Why Are Chechens Fighting On Both Sides In Ukraine?
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- Chechnya is a tiny corner of Russia. It's been in the news recently as several tens of thousands of Chechen forces working as Russian paramilitaries alongside Russian forces as part of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine which started last week. In this video I'll explore the context of the First and Second Chechen Wars as well as the deployment of Chechen fighters serving both the Ukrainian and Russian armies in the Donbas region and more recently throughout the country.
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Dudaev Chechens are also fighting along with the Ukrainians today because a lot of Ukrainians have helped Chechens fight russia in both Chechen wars. Other than that, as a Ukrainian, I'm impressed by how well you have evaluated and explained the topic.
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The Truth is that the Union should never have ended, Gorbachev traitor, back in the day everyone was friend,
@@Ivan_Mikhaylov no one was friends in SSR
@@Ivan_Mikhaylov Truth is you should not invade other peoples not in your swampy empire days not in your bolshevik days. Just stay home maskal.
@@SJ-xb7lg Ukraine: "нація що батька рідного за копійку продасть" - this is the source of your problem. You can see it happening since WW2: your beloved Stepan Bandera, who was a Nazi and now a national hero of Ukraine, the current pro-American government with a comedian in charge, those neo-Nazi camps, where you brainwash children into becoming proper Nazi, Azov battalion, stealing gas from Russia for years, how your "brave" soldiers were sending rockets to villages in DNR and LNR killing thousands of civilians, and much... much more. So, please... let's not just point fingers at Russia here. Ukraine creates its own problems and kills its own people for a long time now, and mostly because a lot of Ukrainians love the notion of "independency" but in practice end up jumping ships and selling themselves out.
Employment of Chechen troops in Ukraine by Russia also intentionally done and widely publicized in social media to show Russia is fighting alongside Muslim troops against US backed coalition. This may sway the opinion of world Muslims population, frustrated by US policy in the Middle East, into supporting Russia's cause.
The national leaders are too pragmatic to break with the US over something like religion, and jihadis linked with isis or the Syrian rebels hate Russia already.
And it is working, to be honest
Fack israel usa putin
Some Muslim preachers here probably is pro-Russian simply for the fact that they're not part of the western world
@@lucasart328 based f em all
I'm from Chechnya and I was in Grozny during the attack in August 1996. It was brutal.
The amount of foreigners who fought in Chechnya was rather small. Nevertheless, we are thankful to all of them!
You should know that one-third of the Russian population has some sort of a relationship with the Ukrainians. They are either Ukrainians or have relatives living in Ukraine. There were a few dozen Ukrainians fighting alongside with the Chechens but also Ukrainians fighting on the Russian side just like today because as I said many Ukrainians live in Russia and serve in the Russian army. To us they are all part of the Russian army despite of their ethnicity even if they are Chechens.
A Chechen serving in the Russian army is automatically considered to be a traitor unless he was forced to do it for some reason. Ex. Kadyrov forces many Chechens to fight against the Ukrainians by threatening their families. My cousin is serving in the Russian army by his own will and to me he's traitor. I couldn't care less if he died today. A Chechen can NEVER serve in the Russian army and if he does he has to do everything in his power to do damage. Chechens have an indescribable hatred towards the Russian army because without any doubt they are the most cruel creatures in existence. This doesn't mean we hate normal Russian people.
As for the Ukrainians, we have only love for them as we have some history together ex. during the Holodomor the Chechens helped the Ukrainians and we also know about their suffering because of the Russians.
We support the Ukrainians today in their battle. Only some sell-outs are helping the Russians like these Kadyrovtsy but there are only a few hundred of them. Most are forced. There are many Chechens fighting alongside with the Ukrainians but they have to hide it because their families will be punished at home if the traitor Kadyrov finds out about it.
Nothing what's happening in Ukraine surprises us. We have seen worse. We've lost 30% of our population during the two bloody wars. They've killed about 50.000 of our children. During the Caucasian war in 19th century, which is the longest war in the Russian empire, Chechnya was the epicenter of the resistance. By different estimates we lost between 50-70% of our population. On February 23rd of 1944 we were exiled from our land which also killed about 40% of our population. On that day Russia celebrates "the day of the Russian army" while we mourn for the genocide they brought to our land on that day.
This should give you an idea about our feelings towards Russia and the so called "Chechens" joining the Russian army.
Thank you for sharing the TRUE STORY !! Much LOVE and RESPECT to YOU and the BEAUTIFUL CITIZENS who only wish for Peace and Prosperity no different then any other.. Its no SECRET that your Country has also SUFFERED this DEMONS RATH !! PUTIN BLAMED CHECHENIA for the MOSCOW APARTMENT ATTACKS that he PLANNED out !! EVILNESS and GREED will only give you a ONE WAY ticket to HELL !! I hope it will be worth it to these TRAITORS !! SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦
Good explained my countryman.
may your ramadhan be a blessing.
Very insightful thanks for sharing
Thank you for sharing. Its very informative. Id lik eto know what Chechens think of MMA fighter Khamzat Chimaev .
The picture of the two Ukrainian volunteers were Jewish, not Chechen
I was very confused by the characterization of Chechens as legendary Muslim fighters followed by a picture of two men wearing tefillin. Are there Jewish Chechens?
@@Nagikama chechens only follow Islam.
@@Nagikama These are jews who joined the melitia forces of the Dnipro battalion. One of them is Asher Cherkasskiy
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It was just random footage.
Just a few points of contention as this video misses a fair bit of nuance:
Around 0:45 you used a photo of Ukrainian Jews, not Chechens.
The Russian only captured Grozny once in the First Chechen War. There were two subsequent assaults by the Chechens, the first one was only developed as a short-term occupation of certain areas of the capital before a withdrawal, the second was the recapture of the city in August, which the Chechens then held with no subsequent attempts at recapture by the Russians as the Khasavyurt Accords were signed.
You said many foreign, Wahhabist fighters joined the cause. This is a bit of an overstatement. The Arab Foreign Fighters, led by Sheikh Fathi and Khattab were relatively few in number, but had significant financial backing, hence their power. I also wouldn’t say that the Chechens were radicalised solely by Wahhabism. The radicalisation stemmed from their experience in and the destruction during the war. Wahhabism acted as a ‘coping mechanism’ in some ways and an outlet to channel their radicalisation, alongside the additional benefits of a simple marriage process compared to the traditional proceedings which were expensive, and for leaders such as Basayev who ‘converted’ to Wahhabism it meant access to the lucrative streams of foreign fundings. Basayev never developed an international jihadist view, with his actions always solely focused on the North Caucasus, unlike Bin Laden or Al-Zawahiri, for example. This has remained a particularly pertinent element in the North Caucasus insurgency, roughly up until the rise of ISIS, with the West never figuring prominently in their outlook and hierarchy of enemies (I’ve digressed a bit here).
There were relatively few groups that sided with the Russians during the SCW. It was only really the Kadyrovs and Yamadayevs. The rest had already been pro-Russian since the time of the First War, predominantly from northern Chechnya. Others, like Labazanov, had sided with the Russians in 1994, but were subsequently killed. There’s also quite a bit more nuance behind Ahkmad Kadyrov’s reasoning for this - he had a long running feud with the Wahhabists that culminated in armed confrontation in Gudermes in 1998.
The Syria bit isn’t strictly true, unless I have missed some of the academic debate. Assad is a Shia Muslim, but his population are predominantly Sunni. The Chechens are Sunni, but the Kadyrovtsy were fighting on the side of a Shia government which was oppressing its people. I think it is less about integrating with the community than just using the Chechens as a disposable force. You know, less accountability for Pootin.
When it comes to the Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion - their leadership (Isa Munayev) travelled from Denmark and the Nordic countries, however they recruited heavily from elsewhere in Europe. Chechens residing in Denmark was only a minority.
In terms of the nationalist side versus religious side, this is the wrong taxonomy, secular versus Islamist would perhaps be better. Even the Islamist side e.g. Basayev retained a focus on the North Caucasus and more specifically Chechnya.
Tushaev is still alive, and there wasn’t an ambush. From what I’ve seen, the Kadyrovtsy have not done much other than wander around in the woods and ‘capture’ weapons that had been left behind. There have had some losses, but they are very minor so far.
The structure of this comment has been written as I watched, so it is a bit all over the shop, but it’s just some quick thoughts on the comments made. If anyone would like links to good academic material on the topic, I don’t mind pointing you in the right direction. This comment isn’t a dig at the video, I understand if it was supposed to be concise, but some nuance is missed or details incorrect.
You wrote a book.
I was like wtf @ 0:45 those are jewish guys.
You should do TH-cam vids
Point of clarifications:
The Assad family are Alawites. Those are usually said to have "originated in Shia Islam", but if they're Shias with heterodox beliefs or a own and distinct religious group isn't so clear. They definitively are an ethno-religious group however.
This is just to say that when someone says the Assad family is Shia it doesn't mean Shia as in Chamenei or sth.
I agree with the point about the Wahabists. Also, those Ukrainian Jews, F
@@erismana2105 I would love to mate, unfortunately the current time is a very busy period in my area of interest and I’m struggling to find the time to do alternative study. Maybe in the Summer when everything has hopefully calmed down I’ll release a few videos. We shall see. Take care.
You forgot the fact, that Ukrainian volunteers helped Dudaev fight Russians in both Chechen wars. Specifically UNA-UNSO (a Ukrainian nationalist group), which explains why there's no real hostility between Dudaev Chechens and Azov (which also includes some former UNA-UNSO members). There is very large hostility against Kadyrov Chechens, as they are seen as traitors of their own people (which they are, they are known for being greedy and doing anything for money).
There's no real indescriminate religious or ethnic hostility among even the most hardboiled far-right organisations (I know that Dudaev Chechens are pretty much universally respected). By the way Azov is considered moderate among right organisation and they have both centrists and even leftists amongs their ranks, especially considering, that they aren't a mere organisation now, but are partially included in National Guard of Ukraine (which has conscripts from general population).
The Dudaev Chechens are forever grateful to Ukraine and no doubt, given a chance, Ukraine will help them free their homeland again.
Very good summarization, thank you for that!👍
Azov is still neo nazis bruh
It's just strange to me as an American that someone would join some weird militia instead of the regular military.
"By the way Azov is considered moderate among right organisation" Nazis are moderate? Dayum.
@@viveka2994 yeah and what about it
I often find myself wondering what the veterans of the first and second Chechen wars would think about Kadyrov and his lot now.
Well, many of them are fighting for Ukraine
The man who sold out his country to russia so he can be in a position of power
The Chechen wars were complicated, I went to school with quite a few of them, including one in this video. Technically their families were pro Russian but it didn’t stop them going back to Chechnya and fighting the Russians during the school holidays. Many of them also had houses in Moscow at the same time.
@@Kkaffeine just like the Japanese sold out thier country to america. He stopped senseless bloodshed which if not would have wiped out the chechens
@@Kkaffeine his father fought the Russians in the First Chechen War but switched sides in the second.
Chechens: “I’m playing both sides so that way I always come out on top”
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"Islamic warriors". Ukrainian soldiers will give the Chechens hell (which is their eternal slumber)
@Manox I mean the Ukrainians and Chechens are both battle hardened so it will be a bloodbath
@Adam From 2014 til now they have rotation in Donetsk-Luhansk fight. Almost 50k. soldiers. Also NATO was training them different tactics.
@Adam If we go by population the Ukrainians are more battle hardened due to a bigger army on average, idk about per capita, but this is a new war which means Chechens are less motivated to fight unlike the Ukrainians who are trained by Nato and given weapons by them pretty easy to say who will come up on top.
*I am a Chechen and I am for Ukraine, Chechnya will be free!*
Free from russian coersion or from islamic fundementalism at home?
@@u2beuser714 you wrote nonsense, Islam is true, and I was not forced to do so.
@@sabcuaron5424 Жертва Дудаева не была напрасной.
As a Finn my sympathies go to any Chechen fighting for freedom from Russia. In this we are one. But Chechens fighting for Russia? Well we had our traitors who did that too and there was no mercy for them.
All hail Free Finland, Free Ukraine, Free Chechnya and free any people subjugated by eternal Russian .
@@mahapralaya999 finland is free.
I would love for you to make a video about the Georgian legion and its history, from them fighting against USSR in WW2 and now them fighting in Ukraine from 2014 to today. Its interesting, beacouse all the voulenteers going to Ukraine are being assigned to the Georgian legion.
Those are different legions. Current Georgian legion is not a continuation of ww2 legion which in it's own was not continuation of ww1 legion. "Legion" is just a common name and Georgian in front of it because it consists of Georgians.
@@khvichakuprashvili6719 I know. But they most likely took the inspiration from the old Georgian legion.
@@wierdo-jc7xv I doubt there's any real inspiration but the name. What's in your mind exactly?
GAU….. MARJOS 🇬🇪
@@khvichakuprashvili6719 yeah the name. And the fact that they were and are fighting for Georgian infependence in foreign lands.
A point that some people dont know is that some Ukrainian Nationalist fight for Chechens againt the russian in their war for independance, see by exemple Mykola Karpyuk.
My grandfather is Djackhar Dudaev, I'm so proud to share his this family blood. Very proud of Chechens who are fighting for the rights of Ukraine. I have many friend's who lived in Ukraine as well as those who joined to fight against Russia. I hope this fight ends with least bloodshed, with Ukraine emerging victorious. Endure Brothers & Sisters!
It's not the smartest thing to share such info, Kadyrov is currently having a meltdown and is afraid of any competition be well and a thousand blessings upon your bloodline as a whole
Damn you really got the legendary 0.1% blood line. I am also Chechen. Sato Family
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Ukraine is done for, your bloodline is coming to an end.
Hats off to your grandfather for standing up to the ruSSian regime.
The word jihad means struggle, not holy war. There are several types of jihad in the Qur’an, including the jihad of knowledge
Two key types of Jihad : big and small Jihad where big Jihad is the fight against your own self and small the defense of Muslims /- countries.
@@LinusIslamTips mashallah, may allah bless your CPU
@@bingletoncoochiesmith1196 thank you akhi yours too inshaAllah
Yes sure, Mahoma struggle for knowledge and also for peace and love🤣. And I'm Santa Claus!!
@@andreslebon3869 Jihad was never mean’t for strapping explosive on oneself and run a suicide mission on public space. That’s was done by someone with mentally derranged inside his head. It’s shameful act
Thanks to the Russo-Turkish wars I had Chechen and Circassian friends in Jordan, often called the land of the refugees with its long history of multiple refugee populations.
Even king David PBUH was a refugee in Jordan when his son Absalom rebelled against him and the Jordanians welcomed and helped king David PBUH.
@@healingbyqurannow there was no Jordan neither Jordanians back then. Jordan is a modern state, don’t mix things up
@@shortclips4267 Jordan always been there since the start of time, it was called beyond the Jordan in Arabic عبر الأردن
In Hebrew Urdon and same word in Arabic mentioned by that name since the start of written history in the old testament and the new testament even in the time of Muhammad PBUH mentioned by that name Urdon in some stories of the life of the prophet even the last last Kalif of the Ummah of Muhammad PBUH asked to be sent to Jordan because he knew their kindness to the refugees.
That is why where ever we go, when someone asked where are you from and we say Jordan, they ask Authentic Jordanian, which tells you much if you pay attention.
@@shortclips4267 Jordan and Syria and Palestine and Lebanon are as old as history itself.
I'm a Chechen living in jordan
The Chechens seem to be the 21st Century's Swiss. Everywhere there's a war you're going to find a Chechen. They even turned up in Iraq and fought against US forces, especially in Fallujah. They, much like the Swiss, have developed a solid reputation as being good fighters.
They were fighting both the US and Russia. ISIS was against Bashar Assad (Syiah) as well. Chechens are Sunnis (ISIS).
@@limmeiling8161
LoL not all Sunnis are isis
@@xS146roar But all ISIS jihadis were Sunnis. Taliban are Sunnis.
@@limmeiling8161
Yes but not all Sunnis are isis . Like not all shias are terrorist Hezbollah . Many US UK MPs are also Sunni.
Yea, one of the leaders of the Islamic state was a Chechen redbeard too (Abu Omer Al-Shishani)
He was talking next to the spokesman of the group while they were tearing down the syke-picot border between Iraq and Syria.
Frank Herbert based the Fremen of “Dune”on a history of the 19th century war between the Russian Empire and the Caucasian Muslims, such as the Chechens. The source he used is a book titled “The Sabres of Paradise” (1960). If you can find a copy, you will recognize many words, phrases, practices, etc, including a Sheik with mystical powers who I think is clearly the model for Paul. It is well worth a read, some of it even reads like a novel, but it is an academic history.
Interesting. I love Dune and understood it was referencing Islam a lot, but did not know it was specifically Chechens.
@@OCinneide Not specifically Chechnyans. They are one of many Muslim groups in the Caucasus mountain region. There is also a lot of Sufi Islam influences in Dune.
did herbert say this in an interview?
Nice I am going to check out that book. I love real history stories like that
@@LN.2233 he said one of his biggest inspirations was Lawerence of Arabia and had difficulty initially since the story was too much like it originally. This would make the fremen most comparable to the Arabs which they are although there is a reference to the caucus Muslim groups in the book it's clear that Saudia Arabia is a much bigger influence on Dune then Chechenya.
0:37 Those are Ukrainian Jews though
I would disagree on a lot of the wording used in this video: "islamist" "Salafism" "Jihad".. these are all buzz words that don't actually mean what you think they mean and that seem to be randomly used as interchangeable synonyms by westerners to describe radicals / extremists who claim to follow to Islamic faith which cannot be further from the truth.
Imo, the first term "Islamist" has no direct meaning whatsoever, a Muslim is Islamist it's only a synonym and not a different sect or belief. "Salafism" means to follow the "Salaf" which were the people who lived during first centuries of when the message of Islam began. It's a really short and easy to understand definition on Wikipedia. Nothing radical or extremist about the original term.
As for the third term "Jihad", it's probably the most complicated term to explain as it could mean literally anything in Islamic teachings. in Arabic, the term has various meanings that most of the time has nothing to do with "Holy war". dealing with depression or helping the poor could be considered as Jihad.
To conclude, i don't expect mainstream media to explain them nor should they have any interest in doing so. But for a TH-cam channel which seeks to spread meaningful and unbiased information, I think this becomes crucial when you start telling a "story". Cheers mate.
Of course they can mean anything, Jihad is used as a term to describe your "inner" battle, this doesn't cancel the fact that these terms have been used in historiography with precise meanings, and to those uses the reference is directed.
Also, if you don't like these outright, okay, let's just say extremist, cause it's a matter of fact that a part of Chechens inhabitants radicalized in the past decades, call it what you want, doesn't change what it is, obviously
@@gabrieleporru4443 Seems like any sort of meaningful expression of Islam is labeled extremism. Because if Islam/Muslims in anyway threatens Eurocentric hegemony, capitalism, and secularity; they are just labeled as extremists who deserve to be killed.
@@gabrieleporru4443 Get out of here with your War on Terror narrative, it's so 2002.
My thoughts exactly
the main difference between salafism and sufism here in russia is that the second group support government no matter what is happening))
A real Chechen would never support Russia
chechnya is richer and better under russia than when it was independent
@@bigboyman5743 Chechnya was only independant for a few years and in those few years it was recovering from Russian war crimes and bombing that destroyed the infrastructure and economy. Chechnya never had a chance to flourish. Also, Chechnya is not prosperous. How can a nation be prosperous if the people live in fear of the Russian backed dictator Ramzan Kadirov? He is a tyrant.
@@HistoryOfRevolutions chechnya after independence lived under a dictator who was fighting islamist warlords in the region, the whole country relied on ransoms as its economy; there was no such thing as prosperity as the whole country was run by the chechen mafia and the situation never improved until russia annexed it; if chechnya became independent again, it would be in the same mess as it was before
Say's the not Chechen on the Internet.
@Adam Egiev around 10 thousand of them have already been shown to be fighting on the Russia's side. Just saying.
That first picture of supposed Chechens fighting for Ukraine is of Ukrainian Jews
Long live Ichkeria!! ☝🏻☝🏻
The first Chechen war, I remember the time when the morale of the Russian troops were so low that a group of soldiers *sold their own tank* to Chechnians for *booze* - with which they had a great drinking party with their Chechnian adversaries. (I still have the newpaper). Now I am just waiting/ hoping for this story to repeat itself in Ukraine.
Слава России! Победа!
@@mpforeverunlimited glory to ukraine.
You are full of hate, huh? I hope that will come to your head too if you feed your puny little dark soul with such things. You hate a whole nation, that is called chauvinism, you are a bigot and hater.
Why? So Ukraine mercenaries help russia invade Poland?
Repeat itself? In a few years Chechnya was defeated and joined Russia anyway
I grew up in Sacramento CA and there's a ton of slavs there. I remember in high school there was a new kid. Some reason this guy thought he'd bully him. A couple of Ukrainian and Russian kids tried to tell him he's from Chechnya. Long story short I had never seen a bully beat up so bad in my life. I believe 100% war is in their blood.
Ok mr. anecdote who enjoys trafficking in stereotypes
Sacramento does not have a "ton of Slavs." And Sacramento County pubic schools primarily have Latinos, Asians, Pacific Islanders, Blacks, and mixed-race students. I find your story to be nonsense since I've heard the exact same "new kid from Chechnya beats up bully" story repeated several times from people claiming to have grown up in France, Germany, Spain, the UK, Denmark, and Sweden.
Why would Chechens be living in Sacramento in the first place? They're more likely to go to the EU since they're close-knit and prefer being around fellow Chechens.
@@whodoesntlikesurfing fr you wont find Chechens here unless its in Michigan or NYC
@Syphax Atlas Probably because you aren't from Sactown. The words "Sacramento" and "tons of Slavs" in the same sentence made me laugh out loud. It might have been more believable if he referenced NYC metro or Northeast Ohio or even Florida, but Chechens aren't likely to go to those places since they prefer being around established Chechen communities and closer to home.
@@Michelle_Wellbeck Except for the part about Sactown. He should have said Germany or France to make it more believable.
Recently there was a big clash in Mariupol and what's extraordinary is there was Chechens fighting on both sides of the battle !
The pro Russian Kadyrovski Chechens had to retreat when the pro Ukrainian Chechens flanked them and stormed their positions.
The pro Ukrainian Chechens are veterans from the first and second Chechen war and even though they were out gunned these crazy psychos took the fight to them and were too fast and too aggressive for the Pro Russians.
These old school Chechens literally refuse to wear body armour because they believe death is written for them and a vest won't make a difference.
So why I found this interesting is that it's practically a Chechen civil war in Mariupol right now between battle hardened veterans who have been fighting against Russia for over 20 years against Kadyrov's private army and clans men who are much better equipped and supplied but severely out matched in terms of battlefield experience and motivation.
Are you Ukrainian?
You basically described a fantasy of yours with no proof.
Bruh you just a de this bull shit up like of it was your dream where can I find the source of this is real and I know for a fact you are either ukranian or American talking bs
@Underpaid T-72 mechanic why would i accuse you of being an islamophobe when I don't even have a reason to accuse you of. I am simply refering to his made up story and i impiled that it's not proved. Otherwise i do know Chechen history, i know they are tough and resilient fighters wethere they are Qadyrov puppets or Ukrainian puppets. Since they have good experience, they are being used by both sides.
And i bet those Russians are just abandoning their equipment and just surrendering, it's the Chechen soldiers that are actually fighting and advancing in Ukraine
The fantasies people come up with....
So far the chechen units are great at securing key areas and checkpoints in the conflict, my dad fought them once already and said there the worst enemy to have
Honestly that makes plenty of sense, travel would be a lot harder than fortification in the mountains, so it would make sense to have a speciality in taking fortifications and securing them for yourselves.
Larp
Where are you getting this info from?
can you tell us more about your dad's experience ?
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 from recent events they already secured a military base and government buildings
You missed a small part of history that explains why some Chechens fight for Ukraine.
Ukrainians helped Chechens to fight Russians in their war - th-cam.com/video/lZxKx-fbeA0/w-d-xo.html
In 2014 Chechens came to help Ukraine - th-cam.com/video/8tlURRvj1PM/w-d-xo.html
Khadirov is considered a traitor of "Chechen Republic of Ichkeria".
A flawed video overall.
@@alertaidiota6227 First video is from 90s. Did you read the comments, where Chechen people are thankful for Ukrainian help? I think that says more then video itself.
@@griseohominem8309 ignore them, they’ve been around the comments getting salty at whatever doesn’t conform to their worldview. reality included, apparently.
"Chechen Republic of Ichkeria" is a dream for refugee in France and Sweden whatever, all bulsht and stateless race mindset
@@griseohominem8309 What are you even talking about? I was referring to Hilbert's..
Real Chechens will never stop their fight for freedom and homeland. Kadyrov and his men can’t even be called Chechens they forgot about their ancestors struggle and all the blood they sacrificed for this generation and swapped it with a bit of 💰. If Shamil Basayev was alive today Kadyrov would never step foot in Grozny let alone be in power.
Facts has been spoken
What the fuck do you know about Chechen history, Latino?
@@ChessJitsu He actually told straight facts
You are right
@@ChessJitsu don't have to be racist he supports Chechnya.
How beautiful are the lands of Chechnya!
@Dima Groza. Since I am from UK, I see those beautiful mountains and then expect to see Simon Reeve next, thanks to his travel programmes.
That was my thought as well. Would love to go there if I wasn't an American.
@BORZ Being American doesn't make it fun or safe to travel to a lot of places. I am making an inaccurate assumption about today's Chechnya, perhaps, but I am not up for testing the waters.
Great video, BUT...
Sooooo, the picture of those 2 Ukrainian father and son soldiers in the opening?
They're Ukrainian Jewish men. Not Chechnians. Please change it. I expected you of all people to be more thorough with research, not to be rude.
Yeah... That mistake was rather embarrassing, lol.
Two important notes.
1. It's not a "civil war in Ukraine" when it's waged by Russian citizens with links to Russian foreign intelligence, which they openly admitted, and officers of regular Russian army "on vacation" armed with all manner of Russian heavy weaponry they "bought in a military surplus store". The only reason why Russia created and bankrolled the Donetsk and Luhansk "republics" was so that it could pretend to remain a 3rd party and avoid the international backlash, which sort of worked. It worked well enough that Putin expected to get away with the 2022 phase of this war too.
2. The 2nd Chechen War didn't just break out all of a sudden. It was devised by Putin as a quick triumph to win voter support ahead of the presidential election. For that he created a Chechen terrorist threat by staging a false flag terrorist attack: blowing 4 apartment blocks in Russia. There's good evidence it was done by FSB (Putin's previous workplace), but official story was about a "Chechen trace". which was immediately used as pretext for the 2nd Chechen War. While Putin did become president, the blitzkrieg in Chechnya didn't quite go to plan. Other suspected false flag terrorist attacks in Russia took place. What followed was a massive wave of racism towards all so-called "persons of Caucasus nationality" i.e. anyone who looked somewhat Chechen.
Itz still a civil war😂
What about gorgia they terrorist to?
It is a civil war. Unless you don't consider the Russophones of Donbas to be Ukrainian. Which, frankly, it seems the Ukrainian nationalists, including those in the post-2014 coup, don't seem to think. Hence why they waged an eight year long war against people who they supposedly consider to be citizens of their country.
@@JohnSmith-jo1fs You're speaking to a Russophone.
@@Pandamasque Okay
The battalions mentioned are part of the National Guard, not the army.
and they are Nazis
@@Ivan_Mikhaylov cry about it?
Azov batalion?
@@Ivan_Mikhaylov Chechens who fought Russians for their independence, is Nazis;
@@alexandrosmironis6093 they're are not Nazis, just Islamic fundamentalists, their "independence" goal was to transform Caucasus into a Afghanistan or Iran, I'm glad we defeat them.. the situation down there is shit of course but it could be worse if wasn't for the intervention.. comrades from Daguestan supported us by the way... Also the Chechen rebels were sponsored by the CIA so fuck them
My theory that it hasn't helped is twofold. First is exactly what you pointed out you cannot rely on conscripts that can get out of fighting their "brothers" if they know if they buy their time and then get away from the war. Secondly, I think the fact that the Russians needed to bring in the Chechens and make a big deal of it only serves to stroke the ego of the Ukrainians, in that the Russians are facing such stiff resistance from outgunned and outmanned forces they needed to bring their crack troops in.
And their crack troops are still being gunned down and taking heavy losses from the Ukrainians, talk about another ego boost to Ukraine and ego bash to the Russians 😂
Both of these comments are strange. The Ukrainian army admits that it does not control most of the airspace over the country (this was stated by both the President of Ukraine, who asked for weapons to fight aviation, and a huge number of destroyed military strategic objects with the help of aviation, therefore it is for the Russians. In modern warfare, an army controlling the sky cannot physically bear losses higher than the enemy. Also, it is impossible to know about the losses of the enemy, the parties to the conflict do not exchange the data of the killed with each other. So how did you both decide that the Russians are suffering more losses than the Ukrainians? From Ukrainians? Obviously, yes.
Well, a little hint for reflection, if you really want to think a little. Ukrainian troops place military equipment in residential areas (there are a lot of videos of disgruntled Ukrainians asking to drive vehicles away from houses, most often they are artillery guns), they also do not allow civilians to evacuate from cities (There is a lot of material, like the Ukrainian military, on the territory controlled by them block roads to exit with concrete blocks, obviously for those who understand in weapons that this is against civilian transport). Attention question! If Russians (according to the endless lies of Ukrainians) shoot at civilians, why does the Ukrainian Army hide equipment and not let people out of cities?
Well, also, take the Twitter of the Ukrainian army, and review it with a cool head. You will be surprised, but there is evidence of war crimes of the Ukrainian army, and there are more Nazi views than in Russian propaganda. They literally accused the Russians of shelling, and two hours later they deleted the post, and said it was their own shell.. Knowing that they had hit their own citizens, they wrote that they were Russians. And then they deleted the post when sensible people started asking questions.
@@pinpilot980 The Russian airforce doesnt have full control of the skies. Two what koolaid are you drinking to say its the Ukranians who are keeping their own civilians in the cities just to get them killed. Third a urban and defensive war always favors the defenders. Fourth the russians have accidentally given a min total death count of 4,500 due to special military operations in Ukraine. Also you are right on that one post but that is not all incidents.
@@pinpilot980 Also you do realize their in city fights so concrete and czech barriers are to stop TANKS not just CIVILIAN TRANSPORTS. Stop believing the russian lie that the whole of the nation on Ukraine is ruled by neo-Nazis one regiment who is only tolerated becuase Ukraine needs the men does not a nation make. Weapons will be in civilian areas when you are fighting in the middle of cities moron.
@@Denozo88 dude that a bot or a russian troll dont try to resonate whit it its just trying to say shit when they start talking about warcrime you know that its not a real person (whit a brain at less)
Interesting fact few hundreds Ukrainians from UNA-UNSO fought for independent Chechnya and even some streets in Grozny was called after them
Not hundreds.. the amount of Ukrainians fighting in Ichkeria never exceeded 80 .. but even this number is probably too high ..
36 seconds in this video and I already see a BIG mistake: 00:36 those guy are ukranian jews, not muslim Chechens.
Chechans are pretty much real life Mandalorians
7:45
It is NOT a civil war in Ukraine in 2014. Russia invaded Ukraine and occupied Donbass and Crimea. It is a critical distinction.
Totaly right
You can look at Azov and Chechens battalion cooperation on videos of 2015-2018, they are really good buddies they like to cooperate and talks about each other like brothers.
Where can I watch the videos
i would like to watch
Cursed timeline. I thought the memes about the ISIS soldier shaking hands with the Nazi soldier were just jokes.
@@unsrescyldas9745, except the Chechen fight Russia because they are nationalists who want freedom for their homeland, not for Islam or others pretentious excuses. They may like to employ religious symbolism, but nationalism is the key here. ISIS on the others hand, are a bunch of Islamist retards.
How can you defeat an enemy who looks down the barrel of gun and sees paradise?
By having your forces fighting for their freedom, family, and homes.
Kadyrovites belong in hell
By pulling the trigger.
@@czevzi as a Chechen, I second this.
@@czevzi The Bloc of Rights and Kadyrovites
First video of yours I have watched and I subbed instantly. I am part Ukrainian but mostly British so have been blissfully ignorant to most of this until recent events. I've just been googling Chechnya's involvement, knowing nothing of the history and quite confused. This video has really helped me understand more about the situation. Thank you!
P.S I love that you are clearly English but put a lot of effort into pronouncing names and places correctly. I am useless with languages so maybe you are pronouncing them wrong but sounds pretty legit to me. It's a nuance lacking by most English speaking journalists/ reporters that generally butcher the words. Nice touch mate!
We do love our Hilbert
There's two things I know about Chechens, they're not push overs and they love to fight. But I fear the best of them died fighting Russia.
i think a series about the arab spring and its consequences for each country ect could be very interesting
With due respect, this dude is too incompetent to pull something like that off.
@@alertaidiota6227 yep he got everything about Islam in this video wrong.
@@kingshortpants8403 Facts
@@kingshortpants8403 like
Arab spring was horrible
Г1овта чехка майра к1ентий, ла илах1а илла Аллах
Даймехка Сий ларда г1овта, ла илах1а илла Аллах
Аллах1у Акбар
THANK YOU for showing the REAL Chechen flag. May Allah bless the soul of Amir Al-Khattab and all of the REAL lions of Islam who died defending the FREEDOM of the Chechen people....
Missing the BORZ
Hello Hilbert. I saw a video on TH-cam already about this (that looked computer enhanced in parts).
I had wondered about Georgians. I noticed someone else asking about this already, without going through all the comments.
Some years back I was channel hopping on TV and RT had a headline "War Is On" about Georgia. I thought at the time that this seemed ominous. I had never seen a TV channel treat the subject so glibly.
Fox News lol
This was extremely interesting. Thank you!
Excellent Intel brief Hilbert !!!
Very detailed, thank you for the history lesson ;-)
Hilbert, can you please make a video on what Hungary did in WW2. Thank you very much.
The camps of far-right militiamen and Chechen Islamists probably aren't as tense as you'd think. Ukraine isn't trying to conquer Chechnya, nor vice-versa. They both want freedom from Russia. They're both highly nationalist groups united under a common cause of hating a third nation. They've got a lot in common, even if those commonalities take different forms.
Thank you for providing the perfect amount of information about a VERY complex historical situation without overwhelming us with too much detail. Even though I'm a political scientist by training and I paid attention to news reporting of the two Chechen-Russian wars at the time, it was quite a while ago and my memories of them were a bit fuzzy. You've cleared the cobwebs very efficiently. :-) Slava Ukraini!
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The article about the High ranking chechen leader “that was killed” turned out to be fake since He Himself Said it, and also Kadyrov publicated a Video of Him Calling that man and Telling him about the Article that said He was killed.. those posts were taken down by instagram along with Kadyrov s whole account which had like 5 milion followers
Because you can buy followers or even likes. Even the Kardashians do that. Governments also pay to bump up their likes too
@@sagapoetic8990 do you have any proof
@@Beef-bullion the Guy who was killed posted a video of himself saying he didn’t die, I ve seen it on several social media apps, If I ll see it on youtube too I will send the link
@@raul9648 can you send me the link? please
Yeah, their still alive. i saw that video in youtube to
Those who fight for Ukraine remember Shamil Basayev and his fight for his fatherland. Those who fight for Russia are just loyal to Ramzan as “putin’s soldiers”
I think Ukraine should officialy recognize Chechenia as a free independent country now. That will show Kadyrov forces in bad light as a traitots who fight against their own fatherland. And Zelensky should encurage Chechens to rise against Russian once again because they and Kadyrovcy are busy in the Ukraine right now.
Actually chechens and Azov battalion are great friends
Not true
@@CoolAdam247 Chechens who oppose putler and kadyrov are a gun brothers with Azov. And not only chechens, russian opposition, belarusians etc...
Not true, azov is a far right with facism ideology, they hate musl!m. They also put the pork fat to their bullet for Chechnya.
Hello everyone. I am happy to see that people around the world interested in war in my country.
"there are also chechens fighting on the other side"
*shows picture of jewish volunteers*
Same bro
The very first photo of the pro ukranian Chechins is clearly two orthodox Jewish men praying lol. This is obviously thoroughly researched.
Reason on russian side: money
Reasons on ukrainian side: honor
Dont watched the video. Just assuming.
Shamil Basayev is ultimate Chechen chad
Some of the most horrifying images and footage I have ever seen came from the Chechen War. Some scarred me for life
Would imagine there are still hold outs from the Islamic state.
The battle of grozny is compared to Stalingrad WWII.
I'll try to give a summary of how this played out here.
When Dudayev became the leader of Chechnya in 1991, he established autonomy and self-governance for Chechnya (but not full independence). Unfortunately, he also ran the place into the ground. His poor goverance and authoritarianism led to an opposition to form against him. Russia supported this opposition, as Russia also opposed Dudayev's dream of independence. The First Chechen War started following a failed anti-Dudayev rebellion in November 1994 by Russian-backed Chechens, after which point the Russians realised that they could only get rid of Dudayev and squash the independence movement by sending troops. Russia lost that war, and Chechnya retained its autonomy.
However, following the end of the first war, Chechnya began a turn to hardline Islamism. This led to an attempt by Chechen Islamists to invade neighbouring Dagestan in 1999, hoping to create a pan-Caucasian Islamic state. (The Dagestanis did not welcome them.) Russia went back into Chechnya to repel the rebels, and this time, crushed them (laying waste to Grozny in the process). Dudayev would have loathed the jihadists, notwithstanding their shared goal of independence, but having been assassinated in 1996, there wasn't anything he could do to stop them.
Akhmad Kadyrov had supported Dudayev and independence in the first war. But in the lead-up to or during the second war, he (and his family) changed sides and began supporting Russia. Many reasons have been suggested for this: personal ambition, economic pragmatism as he faced Chechnya's crippling poverty, but the biggest influence seems to have been a rejection of the jihadism that had crept into the second war.
When he was assassinated by Chechen, anti-Russian, supporters of independence in 2004, as revenge for his defection, his son Ramzan was a natural choice for Putin as a replacement. Ramzan had already been pro-Russia, but now had the added reason of avenging his father's death.
That appears to be the big split in Chechnya: those loyal to Dudayev, and those loyal to Kadyrov. Those loyal to Dudayev are far more likely to support Chechen independence.
@@ibra1616 Would you say that means about 90% of Chechens still support independence (as opposed to mere autonomy)? Or is it lower than that despite the hatred for Kadyrov?
Your average Chechen is already a "hardline islamist". They went to Dagestan because groups within Dagestan fighting for independence asked them for support and the second Chechen war was already planned and would happen regardless of the "invasion" of Dagestan.
Dudayev was a muslim himself, there are images of him doing the pilgrimage to Mecca and he turned to the Islamic world for support when he realised no one else would. Those 'jihadists' funded and fought for the Chechen cause when nobody else would.
My father fought and died in the first war he was a dagestani fighting for the chechen (muslim) side. The chechen jihadist in the second war were just not wanted by the dagestani officials (pro russian) not the general dagestani public. You also have to understand that dagestani is not one ethnic like chechens, we have over 40 different erhnics here in dagestans like Avars, Kumuks, laks etc etc
@@spZHacK May your father rest in peace like all the brave mujahideen of the kavkaz.
@@ibra1616 I see. Thanks for your information.
Thank you brave Chechen warriors that fight for freedom one day Chechnya will be forever free.
"time and again they were beaten back by the Chechens."
Because some don't learn from history.
Thank you for making this!
The great worriers of Chechnya salute to their bravery.
As far as the wars name i think considering the 3 main belligerents (Ukraine Russia Belarus) the 3 brothers war is kinda appropriate naming as opposed to the Russo-Ukrainian conflict or anything like that
It's the East Slavic Military Crisis. That's a better name.
@@modmaker7617 i suppose we will find out when the historians get to being boring and go with Russo-Ukrainian conflict lmao
How about the Kyiv Russ Successors War of Cultural Independence and Integral Security? KRSWCIIS! Rolls off the tongue!
@@idleishde6124 lmao the historians most certainly not that creative
Ukrainians have a distinct culture, are Catholics ( not orthodox) and their own language. The Soviets caused 11 million Ukrainians to starve to death in the 1930s to feed Russian factory workers. Definitely not brother’s after this last latest episode of repression.
WOW very interesting. Thank you. Kevin from sunny Mexico.
At 0 :36 those are Jews not Chechens. Actually I'm interested in knowing how many of Ukraine’s Jews are taking up arms
You should read about the orthodox battalion in the isreali defence force
It's an inaccurate cliché to say Chechnya is "an incredibly mountainous" area (1.18). Most of Chechnya is flat or low hills. Less than a fifth is mountainous.
That moment when you feel like the Chechens are modern day Persian Immortals.
Dude Chechen Snipers were and still are a major threat in Syria.
I remember hearing a joke one time that went like this:
Russians are the ultimate white gus cause they're tough, brutal and cold. But Chechens are the ultimate villains because they're white and Muslim
White and muslim cos they join the enemy, I prefer chechens that dont convert when invaded. wouldnt want chechens guarding my back, looks like join who ever is winning .
@@tonupharry, bullshit :)
so white muslims are the most tough people in the world ??
The native Russians have a low birthrate while the Chechen population is growing and there is abundance of fighting-age men there.
@@eeriecold1147 no
excellent explanation
Thank you for showing this. We, people of the East Europe, are very familiar with this story but others may not so this is important to tell.
Respect to the ones helping Ukraine.
I appreciate how you make the effort to pronounce the names and locations correctly. Your Arabic/Islamic names are on fleek.
This is so hilarious to me.
"We weren't expecting special forces!"
Wherever there’s war, you’ll find Chechens. These men love fighting. Just give him a dagger or sword LOL 😂
Maby autor this Chanel would like to make interview with someone from chechen’s battalion who fights against Russian? Maybe I can help with this)
Luhansk is pronounced with an "h" by both Eastern and Western Ukrainians. Eastern Ukrainians, either those whose first language happens to be Russian, or bilinguals, - both speak with a so-called "Malorosian dialect" of Russian, common in Ukraine and Belarus (with exception of the capital of Minsk). In Ukrainian language and in Malorosian dialect of Russian "g" is soft, largely pronounced as a hard "h" sound. In much of Russia, however, - g is pronounced as just that. Thus Lugansk is written with a "g" in both Russian and Ukrainian, but that "g" is pronounced as "h" in Ukraine and parts of Belarus. My Belarusian friend is from Minsk and according to him, - Minsk is one city which speaks such old school Russian, that it is more grammatically and phonetically impeccable than even the Russian spoken in many parts of Russia. He says that he laughed at many Ukrainian and Western media videos which claimed that the rebels in the Eastern Ukraine were really "Russian soldiers" because is nearly all such videos the rebels spoke with a very characteristic Malorosian dialect, so it was pretty self-evident that they were indeed - locals, rather than Russian soldiers. It was, however, more convenient for Western Ukrainians to believe that they were Russians, because that way they could remain in denial that what's happening in Donbass is indeed, - a Ukrainian civil war.
😂😂😂Слава Україні🇺🇦🇺🇦 nice pipe dream buddy. You should also mention the Holodomor and the Russification of Ukraine during the Soviet Union, that is why eastern Ukraine has a lot of Russian speakers.
“Malorussian” stemming from the Russian words “little and Russian” is an attempt at Russian propagandists to justify their invasion of a nation of people with an entire separate history and culture who do not want them. This term is an attempt to form the idea that ukraine is some kind of little offspring of russia, however ukrainian, language, culture and customs all trace back further than Moscow itself. The Ukrainian coat of arms was made in times of the Kyivan Rus (note that in this period the extension rus is a reference to ruthenia and has nothing to do with Russia, in fact the word Russia was first written in the 1800s)
10:44 My heart glowed and tears dropped from my eyes when I heard that my fellow compatriots Azeris served alongside with our Chechen brothers.
We will never knee in front of russia in sha Allah
@@nohchi948 inshallah brother
@@nohchi948 zelensky is jews.. u kiss him 😂
At the end putin gonna win both war .. economy and invade
@@fadlisuryanto8617 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
the chechens aligned with ukraine are spiritual and literal kin to independent chechnya before moscow invaded them
95% of chechens support ukraine. Its just that chechens in chechnya cannot express themselves freely or they will get kidnapped and killed and relatives tortured. Im chechen.
Magomed Tushayev (ChenChen general) is not dead.
Russia should be divided in few countries. There live just too many nations
But EVERYWHERE in Russia, Russians are more than others. Also, Russia is already divided, Ukraine, Belarus, Middle Asia and others are Russia
Free Bashkortostan, free Tatarstan, free Chuvashia, free Yakutia etc...
@@theossy1996 its only your dreams
@Oscar where are you from ? Just interesting)
Thank you.
kadyrov dogs vs ichkerians (real chechens)
that's a lie Luhansk and Donetsk and Krym was not a civilwar it was direct Russian invasion but they didn't had any military patches or flags on them but as a Ukrainian that has and knows full information about 2014 occupation by Russians was in fact a Russian invasion not a civilwar so please correct your statement about Luhansk and Donetsk with Krym
Sheikh Mansur battalion is going to start fighting in occupied Chechnya.
Great vid. Great info. Unfortunate situations. Peace.
3:32 “radicalize” by turning into “salafisim”? Excuse me, do you even know what you’re talking about? That’s literally “traditionalism”, and you calling them “radical” is extremely disgusting; truly showed your ignorance…
Hilbert's brain has been rotted by the War on Terror narrative. Anysort of Islam that doesn't comport to modernity of anysort is labeled "extremism."
@@umidazimi3706 fr
Because it is
He's non-Muslim, as far as he's concerned any meaningful expression of Islam is extreme.
@@jackparker8602 Billions of people around the world aren't Liberals, get over it.
May all people soon meet with full, open, clear, and strong hearts to live, live, and create with joy
Together, in peace, forever.
слава народу!
I definitely would support the side that is fighting for a free Chechnya.
You should make a video on the ukrainian tatars
@Gustavo Firing. From my learning about history through wargames, I always think of these from Crimean War and Lithuanian Tartars from the Napoleonic Wars. Maybe a video on each?
@@alansmithee8831 yeah and I think their are volga tatars too
The brave Muslim warriors Chechnya
Hey Hilbert, have you seen the video of the Azov battalion soldier dipping his bullets in pig lard in order to shoot them at the Chechens fighting for Russia?
Soldiers from Dzokhar Dudayev battalion: That wasn't very halal of you
Though ain't that kind of reduce the bullet's effectiveness?
I seen it. Didn't understand it until now. I have been going into a deep dive to understand what is happening over there. I am learning it is very involved in a long complicated history which most wars consist of.
You mean Russian Muslims?
@@eliasziad7864 Not all Russian Muslims are Chechens. There's also the Ingush, Avar, Dargin, Lak, and what's left of the Circassians in Russia (most natives of the North Caucasus are Muslims). Also Turkic people like the Tatars (Volga, Siberian), Bashkirs, Karachays, and Balkars, the last two are in North Caucasus.
@@farizkeren5730 tatarstan and kazan
We killed chechins in Afghanistan too that we’re fighting w the taliban or whoever was paying them. They had the same kind of gear we had which was scary. They just fight for whoever
If your assertions are true I doubt they chechens were there for money
There were no chechens in afghanistan. And if you did fight a chechen, you've probably mistaken one for a chechen
the last time there were chechens in afghanistan was during the soviet-afghan war
it is quite an offence to call the war started in 2014 in Ukraine a "civil war". the two self-proclaimed countries are controlled by russia, finansed by it, russian troops are forming their "defence armies", most of their goverment officials are rusian citizens and some have now even become members of the russian parliament. Russia claims the conflict to be a "civil war" as part of their hybrid war srategy, so by saying that you support russian agenda, which is offensive
Maybe they should have stopped shelling for 8 years. Good riddance with the Ukrop ways. Greetings from Deutschland
@@rekamud6635 8 years again... Mariupol was shelled all those 8 years, as well as other sities and towns on ukrainian side. why do russians not see that? by the way, there were investigations prooving some of Donetsk bombings were done by russians to blame ukrainians, but maybe you don't have access to the internet in Deutscland, i can't tell
It's a Russian civil war🚬🗿
@@basenwagen german comes in, says how it is and leaves.
Meanwhile the ukrainian ukrop tells me mariopol civilians got shelled for 8 years when 14000 in donbass lost their lives all while metabiota operates in ukraine, a huge leukemia outbreak occures and russia first struck all US biolaboratories. Just pawns in the game, the german and the russian know how to deal with it and brothers should not wage war.
Hilbert you should make a video about the Chechen Wars.
I believe you are from few that has the closest understanding and the right informations …I was surprised and glad at the same time add to it that I know all this complicated cross lines in all the events that you talked about and you successfully
Made it …clear pure energy you have
An amazing background…keep going you are helping others to be close as much as they can to the true events and the facts ..I appreciate the efforts this Video is a light .