Another Shop Could not Fix This Honda Pilot & I Can't Figure it out - P2638 Torque Management

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  • @jeffjones7897
    @jeffjones7897 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love too see the integrity that you use when repairing a vehicle it’s rare to see sure would love too work with you but I’m disabled and looking forward to a surgery that will allow me to do what I love and I live in Beaverton Oregon I have not quit I keep up with as much as I can and want too wrench again but it so nice to watch you work you are awesome

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @jeffjones7897 Thank you and good luck with your surgery, I pray that everything goes well for you

  • @EddieShaw-n2e
    @EddieShaw-n2e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This is my vehicles thank you all for the great suggestions. The lights came back on after a week. As I was getting ready to take it back to Kit’s the lights went back off again. The car still drives fine. The only issue is the dash lights coming on intermittently.

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @user-qd6ni7iw2w Thanks for being here Edward, Hopefully that issue becomes permanent soon so I can figure it out!!

    • @kayjay4060
      @kayjay4060 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Check the trans fluid. Is it brown, and smells awful?
      My guess is you towed something heavy with it, and likely loaded up the vehicle as well on a long drive, and burnt up your trans fluid. It should have a purple hue to it. Dark purple even. If it is brown at all it is bad. Honda fluid oil. Only exception would be Valvoline Maxlife ATF. No others at all. Do not under any circumstance put any other type of trans fluid in.

    • @zechsperos1410
      @zechsperos1410 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I am having the same issues on my 2017 EX-L. It was just check engine P0420 for the last year and half intermittently, and just today all the other “Power Steering Problem”, etc popped up. If you have found a solution to all this, could you please let me know?
      Thanks!

    • @kayjay4060
      @kayjay4060 42 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@zechsperos1410 P0420 = bad PCV system. Is your valve covers leaking?
      Change your fluids every 3 years. It's likely you have never changed your power steering fluid, or your transmission fluid. How are you doing on your engine oil intervals? Every 6 months or 5k whichever comes first. That will keep your PCV valve from getting clogged.
      Change over to Valvoline Restore and Protect. Change the fluid every 3 months or 3k whichever comes first for the first year or two. As it cleans it will dislodge any sludge. Frequent oil changes will help keep the fluid clean. After that, just 5k or 6 months. I chose Every September and March.

  • @raymondrodriguez1766
    @raymondrodriguez1766 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I LOVE THE WAY YOU WORK. ILIKE THE WAY YOU SHOW WHAT U R DOING THANK U

  • @lesliwells5433
    @lesliwells5433 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I would have done the same thing, you have done a SUPERB JOB, AWESOME ❤❤❤

  • @albazelt2872
    @albazelt2872 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sir you solved the problem when you reset the ECM it just needed that
    thanks

  • @tallerdechepe5303
    @tallerdechepe5303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Greetings friend from Venezuela... I always watch your videos to learn a little more... I like the way you explain each diagnostic step

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @tallerdechepe5303 Thank you my Friend from Venezuela, I'm glad to hear that the videos have been helpful!

  • @ysitrim88
    @ysitrim88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good job my friend!
    You can only go by what the data is telling you.
    Like you said needs to be more permanent.
    At least your not shotgunning parts at the car, the customer should be happy about that.

  • @GabrielEbenezer-ko2hp
    @GabrielEbenezer-ko2hp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only to thing there is to allow the owner drive the car till tge problem show is tself as expected ❤❤❤ much love boss

  • @florinstan3745
    @florinstan3745 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciate your sincerity about this case. My opinion you have a problem in CAN communication because i've seen an bus off code on your diagnostic tool in the beginning of the diagnostic test . If you have a intermittent communication the will takes time to trigger "bus off" beacause the error count has to make 287 errors so after that the lights com on in dashboard. I believe that in time the lights will come more often until they will stay continuously and then will be more easy to pursue or put in evidence the problem.

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @florinstan3745 Thank you! Yes I agree with you! we might have a communication issue but when I scoped it the waveform looked good and of course it was not acting up so the customer is gonna keep driving it until it becomes a hard fault then I'll figure it out!

  • @nash69ish
    @nash69ish 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Check the bulk connector on the left side of your left foot. Water usually sep through the corner of the windshield, causing corrosion in the connectors behind that panel

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nash69ish Oh ok! Good to know! I will check it out if the vehicle comes back! Thanks

  • @luisriverasr2487
    @luisriverasr2487 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Somebody desconet the battery a happens to me with my son 2019 Honda Civic. I was cleaning the battery terminal. We drove the car until the computer set her self.
    Good job.

  • @alexdragomirescu5084
    @alexdragomirescu5084 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someone in the comments said to try an idle re-learn. Good advice. I would add some sticking valves (maybe adjust the them - check the valve clearance). Good luck!

  • @alwaysinmotion1
    @alwaysinmotion1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had a misfire on my X5M and did all the coil changes, spark plug changes, #2 was the worst, cleaned it and it ran better until it fouled up again. Did lots of testing and finally decided to put a camera in #2 cylinder. Lo and behold it showed me I need another engine. The cylinder wall was scoured. Too much oil coming up and fouling the plug.

  • @kayjay4060
    @kayjay4060 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Check and smell the transmission fluid. Replace if brown. 3 times drain/fill is the recommended fluid change on good trans. When the fluid goes brown and burnt it needs at least 6 times drain/fill with driving between. The issue is when the fluid gets hot again. It will be fine as long as the trans fluid doesn't heat up again. The fluid is the culprit.

  • @HoodsGlobal
    @HoodsGlobal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ****DIY guy here: I would verify that parts like MAF, Coils and Spark plugs are OEM from dealership, not cheap Chinese units. Dissappearance of code by just swapping a coil says a lot about the coils.

  • @OswaldSantos-e6m
    @OswaldSantos-e6m 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the car is haunted.great video.Thank you.

  • @kayjay4060
    @kayjay4060 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My scantool Launch creader elite shows the idle relearn progress. It starts after you have the engine up to operating temp, and the fan cycles twice. RPM 3k until fan comes on. Let idle for at least 15 minutes. It takes 10 minutes, but if you don't have the ability to see when it finishes, just let it idle for 15 minutes, and you should be good. I see it says 5 minutes, and my experience has shown 10 minutes at least. It takes a few minutes to start the idle process.

  • @neverstoplearning382
    @neverstoplearning382 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Do a crank relearn. Sometimes Hondas go nuts and doing so fixes all misifres. God bless Deo.

  • @chicoblaylock
    @chicoblaylock 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A transmission fluid change (actually followed by a second change after 500 miles) and change any transmission filters should be done. I would also use electrical contact cleaner on the TCM and at the transmission sensor plugs

  • @vincentmeadows1905
    @vincentmeadows1905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe an in cylinder pressure transducer test,because the pcm Is still noticing a miss every so often but not enough to trip a code ,or maybe that's just what we would like to see lol.Great job tho!love the channel.

  • @superieure1489
    @superieure1489 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What year is the Pilot? A 2016 does have an update for the torque management feedback signal. HONDA BULLETIN 16-008. Hopefully that helps.

  • @ericscott8695
    @ericscott8695 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I would look at the battery. If the battery is going bad it will cause the system to give you false codes.

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ericscott8695 Oh good to know, Thanks for sharing!

    • @norbertsenf1726
      @norbertsenf1726 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes, the battery voltage according to the scan tool is 11.5 V

  • @orlandodizo5097
    @orlandodizo5097 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow...I should bring my car to your shop if I have a problem. Where are you located at?

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @orlandodizo5097 we are located in Frederick MD, you can email us at kitsautoandtruckrepair@gmail.com to schedule an appointment

  • @svhebert
    @svhebert 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Deo after the valve adjustments i would do a diesel transmission fluid flush on it 👍

  • @DuaneDonaldson
    @DuaneDonaldson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You had a PILOT before in your videos, I took notes and you had this same code but it was not a concern in that video so no help from your older video?? Love all your stuff Bro. Cheers

  • @ekimbrough1413
    @ekimbrough1413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Deo...sound like you have a wiring harness issue. Pull out a breakout box and scan for CAN resistance. If the resistance is out of spec (other than around 60 ohms) you may have an intermittent open in the wiring to a module connection.

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ekimbrough1413 Great idea! But I scoped the network and the waveform looked great, I should have filmed that part, I will make sure I film every step of the process if the car comes back!

  • @quentintaylor3264
    @quentintaylor3264 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sometimes after 2 or 3 drive cycles. If the codes return. Disconnect negative battery cable. Disconnect Ecm & Tcm wire connectors. Spray both connectors with only electrical cleaner. Reconnect them.

  • @chrismoodley9618
    @chrismoodley9618 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The latest software is certainly required. These repairs will definitely be better with less repetition.

  • @professionalics
    @professionalics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chase the misfire to begin with, i see an aftermarket coil pack...clear all the codes, remove the battery terminals and short out any remaining power in the modules....leave it for about 10-15 mins and return everything back to normal.
    Check the battery voltage just incase.

  • @alfredofajardo8625
    @alfredofajardo8625 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello well done 👏

  • @GabrielEbenezer-b2s
    @GabrielEbenezer-b2s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the way you work my boss i wish to be good like you 😢❤

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-dw7jv9zi1d Thanks! Keep working and studying my friend you'll get there!

  • @rubengonzalez583
    @rubengonzalez583 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For some car like mitsubishi, you have to do a computer hard reset unplug the battery, and touch both terminal for a few minutes.

  • @will2u22
    @will2u22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Common hear at honda usually fuel injections needs replacing and hard reset and idle learn check fluid of transmission and level

    • @will2u22
      @will2u22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also the transmission takes special fluid that’s expensive most people don’t like to perform fluid service low fluid can cause range codes

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @will2u22 I heard that too thanks for sharing!

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @will2u22 Yeah!

  • @nesmio7378
    @nesmio7378 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The TCM is communicating with the ECM through CAN about torque info.
    If there is a misfire present - or has been in the past then the torque signal wasn't / isn't what the TCM expects because the misfire messes it up and makes it irregular.
    Solve the misfire and the TCM torque signal won't have any misfires ruining it and the TCM will be happy.
    Don't for the love of god replace TCM or PCM for this fault please. Solve the misfire by proper diagnostics - not guessing and not hoping and replacing random parts. Don't fire the parts cannon, that is not proper diagnostics and repair etiquette.

    • @cdbuiles
      @cdbuiles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the Ridgeline 2018. diagnosed by Honda with code P304. my vehicle is part of a campaign for faulty injectors. I believe this Pilot 2016 is part of the same campaign. About the VSA and Lane Assist …. check the battery voltage. Numerous Ridgeline 2nd gen owners report how an older battery gets weaker voltaje and some of the car modules starts to freak out. battery voltage lower than 12.4V may confuse the computer modules. replaced mine after 5yr and it looked its walls were a bit bulged out.

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @nesmio7378 That's not what we do in our shop here we don't fire the parts cannon! we Test not Guess! so we are gonna observe it and see if this fault comes back, Thanks for the suggestion!!

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cdbuiles Good to know, Thank you!

    • @wannaPreG
      @wannaPreG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think “cdbuiles“. Is new to your channel, that made him think you fire part canon. He should take time to go through your records before making these comment

    • @wannaPreG
      @wannaPreG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agreed with this comment, I have had tcm error code with this same dtc on Volvo cars, when the ecm has dtc, I will get that p2653 error codes but as soon as the errors are solve on the ecm side, they tcm torque message do not come back

  • @wsnxumalo6707
    @wsnxumalo6707 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like not to cause a customer to suffer a lot replscing a expensive parts when there in no enough proof of defective parts. I would love to know after sending beck thevehicle to a customer what happened after ? From South Africa

  • @dehualiang2525
    @dehualiang2525 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the common problem with this year of the Pilot, there is an extended warranty for this. Most Likely you need to replace the injector and reprogram ECM.

  • @Look4u_carfixing
    @Look4u_carfixing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's hard to diagnosis the problem if it not permanent because everything will be fine when diagnosis.. but I think the problem could be ground wire issue or some plugs lose

  • @humbertoarellano8887
    @humbertoarellano8887 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good video

  • @endaleberta3156
    @endaleberta3156 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i need obd 2 scanner bigenr help me how to used i live in ethiopia

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @endaleberta3156 Keep watching my videos and read some books on scan tool usage! you can email me at kitsautoandtruckrepair@gmail.com and I will recommend some books for you to get!

  • @jimmyj5557
    @jimmyj5557 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So this is not fixable?

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jimmyj5557 it is fixable! I will figure it out when the issue becomes permanent!

  • @rcf8367
    @rcf8367 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Probably time for trans fluid change & setting the valves lash at 100k…

    • @johnmac9055
      @johnmac9055 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have resolved intermittent misfires in several Honda 3.5s w/ over 100k miles by performing a valve adjustment. Seems to be a fairly common issue.

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @rcf8367 Good suggestion my friend, Thanks

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @johnmac9055 Oh ok! Good to know, Thank you!

  • @sahraciise7059
    @sahraciise7059 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi I ask you that where are located in Virginia

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sahraciise7059 I'm located in Dickerson MD, you can email me at kitsautoandtruckrepair@gmail.com for shop info and to set up an appointment!

  • @Toyo2024
    @Toyo2024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do abs project please

  • @seanveitch8444
    @seanveitch8444 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that an engine that requires valve clearances to be manually set

  • @mohabatkhanmalak1161
    @mohabatkhanmalak1161 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think something to do with bad electric connections especially the ECM, TCM side. The car has done 100K miles, and gone through several seasons, so thats an area to look into.🐞

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mohabatkhanmalak1161 Good suggestion but I checked Powers and grounds off camera for the TCM & ECM and they were fine, I believe tthe ECM is failing so we will see if it comes back!!

  • @edwinvargas7994
    @edwinvargas7994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks like a ground problem 😊

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @edwinvargas7994 Good suggestion! I checked Grounds and Powers they are good!

  • @crownafro-euro524
    @crownafro-euro524 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Autel maxisys ultra can do a software update on that car

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @crownafro-euro524 Oh really? I didn't know that the Autel Ultra can update the software on this!

  • @JattaVictor
    @JattaVictor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If it is me I will give the car back to the customer to test drive and see

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-dz4jb5rg6k Good suggestion that's what I did, when the issue becomes permanent, the customer will bring it back!

  • @endaleberta3156
    @endaleberta3156 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I NEED AND I HAVE OBD2 SCANNER BIGNER PLICE GIVE ME HOW TO WORKE MY BAKE GEROUND AUTOMOTIVE MECHANICS

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @endaleberta3156 Sorry! I didn't understand your question what do you want to do with your brakes?

  • @martinarrieta248
    @martinarrieta248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grasias

  • @edwinvargas7994
    @edwinvargas7994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Find the common denominator in the wiring diagram!

  • @crownafro-euro524
    @crownafro-euro524 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The vehicle is fixed you did an ECU reset and it automatically restored itself to the factory setup

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @crownafro-euro524 Really? I not really sure if it's fixed! we will see if it comes back!!

  • @Toyo2024
    @Toyo2024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For my knowledge this car has some electric issues and also the other mechanic the change aftermarket parts.

  • @ivanpeterzell695
    @ivanpeterzell695 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The shop before you was parts canon.

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ivanpeterzell695 Yes I agree, Good to have you here in the comment section Brother!

  • @Swenser
    @Swenser 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You can never trust what a person at honda tells you if it doesnt match with other info. You clearly showed others have fixed problem with update. I think honda are talking nonsense to get rid of you.

  • @ganeshnarayan5505
    @ganeshnarayan5505 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could be a bad alternator i have seen this on my 06 Honda Odyssey.

  • @wzthonda8013
    @wzthonda8013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DTC p0304 misfire cause DTC p2638 store in TCM replace injector set relearn idle system should take care of this problem injector still warranty by HONDA.

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @wzthonda8013 Good suggestion but wouldn't a defective injector cause a constant misfire? that cylinder barely misfired, The customer will bring the car back when it gets bad and I will make sure I check the injector!

    • @wzthonda8013
      @wzthonda8013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair depend how severe clog fuel injector. Honda Warranty Extension: 10 years or 150000 miles for 17-19 pilot due to defective parts also include update PCM update 9 speed transmission TCM. you can perform air fuel ratio test see injector pass or fail{rich} test . Fuel Injector Kit part# 06160-RLV-305

  • @mdashiqurrahman39
    @mdashiqurrahman39 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its looks like electric faults. Honda very bad on electric fault. My sister 's hoda got all kinds off different different issues and most places she went they couldn't figured it out because they don't have honda diagram even dealership charged her 6000 to rebuild her engine and it still full of issues, i highly doubt dealership ever rebuild or change the engine but they definitely changed her $6000 and couldn't fix issues and a day later she was getting misfire. Her ac compressor had been changed 4 times and alternator had been changed 3 times but no one fixed the real issues but told it got electric fault somewhere. I think this vehicle has electric faults and yes ecu could be causing all those things

    • @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair
      @KITS_Auto_and_Truck_Repair  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mdashiqurrahman39 Yes! the ECU could be failing on this car but I'll see if it comes back