Homelander Fumbles in Front of America's Elite | The Boys | Prime Video
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- Victoria Neuman (Claudia Doumit) steps in when Homelander (Antony Starr) is unable to front up to American's most powerful.
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Two more minutes and homelander was about to snap on them.
Neuman saved them.
no he was not
my god bro this is every single episode its so repetitive
@@zortexboco306he definitely was
@@Dmog97 He could have, but to me it looked like he was about to cry.
@@Supbrozki what do you think homie would of done to them if they all witnessed him crying ?
I love how Homelander reverted to his milk fantasies after one reality check from people he can't simply lazer off
yet
Yes he can . He could destroy the entire usa if he went all out psycho
@@zero082294he could but even he knows it would be completely pointless and it would essentially end his own existence. He lives off fear and admiration not destruction.
@@zero082294I'm pretty sure they have not tested nuclear weapons on him, considering he was locked in a room that would not survive a nuclear weapon for most of his early life.
Point being: the nuclear option exists, and just because Madelyn Stillwell, a character who lied very often about her very special boy, said he cannot be hurt by them does not mean he would not be obliterated by one.
@@kasm7870 hes too fast to be hit by a nuke. All they would do is destroy their own cities and he would be in another city before it even exploded lol . Also in the comics it’s stated they did test nukes on him and he tanked it
1:51 she's nodding like a little kid i'm freaking DEAD💀
"this self inflicted lobotomy will only last a few hours, how can i embarrass myself or others that fast?"
@@Blank3tMusic This one wasn't self inflicted but yeah.
@@Blank3tMusic I'm not sure the bullet will get out of her head
@@amitkenan3878oooo, that sounds interesting
Im not so sure. I think its stuck until someone removed it @@amitkenan3878
I do find it kinda funny. Homelander tries to pander to them like the VNN crowd and they were insulted that he was treating them like fools. Then Nueman steps up and what does she do? She panders to them. Tells them whatever they want to hear then massages their egos. The actual words and phrases were different but the treatment was identical.
No one, NO ONE is immune to propaganda 2:14
His a white cis male and shes a woman of colour so...its clear why they listen to her
Is because they don't treat supes as intelligent people with conscious class or politics, in fact they don't have, not even tek knight who has multiple relationships with the rulling classes has, Neuman on the other hand has worked for political positions so she is well aware that appealing to their dominance as the socioeconomical rulling class at least give them points. Only people like Madelyn stillwell or stan edgar could be capable of truly make a business to them but not the supes, Sage tho was an opportunity yet she was lobotomized by brain, the show is self conscious how childish this situation is, superheroes be bad or be good cannot change the world and that's a key concept in similar stories like Watchmen. I truly love this narrative, while the boys focus on killing supes and vought as the problem, there's much bigger problems happening around vought and its powers
Fools isnt the right word, they were insulted because HL was speaking to them like they were poor
Neuman appealed to their blue-blood mindset
Homelander is not a great debater, Victoria is. Victoria is like AOC, but with a brain. She's like Hillary, but with appeal and charisma. A lot of progressives despise the Clintons because they're owned by Wall Street and corporations. Or at least they used to be, when they had influence.
1:44 This scene is golden😂
That's so weird. This whole scene is weird. Like it's written by the people who wrote the 2016 Ghostbusters movie.
Is that supposed to be "haha look how awkward they are, aren't they funny?" Kind of scene?
@@fashiharz8584 have you seen the rest of the season?
@@thequiry6493he said this scene. Not the whole season 😂😂
@@fashiharz8584 The actors somehow make it even worse
Actors are great
I didn't like how they sidelined Sage with the lobotomy this episode but I guess it was worth it to remind us what a big baby Homelander is without his mommy, needing to be rescued by Victoria. It's been long enough since that shareholder meeting scene that I'm fine with being reminded
I hate the very idea of Sage's character - no writer could ever portray a person hyped up to be so smart.
Sidelining Sage in that scene was a must even for that reason alone.
Homelander Is not a leader and he Will never be, as much as he hates to admit Edgar said the Truth to him, he Will regret his choice and look at him now i mean as a political leader Is he capable? No, he can be a dictator tho like the dude from North korea.
Well it's actually good writing. If Sage has no shortcomings it'd be too easy. Her power saved her from death. And this shows how much Homelander needs her. If anything it shows you how important she is for the plot but her brain requiring occasional brain lobotomy for her to feel relief is also interesting writing.
Sage and Neumann would make it way too easy for Homelander in the long run. Sage will probably be written out the season shes introduced since lobotomizing her every time to keep her from being effective will get old writing wise.
@@edmis90 I love Sage, love the idea that being smart can be a super power. The show is good because it's unpredictable. Why should Sage save the day every time?
Neuman Nodding: We got this girl.
Sage nodding: I can nod too!
That was hilarious 😂😂
I truly believe that's the exact thing going through a lobotomized Sage in that moment.
Look at the expression that Homelander is displaying. As prideful as he could get in his own effort, he is annoyed by the fact that Victoria was taking the spotlight. And that Sage was too busy munching on the cake, much to his hopelessness lol.
Zoe? Don't you mean Neuman?
@@GoldenKeeper255Zoe is Victoria's daughter.
@@weirdu616 Thanks for the correction.
That is clearly a full cake
@@gapsule2326Thank you for the second correction lol.
I love this scene because usually Homelander makes people afraid but this is one of the few times that he is afraid. He can't threaten any of them with violence, he can't snap. It's like a reverse of every other scene. Especially the scenes in episode 4. He is completely powerless even though they are all humans, and all he talks about is how he's better than humans.
he pretty much can. as much as I hate the guy, nothing would happen to him. those smugs were powerless
It's actually very disappointing. We're really going to go with, "He's a superhuman baby dumb dumb, who gets intellectually outclassed by women spouting grade school political soliloquies". I really didn't think the writing of this show could get any worse, but here we are ruining the only interesting character on the show.
@@user-qn1zp5bi2h He was never smart when it came to management. Not season 1, not now.
@@user-qn1zp5bi2hbro, neumann is literally a politician and the other girl is the smartest person in the world, Why would homelander be better at politics than either of those people?
They're elites of the world threatening them means his own reputation is gone he can only threaten those ordinary citizens
I like the consistency in the fact that Homelander flounders here. Sure, he has extensive media training and knows how to play a crowd. But that’s just it. He was specifically trained to manipulate the masses, not those who actually wield power at the apex of society.
And the fact he fails to do so here reinforces the truth that he has always been a tool for the elite, even if he can literally pose a threat to them physically. Overall, even when has been elevated to high levels of influence and power, he is still incapable of fulfilling his ambitions without luck and the guidance of others more knowledgeable than him. Perhaps this level of higher manipulation can be a skill he can learn, but we all know he doesn’t have the patience for that.
0:46 Victoria Neuman speaks the truth, also 'Democracy makes people feel safe' 'People are labour force' she thinks she's Emperor Palpatine 🤣
UNLIMITED HEAD POPPIN’!!!
Ha wait till they don’t even need a labor force
It's not a democracy, it's a republic.
There's no way Neuman isn't lying to them, she clearly hates them.
@@jjleoniepretty close to that now
Neuman and Sage xDDDDDDDD
You can literally hear Stans tone in Victorias speech here. Phenomenal acting
I'm surprised Homelander didn't just use his heat vision to threaten the elite into submission.
Theyd probably not be actually intimidated, knowing that he needs them, just like stan edgar knew
He wasnt far off, but he really ideally needs their actual support
Probably only didn't cause Ryan was there
That wouldnt work
Ok, so you laser the dudes who run the world, what next? not even Homelander is that dumb, he knows they have more actual power than him, killing them just make his plans harder to achieve.
1:37 Ryan’s expression without words is perfect during this scene!
This is almost the exact speech given to Howard Beale in Network, a movie almost 50 years old
It's been that long!? Omg. (I'm so old.) 😱
So glad someone else caught this lol
network is my favorite movie I instantly thought of it 💀
@@Hyperion4K Greatest screenplay ever written in my opinion.
Except with half the nuance and twice as hamfisted
While I do enjoy Homelander getting barraged with geopolitical questions, I’m kinda disappointed Sage did not have a chance to explain her plan
Homelander is on the verge of tears when Neuman took over. Look at his little fragile ego. can't even handle it when someone saves his skin
Yeah, the writers destroyed this character.
@@user-qn1zp5bi2h this is completely on character, you are just misinterpretating him, he is not like in the comics, this is what he always was in the show, he don't have any kind of experience running things, his strong and confident personality... is all just a facade, he thought the elites were as dumb as the masses and he was dead wrong, he always presented weakness when people have more authority than him.
Homelander doesn't like when people own him verbally. That's why he got rid of Stan Edgar
@user-qn1zp5bi2h 'The writers destroyed this character' actually 'The writers shattered my delusional view of this character'. This petty narcissist bully has been the same character since season 1.
@@user-qn1zp5bi2h Season 4 and some people STILL don't understand the show or it's major characters...
Homelander wanted to cry so bad. He hates feeling emasculated. It probably stems from ptsd which is interesting.
"So, this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." Victoria Neuman is just pushing for an oligarchy.
That's what democracy is and has always been.
pushing? the oligarchy already rules the us
@@ofentsetsipa1578And what would you prefer? Monarchy? Nah, an outdated concept even when it was conceived.
America was always an oligarchy ruled by the rich
@@Skiritaiin democracy politicians and leaders can get away with corruption and be replaced, but a monarchy can't afford any instability
Neuman saved them all
Victoria was victorious.
I was afraid he's going to laser them because of how humiliated he felt
i mean look at him 1:09 he was so close to crying.
Billionaire: How do you propose to handle the justice department?
Homelander: First I start taking out power centers...
Victoria: Okay, okay...
I wonder if Neuman said what she said because she believes it or just wanted to keep everyone alive because it looked like Homelander was about to snap.
Its so unsettling how unstable he is, literally 2 eps ago he bloodied by massacred innocents in a lab and now hes holding back tears because someone criticized his speech 😭😭 hes literally just a baby😭
I wouldn't have called the people in lab innocent but I get your point.
@@codysingh5939 some of them were new employees, they didnt do anything to him personally thats what i meant
Homelander is a narcissistic psychopath, but vulnerable, fragile type of a psycho. He's basically really unstable, unhinged version of Superman. That's really scary, a person like this having that kind of superpowers
She's PIGGING OUT ain't she??
Out of context it seems childish but the reason is cause she got shot in the head by MM
She's basically been lobotomized and has, essentially, the mental age and impulse control of a small child in this scene
The weird interaction between sage and Newman is so funny
Bro was about to cry because everyone questioned his methods
I like how Homelander is a full psycho on Starlight when she threatens him, but some lady in a boardroom asking EBITDA and these dinosaurs having basic follow-ups completely crumbles him into a small boy.
It happens.
@@petervizzini4006Older people not being impressed with him seems to trigger that emotional weakness in him.
I think the problem is that he knows he is inferior to them intellectualy. It isn't the fact that they defied him, it's the fact that even he knows that he couldn't answer those questions, thus making his weakness come from his inner self
@inquisitorialllama638 Not so much older people but more people with authority. Probably a remnant of his conditioning
America keeps making shows about the US dying and civil wars.
They are creating a tulpa.
Or just knowing what’s coming 🤷🏽♂️
Nothing lasts forever, especially things not built to last in the first place
Tf is a tulpa supposed to be?
@@refumei7847 It's a buddhist thing, about how our mentality shapes our reality, like, if you think about something long enough, it'll become real.
This comment here is basically saying that the things american movies/shows are talking about over and over again are bringing the exact outcomes from it to reality...
I can see where this comes from.
@@RodrickMarsMoonOr maybe it’s called foreshadowing and predictive programming. A standard troupe within the art of film and tv and also music.
Bro was holding back tears 💀
fumbling is crazy 💀
He was just seconds away from killing everyone in the room.
I kinda want to see more of THIS Sister Sage at some point lol
Wonder how long it's going to take for Sage's brain to regenerate
man, homski's gonna snap in this season for sure
What I hate here is how all his character development through episode 4 has just been ruined immediately.
I was led to believe he didn't need love and approval anymore, but now we see him get real mad and angsty when no one pays any attention to him or takes him seriously, but do the exact opposite to Neumann.
Not only this, his powers have also been insanely nerfed this season. How did bro not hear the gunshot (nevermind it being silenced), and a bunch of morons wandering about the house. Heck, how did he not hear Hughie when he was standing right behind him, planting the bugs and talking on the cell phone?
The dude who was able to pull Butcher away from a explosion within a millisecond yet Hughie somehow managed to escape him by crawling out of a small air vent. The writers have absolutely dropped the ball this season.
Barbara literally spelt it out for viewer that he will never be over it. They have implant it in him so deep that he will always be easily controllable.
Homelander is far too broken mentally to have any real development. Petty and pointless revenge that only gives him temporary relief wont suddenly improve his mental state in any permanent way.
Senator brewster's here too!
The writers took Homelander's balls away in this scene. This was not the Homelander that shrugged off Starlight's threat to go public with her Flight 74 blackmail video. It's not the same Homelander that got Butcher to agree to go scorched earth against the Vaught Corporation and the establishment elites. That Homelander would've said to all of the elites - "The DOJ, the military, they're no threat - I could bring them all down if I wanted to. You want me on your side, wouldn't you?".
Agreed, they have made Homelander too incompetent he feels like a caricature of himself.
None of those situations required homelander to be smart, he was always an idiot. You can't go apeshit on people who control 1/3 of the gdp. You have you get in their pants and convince them. Not a single bit of homelander plans to be liked was done solely by him, someone always had to regulate/help him in some shape or form
She just used the network sperch.....
Homelander is ashamed of him not able to give their answers 😅.
Plot has not moved an inch forward this season.
Nah its moved, I agree though, too many sideplots when next season is supposed to be the last. Having read the comics though, they are still clearly following a rough outline of the plot and at this point theyve got like, 2 or 3 arcs left to cover before it wraps up. The stuff with Hughie and Tek Knight was pretty clearly drawn from the Herogasm arc of the comics, so we're approaching the end. Still though, it is a bit weird yeah. Only 2 episodes left this season, probably didnt need so many sideplots
I mean that's objectively incorrect
The plot moved a lot wdym
Such a dumb statement, we have seen so much character growth and seeing who these characters truly are this season. saying the Plot hasn't move is a massive understatement, Have you even been watching the show or do you have it as background noise?
Fully agreed. Notice how the redditors at the comments can't name a single thing that moved forward the plot
Homelander against America
They all question Homelander on how he's going to achieve his coup but don't say anything to Victoria even though she also doesn't say how they're gonna pull it off... Sure. I like the ambition of the season but the writing feels more simplistic, almost like the comic in a sense. I miss how tight the previous season felt, this one just feels scatter brain and all over the place; not to mention how regressed The Boys feel when it comes to characterization. Except for Huey and MM, their plots I like quite a bit.
nah i think its cos they just see homelander as a celebrity without knowledge, out of this league, when victoria is vice president
@@WowTooCool Fair enough, she does hold more gravitas than him
Sage would have had actual answers whereas I feel Victoria understands how they tick and what they like to hear. Homelander had neither.
@@kurapees Yup, that's fair, makes sense for her to have more gravitas with the other politicians and influential people.
i feel like theyre just making fun of homelander because they know he doesnt know anything about the insides of politics u know what im saying
Sage is killing me 😂
This scene is comedy gold
The captions people for these videos for prime video are almost as good as the captions people for Crunchyroll.
Dude literally cannot function as a person when hes not allowed to do whatever he wants. He falls apart without intimidation or violence in situations that dont warrant or benefit from it at all. His mind just isnt mature enough to operate ar this level of equal communication and far too broken.
They should’ve waited on the Homelander visits his old family episode, because this scene just made it fall backwards.
No surprise, Homelander can't handle being a real leader 😂
wait, is that chocolate cake the same one Hughie farted on 💀💀
Humbled him when she interrupted him 😂
Homelander neglected to remember - or learn - that no man rules alone.
I love this episode release when Election also happen😂
Neuman should have mentioned Amazon! Bezos should have been in that room.
Homelander was nerfed here. What is the point of killing all lab scientists in the chamber. I thought he lost humanity. But look here, he bows, stays low and quiet, and embarrassed by humans instead of lasering them off
This felt so relevant specially with the Supreme Court decision to basically make next President all the power with zero consequences. They're paving the way for fascism.
Sure, because the other candidate literally weaponizing the justice system with 5 democrat partisan judges to politically persecute his opposition over made up charges is any different? Acting like what Biden did is anything less than Fascist is just being intentionally blind
Project 2025 yeah it’s a facist tango to totalitarianism
@@Darklarik3didn't trump appoint the judge?
@@jokeruiner4481He can't just put in a new judge it has to be approved by Congress
@@InkyHelmIt's just a change of pace from the left
Homelander as an analogy of a certain business man turned politician is becoming more and more obvious as this season progresses. He's a person who desperately wants to be loved and wants to be in charge, but he does not want to answer questions or lead or have any responsibilities.
Someone who starts with B and ends in N. Also, "Orange Man Bad" right ?
@@yrooxrksvi7142 He is so dangerous for our country, and his hands are small!!!! I will never acknowledge that a LOT more death occurred due to Biden's foreign policy than Trump's!
but let's face it, neither are good options and the division in this country is unreal.
@yrooxrksvi7142 who is orange man
@@largestreamofwater7678 I love when these "political" comments are visited by the most clueless people. Really paints the true picture.
It's Trump, where have you been for the past 6-7 years ?
@@largestreamofwater7678 Gee, I don't know. It's not like it was a recurring meme for the past 6-7 years.....
They already did this bit when homelander was in charge of vought.
I would argue it’s even better here because Homelander can’t intimidate his way out of this one.
Why it's good to have someone who knows politics on his side.
0:59 true but an outright Oligarchy is just as bad as Democracy
I don't get it. Am I the only fan who likes season 4?
They are the people the show is making fun of. Just laugh and move on
Anthony is carrying the show on his back. The storylines aren’t too interesting anymore.
We have 2 episodes left and we have had very little plot development … the next 2 episodes have to be amazing imo to save it.. and if sage is master plan is a coup(Jan 6) conservatives will be even more triggered
@@RondellStanwe had ALOT of plot development WDYM???
HLs full origin and reason for craving love was revealed, Butcher now has a parasite that’s attempting to convince him to commit genocide on all supes, Homelander is making steps with Neumann to take over the presidency, A train’s going through immense character development, the brain of the boys is literally out of the picture etc
How is the plot not moving forward again???
@@RyomenAyeni225 did I say not I said very little especially compared to previous seasons and when I mean the plot I mean overarching plot for the season. U named a bunch of characters who had progressions in there storyline to some degree which I agree with but I think frenchie kimiko and starlight( who I’m prob most disappointed about) has literally halted or went backwards …there is no goal or target for the season .. u listed taking over the presidency yes the idea but a lot of the details needed for it has largely just not been dealt with.. like how is Neuman sage and homelander going to do this or why do they need internment camps like wth.. love the homelander part but if u just compare S3 which had to do with finding soldier boy getting his revenge as the overarching plot line or S1 which was finding out voughts secret and compound V I don’t get this one YET but that’s just me the next 2 weeks I could be eating crow but you just stated events in an episode
Homelander is like a child
she quoted Kamala Harris!
The basis of this scene is flawed. Homelander tells them the President will be deposed by congress using the 25th Amendment of the Constitution. One of them tells him that that is a coup, and rather then respond that it is not a coup because the president will be deposed by constitutional means Homelander goes on some rant about it being patriotic even though the politician was not asking him about the morality of the president being deposed.
Firstly the man should know what the 25th amendment means. The script should have had him ask Homelander how they were going to get enough congressmen onboard to impeach and remove the president. Homelander then should have said that they could threaten enough of them to get it done and fabricate evidence that the President supported the attack on Firecracker. The politician could have responded that fabricating evidence was not possible or that they would be caught trying to threaten congress. Homelander then could have responded that they would then carry out an illegal coup which would have led very nicely into the rest of the conversation in this video.
The point of the scene is that homelander doesn't know what he's talking about. He would have certainly explained it if he was another character, but his character is that of a child.
@@Number-id3dd What I am saying is that the politician should understand the way politics works and the script should have had him say what I said he should have said. I understand that Homelander is not a constitutional scholar but given that the script shows hims as being knowledgeable enough to know about the 25th amendment it only makes says that he should have explained that congress using the 25th is not the same as launching an illegal coup.
Shes right its not a democracy its a republic.
Hows the dlc?
Please explain how those terms are mutually exclusive
@@vwgames49 look up the definitions
The only people who say that are right wing weirdos. Republics are a form of representative DEMOCRACY...
The representatives are supposed to act in the interest of the people while preventing the dangers associated with mob mentality such as reactionary violence against minorities. Clearly something is off.
No its an Oligarchy
this scene is not realistic. those mega wealthy have heard this speech before and should not be impressed.
Politician: How do you propose to handle the justice department ?
Homelander: ..... Is there something you just want to get off your chest ?
This episode was a FUMBLE just painful to watch
The irony Amazon is funding this show
The elites are not wearing their tiny hats.
The writers certainly are though :)
Almost like religious groups don't have some magical hivemind just because they happen to occupy a large part of some industries
@@fungoidal just because they happen to do many horrible things going back 2,000 years.
@@Randy-MacDonald what 2000 years? You guys still believe that water can be turned into wine?
@@Randy-MacDonaldlike dying for our sins?
This is Just Good TV folks... Dont take it seriously!!!
1:16 - what are they showing here? Is that a listening device?
yea
@@anonymoushuman8443 Who is listening and recording? Victoria won't be happy about that.
@@Pasan34 The Boys
I get this show has always made fun of conservative people, but some things are now kinda lacking in the subtlety department. The jewish lasers thingy was a bit too meme compared to other things seen. Even the guns convention were less exaggerated. I like the fact that Frenchie turned himself to police as a punishment for murdering that guy's family and all the others, and I think Butcher going butchin' mode is cool, it seems like the jokes go too easy on the mind now
After all he is just an Actor, not a leader, raw power cant be used to lead a country, not even a state.
Ronald Reagan
Sage is a waste of time now reach to far for her to do wat she want homelander doh like it 😅
Homelander wasn’t meant to be the CEO of Vaught or some genius. He was trained to be the strongest/prettiest poster boy of all time.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they purposely made him dumb genetically.
The irony of this scene while the show actively engage in divisive behaviors (Left vs right, republicans vs democrats) and then say "Guys stop fighting these are our real enemies controlling our illusionary democracy"
Starr is only thing holding this horrible season semi together.
This is the worst episode in the series in my opinion
And they've just ruined his character with this scene.
I agree.
Which episode?
EP 6
6
She is right, we're not a Democracy. We are a Republic.
Steak isn’t food, it’s meat
Coke isn’t a drink, it’s soda
New York isn’t a place, it’s a city
Do you see how this logic doesn’t make any sense?
@@vwgames49 That logic is a fact. It's what the founding fathers intended.
@@XanderMarshall I want you to give me the definition of the words “democracy” and “republic” and explain how the terms are mutually exclusive
@@vwgames49 A Republic is ruled by the United States constitution. A Democracy is ruled by the will of the majority of the people.
@@XanderMarshall Nearly ever country on earth has a constitution, that doesn’t make them all republics
A country can be a democracy without being a republic (The UK) and it can be a republic without being a democracy (China). It can also be both at the same time (Germany) or neither of them (Saudi Arabia)
The terms are not mutually exclusive
I thought neuman was a parody of AOC. She's practicing the same.
No wonder this show is losing its audience
Could you explain?
Can't believe it took some people the 4th season to realize that the show is making fun of them, and even when they do they start parroting the same old "hurr durr bOtH sIdEs" narrative that's kneejerk to them at this point 😂😂😂
What an exceptionally original viewpoint
@@Ryan-yf8og struck a nerve, did it ❄️?
@@theflashfan3234You struck his little heart, not just a nerve 😂
Everyone knew it has a lefty-bent. But it was at least nuanced, meaning that it was able to see conservatives as people and not caricatures and left-leaning people as also flawed.
But since season 2 the whole thing has become a cartoonish parody of Trump voters and by now it's just cringeworthy.
But they're supposed to be..."smarter" than everyone else tho😅😂
So Americas greatest supe CANNOT MAKE A SPEECH?
Making a speech its quite different from knowing about how the goverment works
@ok_status_2009 it just goes to show that Homelander is a pitiful disappointment like Stan Edgar said
@@ok_status_2009 he’s literally speaking to the high members of the government tho?
He's clearly not thinking about consequences of his actions, he just wants to take over the government at this point while letting Sage work all out all the kinks. It's probably a nod to how he's becoming impatient and kind of losing it. He's gonna snap anytime now.
Sigh, I mean I feel like we've been waiting for him to "snap anytime now" for over 2 seasons.@@Nosho-fc5xm
Yea I agree but that was a couple episodes ago, this episodes was an utter classic, almost enough to forgive the last 5 it was so diabolically good.
Callbacks to season 1 with the lactating scene, excellent violence that actually had a consequence, top 5, 3 maybe even best episode ever but I could be clouded as the last 5 was utter 💩
So bad there wasn't even any follow up to those plotlines in this episode this almost felt like episode 1 of season 4
Episode 4 was better than the rest of the season all together
This show’s writing sure has declined since Season 1 😂
How is this scene bad though? Homelander attempted to convince them by reciting talking points he uses on the general population, but didn’t work due to the upper class’ interest in deviating the conversation from class discrepancies (which Homelander is unknowingly playing along). Sage had the points to convince them, but got shot. Neuman did not have Sage’s plans, but knew where to steer the conversation to say things they wanted to hear; makes sense she’s Vice President. It’s perfectly nuanced if you think about it for a bit.
Writing has taken a nosedive, that moment where we saw the clones rimming themselves was actually a cameo of the writers room.
It got so bad I started liking It. "The good guys" are so terrible, the country presented in such a horrible light that I can't help but to side with Homelander. Not because he Is smart or a Mastermind, but because everything else sucks so much more than him.
I don't know if the writers were aiming for this result, there Is a chance that they did It. It Is either a great piece of propaganda or the most terrible example of It.
@@pierluigiadreani2159 Or because writing a personality as vapid as his (and yours because let's be honest, that's why you identify with him) takes zero imagination.
@@QilinReggaeYes. We like Homelander because of his vapid personality. How right you are!! I personally thought people liked Anthony Starr’s performance but clearly it’s his personality that’s attracting people. Bingo!!
@@atharvawaikar9730 Yeah thx for spelling it out
Its a cameo of right wingers and flat earthers and MAGA supporters
People find this offensive because it's true and truth ALWAYS hurts.
For me
S1>S3=S4>>S2 till now
For me S3>S2>S4>S1
Agreed
I say S1>S3>S2>S4
No billionaire is going to hear her speech about 'how the world really works' and take her seriously. She could just leave the last sentence, promise deregulation, tax cuts, and accessible foreign/domestic growth, and they would raise their glasses. It feels like some zoomer writer wanted to feel profound and fell on they/them's face.
I’ve heard plenty of millionaires and billionaires talk exactly like this from Jeremy boreing to Elon musk sound pretty much like this in interviews
That's why instead of naming the real companies that siphon the wealth from our nations they name companies like Exxon that actually produce something useable LOL. They couldn't even mention banks in general? what about the big 3 investors, everyone knows about it anyway so the writers not talking about it makes them seem either dumb or purposefully obtuse.
Anti wokes always out themselves by thinking billionaires are rational people
@@Ironcorgi2 And a lot worse when they don't know they are being recorded.
@Ironcorgi2 The thing is, even if a billionaire did think like this, they don't need a politician of all people to level with them on how the world works. The expectation is already there, with politicians already categorizing people as constituents and everyone else. If any group of people were to most likely hold these views, it would be the people who legislate, control, and govern others.
sage... is kinda cute?
“The people mad are the ones its making fun of”
You guys are literally the ones it makes fun of, you sound like firecracker. A show can have worse writing in a season
Funny how for the rest of the world the show still the same while the Americans are getting crazy, it must be vote season.
@@TectonicTechnomancer I’ve seen many europeans and other continents/nations share their disapproval for the new season. For you to imply that every other country had no criticism of the show at all is asinine.
@@Sheriff-ev7myIm from Spain and I felt the dip in writing quality, It doesnt compare to season 1 at all. All of this "they hate It because It makes fun of them" is deflection of actual criticism.
AOC exists in this universe? I thought Victoria was meant to be a parody of her. My god can this show get confusing sometimes.
yeah, that line was kinda weird
It can be both lol
@@ItsOver9000Productions wont that defeat the whole "parody" thing they have going on?
@@zeynaviegas5043 they're not gonna interact in any meaningful way so not really. Parodies have met their counter parts before.
DC and Marvel probably exist too as fiction just like in the real world.
What a sheety show
Right wingers mad but the show has always been anout making fun of them
No it hasn’t. It made fun of both sides from the beginning because it was a show on business. Even Stan Edgar said it perfectly “we are a pharmaceutical company” making them a business. Does politics play a part in business? Of course, that’s why they could say Vought was Disney owning everything and the jabs at BOTH SIDES, cause that’s the truth, the first 3 seasons they did a fantastic job making the jokes even but the biggest mistake was the 2 year gap they DIDNT SHOW. That’s a long time for nothing to happen, how Frenchie and kimiko stop there relationship from coming together? Why Neuman want Homelander away? When did Butcher take the compound V? First mistake a lot of people in Hollywood make is telling and not showing and that’s what is it happening. How did Vought go from clearly being made to be the Disney of all this to being Fox? This seasons issue is the non stop ridiculing of the right with very little on the left, it’s clearly obvious who is supposed to be the good guys and bad guys and while we can agree backing Homelander is wrong but to act as if he’s an actual representation of Trump is wild to because say people that follow Trump are “bad guys”
does not make a show bad, a show is not entitled to be biased towards one side or another
@@supaso1der is not entitled? While I don’t agree with what’s being shown in the show, it’s someone’s creative process and created product, they are entitled to be biased towards one or the other and I agree it doesn’t make the show bad just this season subpar to the others mainly cause of the 2 year jump.
No, this show started out making fun of both sides, but now you can see that one side is being attacked more than the other. Now, you may like this or not, but the change has not made the writing become bad, that is the difference between making a story with a sociopolitical message and a good story with a sociopolitical message. Let's not create unnecessary conflict just because a part of a certain political group that we don't like is being mocked, not everyone on the right or left thinks the same.
@@owenharrison761 it’s what I’m saying, i still love this show and find A LOT of humor in what they show but agreed fully due to the clear mocking of one side it’s made the writing at some points dull to put it at best cause the show is still really good it’s just this season takes a step back for me at least.
This has been one of the weakest episodes in last 2 seasons
I really liked it
Don't you love when the so called "adult shows" have the most childish writing?
It's called satire. Hope this helps
Took you this long to realize the show was making fun of you
Womp womp right winger sad show is making a laugh out of them
@@christygodfrey1752 womp womp left winger makes everything about politics unprovoked.
Seriously, people can start to dislike a show if they want to. Trying to make everything about politics is why left wingers get a bad name in the first place.
@@mncrft3386Hey like when I tell the n word to a black right? I just tell him its satire and we have a laugh at it.
Man this season wack asf 👎
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