Hand Pump Wells .....Deep Dive
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- Today we will take a VERY close look at hand pump wells. What parts to buy, where to buy them, how to drive the well what pitfalls you might encounter and how to get good clean water with a primitive well.
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My water table is only 450 feet down. Im going to the hardware store today. I’ll comment again in 3 years to keep you updated on how it’s going.
@michaelt9372 I’m from the future of three years ahead. I can tell you what happened, but I shouldn’t because it’ll mess up the future.
Also consider my gasket tips just posted.
Hope you started with pipe from Menard's
Only…mine is only 6 feet..lol
@@darkenergy361 I’m 7 months in. Can I get a hint?
I'm a stocker at a Menards myself and i'm sometimes putting plumbing stuff on the shelves and hooks to be sold. This deep dive will help me answer any questions about this stuff if i'm ever faced with those questions. Thank you Dave.
Just do whatever else does at big box stores just pretend you know what you’re talking about, just sound confident and well spoken and if someone calls you out just tell them “You’re the expert” and that it’s awesome to learn something new!
@@mikeFPS1980 most of the time they try to explain to me how to do something with what I've bought--I think it is really funny because I'm a retired Journeyman Carpenter.
I like the ball valve idea! I have a check valve on mine...and it will freeze shut in the winter. ...and. Sometimes just rip the rubber apart. My well is about 22ft. It's been there for more than 30 yrs.
And they sell those pitcher pumps at Menards.,😊
I have absolutely zero ambition to make a well but it was fun watching you try, fail, try again, and finally succeed. The process was interesting and I liked seeing how simple the materials are to make a well. Stay radical! 🤘🏻
I’ve watched them put in two different wells. Very interesting. I have no need either but I sure do enjoy these videos! 😊
Fr. Just calming, and his nice voice
Great video, Dave! As always crystal clear explanation of the process and times of redirection. Nice one! Now back to work on my solar system! Peace and love!
Hey, one day you might. Now you know
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Black spruce is bush radical's brother. Another cool channel 🎉
Thanks for the tip. I agree, another great channel!
Definitely SUB to Black Spruce. Ryan is always doing something interesting
So I was watching one of Bushradicals older videos on building a cabin and low and behold, another channel was recommended to me to watch, and it was Black Spruce. I watched it and enjoyed watching him build a cabin, but there was someone familiar helping him in the back ground. I thought, that guy looks a lot like Dave. He kept calling him his brother. So, long story short, I’m Black Spruce new subscriber.🎉
Another good one is his wife's channel...Girl in the Woods
@@morocho1092 yes!! I follow her, too!!
At my cabin in Northern lower Michigan. I drove a sand point with no water at 24 foot. Instead of pulling I drove through a hard clay layer, 1/8 inch per hit at times. After 3 foot of hard driving it poked into water sand. Total well depth 34 foot. Hand pump does in fact pump it, extra effort is needed on handle, and I wear out leather cups once a year. I like the ball valve idea! I used brass check valve. Great informative video! Thanks!
In the winter, below freezing, how do you drain the pipe? Otherwise would it not freeze and burst?
@@tommak6516 Check and Bleeder Valve
Holy shizzzz. This is interesting to me I'm in the Twin Cities, Minnesota so mid state. I drove 14 feet down and hit hard clay. I know a retired professional well digger who insisted since I hit hard pack clay I could not drill deeper as no sand would be below the clay and the point would be clogged with clay anyway. I drove to 17 feet and gave up. Also was told anything below 20 feet is futile for a hand pump. This is reassuring as I had given up. I did pull the sand point and it was very beat up and definitely clogged. Did you jet it to clear the clay?
@@RunningWithSauce Once in water, you cannot fill the pipe with water. If pipe holds water you're not in water. The gravity pressure of the water poured in pushes clay off point.
@@criticaleventYou can do what I did. You stick a 1/2 inches pipe in the 5/4 inches pipe AND build (in my case) or buy in that 1/2 inches pipe a valve with glass ball.
Than you will be able to pull water from that well, BUT NO MORE THAN 2 LITTERS in 3 or 5 minutes which is needed for the well to refill and it depends on the spring debit down bellow.
The 1 metter (hight with holes) and 5/4 inches pipe (cillinder) can't hold more than 1 litter of water in volume (it's a simply volume geometry math computation), than will have to refill again.
The water it will allways be sandy (muddy). At least that is the case in my "well". I am still waiting for the sediments to settle... Maybe they will never do... who knows?
The good part is that you can deposite that sandy mud and search for gold in it. 😂
Great video, Dave. I grew up in a hardware store and we sold all that stuff for sandpoints. Dont know how many pump leathers i sold growing up. The old timers were always amazed when my little sis could tell them why their wells werent pumping. She went on to get a masters in geology. Your tutorial covers this subject perfectly.
Growing up in oxberry Miss we had a pump just like that. We always had to make sure to save water in one bucket so we could prime the pump..we also had an outhouse..I was 7.. now I’m 70
Appreciate these videos where you work through the challenges bound to occur. Better than the polished vids on other channels that edit out the realities of these projects. If Dave has some struggles, I can cut myself some slack
Where can I buy one
I will probably never have to drill a well, but your instructional video was very interesting Dave. I always learn something new when I watch your channel. Thanks for more great viewing. Cheers from Australia 👏🏻🇦🇺🦘
Thanks 👍
Great comment Ms. Libby,👍👍 I totally agree!!!😍😊🥰🤗
Off grid 20+ years and hand drove my own well but be aware that a driven will is less than 25 feet deep and water tables vary a lot through the year and you may get contaminated water from surface infiltration. Always have the water tested and use a good filter.
The easiest way to drive one is with a 3 foot fence post driver or if you have access to a backhoe with a bucket you can use the bucket and weight of the tractor to drive them in.
Most driven wells fail so unless you know for sure there is water at 25 feet you are probably wasting your money.
@@Bushradicalwhat model pitch pump do you use
Dave, thanks for not giving up on TH-cam videos. We enjoy watching you do whatever it is you are currently working on. Don't stress over "Is this decent content or not." Just keep putting yourself out there and we will keep watching. Personally, I think you should be the next Motel 6 voice guy. You and Tom Bodett have such great voices. My other notable favorite is Morgan Freeman. BTW, this video did answer a couple of questions I have had about this type of well even though I have watched your other well videos. So, thanks!
Thanks for the videos Dave! I've watched all of yours, brook's and Ryan's cabin building videos like 10 times each. Can't wait to see the inside of your last cabin when you get it done. God bless you and your family.
הכל נכון גם אצלי בישראל. תודה דייויד
me too lol
Awesome video! I have an electric pump for my shallow well that I use for the house, but when I rebuilt it I put a valve and manual pump on the top just in case I loose power. This lets me have access to drinking water no matter what happens to the grid.
I will try to remember a funnel to aim for on any wells i put in on my future homestead. Thanks for the video.
Hi Dave, Something that I think you might have mentioned is that I know you use outhouses at your cabins and lots of other people do too. So the well should be as far away from the outhouse and also preferably upslope. I work for civil engineers and I don't really know about shallow wells but deep ones are always at least 50' from a septic system.
Hopefully they use a composting crapper. Far better than an outhouse, septic, or city flusher.
Code for new wells is 100' from any septic system.
@@mattdg1981 In norway they reccomend 100m or 328feet away from septic/latrine
I noticed there was a Sandpoint well on my off grid property that I bought in the UP last fall. It had an old broken pitcher pump in the cabin, and there was a drive coupler on top of the well pipe. I bought a new pitcher pump at Menards so I could put on it. I checked the depth of the well and it was about 22 feet to the bottom, but the water table was about 5 foot down. I did notice that with the spring runoff up there. There was quite a bit of water in areas where it wasn’t last fall. So I’m assuming the water table goes up and down with the runoff also. my cabin and property is in the area between Deer Park and Paradise and it’s quite sandy. The little pitcher pump works great on it. And yes I did notice when I first used it it had to clean some sediment out of the well itself and then the water cleared up. I did watch your videos about driving well and I’m glad I did not have to do that lol. But it is nice to have a well on the property that works, thanks for the videos you’re always a pleasure to watch.
The log/wrench combo was genius!
I think the well drilling vids are some of my favorites that you do. I have probably watched them over and over again at least 6 times each and have shared them with as many people as I know that have interest in that
Brooke did an outstanding job digging her well. Of course she was close to a stream.
Great video, Dave! Well done.
Many thanks!
Looks like a lot of hard work, that’s ok I love hard work, I could watch it all day.
Great video, Dave. I love that your videos make these things approachable to average poeple if you're willing to put in the work.
You did a fantastic solo job installing that well. I learned a lot. Another important job done to perfection. God bless.
Hacía tiempo que no veía un pozo con un mecanismo como este. Estos conocimientos deben perdurar ;) Good job
Thanks for the clear explanations of the process. I've been thinking about sinking one for emergency purposes. I'd suggest that if you ever have to pull another well pipe, you get yourself a hi-lift jack. They're used to pull fence posts all of the time and I think they'd work for the pipe with less damage than the pipe wrenches did.
Sounds like you know plenty water stuff. Thanks for the great show! Excellent.
At the end that water was crystal clear. Good job!
Dave, I love that I am not the only person that puts things together, only to find out it's upside down. lol..thanks for doing real videos. Love the honesty in all you do. Great work
Superb, Dave. First attempt was reasonable, but didn't work; so you went to Plan B, which worked great. You are so resourceful, and also generous, to share your resourcefulness with others. Bravo!
Loving the revisits and deep dives, living in town I don't have a direct use for a well but would love to stick one in the ground eventually, so I'm slowly acquiring the supplies, found a couple of drive couplers on clearance at Lowes the day, now to scroll market place for a pump to restore. Thanks for the info
FWIW, Harbor Freight sells a nice 2" augur bit for their powered post hole digger, that can be easily adapted for a hand augur. Getting the dirt out of the hole will be the hardest part, but it goes through clay pretty well and might be a good option until you hit sand. Also, for pulling a pipe? Tractor jack with large steel washers to grip the pipe. You can get huge steel washers at an industrial supply. In my area of NW Indiana, there's a business, AAA Steel that carries such stuff.
I love all your teachings they are clear and to the point God continue to bless you and Brooke. I watch all your programs and I am a subscriber
I've watched you do this 3 or 4 times. It always soarks mi interests Dave. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experience with us. I'm 61 years old and my ambition is to do a pump drive system like this, thanks again.
Awesome video. Northern MI is a prime place for hand driving a well. It's mostly sand. Here in central KY... not so much. I dug a half circle that was about four feet deep at the deepest end and 12 feet wide in my hill.. I mean my yard... to get a level spot and lay sand to put in an above ground swimming pool. In that one spot alone I dug out so many limestone slabs, rocks, and boulders that I was able to build a retaining wall out of the boulders for the outside, downhill edge of the pool to hold it in place and lay limestone slabs to put in a 10x10 patio for jumping right into the pool at the high end, as well as hanging out in general. I got lucky, the back wall of my dig went right into a limestone shelf, that I was able to pound down to round with a sledge hammer and a couple of hours, which meant the back edge of my dig was all rock, it wasn't going anywhere. THEN... a good friend came and picked up two trailer loads of limestone slabs and built himself a 12x15' patio at his historic home, that was actually allowed by the Hysterical Society because it was made out of locally sourced materials and built by hand. THEN I used more of the rock to build myself a fire pit further back in the yard. I then used what was left, mostly waste rocks at this point that weren't much good for anything, to fill in a three foot deep by four foot wide hole that was all the way in the back of my property that someone had dug out and never filled back in. I never have figured out why... Anyway I filled that in with the rock then covered it with top soil. All from that one pool dig. Which was more hauling out rock and stacking it then digging. So even though I could never do this here, it was still fun to watch. Thanks for sharing.
This was quite enjoyable to watch. Few things are more important to a homestead than a clean, reliable source of water.
Hi Dave, just wanted to say that you and Brooke are my two favorite outdoors people, you both make me want to get outside and GET HAPPY!!!!
Have watched all of you well making videos. Could watch all day long. Well done. Great problem solving
Thanks, Dave, great video. I have driven two wells, four if you count pulling and replacing their pipe. After driving the sand point I bring them in with a pitcher pump. I've learned the inside surface of the pump body is pretty rough which doesn't let the leather form a good seal. I improved my pump with a hone on a drill motor. It was worth the trouble. I buy my pipe, etc. from a local well drilling company. They have the correct stuff.
Always enjoy your content Dave and I generally learn something.
In SW Idaho where I live my well is at 525’ with a static water level of 410’ and it’s considered ‘shallow’ 🤣.
My neighbor on the next ridge is at 1,100’!
I envy your water table.
Keep up the good work.
In Michigan you are never more than 6 miles away from surface water. A deep well here is about 300 feet.
Love all your videos 😊😍. Great information 😁. Thanks for sharing this with me. Hello from Indiana USA and this 62 year old lady.
I watched my Grandfather, my Dad, an Uncle, and a few others drive a well 120 feet in Michigan, and they worked their Asses off. I was really young, and don't remember a ot about it, except it took a lot of summer weekends to get it done. Yes my Grand parents were some early homesteaders back in the day. They owned seven acres in an area called Texas Corners in Michigan, and they grew some of the best tasting vegetables I've ever eaten. They grew some
Christmas trees, that are probably a hundred feet tall now. It was such a wonderful place to visit as a kid, They also had two long row of Raspberries that we spent many a day harvesting when they were ripe Yes we were child slave laborers used against are will when we were young. Of course we ended up eating most of what we picked back then. They remind me of you, as my Grandparents were always buying and fixing up Michigan properties, in the lower, and upper parts of Michigan. The saddest day happened when some drunk teenager rammed my Grandfather in a head on collision, which cut short many of the joys they once had building places all over Michigan.
The ability U have 2 B soOOoo hands-on and then clear in your instructions is invaluable. I very much appreciated this thorough vid. I may never use it...but I now know what 2 do if I had 2! This was a very 'radical' vid...thanks 4 sharing. God Bless!
Hi Dave. I have driven two wells by hand and you are correct about using the right kind of pipe and fittings. I did pull one old well out and first tried with a come along and that did not work. My neighbor brought over a tool like a come along only it used a chain. I had to build a support and that thing pulled it out very easy. Great video Dave and yes I have watched the others too.
Brother I love your videos. They have helped me out quite a bit, and I have worked construction my entire life except for my 8 years in the US Marines. I love how you mention things like where the pipe wrench dinged the pipe and made it sharp to handle. These are things that most people have to learn the hard way. Great videos brother.
My ex husband did this up in the Sandhills. He welded two truck rims together, he jacked up the rear of the truck, removed one tire and installed the two rims welded together, put the truck in gear and used the spinning rim as a pulley. Worked damn good!
I've heard folks do that
Yeah, a couple years ago I tried a drive point well in SW Ohio where there is layers of sand and gravel and the occasional rock but it is mostly clay!I used a fence post driver and got down to approx. 18 feet and it just stopped dead and wouldn't go any lower. My hands were totally effed up from this experience after and I'll not be trying that again. I put that thought on the back burner but I do have a WaterStep kit that keeps talking to me. Just not ready to try again. I do enjoy your videos and know that they are helping people get water.
Use gloves
Well it took a year of trying, but finally got the well in and working. Live in the south, lots of clay. Tried just driving the sand point several times. Water is only 4’ down but clay would stop up point. Seymour makes a hand auger that works pretty good. At the cabin dug down 20 feet and hit sand. Am very happy to finally have a working pump down at the cabin. Thanks for the insight and motivation to get it done. Next is outhouse or composting toilet.
Great video Dave, I love the longer content! Keep them coming, they’re relaxing to watch and watchable over and over!
Great video. Love that you showed the failure of the first one. Keeping it honest and life being not perfect. Love the videos. Keep them coming!
Thanks for the thoughtful step by step
I really enjoy your videos, and how informative they really are. Between you your brother and your wife we seem to have come to a conclusion into what we can do and what we cannot thank you so much for your time your videos and your experiences. Live on God bless
Love these instructional videos Dave. All the best to you and family.
Man i love your videos so much! Please don't stop making them. Something so enjoyable about the way you explain what you're doing.
Extremely worthwhile, concise video. Thank you, Dave Whipple. Well done.
My neighbor has a shallow well that he runs for irrigation. Thanks for the video on how to dig one of these! Now that I know how simple it is to drive one of these I'll look into driving one into my yard to avoid those hefty water bills.
Ya know Dave...that was an awesome video for any of us that are gonna sink a Sandpoint...I've never sunk one but have friends who have them at their camp and they all see to love them for their water supply...very informative and you yo thru each step thoroughly...well done...take care ✌️
Dave great video. Just so you know you could have taken the nut on top of the valve handle off and slip the handle off and swing it to the other side and put the nut back on then you wouldn’t have had to take it apart. Love your videos Dave and can’t wait to see what you do with the house that had all the trees down on the roof. Live free and stay safe brother
I had hoped someone else would have caught that. I've run into that kind of problem before, had a ball valve in place before I realized it couldn't swing where it needed to, and fortunately realized I could reverse the handle, save a lot of work.
I pulled one this spring that I pounded in last fall, had to use two jacks and 2 pipe wrenches. Broke 2 of those same wrenches doing it. Nice video that should help folks.
Nice , educational, that might work on my property.THANKYOU!
Thank you for this video! I am close to adding a well to my off grid cabin in north Florida. This has cleared up the few remaining questions I had. The soil is very sandy and Florida's water is not the best but with this well and a home made Burkey system I should be good. Again, thank you.
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I appreciate your informative, modest, low-key, perspective. I'm learning a lot and I'm always more curious at the end of one of your videos.
Wow, great success! I remember an episode where your friends got you to try and set up a well, but no luck. You enjoyed a steak BBQ, everyone worked hard but no luck, it was devastating. I wonder if they ever tried again and struck water?
Wow clean water. Good -how -to -do -it video. Great skill to have too.
Great video. I have put a few wells in by hand bailing. Basically a 2 inch pvc well casing with a foot piece and well screen at the bottom. The bailer is normally hand made with about a 1 1/2 inch pipe with a check valve made with smaller pip and a large ball bearing. I used a auger with sections of pipe to reach ground water. Put the casing with the screen and foot piece in the hole and drop the bailer in the casing. Pull out the bailer dump the sand and water out. Rinse and repeat.
You have to twist the casing back and forth to get it to drop sometimes. When its finished you put a cypress plug in the casing followed by a full bailer of sand.
I put one at my home in Florida. 53ft of casing above the top of the screen. I got about 50 gallons per minute from it.
I put 100 lbs of concrete around the casing to seal it from water going down the outside of the casing.
Dave, you are an authentic and genuine man. Thank you for these videos we can refer to just in case.
My grandparents had a hand pump love getting the water and swinging the pail around as a kid, anyway always was interested in how it worked now i know, so thanks Dave.
Be Blessed. 😊🇺🇲
Another great "lesson", something we all might need to know!! Never miss a video...THANKS!!!
Great job explaining how to install a hand driven water pump! Love the channel.
Very informational & entertaining. Nice work! Pretty cool.
A great video with a lot of helpful information. You cover things things that other well videos failed to mention. Thank you for sharing.
Yay! I just got finished watching Brooke’s new video! I look forward to your videos and learn so much from both of you. I hope to see many videos this summer from y’all in Alaska! I also can’t wait to see your son’s new adventure as well! I love your family! Blessings ❤️
Excellent video. We.were.lucky. .Here in Georgia, we have an artesian well that is 40 feet deep and.flows.3 gallons.per minute. We ram pump it up to a.1000 gallon tank.and.have.excellent water.pressure. Off grid and blessed. Been going.for 28 years.
At my age, I will not be drilling a well, but I love the way you teach. Nice video Dave
Great video. We had a well like this at our cottage on the Mississippi River for many years. Simple yet effective.
Hey, the pipe wrench is a pretty good idea, I've always seen a piece of chain wrapped around the pipe so it binds, and then use an old bumper jack or the newer offroad jacks. good video!
That's what we did!!
Excellent- best sand point well installation I have seen! Great job 👏🏼
Wow, this is awesome. I've just seen another way of drilling groundwater. I'm drilling another way. I also took a few videos.
great job😎
tip paint the end six inches of the rib on driver so you can see it if you get over active with the driving🧐
Good tip!
Im saving up and praying to be able to homestead soon. Thank you for the instructions!
This is absolutely FASCINATING! You've got me thinking about trying to make this type of well in my backyard in FL.... in case we loose power for an extended time from hurricanes etc.!
Use water jetting to make the hole
The video was very informative, but above that, your attitude is inspirational. Thanks for another great video.
Your narration is excellent Dave. Thanks for sharing the good and the not as good. Have a great week.
Thank you so very much for making this video ..
I can't wait to put one in for my garden next yr..
I better start digging before the snow.. 😉
I dont hunt, camp or anything you ever do in videos. But i love your content. You teach perfectly, calm mannered and interesting. Great job brother, from north Alabama.
I'm curious on what you need to do to "Winterize" it against freezing and fracturing? Do you just open the check valve so that there isn't any water in the well pipe, and manually pump it back up when you visit in the winter? Thanks for taking the time to answer. Love your vids!
I was wondering the same thing....I wish someone would've answered
Another great video Dave! Well done 🤣. 🐾🙏🏻✌🏻
Thanks 👍
I have a well that I haven't put in yet in northern Wisconsin, after watching you do it, I am anxious to get mine in, Thanks!
Very interesting! 🤎💙💛 Thank You for your detailed and easy to follow video~
I always enjoy and "like" your videos. This was very informative. The tripod build was a real bonus. Thanks
Thanks Dave, always informative and entertaining :)
Thanks for another brilliant video. This is something I'm preparing myself for after my 10-year-old well is no longer bubbling for us:)
Great video.
Interestingly enough, the leather pump cup assembly looks almost exactly like on a Coleman liquid fuel camp stove just much bigger.
Thanks for sharing, it totally held my attention the entire video. I fell as though I could do it myself
That’s a good idea with the ball valve to keep things primed thanks Dave 😊
I made a road trip way up to the yoopee this summer and I was on grand island and I found this interesting, large, hand-pump. I was thinking about your well videos haha. take care
I’ve used a strap attached to a high lift/ farm Jack. Works awesome for pulling posts or anything else straight up and out of the ground.
Very cool. Me and my dad did one just like that, didn't have the weighted driver you did we took turns hitting it with a sledge. Worked in the end! Such a great resource to have on hand in remote areas where its capable, too. Water is everything.
I I am absolutely in shock that you just posted this man… I’ve been religiously watching your previous video on how to drive a hand pump well and all of the supplies needed for the last month straight. And as of yesterday just purchased all of the items I need to do so. I intended to drive my well today but I freaked myself out in fear I would ruin something LOL I haven’t even watched this video yet as I’m in shock that when I finally decide to drive this will you post a video six hours ago! You are an incredible human and you have a devout subscriber.
One project we have on our new property is rehabbing an old irrigation well. I can't wait to get started. We have community water to the house but want the well for irrigating our garden and some landscaping.
you do an excellent job of teaching...very easy to understand.Thank you
I loved watching how to do this. I don't it would work here in East TN. Our soil is definitely not sandy 😅 rocks galore!