I've walked away from satisfactory at the moment. Had some bugs with my turbofuel power plant and it killed my motivation. Decided I'd wait for 1.0. Now that I'm watching your work again, I've got the itch. I don't think I can wait lol. Going to dedicate this weekend to debugging my Power plant and building again. As always, love your work and thank you for the inspiration to play again.
Of course, the buffers work. The big container have two output ports and the station has two input ports. And vice versa. Connect two outputs to the station and you fill it up with double speed.
Let's say you have two full belts of 780 going into a freight platform. If they are both 780 per minute, and going into one platform, a buffer will do nothing, and you won't reach 780/780 out on the other side. Buffer only works if it's one in and two out. Not two in and two out. That's what I was (poorly) trying to explain!
yeah, the only way getting 780 out of trains is considering the double input/output as a single belt in combination with an industrial container. i believe Coffeestain actually intended that mechanic to be figured out since only trains have the pauze in loading/unloading out of all the vehicles. the 2 ports are jjust a bait to use them for 2 full lines :D
@@WhatDarrenPlays exactly as the comment you replied to is saying is correct. You go 2x780 into a large storage and 1x780 comming out of it. This allows a constant 780 output from your freight station
51:35 That's assuming the truck station splits the output like a splitter. In my experience, a large storage container puts any on the bottom and overflow on top. Might be the same for the truck station. That may not matter though since the truck drops a full inventory at once. So they'll both output 480 93.75% of the time even if one is "overflow".
Awesome video as always, Darren! I might have a suggestion for your issue with the constant flow of 780 belts into train stations: What about using industrial storage containers as buffers? Connect one 780 belt to an input of the container and two 780 belts to both outputs of the container, reaching into both inputs of the same train platform. This way, the container acts as a buffer while the train is loading. After the train leaves, the two output belts will then drain the container since they're faster than the one input belt. If I'm not mistaken, you'll be able to catch up with the 780 belt feeding that container, ensuring a constant flow of 780 per minute.
True, I shouldve explained better: 780 is achievable, but 1560 is not. The point is that if you try fill a container normally with 1560 per minute (2input belts) you can, but you wont be able to transfer that to a train. I was (badly) trying to explain that whatever your max belt speed is, if you were loading both input belts into a station, you wont be able to achieve that. Of course if you only use one belt in and two out its fine, but two in and two out its not!
Another minitip on rails. It pays to lay down curved rail lines between shorty rail stubs (16 meter segments) and delete those stubs afterwards. That way you know the curved rail is pointed in the right directions afterwards. Also, like the blueprint editor, the station modules look better either laid into foundations and look better that way.
The video is an hour but it is still over way too soon, your videos are just so good I’m always sad its already over 😂 I really love the episodes when you’re building smaller places that you connect to others. I love to see how you are figuring things out and explain what your ideas behind it are, it gives me a lot of inspiration for my own safe! Keep it up, can’t wait for the next video!
ca 45:20 has it been corrected now that you can use both exits at the same time on the containers? As far as I know it has always been the case that one exit was prioritized.
i feel sad that this series is not getting enough love !!!!! Darren is putting so much love and effort in these videos but they are not getting enough views😞😞😞 BEST of luck Darren, we all want you to succeed !!!!! 💯💯💯💯
If you use the big buffer before input and use two lines to connect him in the freight platform, you can fill the platform at two times the speed. So for instance, when the train makes everything pause you keep on filling the buffer at 780. When the train leaves, you are filling the freight platform at 2 times the speed. until the buffer is empty again. then its a nice continious 780 again. If you now repeat this process at the other station you can have a nice troughput of 780 continious per freight platform. i presume you mean you can not have 2 x 780 lines per platform? The way i design it is I see every freight platform as a 780 belt
great work!! i was yelling at the screen "that's not coal!!!!" lol!! can't wait for the next one, i love this series!! please keep going!!!!! to Nuclear!!!! lol
What I've started doing when building train stations from the back, is instead of measuring things out I place a placeholder Train Station first. Then I can build (n - 1) Freight Stations off of that placeholder, place the real Train Station up at the front where it's going to be, and then replace the placeholder Train Station with the real last Freight Station for my build.
man i love watching these videos, i can’t help the feeling of being overwhelmed cause this shits so confusing. this is like one of the only games i want to be good day
Great video as always! And hey man, don't fret much about video upload inconsistency. Health comes first! We'd rather have you do your stuff for as long as you can, rather than work yourself to death. Wish you a speedy recovery, and looking forward to the next video :)
Just FYI I'm playing a little ahead and connected up the foundries. I discovered that you also missed the electrical connections all all of the lower foundries. Not a big deal, just thought you'd like to know.
Sometimes (not always as it depends on production speeds) I'll force small manifolds to operate more like load balancers by putting slower belts on some of the outputs so it'll force the faster throughout onward without needing to fill each machine first.
29:08 that particular curve results in the end being very slightly off straight (presumably caused by some floating-point rounding error in the calculation). you need to place the curve first, then the exit segment. the slightly not-straight nature becomes more apparent if you use a lot of them in a short span off a central "bus" rail to enter stations - the bus rail becomes rather wiggly.
so what you are saying is you can use the train as extra storage if you set it to completely empty and wait 5 seconds? if such a situation arises where you have too much of one product
ca 45:20 has it been corrected now that you can use both exits at the same time on the containers? As far as I know it has always been the case that one exit was prioritized.
They don't, but it won't matter overall here in how this is designed. Ultimately when it becomes Mk.3 miners, there will just be one belt coming out of each that splits once. A container that is full will output both belts at the same speed, but a container that is just recieving items will output those items faster on whichever output belt was hooked up first. The container doesn't act as a splitter. I'll probably showcase this more in the next one so we can see how it works more closely
You know, I was curious about this because I hear people mention it a lot. So I decided to do a test. Same track length, and I timed a 3, 4 and a 5 carriage train. I timed it by recording the journeys, and used my video editing frame counter to get precise times. The 5 carriage did the journey in 59.56 seconds. The 4 carriage did the journey in 58.97 seconds. The 3 carriage did the journey in 58.65 seconds. This is with a track with no elevation climb or descent. I worked out that a 5 carriage in this example, is almost exactly 1% slower. I can live with that :P
I don't think I've ever built there, so it's good to know that there's no coal 😉 I can't wait for the full trains episode though. You had some good tips for going in a straight line and turning here, but I'd really want to see how you built larger, more complex lines. I tried trains once so far and had an awful time fighting with the terrain (doing small corrections and inclines). Of course, I thought it was a good idea to go three foundations wide, with a double line for goods at the bottom and a raised middle rail for my personal travel. So that might've been why I had such a bad time with it 😅
Well I must admit, I'm not good with trains and never fully wrapped my head around signals, not just in this game but in others. It never seems to work how I want. So my overall rail system will have double lines and junctions, but it won't be some mastery of the train system. It'll be fairly straightforward generally speaking.
I promise it will come, I just dont know when just yet. I’m working with some new mods and I’m excited to get back to regular videos with it. I just have a very disruptive schedule right now because of family issues and dont want to put one episode put and go quiet for a month again.
you have got to be one of the only people I know that actually uses the shitty nvidia overlay to record videos, OBS is superior in every aspect and if you experience any performance issues I would imagine its a user problem. Ive never had any issues using OBS to record video.
Great Video and thank u for the tips for the Train Tracks. I was strugeling with my Train Track Got a Design but Bad curves imma try next making a Tunnel Track with the tips u gave 🫡
I've walked away from satisfactory at the moment. Had some bugs with my turbofuel power plant and it killed my motivation. Decided I'd wait for 1.0.
Now that I'm watching your work again, I've got the itch. I don't think I can wait lol. Going to dedicate this weekend to debugging my Power plant and building again.
As always, love your work and thank you for the inspiration to play again.
Your satisfactory video releases are always a highlight of my day.
Of course, the buffers work. The big container have two output ports and the station has two input ports. And vice versa. Connect two outputs to the station and you fill it up with double speed.
Let's say you have two full belts of 780 going into a freight platform. If they are both 780 per minute, and going into one platform, a buffer will do nothing, and you won't reach 780/780 out on the other side. Buffer only works if it's one in and two out. Not two in and two out. That's what I was (poorly) trying to explain!
yeah, the only way getting 780 out of trains is considering the double input/output as a single belt in combination with an industrial container. i believe Coffeestain actually intended that mechanic to be figured out since only trains have the pauze in loading/unloading out of all the vehicles. the 2 ports are jjust a bait to use them for 2 full lines :D
@@WhatDarrenPlays exactly as the comment you replied to is saying is correct. You go 2x780 into a large storage and 1x780 comming out of it. This allows a constant 780 output from your freight station
51:35 That's assuming the truck station splits the output like a splitter. In my experience, a large storage container puts any on the bottom and overflow on top. Might be the same for the truck station.
That may not matter though since the truck drops a full inventory at once. So they'll both output 480 93.75% of the time even if one is "overflow".
Awesome video as always, Darren!
I might have a suggestion for your issue with the constant flow of 780 belts into train stations: What about using industrial storage containers as buffers? Connect one 780 belt to an input of the container and two 780 belts to both outputs of the container, reaching into both inputs of the same train platform. This way, the container acts as a buffer while the train is loading. After the train leaves, the two output belts will then drain the container since they're faster than the one input belt. If I'm not mistaken, you'll be able to catch up with the 780 belt feeding that container, ensuring a constant flow of 780 per minute.
And with a mirror image on the other end to offload, it should theoretically keep a steady 780 flow.
True, I shouldve explained better:
780 is achievable, but 1560 is not. The point is that if you try fill a container normally with 1560 per minute (2input belts) you can, but you wont be able to transfer that to a train. I was (badly) trying to explain that whatever your max belt speed is, if you were loading both input belts into a station, you wont be able to achieve that. Of course if you only use one belt in and two out its fine, but two in and two out its not!
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Another minitip on rails. It pays to lay down curved rail lines between shorty rail stubs (16 meter segments) and delete those stubs afterwards. That way you know the curved rail is pointed in the right directions afterwards. Also, like the blueprint editor, the station modules look better either laid into foundations and look better that way.
The video is an hour but it is still over way too soon, your videos are just so good I’m always sad its already over 😂 I really love the episodes when you’re building smaller places that you connect to others. I love to see how you are figuring things out and explain what your ideas behind it are, it gives me a lot of inspiration for my own safe! Keep it up, can’t wait for the next video!
Thanks for showing that hidden node! I didn't know about that one
Hey Darren, you can use the two tall storages for the buffers at the train stations, it lets you put in 1560/min until the buffer drains
ca 45:20 has it been corrected now that you can use both exits at the same time on the containers? As far as I know it has always been the case that one exit was prioritized.
LOL everyone who's started or built in this area wondering where this mysterious coal deposit was coming from. Oops haha
Lmao, kept yelling at my screen saying their is no coal there. I made that mistake when I first built at that spot too. But great video
I spent like an hour building the trucks and doing the routes and stuff for it haha. Cut almost all of it out!
@@WhatDarrenPlays The nearest Coal to those Pure Iron nodes is above you up at Crater Lakes. Quite a hike!
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i feel sad that this series is not getting enough love !!!!!
Darren is putting so much love and effort in these videos but they are not getting enough views😞😞😞
BEST of luck Darren, we all want you to succeed !!!!! 💯💯💯💯
Thanks! It helps when people like or comment or even share it to friends, reddit or forums where it makes sense and is allowed.
If you use the big buffer before input and use two lines to connect him in the freight platform, you can fill the platform at two times the speed. So for instance, when the train makes everything pause you keep on filling the buffer at 780. When the train leaves, you are filling the freight platform at 2 times the speed. until the buffer is empty again. then its a nice continious 780 again. If you now repeat this process at the other station you can have a nice troughput of 780 continious per freight platform.
i presume you mean you can not have 2 x 780 lines per platform? The way i design it is I see every freight platform as a 780 belt
great work!! i was yelling at the screen "that's not coal!!!!" lol!! can't wait for the next one, i love this series!! please keep going!!!!! to Nuclear!!!! lol
Sam Ore factory soon?
What I've started doing when building train stations from the back, is instead of measuring things out I place a placeholder Train Station first. Then I can build (n - 1) Freight Stations off of that placeholder, place the real Train Station up at the front where it's going to be, and then replace the placeholder Train Station with the real last Freight Station for my build.
man i love watching these videos, i can’t help the feeling of being overwhelmed cause this shits so confusing. this is like one of the only games i want to be good day
Great video as always!
And hey man, don't fret much about video upload inconsistency. Health comes first! We'd rather have you do your stuff for as long as you can, rather than work yourself to death.
Wish you a speedy recovery, and looking forward to the next video :)
Had to become a member to keep the satisfactory going! You have become one of my favorite content creators!
Thank you! High praise!
Wahoo your back.. I love this series and enjoy the enthusiasm you play with. Did you ever work out that little machine problem with the Iron factory?
Glad to see you back! Love the effort you put into the videos
Much appreciated!
Same here !
@@WhatDarrenPlays 👏👏
Just FYI I'm playing a little ahead and connected up the foundries. I discovered that you also missed the electrical connections all all of the lower foundries. Not a big deal, just thought you'd like to know.
Hey Darren, I was just watching this episode and noticed the 4th chapter reads "How To Build Straight or CRUVED Rail". Minor Typo
I was like "there's no coal deposit there!!!" haha. Nice video, I enjoyed the laugh
Thanks for the Video. Unpacking files have errors.
Sometimes (not always as it depends on production speeds) I'll force small manifolds to operate more like load balancers by putting slower belts on some of the outputs so it'll force the faster throughout onward without needing to fill each machine first.
There are 4 pure nodes, I think a bit closer, if you continued north.
We need MOAR Satisfactory vids! :D
Amen lol ! 😅
29:08 that particular curve results in the end being very slightly off straight (presumably caused by some floating-point rounding error in the calculation). you need to place the curve first, then the exit segment. the slightly not-straight nature becomes more apparent if you use a lot of them in a short span off a central "bus" rail to enter stations - the bus rail becomes rather wiggly.
@33:56 that's what the empty platform buildable is for.
so what you are saying is you can use the train as extra storage if you set it to completely empty and wait 5 seconds? if such a situation arises where you have too much of one product
ca 45:20 has it been corrected now that you can use both exits at the same time on the containers? As far as I know it has always been the case that one exit was prioritized.
awesome series, go get yourself an ice cream you earned it
I might have sent a bit of coke over to duel the truck
Hey just a question what sites do you use for planning?
We're not going anywhere.
I thought you meant coal coke fml lol.
the fact that you put minecraft music over all this puts a smile on my face
If you just wanted a train that goes back and forth you could have just added a second locomotive instead of building a loop.
I wanted to show how to build small loops, and kinda just wanted a single track with no signals.
I remember seeing something about the large containers, something about the 2 outlets do not output at the same speed. hopefully that isnt the case.
They don't, but it won't matter overall here in how this is designed. Ultimately when it becomes Mk.3 miners, there will just be one belt coming out of each that splits once.
A container that is full will output both belts at the same speed, but a container that is just recieving items will output those items faster on whichever output belt was hooked up first. The container doesn't act as a splitter. I'll probably showcase this more in the next one so we can see how it works more closely
well the locomotives won't move as fast because it carrying 5 (the good ratio is 1:4) you can add another locomotive so it can move faster
You know, I was curious about this because I hear people mention it a lot. So I decided to do a test.
Same track length, and I timed a 3, 4 and a 5 carriage train. I timed it by recording the journeys, and used my video editing frame counter to get precise times.
The 5 carriage did the journey in 59.56 seconds.
The 4 carriage did the journey in 58.97 seconds.
The 3 carriage did the journey in 58.65 seconds.
This is with a track with no elevation climb or descent. I worked out that a 5 carriage in this example, is almost exactly 1% slower. I can live with that :P
I don't think I've ever built there, so it's good to know that there's no coal 😉
I can't wait for the full trains episode though. You had some good tips for going in a straight line and turning here, but I'd really want to see how you built larger, more complex lines. I tried trains once so far and had an awful time fighting with the terrain (doing small corrections and inclines). Of course, I thought it was a good idea to go three foundations wide, with a double line for goods at the bottom and a raised middle rail for my personal travel. So that might've been why I had such a bad time with it 😅
Well I must admit, I'm not good with trains and never fully wrapped my head around signals, not just in this game but in others. It never seems to work how I want. So my overall rail system will have double lines and junctions, but it won't be some mastery of the train system. It'll be fairly straightforward generally speaking.
woohoooo finally trains
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This release just made my day
when's the next cities skylines 2 video? my life needs meaning again pls
I promise it will come, I just dont know when just yet. I’m working with some new mods and I’m excited to get back to regular videos with it. I just have a very disruptive schedule right now because of family issues and dont want to put one episode put and go quiet for a month again.
@@WhatDarrenPlays understood, take your time!! ♡
Thank you for the great video. It seems, that the second lift between the container and platform 2 of the outpost is missing.
Thanks! will fix it!
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you have got to be one of the only people I know that actually uses the shitty nvidia overlay to record videos, OBS is superior in every aspect and if you experience any performance issues I would imagine its a user problem. Ive never had any issues using OBS to record video.
Great Video and thank u for the tips for the Train Tracks. I was strugeling with my Train Track Got a Design but Bad curves imma try next making a Tunnel Track with the tips u gave 🫡