette musique si difficile. C'est du très grand Art. Quant à Bartok, tout qualificatif est superflu. On écoute et on part en voyage.
❤ Fabuleux ! Bravissimo
And the performers......amazing!
Energetic performance. Bartok was a genius before his time.
08:48 *aggressive page flipping intensifies*
the most impressive page turn I've ever seen
and at 22:52 :DD lmao the page flips are so intense tho
This V… wow ❤️ love the energy
It's been quite a while since I've been so engaged by a piece of music. Very well done!
Bravo. Jazzy riffs and funky grooves
Perfect playing and Perfect Reverb!
Best version I have ever heard
Génial Bartók!! Un des plus beau quatuors de l'histoire! Les deuxième et troisième mouvements me collent des frissons.. Très belle prestation du Quatuor Ebène. Bravissimo!
Nice energetic performance. Full of attack and emotion.
This is absolutely one of the finest pieces of the 20th century. There's such a sense of tension in the primal rhythm, and the use of cluster harmonies gives that "stabbing" effect that you hear in horror scores from Psycho onwards. Of course, there's more than just scares here: the third movement is eerie and beautiful, and the final movement is propulsive in a way that wouldn't be matched in music until the arrival of hard rock.
It’s no coincidence that Miles Davis, John McLaughlin and Robert Fripp were all fans of Bartok. His stuff had the dark edginess you find in the blues and flamenco.
@@danielschaeffer1294 Indeed. Bartok's string quartets are genuine treasure.
Truly Bartok is the heir to Beethoven string quartet composing. Wonderful performance.
superb performance Thank you
Usually, I find pieces like this to be extremely jarring and frankly too uncomfortable to listen to, but it's done so well here. There's still so much beauty in it that the harshness and atonality is able to be intriguing rather than off putting
not atonal
@@sneddypie it is not clear. Probably atonal for me.
Bartok himself said that with this quartet he wanted (also) to demonstrate to Schoenberg that it was possible to write music with all 12 tones without being atonal. this quartet is strongly rooted in C, but it' also highly chromatic (especially the first half) - it is technicalyy very interesting to see how he treated the matherial, I found especially revealing the third movement. The interest and force of the piece are obviously beyond mere technical questions...
@@michelrenard500 the first notes you hear are basically a spectrum of the low C (IV cello string)... :) the last ones of both the quartet and first movement are only Cs in different octaves, preceded by E/G/Eb and a Db as passing tone - basically a mixed major/minor chor with a phrigian flavour due to the passing tone. Not atonal at all :) very chromatic, but extremely choerent in its harmonic and motvic organization :)
A very musical performance.
Spirited is right. And commanding. I couldn't NOT listen. I was intrigued. The blends of dissonances so excitingly delivered.
I was moist eyed myself when the lads took their... what was it... their 3rd bow? They are a spirited and creative force in the world as the audience clearly indicated.
Twat.
@@reginaldmolethrasher437 wow, harsh
Amazing!!!!
Very nice performance. Lots of energy.
I like. The atonality in this is less jarring than the dissonance found in some tonal pieces; not that jarring is automatically bad. A consistency of chaos can be relaxing, and nice for the imagination.
bravo!! amazing played, guys
00:00 - I. Allegro
06:57 - II. Prestissimo, con sordino
10:12 - III. Non troppo lento
16:30 - IV. Allegretto pizzicato
19:48 - V. Allegro molto
Ooooo
Thanks a lot 😍
very good presentation!
Wonderfull... incredible power and spirit! I perfer definitivly all the reccent styl classique... really! Thanks for this sharing.
Excellent performance. Thanks so much for posting this! The second movement of the 4th goes through my head so often.
mine too!
Thanks for commenting Matthew. It's great to hear from someone who likes these quartets so much.
Indeed. It’s so elusive and yet so busy. Bartok was a sound magician.
Remarquable! Interprétation de haut rang! Merci.
Amazing performance of one of my favourite pieces of music. Thank you.....
This is a fantastic performance of a thorny piece. Right up there with the Belcea String Quartet, in my view!
Bravo! Wonderful performance of my favorite Bartok piece. My favorite movement is "Allegro molto", it's incredible that it was written in 1928, so ahead its time it sounds like Progressive Rock with all that energy and complexity. It looks like the musicians were really getting into it, bet their instruments were out of tune afterwards. I'm working on a Progressive Rock version of this movement with synthesizers, drums and electric bass like Emerson, Lake and Palmer. It's slow going transcribing this complex piece to keyboards but sounds good so far, I have completed it to bar 75. Cheers
Thanks for posting this. I have had to persevere a bit with this work, but watching a live performance helps a lot.
Very nice rendition !
Thanks
The movement of their feet.........amazing
can't stop watching this
lol
I'm wondering if we have Woody Allen's Melinda and Melinda to thank for the 234K views on this music? It's the fourth movement, the one with pizzicato, that was used in the movie for the depressed Melinda's attempt at "self-deletion"
True story. I had a girl over, and remembering a scene from a Woody Allen movie and feeling mischievous, I threw this on the turntable (this was some years ago). And she said: "This sounds like the kind of music on public television when they have those plays that don't make no sense."
The lick at 11:20
Excelente trabajo
Sounds like desperation, dread. Wonderful
If I was ever to like Bartok, this would be the performance. These guys are so good. If you haven't heard their Ravel SQ, do yourself a favor...
I am playing this piece relatively loud and my dog is completely relaxed and chillen. I wonder if the dissonance actually affects animals like humans. I find it relaxing sometimes and also the opposite sometimes. What a genius
Your dog has good musical taste.
My puppy seems very intrigued, as she keeps jumping onto the couch near me and crashing her neck to observe what is happening. She always come back to me when she realizes that what she hears is coming from the desk, so she obviously recognizes something! :)
The last movement seems to have been a huge influence on King Crimson's Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part 2.
Ben Mackenzie
Great observation! I'm an old King Crimson fan and I think you're right. I hear the influence. Fripp and the band were classically influenced, so it's a definite possibility. Good ear!
Fripp once commented that King Crimson is his answer to the question "What if Jimi Hendrix played a Bartok Quartet?"
I see that about the rhitmic motifs, but i see more of larks I motifs (musically, not in the obvius string sound of the violin)
Que dire ? C'est juste magnifiquement exécuté !
Yes - it is a challenging work and though the performers surmount the challenges it remains difficult for an audience who has not quite absorbed the idiom. May I suggest trying the Vision Quartet in nos. 5 and 3 (they have not yet done 4 on youtube). I don't say they are superior but the visual interplay of 4 young musicians without scores really helps us to follow the patterns of the music and their possible implications. Then we can return to No. 4 with newly awakened ears.
Love how Movement Four arrived and they're like "welp won't need these at all" and all put down their bows lolol
Impresionante!!!
19:40 fourth movement
11:24 lick
Ottima interpretazione.
11:24 Is that lick? Cool af
This rocks!
adrenalina allo stato puro
Very good.
Every possible way you can play an instrument.
Très bien ❤
Organized noise & l love strings
Köszönöm!
Does anyone else hear the similarities in the fourth movements first motif/theme with the main theme of the first movement of ravels sonata for violin and cello ?
C Major lol
Dsc yingyue actually, it's in C... it's true - I wouldn't say C mayor, but it's in C...
Look at he last chord, which rsolves the harmonic tensions.
I would say 'on' C; it is not 'in' C
Yes C major. Look at the cadencces with a score.
Most recordings I've seen don't include a key signature in the title of this quartet. So let's cut the OP some slack. But if you cats who've looked at the score say it's so, I believe you.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bartok often present two conflicting tonalities? What do they call it, bi-tonality, or something like that? If I'm right about that, tell me about that concept, with regard to this work.
I love picking the brains of music theory nerds :D
This is probaby the "best" of the six quartets of Bartok - the Everest in Himalaya. The technique of writing is rather obvious when hearing carefully. It is the solidity of the building, its symmetry and asymarty which makes it the materwork of six masterworks.
It is. It's so beautiful and ugly and menacing and spiritual all at once. And it really exploits the limits of what strings can do like no other quartet.
The viola player reminds me so much of the Irish guy in black books.
I promise to try more with Bartoks String quartets. Ten listenings is the first step. This first listening I just look at the first violinists feet and try to count how many times he moves them.
The second listening I still think "Why make it so complicated?" But I dont concentrate at the musicians feet moving so much anymore.
The third listening will be tomorrow, but I am already irritated on the frustration without goal in the second movement. As it seems.
Today Im beginning to understand the structure of this work
Today is my tenth listing. And even if I can say I have become more familiar with this music, and sort of understand how it goes, I cannot say that this is my music. Sorry, it sometimes seems that this is the highest music of all. If it is so, then I can only say I am not at the same level. I like a lot of music, but not so much Bartok String Quartet no 4. After ten listenings.
The Bartok I like the most is his Romanian Folk Songs in different versions. But of course, these he has not composed, just translated to classical music.
Whether you like them or not, most people will agree that the string quartets of Bartok are interesting, original, and challenging. It certainly seems that all the commentators here are trying to rise to the challenges, and very civilly, too, for the most part. I am curious to know what any of you think about BartholomeyBittmann, a new string duo (cello and violin/mandola) from Vienna who play music of their own composition. I won't prejudice things by saying any more, but if you do have time to listen and comment I'm sure I will find it interesting.
Génial
Ben sonate. Sed 'Move ma non troppo'. Video mentionate in mi sito web.
C is okay, major is a bit azardous... the quartet is for sure in C, but it's almost impossible to find a single "mode" for it...
Totally silly to say that this piece (or any Bartók piece) is in "C-major." It's not. He simply doesn't use a key signature on almost all of his pieces because it's irrelevant to highly chromatic music. Wonderful performance, though!
The music is great, the playing is great, but the sound and image are slightly out of sync and that makes it a pain to watch
Is it me, or did they switch the left and right channels? I hear the cello out of my left speaker.
It's in my right channel
11:23 The Licc
The 4th movement is a delightful freak. As a break from expectation it is dazzling. I enjoy good pizzicato at times, and it is never better than this. Elsewhere, when it is used to punctuate another player's bowing, it can be truly powerful. I could do without the strumming, however. That's just my taste. Leave strumming to ukuleles.
thanks i read this in a very fun accent
The Bartok "pizzicato": I do not know how the strings do not break.
Who doesn't love some pissed off Bartok?
Life!!! 👍😉❤❗
I have to point out its not in C Major (big shock) its atonal.
its 4th movement is powerful, like a sewing machine
So this guy invented death metal.
The 4° quartet of Bartok is probably one of his top masterworks, togather with the music for strings, percussion and celesta and the sonata for two pianos and percussion. The key of C major is questionable, even in his tonal system as developed by the musicologist Lendvaï. The 4° and the 5° quarttets follow a symetric plan in five movements, with contrasts ensuring the progression of the music, for instance here chromatism/diatonism for the 3° and 4° movements.
"c major"
And this is C major
More abstract than jazz.
Music is always abstract, i.e. non-representational. That's the very nature of the medium. If anything, avant-gardism can feel more concrete, as it attempts to include "noise" and other sounds that arise in lived environments - into melodies that would otherwise have no direct worldly reference.
@@otherwords1375 Damn, never thought of it that way. Like how major and minor keys are only happy and sad due to cultural influence rather than intrinsic representation.