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- ProBoxTV: If you were the 154 king-maker, how would you devise the ideal tournament to create an undisputed champion?
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I think Madrimov is the man at 154lbs. He's almost the complete package at this weight class and I see him beating everybody. I feel Crawford vs Madrimov was our modern day version of Mayweather vs Canelo. Where the young fighter just wasn't ready for the big time, but will go on to be great
@brandongarcia4838 😂😂😂 gtfoh Madrimov is nothing at 154. Ortiz, Bohachuk, Murtaliev all beat him down. They all give Crapford a beat down as well.
Right on point
Tim's unexpected loss made the 154 division tricky..... Nobody knew he was gonna lose like that.... It's up in the air when it comes to who's gonna run that division....
Never understood the hype about him. Not a shock to me personally.
Nothing is "tricky" he just lost, that's it😂
@@mrgrandi tricky in terms of not knowing who's running the division because of all of the talent
Not tricky, one less man to determine who's the best. Now they just need to stop ducking each other and fight.
@@mrgrandi basically charlo was the guy at 154 tim was the other guy now the division has +6 fighters in the mix with the likes of
Bud,madrimov,Bohachuk,ortiz,fundora,
2.Spence,Thurman,mendoza,zayas,guy that cooked tim,lubin,etc
There is a LOT of names at 154.. Now sum1 has tu become undisputed tu b "THE TOP" like Jermell Charlo did...
Fun fact for those that dont watch boxing on multiple levels....
Madrimov stopped murtazaliev in the amateurs and beat him more than once, tim tszyu gets demolished and now everyone talking about this monster that no one knew before or backed against tim yet now want to sing his praises yet madrimov and crawford still dont get credit for there fight people need to show respect where due all across the board.
154 is wide open at the moment just last year charlo was the undisputed champ but tim tszyu was apparently the unstoppable machine coming for his crown, fondora was being knocked out, ortiz was looming in the background inactive with high profile, even though he held a belt madrimov and murtazaliev was basically unknown despite there accolades and crawford was in the weight class below. Now at 154 4belt era we have fondora with 2belts crawford and murtazaliev 1 belt each and non of the names thought to be at the top this time last year are. Crawford, madrimov and murtazaliev are top 3 at 154 right now from what weve seen; charlo and spence are ment to be back but we have to see something to know anything and fondora has to defend those belts in a whole new landscape cant wait to see it all unfold
Haney also beat Ryan and look what happened to him. And I don’t want to hear he was using peds cause that was bs. Leading up to the fight he had already tested negative
Styles makes fights. Don't read too much into this fight.
Shawn Porter beat Usyk in the amateurs, whats your point?
Ugas cooked bud in the amateurs, beteebiev beat usyk the amateurs and sparrung don't mean ish buddy
Even Erik morales was whooping Floyd in the gym and pacquiao getting worked by khan and porter stop being a casual that thinks sparring mean anything
😂😂😂 Love the way people take what's said out of context and run with it. No one said anything about sparring, haney or Floyd etc....... Yeah your all right from that point of view and yes Styles do make fights each person can beat another and all I stated was that basically fondora and murtazaliev have both beaten Tim who had a belt at one point but who had he fought to say he was the guy at 154? Fondora was gifted decision and murtazaliev smashed Tim to pieces so that shows me levels, crawford like him or not was the guy at 147 and pound for pound he moved up and had a close fight with madrimov so that put madrimov in the elite conversation so those 3 are proven the rest need to mix it up to see where they at
Bakhram I think is the top of the tree here. Fundora at the bottom and he has two belts.
154 been hot yall killing me with this 🤦🏾♂️Belts changed hands so many times before charlo collected them all.
Jermall said no to the Russian even paid him 2 mil 😂
The same guy that Murtazaliev destroyed was ducked by Charlo for years. Than went to jail on purpose to hide from Crawford after that beating he put on his boy 😂😂😂
@@StarryNight4024 that has nothing to do with the division already being hot
@@StarryNight4024 still crying over Timmy's destruction? your tears are
sweet AF
Damn imagine a Turki alashiek super 6 tournament 🤌
Hear me out. I know he hasn't earned it yet, but he is on the rise. And, more importantly, Arum won't allow it just yet BUT... Fundora v Zayas. That would be an interesting match-up.
Lmao Crawford can’t sell a wing dinner 😂😂😂
That’s his own problem. He built his tower , but how big a tower can you build in Omaha
Crawford is going go start losing sometime. He knows it. That’s why he’s picking his fights so carefully. He’s still one of the best.
Two many people protecting their zero’s. We need a tournament.
The world know the energy of American boxers. Too dangerous low reward. Fundora, Spence, and Crawford are all gonna be waiting around to fight each other. Bohachuk, Murtazaliev, and Madrimov gonna have to destroy each other for that IBF belt.
154 is on fire .
He’ll yeah…. Keep pushing this so that way the gate keepers will have to give us what we want
Xander Zayas is coming strong don't sleep on him
😴
154 been hot and what’s crazy it’s only getting popular because Vergil bud and Tim names were getting bigger no one was talking about the time when charlo and castano were going at it madrimov having the Soro saga Fundora coming in hot and bakhram quietly fighting on pbc there’s more names to mention but that doesn’t even do justice on how deep this division has always been
Vlad Hernandez needs a shot at Tszu now , we been wanting that fight. We’ll also take Bakhram
I dont want my favourite boxers to have hard fights everytime but I want them to tell me who they aiming for.
gay AF...you're condoning ducking...lol @ "hard fight"...softest shit I read today...
Throw Brandon Adams in that mix. He knocked out Bohachuk
He’s one of Madrimovs Sparring partners as well
And you still got guys like Erickson lubin, the guy who lubin “beat” in his last fight to add to how deep the weight class is
@Cassernn I hear Madrimov is a beast in sparring
@Cassernn he's the kind of guy Paulie was talking about. 1 loss and his promoter put him on the shelf for 3 years. Adams should've sued him
@@BruteStrength99 he is I heard he knocked out Fundora in sparring and dropped Murtazeliev in sparring repeatedly like 2 years ago but sparring is sparring
zayas, mielnicki, madrimov, brandon, all at the belt fight stage. Sidenotes now, Spence doesn’t deserve fundora but fundora wants him. I hope spence has some of his old spark left and makes it a decent fight. I hope the pbc doesn’t hide the belt like they did before. Can or will tyzu learn a little defense? And finally the wild card, will boots give up on the avoiders at 147 and make a 154 entry?
Paulie is right! There will not be just one.
No talks of Lubin and Charlo????
Bums
Not only did Lublin get Kd twice but in betting he isn’t jumping at the opportunity to fight Murtazaliev either.
who's Charlo?
154 tournament
Every one forgetting about Brian Mendoza 💥💥💥💥 LA BALA
Spence went the whole year without fighting plus almost half of 2023....Bud really did put an ass whooping on him
Dangg Algerie looks like Trevor McCumby or Vice Versa😳
26 seconds is crazy
First 🥇
This aint reddit or instagram my baby boi
Crawfords name is known, but him at 154lbs? No way.... No way is he on top of the mount at 154 with only ONE fight at tht weight class!
Love Teddy!
Virgil is the future!
I agree about Crawford. Man has gone undisputed in 2 different divisions. The only fight for him at 154 is a Spence rematch bc it’s the only PPV fight on the table. That and possible a Jermell Charlo fight but Charlo would have to score an amazing knockout vs Jesus Ramos in their upcoming fight and that’s not gonna happen. It’s Canelo or bust, and that fight ain’t ever happening. He’s gonna possibly fight Connor McGregor and then retire.
To be honest all bud has to do is weight for the main dude to beat the scraps and then he comes and takes them if no canelo he will be around one more year
madrimov is the complete boxer at 154
Well Tszyu got a title shot straight after losing to Fundora
It’s happening, almost. I’ve seen what the pbc does to lock up a belt. Fundora and spence, is a pbc joke? Will they turn it into a fundora-spence-jermell merry go round for years along with rematches too?
Crawford vs Fundora
Spence vs Vergil
winner vs winner
Madrimov vs Bohachuk
Boots vs Bakhram
winner vs winner
and then the last 2 men standing for the undisputed championship
Being Real though .. Bud is amazing but human .. so he doesn't have that many good years left and I still think Canelo is too Big.. So my faves are Bud v Vergil or Bud v Boots assuming Boots will battle at 54.. or Bud or Vergil v Bakhram is probably great too although I've never seen Tim as being on a level w Bud, Vergil or Boots and PS Sugar Ray Leonard was probably the overall Best of the 4 Kings but Roberto Duran was our Fave!
Spence is supposed to be a stepping stone for some random up-and-coming fighter after collecting 3 welterweight belts one-by-one, bringing us the first welterweight undisputed fight in the 4 belt era, and selling out arenas in Dallas/LA/Brooklyn?
Respectfully, sit tf down, Pauline.
I was thinking the same thing as he said it! He lost bad yes but Crawford is still an all time great. I hope he comes back strong just to shut everyone up
@@RaEscobar26 Spence is too damn stupid to take a tune up fight, so I wouldn't
put too much faith in him...
@@remyogun8270Honestly a tune up won’t do Errol much. If he’s done like most people think he is, then it’s best to see it in his first fight back rather than a fight against Bud again.
@@210tx what? 🤦🏿♂️ this is exactly why he definitely needs a tune up!
Any of these 54 versus Virgil Ortiz its war 😂
Crawford is looking for a Canelo fight. Ortiz vs Bakhram. Makes sense. Crawford may take a Connor fight and just keep relevant until retirement.
Black rob dropped a album after whoa it’s called life stories. Actually dropped two albums on bad boy. And g dep dropped child of the ghetto after let’s get it. He also had special delivery as a single. Sometimes ya facts be way off/wrong vlad.
Chrislook like a 70s orno star
So does 140 .. deactivate the “super “champions ability to duck their mandatories as well 140 definitely needs a tournament..tired of seeing that the vision get held up
Crawford is looking for Canelo or a high profile star matchup. 154 would have to be Unifed before he gets involved for an undesputed in 1 fight
stop making excuses...he needs to retire if he don't want to fight nobody
Madrimov v Murtazaliev
Ortiz Jr v Crawford
Spence v Tzsyu
Fundora v Crawford
Have you guys noticed that where ever weight Crawford fights that weight class gets light. Cos there's no weight class that has juicy news more than 154 pounds weight class.
Bud cleans it out
this is false...
Murtaza means the Chosen One in arabic
Fundora, Ortuz, Murtaliev were all ducked by Crapford 😂
I love Teddy but here he goes again with the endless analogies and overthinking everything.
ONG...I'm one of the few who liked it when Larry Merchant did it...
@@remyogun8270 Larry did it a lot but still not as much as Teddy plus he was better at it. You can look at Teddy and throw out an ice breaker about the weather being nice today and he would go all Aristotle about it.
I got Madridov unifying if Crawford doesn’t, I had him before the Crawford fight if Crawford didn’t go to 154
@the_gibber999 😂 Thanks for the laugh 😂. Madrimov isn't unifying anything. They'll all whoop his ass.
@@Rocco-4-Life name all of them. The only other fight in and around that weight division is Ennis.
@@Rocco-4-Life he’ll beat Virgil, Boachuck, Spence idk I’ll give Madridov the activity edge, he’ll beat Fundora, out box him, he’ll be Charlo, he’ll beat Tysu and the guy who just beat him, he already beat.
@the_gibber999 Casual 🤣 Boots is at 147, not 154. Murtaliev, Jermell, Ortiz, Tim, Fundora would all whoop Madrimov and Crapford with ease. Tell me again how you don't know shyte about boxing 🤣
@@Rocco-4-Life you just told me you know absolutely nothing about boxing. And you are a fanboy/girl. The fact that you said boots is at 147 like that is a reason he would not fight at 154 is how I know you’re a casual. Canelo is at 168, yet fought and loss at 175, why did he fight at 175 if he fights at 168? Casual, you exposed yourself.
Crawford swept 140 and 147
Unified a weak 140 and beat a damaged goods Spence who had all the belts.
I still have Crawford as my p4p fighter but just not at 154.
Crawford will only fight Spence( if he beats fundora) or Canelo. If fundora wins, Crawford will fight Canelo or retire.
@@InsiderTimes-d6q he was apparently in negotiations with Tim Tsyzu for a fight during Riyadh season that’s pretty much a done deal now.
I think your 95% correct I think if fundora wins Crawford will fight him
If they all fight each other Crawford comes out on top. Yes Ali lost after he lost 3 years out the ring for refusing to go to war. So we never saw him in his prime. Let’s take a closer look at his losses. All were after his boxing ban, he lost to Frazer and beat him back twice, lost to Norton and beat him back twice. Then he lost as an old man already with Parkinson’s disease so shouldn’t have been fighting he lost to Spinks and still beat him back then lost to Homes & Berbeck. Ali’s era is unequaled. With Liston, Foreman, Frazer & Norton who all would have dominated in any other era however Ali came out on top.
Tim was talkin hella shit too saying he was a step aside fighter and this and that
Crawford gets a pass but Canelo doesn’t. Pauline bias af
Cope
Canelo hasn't fought Benavidez yet and its been THREE years. You need to stop fanboying
@@StarryNight4024 he’s been busy fighting his other mandatory’s. He’s also gonna fight him later he’s just marinating the fight
@@oscarcarrillo2468 He's been fighting lesser known, lower level mandos. That makes no sense unless Benavidez is a threat. Like these guys said in this video, fighters like Canelo take these soft touches and they have a group of casual fans that worship him and well defend him no matter what. You are the perfect example of that fan they were talking about. Nice job 👏
Casual there are other belts than the wbc. All Benavides had to do was invoke his mandatory and they would have fought or Canelo would have got stripped. Also those guys are well know to true boxing fans
Bud will fight none of them💔
i dont think spence or charlo ever fights again,charlo made a canelo payday,and spence took a beating and neither seem that motivated to fight
Both are fighting next year lol Spence vs fundora and Charlie is on the undercard of benavidez vs morrell
Jermell is in talks to fight Ramos
Jaron Ennis beats everyone at 154
But he won’t budge to go there stop it 54 hit different
I bet bakram fights winner of Madi vs bochuk
It was more star power and a deeper division 3-4 years ago but now that most are _____yal say anything
Budland
TBC is good and has had a great career but I don't think he can compete at 154 with these guys. I think maybe if he would have made the move like 7 years ago. Just suck how PBC blocked him from getting big fights and it didn't help he was with big rat bob arum and top rank!!!!
Watch him continue dominating
I don’t know if he dominates but I would favor him slightly over everyone at 154
Crawford beat Madrimov and people are still sleeping on Madrimov. Agree with Teddy that Crawford is the most accomplished of the 154 pounders but Murtazaliev is one tough dude for even Crawford. However, skills pay the bills and Bud ha a lot of skills but will he fight again at 154?
Facts: Crawford cleans out 147 moves up to 154. Spence is ruined by him. Pandora, uh, I mean Fundora accidentally beats Tszyu. But that Russian (forgot name), then KO’s Tszyu which our professional commenters defend, he’s just made a mistake. Nope, that Russian can fight, that’s all. Better than all or most at 154. Lack of today’s bs promo, that’s all. Others we know jumping on this 154 bandwagon just seeking bucks vs any risk of competing. Forget Spence (ruined) vs Fundora (lucky); give us Crawford vs that Russian!
And: if Crawford is too classy let Fundora try against Murtazaliev (the unknown Russian). After Murtazaliev proves Fundora was bs bc Tszyu is bs, now Crawford takes on Murtazaliev. Get it?
Jermell charlo?
3 of 4 would’ve beaten Charlo
Did they let Algerie out the cage ?
The biggest meme of all time to not go viral.
These casuals don’t remember.
I do though. Annoying to see nobody remind Chris of it
Xander Zayas is coming
So Crawford has done enough with a weak resume so he can stick everyone but canelo who had a much better resume hadn't done enough dam these guys straight canelo haters. Pro box is a bunch of clowns
Weak with accolades he still had to win to jump classes fight guys bigger than him came from 135 p4p #1 got the belts and did his justice u capping weak or not he still followed the game plan
So why do we make excuses for Crawford it's Canelo or bust he's donr alot in his career so has Canelo so when Canelo doesn't want to fight Benividez or Crawford he gets criticized craw has a belt at 154 though guys are tough fights Crawford doesn't get anything out of it Canelo is almost as old as Crawford he has a better resume he deserves to take it easy just like Crawford does
exactly...these dudes are straight up hypocrites
I’m not so excited about Crawford. Yeah he’s good, but his resume isn’t that amazing until just recently and he fights once a year if that.
why isn’t Paulie crying about Crawford holding a belt hostage. Paulie’s mouth 👉🏽 🍩 spewing nonsense
Crawford will not fight any of these guys let alone the wrecking ball Murtazaliev. Not happening.
Teddy always rambles on n on lol
Matchup Crawford with Murtazaliev I wanna see something.
Na
Bud one of my favorites but he is too old at this point he gets clobbered!!!
@@cesardelcid7301 lmao hell no
@@marvjay718 CRAWFORD GETS ICED COLD
@@Lenomarinanah definitely not I’ve seen Murtazeliev struggle against gate keepers, Tim just had a awful gameplan
Crawford the best according to Atlas? What a joke. Atlas and all these commentators are biased towards Black American fighters. Atlas' hatred towards Latinos is legendary.
Virgil ortiz looks the best
If he boxes more.
Pauline always hatin on Tank & Canelo 😂 he a pure hater bruh
Crawford beats Murtazaleiv, Fundora beats Spence. Crawford beats Fundora
Yea let's just ignore the man that was the undisputed champion in the weight class because he lost to a guy two weight classes above his weight. Smh. JERMELL CHARLO is the top if the devision. Everyone in that devision is a paper champion. You have to beat him to be the man.
Lubin is going to beat Murtazaliev. Remember this.
Gervonte is trying to fight shakur and 20 fights loma
Murtazaliev He used to train with Robert Garcia th-cam.com/video/DjGtWarFZOw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dMIWGa543i5lNel6
If they all fight each other Crawford comes out on top. Yes Ali lost after he lost 3 years out the ring for refusing to go to war. So we never saw him in his prime. Let’s take a closer look at his losses. All were after his boxing ban, he lost to Frazer and beat him back twice, lost to Norton and beat him back twice. Then he lost as an old man already with Parkinson’s disease so shouldn’t have been fighting he lost to Spinks and still beat him back then lost to Homes & Berbeck. Ali’s era is unequaled. With Liston, Foreman, Frazer & Norton who all would have dominated in any other era however Ali came out on top.