StarCraft 2: EPIC MATCH - Clem vs Dark! (Best-of-7)
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- Epic match of professional StarCraft 2 between Clem and Dark. In this best-of-7 series from the TSL 7 we watch two top level pro gamers fight it out in some very clever games. Clem doesn't really lose Terran versus Zerg in Europe anymore, but Dark plays a Korean version of ZvT that's different than what Clem is used to.
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I dunno if you'll see this Lowko, but thank you for all the StarCraft Content. You're the only caster I watch for these matches and if it wasn't for you, I wouldnt have a smile on my face Everytime I come back home from work. Keep up the great work and keep being awesome. Love you man.
Thank you Jeremy!
Ditto!!
Totally agree!
I don't even play SC2, never have actually. Still watch as good as all of the Lowko casts, that kinda proves how great the content is huh :)
Totally agree, I don't even play the game :D
did anyone else see when clem targets his own reaper with two hellions to kill a creep tumor, this guy is insane
saw that in another game, it was a protoss game they used the colossus to laser I think a zealot or immortal over something to kill it, big IQ plays for sure
21:26 is the timestamp, if anyone's interested
@@kureneye2681 thx :)
Wooooaaaw, thank you for sharing
And Dark actually in one game was popping up Nydus Worm next to a Tank to bait other tankshot and took down the tank.
Lowko: "Wis approach makes no sense!"
Dark: "Move like water, rush like the tide."
When you troll ladder: Florencio
When you troll Pro players: DARK
Caster curse in the first 6 minutes LOL
What’s the caster curse?
@Robert Yang “This will never happen”
>this happens
Clem won’t die to stupid stuff!
(2 minutes later)
Dies to stupid stuff
@@robertyang4365 same thing when sports announcers say stuff like "this kicker hasn't missed from this distance in his entire career, so you have to think it's a gimme" and then the kicker misses
"Dark is like the strongest man in the world, and he is doing ridiculous strong man things, he is flipping monster truck tires down the street"
Tasteless 2020
Clem was doing insane shit, I mean, some of these widow mines had 20+ kills, but of course zerg is op as fk so it didn't matter in the end.
U hatin little girl, so mad one guy won in a video game over another. Shut up
@@SyperDT It's OP as in one mistake and it all comes tumbling down, while terran got more room to work with.
@@SyperDT Clem literally smashes nearly every TVsZ and you can still say with a straight face that Zerg is OP? LOL
@@amanekun1243 He has to work his ass as for those wins while Zerg take so many losses and can still win easily.just by spamming lings.
These guys make Starcraft seem like art, the amount of creativity and personality in their gameplay is nuts.
Dark is by far my favorite zerg player. Love the swarmy style. Love the unpredictable nature of his builds. Every game is different and interesting. Cast more Dark games, please.
A couple of years ago I think Reynor played a bit more like this. He should bring it back. Dark is currently looking better.
He explains in that video that he would and why he doesn't, because often his replay are not available so there's that
"close out the fullscreen and do me a favor and hit that like button" - Lowko doing some voodoo stuff as i was clicking the like button
A bit more than 15 minutes left, the end is near...
Papa Doc Lowko.
Same here. Never before have I liked and commented, but here we are.
How did he know I was doing that exactly at this moment?
Who waited to be reminded to hit like?
Dark just looked so strong in this match. Makes you think that the other top zerg need to play more dynamically.
Exactly. The stiff build orders are nice for Terran and Toss but Zerg was always described as a kind of reactive race that puts their money on ambushes, adaptation and numbers. It's hard to pull off but if you do sometimes it's the only way to win lol
He recognized Clem doesn't like Siege tanks so he overflooded the map with Lings lol
@@VArsovski10 TBF both tanks and mines are doing splash, but lings outrun bio, so you can just make more lings, run in deep and surround tight and thin so the splash hurts them as much as it hurts you. Once you're in there, few lings per tank then banes to clean up the already weakened bio.
1:14:20 - closed full-screen, clicked the like button. Great series.
Yeah, keep enjoying LoCo.
This series was nuts. So good to see Zerg rise to the Clem challenge
I love that Dark isn't afraid to move off creep and push the battle. It's terrifying to watch, but it's also amazing to see a fearless Zerg player.
It really makes clear how little work it really takes Zerg to win by just trading poorly over and over and leveraging their abundance of cheap units and fast production via injected hatcheries. As we saw in this zeries, a bunch of ling bane running in along with the main attack and there's just nothing any Terran unit composition can do to make a dent in the horde of cannon fodder before the Ravagers or casters can get in position to doom the Terran's expensive units with Bile, Fungal Growth, Parasitic Bomb, or just a bunch of Banelings. There's no real position or setup that gives Terran a way to intercept this flood or trade well against it, I would argue that the Siege Tanks were a waste of money throughout most of this series and that the Widow Mines typically killed more Terran units than zerg. Clem definitely spends too much time retreating instead of shooting, but if he stood his ground he would just get recycled by the high DPS of upgraded ling bane with the only difference being a few more of those killed before the entire Terran army died. There are so many comments complimenting Dark, don't people realize he's using the same tactic in basically every situation and Terran has no answer to it other than stationary turtling with a dozen or more tanks? You have to move out on the map to win the game and the mobility of mass zerglings makes it too too easy to punish when Terran is out of position.
@@keamu8580 salty terran player
@@joshuabacker2363 For real, thats a lot of words to just say he's bad at the game.
@@joshuabacker2363
tl;dr
Zerg OP? Protoss OP?
I closed full-screen, hit the like button. And finished watching the whole the thing
Same!
I mean it took me like 3 breakfasts of watching this to watch the entire thing, but hey. :D
"I've been getting 90-110 thousands views." You're sitting just shy of 480 thousand at the time of this writing!
Honestly, when I came back to SC2 a few years ago, all the casters I used to follow had quit, or were no longer doing SC2. I almost quit watching, but then I came across your channel, which has since become the very first channel I go to for any SC2 content. The care you put into making sure to deliver content with as high a quality as possible is very clear, and I would just like to thank you for all this, and I look forward to more of your content!
1:14:06 oh hell yeah. I watch all your casts back-back, and best of 7s just means more for me. I don't always watch them in one sitting, but youtube's good about resuming where I left off thankfully when I need to watch in segments
I have to say: there are two player i love watching right now: Parting with his play style and Clem. always makes my day
since you asked, hit the like button. sitting watching 1:14:00 comes around LOWKO: "if your still here, push that like button". i didnt even notice the time till you said that it was over an hour long
same, I think if it's that action packed even 2 hours would be fine
46:22 "One thing i dont like here is that 3 3 hasn't started up yet for Clem"
Dark: *Dies*
I was like..... whaaaaaaat???????
I like a variety of video lengths. While I often only have time to watch the shorter videos in one sitting, I have found that splitting up a longer series like this one into segments is fun. I watch what I have time for and am always looking forward to when I can get back to continue/finish the video. Thank you Lowko for the excellent content.
Longer matches like this help me through my work day, always a fan of seeing Zerg kickass too
Lowko, are you sure it isn't LiqudClam playing?
Jokes aside, really good series! Keep up the great work Lowko!
Dude, I'm down with these long best of 7's. This was an intense match and I certainly sat thru the whole thing.
Lowko: trying to explain what Dark is going to do.
Dark: do something totally different.
Lowko: 🤔🤨🤔🤨
Watching Dark is just so satisfying, i could just sit and watch his gameplay for hours. And your voice is also entertaining ^^
17:21 We thank you for the work you put into this
Seconded!
Dark's first games are what i have imagined zerg should be played as since i was a child, i remember the LAN parties with my friends when i was little, i've been following the game since i can remember and this is the zerg i've been craving for. I love this so much, I really hope the korean tournaments will start releasing their replay packs, god this is a majestic game, GG dark GG clem. Amazing.
Amazing cast Lowko, thank you for feeding my Starcraft hunger
The moment Lowko says “Is Clem doing it?”, Clem dies...
Lowko: I hope you are ready
Me: HELL YEAH I AM *sits down on 🚽*
0.0 Please be wary of prolapsing your... burrow mechanic.
You sit on the toilet for 1 hour and 30 minutes
@@cho.gath789 don’t blame me it’s lowko’s fault
1h30 of poopoo
Dude, I watch these things in several sittings. The long casts are my favourite because I have plenty to watch over the day!
"But already the worm has inserted itself into the main base..." That just sounds dirty to me Lowko :)
This was a great cast!
In response to your question about mental stamina, I've found that mine has actually increased as I've gotten older, but I've also lost my appetite for expending it. In other words, I've learned how to focus on tasks better and avoid distractions, and I'm less mentally drained at the end of the day, but part of that comes from my understanding of what actually IS mentally draining and avoiding those tasks unless absolutely necessary.
I think that professional gamers reach an age where they just feel like there are easier ways to make money than playing really difficult, very stressful video games for a living. We only see them in tournaments, but literally hundreds of hours of practice goes into a tournament showing. Compare that to my job as someone who owns an IT project management company: I'm pretty much done with the most time-intensive parts of my education and training. The vast majority of my time is spent on productive tasks that directly make me money. My earnings are likely pretty similar to what all but the very best Starcraft 2 professional gamers make, but with a fraction of the expended effort.
Anecdotal evidence: I once was an executive at a small company that had a former professional gamer on staff (Halo 2 and 3). He shifted into IT around the age of 26 because he had used his tournament winnings (about $350k in total over 5 years) and sponsorship earning (he never told me how much that was) to buy a house and secure a stable life for himself and his wife, and now he just wanted a "regular life" with his family. It's true that he made less money, but he also spent dramatically less time working. This gave him the mental and emotional bandwidth to raise a family and enjoy life.
The only "professional gaming" role he still had was a shoutcast tournaments. He said it was like free money: you show up with minimal preparation, have fun casting games you would watch anyway, and get paid for your trouble. People loved him and it was good additional revenue. Maybe you can relate!
Edit: when I play Zerg vs. Terran, I just stick on Ling/Bane. Terran splash damage is terrible and I can usually use it to kill their own units. That last game is indicative of how I play because it doesn't take a lot of micro: lots of A-move Zerglings with Infestors and Banelings to support them, basically. It allows me to use my leftover APM, which is really quite low, to just keep macroing behind it while staying aggressive.
I agree. Focus and mental stamina increases with age, but the motivation to spend it in highly stressful tasks decreases a lot
By far my favorite caster. Love these videos! Now back to watching.
I love hearing your excitement for watching SC. Your joy is infectious while watching these, even after all these hundreds and hundreds of hours.
Bro, not only did I click the like button on my TV TH-cam app, I opened my laptop to leave a comment on how much I enjoy these videos. With videos like these, I sit down in the living room and watch the whole hour plus video in 4K on a 70" TV with headphones so I can fully enjoy your content. LOVING IT.
By far the best series I've seen in a long time. Watched this 5+ times already. This style of zerg is fun to watch.
The sea of rumbling laughter as the audience watches lokow's self-conscious take hold 1:15:00
I watched it specifically because of the length. You know that any Bo7 that goes for 90 minutes is one that is pretty close the entire way and definitely worth watching
When it comes to pure casting SC2 entertainment lowko is the go to. You can make a 2 hour video, and I would watch it looks, because I get so much information about how and why certain players make the decisions they do and how it impacts the game.
The only other SC2 Castor I listen to is Harstem, but that's not for pure casting that's a 50/50 split of minutiae strategy and the best quips in all of sc2.
Lowko for analytics, Harstem for color and high level tips.
and tastetosis for the top tier banter
Like the time he uploaded like 6 hours of Zerg campaign with carbot animation style
Winter is pretty good for entertainment too
there's a quote from the Google founders about Jeff Dean's programing. "Jeff pumped out elegant code like a champagne fountain at a wedding."
"It seemed to pour from him effortlessly in endless streams that flowed together to form sparkling programs that did remarkable things.
The battle at 1:25:25 is truly one of the most cinematic experiences I've ever witnessed in the scene. Dark's Zerg micro is truly a work of art
Thanks for the quick replay on that one game where Dark left after that weird hydra medivac marine battle. I was confused as hell too :D Thanks fer puttin the love into the videos.
lowko 1 hours and 13 mins into the cast: if you made it this far like the vid
me who enjoys lowko every day not missing even one SC2 cast of his, jet not "liking" any of them: you know what, maybe I can make an exception this one time
I'm closing in on my 40's, I've been wanting to pick up StarCraft just to test the reaction decline theory.
Adding, going to give it a go. Let's find out for science!
One quick tip to get really, really good at the game:
Never, ever, skip scout. And if you opponent has the gall to skip scouting, cheese that bastard, because 80% of the time, those players never see it coming.
Also cheese works very well (If timed well) from diamond 2 and below.
@@HungPham-qq6me I used to play LoL, so far I've been trying to learn the game by battling the AI to get down the hotkeys, flow and basic gameplay.
Seems like early game pressure is either required or you need to be able to defend against it.
@@ChadZLumenarcus yep. The game is all about aggression and pressure. Everyone can macro by button smashing, but the trick lies in who can micro drops, run-bys, splits, and who can make the executive decision of cannon cheese ingredients.
Verdict?
I had another caster show up on my feed, and I made it 10 whole seconds before I went looking for old Lowko videos to watch. You're the best man.
Made it all the way to 1 hour and 14 mins and beyond. You're the only SC2 caster I watch. Gogo Lowko.
Finally, someone found a way how to beat Clem. Absolutly ridicolously played from dark.
Yeah I liked the part where he made lots of zerglings and attacked with them
Watching a lot of pro TvZ I feel that Terran has bad odds in late game, just because it cannot maintain a competetive economy. Banes roll in - kill PF and 20 workers every 2min and after a while it is over. At the same time, Terran hardly gets any economy damage done to the late game Zerg.
@@ruffianeo3418 It depends. If Terran is ahead, Terran tends to stomp Zerg with efficiency, but if Zerg is ahead his macro just goes out of control
1:05:10 Lowko you miss that but that's a very nice widow mines retargetting, damn
I was checking out the comments to see if anyone else noticed this. It didn't even look like retargeting to me, can you hold fire widow mines?
That was great. Honestly the longer games are fun to watch.
I think really long games are kinda boring. On the other hand, long séries like this one are dream
@@Leonardodeboni0406 I've certainly seen long games that feel like should have ended long ago.
Thanks for casting Lowko! Haven't played Starcraft since WoL, but I really enjoy watching some pro's going against each other.
And we can tell that you love watching SC2, that's why we have subscribed 💕
Been waiting for the boss fight for so long now
These are awesome! Don’t hesitate to do more hour+ long videos in the future Lowko. Your commentary is great.
I enjoy your narration and snap-to-action camera work. Definitely have become my favorite SC2 caster.
Great series Lowko! No way I'd skip a video like this, though I didn't see it all in the same day.
1:14:21 I gotchu fam, I love your stuff
Wow, what a Dark opener. These guys are on another level.
Update: Took me all day to get through it as I try to raise my litter of children, but I am totally game for more best of 7's. Love the content.
Good for you! Raising children and watching pro StarCraft.
1:14:26 hell yeah, I'm still here. This series is crazy! Thanks for casting it!
Lowko, as a truck driver i spend most of my days away from home. But watching your casts are always my favorite way to pass my down time.
Thanks for the long videos!!!!
what makes dark so good is simply not how he maneuvers around those widow mines, but how he quickly recovers, macros back into the game after throwing away/losing hundreds of lings to those widow mines.
It's fucking lings, the whole 1 ling counts as half a unit is just total bullshit. This allows zerg get a 400 supply with upgraded lings just broken as hell.
@@aryksanchez5070 hey I'm out of salt, can I borrow some of yours?
@@PenguinIceDelta that's funny i like that
@@aryksanchez5070 Zerglings melt to just about anything else, especially widow mines. In order to seem "broken", they have to be flawlessly controlled. Dark seems to know every one of them on the first name basis, that is the only way to pull it off.
@@gvasilyev84 Yes but zerglings are very cheap and can easily be thrown away like nothing.....and zerg have the unique ability to just pump out a 100 man zergling and baneling army is unparalled.
Glad you are feeling better and casting !!!
Thanks for casting Lowko, keep it up
Never played Starcraft 2 myself, but I love watching these videos. You are great at casting, so thank you for what you do!
54:00 this is what we saw from AlphaStar, how it played unpredictably and weirdly, no solid "build order".
Human beings are the evolutionary proof that adaptability is king in a competitive environment.
We just havent had 10 million years of Starcraft e-sports to discover that yet. So it starts with rigid build orders and "rules" for what is "best" to do. But then eventually it opens up as people realize the value of adaptability and unpredictability.
Was nervous all throughout this series that my favorite player would be rolled over by Clem x3
3:55 - NYDUS!
4:42 - NYDUS GOING IN!
11:14 - Opening? More like a trap!
23:20 - I love your reaction to these macro hatcheries xD
25:18 - Random push that ends 31 SCVs...
26:53 - Another 25 SCVs... down to 22 SCVs vs 71 drones...
27:50 - MULE on repairing duty, RIP
36:49 - Each zergling taking turns at the reaper
37:30 - 200 IQ
42:05 - Nice seeing contaminate being used
49:49 - Spawning pool positioning SeemsGood
56:50 - Counterattack time!
58:42 - Empty medivac isn't empty lowPog
1:01:54 - DEEP PUSH!!!
1:03:45 - No scan available, LMAO!
1:06:56 - Random push that ends 57 SCVs!
1:08:20 - Wow! This timestamp I've rewatched... too many times...
1:12:24 - RIP another 41 SCVs... 88 drones vs 15 SCVs now...
1:24:39 - Strategic retreat to clump up the Terran units for fungal!
1:25:24 - Bile galore! RIP siege tanks and everything else...
Love when Dark plays with casters, liked the video :3!
We used to have a saying in the pro CS leagues back in the day. "Never underestimate the bait". I think Dark is my new favorite now, too. :)
I actually always have videos on the side when I am playing a game and not streaming....it's kinda calming, and longer videos like this are really nice for that....in addition to sc2 being fun
Lowko, my job requires me to stay guarding a screen and use two computers now and then, I have a lot of dead time, 90 minutes long videos of top professional Starcraft 2 players are perfect for me. Btw Dark is insanely good
MORE! MORE! That was epic! As a Terran player, I sympathize with Clem. Terran players typically like order, we’re not keen on chaos. How Dark was playing though? That was chaos at it’s finest. I believe that was how Blizzard envisioned Zerg to be played: Swarmy and chaotic. It’s hard to anticipate anything when your opponent doesn’t follow any procedure or standards.
Right? When Darks Ling bane Swarm enveloped Clems entire base while his army was across the map multiple times in that third game I was suprised he could still hang on, that first one would have killed me lmao 25:19
Yea, i agree. Im a shitty Starcraft player, but what gives me a edge is that Zergs are way too chaotic and when it comes to warfare, im chaos all the way. And i don't see a Insect commander going any other way than Chaos, misdirection, hit and runs, ambushes and double encirclement when critical mass is achieved.
love this best of 7, became a dark fan. his late game is my favorite
100% we want more BO7. Especially whatever dark replays you can get your hands on. Great content dude! Always love it
Never played this game but this was sick, watched the whole thing
Lowko: "Pull out game strong Dark! Never said that to another man.... uh...uh...."
Wondering if he's used it on a woman.
An Hour and 14 minutes in and will definitely be watching till the end, great commentary!
1:14:15 "You probably are fullscreen right now, right? Do me a favor and close the fullscreen and hit the like button."
First of all, how did you know? Secondly, of course! Give us more Best of 7! Awesome video as always. You make me smile and laugh Lowko!
Crazy series. That was one of the best series ive seen in a lomg time.
I watch any of your SC2 casting. Whether it's 5mins or 50mins
don't worry as long as there's clem I'm watching even if the video is longer than 2 hours lol
Around 01:14:00 - Yes, we ARE staying this long into the video. This video is gold! Thank you for your content.
We also appreciate you Lowko
I love the best of 7 so far h1:15:00min.
Clem actually lost a game, I’m surprised
Then you must have not watched SC2 closely, Clem has been trending downward for the last 2-3 weeks.
I don't usually watch these really long videos, but matches with your commentaries are fun to watch... so you earned that like!
Watched this as 3 parts, but great video. Last two games seems like "what should terran do?"
Impressive performance by Dark
When Dark is in beast mode he wins blizzcon dropping only 1 map , he trashes Serral 4-0 and confidently beats the best TvZ player on the planet. Dark is the best in my eyes.
Are zerg players really fine with queens being such an all purpose unit? I mean, it was intended to be a defensive unit that helped with production and creep, but now if you can work around their lack of speed, they can do pretty much everything. They're tanky, deal good damage (both air and ground), can be a frontline or a backline all the while healing everything. You don't use queens to support either your base or you army, you use your army to support your queens.
Meanwhile ultralisks are utter garbage
I'm really curious about it
Zerg players are using their earlygame kit more since their lategame kit got nerfed. Lowko has talked a lot about how bad Zerg's AA is (worst AA out of all the races even before they lost infested terrans). Think about countering hellions and hellbats, units that counter swarms of low HP units. Your options in the early game are roaches, spine crawlers, or queens. Two of those things can't shoot up. Theoretically ravagers are AA units but since fungal is no longer a hard lockdown, there's no realistic way to bile air units if your opponent is looking at them.
They can't nerf queen's health or battlecruisers become unstoppable (think about how easily they mulch hydras). They can't nerf queen's range or liberators become a problem (medivacs too at the pro level). They can't nerf queen's damage or early game protoss air harrass will become too powerful. They already vastly nerfed the burst heal on transfuse, they nerfed creep tumors of all things, inject is the zerg macro mechanic so obviously nerfing it would just lower the skill ceiling. Queens are one of those knife's edge units where a slight buff/nerf could wildly unbalance one of zergs' early or mid game matchups.
Well if you nerfed Queens you would positively have to buff another early game unit to maintain balance, but buffing an actual combat unit would break the game, with much more devastating all-ins.
49:10 I like how you ask a complex psychological/medical question and you give it to the comment section. They're the experts after all.
Keep being awesome 😎
I watch to the end of all your videos. It's very instructive watching long matches. The subtle and blatant changes to strategy between games is suspenseful.
Here we are a year later all watching professional starcraft2 and I'm glad to be watching this too
I appreciated the best of 7 man, I threw it on and watched/listened on my 2nd screen while working on a project. This was great haha
Got to be honest here. This is my first time watching Startcraft II tournaments. Just started playing a week ago. And your content is the cleanest of all the starcraft content creators. Keep it up my guy!
Hey Lowko!! Not the kind of guy to leave comments on a TH-cam video, but you saying you're qurious whether we're interested in hour-long videos was just irresistable!! I truly am a fan of your cast and I really look forward to your great videos😆
Thank you always!!
dear lowko
i just wanna tell you how much i enjoy your videos your do
especially since i don't even play starcraft myself but you made it really fun to watch. thank you very much for that!
Lowko, official olde man... Stopped playing at 54, only 4 years ago. Even with never missing an SCV, control group all buildings, great timing, great scout, the APM was dropping to about 70, the Micro was lost altogether. Stll love the game, loved the original too. Back in the day used buildings to block Ramps due to the fast Zerglings... The ability to actually move my hands, and hit the keys even in 'grid' setup was no longer natural, I was looking at my hand. Bronze League Heros on steriods... so I watch!
You probably can't even move your fingers at that age to be able to play SC2.
We simply LOVE watching longer sc2 videos from you, don't even think about it ;)
Great content as always! You’re the only reason I have come back to StarCraft time and time again since Wings of Liberty. I watch more of your StarCraft videos than I play the game now a days. Haha.
Of course I made it to the end of the video. Amazing series and refreshing to see Clem struggle in TvZ after being incredibly dominant against both Serral and Reynor.
Although i'm not a starcraft player i found your videos (this one especially) quite soothing and helpful for sleeping (like ASMR) and i was watching it from my couch when you mentioned the fullscreen.
OMG! This video is an hour and a half of Lowko casting SC2?! YAAAAASSSS!!
Don't know if you'll see this lowko, but I really do enjoy the best of 7's and don't mind the longer videos. Especially top level stuff like this one
My man, I love the long videos. Do more best of 7! I haven't watched this stuff for years and I missed it, top stuff mate.
Awesome series, great casting! No issues at all with length. Thanks Lowko!
This video is so entertaining @lowkotv - it is simply so hilarious how excited you are about darks play. As if it was Christmas every 4 minutes. I was laughing so much. Just great work. I should go back to supporting you once again. I stopped since I don't have time to watch your twitch anymore.
Another marvellous match. Thx for upload and commentary. Lovin it!