I'm assuming it was the parameters of the competition, but he didn't leave the boxes ready for sheetrock. nothing was folded into the boxes, and the leads for the 3 way switches weren't made up to make it clear which were the travelers and which was the common. it makes the rough in faster, but iut makes trimout slower, and increases the likelihood of troubleshooting.
Travelers are easy to figure out without labels. The black coming from the 14-2 is common in both boxes, all whites are neutrals, and the black/red from the 14-3 are the travelers in both boxes.
@@illestofdemall13 and that mindset is why I averaged an hour and a half of troubleshooting per job when I worked for brand X. although it was a different corner they cut to make their rough ins a half hour faster per job.
All whites are not always neutrals. And 3 wire shouldn’t be used. 14-2-2 or 12-2-2. Now you can pull power for a plug off that “dead end “ 3way and not be missing a wire(neutral).
@@billydlux9875 you shouldn't be pulling plugs off your light circuit. and if you're doing a "dead end" switch loop, you are now required to have a neutral in the box. but yeah, a lot of electricians still don't know 4 wire is a thing.
Looking at the schematic 1:54 just curious why 20 amp circuits are not used for all three circuits? Any reason why it wouldn’t be a good idea to have three individual 20 amp circuits instead? Thank you.
considering garage receptacle circuits are required to be 20 A circuits, and unless they are a dedicated appliance receptacle, are required to be GFCI protected. there also used to be a minimum height requirement in residential garages. the contestant did pretty good. the architect failed.
I always see people go straight into the box. Not a big fan of this especially when you're a big company and have many apprentices. During makeup, a lot of times the end of the sheathing will pop out of the box. I always strip my wire at the bottom of the box which creates a "service loop" which will save your ass in a lot of scenarios
only at the panel is it 12" and only for the hots... Its 6" (150mm) of free conductor minimum everywhere else. I thought the US code was very similar to the CEC when it came to basic stuff like this.
@@dlrwirelesspro he probably used the correct size gauage on one of the wires and then the other wire he uses a lower gauge and probably nicked the copper a little bit but saved time.
I’d never wanna do this for speed and while being recorded on top of that. I’m not there nor do I plan to ever be. I’ll stick to being slow and steady with few mistakes. (Knocks on wood)
You said in the description box of this video that they were roughing in a garage wall. How come they installed 15 amp receptacles? When NEC code clearly states, all garage outlets shall be 20 amp.
Check the video closely. He left his 12 to do. The receptacle is a little too close to the edge of the stud. Could be problematic when they go to hang sheet rock.
@@jheiny1231 Union guys shouldn’t have any say in any significant conversation. You have literally zero clue how to do anything in a practical sort of way. Put you in a 100 year old house and told to wire a new circuit in and you guys walk away crying. Please stop embarrassing yourself in the comments for no reason
If that’s the speed these guys are going, then the bar is not that high…too bad this competition is voluntary and often the best electricians just don’t want to bother this
@@SparkyChannel it's interesting to see what level of detail they go,,, this is only my opinion but this younge man could of used a fex more staples on his wiring he had time to do so,, in your pro video you can see the young lady apprentice had done so,, none the less interesting to watch thanks for sharing this with us
@@tannerbushey9196 That was Emma. She was really good. I wish that I would have had a camera on all of her performance. She did advance to the finals, and she deserved it too. I was filming Greg, the pro, but she did appear in the video now and then. Perhaps I'll make a video on staples. It seems to be an area of interest.
19:28 They're obviously uniform ... everyone in the competition is wearing them. The shirts are from Duluth Trading Company, so maybe the pants are too? *Probably* all provided by ideal just like the tools and Tool belts...
as a 5th year i can tell you that i would have drilled out my holes in such a way that the only staple i would need would be the one going into the light.
That’s crazy the guy who won didn’t even bother running his wires neat lol I would of did that whole project in 15 mins and it would of looked way nicer not to hate just makes me wanna enter this competition! 1st year
I understand. It's important to have confidence. To enter next year's competition and take your shot at winning some of $600,000 in cash and prizes: www.idealind.com/us/en.html?cid=pao56:cmn2018:mdm51:bzn20:uco08
Even for apprentices these guys are pretty slow tbh . Doing electrical Roughs aren't as hard to learn as you think and there are so may faster methods and techniques to accessing your bits and tools way easier.
Why y'all don't have the Bahamas in this contest USA vs Bahamas that will be interesting unless USA afraid of getting alil beat down from the Bahamas in the electrical champion ship
I would of smoked him pull multiple home runs at same time why would you run wire then go back to the boxes a 2nd time to staple im gonna show my boss for a raise
Romex should be illegal to use. Such a dangerous option and fire hazard. I would get fired for even saying romex here in Chicago. Would be gone before half the word was out of my mouth
Good vid Bill ... Getting closer to the finale ... Thx for sharing as always ...
You bet. Thanks Eddy!
Nice
If I had one guy working at this speed I would be worth millions. Well done young buck. Keep up the excellent work.
I know what you mean! Thanks!
Didn't use his pliers as a hammer to install boxes , minus 10 points lol.
I was gonna say the same thing lol
No trades should be glorifying being the "fastest". Least of all electrical.
You must do drywall
@@Kingstilo951 nah industrial controls
@@Kingstilo951 you're definitely a drywall kinda guy seems how you like to assume without any knowledge.
@@Jimmy2Fingers you must be union
@@ZombiieNation no
Not a broom in sight 😂
LOL!
I'm assuming it was the parameters of the competition, but he didn't leave the boxes ready for sheetrock. nothing was folded into the boxes, and the leads for the 3 way switches weren't made up to make it clear which were the travelers and which was the common. it makes the rough in faster, but iut makes trimout slower, and increases the likelihood of troubleshooting.
Absolutely correct on all counts. Thanks Ken!
Travelers are easy to figure out without labels. The black coming from the 14-2 is common in both boxes, all whites are neutrals, and the black/red from the 14-3 are the travelers in both boxes.
@@illestofdemall13 and that mindset is why I averaged an hour and a half of troubleshooting per job when I worked for brand X. although it was a different corner they cut to make their rough ins a half hour faster per job.
All whites are not always neutrals. And 3 wire shouldn’t be used. 14-2-2 or 12-2-2. Now you can pull power for a plug off that “dead end “ 3way and not be missing a wire(neutral).
@@billydlux9875 you shouldn't be pulling plugs off your light circuit. and if you're doing a "dead end" switch loop, you are now required to have a neutral in the box. but yeah, a lot of electricians still don't know 4 wire is a thing.
Looking at the schematic 1:54 just curious why 20 amp circuits are not used for all three circuits? Any reason why it wouldn’t be a good idea to have three individual 20 amp circuits instead? Thank you.
I'd guess it's to make sure they can read blueprints properly
Tanner got it right.
Yep.
Thank you.
considering garage receptacle circuits are required to be 20 A circuits, and unless they are a dedicated appliance receptacle, are required to be GFCI protected. there also used to be a minimum height requirement in residential garages. the contestant did pretty good. the architect failed.
I always see people go straight into the box. Not a big fan of this especially when you're a big company and have many apprentices. During makeup, a lot of times the end of the sheathing will pop out of the box. I always strip my wire at the bottom of the box which creates a "service loop" which will save your ass in a lot of scenarios
In Canada we have to have 300mm (12”) worth of cable in a loop at each device box.
Interesting, thanks!
only at the panel is it 12" and only for the hots... Its 6" (150mm) of free conductor minimum everywhere else. I thought the US code was very similar to the CEC when it came to basic stuff like this.
What tool did he use to cut and strip all the neutral wires simultaneously? At 16:08
I’m pretty sure it’s the ideal romex strippers
I don't know how that tool could cut 3ish neutral wires and stripped them all at the same time 16:08.
He used a pair of wire strippers.
@@Ayomari1993 to cut and strip 3 wires at the same time?
@@dlrwirelesspro he probably used the correct size gauage on one of the wires and then the other wire he uses a lower gauge and probably nicked the copper a little bit but saved time.
I wish we had the same in my Country,it looks fun
Yes, the competitions are fun!
I’d never wanna do this for speed and while being recorded on top of that. I’m not there nor do I plan to ever be. I’ll stick to being slow and steady with few mistakes. (Knocks on wood)
Sounds good, thanks!
What’s the name of that plastic push took you use in some videos. To push and fold wires in boxes ?
"Voltclaw"
Very cool. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
You said in the description box of this video that they were roughing in a garage wall. How come they installed 15 amp receptacles? When NEC code clearly states, all garage outlets shall be 20 amp.
You're correct. There should not be 15A receptacles in a garage. I think they wanted to test the apprentices to see if they could work from a drawing.
What was the point of him pigtail in his plug? But pick Talon receptacle he now has to buy three GFI’s instead of two.
Pigtail is to keep the circuit working in case of mechanical damage to the receptacle.
It also doesn’t let you know a plug is buried. Hot wires in the wall. I guess if you cap them all. Still I wanna know when something is buried.
Check the video closely. He left his 12 to do. The receptacle is a little too close to the edge of the stud. Could be problematic when they go to hang sheet rock.
Thanks!
Any reason why they don’t run emt?
Im thinking because it’s not a commercial setting 🤷♂️
The pros had to run emt through the studs for this round. The apprentices ran the Romex type cable.
Romex should be illegal to use. What a dangerous option and fire hazard. Pipe is the only way to go. Chicago local 134 here
@@jheiny1231 ok muh dude, we get it, you gotta run emt everywhere
@@jheiny1231 Union guys shouldn’t have any say in any significant conversation. You have literally zero clue how to do anything in a practical sort of way. Put you in a 100 year old house and told to wire a new circuit in and you guys walk away crying. Please stop embarrassing yourself in the comments for no reason
i wish our insulator was that easy to remove in canada
The insulation on the wires?
If that’s the speed these guys are going, then the bar is not that high…too bad this competition is voluntary and often the best electricians just don’t want to bother this
Where does this competition take place?
Different places each year. Last year it was in Nashville, this year it was in Tampa.
@@SparkyChannel it's interesting to see what level of detail they go,,, this is only my opinion but this younge man could of used a fex more staples on his wiring he had time to do so,, in your pro video you can see the young lady apprentice had done so,, none the less interesting to watch thanks for sharing this with us
@@tannerbushey9196 That was Emma. She was really good. I wish that I would have had a camera on all of her performance. She did advance to the finals, and she deserved it too. I was filming Greg, the pro, but she did appear in the video now and then. Perhaps I'll make a video on staples. It seems to be an area of interest.
Where'd he get those cargo pants from. 😂 they look comfortable
19:28 They're obviously uniform ... everyone in the competition is wearing them. The shirts are from Duluth Trading Company, so maybe the pants are too? *Probably* all provided by ideal just like the tools and Tool belts...
@@binaryglitch64 thanks!
@@enriqueestevez2365 Hakuna
The pants are made by Duluth Trading Company.
@@SparkyChannel THANKS!
Вот после твких соревнований, дома и горят...
My local apprentice program competition was way harder than this, and this is the national competition?
Yes, see my video description for how to enter.
Got any Footage of your competition?
@@yessir640 nope, don't have any footage. I was busy working lol
as a 5th year i can tell you that i would have drilled out my holes in such a way that the only staple i would need would be the one going into the light.
Excellent!
What other improvements would you have made, as a Fifth year?
Code where I'm from calls for a staple within 6 in of every box.
@@garyszewc3339holes count as a staple.
That’s crazy the guy who won didn’t even bother running his wires neat lol I would of did that whole project in 15 mins and it would of looked way nicer not to hate just makes me wanna enter this competition! 1st year
I understand. It's important to have confidence.
To enter next year's competition and take your shot at winning some of $600,000 in cash and prizes: www.idealind.com/us/en.html?cid=pao56:cmn2018:mdm51:bzn20:uco08
Enter the competition and Get smoked
Even for apprentices these guys are pretty slow tbh . Doing electrical Roughs aren't as hard to learn as you think and there are so may faster methods and techniques to accessing your bits and tools way easier.
Thanks for sharing.
@@SparkyChannel Anytime 🥰
I thought he was pretty efficient.
Better tool belt would have saved him so much time lbs
I need to get myself a work visa and emigrate because the American standards are so much easier than British standards hahah
That's what I'm told.
You don’t give these guys impact screw drivers? He makes my wrist hurt
The screw guns were provided by the Flex tool company. They were not impact drivers.
💯👍👍
Thanks Theo!
Why y'all don't have the Bahamas in this contest USA vs Bahamas that will be interesting unless USA afraid of getting alil beat down from the Bahamas in the electrical champion ship
Cheers from San Diego!
Too bad they don't have this competition for journeyman and masters......I would destroy these times
You in the Majors. Why you trying to play in triple A?
There is a pro division also. See my video description for how to enter.
I saw that he forgot to install nail plates where he drilled the studs for the wires as per code.
You don't need them if the edge of the hole is 1-1/4" from the edge of the stud.
Happy Thanksgiving!
@@SparkyChannel Happy Thanksgiving, Bill! Hope you enjoy, and hope you had a blast at the Ideal National Championship.
That wiring should not take that long
Thanks!
He'd be faster if he threw that hammer away.
Needs some Klein Linesmans… 🤣
Es muy lento yo lo hago mucho mas rápido 😂!
I would of smoked him pull multiple home runs at same time why would you run wire then go back to the boxes a 2nd time to staple im gonna show my boss for a raise
Cheers!
He’s an apprentice Lard ass
Romex should be illegal to use. Such a dangerous option and fire hazard. I would get fired for even saying romex here in Chicago. Would be gone before half the word was out of my mouth
Lol another ignorant basement dwelling "electrician" 😂🤦♂️
@@OUTDOORS55 I'm not being ignorant. It's just truth.
@@OUTDOORS55exactly what I was thinking lmfao 🤣
I understand. The codes are much stricter in Chicago.
What are you talking about “ fire hazard” 💀