We used to make these when I was in the army in South Africa back in the '70s. It consisted of two razor blades (the old style double sided type), some cotton thread or fishing line, 9 match sticks and some lamp flex. You space the blades apart with the match sticks and line and connect the lamp flex. It would boil an average cup of water in a minute. The tea or coffee did however have a slight metallic taste, even though the blades were allegedly stainless steel. We knew what we were doing and it worked great for a couple of weeks, until the platoon thickhead came along with his metal fire bucket (military term for tin mug), plonked it down on the metal table and dropped our heater into it. When he switched it on there was a big flash bang and all the lights in B company went out. Torch light showed water all over the walls, ceiling and table, added to that the bucket was spot welded to the table. Unfortunately the problem was traced back to us, we had our immersion boiler confiscated and stood guard duty for two weeks straight.
You could use it to "prove" your tapwater appears deadly unclean, so you absolutely must spend thousands on reverse osmosis water filters which will save you from rust :P
Yeah, pretty much what I thought. The Chinese have apparently made many innovations in torture since the days of dripping water on someone's head until they go insane or shoving bamboo under someone's fingernails.
mikeselectricstuff In centrepoint earthed networks, a 3-phase one would leave the water at near zero voltage, assuming all 3 electrodes in the same poker. (Same thing with these ones in a US 220V socket). But in a pure triangle network with 220V between phases and no certainty about which is grounded by accident (like in rural Norway), plugging this into a regular socket would randomly provide no voltage, 110V water or 190V water. If it starts at no voltage, it will change the moment someone in another house plugs in theirs in a different phase pair. Really exciting. Sorry about the necroposting.
I am Chinese and this is a very common thing in my college time back in the late 90s and early 2000... we didn't have 24 hour hot water at that time. we use it to heat large amount of water to wash things ...never drink it.
at 11:30 i'm pretty sure those bubbles are actually from the water getting electrolyzed and the molecule of H2O (L) splitting into H2 (g) and O2 (g). I am also fairly certain that stainless still would dissolve over time but more importantly the trace metals like chromium in stainless steel can become dissolved and will be toxic.
I was thinking exactly the same, no way I'd be drinking that water. It'd be interesting if big clive could get the water analyzed before and after to see whats there.
Electrolytic decomposition is not very efficient; after a minute or two they all turn into kettles. Even when you do manage to split hydrogen and oxygen, the odds are, 90% of what you're causing is merely steam. If you want to split hydrogen and oxygen efficiently, you need to first boil the water up to about 700-800 degrees celsius (pressurised steam if you will; this is thousands fahrenheit) ... and then pass a low voltage, high current through it. That's what's done commercially, and fwiw you can't do it with a car (at least, not unless you also have a nuclear reactor strapped to your car, which probably means you don't need the hydrogen boost lol)...
@@sebastianramadan8393 yeah you can definitely make the process more efficient but I know it's pretty easy to do it at STP so I'd suspect that this would be more then enough for the reaction to take place (seeing as I've done very half assed with a power supply from a computer), not enough to do anything commercially but I'd be surprised if you didn't find some trace metals from it
This reminds me of my job in the test lab of a CRT factory c1998. One of the many tests I had to do was to hold the anode of a 17" crt over a boiling kettle (insulation tape kept the switch in the on position) wait until we had a good amount of condensation then connect the graphite to ground and connect the annode to a "spellman HV amplifier", then slowly turn it up. at upwards of 15kv you would get some fantastic and beautiful "stray" tiny bits of blue lightning searching and seeking a route to ground. At around 30-35kv you would then get a nice big "KKRRAACKK" as it would then ark the inch or so between the graphite and annode giving you your annode insulation test result. Those lovely koreans gave me a metal table with an antistatic mat to do this on too.
Another thing of concern is the fact that its from China and plastic and going in your drink...China is still guilty of using lead to soften plastics...heating it would make it worse than normal.
+Mark Warbington I'm more concerned about the beard. It always looks much more dramatic than mere eyebrows after incidents involving combustible gasses and fumes.
+mikeselectricstuff Now it's AC current, so will electrolysis even happen before the hydrogen and oxygen immediately recombine into water? I'm not so sure??
The Vick steam humidifier I bought from Canadian Tire uses the same principle, the manual even tells you to put in small amounts of salt if the device does not work...
As someone who was apprenticed to an electrician and has a rudimentary knowledge of electricity and wiring and whatnot, that thing absolutely terrifies me. The table vibrating literally sent chills up and down my spine.
+gamerpaddy While not traditional electrolysis many cells do operate on AC in order to get mixed H2 and O2 gasses. It all depends on getting the current, frequency, and electrolyte correct such that the bubbles are ripped off the electrode by the ferocity of the ac phase. That way the bubble is not annihilated by the opposite phase.
+frollard Exactly. In this case the frequency is wrong. According to Wikipedia, 99.9% of the energy goes into heating the water. In this kind of AC environment, the H+ and OH- ions get separated, then pushed right back towards each other on the reverse part of the cycle, so very little, if any, water gets elecrolysed. In addition, any oxides on the electrodes would very likely act as catalysts to recombine any gas that does form, just like in a fuel cell. Here is a paper explaining how AC electrolysis can work: www.iosrjen.org/Papers/vol3_issue8%20(part-2)/I03825259.pdf It is all rather complicated, and I would certainly not feel safe using such a product since I have no confidence that the manufacturer has done anything to understand the issues involved.
+seth094978 I would argue that you induce the same amount of electrolysis at 220v DC as 220v rms AC at 50hz; nothing more or less will happen until you increase the frequency to hundreds of kilohertz. The only difference is that both gasses will get generated at each electrode through a complete AC cycle (but not at the same time). Slow frequency AC electrolysis is just DC electrolysis with the direction switching; phase isn't relevant at low sinus frequencies. Somewhere at hundreds of kilohertz, if you mix two specific differing frequencies, you can additionally make the H2 pair split using the same amount of energy, but you can generate significantly more energy with true HHO gas compared to a H2 and O mix from regular electrolysis. The oxides wont make the freed gas return to water.
This reminds me of an old product called a "Hot Dogger" that cooked hot dogs by placing them on prongs at each end that were connected to 120 volt line/mains voltage.
@@Sypaka 111 / 5000 Übersetzungsergebnisse Electricians on construction sites also use this trick in Germany, hot sausages in an even shorter time with 230V
I had to confiscate a pair of blackened forks someone at the makerspace had welded to a plug in in a misguided attempt to make their own hot dogger. It had tripped the breaker on more than one occasion
Could you possibly expose that "self cleaning" foam to a match and speculate on whether or not that really is water vapor or perhaps electrolysis products?
These things have been around in the U.S. for at least 40 years (although I'm not sure if they're still sold). Before there was sanity you could buy one in a Woolworths, cheap. It's called an immersion heater and if the exposed end was out of water it could explode. It even said this on the package. You put it in water (or coffee) *before* plugging it in, and you unplug it before removing it from liquid.
"Hey Chad" "Yeah?" "What's these power spikes into the kW?" "I don't know, but it looks to be coming from a single house" "Should we investigate?" "Nah."
@@nuckingfuts27 Yeah mate, arse end, for now anyway. Actually born a Kiwi, turned Aussie by way of Orpington, Kent. Long story. Hope to get back to the old country one of these precious few, you folks have still got some proper pubs with good old grub and music and all, is what I hear. Peace. ;)
Here in the States, we had hotdog cookers that were powered directly from the mains. However it had an interlock device so that the user was protected from any contact, unlike your tea warmer. In fact, the hotdogger cooked the hotdog in under 2 minutes.
When we were kids we had a Gerber brand humidifier from the late 70's. No on or off switch. It was all plastic and probably held a gallon of water. When I was 12 or about 13 or so I found it in the basement and remembered what it was. I remember ad it made steam it would spit out hot splashed of water. I heard rattling in the part that went into the tank, so ofcourse unplugged I unscrewed the bottom orange plastic cover with holes for water to enter, and I saw 2 metal electrodes with the electrical cord screwed on by square clamps. Nonetheless I was surprised it wasn't so safe and didn't have a ground on the plug, nor was it polarized, not that it I guess matters. Especially since it was a Gerber brand I thought it would be safer. The rattling was just calcium. The instructions also said to add a tsp of salt or baking soda to the water for it to create steam faster, so I added 2 tsp to speed things up, plugged it in and heard a buzz. I got scared unplugged it and out into the garbage it went. Lol
I've tried reporting dangerous items to ebay on several occasions - including a picture of bare wires being put into a mains socket! Ebay are not interested, never did anything and when I posted on the forum, actually removed my posts! Well done ebay for promoting and selling dangerous and deadly items.
+BloodySword Does not matter where u are, when its cheap and from ebay you can not expect good things in most cases. Qualitiy comes with a price, this does apply everwhere. And not everything is four times the price here.
My father (who was an engineer, *of course*) had one of those 'ordinary' mug boilers you showed at the beginning, which was basically a kettle element with a playfully tiny insulated handle to hook over the rim of your mug. Because he was too damn busy engineering stuff to bother with any of that long-winded kettle and teapot shit. The amazing thing is that when he got this some 25 years ago Ebay hadn't been invented; he actually found it for sale in a shop somewhere in Europe (presumably owned by a guy with frizzy hair and a smell of static). I don't know which is crazier - the fact it was for sale in an actual shop or the fact that he bought it. Anyway, Dad's long gone now - neither due to the mug boiler or his engineering abilities, I'm proud to say - but it's still in one of our kitchen cupboards. I guess we just hung onto it in case one of us ever felt suicidal and wanted the whole village to know about it. You're welcome to have it if you want :)
I have one in now from China, the Land of Electrical Delights, and I must say it is an economic way to boil water, and then make coffee, the "and then" should be noted, it can't handle coffee or anything added to the water. I run it on a bench isolation transformer, and RCD and purely into a plastic container, it boils faster than any kettle and at 1/4, or better, the power. The water here is from chalk aquifers, in north Kent the water is rated as slightly hard. It draws about 600 watts overall. I would not recommend using glass containers the quick boil heats the glass sides, leaving the bottom cold, and the glass can stress shatter, leaving a live device in a pool of water......I tried it and it did! I think the CE on the pack means in this case Chinese Electrocution.......
I laughed like a maniac when the meter spiked all the way to 1kW. Like seriously what are they thinking? This is certainly producing hydrogen as well, that's the "steam" you see as soon as it's plugged. Imagine if you want to have a smoke with your tea or coffee, and then light one up while standing above that boiling cup? Absolutely disastrous.
@Danny Blue No. FYI, Hydrogen is technically rocket fuel. The reason the flame would go out if it were exposed to a container of pure Hydrogen is because combustion requires the presence of Oxygen. That is not what we have here. Here we have BOTH Oxygen and Hydrogen being produced by the reaction *plus* the atmospheric Oxygen available as the Hydrogen disperses.
Danny Blue in that case I suggest you go and subscribe yourself to Scott Manley and have a flick through his videos. Enjoy your soon-to-be newfound love of rocket science :)
+thechosendude Yes, the soup is perfect, this heater it is quite logical to use for heating soup, and the soup is quite salty. So it would be interesting to see what would happen if an ordinary person would buy this heater and want to warm up soup or other salty liquid.
nagi603 Ya .. then you just gotta do what Photonicinduction does! Put it on a big breaker! Actually, I think Clive should send this to Photon, for some extreme torture! :DDD
I really wish that you would put the links up on where to buy these things. I have several people that I would just love to give these to as free gifts. Starting with appreciation gifts to local politicians.
In the past I've seen this concept in an industrial humidifier with three phase 400 volts. But that was in a fully encased enclosure which was locked. This gadget however... I'm really not sure it's CE certified. I'd rather stay as far away from it as possible.
Hi Clive love the channel very interesting, Many years ago I had an electrical shop and a customer came back from Spain with a coffee pot that had 2 brass bolts with two wire from the lid down inside and on the bottom was a element that went into the water on the lid was two wires to the mains 230v so I removed the leads and told her how dangerous it was !!!
+THE VERY BEST OF TH-cam Come on now, both Photonic and Clive are both in real life professional electrical and trained, they both have differences in approach to what they do. Clive goes way back, he invented the Joule Thief circuit.
+cjmillsnun This is much more dangerous as it is passing current through the medium you are heating. Potentially DEADLY. Photonicinduction's 10 second Kettle was just a regular Electric kettle which was driven at three times its max. power rating until it popped.
+TheUnnamedGent Ye, hydrogen and oxygen, if you are lucky. If you are boiling water with sodium chloride (Table salt), in it, you will be producing hydrogen and chlorine gas (used as a chemical weapon during ww I)! Electrocution, flameable gasses, and chemical weapon, all in one present from china! No wonder Clive is excited! :D
+Lavikka Photography I wondered if there would be some electrolysis too. That could do "interesting" things to the chemical composition of any dissolved minerals.
+Lavikka Photography according to Wikipedia, 99.9% of the energy goes into heating the water. I have studied some electrochemistry and electrolysis requires a DC potential to consistently separate the ions formed. In this kind of AC environment, the H+ and OH- ions get separated, then pushed right back towards each other on the reverse part of the cycle, so very little, if any, water gets elecrolysed. In addition, any oxides on the electrodes would very likely act as catalysts to recombine any gas that does form, just like in a fuel cell.
That's what I'm talking about. The water there is very soft but add it to tea or coffee. Those bubbles coming off.... Put a lid on it will a small hole and see if it explodes with a little flame. Hmmm.
+Lavikka Photography Sorry If my explanation was not clear. In short, mains AC current running through water will NOT form any hydrogen or oxygen. That ONLY happens with DC.
Here in Argentina, a company sells something like that, but a little bigger, like a small shoe box, to evaporate the water coming out of home air conditioners. Does the job pretty well and you can see the steam coming out of it when it gets water.
Yep, two bits of bed spring and a twin-blade disposable razor, maybe a tiny pinch of salt for speeding the process along and your good to go, so I'm told.
"Marvellously deadly device." Love the way you said that - it reminded me of the old Ronco & K-Tel adverts (usually for tat that never worked, or really shite LP's), that used to appear on the telly as christmas approached.
About 30 years ago I bought an all plastic light weight travel steam iron / smoother fro John Lewis in London West End. It was being demonstrated by one of those in store product demonstrators. I still have it and it is brilliant. As it has no element you add a small pinch of table salt and about 1 shot glass of tap water and it start to hum when plugged into the mains. A minute later it is producing enough steam to smooth the travel creases from a crumpled garment. Probablt same principle I should think.
It will absolutely work, we used a very similar device made out of nail clippers, a toothbrush, rubber gloves, and an old extension cord or really any two wires that can be stuck into an outlet to heat water in jail. Though we would also add ramen noodle seasoning and/or laundry detergent to the water, I'm assuming the sodium in the seasoning and the chlorine in the detergent allow more current to pass through the water. It only has two electrodes vs the at least 6 on this consumer style model (obviously ours looked nothing like this and almost always ran on really thin gauge wire, which I believe reduces the amount of current that can possibly come through) and it would take about ten minutes to boil water inside an old fluff container (1 lb container) and that would then boil water we had inside of a sealed rice bag (the ramen noodle seasoning/laundry detergent water is pretty nasty, especially after electricity is run through via scavenged metal, so we always used a double boiler set up). Thing was dangerous as fuck, it's called a stinger because of the 60hz (or 120, I think 120 actually) "stinging" noise that it makes when plugged in and immersed in water.
@ Yeah, sure: th-cam.com/video/q2r0GMVAWyI/w-d-xo.html This uses razor blades and toothpicks instead of nail clippers and toothbrush plastic for the obvious reasons of no one is giving you an unaccounted for razor blade in prison. Also, you are misunderstanding what is actually happening, imagine an empty container of marshmallow fluff, now you fill it with water, add pretty much any chemical that lowers the resistance of the water (powdered laundry detergent occasionally but most commonlyramen noodle seasoning because it's so abundant and salty), dip in the stinger, and let it start to boil. In the meantime, you take an airtight plastic pouch (or another smaller container), which are in abundance as many commissary items like rice come in them, and you put your ingredients inside the pouch, seal it, and then insert it into the boiling container of marshmallow fluff for however long it needs to be boiled for. You are effectively double boiling it, so the food never comes into contact with the conducting water. You could use just clean water if you wanted to, there was more than enough shit in the pipes that came through that would probably conduct decently well, it's just way slower and where I was a CO came by every ~15-30 minutes and looked through our cell door window. You could try to hide it when your cellmate tells you they're coming but it's not worth the risk and they can usually smell it, so getting the water boiling in 30 seconds and the food cooked in less than 5 minutes was definitely the way to go.
Clive. I've watched all of your videos and learned a lot as a budding hobbyists in electrics. But this video as had me in hysterics, particular the last few seconds. Just reminds me of us men with a big boys toy.
Ty for this 'review'! (I was looking for cheap electrodes for low voltage electrolysis, I hope it's stainless steel) One I bought has the funniest and boldest description in the world ;) : 'Features: 1, Microwave special materials, non-toxic, odorless, In 100-degree water, it also does not decompose, not aging, not discoloration, deformation. 2, Due to the magnetic wave action during the heating, after water absorb electromagnetic energy, moisture occurs bizarre oscillation , collision, and after friction, the water rising temperatures 3, Through special panels put chlorine converted into hypochlorite, play a role in disinfection and sterilization.'
actually anything above .2 amps will kill you if you arent attended to immediately and also voltage wont kill you if there is enough amperage any measure of voltage will kill you
+Tim Boxall Technically speaking my body became live at 120V, but as I was completely isolated from any return path to ground I did not pass much current. If I had touched something grounded simultaneously I would have received a significant shock.
+RAFPony I was standing on wood plus carpet plus rubber soled footwear (crocs) so there was no easy route for the electricity to flow back to the general mass of earth or associated metalwork. But current will flow in any path it can find, so that should never be done routinely. A very small current did flow when I touched the spoon, but just tens of microamps.
Brilliant! Throwing caution to the wind, I couldn't help looking one up myself and found the listed features hilarious.Features: 1. Microwave special materials, non-toxic, odorless, In 100-degree water, it also does not decompose, not aging, not discoloration, deformation. 2. Due to the magnetic wave action during the heating, after water absorb electromagnetic energy, moisture occurs bizarre oscillation , collision, and after friction, the water rising temperatures 3. Through special panels put chlorine converted into hypochlorite, play a role in disinfection and sterilization.
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In other words: This is an excellent gift to someone you hate immensely. And its way cheaper than hiring an assassin. Bought!
+Timothy Sherratt All the way to the "aww... I pop'd it". Unless "flamesss!" :) But yeah, definitely pass it to photon, please Clive! Also would be epic to see two of you having fun with HV (one can hope, right?)
+BillyNoMates1974 I'm not sure if even Photonic could pop this one. It kinda self clears the water out depending on power and can only reach the temperature the water boils at by default. He'd need to use high voltage on it.
I don't get it. How come you have not been electrocuted when inserting the spoon? Isn't that thing just basically a wire that goes from your power outlet straight into the water, which then, closing the circuit, heats up? Thx, great video as always btw ^^
+mcrsit He's isolated from earth, I'm guessing by rubber soles on his shoes. The device has two electrodes inside it, one connected to live, the other to neutral, so the circuit is "mostly" completed by the water inside the plastic shell.
+igotes It's a bit more complicated than that. The water between the electrodes forms a potential divider and the rough centre tap of that is connected to by a higher resistance path of water. I'd still potentially get a major full-on mains shock if I touched any grounded surface.
I would definitely _not_ recommend these for making proper cups of tea. The key to making a good cup of tea is bringing the water to its boiling point slowly and maintaining that temperature while you expose the leaves to it. As an Englishman, this is something that is *very important* to me.
Dangerous in more than one way - that wasn't steam coming off when you first put it in, that was the electrodes forming oxygen and hydrogen. Try that self cleaning routine at the end again, but try lighting the bubbles in fire.
Übersetzungstypen Textübersetzung Ausgangstext 哦晒色 Such a type of water system existed as a water heater in the 1950s as an attachment to a normal tap. This was a small shower that had 2 electrode rings inside. The rear ring was electrically connected to the tap through the hose with which this device was attached to the tap, the front electrode was connected to a single-core cable behind the plastic shower strainer, There was a banana plug that was plugged into the live socket of the nearest power outlet. As long as the tap was closed, the flow of electricity was interrupted, but as soon as the tap was opened, the flow of electricity through the water was closed, and that water warmed up. If you shut off the water supply, the rest of the shower boiled out, which interrupted the flow of electricity again. The part was extremely life-threatening, however, since deposits of lime and salts could make the shower slightly conductive. If you touched it when opening the tap, or even tried to change the direction of the shower, you could get a fatal blow, which is why these devices were then used also prohibited. Nevertheless, you could find them in apartments for a long time.
It's overcomplicated. Google: "Buzała" The plug, wire, few matches and the two razors are perfectly enough. Another variation can be used in case your hot water boiler failure and you are desperate to have a bath: just swap razors with hacksaw blades. You will need a second person to help with the RCD, but hey ho.. ;-)
Domestic water supplies typically have quite a bit of air dissolved in it. (If it didn't, there'd be an awful lot more dead goldfish.) Often, it is added by the supplier (aeration) before sending it into the mains. Normally, gas solubility varies inversely proportionally to temperature, and is the case with water, nitrogen, and oxygen. So that is what you see when the water is first heated, the air coming out of solution as tiny bubbles. If you open a hot water tap and fill a glass, you'll notice after a very short while the water is momentarily cloudy, and for the same reason, it is air coming out of solution more easily than if it were cold.
Someone mentioned you on another video, saying that you should do a video on handheld water heaters. Little did we know, you beat us by making the video 6 years ago! 🤣 Oh yeah, the heaters they were referring to was not covered in plastic. The heating element was completely exposed. You're supposed to put the element in the water first before turning it on. For most models, that means you just stick it in the water before you plug it in since they don't have switches. Turn off by unplugging. I love that you love this device! Watching you play with it at the end gave me a good laugh 💀💀💀
I love how shocking this is to westerners (no pun intended). Chinese tech like this is a throwback to when people were trusted to have a modicum of common sense. I'd use it.
An understanding of electricity is not common sense. Unless the instructions make it explicitly clear the dangers of electric shock. I can see anyone assuming it's safe.
Simon WoodburyForget tl; dr:I have some anecdotal experiences about this sbject. *thinks* I don't think I have run in to any device that plugs into mains that doesn't have an electric shock warning in regards to water. Even heaters that use heating elelments. Even still I had an experience were the sink was shorted with mains (us) and I kept sticking my hand in it trying to unplug the dish water. It felt really hot, not so much shocking, so I thought it was just too hot if I moved fast enough I could unplug it. Eventually I noticed the CRT TV that we had sitting on the kitchen bar had a short in the wire that contacted a small puddle leading to the sink. Though I'm sure this isn't the only reason, I was standing on a rubberish matte, the only thing effected was my hand. I can remember lots of videos from countries with poor electric infrastuctures, and education were people thought it was safe to touch a fallen primary with a stick or something. They were unaware that with enough voltage any insulator can be overcome. Remember the louie the lightning bug? Thouh you might not have seen those psa(s). They wouldn't have been necessary if it was common knowledge. I also remember when I was a toddler(3~4) I used to stick things in the socket, electricity always fascinated me. One time I stuck a hanger in the socket, I remember it arching like a tesla coil. Pretty sure I got knocked out or something and imagined that part. I ran down stairs after falling backwards. All the lights were flickering. I remember my mom commenting about the flickering lights. I shyly said, "I stuck a hanger in the socket." Suffice to say I got in big trouble. There was another instance were I got shocked badly messing with the electronics in a TV. There was a part that sparked whenever you turned the TV on. I wanted to touch it. I was blissfully unware about the very real possibility of death. Haha. Hope you enjoyed my stories. I enjoyed remembering them. Anyways an understanding of electricity is not common knowledge. We know it's dangerous beyond that *shrugs*. I'm an electrical engineering intern now so I'm a lot more knowledgable.
Clive! Could you do a video explaining the theory behind some of the ideas/concepts in this video? I find your videos very interesting and you seem to be a very intelligent fellow - but as a lay person as far as electronics are concerned I find some videos very hard to follow!
Actually it is heated dyhydrogenoxide no one is going to survive h2o contamination that forever... And the hydrogen is going to take the oxygen out of air...
Funny how people who are wrong will shout louder... Anyway, I'm not going to give you the answer, because then you don't learn anything. I'll say that the 2H2O -> 2H2 + O2 is only a summation of the process that actually happens and that tmkoeln isn't correct either but closer to the truth. And I do realise that I sound like a smug asshole, but than I don't give a fuck.
My maths teacher from secondary school was in the Tank Corps in WWII. They were billeted to a camp where no equipment had arrived, in the way of cooking. They heated water in a galvanised bucket by connecting it to one side of the mains, and connecting a metal rod to the other side and plunging it into the water.
I made something like this about 20 years ago. It used two stainless steel forks, which I jammed into the ends of the sausage I wanted to cook. The electricity was produced by my home made exer-cycle. After about 2 minutes of energetic pedaling, dinner was ready. Very safe indeed ;) .
Part of the swirly stuff that you showed is just due to the temperature difference between the different parts of the water. At different temperatures it refracts the light sligthly differently or something, I think there's a name for this effect that I can't think of right now. It's probably steam as well though. You can reproduce the effect by pouring some hot water into cold water. It'll look somewhat swirly.
the initial bubbles are electrolysis and is creating hydrogen gas which is flammable. If it's stainless then electrolysis is uncontrolled because of nickel and iron being contained in each electrode.
I have great neighbours but I feel my flat would be even nicer if Big Clive would come live in our building. How do you like south-western France villages Big Clive?
Clive, I wouldn't even drink that water afterwards as due to the electrolysis, ionized metal particles separate the electrodes and get dissolved in the water that might be toxic. Do you have a TDS meter handy? If so, check the TDS before and after boiling on the same temperature. Distilled water would be ideal.
If you trink your coffee while that boiler is in it, it wakes you up 100 times faster than normal coffee.
+Lukas Graphen Unfortunately the effects are; brief, to say the least.
lmao
Lukas Graphen HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHHA LOVE IT
Damn I need to get one ASAP LMAO
but u sleep almost immediately after that
May even forever
We used to make these when I was in the army in South Africa back in the '70s. It consisted of two razor blades (the old style double sided type), some cotton thread or fishing line, 9 match sticks and some lamp flex. You space the blades apart with the match sticks and line and connect the lamp flex. It would boil an average cup of water in a minute. The tea or coffee did however have a slight metallic taste, even though the blades were allegedly stainless steel. We knew what we were doing and it worked great for a couple of weeks, until the platoon thickhead came along with his metal fire bucket (military term for tin mug), plonked it down on the metal table and dropped our heater into it. When he switched it on there was a big flash bang and all the lights in B company went out. Torch light showed water all over the walls, ceiling and table, added to that the bucket was spot welded to the table. Unfortunately the problem was traced back to us, we had our immersion boiler confiscated and stood guard duty for two weeks straight.
Lmao
what a story,youtube at its finest.
Thanks for sharing, laughed my arse off
Biggerbadwolf What is truly amazing is that you're still alive to tell us.
nice to see a fellow South African
"This is really dangerous...
...so I bought two!" Clive 2016
+Lord Sandwich I ended up buying a whole load of different ones.
Dangerous, but not risky.
I did buy one, all it did was make the water turn brown and have weird flaky bits appear in the water.
+Larry Bundy Jr So I assume you drank it :D
Larry Bundy Jr
Did it remove toxins from your body?
Electrolysis
My word, what’re you doing here?
You could use it to "prove" your tapwater appears deadly unclean, so you absolutely must spend thousands on reverse osmosis water filters which will save you from rust :P
Ah yes, the classic Chinese Tampon of Death. A true marvel of technology.
@Josh G I thought it was the infamous Chinese Anal Probe Of Death...........
I mean... If you're brave enough...@
I bet you have had a good time though
@ _hole warmer_
Yeah, pretty much what I thought. The Chinese have apparently made many innovations in torture since the days of dripping water on someone's head until they go insane or shoving bamboo under someone's fingernails.
I want a 3-phase version!
+mikeselectricstuff I'm beginning to think you're a masochist. XD
No probs. Just buy three and add a couple of cable ties. (I bet you bought one!)
+mikeselectricstuff Yeh 3 phase 750v~ insta boil!
mikeselectricstuff In centrepoint earthed networks, a 3-phase one would leave the water at near zero voltage, assuming all 3 electrodes in the same poker. (Same thing with these ones in a US 220V socket). But in a pure triangle network with 220V between phases and no certainty about which is grounded by accident (like in rural Norway), plugging this into a regular socket would randomly provide no voltage, 110V water or 190V water. If it starts at no voltage, it will change the moment someone in another house plugs in theirs in a different phase pair. Really exciting. Sorry about the necroposting.
Do you want your tea to boil, or explode?
I am Chinese and this is a very common thing in my college time back in the late 90s and early 2000...
we didn't have 24 hour hot water at that time. we use it to heat large amount of water to wash things ...never drink it.
The point is, you're "electrocuted" if you touch the water. That's insane.
@@Eeda01 so don't touch the water
@@lauratiso Duh
@@lauratiso the voice of reason.
@@jakehughes1369, I said it more as a joke, but I remembered I live in Brazil and I use a suicide shower every day, twice per day during the summer.
hole warmer mk2?
+jusb1066 The mere thought makes me cringe
Guantanamo bay edition
+jusb1066 Ultimate 2016 0.5KW Edition
+dgedi78 also seems to be my most popular comment of all time! lol
+jusb1066 I think you might be violently reminded what 230V feels like in your bum if you try that...
at 11:30 i'm pretty sure those bubbles are actually from the water getting electrolyzed and the molecule of H2O (L) splitting into H2 (g) and O2 (g). I am also fairly certain that stainless still would dissolve over time but more importantly the trace metals like chromium in stainless steel can become dissolved and will be toxic.
I was thinking exactly the same, no way I'd be drinking that water. It'd be interesting if big clive could get the water analyzed before and after to see whats there.
@@SuprSi yeah I would love to see what's actually in the water after its been heated up.
Electrolytic decomposition is not very efficient; after a minute or two they all turn into kettles. Even when you do manage to split hydrogen and oxygen, the odds are, 90% of what you're causing is merely steam. If you want to split hydrogen and oxygen efficiently, you need to first boil the water up to about 700-800 degrees celsius (pressurised steam if you will; this is thousands fahrenheit) ... and then pass a low voltage, high current through it. That's what's done commercially, and fwiw you can't do it with a car (at least, not unless you also have a nuclear reactor strapped to your car, which probably means you don't need the hydrogen boost lol)...
@@sebastianramadan8393 yeah you can definitely make the process more efficient but I know it's pretty easy to do it at STP so I'd suspect that this would be more then enough for the reaction to take place (seeing as I've done very half assed with a power supply from a computer), not enough to do anything commercially but I'd be surprised if you didn't find some trace metals from it
@Soggy Tangent But I thought that electrolysis cannot happen on alternating current. Maybe it has to be higher frequency or something.
Boy that tampon has a weird looking string...
This reminds me of my job in the test lab of a CRT factory c1998. One of the many tests I had to do was to hold the anode of a 17" crt over a boiling kettle (insulation tape kept the switch in the on position) wait until we had a good amount of condensation then connect the graphite to ground and connect the annode to a "spellman HV amplifier", then slowly turn it up. at upwards of 15kv you would get some fantastic and beautiful "stray" tiny bits of blue lightning searching and seeking a route to ground. At around 30-35kv you would then get a nice big "KKRRAACKK" as it would then ark the inch or so between the graphite and annode giving you your annode insulation test result. Those lovely koreans gave me a metal table with an antistatic mat to do this on too.
7:25 "The table is now vibrating at 50Hz" is, I think the best quote from this video.
I think I can just save $3 by just putting a live wire and a neutral wire in my tea, thanks
you're gonna poison yourself cause of the copper wires i think
@@peters.9371 He would save a fortune then
That will definitely poison you cause it changes the chemical formula
Definitely increase your inductance. Or decrease your resistance
wow.. i just bought one of these to use whilst travelling... in a metal cup. You have probably saved my life. No joke.
Another thing of concern is the fact that its from China and plastic and going in your drink...China is still guilty of using lead to soften plastics...heating it would make it worse than normal.
+PietjePuk
You do know that most of the shit you use is made in China, right?
Bah! A bit of lead never hurt anyone 😉
+PietjePuk
And on component level?
+PietjePuk
All made in China, poppet.
I'm sure the actual metal particles that are being disassociated into the water are fine right?
Soo yeah, definitely NOT suitable as a aquarium heater.
+PuchMaxi1988 Shows some promise as a fish cooker but!
+PuchMaxi1988 Fish would be fine as no earth to them - the heat is another thing of course!!
+Peter Kay Voltage gradient would be a real bummer for longer fish.
+PuchMaxi1988 Competition, electric eels vs. heater.
+dopiaza2006 What about goldfish? MUST_TRY_IT
I love how you respond to comments after ~6 years!
I use TH-cam studio to see all comments. I try to respond to as many as possible.
Does it give off enough hydrogen & oxygen to ignite?
Did you try putting a match to that foam? (if not, please do!)
+mikeselectricstuff Oh yes! Please do! And wear one of those Doctor Who vintage "are you my mummy?" gas masks so save your lungs and your eyebrows. :)
Strangely enough I was thinking of trying that Not sure it'll produce enough, but only one way to find out.
+Mark Warbington I'm more concerned about the beard. It always looks much more dramatic than mere eyebrows after incidents involving combustible gasses and fumes.
+mikeselectricstuff Now it's AC current, so will electrolysis even happen before the hydrogen and oxygen immediately recombine into water? I'm not so sure??
+Elliott Veares I wondered that and put "AC electrolysis" into a search engine. Interesting way to spend an afternoon...
The Vick steam humidifier I bought from Canadian Tire uses the same principle, the manual even tells you to put in small amounts of salt if the device does not work...
As someone who was apprenticed to an electrician and has a rudimentary knowledge of electricity and wiring and whatnot, that thing absolutely terrifies me.
The table vibrating literally sent chills up and down my spine.
4:00 is that steam or hydrogen/oxygen from electrolysis? (haven't finished video yet)
+frollard Would be interesting to throw in a match and see if it pops.
+frollard electrolsysis only works on DC, then it would also dissolve one of the electrodes.
+gamerpaddy While not traditional electrolysis many cells do operate on AC in order to get mixed H2 and O2 gasses.
It all depends on getting the current, frequency, and electrolyte correct such that the bubbles are ripped off the electrode by the ferocity of the ac phase. That way the bubble is not annihilated by the opposite phase.
+frollard Exactly. In this case the frequency is wrong. According to Wikipedia, 99.9% of the energy goes into heating the water. In this kind of AC environment, the H+ and OH- ions get separated, then pushed right back
towards each other on the reverse part of the cycle, so very little, if any, water gets elecrolysed. In addition, any oxides on the electrodes would very likely act as catalysts to recombine any gas that does form,
just like in a fuel cell.
Here is a paper explaining how AC electrolysis can work: www.iosrjen.org/Papers/vol3_issue8%20(part-2)/I03825259.pdf
It is all rather complicated, and I would certainly not feel safe using such a product since I have no confidence that the manufacturer has done anything to understand the issues involved.
+seth094978 I would argue that you induce the same amount of electrolysis at 220v DC as 220v rms AC at 50hz; nothing more or less will happen until you increase the frequency to hundreds of kilohertz. The only difference is that both gasses will get generated at each electrode through a complete AC cycle (but not at the same time). Slow frequency AC electrolysis is just DC electrolysis with the direction switching; phase isn't relevant at low sinus frequencies. Somewhere at hundreds of kilohertz, if you mix two specific differing frequencies, you can additionally make the H2 pair split using the same amount of energy, but you can generate significantly more energy with true HHO gas compared to a H2 and O mix from regular electrolysis. The oxides wont make the freed gas return to water.
This reminds me of an old product called a "Hot Dogger" that cooked hot dogs by placing them on prongs at each end that were connected to 120 volt line/mains voltage.
you still get them
Surprise surprise, he just made a video about the hot dogger
Holy fuck. Metal electrolyzed sausage, yummy.
@@Sypaka 111 / 5000
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Electricians on construction sites also use this trick in Germany, hot sausages in an even shorter time with 230V
I had to confiscate a pair of blackened forks someone at the makerspace had welded to a plug in in a misguided attempt to make their own hot dogger. It had tripped the breaker on more than one occasion
Could you possibly expose that "self cleaning" foam to a match and speculate on whether or not that really is water vapor or perhaps electrolysis products?
I think this is one of big Clive's best videos. It's so good I'm coming back to watch it 3 years later.
These things have been around in the U.S. for at least 40 years (although I'm not sure if they're still sold). Before there was sanity you could buy one in a Woolworths, cheap. It's called an immersion heater and if the exposed end was out of water it could explode. It even said this on the package. You put it in water (or coffee) *before* plugging it in, and you unplug it before removing it from liquid.
"Hey Chad"
"Yeah?"
"What's these power spikes into the kW?"
"I don't know, but it looks to be coming from a single house"
"Should we investigate?"
"Nah."
Nobody outside the united states is called "Chad"... not even in Chad.
i watched 50 videos in a row and oh my....im actually learning things.....thanks clive
+gogear131 If I didn't know any better, I'd say Clive invented Ohm's law.
The Darwinator.
hahaha
Just laughed a little too hard... may have wee'd a little.
@@nuckingfuts27
2016 comment, but I appreciate your username. 👍
Aussie? Kiwi? Pom?
@@sixstringedthing ha ha yeah a pom .
I take it your down under then ? Lol
@@nuckingfuts27 Yeah mate, arse end, for now anyway. Actually born a Kiwi, turned Aussie by way of Orpington, Kent. Long story. Hope to get back to the old country one of these precious few, you folks have still got some proper pubs with good old grub and music and all, is what I hear.
Peace. ;)
Here in the States, we had hotdog cookers that were powered directly from the mains. However it had an interlock device so that the user was protected from any contact, unlike your tea warmer. In fact, the hotdogger cooked the hotdog in under 2 minutes.
I have a video of a hot dogger on 240V.
When we were kids we had a Gerber brand humidifier from the late 70's. No on or off switch. It was all plastic and probably held a gallon of water. When I was 12 or about 13 or so I found it in the basement and remembered what it was. I remember ad it made steam it would spit out hot splashed of water. I heard rattling in the part that went into the tank, so ofcourse unplugged I unscrewed the bottom orange plastic cover with holes for water to enter, and I saw 2 metal electrodes with the electrical cord screwed on by square clamps. Nonetheless I was surprised it wasn't so safe and didn't have a ground on the plug, nor was it polarized, not that it I guess matters. Especially since it was a Gerber brand I thought it would be safer. The rattling was just calcium. The instructions also said to add a tsp of salt or baking soda to the water for it to create steam faster, so I added 2 tsp to speed things up, plugged it in and heard a buzz. I got scared unplugged it and out into the garbage it went. Lol
"Hey babe, could you add some hot water to my bath? It's getting a wee bit cold."..."OK Sweetie better yet I have this cool gadget..."
I've tried reporting dangerous items to ebay on several occasions - including a picture of bare wires being put into a mains socket! Ebay are not interested, never did anything and when I posted on the forum, actually removed my posts!
Well done ebay for promoting and selling dangerous and deadly items.
eBay is promoting the Darwin Awards
They don't care. They get revenue. That's what's important.
way to ruin the fun for everyone else🗿ur the reason i gotta order stuff like this off amazon and aliexpress now
You can make a cheaper one at home, get a 6 way power board and chop the earth off! :P
+Slot1Gamer Such power boards are ridiculously expensive in Germany. A 3-Way one at least 6 EUR!!
+BloodySword for 6€ u get one with a nice 0,75mm² or maybe 1mm² cable but i would not trust the grounding...
+SchiggyoO Yeah, you must pay a fortune here for these things to have a decent one. WHY? EVERYTHING is at least 4x more expensive here in GER...
+BloodySword Does not matter where u are, when its cheap and from ebay you can not expect good things in most cases. Qualitiy comes with a price, this does apply everwhere. And not everything is four times the price here.
+SchiggyoO I always buy electrical stuff in tool stores, and not cheap. But the same power board cost 25% in other countries than here...
god, i forgot how enamoured you were with this thing.
I bought a few. They are hard to find now.
My father (who was an engineer, *of course*) had one of those 'ordinary' mug boilers you showed at the beginning, which was basically a kettle element with a playfully tiny insulated handle to hook over the rim of your mug. Because he was too damn busy engineering stuff to bother with any of that long-winded kettle and teapot shit.
The amazing thing is that when he got this some 25 years ago Ebay hadn't been invented; he actually found it for sale in a shop somewhere in Europe (presumably owned by a guy with frizzy hair and a smell of static). I don't know which is crazier - the fact it was for sale in an actual shop or the fact that he bought it.
Anyway, Dad's long gone now - neither due to the mug boiler or his engineering abilities, I'm proud to say - but it's still in one of our kitchen cupboards. I guess we just hung onto it in case one of us ever felt suicidal and wanted the whole village to know about it.
You're welcome to have it if you want :)
Try warming canned soup, which has a crazy amount of salt in it.
or up your bum
This plus a new metal mug sounds like a great gift to get my boss!
If the electrodes are stainless steel, could it possibly produce hexavalent chromium for some nice carcinogenic tea?
Our some copper poisoning from the copper wires in the thing electrolizing
hmmm, fortified water. Gotta get your 5 a day metals xD
I have one in now from China, the Land of Electrical Delights, and I must say it is an economic way to boil water, and then make coffee, the "and then" should be noted, it can't handle coffee or anything added to the water. I run it on a bench isolation transformer, and RCD and purely into a plastic container, it boils faster than any kettle and at 1/4, or better, the power. The water here is from chalk aquifers, in north Kent the water is rated as slightly hard. It draws about 600 watts overall.
I would not recommend using glass containers the quick boil heats the glass sides, leaving the bottom cold, and the glass can stress shatter, leaving a live device in a pool of water......I tried it and it did!
I think the CE on the pack means in this case Chinese Electrocution.......
Electrode heaters are still used in industrial steam pots for big HVAC units. We got a couple of them in our serverroom AC's nice beefy 3 phase :)
I laughed like a maniac when the meter spiked all the way to 1kW. Like seriously what are they thinking? This is certainly producing hydrogen as well, that's the "steam" you see as soon as it's plugged. Imagine if you want to have a smoke with your tea or coffee, and then light one up while standing above that boiling cup? Absolutely disastrous.
Icathiann I doubt anything would happen
Yeah it dissapates wuickly
@Danny Blue No. FYI, Hydrogen is technically rocket fuel. The reason the flame would go out if it were exposed to a container of pure Hydrogen is because combustion requires the presence of Oxygen. That is not what we have here. Here we have BOTH Oxygen and Hydrogen being produced by the reaction *plus* the atmospheric Oxygen available as the Hydrogen disperses.
Danny Blue in that case I suggest you go and subscribe yourself to Scott Manley and have a flick through his videos. Enjoy your soon-to-be newfound love of rocket science :)
I miss stuff like this. 2019 Big Clive is much more chilled.
You should try to stick it in really salty water and check power consumption :))
I was thinking this. Like soup, with lots of sodium.
+thechosendude Yes, the soup is perfect, this heater it is quite logical to use for heating soup, and the soup is quite salty. So it would be interesting to see what would happen if an ordinary person would buy this heater and want to warm up soup or other salty liquid.
+zapilimne
OMG YES, I wonder if it will go up to a few kW .. that would result in some violent boiling! XDDD
+Benjamin “Ozias” Esposti With a few kW, it might even trip the circuit breaker.
nagi603
Ya .. then you just gotta do what Photonicinduction does!
Put it on a big breaker!
Actually, I think Clive should send this to Photon, for some extreme torture! :DDD
I really wish that you would put the links up on where to buy these things. I have several people that I would just love to give these to as free gifts. Starting with appreciation gifts to local politicians.
Watching this again in 2022 to brighten my day and I love your enthusiasm here Clive. Do you still have this electrode boiler?
I do. It's a treasured possession.
"I really should unplug this, shouldn't i? It's all vibrating." xD
That's a beautiful HHO converter. I wonder how it works around a lighter
That was tested with detergent to catch the gas in foam, and it was just steam.
In the past I've seen this concept in an industrial humidifier with three phase 400 volts. But that was in a fully encased enclosure which was locked.
This gadget however... I'm really not sure it's CE certified. I'd rather stay as far away from it as possible.
Hi Clive love the channel very interesting, Many years ago I had an electrical shop and a customer came back from Spain with a coffee pot that had 2 brass bolts with two wire from the lid down inside and on the bottom was a element that went into the water on the lid was two wires to the mains 230v so I removed the leads and told her how dangerous it was !!!
THIS CHANNEL IS ABSOLUTE GOLD!
It kind of reminds me of Photonicinduction's kettle.
+cjmillsnun Yep, the 10 second toaster too. He should market those to China, he be rich in seconds!!
+THE VERY BEST OF TH-cam Come on now, both Photonic and Clive are both in real life professional electrical and trained, they both have differences in approach to what they do. Clive goes way back, he invented the Joule Thief circuit.
+cjmillsnun This is much more dangerous as it is passing current through the medium you are heating. Potentially DEADLY. Photonicinduction's 10 second Kettle was just a regular Electric kettle which was driven at three times its max. power rating until it popped.
I'm not arguing with you Erik. Photon's kettle was safe as it was in controlled circumstances. This thing is lethal.
+jusb1066 I'm sure Clive never made the street lights dim!
Does any electrolysis occur? Given that it is AC power, I would have expected both hydrogen and oxygen to collect on both electrodes.
+TheUnnamedGent correct
+TheUnnamedGent An accumulated mix of hydrogen and oxygen. What could go wrong?
+TheUnnamedGent Ye, hydrogen and oxygen, if you are lucky. If you are boiling water with sodium chloride (Table salt), in it, you will be producing hydrogen and chlorine gas (used as a chemical weapon during ww I)!
Electrocution, flameable gasses, and chemical weapon, all in one present from china! No wonder Clive is excited! :D
+TheUnnamedGent ooh yes... put a match to that foam at the end of the video!
+Wuptidoo plus some sodium hydroxide solution. What's not to like?
And... Off gassing hydrogen.
+Lavikka Photography and oxygen.
fuck no fuck this
+Lavikka Photography I wondered if there would be some electrolysis too. That could do "interesting" things to the chemical composition of any dissolved minerals.
+Lavikka Photography according to Wikipedia, 99.9% of the energy goes into heating the water. I have studied some electrochemistry and electrolysis requires a DC potential to consistently separate the ions formed. In this kind of AC environment, the H+ and OH- ions get separated, then pushed right back towards each other on the reverse part of the cycle, so very little, if any, water gets elecrolysed. In addition, any oxides on the electrodes would very likely act as catalysts to recombine any gas that does form, just like in a fuel cell.
That's what I'm talking about. The water there is very soft but add it to tea or coffee. Those bubbles coming off.... Put a lid on it will a small hole and see if it explodes with a little flame. Hmmm.
+Lavikka Photography Sorry If my explanation was not clear. In short, mains AC current running through water will NOT form any hydrogen or oxygen. That ONLY happens with DC.
Here in Argentina, a company sells something like that, but a little bigger, like a small shoe box, to evaporate the water coming out of home air conditioners. Does the job pretty well and you can see the steam coming out of it when it gets water.
"I'll pick this teaspoon out gingerly" From your profile pic that's the only way you could! Loving the vids, keep 'em coming! :)
Standard jail cell kettle there, just in a fancy case.
Absolut.
Yep, two bits of bed spring and a twin-blade disposable razor, maybe a tiny pinch of salt for speeding the process along and your good to go, so I'm told.
I'm glad not to be the only one who sees this.
You telling us not to buy one just made me buy two of the 500w versions. 😊
Yeah. I think a lot of people did that. There's something delightfully appealing about them.
@@bigclivedotcom I've been trying to find a way to kill myself anyway. 😁
Clive, simulate a fault by disconnecting the neutral and try the teaspoon again!
For science!
"Marvellously deadly device." Love the way you said that - it reminded me of the old Ronco & K-Tel adverts (usually for tat that never worked, or really shite LP's), that used to appear on the telly as christmas approached.
About 30 years ago I bought an all plastic light weight travel steam iron / smoother fro John Lewis in London West End. It was being demonstrated by one of those in store product demonstrators. I still have it and it is brilliant. As it has no element you add a small pinch of table salt and about 1 shot glass of tap water and it start to hum when plugged into the mains. A minute later it is producing enough steam to smooth the travel creases from a crumpled garment. Probablt same principle I should think.
And if it is plugged into 120V mains in the states, will it work?
Take longer?
Asking for a friend.
Yes it should work, but would take a lot longer.
It will absolutely work, we used a very similar device made out of nail clippers, a toothbrush, rubber gloves, and an old extension cord or really any two wires that can be stuck into an outlet to heat water in jail. Though we would also add ramen noodle seasoning and/or laundry detergent to the water, I'm assuming the sodium in the seasoning and the chlorine in the detergent allow more current to pass through the water. It only has two electrodes vs the at least 6 on this consumer style model (obviously ours looked nothing like this and almost always ran on really thin gauge wire, which I believe reduces the amount of current that can possibly come through) and it would take about ten minutes to boil water inside an old fluff container (1 lb container) and that would then boil water we had inside of a sealed rice bag (the ramen noodle seasoning/laundry detergent water is pretty nasty, especially after electricity is run through via scavenged metal, so we always used a double boiler set up). Thing was dangerous as fuck, it's called a stinger because of the 60hz (or 120, I think 120 actually) "stinging" noise that it makes when plugged in and immersed in water.
Ita a 120v plug not a 240 this guy is actualy dangerous
@ Yeah, sure:
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This uses razor blades and toothpicks instead of nail clippers and toothbrush plastic for the obvious reasons of no one is giving you an unaccounted for razor blade in prison.
Also, you are misunderstanding what is actually happening, imagine an empty container of marshmallow fluff, now you fill it with water, add pretty much any chemical that lowers the resistance of the water (powdered laundry detergent occasionally but most commonlyramen noodle seasoning because it's so abundant and salty), dip in the stinger, and let it start to boil. In the meantime, you take an airtight plastic pouch (or another smaller container), which are in abundance as many commissary items like rice come in them, and you put your ingredients inside the pouch, seal it, and then insert it into the boiling container of marshmallow fluff for however long it needs to be boiled for. You are effectively double boiling it, so the food never comes into contact with the conducting water.
You could use just clean water if you wanted to, there was more than enough shit in the pipes that came through that would probably conduct decently well, it's just way slower and where I was a CO came by every ~15-30 minutes and looked through our cell door window. You could try to hide it when your cellmate tells you they're coming but it's not worth the risk and they can usually smell it, so getting the water boiling in 30 seconds and the food cooked in less than 5 minutes was definitely the way to go.
That "REALLY?" at 00:43 makes me grin every time.
messing around with it until it hertz xD
Holy shit what gold
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Clive. I've watched all of your videos and learned a lot as a budding hobbyists in electrics. But this video as had me in hysterics, particular the last few seconds. Just reminds me of us men with a big boys toy.
Ty for this 'review'! (I was looking for cheap electrodes for low voltage electrolysis, I hope it's stainless steel)
One I bought has the funniest and boldest description in the world ;) :
'Features:
1, Microwave special materials, non-toxic, odorless, In 100-degree
water, it also does not decompose, not aging, not discoloration,
deformation.
2, Due to the magnetic wave action during the heating, after water
absorb electromagnetic energy, moisture occurs bizarre oscillation ,
collision, and after friction, the water rising temperatures
3, Through special panels put chlorine converted into hypochlorite, play a role in disinfection and sterilization.'
What if you were using a metal cup?
You'd probably be somewhat dead.
only 200w just shock
faizan joyia depends on the voltage...
anything above 10 amps is pretty much death
actually anything above .2 amps will kill you if you arent attended to immediately and also voltage wont kill you if there is enough amperage any measure of voltage will kill you
Just ordered one and sent it to my ex’s house
Can you explain why it was OK for you to touch the teaspoon?
+Tim Boxall Technically speaking my body became live at 120V, but as I was completely isolated from any return path to ground I did not pass much current. If I had touched something grounded simultaneously I would have received a significant shock.
+bigclivedotcom can u explain that in non electrician words, please? :]
+bigclivedotcom u didnt touch the ground basically?
+RAFPony I was standing on wood plus carpet plus rubber soled footwear (crocs) so there was no easy route for the electricity to flow back to the general mass of earth or associated metalwork. But current will flow in any path it can find, so that should never be done routinely. A very small current did flow when I touched the spoon, but just tens of microamps.
+bigclivedotcom Could you measure yourself with a multimeter, or would that ground you enough for lethal current to flow?
Brilliant! Throwing caution to the wind, I couldn't help looking one up myself and found the listed features hilarious.Features:
1. Microwave special materials, non-toxic, odorless, In 100-degree water, it also does not decompose, not aging, not discoloration, deformation.
2. Due to the magnetic wave action during the heating, after water absorb electromagnetic energy, moisture occurs bizarre oscillation , collision, and after friction, the water rising temperatures
3. Through special panels put chlorine converted into hypochlorite, play a role in disinfection and sterilization.
In other words: This is an excellent gift to someone you hate immensely. And its way cheaper than hiring an assassin. Bought!
alternately pass it on to Photonicinduction to play with. not sure if you have seen his videos on youtube
+BillyNoMates1974 Seeing it on the big boy's supply would be interesting, briefly.
+Timothy Sherratt All the way to the "aww... I pop'd it". Unless "flamesss!" :) But yeah, definitely pass it to photon, please Clive! Also would be epic to see two of you having fun with HV (one can hope, right?)
I know thats why I am compelled to watch them :-)
+BillyNoMates1974 I'm not sure if even Photonic could pop this one. It kinda self clears the water out depending on power and can only reach the temperature the water boils at by default. He'd need to use high voltage on it.
415 volts should do it
I don't get it. How come you have not been electrocuted when inserting the spoon? Isn't that thing just basically a wire that goes from your power outlet straight into the water, which then, closing the circuit, heats up? Thx, great video as always btw ^^
+mcrsit He's isolated from earth, I'm guessing by rubber soles on his shoes. The device has two electrodes inside it, one connected to live, the other to neutral, so the circuit is "mostly" completed by the water inside the plastic shell.
Actually I'm surprised he didn't draw a schematic of it!
+igotes It's a bit more complicated than that. The water between the electrodes forms a potential divider and the rough centre tap of that is connected to by a higher resistance path of water. I'd still potentially get a major full-on mains shock if I touched any grounded surface.
Great description. I hadn't actually thought of it like that. I was surprised you didn't draw a schematic!
Shit, I already said that, haha.
"Yeah, the first one is not exciting enough, not dangerous enough. So I chose the second one" :D :D :D
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Best of China! :)
Is the small bubbles at the start not hydrogen and oxygen from electrolysis?
An explosive mixture no less. Let's hope no salt gets into it because chlorine will be created.
This is still my favorite big clive video ever.. cause it's so DANGEROUS!
I would definitely _not_ recommend these for making proper cups of tea. The key to making a good cup of tea is bringing the water to its boiling point slowly and maintaining that temperature while you expose the leaves to it. As an Englishman, this is something that is *very important* to me.
Bunny (∞) an “englishman” who calls himself bunny and has a picture of a japanese cartoon girl 🤙🏾
Bunny (∞) get a grip son - fellow Englishman
Dangerous in more than one way - that wasn't steam coming off when you first put it in, that was the electrodes forming oxygen and hydrogen. Try that self cleaning routine at the end again, but try lighting the bubbles in fire.
+Cody Hufstetler You would think so (I thought so at first), but that is not the case. See my response to TheUnnamedGent above.
YES !
I almost need one now.
However my microwave is still doing a great jobb.
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Such a type of water system existed as a water heater in the 1950s as an attachment to a normal tap. This was a small shower that had 2 electrode rings inside. The rear ring was electrically connected to the tap through the hose with which this device was attached to the tap, the front electrode was connected to a single-core cable behind the plastic shower strainer, There was a banana plug that was plugged into the live socket of the nearest power outlet. As long as the tap was closed, the flow of electricity was interrupted, but as soon as the tap was opened, the flow of electricity through the water was closed, and that water warmed up. If you shut off the water supply, the rest of the shower boiled out, which interrupted the flow of electricity again. The part was extremely life-threatening, however, since deposits of lime and salts could make the shower slightly conductive. If you touched it when opening the tap, or even tried to change the direction of the shower, you could get a fatal blow, which is why these devices were then used also prohibited. Nevertheless, you could find them in apartments for a long time.
If love to find one of those.
Great channel Clive. You've got a voice for the radio or audiobooks.
wouldn't this also cause electrolysis?
I think he meant metal electrolysis
10:29 - "Scary Butt-fun"
It's overcomplicated. Google: "Buzała"
The plug, wire, few matches and the two razors are perfectly enough.
Another variation can be used in case your hot water boiler failure and you are desperate to have a bath: just swap razors with hacksaw blades. You will need a second person to help with the RCD, but hey ho.. ;-)
Domestic water supplies typically have quite a bit of air dissolved in it. (If it didn't, there'd be an awful lot more dead goldfish.) Often, it is added by the supplier (aeration) before sending it into the mains. Normally, gas solubility varies inversely proportionally to temperature, and is the case with water, nitrogen, and oxygen. So that is what you see when the water is first heated, the air coming out of solution as tiny bubbles. If you open a hot water tap and fill a glass, you'll notice after a very short while the water is momentarily cloudy, and for the same reason, it is air coming out of solution more easily than if it were cold.
Someone mentioned you on another video, saying that you should do a video on handheld water heaters. Little did we know, you beat us by making the video 6 years ago! 🤣
Oh yeah, the heaters they were referring to was not covered in plastic. The heating element was completely exposed. You're supposed to put the element in the water first before turning it on. For most models, that means you just stick it in the water before you plug it in since they don't have switches. Turn off by unplugging.
I love that you love this device! Watching you play with it at the end gave me a good laugh 💀💀💀
put it in salty water :D 2kW, cable melting :D
I'm getting one for my mother (who won't eat her mushrooms).
I love how shocking this is to westerners (no pun intended).
Chinese tech like this is a throwback to when people were trusted to have a modicum of common sense.
I'd use it.
unfortunately, here in the western world you have to accommodate the lowest denominator.
+bigclivedotcom
Yeah, the fear of being sued for everything made sure of that.
(thanks America...)
An understanding of electricity is not common sense. Unless the instructions make it explicitly clear the dangers of electric shock. I can see anyone assuming it's safe.
Simon WoodburyForget common be fair! If you saw this thing for the first time you would assume it was just some kind of heating element.
Simon WoodburyForget tl; dr:I have some anecdotal experiences about this sbject.
*thinks* I don't think I have run in to any device that plugs into mains that doesn't have an electric shock warning in regards to water. Even heaters that use heating elelments. Even still I had an experience were the sink was shorted with mains (us) and I kept sticking my hand in it trying to unplug the dish water. It felt really hot, not so much shocking, so I thought it was just too hot if I moved fast enough I could unplug it. Eventually I noticed the CRT TV that we had sitting on the kitchen bar had a short in the wire that contacted a small puddle leading to the sink. Though I'm sure this isn't the only reason, I was standing on a rubberish matte, the only thing effected was my hand.
I can remember lots of videos from countries with poor electric infrastuctures, and education were people thought it was safe to touch a fallen primary with a stick or something. They were unaware that with enough voltage any insulator can be overcome.
Remember the louie the lightning bug? Thouh you might not have seen those psa(s). They wouldn't have been necessary if it was common knowledge.
I also remember when I was a toddler(3~4) I used to stick things in the socket, electricity always fascinated me. One time I stuck a hanger in the socket, I remember it arching like a tesla coil. Pretty sure I got knocked out or something and imagined that part. I ran down stairs after falling backwards. All the lights were flickering. I remember my mom commenting about the flickering lights. I shyly said, "I stuck a hanger in the socket." Suffice to say I got in big trouble. There was another instance were I got shocked badly messing with the electronics in a TV. There was a part that sparked whenever you turned the TV on. I wanted to touch it. I was blissfully unware about the very real possibility of death. Haha.
Hope you enjoyed my stories. I enjoyed remembering them. Anyways an understanding of electricity is not common knowledge. We know it's dangerous beyond that *shrugs*. I'm an electrical engineering intern now so I'm a lot more knowledgable.
as an Electrical Engineer I love your videos!
Clive! Could you do a video explaining the theory behind some of the ideas/concepts in this video? I find your videos very interesting and you seem to be a very intelligent fellow - but as a lay person as far as electronics are concerned I find some videos very hard to follow!
hahahah and those lovely bubbles are hydrogen. Open a window after that video
Actually it is heated dyhydrogenoxide no one is going to survive h2o contamination that forever...
And the hydrogen is going to take the oxygen out of air...
I bet my comment is gonna get marked as spam for the caps
Funny how people who are wrong will shout louder... Anyway, I'm not going to give you the answer, because then you don't learn anything. I'll say that the 2H2O -> 2H2 + O2 is only a summation of the process that actually happens and that tmkoeln isn't correct either but closer to the truth. And I do realise that I sound like a smug asshole, but than I don't give a fuck.
Nah, steam he checks in another video
Just add some salt to your tea :)
Make it toxic and heat up faster
Guess what I just bought off eBay
My maths teacher from secondary school was in the Tank Corps in WWII. They were billeted to a camp where no equipment had arrived, in the way of cooking. They heated water in a galvanised bucket by connecting it to one side of the mains, and connecting a metal rod to the other side and plunging it into the water.
I made something like this about 20 years ago. It used two stainless steel forks, which I jammed into the ends of the sausage I wanted to cook.
The electricity was produced by my home made exer-cycle. After about 2 minutes of energetic pedaling, dinner was ready.
Very safe indeed ;) .
I bought one for my ex wife only this Christmas. ..
Part of the swirly stuff that you showed is just due to the temperature difference between the different parts of the water. At different temperatures it refracts the light sligthly differently or something, I think there's a name for this effect that I can't think of right now. It's probably steam as well though.
You can reproduce the effect by pouring some hot water into cold water. It'll look somewhat swirly.
the initial bubbles are electrolysis and is creating hydrogen gas which is flammable. If it's stainless then electrolysis is uncontrolled because of nickel and iron being contained in each electrode.
I have great neighbours but I feel my flat would be even nicer if Big Clive would come live in our building.
How do you like south-western France villages Big Clive?
Clive, I wouldn't even drink that water afterwards as due to the electrolysis, ionized metal particles separate the electrodes and get dissolved in the water that might be toxic. Do you have a TDS meter handy? If so, check the TDS before and after boiling on the same temperature. Distilled water would be ideal.