I have a Lagom p100 and It feels like overkill for my traditional 1:2 ratio espresso shots. I mostly pull medium roast blends. Considering doing a major downgrade to something like this. Did you get the chance to pull other roasts other than light? I have always drank light roasts via drip and medium roasts via espresso.
Thank you for the video. Looks wise, I like the front and front three quarter views but not so much the side profile, Would work well in my space, Usage cycle would not be an issue in a one or two person setting I feel. No Power Brick !!!! An attractive addition to their range.
I have a Lagom mini which I use for espresso. Wandering whether I should upgrade. The main things that bug me about the mini is that it is very slow for espresso and there's quite a bit of retention which I've mostly worked around with a third party bellows add-on.
Great videos! I so appreciate your short and sweet, to the point style! How would you compare this to the DF64V and even Gen2 in general, for primarily espresso with a bit of pour over. I was looking at the V for my next, but this has my attention now, mostly because of build quality and reputation.
Fantastic value for money - like you said, a worthy option as first grinder, if you digg the looks. But honestly - I just want to hear more about the Philos production unit you have sitting on your bench 🤣
Thanks for another great review. Separately, I will be in the Seattle area for a week starting from this Monday (May 6). I can’t remember where, but I got the impression you were out that way. If you work in a coffee shop locally or are otherwise publicly available, would love to swing by and say hello. Either way, thanks again and keep up the great work.
Well I actually live in Southern California, but you won’t be lacking for options in Seattle. Personally I love Anchorhead, Analog, Elm Street, Olympia, and Espresso Vivace for that classic cafe experience.
Thanks for this! One thing I couldn't quite be sure of from the review is if it's possible to go from espresso to pour-over grind settings in a single rotation of the dial or if it's necessary to go past the zero point one or more times. I often switch brew methods and expect I'd find having to use multiple rotations tedious since it'd be hard to know where the grinder was set without going back to the zero point and starting again.
If it is like the Lagom Mini, which I own, I can confirm that Option-O says the filter range on this Mini is 1.2-1.5 - 10 total dots, so 1.2 would be 1 revolution and then to the second dot and so on. They also say espress0 is .5 or less. The french press they say is 2.0-2.5. This is all based on their Moonshine burr, which I have and seems to be the same Burr in the Casa. So, if you are going from espresso to french press you are multiple revolutions away. If you are going from filter to espresso, depending on how coarse your filter grind is, you may be within 1 revolution. The only caveat is the new Moonshine burr design...knowing Option-O has different recommendations on the mini between their Obsydian and Moonshine burr sets, their recommendations on the CASA may be different than what I just detailed.
l like no plastic and heavy base. i can see myself flicking that knocker more than necessary. hope you can get one those Pinion pinecones for review, would like your feedback on that on. thanks for good video as always
The fact that you mentioned "looks" several times in your review underscores a point with most coffee grinders. There aren't many that look good. In fact, my favorite coffee grinder, the Zero Z1 has an odd, almost cheap looking stand. I think my Kafatek MC4 looks great though there are other issues. Weber grinders look great too but they have their issues. The Niche Zero looks like a wilted eggplant. Frankly, there aren't any coffee grinders that I know of that are both ergonomic and design masterpieces.
@@_rtj The burrs like to travel, which they were designed to do, but the red arrow sticker then travels too. Right now, the sticker on my grinder is way off any number setting, below -0. The fix is to get another sticker. For the price, why stickers? Also, perhaps more importantly, there is no way to clean the inside of the Kafatek. The RPMs are slow too, which also is part of design, to prevent overheating the beans, but grinding still requires patience.
I’m in that category of considering a conical to pair with my flat (Zerno with Cast v2 burrs). How does something like this compare to the Cast v2 flats? How about the Kafatek Shurikones? I’ve heard those go about as sweet as you can get.
How would you compare this to the Timemore 064S? I’ve got one of those on the way but this is my first grinder and I don’t yet know what I like and don’t like about it… pretty much anything, including flat vs conical burr profiles, workflow, or noise profile
I haven’t yet, I’ll definitely ask them what the new timeline is. I think they are making a few small tweaks after the feedback from me and other beta testers and prepping the 65mm set which I didn’t have yet.
how is the body on the shots, compared to the niche? i want this kind of grinder, and was about to purchase the niche, but have been waiting on the casa. milk drinks exclusively, medium roast preference, with workflow and build quality being super important
I’d say body is on the lighter side of medium, where the Niche lands closer to the heavier side of medium, likely due to the more traditional conicals in it from Mazzer. In the medium/dark roast range I would often prefer the niche.
@@Sprometheusthank you! Sorry to be so technical, but I personally love medium, I don't like dark roast, but kinda like the light/medium. But with milk drinks exclusively, would you still go niche? I have a hand grinder for pour over
@@sdrawkcabvag Just curious, what roast level are you saying you don't like (in terms of dark roast?) City, ....City +, Full City, Fully City +, Vienna.... etc ?
Just based on the sound picked up by your mic, I don't love the sound of the motor on this one. It's got a bit too much of a high-pitched whine. I have the Niche Zero and its low-pitched rumble, though fairly loud, is at least inoffensive to my ears. I think this is going to be heavily influenced by personal tastes though. Some people are going to be much more annoyed by high-pitched sounds than others. It does seem like this one may offer a bit more clarity and better filter brews than the Niche but perhaps not enough to justify a "cross-grade." For folks who already own a legacy conical it still seems like the path is to upgrade to a higher-end flat
I have a lagom mini and the morning routine has changed the game for me, having upgraded from a Baratza Preciso. Mini is so quiet comparatively. I think sometimes these decibel tests do not translate well over video on TH-cam, but everyone has a preference.
I can say it’s definitely got a bit of mechanical whine to it, so I get you. It’s not my favorite sound, but the slower RPM makes it a little less jarring than those high speed flats with the same/similar sound.
Thank you for the great review! I have a few questions: 1. What is the typical humidity where you are? I'm in a very dry area and am curious if I might be able to get away w/o RDT (I never have before). 2. Does the catch cup center perfectly? Is there a risk of it scratching the base or is there some padding? If you wanted to grind directly into a portafilter, how might you go about doing it? 3. Do you know anything about the design/availability of the 64/65mm version? It looks like the entire grind chamber would have to be different to accommodate a significantly larger burr set. Thanks again for your awesome reviews! I love your channel.
Awesome review man as always, really considering this as my first grinder. Is this a good all rounder grinder for first time usages ? I am drinking mostly espressos, would make both black and milky drinks. I also don't want too much acidity in my coffee for black, i like those texture, body, sweet notes in the coffee.
So, if you want to do two espresso pulls, it’s going to take about 36 seconds of grinding, 90 seconds of waiting, and then 36 more seconds of grinding = almost 3 minutes?
Crazy that I skipped that one and I’m just watching it for the first time. I was looking for a budget friendly option to upgrade from my Barista express’s build-in (unreliable) grinder and this looks like the one, especially the silver model would pair perfectly with the silver express. My one concern is, I saw Justin’s review (Daddy got coffee) and the top of his unit was rocking. Did you experience this issue? That’s the one thing that worries me.
@@JuanMartinez-jp3do I’ve never used the 1zpresso so I can’t say on that. I do really like the 064s for espresso, and it’s got a lot of burr options in that 64mm realm. But the conicals in the Casa are also great for that classic, full bodied espresso, the flats will be a little cleaner. Both solid, can’t go wrong with either honestly.
Hi…;-)! Thanks for a great video, as always. I am planning to replace my Smart Grinder Pro. Which of Niche Zero or Lagom Casa would you recommend? I am drinking pour-over and espresso? Thanks!
It’s a long (3-day) Bank Holiday weekend here in the UK. Not sure if you have something similar, Stateside? Either way, hope you have a wonderful weekend. Thank you my friend.
Sorry to ask a second question- looks like $389 for the 48mm and $486 for the 65. Does that indicate it's the same body and motor? Wonder if that would be a concern
Well I think it should be considered that in this case, and some others, the info on price isn’t firmed up and often only ranges are provided. And as someone who spends weeks, or in some cases months working on reviews my pet peeve is mentioning the price right off and then just having angry comments after watching 1/4 of the video as if I have any control of that, and I haven’t even gotten to the point where a price can be even be justified or nullified.
@@Sprometheus I'd accept a range/equivalent machines. However if it is cheaper than another machine but performs equivalent/better then that would be a key part of any review. Comes down to if you would buy it or not.
Is this the same dosing cup that goes with the Option-O O1 flat burr grinder? Currently using the P100 (but eventually planning to upgrade to the O1 once it goes through a couple revs to improve noise and whatever) and love it but also looking for a style-compatible end game conical to push my key off the shelf. Ultimately I want end game conical and flat burr grinders they look like they belong together and with entirely compatible workflows on the bar. You mention this is entry level but do they have a end-game conical similar to this? This does seem a little slow and loud for espresso. I think the 65mm you elude to is what i'm looking for.
@Sprometheus would you say that extends to a la pavoni? I have a super jolly I set up for single dosing but I do find myself chasing the grind around quite a bit.
Hey The Real Sprometheus! Just checking -- some folks were worried about the Casa dipping over time because the way it was constructed. Has the grinder gone off level over time, or does it still feel solid? "Daddy Got Coffee" had expressed the concern when it came out, and mentioned that Option O said the slight tilt he experienced was within expected parameters.
@@justinhpatterson hey, I’m sure there some likely sag involved in the design, and I’d hope Option-O would be up front about it and if it was going to be a major issue. Unfortunately In my experience I can’t say, I sent the unit I was loaned off to the next person to try. But I can say over the handful of months I had it, I didn’t notice any dip.
@@Sprometheus I actually finally picked up the Casa with the 65mm burrs. Pairing it with a Timemore 064s but frankly the shots from the Casa from this week alone are clearly more consistent and flavorful. Not sure if I even need a flat anymore but I'll continue experimenting.
Man that high pitch sound is a deal breaker for me. Wish they would have bump the price up just a bit to compete with the niche. Probably would have went for it. Been looking for something with a different flavor profile for my niche for about a year but want to stay conical.
I like the looks, I just wish Option O would offer a traditional burr set for it, or for the Lagom Mini for that matter. I have the Mini and it's a pleasure to use, but the profile just isn't for me
No femobook comparison is rather odd when reviewed in the same month and both being conical. the build of this thing, you can clearly see applying pressure moves the top part of the grinder noticeably. This is a longevity concern imo
Dang. It is hella tempting to sell the niche zero and replace it with one of these. I love Niche Zero for espresso, but it's never worked for filter, having something of this build quality that can do both is very intriguing. I already own a P64, do you think there will be any crossover in the flavor profiles of those two grinders? I'm guessing that will depend heavily on the burr set. Also, is there anything I would be missing from the Casa that I currently get from the Niche Zero? Thanks again for the great content Spro!
I've had a niche zero for the last few years, brewing primarily espresso - I really love the idea of the magnetic dosing cup, auto off feature and general cleaner build quality of this grinder - do you think it can compare to the niche zero in terms of quality and reliability of the grind? do you think it's a good option for people who want an upgrade from the niche zero (but not necessarily go into the super high end territory)? thanks!!
@@jessicaanastasio6114 I love the Niche Zero, it’s just a solid grinder all around. I can’t say for the long term reliability since it’s so new and the zero at this point has been around for so long. I will say in terms of cup quality, and user experience I prefer the Casa, biggest downside moving from the Niche is the smaller grind adjustment that’s less clear in terms of where you are setting wise.
The fact that Lagom does not make matte white grinders really annoy me but also helps me not splurging on useless toys. I'm very satisfied with my Sculptor 64s and I prefer complexity over body.
Yeah I’m a little surprised they’ve stuck so hard to the silver and black this long. The 064s is a killer grinder, and if you want more clarity flats will always be the way.
Way better than the trash Weber puts out and way cheaper. Probably would use as a secondary as I use a flat burr preference but my wife likes milk drinks and it's challenging to get the big conical body without losing clarity on a flat.
Such a bizarre rollout from the company to have put this on their website for weeks without pricing information or the chance to pre-order. They also don’t respond to questions or comments in Instagram. Why?
To put you at ease perhaps, their customer service is impeccable and has a high reputation. One of the reasons I bought the Mini over a year ago. They have been so helpful.
@@ToddParker they are responsive but didn’t care that my Mini’s motor shaft bent slightly causing the burr to not spin true. They just said it was “fine” so I just live with it. Not impeccable or highly regarded by me
I have the Mini and this just seems like the Mini in an ugly package with the option of a larger burr. Considering it’s only $15 more and has a knocker and auto-off feature that’s not a bad deal for those in the market
m,ay be... but way too expensive for normal people..and additionally: I refuse, reject the use of any kinda cup or something like this for catching the grind. On ly direct grinding into the portafilter is accepted. basta. (no unnecessary oxygen contamination and elongated workflow.)
I wish I waited a little longer for this but I’m liking my df64 a lot 🥹 I got this beautiful light roast finally dialed in and it’s been producing the most wonderful cups I’ve ever had. I actually drink the whole cup 😂 I got to start trying different drinks though but I’m loving the espresso it’s making.
That out of center catch cup would trigger my inner monk too hard. 😂
I was waiting for this review: I'm sold. I'm gonna buy one
Which grinder do you recommend for a first time owner: Lagom Casa or Timemore Sculptor 064S?
Also debating between these two.
I think this grinder will be my collection. Thank you for your review.
It’s a solid contender, and a great addition to most collections!
Conicals are so underrated in the coffee world.
I have a Lagom p100 and It feels like overkill for my traditional 1:2 ratio espresso shots. I mostly pull medium roast blends. Considering doing a major downgrade to something like this. Did you get the chance to pull other roasts other than light? I have always drank light roasts via drip and medium roasts via espresso.
Thank you for the video. Looks wise, I like the front and front three quarter views but not so much the side profile, Would work well in my space, Usage cycle would not be an issue in a one or two person setting I feel. No Power Brick !!!! An attractive addition to their range.
Finally!!! Excited to watch this 😁
Cheers! Thanks for watching!
How do you choose between the smaller and the larger burr size?
I have a Lagom mini which I use for espresso. Wandering whether I should upgrade. The main things that bug me about the mini is that it is very slow for espresso and there's quite a bit of retention which I've mostly worked around with a third party bellows add-on.
Great prices on both grinder burr sizes. I'm sure it'll be a big seller.
Great videos! I so appreciate your short and sweet, to the point style! How would you compare this to the DF64V and even Gen2 in general, for primarily espresso with a bit of pour over. I was looking at the V for my next, but this has my attention now, mostly because of build quality and reputation.
Fantastic value for money - like you said, a worthy option as first grinder, if you digg the looks.
But honestly - I just want to hear more about the Philos production unit you have sitting on your bench 🤣
Thanks for another great review. Separately, I will be in the Seattle area for a week starting from this Monday (May 6). I can’t remember where, but I got the impression you were out that way. If you work in a coffee shop locally or are otherwise publicly available, would love to swing by and say hello. Either way, thanks again and keep up the great work.
Well I actually live in Southern California, but you won’t be lacking for options in Seattle. Personally I love Anchorhead, Analog, Elm Street, Olympia, and Espresso Vivace for that classic cafe experience.
@@Sprometheus Sorry, not sure why I thought Seattle, but thank you for the recommendations nevertheless!
Try Hagen in Seattle. Newer (within the last 5ish years) and one of my favorite roasters anywhere
@@sporefan33 Awesome, thanks for the recommendation. Just arrived a few hours ago, so I’ll try to give it a shot today!
Thanks for this! One thing I couldn't quite be sure of from the review is if it's possible to go from espresso to pour-over grind settings in a single rotation of the dial or if it's necessary to go past the zero point one or more times. I often switch brew methods and expect I'd find having to use multiple rotations tedious since it'd be hard to know where the grinder was set without going back to the zero point and starting again.
If it is like the Lagom Mini, which I own, I can confirm that Option-O says the filter range on this Mini is 1.2-1.5 - 10 total dots, so 1.2 would be 1 revolution and then to the second dot and so on. They also say espress0 is .5 or less. The french press they say is 2.0-2.5. This is all based on their Moonshine burr, which I have and seems to be the same Burr in the Casa. So, if you are going from espresso to french press you are multiple revolutions away. If you are going from filter to espresso, depending on how coarse your filter grind is, you may be within 1 revolution. The only caveat is the new Moonshine burr design...knowing Option-O has different recommendations on the mini between their Obsydian and Moonshine burr sets, their recommendations on the CASA may be different than what I just detailed.
l like no plastic and heavy base. i can see myself flicking that knocker more than necessary. hope you can get one those Pinion pinecones for review, would like your feedback on that on. thanks for good video as always
The fact that you mentioned "looks" several times in your review underscores a point with most coffee grinders. There aren't many that look good. In fact, my favorite coffee grinder, the Zero Z1 has an odd, almost cheap looking stand. I think my Kafatek MC4 looks great though there are other issues. Weber grinders look great too but they have their issues. The Niche Zero looks like a wilted eggplant. Frankly, there aren't any coffee grinders that I know of that are both ergonomic and design masterpieces.
@@_rtj The burrs like to travel, which they were designed to do, but the red arrow sticker then travels too. Right now, the sticker on my grinder is way off any number setting, below -0. The fix is to get another sticker. For the price, why stickers? Also, perhaps more importantly, there is no way to clean the inside of the Kafatek. The RPMs are slow too, which also is part of design, to prevent overheating the beans, but grinding still requires patience.
I think the Kafatek grinders look like a cobbled mess of metal.
@@JeepBigE "Cobbled" mess? I don't see it. Sounds too jury-rigged to me. They are awfully substantial and chunky though, hence the "Monolith" name.
@@JeepBigE agreed, great burrs, but ugliest grinder in the tier
I think the ditting 807 is sexy to me, Prima has a special version called ESP with no hopper and portafilter forks (which is kinda ugly lol).
I’m in that category of considering a conical to pair with my flat (Zerno with Cast v2 burrs). How does something like this compare to the Cast v2 flats? How about the Kafatek Shurikones? I’ve heard those go about as sweet as you can get.
How would you compare this to the Timemore 064S? I’ve got one of those on the way but this is my first grinder and I don’t yet know what I like and don’t like about it… pretty much anything, including flat vs conical burr profiles, workflow, or noise profile
Thanks for the review! Have you heard anything on when it will be available? On Tuesday they updated the site page only to say there's delays.
I haven’t yet, I’ll definitely ask them what the new timeline is. I think they are making a few small tweaks after the feedback from me and other beta testers and prepping the 65mm set which I didn’t have yet.
@@Sprometheus Appreciate it! They did add the price to their website so seems like they're ramping up. Great content as always, appreciate it!
how is the body on the shots, compared to the niche? i want this kind of grinder, and was about to purchase the niche, but have been waiting on the casa. milk drinks exclusively, medium roast preference, with workflow and build quality being super important
I’d say body is on the lighter side of medium, where the Niche lands closer to the heavier side of medium, likely due to the more traditional conicals in it from Mazzer.
In the medium/dark roast range I would often prefer the niche.
@@Sprometheusthank you! Sorry to be so technical, but I personally love medium, I don't like dark roast, but kinda like the light/medium. But with milk drinks exclusively, would you still go niche? I have a hand grinder for pour over
@@sdrawkcabvag Just curious, what roast level are you saying you don't like (in terms of dark roast?) City, ....City +, Full City, Fully City +, Vienna.... etc ?
@@HeyNikP anything beyond full city
Just based on the sound picked up by your mic, I don't love the sound of the motor on this one. It's got a bit too much of a high-pitched whine. I have the Niche Zero and its low-pitched rumble, though fairly loud, is at least inoffensive to my ears. I think this is going to be heavily influenced by personal tastes though. Some people are going to be much more annoyed by high-pitched sounds than others. It does seem like this one may offer a bit more clarity and better filter brews than the Niche but perhaps not enough to justify a "cross-grade." For folks who already own a legacy conical it still seems like the path is to upgrade to a higher-end flat
I have a lagom mini and the morning routine has changed the game for me, having upgraded from a Baratza Preciso. Mini is so quiet comparatively. I think sometimes these decibel tests do not translate well over video on TH-cam, but everyone has a preference.
I can say it’s definitely got a bit of mechanical whine to it, so I get you. It’s not my favorite sound, but the slower RPM makes it a little less jarring than those high speed flats with the same/similar sound.
@@ToddParkerI have a Mini as well and the motor in the Casa sounds exactly the same in the video from what I could tell
@@Sprometheusdoes it actually sound different than the Mini since you have both? It sounds like same to me based on the video
Thank you for the great review! I have a few questions:
1. What is the typical humidity where you are? I'm in a very dry area and am curious if I might be able to get away w/o RDT (I never have before).
2. Does the catch cup center perfectly? Is there a risk of it scratching the base or is there some padding? If you wanted to grind directly into a portafilter, how might you go about doing it?
3. Do you know anything about the design/availability of the 64/65mm version? It looks like the entire grind chamber would have to be different to accommodate a significantly larger burr set.
Thanks again for your awesome reviews! I love your channel.
Awesome review man as always, really considering this as my first grinder. Is this a good all rounder grinder for first time usages ? I am drinking mostly espressos, would make both black and milky drinks. I also don't want too much acidity in my coffee for black, i like those texture, body, sweet notes in the coffee.
So, if you want to do two espresso pulls, it’s going to take about 36 seconds of grinding, 90 seconds of waiting, and then 36 more seconds of grinding = almost 3 minutes?
please do a comparison with the mini
What scale is that at 4:35?
Just starting my barista espresso journey. I recently ordered a Gaggia Evo Classic Pro. Is this a good grinder to go with it?
Crazy that I skipped that one and I’m just watching it for the first time. I was looking for a budget friendly option to upgrade from my Barista express’s build-in (unreliable) grinder and this looks like the one, especially the silver model would pair perfectly with the silver express. My one concern is, I saw Justin’s review (Daddy got coffee) and the top of his unit was rocking. Did you experience this issue? That’s the one thing that worries me.
Is the Casa at the same level as the 1Zpresso J-Ultra? For espresso, is it better Casa 65 conical or the Sculptor 64S? Thanks
@@JuanMartinez-jp3do I’ve never used the 1zpresso so I can’t say on that. I do really like the 064s for espresso, and it’s got a lot of burr options in that 64mm realm. But the conicals in the Casa are also great for that classic, full bodied espresso, the flats will be a little cleaner. Both solid, can’t go wrong with either honestly.
@ Many thanks!
So it’s better than the femobook?! What about the Mx cool Aries?
Hi…;-)! Thanks for a great video, as always. I am planning to replace my Smart Grinder Pro. Which of Niche Zero or Lagom Casa would you recommend? I am drinking pour-over and espresso? Thanks!
It’s a long (3-day) Bank Holiday weekend here in the UK. Not sure if you have something similar, Stateside? Either way, hope you have a wonderful weekend.
Thank you my friend.
Sorry to ask a second question- looks like $389 for the 48mm and $486 for the 65. Does that indicate it's the same body and motor? Wonder if that would be a concern
At this price range, nice alternative to df64, Oro SD, varia vs3
Yeah it’s definitely aimed at the entry level range, and I think it’s definitely a proper deal considering what it offers.
Price should be the forefront of reviews. Very much my pet peeve when I have to go searching for it.
Well I think it should be considered that in this case, and some others, the info on price isn’t firmed up and often only ranges are provided.
And as someone who spends weeks, or in some cases months working on reviews my pet peeve is mentioning the price right off and then just having angry comments after watching 1/4 of the video as if I have any control of that, and I haven’t even gotten to the point where a price can be even be justified or nullified.
@@Sprometheus I'd accept a range/equivalent machines. However if it is cheaper than another machine but performs equivalent/better then that would be a key part of any review. Comes down to if you would buy it or not.
I wonder what’s better for light roasts, conical or flat burrs?
Did I miss a mention of the price point? I know you said entry to mid range price, but are we talking sub $1000 USD?
$400 price range was mentioned at the 8:20 mark
$389
Is it ready for pre order in US yet?
In case you’re still wondering, this is finally going on sale in 2 days, 7/13/24. Option-O has updated their site saying as such.
Is this the same dosing cup that goes with the Option-O O1 flat burr grinder? Currently using the P100 (but eventually planning to upgrade to the O1 once it goes through a couple revs to improve noise and whatever) and love it but also looking for a style-compatible end game conical to push my key off the shelf. Ultimately I want end game conical and flat burr grinders they look like they belong together and with entirely compatible workflows on the bar. You mention this is entry level but do they have a end-game conical similar to this? This does seem a little slow and loud for espresso. I think the 65mm you elude to is what i'm looking for.
I have a cafelat robot, would you go for this or the DF64V?
Personally I’d got for this, I love a conical for manual espresso because it has a much wider sweet spot and full bodied shots.
@@Sprometheus legend, thanks for the recommendation!
@Sprometheus would you say that extends to a la pavoni? I have a super jolly I set up for single dosing but I do find myself chasing the grind around quite a bit.
Hey The Real Sprometheus! Just checking -- some folks were worried about the Casa dipping over time because the way it was constructed. Has the grinder gone off level over time, or does it still feel solid? "Daddy Got Coffee" had expressed the concern when it came out, and mentioned that Option O said the slight tilt he experienced was within expected parameters.
@@justinhpatterson hey, I’m sure there some likely sag involved in the design, and I’d hope Option-O would be up front about it and if it was going to be a major issue. Unfortunately In my experience I can’t say, I sent the unit I was loaned off to the next person to try. But I can say over the handful of months I had it, I didn’t notice any dip.
@@Sprometheus I actually finally picked up the Casa with the 65mm burrs. Pairing it with a Timemore 064s but frankly the shots from the Casa from this week alone are clearly more consistent and flavorful. Not sure if I even need a flat anymore but I'll continue experimenting.
How are you getting your grind size with the DiFluid Omni? I never get consistent readings on mine, especially as you approach 200nm.
Man that high pitch sound is a deal breaker for me. Wish they would have bump the price up just a bit to compete with the niche. Probably would have went for it. Been looking for something with a different flavor profile for my niche for about a year but want to stay conical.
could you please review the Lelit Anna v2?
what profile you're using on the decent these days?
Hi there, can you create a Hario Switch recipe?
I like the looks, I just wish Option O would offer a traditional burr set for it, or for the Lagom Mini for that matter. I have the Mini and it's a pleasure to use, but the profile just isn't for me
Can you elaborate on the profile?
The 90 second cycle is a dealbreaker. Need a new shot every 60 seconds before my palate might reset.
No femobook comparison is rather odd when reviewed in the same month and both being conical.
the build of this thing, you can clearly see applying pressure moves the top part of the grinder noticeably. This is a longevity concern imo
price?
Dang. It is hella tempting to sell the niche zero and replace it with one of these. I love Niche Zero for espresso, but it's never worked for filter, having something of this build quality that can do both is very intriguing. I already own a P64, do you think there will be any crossover in the flavor profiles of those two grinders? I'm guessing that will depend heavily on the burr set. Also, is there anything I would be missing from the Casa that I currently get from the Niche Zero? Thanks again for the great content Spro!
The Mini has been around for awhile and does the same thing. You could have just gotten one of those
@@commentator2.0 Hoping to get the 65mm burrs, which the mini can not have to my knowledge. Also, I like the form factor of the casa better.
What’s the cost on this thing? I can’t find “official” pricing anywhere?
From what I was told by Option-O it’ll be $380-390 before shipping
@@Sprometheus so virtually the same price as a Lagom mini? Interesting…
Pricing is up now. 389 for small burrs. 486 for big burrs.
Space grade aluminum ? Nice.
Luckily they source their materials from Earth which is located in Space,
I thought brushless motors were silent
For conical I will stick with my Niche Zero!
Do you prefer the taste profile to Aries. The 65mm conical will be available with Casa?
perk trade in program for us Lagom Mini owners for easy hassle free upgrade? Option-O? Anyone? Buehler?
Seriously 😅
I've had a niche zero for the last few years, brewing primarily espresso - I really love the idea of the magnetic dosing cup, auto off feature and general cleaner build quality of this grinder - do you think it can compare to the niche zero in terms of quality and reliability of the grind? do you think it's a good option for people who want an upgrade from the niche zero (but not necessarily go into the super high end territory)? thanks!!
@@jessicaanastasio6114 I love the Niche Zero, it’s just a solid grinder all around. I can’t say for the long term reliability since it’s so new and the zero at this point has been around for so long.
I will say in terms of cup quality, and user experience I prefer the Casa, biggest downside moving from the Niche is the smaller grind adjustment that’s less clear in terms of where you are setting wise.
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UFO brewer review soon???
The fact that Lagom does not make matte white grinders really annoy me but also helps me not splurging on useless toys. I'm very satisfied with my Sculptor 64s and I prefer complexity over body.
Yeah I’m a little surprised they’ve stuck so hard to the silver and black this long. The 064s is a killer grinder, and if you want more clarity flats will always be the way.
These are anodized and if you knew anything about that then you’d know you can’t do white
Is white making a comeback? I remember my mom having a lot of white appliances back in the 90s. I also remember them yellowing over time.
@@mrhonda1 Matte white stays white. I don't buy cheap white plastic appliances but yes white looks much better than stainless steel ever did.
Mojo dojo Casa grinder
It looks like a Fellow Opus on a stand
Way better than the trash Weber puts out and way cheaper. Probably would use as a secondary as I use a flat burr preference but my wife likes milk drinks and it's challenging to get the big conical body without losing clarity on a flat.
Biggest down side has to be the tone of that sound. That is a whiny thing. Sounds like an RC car taking a corner.
Such a bizarre rollout from the company to have put this on their website for weeks without pricing information or the chance to pre-order. They also don’t respond to questions or comments in Instagram. Why?
To put you at ease perhaps, their customer service is impeccable and has a high reputation. One of the reasons I bought the Mini over a year ago. They have been so helpful.
From what I've heard, they didn't do preorder after having delay issues with the 01. Other than that, it looks pretty standard a rollout.
@@ToddParker they are responsive but didn’t care that my Mini’s motor shaft bent slightly causing the burr to not spin true. They just said it was “fine” so I just live with it. Not impeccable or highly regarded by me
Option-O makes the best grinders.
Sacrebleu: Numbers, instead of dots, upset the pure design aesthetic of the Mini. Yes, sarcasm.
Really loathe that whiny motor noise. Sounds cheap, like the EG-1
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I said in the video, it helps to listen. In the $400 range, before shipping
I don't know how they made a 200W motor sound puny and pathetic... but yeah. Big oof.
I have the Mini and this just seems like the Mini in an ugly package with the option of a larger burr. Considering it’s only $15 more and has a knocker and auto-off feature that’s not a bad deal for those in the market
m,ay be... but way too expensive for normal people..and additionally: I refuse, reject the use of any kinda cup or something like this for catching the grind. On ly direct grinding into the portafilter is accepted. basta. (no unnecessary oxygen contamination and elongated workflow.)
looks okay not great
I wish I waited a little longer for this but I’m liking my df64 a lot 🥹 I got this beautiful light roast finally dialed in and it’s been producing the most wonderful cups I’ve ever had. I actually drink the whole cup 😂 I got to start trying different drinks though but I’m loving the espresso it’s making.