Yo! I bought this bike from Eurocycle in Las Vegas! I'm EXTREMLY Pleased! The reason it seemed lazy to you, is this engine NEEDS to be broken in... It is literally a Kawasaki z650... Same engine... except the Morini has ALL the extras that are missing from the Kawasaki.. Brembo brakes, Digital Bluetooth display WITH navigation!! 43mm Upside-down fork that's fully adjustable.. WAY better tires than what comes on the z650.. All for less... Not to mention the fact that this bike is BEAUTIFUL and CLASSY!! It is NOT a street squid bike... so.... I guess its for mature folks who want a well built, good looking naked bike with all the bells and whistles for less. Thanks and ride safe!!
@@keithert Well, for some reason Yammie has a vendetta against Parallel Twins. The engine in this bike is an EXACT copy of the ER6n but made by CFmoto. In fact, if you ever have trouble locating parts, you can just look up parts list for Ninja 650 or z650 or even the Versys 650 and they will match up! Thanks!
@askaryanpulse5755 any issues with it? I'm picking up an scr also from vegas. They marked them down to $4900 and decided to trade in my interceptor 650.
@niospartan Hey there! Actually no, I haven't had a single issue! I take that back... the only issue I had was finding insurance due to Moto Morini being new in the US, most insurance companies do not have them in their system, so when you give them the VIN number, it doesn't show up. Fortunately, I jumped through all the hoops for you and STRONGLY recommend you use AllState Insurance. I did all the leg work and had Morini added to their system. Not to mention their insurance was by far the lowest around! But mechanically, no issues! Remember, it's a ER6n engine so they have been around forever and are bullet proof! Use a K&N 303 for the oil filter.. believe me, I just saved you some time right there :)
@niospartan Oh and BTW, once you get your bike, stop out to Pikeys Coffee on Decatur and Sunset on weekend morning's! There's always 20 to 50 bikes from 8am to 11am. It would be great to have another Morini to add to the group!!!
This looks way better than the MT07 because it doesn’t have the stupid rear fender. It’s powerful enough - if I was getting something just to get around town on this might tempt me.
I don't know why my comment was removed but like what I said I have this bike and it's about $1800 cheeper in my country than Honda CB600 and Trident 660. For the price you get a lot like Brembo, ABS and good LCD screen by which now it gets Map mirroring on your phone. I don't know also why your acceleration is slower that most reviews but mine is definitely not that slow.
I bought the SCR version of this bike about a month ago and ive loved riding it. I agree that it is lazy feeling but I dont mind that. One gripe though... Its currently in the shop because it wouldnt start. Has a 3 year warranty so we will see what happens.
Update. There is a known issue by Morini. The fuel pump or hose is faulty and doesn't provide the engine with enough fuel to start properly sometimes. Morini overnight shipped the part to my local shop all covered by warranty.
@@pablofos3232 thanks for the feedback - hopefully they sort this at factory asap. don't need more food for the people who hate the bike just cuz it's built in the east
Wow it's been decades since I have heard of Moto Morini! I thought they had folded. My step father had one that he let us kids ride around on. Think it was a 175.
Wow 55hp? My Cf moto CLX 700 Sport is 50cc bigger and 20 more hp! W/ aftermarket midpipe/muffler, it weights in at about 430lbs wet. Built as good as a Kawasaki!
bikes nowadays are more focused on the torque figures and 0-100 stuff.... that's everything for Street roads.... because a track enthusiast won't settle even settle for 14 year old stock R6 or Zx6R.... 💸💸
Tbh at this price point it’s definitely too expensive for the ride and build quality, while not being special under any aspect. Though I have to admit: it’s one of the most beautiful bikes, I love what they did to the headlight (it looks way cooler than the trident, and even the CB650R’s) and the industrial design complements the bike perfectly.
The build quality is excellent for the price, so you're wrong on that one. It's the engine performance that seems underwhelming considering the 650nk (same engine) go hard
@@chrispekel5709 You need to test ride one, the engine is not as underwhelming as he makes it sound. He is low on his quoted numbers (notice how he gave a low range instead of quoting the exact factory number?)
@@briangc1972 I am in Australia and own a 2014 and did have a 2018 650nk. Haven't ridden one of the newest models so I was just comparing people's comments with my experience
Not a good review, too many incorrect facts. I bought the STR a month ago and rode it on a 2200km road trip in the Philippines with a pillion and luggage. The suspension is AMAZINGLY plush and comfortable. On less than perfect roads it soaks up the bumps and potholes like they don't even exist. The brakes are Brembo and stop as well as the brakes on my Ducati. The ABS worked flawlessly all 3 times it kicked in on a muddy slippery road. The engine is a torque monster, not a high rpm HP screamer. The bike had more than enough power for us to keep pace with other riders on 800 and 900 cc bikes in the mountains. The key to any engine is to find the power band work with the power band. We were never at the back of the pack when carving canyons. The steering is not like sport bike, it has an 18" front and long travel suspension. Even so, it is solid and planted and never felt like it was not responsive enough; even with a pillion and 35kg of luggage.
It's not a Chinese motorcycle, it's designed in Italy, and it's parts come from all over the world including Italy, Spain, Germany, and Japan. It maybe assembled in China but it's parts come from around the world. Same as Harley Davidson, BMW, KTM, Suzuki, Honda and every other Motorcycle made today. That use parts from the USA and Thailand and everywhere in between. Even Brembo brakes are made from parts from around the world. To say any motorcycle "comes from any particular country". Is 1950's thinking. If you think you a buying American or German you're dillusuonal, when the parts are sourced on a global scale from a global market place. Within the EU it is now illegal to use the term "made in" you either just have a countries name or "assembled in". If you live in America zoom out the world is a big place. 🙄
As soon as i heard the price, mt07 came to mind. 2022 MT07 otd for me was $9649 1 year later and im still giggly about it. But i can see where someone might want Moto Morinni
I@@klausknudsen106 it;s definatly an Italian made bike.the Italians buy plenty of them,they are proud of their motorcycle heritage and wouldn't entertain buying it if it was made in China.
CFMOTO bought the Kawasaki design and tooling to make their engines. Kawasaki sold them a design that isn't optimized for US or Euro compliance and has to be detuned to meet compliance.
@@nla27 That's true but CFMOTO moved away from that engine to KTM engines recently. These guys are using them now. CFMOTO will update their kawa engined models with KTM ones from now on.
eexcluding launch 31-62 mph in 4,5-5sec ? 61 hp at 215 kg with 75 kg rider = good joke 😉👌🏻 you have some restriced version os 40 hp max 🤭and if speedo error is huge than even less than 40 hp 👍🏻pereonally tested cb 500 restricted 35 hp 31-62 mph racebox 5,0 sec 🤭 similar weight with rider to your test 193+90 kg 👍🏻 after destriction to 57 hp it clck 3,0 sec at 2 gear from 6-6,5 to rpm limiterat 10500 rpm at 101-102 km/h on racebox with avg power at this 2 gear from dyno graph like 50 hp 😎 this seiemco have smaller diffrenc between gearlenght between 31-62 mph 1 shifts more though hovewer at 54 nm at 7 k 61 hp at 8,25 k rpm it use at least 50 hp avg between those speed diffrenc what mean it should clock 3,0 at your body weight like nobis bisnes 😉👍🏻 your test bike is not even close to 61hp 😁👌🏻🤐 or they make this power happen only on couple last gears 🤷🏻♂️🫣 dude broder man bro boi 🤐 royal enfield continental gt at 47 hp the same weight clock 6,2 sec with you body wight to 62 mph ….
Funny that you say it makes only 55hp, in Europe, with all the Euro5+ emissions regulations it is rated at 61hp... Also, the motor is Chinese (maybe most of the bike is, the style is definitely Italian), it's the CF-moto 650 that is a copy of the Kawasaki 650, used in models like the Versys etc...
Just got to test ride this bike!! Coming from someone who owns an FZ6R and an Interceptor 650, these are my thoughts: THE GOOD: - not sure what's wrong with yams bike. 0-60 for my demo SCR was 4 seconds flat, the bike absolutely scooted and felt as fast as my FZ6. Felt about as light too; and the weight is kept low. My guess is that the bike sits closer to 450lbs wet and the hp is slightly under-reported or the gearing is just that short. No issues at all doing 100+MPH - handling was fantastic. Incredibly modern and smooth, like riding a magic carpet. It competes with my FZ and puts my Royal Enfield to shame. - motor is reasonably smooth with no unsettling vibrations. Just a subtle pulse which gradually increases to a minor buzz at redline. The bike let me knew it was there and I wasn't bothered with poor vibrations like on some inline 4s or twin-cyl bikes. THE BAD: - Motor runs worryingly hot. Like way hotter than a 650 making "55hp" should run. I've owned chinese bikes before, and this gave me similar vibes. Namely, I'd trust it to go anywhere for the first 3 years. I would NOT be confident owning this bike for the next 20 years after that. - power is WAYYY up at the rev range. This is where it does in fact feel like an overgrown 300; I had no pull until about 5,000RPMs deep into the tach, and max thrust is basically achieved at redline. The motor is not particularly linear and makes you work to go fast. It's all the (subjectively) annoyances of a 600 supersport with none of the power. - sounds like a far blown through a tin can. I could probably live with the revviness of the motor if it sounded like a crossplane twin but that crankshaft stops me from enjoying it whatsoever. The bike... FEELS Japanese. I truly felt like I was riding a versys 650 wearing a bow tie and a suit. If you're looking for a raw Italian sportbike, this isn't it. This bike is something you buy as a second bike to keep miles off your project bike, or as a more attractive replacement to a scooter. If the objective is PURELY transportation in style, it's a beautiful machine. And I have faith in the Morini brand: the new 750 corsa corta v-twin bikes look incredibly promising! I hope to see more, and to see better from them in the future :)
I rde on for a month and 2200km in the Philippines last month. The bike never over heated with me, my pillion, and 35kg of luggage as we raced through the mountains in 31˚C temps
Oh wow is this the 47th p-twin in the last 3 years ! I can’t wait for more of exactly the same, but with an unknown name with low resale value !!!! Amazing!!!!
Ok.. so you have never heard of Brembo, KYB, Pirelli... and obviously Moto Morini (which has been making bikes for 100 years) the Engine is straight out the CFMoto Factory and is and exact copy of the Kawasaki ER6-N, Which is known for being bullet proof... so sounds to me like its just unknown to YOU.
Thisis like comparing a 6 cylinder mustaing to a v8 gt.they look the similar but performance is greatly different. That has the old kawasaki 650 twin in it so ya its gonna be last generation feeling,but still great looking bike for someone that dont care for the performance and just wants to ride the road.
I think he said it's designed and manufactured not in China. I've seen some examples of poor design/build quality on the cfmoto 450ss. Maybe being designed/manufactured outside of China makes it an actually good bike.
Manufacturing has to do with making the parts. Building is putting the parts together. Designed is drafting the schematics on a computer. Design has little to do with anything other than the way it looks.
@@HA_Horizons I would typically agree with you but CFMOTO bikes are different. They are actually as good as most bikes out there. While they tend to be heavier than their Japanese competitors (all Chinese bikes are), performance and build quality wise, they tend to be on par. That being said, I can’t see purchasing this bike over a CFMOTO due exclusively to the price premium. If I were going to pay more than a CFMOTO, then I’d just get a Japanese bike and call it a day.
I actually like the visual design of this thing…..I just dislike the Chinese company associated with this…I wish the Japanese would buy these Italian companies.
Interesting review, interesting bike. Looks cool, great Starbucks run bike? lolol. I'd be interested in a similar review of the ADV bike they make, the X-CAPE. Comparing that to the CF Moto ADV bike could be, ugh - fun?
I'd love to see a BMW s1000r review, I've had mine for a while now and I love it. Such a great offering and surprisingly comfortable for the performance that it delivers.
@@burnttoast9890 The 650NK which is the same frame and engine as this is *defintely* faster than the RE. I should know, I've got the NK and my friend has the RE. So someone is obviously lying
The only thing bad about it ,is the tacky rear bitza mudguard ,it would be better with a proper one . The Italian Morini ‘s were not exactly the most reliable of motorcycles ,especially in the electrics department . The better Chinese factory’s now have the latest tech ,& have seriously upped their game in the last 10 years . Most of the big name brands ,now source parts ,engines & even full motorcycles built in China & work in partnerships . These Chinese built bikes will probably be more reliable than the classic Italian ones . I own a Chinese built Suzuki & it’s build quality & reliability ,is just as good as any Japanese built Suzuki I ever owned .
I have an Xcape 650 with that same Kawasaki motor and it’s fantastic. I would buy this bike too. I’m done riding crazy and I’d rather have this than a Harley or some other cruiser with forward controls. The 3 year unlimited mileage warranty is about the best in the business as well. Moto Morini’s are awesome. Not every bike is made for riding like a jackass and that okay by me. They’re solid.
Today i borrowed this motorcycle from the dealership because my yamaha FZ1 needed service, but man what a boring bike. I dont get the fact that it only has 60hp with a 650cc twin engine. My first bike was a 2004 650cc suzuki SV and that one had 78 hp and weighed only 165kgs dry Why do newer motorcycle downgrade in engine performance? Really boring bike I would recommend it to nobody
I mean, i dont think its meant for speed, Im sure it supposed to be around urban and get around town and stuff.. Like yammi said.. or maybe a little crusing... and now they are 2023 on sells for 6 grand even... obvious plus TTL..... I dont know I bought a CFMOTO CL-X 700 good power, nice cafe retro look, and for some reason, everyone said this was a big deal.. but I will never use it... is cruise control... apparently for 4100 dollars, you never get crusie control. I bought a brand new 2022 model, like a coupel of weeks ago and honestly couldnt be happier..... The only thing I wish is instead of the round electronice display, it would be the 5 inch TFT display they literally put on everything else.
I have seen these on Eurocycle and have wondered how they justify the price. Higher than established Japanese and CFMOTO prices and far less hp, this will not sell unless it is the only bike in the dealership or extreme markdown.
Sad to see all these smaller motorcycle companies that were really rare and expensive, like the Moto Morini, Benelli, etc. being bought by Chinese companies and losing their craftmanship and uniqueness. Kind of degrades the brand name of the retro bikes that collectors own.
@@chrispekel5709 People do remember things better than they were. Talk to any motorcyclist who owned a pre-Evo engine Harley, and they were usually wrenching on it as much as they were riding it, plus it leaked oil, but there was a real love bond between the rider and their bikes. Those bikes had character, as well as the Italian bikes that sometimes put beauty of its design ahead of its reliability. (Before the Japanese bike manufacturers came along, you almost had to be a backyard mechanic to own and ride a motorcycle.)
i cant understand how someone would buy that when there are bikes like sv650 on the market. Every Sv is made in Japan. it has a v engine that everyone discontinues due to cost, that is fine tuned for 20 years. The Engineer responsible for the mark 3 went and bought the first bike of the line because he was so proud of it, saying its a recipe perfected through the years. And SV is probably cheaper too. Maybe if you prioritise leds or screens, I don't know. I am in this shit because I love engine character and craftsmanship. I guess times change and people prefer different stuff
It looks good But.... Too heavy for a "beginner" bike. The price is too high compared to the competition.the quality is too high for the competition. The performance is too low for the price. I have no clue who this is for.
So you hate all bikes as all manufacturers use some Chinese parts if not entire assemblies in their bikes. Good to know you love proving your ignorance.
@dcrose001 No worries my dear friend if I'm totally ignorant in your eyes that's MUCH MUCH better than not accepting the truth and personally attacking every comment you don't like..A nice day to you sir👍👌
@@albertsammut433don't worry failure, you aren't my friend. Just the opposite actually as cowards like you run in fear when an alpha like me are around.
It reminds me of the CF Moto retro 650 they make I forget the model name or maybe compare it to the smaller displacement Moto Guzzi. An MT07 I thought was in a different category
I have ridden a lot of Royal Enfields and Guzzis and the Seiemezzo feels a lot more like a modern sportbike than the unique experiences the V7 and Conti GT offer. Yams bike has some issues or something cause the morini was absolutely scootin' and had pleeeenty of power
That’s SI unit for pressure. 1/100 of a BAR. Note: on the side tag you probably find pressures given in bar (or in Pa) so it’s easier to compare actual values to target. Also nowadays most manometers have multiple gauges so it’s easy to use the unit your specs are given in. Anyway if the dash can be set in metric or in imperial MM should have converted the units.
Here in my Country Ecuador I think is going to be a great product because here the price is 8.900 usd and a duke 390 is on 9.000 usd and the mt-07 is on 14.000 usd 😂😂 .
Hmmm. Going to pay the same insurance premiums as every other 650 but only has the power of a 500. And how's the dealer network? Am I going to get warranty work done within 50 miles of my home? Availability of parts? Every bike needs a clutch someday.
Maybe they should make 250cC versions of even 300 and send them to Uganda, how about that? I would love one right next to my Simba sports ++. Besides Chinese seem to know how to keep good prices when they cross over to Uganda.
180º parallel engine is obsolete by now. The 270º is such an improvement it makes no sense using an obsolete technology on a new motorcycle, especially for an unknown brand trying to make a dent in the market.
Yo! I bought this bike from Eurocycle in Las Vegas! I'm EXTREMLY Pleased! The reason it seemed lazy to you, is this engine NEEDS to be broken in... It is literally a Kawasaki z650... Same engine... except the Morini has ALL the extras that are missing from the Kawasaki.. Brembo brakes, Digital Bluetooth display WITH navigation!! 43mm Upside-down fork that's fully adjustable.. WAY better tires than what comes on the z650.. All for less... Not to mention the fact that this bike is BEAUTIFUL and CLASSY!! It is NOT a street squid bike... so.... I guess its for mature folks who want a well built, good looking naked bike with all the bells and whistles for less. Thanks and ride safe!!
I'm surprised the video didn't mention the Kawasaki roots of the motor.
@@keithert Well, for some reason Yammie has a vendetta against Parallel Twins. The engine in this bike is an EXACT copy of the ER6n but made by CFmoto. In fact, if you ever have trouble locating parts, you can just look up parts list for Ninja 650 or z650 or even the Versys 650 and they will match up! Thanks!
@askaryanpulse5755 any issues with it? I'm picking up an scr also from vegas. They marked them down to $4900 and decided to trade in my interceptor 650.
@niospartan Hey there! Actually no, I haven't had a single issue! I take that back... the only issue I had was finding insurance due to Moto Morini being new in the US, most insurance companies do not have them in their system, so when you give them the VIN number, it doesn't show up. Fortunately, I jumped through all the hoops for you and STRONGLY recommend you use AllState Insurance. I did all the leg work and had Morini added to their system. Not to mention their insurance was by far the lowest around! But mechanically, no issues! Remember, it's a ER6n engine so they have been around forever and are bullet proof! Use a K&N 303 for the oil filter.. believe me, I just saved you some time right there :)
@niospartan Oh and BTW, once you get your bike, stop out to Pikeys Coffee on Decatur and Sunset on weekend morning's! There's always 20 to 50 bikes from 8am to 11am. It would be great to have another Morini to add to the group!!!
This looks way better than the MT07 because it doesn’t have the stupid rear fender. It’s powerful enough - if I was getting something just to get around town on this might tempt me.
Looks exactly like the Triumph Trident
You can find used , better motorcycles with known reliability and good resale... this is below average.
$700 more for an MT-07. I know which one I'd buy.
That's a really good point.
Xsr700 is styled closer to this.
Any non Chinese bike for sure. Many used on market less than 5k.😊
More parts available for the mt07 as well
Morini
Kpa is kilo pascals. 256 kpa is about 37psi
I don't know why my comment was removed but like what I said I have this bike and it's about $1800 cheeper in my country than Honda CB600 and Trident 660. For the price you get a lot like Brembo, ABS and good LCD screen by which now it gets Map mirroring on your phone. I don't know also why your acceleration is slower that most reviews but mine is definitely not that slow.
I bought the SCR version of this bike about a month ago and ive loved riding it. I agree that it is lazy feeling but I dont mind that. One gripe though... Its currently in the shop because it wouldnt start. Has a 3 year warranty so we will see what happens.
Update. There is a known issue by Morini. The fuel pump or hose is faulty and doesn't provide the engine with enough fuel to start properly sometimes. Morini overnight shipped the part to my local shop all covered by warranty.
I participated in a demo yesterday with the SCR. It did not want to start until I gave it throttle while starting.
@@pablofos3232 thanks for the feedback - hopefully they sort this at factory asap. don't need more food for the people who hate the bike just cuz it's built in the east
Reviewed this bike myself for my channel and thought big youtube channels would ignore this model 😂
i willcheck your video
I like the 6 1/2 badging as a nod to the older Moto Morinis. I really feel like it should be a V Twin though.
True. The v-twin 350 engine they used to produce was totally unique back in the day.
Moto Guzzi style motor would look cool
New 750cc Italian-designed 90degree V-Twin Morinis are on the way!
Wow it's been decades since I have heard of Moto Morini! I thought they had folded. My step father had one that he let us kids ride around on. Think it was a 175.
Who builds a bike in 2023 and says “gimme that signature ninja 650 sound”
Executives who have only ridden a scooter
Wow 55hp?
My Cf moto CLX 700 Sport is 50cc bigger and 20 more hp! W/ aftermarket midpipe/muffler, it weights in at about 430lbs wet.
Built as good as a Kawasaki!
It looks like the CFMOTO 700cl-x with the 650nk engine. Probably assembled in Italy from Chinese components.
They likely get the frames with engines and most of the electrics already in them
I would trust cfmoto more than this.
bikes nowadays are more focused on the torque figures and 0-100 stuff.... that's everything for Street roads.... because a track enthusiast won't settle even settle for 14 year old stock R6 or Zx6R.... 💸💸
Tbh at this price point it’s definitely too expensive for the ride and build quality, while not being special under any aspect. Though I have to admit: it’s one of the most beautiful bikes, I love what they did to the headlight (it looks way cooler than the trident, and even the CB650R’s) and the industrial design complements the bike perfectly.
Not really. The CF Moto 650 is low at $6,400 compared to other similar bikes
The build quality is excellent for the price, so you're wrong on that one. It's the engine performance that seems underwhelming considering the 650nk (same engine) go hard
@@chrispekel5709 You need to test ride one, the engine is not as underwhelming as he makes it sound.
He is low on his quoted numbers (notice how he gave a low range instead of quoting the exact factory number?)
@@briangc1972 I am in Australia and own a 2014 and did have a 2018 650nk. Haven't ridden one of the newest models so I was just comparing people's comments with my experience
Not a good review, too many incorrect facts. I bought the STR a month ago and rode it on a 2200km road trip in the Philippines with a pillion and luggage. The suspension is AMAZINGLY plush and comfortable. On less than perfect roads it soaks up the bumps and potholes like they don't even exist. The brakes are Brembo and stop as well as the brakes on my Ducati. The ABS worked flawlessly all 3 times it kicked in on a muddy slippery road. The engine is a torque monster, not a high rpm HP screamer. The bike had more than enough power for us to keep pace with other riders on 800 and 900 cc bikes in the mountains. The key to any engine is to find the power band work with the power band. We were never at the back of the pack when carving canyons. The steering is not like sport bike, it has an 18" front and long travel suspension. Even so, it is solid and planted and never felt like it was not responsive enough; even with a pillion and 35kg of luggage.
Wow just as I was thinking it could not get worse.
Nothing screams reliability like Italian motorcycle made in China, or the other way I don't care.
It's not a Chinese motorcycle, it's designed in Italy, and it's parts come from all over the world including Italy, Spain, Germany, and Japan. It maybe assembled in China but it's parts come from around the world. Same as Harley Davidson, BMW, KTM, Suzuki, Honda and every other Motorcycle made today. That use parts from the USA and Thailand and everywhere in between. Even Brembo brakes are made from parts from around the world. To say any motorcycle "comes from any particular country". Is 1950's thinking. If you think you a buying American or German you're dillusuonal, when the parts are sourced on a global scale from a global market place. Within the EU it is now illegal to use the term "made in" you either just have a countries name or "assembled in". If you live in America zoom out the world is a big place. 🙄
I think I would like to see a Morini STR style fuel tank on the Trident.
You can tell Yammie was trying real hard not to dog this bike lol
I am waiting for Corsar Sport review. it looks very promising.
As soon as i heard the price, mt07 came to mind.
2022 MT07 otd for me was $9649 1 year later and im still giggly about it.
But i can see where someone might want Moto Morinni
Nearly 10grand for an MT07 ? No thanks
Because that's a Kawasaki 650 engine tuned to comply with EURO5.
I heard that it was an Cf-moto engine, but don't know if its true. Only thing i do know, its not an Italy made bike, its china made.
I@@klausknudsen106 it;s definatly an Italian made bike.the Italians buy plenty of them,they are proud of their motorcycle heritage and wouldn't entertain buying it if it was made in China.
CFMOTO bought the Kawasaki design and tooling to make their engines. Kawasaki sold them a design that isn't optimized for US or Euro compliance and has to be detuned to meet compliance.
@@nla27 Ok that i didn't know, thanks for explaining.
@@nla27 That's true but CFMOTO moved away from that engine to KTM engines recently. These guys are using them now. CFMOTO will update their kawa engined models with KTM ones from now on.
eexcluding launch 31-62 mph in 4,5-5sec ? 61 hp at 215 kg with 75 kg rider = good joke 😉👌🏻 you have some restriced version os 40 hp max 🤭and if speedo error is huge than even less than 40 hp 👍🏻pereonally tested cb 500 restricted 35 hp 31-62 mph racebox 5,0 sec 🤭 similar weight with rider to your test 193+90 kg 👍🏻 after destriction to 57 hp it clck 3,0 sec at 2 gear from 6-6,5 to rpm limiterat 10500 rpm at 101-102 km/h on racebox with avg power at this 2 gear from dyno graph like 50 hp 😎 this seiemco have smaller diffrenc between gearlenght between 31-62 mph 1 shifts more though hovewer at 54 nm at 7 k 61 hp at 8,25 k rpm it use at least 50 hp avg between those speed diffrenc what mean it should clock 3,0 at your body weight like nobis bisnes 😉👍🏻 your test bike is not even close to 61hp 😁👌🏻🤐 or they make this power happen only on couple last gears 🤷🏻♂️🫣 dude broder man bro boi 🤐 royal enfield continental gt at 47 hp the same weight clock 6,2 sec with you body wight to 62 mph ….
Anything over 5000 USD and this won't sell. Their MSRP is very optimistic
Funny that you say it makes only 55hp, in Europe, with all the Euro5+ emissions regulations it is rated at 61hp... Also, the motor is Chinese (maybe most of the bike is, the style is definitely Italian), it's the CF-moto 650 that is a copy of the Kawasaki 650, used in models like the Versys etc...
"Quirks and features" I thought Uncle Doug De had copy right on that phrase? You might get a letter from his lawyers🤣
Just got to test ride this bike!! Coming from someone who owns an FZ6R and an Interceptor 650, these are my thoughts:
THE GOOD:
- not sure what's wrong with yams bike. 0-60 for my demo SCR was 4 seconds flat, the bike absolutely scooted and felt as fast as my FZ6. Felt about as light too; and the weight is kept low. My guess is that the bike sits closer to 450lbs wet and the hp is slightly under-reported or the gearing is just that short. No issues at all doing 100+MPH
- handling was fantastic. Incredibly modern and smooth, like riding a magic carpet. It competes with my FZ and puts my Royal Enfield to shame.
- motor is reasonably smooth with no unsettling vibrations. Just a subtle pulse which gradually increases to a minor buzz at redline. The bike let me knew it was there and I wasn't bothered with poor vibrations like on some inline 4s or twin-cyl bikes.
THE BAD:
- Motor runs worryingly hot. Like way hotter than a 650 making "55hp" should run. I've owned chinese bikes before, and this gave me similar vibes. Namely, I'd trust it to go anywhere for the first 3 years. I would NOT be confident owning this bike for the next 20 years after that.
- power is WAYYY up at the rev range. This is where it does in fact feel like an overgrown 300; I had no pull until about 5,000RPMs deep into the tach, and max thrust is basically achieved at redline. The motor is not particularly linear and makes you work to go fast. It's all the (subjectively) annoyances of a 600 supersport with none of the power.
- sounds like a far blown through a tin can. I could probably live with the revviness of the motor if it sounded like a crossplane twin but that crankshaft stops me from enjoying it whatsoever. The bike... FEELS Japanese. I truly felt like I was riding a versys 650 wearing a bow tie and a suit.
If you're looking for a raw Italian sportbike, this isn't it. This bike is something you buy as a second bike to keep miles off your project bike, or as a more attractive replacement to a scooter. If the objective is PURELY transportation in style, it's a beautiful machine. And I have faith in the Morini brand: the new 750 corsa corta v-twin bikes look incredibly promising! I hope to see more, and to see better from them in the future :)
I rde on for a month and 2200km in the Philippines last month. The bike never over heated with me, my pillion, and 35kg of luggage as we raced through the mountains in 31˚C temps
another chinese/italian bike to try is the benelli 502c
Oh wow is this the 47th p-twin in the last 3 years ! I can’t wait for more of exactly the same, but with an unknown name with low resale value !!!! Amazing!!!!
lol I get your point with the p2, but Moto Morini is an old name plate.
Ok.. so you have never heard of Brembo, KYB, Pirelli... and obviously Moto Morini (which has been making bikes for 100 years) the Engine is straight out the CFMoto Factory and is and exact copy of the Kawasaki ER6-N, Which is known for being bullet proof... so sounds to me like its just unknown to YOU.
Thisis like comparing a 6 cylinder mustaing to a v8 gt.they look the similar but performance is greatly different. That has the old kawasaki 650 twin in it so ya its gonna be last generation feeling,but still great looking bike for someone that dont care for the performance and just wants to ride the road.
CF MOTO engine while being more expensive than a CF MOTO. Might as well get the CF MOTO and be happy if you were going with the Chinese makers.
I think he said it's designed and manufactured not in China. I've seen some examples of poor design/build quality on the cfmoto 450ss. Maybe being designed/manufactured outside of China makes it an actually good bike.
@@HA_Horizons 1:14 you are right, he does say designed and manufactured in Italy. it is built in china.
@@klausknudsen106 does manufactured and built mean different things? What's the difference?
Manufacturing has to do with making the parts. Building is putting the parts together. Designed is drafting the schematics on a computer. Design has little to do with anything other than the way it looks.
@@HA_Horizons I would typically agree with you but CFMOTO bikes are different. They are actually as good as most bikes out there. While they tend to be heavier than their Japanese competitors (all Chinese bikes are), performance and build quality wise, they tend to be on par. That being said, I can’t see purchasing this bike over a CFMOTO due exclusively to the price premium. If I were going to pay more than a CFMOTO, then I’d just get a Japanese bike and call it a day.
Why do so many 650 engines struggle to make power now? Is Honda the only one that can get good power out of a 650?
I actually like the visual design of this thing…..I just dislike the Chinese company associated with this…I wish the Japanese would buy these Italian companies.
Yamaha already buy share in CFmoto, japanese are lazy these day, they only focus on high spec bike
Interesting review, interesting bike. Looks cool, great Starbucks run bike? lolol.
I'd be interested in a similar review of the ADV bike they make, the X-CAPE. Comparing that to the CF Moto ADV bike could be, ugh - fun?
I agree that it looks cool, but as the saying goes, speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?
CF Moto 700 CL-X Sport looks better, offers more power (74 hp) and costs the same $.
I just don’t see this putting a dent in the US market.
And has more dealer support
So an MT-03 competitor for MT-07 money. Basically.
I'd love to see a BMW s1000r review, I've had mine for a while now and I love it. Such a great offering and surprisingly comfortable for the performance that it delivers.
Love the look the SCR is nice I like different looking bikes
Looks great, but seems a bit dull. Still prefer the CB650R
No, China, you won't fool me.
Aww look at the failure that doesn't understand 90% of his bike contains Chinese parts lmfao
@@dcrose001 body parts? Yes, most do.
Electronics or engine? Nah, most don't, some do
@@AmritGrewal31incorrect but whatever beta. Try research next time.
@@dcrose001 k, Mr. Ultimate Alpha×Sigma. 😄
Wow, you are so smart not to get fooled when there's a thousand youtube videos that mention it's chinese made almost straight away haha
First thing I thought was that they are trying to compete with the cfmoto clx
It would interest me who would buy this over a used SV 650 or Mt 07 . You could even get them new . Cb650 t aswell
Perfect for Daily City Ride..
Royal Enfield's 650cc engine makes 47hp so 55hp isn't that bad. Not to mention Triumph's 900cc engine that makes 65hp.
Except the RE is air-cooled and still weighs less
The RE is also a bit quicker compared to the acceleration front this video and others
Yooo the RE and triumph are torque first bikes with an easy going nature. This is a naked bike, not the same vibe.
Lol the 0-100 is slower than RE and triumph
@@burnttoast9890 The 650NK which is the same frame and engine as this is *defintely* faster than the RE. I should know, I've got the NK and my friend has the RE. So someone is obviously lying
The only thing bad about it ,is the tacky rear bitza mudguard ,it would be better with a proper one . The Italian Morini ‘s were not exactly the most reliable of motorcycles ,especially in the electrics department . The better Chinese factory’s now have the latest tech ,& have seriously upped their game in the last 10 years . Most of the big name brands ,now source parts ,engines & even full motorcycles built in China & work in partnerships . These Chinese built bikes will probably be more reliable than the classic Italian ones . I own a Chinese built Suzuki & it’s build quality & reliability ,is just as good as any Japanese built Suzuki I ever owned .
I have an Xcape 650 with that same Kawasaki motor and it’s fantastic. I would buy this bike too. I’m done riding crazy and I’d rather have this than a Harley or some other cruiser with forward controls. The 3 year unlimited mileage warranty is about the best in the business as well. Moto Morini’s are awesome. Not every bike is made for riding like a jackass and that okay by me. They’re solid.
Today i borrowed this motorcycle from the dealership because my yamaha FZ1 needed service, but man what a boring bike. I dont get the fact that it only has 60hp with a 650cc twin engine. My first bike was a 2004 650cc suzuki SV and that one had 78 hp and weighed only 165kgs dry
Why do newer motorcycle downgrade in engine performance?
Really boring bike I would recommend it to nobody
nahhhh, that thing is too expensive... spend a lil more and get a mt07 or spend less to get a duke 390 which i would still prefer...
Kpa = Kilo Pascal, just another measurement. 100kPa = 14.5psi for reference
I read somewhere it's assembled in China.
I mean, i dont think its meant for speed, Im sure it supposed to be around urban and get around town and stuff.. Like yammi said.. or maybe a little crusing... and now they are 2023 on sells for 6 grand even... obvious plus TTL..... I dont know I bought a CFMOTO CL-X 700 good power, nice cafe retro look, and for some reason, everyone said this was a big deal.. but I will never use it... is cruise control... apparently for 4100 dollars, you never get crusie control. I bought a brand new 2022 model, like a coupel of weeks ago and honestly couldnt be happier..... The only thing I wish is instead of the round electronice display, it would be the 5 inch TFT display they literally put on everything else.
I have seen these on Eurocycle and have wondered how they justify the price. Higher than established Japanese and CFMOTO prices and far less hp, this will not sell unless it is the only bike in the dealership or extreme markdown.
Sad to see all these smaller motorcycle companies that were really rare and expensive, like the Moto Morini, Benelli, etc. being bought by Chinese companies and losing their craftmanship and uniqueness. Kind of degrades the brand name of the retro bikes that collectors own.
Haha, Italian 'craftsmanship' was always total garbage. People just love the nostalgia and remember the past in a more positive light
@@chrispekel5709hey, don’t talk about my aprilia caponord like that. That was a sweet bike like no other. Never let me down. I would buy a shiver 750
@@chrispekel5709 People do remember things better than they were. Talk to any motorcyclist who owned a pre-Evo engine Harley, and they were usually wrenching on it as much as they were riding it, plus it leaked oil, but there was a real love bond between the rider and their bikes. Those bikes had character, as well as the Italian bikes that sometimes put beauty of its design ahead of its reliability. (Before the Japanese bike manufacturers came along, you almost had to be a backyard mechanic to own and ride a motorcycle.)
i think my cb300r would be a good race for that.
i cant understand how someone would buy that when there are bikes like sv650 on the market.
Every Sv is made in Japan. it has a v engine that everyone discontinues due to cost, that is fine tuned for 20 years. The Engineer responsible for the mark 3 went and bought the first bike of the line because he was so proud of it, saying its a recipe perfected through the years. And SV is probably cheaper too. Maybe if you prioritise leds or screens, I don't know. I am in this shit because I love engine character and craftsmanship. I guess times change and people prefer different stuff
It looks good But.... Too heavy for a "beginner" bike. The price is too high compared to the competition.the quality is too high for the competition. The performance is too low for the price. I have no clue who this is for.
Chinese quality with Italian design, what can go wrong! I really don´t know what is more scary, electrics made by Italians or Chinese.... lol
These bikes are $4995 on Euro uncle right now lol changes everything for the price
Spaghetti -n- Pizza are both claimed them..... >> >> > Go Figure ?
Can you test their adv bike , the morini x-cape
100kPa = 1 bar.
Where I live an mt07 is 22k lol,. and this about 9k
those would be kilo-pascals, if nobody answered your tire pressure question
My CB400SF is much quicker than this.,.. 0-100kph in 5secs flat
Obfuscate… good word
He is incorrect. The bike is designed in Italy but they are all made in China
Everything is made in China, including Brembo brakes that this bike has.
The bike has 66hp not 55hp
7 seconds 0-60 whoa…. My F-Pace SUV will do that….
Not even the MORINI badges on the tank are made in Italia anymore..No thanks politely.
So you hate all bikes as all manufacturers use some Chinese parts if not entire assemblies in their bikes. Good to know you love proving your ignorance.
@dcrose001 No worries my dear friend if I'm totally ignorant in your eyes that's MUCH MUCH better than not accepting the truth and personally attacking every comment you don't like..A nice day to you sir👍👌
@@albertsammut433lol 7 subs and a 9 yr old account, zero military service and no job on record. Found the confirmed failure.
@@albertsammut433don't worry failure, you aren't my friend. Just the opposite actually as cowards like you run in fear when an alpha like me are around.
@@dcrose001 And Military jargon won't save you from the WRATH OF GOD either😁😁😁
im chinese and i found chinese weirdness funny hahaha
It reminds me of the CF Moto retro 650 they make I forget the model name or maybe compare it to the smaller displacement Moto Guzzi. An MT07 I thought was in a different category
I have ridden a lot of Royal Enfields and Guzzis and the Seiemezzo feels a lot more like a modern sportbike than the unique experiences the V7 and Conti GT offer. Yams bike has some issues or something cause the morini was absolutely scootin' and had pleeeenty of power
beautiful but... damn I wish we took back all our motorcycleand car companies
My krr150 gets to 60 quicker than that 😂
Mt03 0-60 is faster lol
Whats that riding jacket? Very nice
Rev'it is the brand.
Similar story of Benelli
Is it just me, or does it look like a Z650 RS?
China bikes always seem to make way less power
It is more user friendly at less HP.
1:02 omg its another chinese bike (*makes the chinese eyes😑) 😂😂😂
I d yake a triumph 660
Looks like a Harley Davidson X
for 5500 just get a klx300
Yeah, but that's a crap highway bike. Different class and purpose
@@chrispekel5709 i bet that things sucks too
It’s Italian all style no substance.:
Its metric mate
Those angels suck, only tire I ever replace with tread. They don’t handle well in my opinion due to their shape n hardness of the compound
But what about the devils?
why are you being so polite?
Yammie!!
That’s SI unit for pressure. 1/100 of a BAR. Note: on the side tag you probably find pressures given in bar (or in Pa) so it’s easier to compare actual values to target. Also nowadays most manometers have multiple gauges so it’s easy to use the unit your specs are given in.
Anyway if the dash can be set in metric or in imperial MM should have converted the units.
Here in my Country Ecuador I think is going to be a great product because here the price is 8.900 usd and a duke 390 is on 9.000 usd and the mt-07 is on 14.000 usd 😂😂 .
The Motor it's a Kawa 650 blueprint made by CFmoto btw same at adventura and 650nk
Saw them in person and really cool looking bikes…. Thought they were Moto Guzzi’s…. Still not ready to put $1 into a Chinese motorcycle….
Hmmm. Going to pay the same insurance premiums as every other 650 but only has the power of a 500. And how's the dealer network? Am I going to get warranty work done within 50 miles of my home? Availability of parts? Every bike needs a clutch someday.
I test rode one at Americade and really enjoyed it! Seems a good choice for someone who wants a new motorcycle without breaking the bank.
india 125 beginner bike..
usa 400 to 600 cc small bikes or beginner bikes
Maybe they should make 250cC versions of even 300 and send them to Uganda, how about that? I would love one right next to my Simba sports ++. Besides Chinese seem to know how to keep good prices when they cross over to Uganda.
180º parallel engine is obsolete by now. The 270º is such an improvement it makes no sense using an obsolete technology on a new motorcycle, especially for an unknown brand trying to make a dent in the market.
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