Hello there, I just unboxed the 2500 and it sounds noticeably rougher than yours. I don't really have any experience with reels so i figured I'd ask for your recommendation.
Thankyou for always buying these new reels and testing them out and coming back with legit unbiased good reviews. I wish I had the money to try these things out myself but I’m balling on a college budget so I really like doing my homework before making a big financial decision
I'm balling on a college budget as well.... I earn 1/10th on TH-cam vs what I made in big pharma or when I had an audio video integration business.... But my mortgage and bills get paid... And I have a lovely gal who supports me doing this :)
Tackle Advisors - that’s awesome, having a girl (or any support system) that allows you pursue your passions is amazing. I’m only 23 so I’m hoping that by the time I finish dental school I’ll be able to afford to do more of what I enjoy and follow my passions. Unfortunately I haven’t found a girl that has the same vision as mine but I’m sure I will eventually, or maybe I’ll just keep collecting Australian Shepherds 😆. Wasn’t tryna insinuate that you’ve rolling in it, I know YT hasn’t been very lucrative for creators and infact they’ve been cutting back on the $$ while increasing the workload/stress so even bigger props for doing what you do. 🤙🏻
@@MIAthe305 You're a youngin yet...lol...Holy shit I feel old sayin that....Just turned 38 over the weekend......It took me 33 years to find this gem...I dated a girl previously for 6 years too long just because her last name was trout...lol...when I was your age I was focused on stats...lmao Don't marry the wrong one and you'll have plenty of coinage to throw around once you start practicing. My concern when I first started youtube was how long before youtube turns into network television.......and more and more it's leaning that way.....it has to...with all the trigger monsters and SJW's advertisers want safety nets and controls........A few more good months and I'll finally be able to invest in other endeavors....until then....just have to deal with getting hosed by the algorythm...lol
After more than 10 days of nonstop fishing with stradic fl 5000 xg , i can say honestly this reel is just a big win for anyone who is looking for light setup , used with crony sea cliff 9' rod @30lb shimano tanatura braided line n landed countless of different species , three things noticed cranking power for such small reel , better casting n won't flex under relatively heavy tension . Great reel shimano but please watch out for ur qc dept. paint work blemish n better handle play back tolarence ,still very minor tho.
Nick , my stradic 3000 fl , got dunked accidentally last week on the flats. Just rinsed it off real good. 7 days later she’s still smooth. Whatever they did , it works.
Hi tackle advisors! I just wantet to thank you for your reviews! just got my shimano stradic ordered of ebay and so far i absolutely love the reel! super smooth. It was an upgrade to my daiwa bg(well worth the money), witch has started to fail on me. i paired it up with an okuma expinor 10' travel rod and the combination is a perfect inshore combination for trout and pike. love your content and thank you for existing and helping me out! keep making awesome content! All the best!
OMG....I almost sh%t myself when I thought you werent going to do the old handle knob test.....but you got it in there...right at the end!!!!! LOL....cant wait for full review..
LOL...I was battling a migraine that was so bad it woke my ass up....and got worse......My hands were shaky when cutting the package open lol...still shaky while I type this....but yeah.....couldn't forget that. And they did a great job on this example...hopefully it's consistennt.
Hey I've been fishing with Shimano for the past 30 some years I have a fx that's over 30 years old and still working as it did when I got it I caught two beautiful browns with it the other day all my reels are Shimano except my two fly rods happy fishing
Nice reel. I'm a Penn guy. I'm currently fishing inshore with a Penn Clash II 2500/10lb braid/ Star Seagis rod. Penn has really stepped their game up over the last few years... And yes Shimano makes a great reel.. Several friends fish with Stradics...
Thanks for this vid! I just have a quick question. How did you feel about this FL reel vs. Saltist Back Bay? Since you had the SBB before, it would be easier for you to compare :)
Thank you to all those who showed up when ya received the notification!!!!! Much appreciated! If ya heard me whine a few weeks ago in the community tab about youtube not pushing my video out to people...This time they did. The same amount of notifications went out.....and the same percentage showed....But this time they put the thumbnail in front of 10x the amount of people (who then clicked on the video at the same exact rate) Over 1000 views the first hour compared to 200 on videos past.....Strange how youtube works..... :)
Hey man...can you do me a flavor....2 things...have you ordered and received the reel from that listing? If not. Please remove that link. I don't want to remove your post as you put a good amount of thought and effort into it. But I don't want people getting taken.....Ali is reputable but there are bogus listings or listings that claim ship dates that don't meet them by months. Thanks man. I know you're just trying to help.
While I think daiwa and shimano baitcasters give each other a run for their money, I honestly think the LT series does the best job in terms of spinning reels (at least for my style)
I like that they offer the 2 gear ratios in this size in the states........But yeah...until the stradic ci4 comes out....the tatula and ballistic would likely fish better due to the ounce and a half savings in weight.....I have em all from the exist certate fuego ballistic tatula etc in this size......I gotta say though...The stock knob on the stradic feels nicer...and I like the drag knob and tall spool of the stradic......but the weight difference is noticeable on my steez ags 7'6
Just curious, in what regard? Line lay, casting distance, smoothness or is it weight as mentioned? Haven’t pulled the trigger on a LT yet, will have to import one to get the right ratio and the shallow PE-spool.
Veronica Fanquist I have neck and shoulder issues so light weight is key but also performance. I can put 4lb test on a Daiwa exceler one day and put 30 lb test on the next and still have the same performance. (Seriously, I’ve done it) I’m a multi species fisherman so I don’t usually go for specialty styled reels and gear. I want something I can fish for carp one day, bluegill the next, and pull in a bull redfish a week later and 22lbs of drag does it just fine at a killer price point especially when it was on sale a few months back
I actually didn't receive a notification, but the video did show up in my personal feed. I used to receive email notifications when your new videos dropped, but recently I only get notifications by email sporadically for all of my subscriptions. Thanks for your work by the way. I love your videos, I have a "gear junkie" problem.
Herbert Gearing same. I did recieve a notification about this video though, but literally no other notification for another video for the whole day! I also have that ”gear nerd” problem. Nice gear just makes the fishing experience better!
Does it have THE CHEAP FEELING? I experienced that feeling with 19 Vanquish. I can't wait to see your $200 reel comp. Thanks, and keep making good videos!
TO save time and unessary tear downs which does damage....I'm going to compare it after I compare the ballstic and tatula to the stradic.....I'll ahve them all apart when I tear them down...gonna sand down the rotor to see if the ballistic is paint or plastic
I have the Ci4 FB 2500 with low gear ratio and the reel is performing very well. I would really really like to try the new Certate LT 2500D but there is no way I can motivate it when I have my ci4. Maybe I could justify an upgrade when the new ci4 comes atleast...
I FINALLY got an FL! Got one today here in Tampa. I'm pretty sure i got the last one available here in Florida haha. Can't find them anywhere at the moment. No where online or any store I've been to until today! Got the 4K and it's buttery smooth. However, my Daiwa Saltist Back Bay 4K is slightly smoother. I've dunked my my Back Bay multiple times now in the kayak inshore and it's still like new. Will see how this Stradic holds up to the saltwater over time. Tight lines and as always enjoy your videos.
Yes a serviceable line roller! In my opinion a great improvement. That line roller assembly was something that made me NOT buy the Stradic FK or other recent mid to high end spinners. Don't like Magseal for the same reason. Gotta give fishermen the option to service reels themselves!
Felix Lux Nothing stopping you servicing a magseal, I do and I'm no one special. Finding the most cost efficient fluid for your region is the hardest part.
@@Kaptainrdean You're right. But what about magseal bearings when they're done? You're kinda forced to get the Daiwa ones, as far as I know. Also servicing with the fluid is a massive complication in my opinion. More difficult, more time consuming, availability issues... If it was the ticket to never or hardly ever servicing magsealed parts/areas again I'd be all for it, but it's not. Don't get me wrong I have 3 Daiwa BC's (as well as Shimano's and other brands) at home, not a fanboy. But Magseal ist just the single most annoying feature ever in my opinion. Similar to a stupid 1pc line roller + line roller bearing assembly of many recent smaller Shimano spinners.
Felix Lux You have me in regards to replacing the bearings, which fortunately I have not needed to do, yet! Yes, I've no doubt they are expensive and have you cornered in that department, since it's already quite well known that they're all weird sizes. I invested in all daiwa magsealed reals when upgrading from my previous reels I carefully maintained for 10 years and yes, they are more time consuming, but because that's what I have and they are all very similar, I guess I've accepted it for what it is and become fairly efficient servicing them. I have bg mags, ballistics and a theory btw, so nothing even slightly old, other than a prototype theory, which got me sold on the magseal thing in the first place. I had trouble with shimano bearings about 12 years ago and never went back, but have always taken an interest in the stradics from afar, 😁 hence why I'm here!
Stradic ci4 are $330 (5000 don't come in ci4 but are ci4 money) & $270 for standard in Australia, I will buy discount Fk as I have done before for around $200
So I just received the 5000 FL from JandH and I love how it feels, however, I feel like the power handle is adding a little bit of wobble. Any experience with the 5000 size doing that?
My only hesitation to those about to run out or log in to purchase immediately, just consider if you are going to be content when the shiny ci4 version comes out, and maybe you should, if history repeats this version will be the tougher of the two
I want a big reel with a lower gear ratio for pulling power. But the 5000 FL has a gear ratio of 6.2:1. shimano should make a lower ratio version , like 5.2 :1 or even 4.9:1
Hey bro I just ordered this reel because of the reviews and this one so thanks and I can't wait to get it on THURSDAYYYYY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MEEEEEE LOL I subbed btw. Awesome review and breakdown man
I ordered my Stradic Ci4 from the European market to the the 5.1 ratio. No one ever talks about the lower gear ratios especially with spinners. Another great video.
Was sweating this one out, passed up on another ballistic at TD last week knowing this being released soon. Gotta be low ratio so must get it from over seas. 200? Seems 2 good to be true. Ur the man Scoob!
The search for a well sealed spinning reel that's lightweight, dunkable for more than 30 seconds, and around $200 continues. Ballistic is just a hair over $200 but the mag seals are still an issue when servicing is concerned. Looking forward to your comparison between this and a few other reels in this price range. I mean I get why this one isn't as well sealed as say a Spheros, because then why would you pay more for a heavier equally-sealed reel. But maybe if the sealing was on par with the Spheros, but the gearing was a tad weaker, then maybe that could justify the price difference.
@@aquaholiklee Damn I never realized that. Does penn incorporate a body seal into the smaller size spinfisher VI reels, like the 2500? I know they're a bit heavier and not as smooth as daiwa or shimano reels at that price point, but that sealing seems like a nice feature to have for the money and size.
@@aquaholiklee Gotcha. It's crazy the amount of knowledge that you and TA possess, I'm just now learning about a lot of this stuff. Thanks for the input.
@@aquaholiklee Yeah I'm certainly no fanboy either. Just bought my first non-ugly stik rod due to BPS gift cards, it's a St. Croix Mojo Bass 7' MHF, absolutely love it (mainly the weight and sensitivity). I've been buying reels for a long time but really only recently put a lot of thought into them. Got a BG2500 and have loved it the past 2 years, and love my old baitrunner 4500B. I was thinking of upgrading the bearings on the baitrunner but I'm not sure if it's worth it. I'm also looking to replace my aging Sahara 4000FD, I've had it serviced but it feels like it's on it's last legs, just grinds and skips under heavy drag pressures, I replaced the drive and pinion gears because I thought that was the cause, but the new gears have the same issue. Maybe it's an oscillation issue? Looking to get a nice saltwater rated reel that can hold about 250-300 yards of 30lb braid, puts out around 20lb drag, certainly lots of options, heck might even just do another BG, maybe a 3500 or 4000.
@@aquaholiklee good to know, thank you. I feel like st. croix makes really nice rods, since they have a lot of buying power, seemingly. It's crazy all the options out there for spinning rods between 100-200$. Lots of crap I imagine. I did try a loomis e6x inshore but it didn't feel any better to me than the mojo bass, and it was about 70$ more expensive and didn't come in a split grip like I wanted
Since you ( and Elias ) have had nice things to say about the low cost Okuma Epixor spinner, why not tear down and compare their higher price reels? The Helios reels appear to be the top of the line for fresh water, though I've used an older model inshore, as well as a slightly less expensive Inspira. The new Azores Blue 40 is intended for Salt, and the only difference between it and the lower cost older silver colored ones is the line capacity. Both come with carbon fiber drags.
@@ianundercover6295 Thanks for that information. I was misled, perhaps unintentionally, by a tackle vendor I contacted. Given the number of different reels, and manufacturers, and their constant "improvements", it's difficult to keep them all straight.
They just can't seem to make up their minds on those aluminium spool shafts... First found on smaller Stella's then much later on Stradic Ci4 F's and then disappeared off that line to the FA going back to stainless Steel, then reappeared in the FB to Aluminium... Now its found on the Stradic general line... Not sure how that's going to work in comparison to how they're treated usually for their price range. The non folding handle - hmm going to be hard to store that now - I typically just unwound it to a point folded it in and put a hair tie around it to immobilise it when stored on the rod in transit or in its protective bag - now it's either on or off... See how many more stripped handle gear threads will come of it? While on price... They're $339 (1000) ~ $389 (5000) here in Australia... You guys have it pretty good I reckon! They'll see lots of online trade for the low gear ratio reels!
I found it interesting...which is why it sorta stood out..also the differnt color rubber seal....wondering if it's a different durameter rating.....same color as the penn seal at the pinion traverse.......I think the handle thing is hit or miss....Not a big plus...but I'd take that in trade for something else they included for the $$. Assuming it was cheaper to mfr in one piece.....What did the FK sell for over there? As long as gear ratios count as different non market specific variants I assume it'll fly.....they sold out on ebay. Or shimano put the kabosh on it.
It's hard to say what the seals are like without seeing one, but if they're anything like (hard & ill fitting) seals on the FK AR seal - let's really hope not... The seals should be more supple and finer contact lips for contact against the mating surface if they want them to actually work... Like the FE Stella AR top seal etc... These seals should be replaced in time but is well worth it imho. The handle - let's go with less parts, less cost and less warranty with the folding design... But I can see people stripping the inner of the main gear as it'll become a more on & off design. But ultimately a stronger handle connection and positive feel while in use - as no extra parts or play. The FK sold stably here at around $230 / $250 after the initial price came down normally ($330'ish), and recently you can pick them up for around $190 on run out naturally - I think they may even come down lower than that... We're only seeing the HG variations here in Aus (going by schematics & online lists), there is a huge market for the 5.#:1 ratios and for people like myself who prefer low ratios - but typically we'll follow the US trends even if our fishing styles are totally different - I guess why people are holding onto old reels due to being forced to use something they don't agree or are happy with... I mean look at all the MM gears that are going / wearing out now /compared to the old clunky cut gear's which lasted decades - it has me pretty worried about the longevity of these new reels and the availability of gear sets into the future...
As far as I can tell the mm gears in the spinners are found in the idlers than run the oscillation... Not too much load there and they seem to wear gracefully. The main gear set even if they added a dozen teeth should still manage adequate geometry to last. And it's the inherent design of a baitcasters drag putting all the force on the gear teeth where as with spinners it all stops with the clutch. The shimano handle threading is the most 300 lb gorilla friendly in the business.. Van Staal and Daiwa are more easily damaged. I'd bet that would be a small fraction of the repairs that shimano service sees
@@TackleAdvisors I'm just about to replace a Stella SW-B 4000 gearset that's been stripped out by improper handle insertion. They do happen even to the best & most careful of owners.
Dude...these handles rock....carbon fiber and great quality cheap..this is the one I'm using on the exist but they make em for all shimano reels too bit.ly/daiwadoublehandle
Would be nice for float and feeder fishing on commercial fisheries in the UK. Wouldn't fancy using it if I was a sea angler but as a course angler float and feeder fishing for small carp tench or bream or fishing for perch with spinners it would be spot on.
Yerrrrrrr. Love these videos. I have a shit ton of FKs and one FL. I’m curious - do you think the line roller bearing assembly fits the fks? I’m so tired of waiting on shimano for back ordered parts. I’m looking for a way to simplify bearing replacement for the fk line roller. Help a brother out!
Aren't Dam reels now just OEM? I had one a long time ago....I grew up fishing their fishing line 30 years ago....My father picked up a spool of their 4lb test when he was in germany....used it for the first few years of my childhood fishing :)
@@TackleAdvisors I have no idea to be honest, but their products quality has been consistent over the years, not to mention that they have more than 100 years in the fishing tackle trade.
I paid 180 from malaysia...looks like shimano shut down the link..at 2pm it was there now it's gone. It's heavier for it' size. But better every other way that's important. The ci4+ based on this design would be better than this reel....
Thanks for bringing up double handle! Question - I have stradic ci4 1000fb on my ultra light rod. which size for double handle will you recommend for very slow and steady retrieve? 38 or 45mm? also yumeya have 10 and 14 models (yumeya 10 stella mg and yumeya 14 stella mg) They are both available in 38 and 45 . do you know the difference? It's been really hard to find much info on this handle. Thanks again.
are they going to come out with bigger versions of this reel above 5000? It would be a much better version of the Penn 5500 LC which has a similar sized spool
Thanks for the video. Which size would you recommend for targeting striped bass out of a kayak? I was leaning toward the 4000. Do you think this reel will stand up to splashed over the bow etc or should I look for something better sealed
Back bay......Tighter main gear and pinion tolerance....and the back bay is the smoother reel....That series of reels is a freak...I just saw the Daiwa Phantom LT which is an alumium framed Tatula LT which looks interesting....may pick one up frm malaysia.
Thanks for this. Can we still put the carbon stack into this one like we all did on the fk? I read you said that the 3000 has carbon drag? Is the one in the states gonna come thing carbon drag?
Why do reviewers fail to demonstrate the reel's line laying abilities, with braid and mono? It is, for me, one of the most important aspects of the reel, and why I own two Stradics. I don't want to know about how smart the reel the reel looks, what custom extras I can add, to me that is all total bo****ks! A reel review should include not only line lay, but fishing abilities.I just returned a Penn Clash, and its replacement because the line lay is dire, not just on my reels, but on all the Clash models.I tried all the spacing washers supplied, eventually using custom shims, but still couldn't get a line lay level enough to reflect the reel's cost.
98% agree with you... Line management is the most important. Line lay is part of that but you don't necessarily need laser level line lay stacked at 15 degrees to cast and perform incredible. Penn and their Las Gen of reels battle 2 fierce 2 had issues in that the reel will play a part in throwing "wind knots". Daiwa and shimano and long cast designs from others do an incredible job. Daiwa and okuma doing the best without using a worm driven oscillation...better than Shimano's locomotion driven systems... But worm driven shimano reels are the best
At least that double worked on it as well. It's still a few nicer reels they offer over there with it but the offerings here are slim aside from the Spirex.
@@TackleAdvisors lol that's awesome. People still stop me when I'm using my old Spirex 2000fd asking about it. I always tell them I can't swear by the newer ones because I haven't used them, but if they are at least what mine is can't beat it for the price. I've pulled in some pretty big fish with it, even nice stripers and gar.
@@TackleAdvisors appreciate that link though, Shimano charges a whole reel almost for the parts handles direct from them, so for $42 carbon...can't beat it.
@@bassnazi4713 my pops used to use nothing but spirexes for the quickfire 2 feature.....I'd steal his handles and put em on my magnesium stradics....that was 20 years ago lol
@@TackleAdvisors lol exactly, quick fire is great especially on the techniques where it doesn't hurt to have line feed out. Many get it and still expect the instant anti reverse but it can't with it being able to line right up. Never bothers me with it since usually i am using lighter stuff and have my hand on the handle
Here's the Full review and comparison between This reel and it's Predecessor the Shimano Stradic FK th-cam.com/video/4kQ3lcs0A_8/w-d-xo.html
Hello there, I just unboxed the 2500 and it sounds noticeably rougher than yours. I don't really have any experience with reels so i figured I'd ask for your recommendation.
Thankyou for always buying these new reels and testing them out and coming back with legit unbiased good reviews. I wish I had the money to try these things out myself but I’m balling on a college budget so I really like doing my homework before making a big financial decision
I'm balling on a college budget as well.... I earn 1/10th on TH-cam vs what I made in big pharma or when I had an audio video integration business.... But my mortgage and bills get paid... And I have a lovely gal who supports me doing this :)
Tackle Advisors - that’s awesome, having a girl (or any support system) that allows you pursue your passions is amazing. I’m only 23 so I’m hoping that by the time I finish dental school I’ll be able to afford to do more of what I enjoy and follow my passions. Unfortunately I haven’t found a girl that has the same vision as mine but I’m sure I will eventually, or maybe I’ll just keep collecting Australian Shepherds 😆. Wasn’t tryna insinuate that you’ve rolling in it, I know YT hasn’t been very lucrative for creators and infact they’ve been cutting back on the $$ while increasing the workload/stress so even bigger props for doing what you do. 🤙🏻
@@MIAthe305 You're a youngin yet...lol...Holy shit I feel old sayin that....Just turned 38 over the weekend......It took me 33 years to find this gem...I dated a girl previously for 6 years too long just because her last name was trout...lol...when I was your age I was focused on stats...lmao Don't marry the wrong one and you'll have plenty of coinage to throw around once you start practicing. My concern when I first started youtube was how long before youtube turns into network television.......and more and more it's leaning that way.....it has to...with all the trigger monsters and SJW's advertisers want safety nets and controls........A few more good months and I'll finally be able to invest in other endeavors....until then....just have to deal with getting hosed by the algorythm...lol
@@MIAthe305 penida fishing
Of course I buy a Stradic Ci4+ right before the new Stradics start to launch... Hey, two Stradics never hurt anybody, right?
Not on this planet :)
2 might hurt the wallet a bit. LOL
I find it easier to justify when i "need" a different size, something to consider. On another note its looks danm good with the double paddle
FL has a lot better quality on it though I’m not going to lie.
After more than 10 days of nonstop fishing with stradic fl 5000 xg , i can say honestly this reel is just a big win for anyone who is looking for light setup , used with crony sea cliff 9' rod @30lb shimano tanatura braided line n landed countless of different species , three things noticed cranking power for such small reel , better casting n won't flex under relatively heavy tension . Great reel shimano but please watch out for ur qc dept. paint work blemish n better handle play back tolarence ,still very minor tho.
Nick , my stradic 3000 fl , got dunked accidentally last week on the flats. Just rinsed it off real good. 7 days later she’s still smooth. Whatever they did , it works.
Hi tackle advisors! I just wantet to thank you for your reviews! just got my shimano stradic ordered of ebay and so far i absolutely love the reel! super smooth. It was an upgrade to my daiwa bg(well worth the money), witch has started to fail on me. i paired it up with an okuma expinor 10' travel rod and the combination is a perfect inshore combination for trout and pike. love your content and thank you for existing and helping me out! keep making awesome content! All the best!
I won my 3000HG on the JandH giveaway!! Can’t wait to use it for albie season!!! Great review as always 👍🏽
That's one hell of a good giveaway prize!!. How do you like the reel?
OMG....I almost sh%t myself when I thought you werent going to do the old handle knob test.....but you got it in there...right at the end!!!!! LOL....cant wait for full review..
LOL...I was battling a migraine that was so bad it woke my ass up....and got worse......My hands were shaky when cutting the package open lol...still shaky while I type this....but yeah.....couldn't forget that. And they did a great job on this example...hopefully it's consistennt.
The Daiwa LT's are the reels to beat now.
Are they really that good? I'm almost about to buy a stradic but I was always a daiwa user
wrearry the Freams is a great reel without spending too much $$$
Fancy 2 for feeder fishing in the UK.
Shimano stradic beats most the lts even ones more expensive
Hey I've been fishing with Shimano for the past 30 some years I have a fx that's over 30 years old and still working as it did when I got it I caught two beautiful browns with it the other day all my reels are Shimano except my two fly rods happy fishing
Can you tell me what is the different between 5000XG and 5000FL and which one is better? Thanks
Nice reel. I'm a Penn guy. I'm currently fishing inshore with a Penn Clash II 2500/10lb braid/ Star Seagis rod. Penn has really stepped their game up over the last few years...
And yes Shimano makes a great reel.. Several friends fish with Stradics...
Thanks for this vid!
I just have a quick question. How did you feel about this FL reel vs. Saltist Back Bay? Since you had the SBB before, it would be easier for you to compare :)
I'd really like to know the answer to this too!
Thank you to all those who showed up when ya received the notification!!!!! Much appreciated! If ya heard me whine a few weeks ago in the community tab about youtube not pushing my video out to people...This time they did. The same amount of notifications went out.....and the same percentage showed....But this time they put the thumbnail in front of 10x the amount of people (who then clicked on the video at the same exact rate) Over 1000 views the first hour compared to 200 on videos past.....Strange how youtube works..... :)
can i have the link to this reel on eBay plisses sweet vid love the content
Hey man...can you do me a flavor....2 things...have you ordered and received the reel from that listing? If not. Please remove that link. I don't want to remove your post as you put a good amount of thought and effort into it. But I don't want people getting taken.....Ali is reputable but there are bogus listings or listings that claim ship dates that don't meet them by months. Thanks man. I know you're just trying to help.
Hi,,which is better the ci4+ or the FL?
Victor Banta ...I’d grab the FL for the long stroke spool. The weight difference of 1oz in the 4000 models is irrelevant to me.
When the spool is at the top of its oscillation, does the bail wire clear the top of the spool?
When the dental pick came out I smashed LIKE
LMAO
That Gomexus aluminum double paddle actually looks pretty good with its cut outs, though it's a bit heavier than the carbon fiber one.
I have the FJ 3000 and Exist 3000
I will have to say Daiwa is the #1, and Shimano #2. Don’t get me wrong, I would easily fish the FJ all day any day.
While I think daiwa and shimano baitcasters give each other a run for their money, I honestly think the LT series does the best job in terms of spinning reels (at least for my style)
I like that they offer the 2 gear ratios in this size in the states........But yeah...until the stradic ci4 comes out....the tatula and ballistic would likely fish better due to the ounce and a half savings in weight.....I have em all from the exist certate fuego ballistic tatula etc in this size......I gotta say though...The stock knob on the stradic feels nicer...and I like the drag knob and tall spool of the stradic......but the weight difference is noticeable on my steez ags 7'6
Just curious, in what regard? Line lay, casting distance, smoothness or is it weight as mentioned?
Haven’t pulled the trigger on a LT yet, will have to import one to get the right ratio and the shallow PE-spool.
Veronica Fanquist I have neck and shoulder issues so light weight is key but also performance. I can put 4lb test on a Daiwa exceler one day and put 30 lb test on the next and still have the same performance. (Seriously, I’ve done it) I’m a multi species fisherman so I don’t usually go for specialty styled reels and gear. I want something I can fish for carp one day, bluegill the next, and pull in a bull redfish a week later and 22lbs of drag does it just fine at a killer price point especially when it was on sale a few months back
You’re about to have a bunch of guys with Stella spools on the Stradic bragging about high end gear LOL
Lmao.... Shit I'm psyched to not have to pay an arm and leg for a Stella spool lol
I actually didn't receive a notification, but the video did show up in my personal feed. I used to receive email notifications when your new videos dropped, but recently I only get notifications by email sporadically for all of my subscriptions. Thanks for your work by the way. I love your videos, I have a "gear junkie" problem.
Herbert Gearing same. I did recieve a notification about this video though, but literally no other notification for another video for the whole day! I also have that ”gear nerd” problem. Nice gear just makes the fishing experience better!
Thanks for stopping by and chiming in... It's greatly appreciated
That reel’s body might not be water resistant, but that bubble wrapping on that box is “X-Shield” worthy.
Lololol shit yeah it was.... I had an entire body migraine when filming this.... The struggle was reel lmao
Tackle Advisors I see what you did there. Reel smooth.
Does it have THE CHEAP FEELING?
I experienced that feeling with 19 Vanquish.
I can't wait to see your $200 reel comp.
Thanks, and keep making good videos!
I'm anxious to see the comparison to the Tatula LT. I'm very impressed with the 2 I picked up last fall.
cant wait to have this on my tackle....
I buy my reels religiously off your reviews ! Please don’t stop the vids ! Thnx Sir
Thanks for having confidence in me brotha! No Doubt
Still waiting for the daiwa caldia tear down...
TO save time and unessary tear downs which does damage....I'm going to compare it after I compare the ballstic and tatula to the stradic.....I'll ahve them all apart when I tear them down...gonna sand down the rotor to see if the ballistic is paint or plastic
I have the Ci4 FB 2500 with low gear ratio and the reel is performing very well. I would really really like to try the new Certate LT 2500D but there is no way I can motivate it when I have my ci4. Maybe I could justify an upgrade when the new ci4 comes atleast...
I FINALLY got an FL! Got one today here in Tampa. I'm pretty sure i got the last one available here in Florida haha. Can't find them anywhere at the moment. No where online or any store I've been to until today! Got the 4K and it's buttery smooth. However, my Daiwa Saltist Back Bay 4K is slightly smoother. I've dunked my my Back Bay multiple times now in the kayak inshore and it's still like new. Will see how this Stradic holds up to the saltwater over time. Tight lines and as always enjoy your videos.
Any updates on the stradic after 2 years of use in the kayak?
Any word on the 4000+ sizes?
Great vid as always. I NEED A NEW SARAGOSA SW LOL. Buddy please, have you heard anything about the release of a new saragosa sw?
Not at icast... I heard there is no word coming from Japan for one in 2019..... Surprising but when I asked... He no que nada
$289.99 Canadian up here with our CI4 selling at $319.99! Regardless sales are good hard to keep Stradic in stock the shop I'm at!
Can't wait for your teardown video and compare it to ballistic LT 😀
We have jdm version of ballistic lt here in indonesia, much pricier than export version. Is it worth ?
It’s easy to get the carbon drag washers in the new FL for the 2500.
Yes a serviceable line roller!
In my opinion a great improvement. That line roller assembly was something that made me NOT buy the Stradic FK or other recent mid to high end spinners. Don't like Magseal for the same reason. Gotta give fishermen the option to service reels themselves!
Felix Lux Nothing stopping you servicing a magseal, I do and I'm no one special. Finding the most cost efficient fluid for your region is the hardest part.
@@Kaptainrdean You're right. But what about magseal bearings when they're done? You're kinda forced to get the Daiwa ones, as far as I know. Also servicing with the fluid is a massive complication in my opinion. More difficult, more time consuming, availability issues...
If it was the ticket to never or hardly ever servicing magsealed parts/areas again I'd be all for it, but it's not. Don't get me wrong I have 3 Daiwa BC's (as well as Shimano's and other brands) at home, not a fanboy. But Magseal ist just the single most annoying feature ever in my opinion. Similar to a stupid 1pc line roller + line roller bearing assembly of many recent smaller Shimano spinners.
Felix Lux You have me in regards to replacing the bearings, which fortunately I have not needed to do, yet! Yes, I've no doubt they are expensive and have you cornered in that department, since it's already quite well known that they're all weird sizes. I invested in all daiwa magsealed reals when upgrading from my previous reels I carefully maintained for 10 years and yes, they are more time consuming, but because that's what I have and they are all very similar, I guess I've accepted it for what it is and become fairly efficient servicing them. I have bg mags, ballistics and a theory btw, so nothing even slightly old, other than a prototype theory, which got me sold on the magseal thing in the first place. I had trouble with shimano bearings about 12 years ago and never went back, but have always taken an interest in the stradics from afar, 😁 hence why I'm here!
Do a breakdown of the Stratic FL/vanford 1000/500 and which is best for trout fishing
Stradic ci4 are $330 (5000 don't come in ci4 but are ci4 money) & $270 for standard in Australia, I will buy discount Fk as I have done before for around $200
I’m very interested on how it compares to the Stradic FK.
So I just received the 5000 FL from JandH and I love how it feels, however, I feel like the power handle is adding a little bit of wobble. Any experience with the 5000 size doing that?
Been waiting for this, thank you! Got the notification too!
So was I! And thanks for the heads up
My only hesitation to those about to run out or log in to purchase immediately, just consider if you are going to be content when the shiny ci4 version comes out, and maybe you should, if history repeats this version will be the tougher of the two
i see it made in malaysia
I fish with Penn reels but these really are great reels...
I really like that handle. It's similar to the one on the chronarch and I love it on mine. I wish it wasn't so expe sive, though.
Just caught your Videos today Sunday , I was wondering if you'll do a view on the SixGill any time soon THANK YOU
gonna try to find a deal on 3k FL since the FM is out now .
That is one heck of a letter opener!
I always thought baitcasters were more complex to make due to the different break systems in them?
I'm with you on low gear ratio when I trout fish but high gear when I bass fish
Great video! Are the drivegear of Shimano Stradic FL interchangable with Shimano Stella FI?
The FK also only had carbon fibre drag stack in the 5000 size (my FK 3000 came with felt, so I upgraded to carbon fibre)
I want a big reel with a lower gear ratio for pulling power. But the 5000 FL has a gear ratio of 6.2:1. shimano should make a lower ratio version , like 5.2 :1 or even 4.9:1
I’m going to pick one up for 109.99 this week. Another great video thank you.
Brand new btw lol
I love the FK and I am sure I will fall in love with this even more! I really like the looks of it also!
Hey man! Same.. Looks killer hope it proves out over time
Tackle Advisors I hope it does too
Hey bro I just ordered this reel because of the reviews and this one so thanks and I can't wait to get it on THURSDAYYYYY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MEEEEEE LOL I subbed btw. Awesome review and breakdown man
Good stuff! May you beat the snot out of it in good health ;)
I have the strad ci4 but this one looks alot more pleasing aesthetically so yea lol had to get it
I ordered my Stradic Ci4 from the European market to the the 5.1 ratio. No one ever talks about the lower gear ratios especially with spinners. Another great video.
This is a great reel I have caught lots of fish on it already
Thanks sean
Was sweating this one out, passed up on another ballistic at TD last week knowing this being released soon. Gotta be low ratio so must get it from over seas. 200? Seems 2 good to be true. Ur the man Scoob!
Hey man!! Thanks! Pretty shitty that they opted not to bring over the low gear......Daiwa has it....they don't even want to match them there lol
The search for a well sealed spinning reel that's lightweight, dunkable for more than 30 seconds, and around $200 continues. Ballistic is just a hair over $200 but the mag seals are still an issue when servicing is concerned. Looking forward to your comparison between this and a few other reels in this price range. I mean I get why this one isn't as well sealed as say a Spheros, because then why would you pay more for a heavier equally-sealed reel. But maybe if the sealing was on par with the Spheros, but the gearing was a tad weaker, then maybe that could justify the price difference.
@@aquaholiklee Damn I never realized that. Does penn incorporate a body seal into the smaller size spinfisher VI reels, like the 2500? I know they're a bit heavier and not as smooth as daiwa or shimano reels at that price point, but that sealing seems like a nice feature to have for the money and size.
@@aquaholiklee Gotcha. It's crazy the amount of knowledge that you and TA possess, I'm just now learning about a lot of this stuff. Thanks for the input.
@@aquaholiklee maybe a used sustain would suit my needs. For the price though, they seem a bit overpriced, especially now
@@aquaholiklee Yeah I'm certainly no fanboy either. Just bought my first non-ugly stik rod due to BPS gift cards, it's a St. Croix Mojo Bass 7' MHF, absolutely love it (mainly the weight and sensitivity). I've been buying reels for a long time but really only recently put a lot of thought into them. Got a BG2500 and have loved it the past 2 years, and love my old baitrunner 4500B. I was thinking of upgrading the bearings on the baitrunner but I'm not sure if it's worth it. I'm also looking to replace my aging Sahara 4000FD, I've had it serviced but it feels like it's on it's last legs, just grinds and skips under heavy drag pressures, I replaced the drive and pinion gears because I thought that was the cause, but the new gears have the same issue. Maybe it's an oscillation issue? Looking to get a nice saltwater rated reel that can hold about 250-300 yards of 30lb braid, puts out around 20lb drag, certainly lots of options, heck might even just do another BG, maybe a 3500 or 4000.
@@aquaholiklee good to know, thank you. I feel like st. croix makes really nice rods, since they have a lot of buying power, seemingly. It's crazy all the options out there for spinning rods between 100-200$. Lots of crap I imagine. I did try a loomis e6x inshore but it didn't feel any better to me than the mojo bass, and it was about 70$ more expensive and didn't come in a split grip like I wanted
Bought a 5000 Stradic fl and I don't think it's worth $200+ still an awesome reel
I think it checks the most boxes in the price category... Does everything great and you get 80 percent of what's in the more expensive reels
Since you ( and Elias ) have had nice things to say about the low cost Okuma Epixor spinner, why not tear down and compare their higher price reels? The Helios reels appear to be the top of the line for fresh water, though I've used an older model inshore, as well as a slightly less expensive Inspira. The new Azores Blue 40 is intended for Salt, and the only difference between it and the lower cost older silver colored ones is the line capacity. Both come with carbon fiber drags.
The blue azores has larger gears than the silver as well
@@ianundercover6295 Thanks for that information. I was misled, perhaps unintentionally, by a tackle vendor I contacted. Given the number of different reels, and manufacturers, and their constant "improvements", it's difficult to keep them all straight.
@@woodystemms3799 hey np, it is near impossible to keep up on every single spec
1. why arent more people subscribed to this channel?
2. awesome vids!
Can you upload the tear down... I would like to see tear down for maintenance purpose... Thanks
When will this release in the us? Also have you tried any of the phenix rods? They’re some of the lightest I’ve ever felt.
The nasci and up are good reels even some below the nasci are good never had a problem with shimano
Looks great.....gonna snag one since daiwa is very hesitant on giving us any kind of pro discount.
They just can't seem to make up their minds on those aluminium spool shafts... First found on smaller Stella's then much later on Stradic Ci4 F's and then disappeared off that line to the FA going back to stainless Steel, then reappeared in the FB to Aluminium... Now its found on the Stradic general line... Not sure how that's going to work in comparison to how they're treated usually for their price range.
The non folding handle - hmm going to be hard to store that now - I typically just unwound it to a point folded it in and put a hair tie around it to immobilise it when stored on the rod in transit or in its protective bag - now it's either on or off... See how many more stripped handle gear threads will come of it?
While on price... They're $339 (1000) ~ $389 (5000) here in Australia... You guys have it pretty good I reckon! They'll see lots of online trade for the low gear ratio reels!
I found it interesting...which is why it sorta stood out..also the differnt color rubber seal....wondering if it's a different durameter rating.....same color as the penn seal at the pinion traverse.......I think the handle thing is hit or miss....Not a big plus...but I'd take that in trade for something else they included for the $$. Assuming it was cheaper to mfr in one piece.....What did the FK sell for over there?
As long as gear ratios count as different non market specific variants I assume it'll fly.....they sold out on ebay. Or shimano put the kabosh on it.
It's hard to say what the seals are like without seeing one, but if they're anything like (hard & ill fitting) seals on the FK AR seal - let's really hope not... The seals should be more supple and finer contact lips for contact against the mating surface if they want them to actually work... Like the FE Stella AR top seal etc... These seals should be replaced in time but is well worth it imho.
The handle - let's go with less parts, less cost and less warranty with the folding design... But I can see people stripping the inner of the main gear as it'll become a more on & off design. But ultimately a stronger handle connection and positive feel while in use - as no extra parts or play.
The FK sold stably here at around $230 / $250 after the initial price came down normally ($330'ish), and recently you can pick them up for around $190 on run out naturally - I think they may even come down lower than that...
We're only seeing the HG variations here in Aus (going by schematics & online lists), there is a huge market for the 5.#:1 ratios and for people like myself who prefer low ratios - but typically we'll follow the US trends even if our fishing styles are totally different - I guess why people are holding onto old reels due to being forced to use something they don't agree or are happy with... I mean look at all the MM gears that are going / wearing out now /compared to the old clunky cut gear's which lasted decades - it has me pretty worried about the longevity of these new reels and the availability of gear sets into the future...
As far as I can tell the mm gears in the spinners are found in the idlers than run the oscillation... Not too much load there and they seem to wear gracefully. The main gear set even if they added a dozen teeth should still manage adequate geometry to last. And it's the inherent design of a baitcasters drag putting all the force on the gear teeth where as with spinners it all stops with the clutch. The shimano handle threading is the most 300 lb gorilla friendly in the business.. Van Staal and Daiwa are more easily damaged. I'd bet that would be a small fraction of the repairs that shimano service sees
@@TackleAdvisors I'm just about to replace a Stella SW-B 4000 gearset that's been stripped out by improper handle insertion. They do happen even to the best & most careful of owners.
Great review! Could you please share the details about the double handle that you used in this video. Thanks!
2500HGFL is it the same size as the 3000XGFL what’s the difference between stradic ci4 what is the best to you
Can you show me how to put up a stradic FL anti-reverse oneway?
Tx🙏🙏🙏
I need a Stella with a double handle, looks so good.
Dude...these handles rock....carbon fiber and great quality cheap..this is the one I'm using on the exist but they make em for all shimano reels too bit.ly/daiwadoublehandle
Would be nice for float and feeder fishing on commercial fisheries in the UK. Wouldn't fancy using it if I was a sea angler but as a course angler float and feeder fishing for small carp tench or bream or fishing for perch with spinners it would be spot on.
Yerrrrrrr. Love these videos. I have a shit ton of FKs and one FL. I’m curious - do you think the line roller bearing assembly fits the fks? I’m so tired of waiting on shimano for back ordered parts. I’m looking for a way to simplify bearing replacement for the fk line roller. Help a brother out!
Guided By Lee
If i were u i'll give a try !
Have you heard of bail arms getting loose and floppy?
Do a review on a comparable series/price point for a D. A. M. reel and you might switch brands after that 😉
Aren't Dam reels now just OEM? I had one a long time ago....I grew up fishing their fishing line 30 years ago....My father picked up a spool of their 4lb test when he was in germany....used it for the first few years of my childhood fishing :)
@@TackleAdvisors I have no idea to be honest, but their products quality has been consistent over the years, not to mention that they have more than 100 years in the fishing tackle trade.
How does it compare to the Stradic Ci4+?
yeah waiting for comparison
What did this reel cost? Do you think it challenges the ci4+?
I paid 180 from malaysia...looks like shimano shut down the link..at 2pm it was there now it's gone. It's heavier for it' size. But better every other way that's important. The ci4+ based on this design would be better than this reel....
Tackle Advisors do the two compare in smoothness?
Tackle Advisors Just about to ask that. What about X protect?
Can you please do a review of the Daiwa Phantom Hyper LT and compare it to a Stradic FL? I'm thinking of buying either in the 5000 size.
just received the 1000 , waiting nano line 6 lb...and start bream targeting ul.
Thoughts on the 5000 Certate LT?
Thanks for bringing up double handle! Question - I have stradic ci4 1000fb on my ultra light rod. which size for double handle will you recommend for very slow and steady retrieve? 38 or 45mm? also yumeya have 10 and 14 models (yumeya 10 stella mg and yumeya 14 stella mg) They are both available in 38 and 45 . do you know the difference? It's been really hard to find much info on this handle. Thanks again.
are they going to come out with bigger versions of this reel above 5000? It would be a much better version of the Penn 5500 LC which has a similar sized spool
Nice spinning reel..i want it
Thanks for the video. Which size would you recommend for targeting striped bass out of a kayak? I was leaning toward the 4000. Do you think this reel will stand up to splashed over the bow etc or should I look for something better sealed
I feel like theres no difference between my fk is there?
I have not seen Shimano Vanford review from you. Have you done one or plan to do so?
Probably not. looks like dude retired from youtube.
Please shopping advice for new reel.
Which is a better choice CI4+ or new Fl, price is same? Your opinion?
Would you recommend the 5k for this for some basic beach fishing or would it be better to spend a little extra and get a gosa?
Jealous, 300 size is already gone on eBay
Edit: I realized that was a German link Malaysian link is no where to be found
Adam Vansant 2500 is gone too
hello would you buy a stradic fl 5000 or a biomaster sw 6000 for offshore ?
Isn't the biomaster significantly heavier? Like the Saragosa sw?
@@TackleAdvisors ya but i want a reel that can fight 15kg fish
Maybe the first Shimano in 8-10 years that is worth the money.
Can't leave out the Saragosa SW :)
oh nice how much price please and how bring on
yeah from my country.. Malaysia.. and im must get this one.. maybe 4000size .. im gonna use it on deep saltwater ocean..
How smooth is this compared to the daiwa back Bay??? Love your vids regards from Greece.
Back bay......Tighter main gear and pinion tolerance....and the back bay is the smoother reel....That series of reels is a freak...I just saw the Daiwa Phantom LT which is an alumium framed Tatula LT which looks interesting....may pick one up frm malaysia.
If you put all bearings in this reel will it be just as good as the Stella Stella fj
Thanks for this. Can we still put the carbon stack into this one like we all did on the fk? I read you said that the 3000 has carbon drag? Is the one in the states gonna come thing carbon drag?
I think the 2500 on up have em already....and the smaller sizes can definietly take em
Why do reviewers fail to demonstrate the reel's line laying abilities, with braid and mono? It is, for me, one of the most important aspects of the reel, and why I own two Stradics. I don't want to know about how smart the reel the reel looks, what custom extras I can add, to me that is all total bo****ks!
A reel review should include not only line lay, but fishing abilities.I just returned a Penn Clash, and its replacement because the line lay is dire, not just on my reels, but on all the Clash models.I tried all the spacing washers supplied, eventually using custom shims, but still couldn't get a line lay level enough to reflect the reel's cost.
98% agree with you... Line management is the most important. Line lay is part of that but you don't necessarily need laser level line lay stacked at 15 degrees to cast and perform incredible. Penn and their Las Gen of reels battle 2 fierce 2 had issues in that the reel will play a part in throwing "wind knots". Daiwa and shimano and long cast designs from others do an incredible job. Daiwa and okuma doing the best without using a worm driven oscillation...better than Shimano's locomotion driven systems... But worm driven shimano reels are the best
Hi,,,there is a bunch of stradic,,which 1 is the better for you? I am planing to buy 1 stradic a better stradic
i managed to buy the ci4+ a week before this came out in my country :/
Could we get a look at the new Nasci?
At least that double worked on it as well. It's still a few nicer reels they offer over there with it but the offerings here are slim aside from the Spirex.
For real!! ....I bought the gomexus carbon fiber double a few weeks ago and love it...42 bucks and worht every penny bit.ly/daiwadoublehandle
@@TackleAdvisors lol that's awesome. People still stop me when I'm using my old Spirex 2000fd asking about it. I always tell them I can't swear by the newer ones because I haven't used them, but if they are at least what mine is can't beat it for the price. I've pulled in some pretty big fish with it, even nice stripers and gar.
@@TackleAdvisors appreciate that link though, Shimano charges a whole reel almost for the parts handles direct from them, so for $42 carbon...can't beat it.
@@bassnazi4713 my pops used to use nothing but spirexes for the quickfire 2 feature.....I'd steal his handles and put em on my magnesium stradics....that was 20 years ago lol
@@TackleAdvisors lol exactly, quick fire is great especially on the techniques where it doesn't hurt to have line feed out. Many get it and still expect the instant anti reverse but it can't with it being able to line right up. Never bothers me with it since usually i am using lighter stuff and have my hand on the handle
Please compare this and the Stradic ci4