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its actually crazy to see how overhyped he is. i wouldn't say i performed terribly with him but he's seriously always my easiest matchup and I only feel he truly wins if the rest of his team is pulling him up
This once I picked Lubu and our Dolia told me "Don't pick Lubu" But in the end I had 11 4 kda while her Boy friend on Heino was feeding and doing no dmg 😂
i’m not sure how to balance him tbh for some specific situations he works really really well(enemy lacking range/mobility/frontline) but since a lot of people get scared and pick him as early as possible when he’s available that makes it easy for competent opponents to draft against him, and not having teammates that know how to build a comp and play around him hurts a lot too even in hok global midseason(?) invitational tourney, the one before ewc his most impactful game came from a jungle heino where he builds tanky and play for the early-mid game instead i won’t mind if they tweak him to be more of a high risk high reward hero instead because he already kinda is kind of in a weird spot where heino’s neither a specialist nor a generalist but wants to be both to make up for it he wants a 7th item or even go shoeless maybe, and currently even without shoes he might still want an extra item
As for me, he plays only due to the first skill. The second is just movement with the transition to close combat, if he made a dash to the enemy. The third is just a heal...
I really like how he was used in Invitational though, I think KPL vs Falcon, used him as Farm Lane (Marksman duo on mid and roam), and most of the game his job is just to zone out enemies with skill 1, but of course won't be able to pull this off in public match. He is really good to sustain on lane, but really bad on mid because no good roaming ability, so putting him to baby sit a lane is a good one.
I main liang and da qiao, I hate having heino in my team and love having him in enemy team. He is such a selfish type of hero that I could take anyone else over him. No early game presence, needs frontliners to survive, no ability to initiate fights, no peel for his teammates, no type of utility whatsoever. Most of the time in a fight he ditches his allies by ulting away leaving them to die. I don't really like the hero because the whole team is supposed to play for his scaling when there are other mages who can bring so much more to the table.
I tried him in simulation and you basically just use your s1 constantly since it just auto targets after you lock onto the enemy. His ult is used more as an escape. The dash is good but I’m unsure how the s2 melee works and how effective it is.
The only problem with playing him is your teammates. They chase too far instead of pulling back which makes it hard for heino to hit his q on multiple enemies. He is better top lane and use ult to waste peoples time from ganks
Personally I like him as is despite the difference of opinion because you don’t have to believe what it says on paper you just play your best with the hero you love or the heroes that are nerf they still can be useful no matter how weak they are
When i played wiith my friend who mains heino i said yeah it is cool you can go back to mid instantly but you basially just did chip damage and bounced the moment the jungler arrived
I actually never like Heino in both playing and against him. The way he supposed to play in my experience played like an assassin finishing off dying enemies and made use of the ult as a second dash instead just use it to recover turret, because a friend of mine used him and plays like one. I also don't like against him because I'm a Milady main and he kept sweeping all my minions and always keep an eye on his ult
he def need a rework especially his combat mechanic, the double range is confusing, his combo is consist of spamming skills and pressing ult, also change his role to clash/jungle i think it'll fit more to him. a great example for the rework mechanic is probably Ancient One from MSW.
Is he overhyped 100% agreed. But some ppl out there could work with him exceptionally well. I got carried by someone who was playing with him mid. His constant poking and distance management skills were amazing.
didn't he get pick/ban in last tournament? and about winrate, in official website , I see last time, he has winrate 52 (CMIIW). I think he is still good at least for casual player. If there's rework for Heino, I hope they change Heino ult, especially when heino in range mode, since his ult is useful only in melee mode, but not in range mode.
From what I have seen is that his 1st skill is the most annoying I ever saw in this game. Especially if he has a big tank then he wont stop spaming s1 constantly. it is so long that it reaches backline and hurts mm, whereas hardly any other mage has this piercing ability. His ulti is also the most annoying for assasin because he escapes in almost with no hp till mid game. In solo queue, heino paired with tank is really a menance. if he got paired with liu shan then its over for the marksman.
@@sanslol3177 tank build is even worst. Heino already has good survivability what he lacks is dmg, since he doesn't have any type of cc. Usually characters without cc have good mobility or high dmg to make up for the lack of a type of control. But heino has good sustain and can poke from afar. What he needs is either a stun(but i feel thta would be too much) or a enhance to his dmg (which would be ok if it's not a huge enhance to the point he one shots everyone). Tank build lets you soak more dmg, but is completely useless since you dont do dmg... And since you have no cc you're just a walking punching bag you cant even do a decent poke to trade for all the dmg you're taking, so i think dmg build is still way better for Heino.
I love heino on enemy team, free win for me. Currently in 90*ish gm, not that high but i think my word has a bit of credibility. Imo the champion does rely a lot with ur teammates to setup with cc where i think the most comparable playstyle is gan mo (only poke, no cc), however he needs time to ramp up his marks in other to start dealing dmg and the most punishing part about him is, he only maximize his dmg if enemy coming from one direction, even if the enemy is split apart a bit, u only be hitting 1 arrow to them which tickles them, i always tell my team to spread a bit in teamfight n heino will do less dmg overall. i also agree that his early presence is really bad compared to other mages, especially in the matter of mid lane powerspike which is definitely at lvl 4 in which heino doesnt gain anything from it (even gan mo has the ability to almost one shot the enemy). To explain the pro play comments, I would say the better and coordinated ur team, the better heino is to do early plays like diving n stuff to keep ur team ahead which explain why pro plays pick/ban him a lot, u need to remember not all hero thats good in proplay apply in solo queue as well, mostly are but there are exceptions and this is true for all MOBA. i think ur final words in the video describe the champion perfectly. It is easier to lose with this champion than to win.
Mage Heino is so easy to kill with a hero like Lanling then clash heino really is only good for soaking up damage nothing special about him and if you build antiheal clash heino becomes useless
Bad? The hero design itself is so bad... This is a damage heino not a tank Like you want him to suicide every time just to deal a slightly to none damage? And it seems that you also want to reset the mark of his ulti if you want to dash so badly making any other dive heroes can easily kill him after his ulti
I play him as clash lane and yah, his damage suck. He's main role is just poke and split push but there are better split pusher in game than him. He's got great mobility and can distract enemies to chase after wherever lane his at but you can always just escape using his ult. Wish they buff his S1 damage more or maybe make him a hybrid between physical and magic.
Heino tank is my main. Been consistently winning games with MVP. Maybe the trick is the utilise between melee and range. I always go melee during late game. It takes 5 person to kill me. 4 person is really not enough, they can’t kill me
Once i reached master 2, i stopped using him cause enemies know how to dodge his skills. Now i just use mages with cc in their skills like nuwa and mai. They are way better tbh.
@@kyouitv if I'm being really honest, in this match you're whole team including you were losing, no champion is capable of doing anything about that, you need to have something that is fed on your team to even have a slight chance at Winning
i think his good, if you're team picks can synergize heino or a very good comms, this should be a video about heino not being good at solo Q cuz he can't carry, he is more on poke/utility rather than burst/damage
for me hes balanced for his overloaded kit thats the trade he cant hard carry like other mages do but when he reach full items hes unstoppable especially in hybrid build you just disrespect your opponent
there are a lot of mages that is only good in utility but gives you more value like lady zhen she is not a really good hero in terms of hard carrying but her utility brings so much value during teamfights
i agree, he is only good if the enemy team commits to teamfights and gets close to your range otherwise he deals 0 dmg. agree that his gank is worthless. he is somewhat better in solo lane and can be a lane bully but then in teamfights he isn't that good nor can he split push well.
That's why the 1st time I played him I did not try to play him again. His so out of my style.. like I honestly see no good about his skills aside poking if he is build tanky his good coz I saw a teammate did it and his infront and taking damage which is good for a teamfight. I would rather choose Menki as an underated hero than this champ lol And also Augran even with a nerf is still insane his passive w sheer state is what makes him OP plus build him some defense items his wayyyy better than Heino
Only place he really shines is clash lane and that’s only during the laning phase lol just because clash laners are all close combat he can just chill and poke lol
@@kyouitv currently GM 60 stars and peak elite player,played last 50 games with full tank heino on clash or jungle and probably didnt loose more than 4 games so yeah, hes pretty broken.
i totally aggre with you mate, i mean yea this hero has his own world in terms of gameplay & sort of things. But i can't find a good reason for him to be PRIORITY BAN or PRIORITY PICK in RANKED, like he can be countered easily.... be it as a midlane or clashlane. Matching with ganmo in mid wdyt will happen to him? or either in clash lane, what more impact can he give to his teammate beside sustain? compare him with allain, or even biron & sunce in terms of impactful and other benefits you could give for your own team.
Crowd control = CC Any heroes that have a stun called CC Sustain is from the word itself the heroes who can heal themself Squishy enemies from the word itself Those heroes that are very easy to kill
@@kyouitv Thank you so much and I really appreciate your fast response this really help me a lot,and yeah it's embarrassing to not realize the squishy one from the start xd
This always been my complain to all my ally whenever they in banning phase or pick. Heino only good at damage but in future he wont be good anymore since so many mage in cn straight up outclass him like jiang ziya and another burst mage angela type. Even right now its better to pick nuwa,gan mo, or angela which everyone hasbut underlook just because she's beginer hero🙃 Good thing if enemy pick heino and their teammate were clueless how to make him good, if it was teammate i truly had to workd ectra hard to actually win since heino is such a burden in early🙃
I have a doubt about him, although I see Henio as very bad or at the same time depending on the situation it is as if you see a player who has Henio, you don't know if he is really good or bad. But when playing it in my experience, it is horribly overwhelming, I have tried it in both mage and clash, the clash is something curious since I have to keep hero squishe in line or That it doesn't have any mobility, I've won a few times, but with the henio kda, it feels very poor because it's only harassing your rival. Even if I get a build for him somehow, it doesn't change anything, as I'm surprised that so many people have S or A popularity, having a high winrate of 52.78% I really think that anyone who uses henium will be very overrated, that would be a losing condition, because imagine if he is a noob or someone who thinks he is broken, that is like having a cousin who plays an easy hero.
Hes a fake stat Hero : - high kda -> ks or pokes - less death -> first to run or ignored - high damage given -> pokes and autoaim - high damage taken -> lifesteal and ulti -MVP? Compilation of the above Its hurtful when hes the one who got high score and thinks that hes carrying the team while in reality hes the one who actually contribute less and the first to run at the sight of trouble..
Lmao, I've started playing HoK in June, played Heino for the first time after two weeks of playing and been telling everyone since then he needs a rework. This hero is trash
heino should at least has something stun or cc or group skill to make he s1 work self efficient. I play him at clash everybody mid and jungle gank at me. I hide behind tower annoying poke them lol got triple kill early mid games. when you get his items boi he literally unkillable at clash lane except angela and houyi or any burst time hero melt him
Pro scene doesn't reflect the general playerbase. The worst ranked hero could be the best hero in pro league simply because pro league have proper strategies and insane coms @SuebummoTTico
Oh so my "huh just what the heck about him is good? Why people keep banning him?" thought was right😂 I'm a midlane user and when I tried him..well..compared to other mages he always feels lacking
But my though heino is best but you have knowledge about him & properly use him. He can recall tower bro & everyone know how important towers & heino & dolia combo are insane after 15 level so in my opinion heino still best & still every match heino banned 🚫..
I can still win against a dolia heino combo it's actually not a broken combo and also goodluck on reaching those stages of the game since the game will already be over before dolia reaches her lvl 15 lol
Finally , I always thought this hero is over hyped 😂 , Bright from AoV with the same passive is much stronger 😮. I never like "scaling" mages with bad early game , bcz they cant take objectives like carries even in the late game . And most of the time Mages with no cc is a big no no for me
At first i thought, what a broken hero..auto aim, multi target, really?? But i always thinks hes kinda..off?? I win some matches with him but it just doesnt click..hes just..so simple..only poking hero..heck..i enjoy playing mulan way more than him eventho i suck and got destroyed in my first matches.. I thought he was broken, turns out hes just..selfish..
I dont know bro but i kinda disagree with your words i honestly respect you you're a great player but for me heino is really good still even in this meta i win every single game whenever i play with heino he seriously doesnt offer a lot in the early game but its really broken in late game i have clutched 1v4 and 1v5 many times i just play it like a marksman always poke poke
@@toluwaniakinsola3860 Maybe that's a part of it lol but this hero in general isn't really that hard to beat . . I don't really have any problems beating him in most of my matches against him
Ya its easier to defeat heino witha mage like diaochan sanghhuan or mai shiranui since it can close gap easily but at the end it comes to player his own game sense and knowledge for predicting moves a good heinoplayer never straight up fight them on a 1v1 its useles for heino to fight 1v1 it work exceptionally well as a backline hero
His damage is good, specially when in late game, he also has good poking ability and in short ranged form he can sustain pretty well I think he's decent.
his late game damage is also trash like yeah poking only but he can't do anything other than that especially against players knows how to distance from his range
His late game is pretty shit. All that poke is great in early game in lane with towers, but lane game it's only good for applying affects like a slow. I think he needs to be reworked into a Tank mage and taken out of mid lane for only Clash lane. Or add a natural slow when repeatedly hitting the same target and make him a Roamer. Make him a real split pusher/roamer and remove that visible trail connecting his teleport. Nuwa already teleports from mid lane reliably. I've had to carry a few games recently where people took Heino mid lane, leaving our team without much CC after I was forced clash lane, was annoying. I usually ban Heino.
Lol i just had 7 win streaks only playing heino so saying he’s useless is just nonsense to me🤣 maybe you don’t play with his strenght and only see his weakness
@@TokyRamibruh heino is normal hero there is mages not here yet (mi yue, xi shi as example or even chang e mana taker from enemy)heino will be bad of you compare to them or the correct meta like mai frost or even yohuan helpful than him in team fight he better in clash line or just situational hero heino he lacks the mid line things he just annoying but not bad
Are you blind? He is only pretty much good if you are playing up against a no brainer players Or you are one of those boosted players who only plays in a party setup And he is pretty much outclassed by other mage heroes who can be very useful in both teamfights and pickoffs On top of that he can only do pokes and other mages can easily do what heino can do in a much better way Like mai who can constantly poke CC and burst at the same time Any other meta heroes can do way better than him Especially in terms of damage And heino is only good at defending and not from the offensive side And stop copping so hard in this hero It doesn't change the fact that he is so bad
@@kyouitv well it's probably because he is such an annoying champ to face, if you're facing him in clash lane it's quite annoying if the opponent is actually good but if you're jungler plays for you, then it's not a big problem because heino players tend to overextend
Your playing him in wrong lane. There are magic heroes that are better suited for other lanes. Heino for example is really used in clash lane, Mozi is also better suited for clash lane, there is another magic hero that is very annoying to deal with in the clash lane but I think she is not available in the global version yet as the character is a historical figure in China. Use Heino in clash lane.
Its true his wave clear is super fast but so useless when it comes to ganking. Only good thing about this overrated and boring of all boring champs, he is good in long fights and super annoying AF if you can't kill his teamates fast and keeps poking in the backline.
I won't lie I want him to remain the way he is because i want to see how long people keep complaining about him.
its actually crazy to see how overhyped he is. i wouldn't say i performed terribly with him but he's seriously always my easiest matchup and I only feel he truly wins if the rest of his team is pulling him up
I would rather pick nuwa than him lol
This once I picked Lubu and our Dolia told me "Don't pick Lubu"
But in the end I had 11 4 kda while her Boy friend on Heino was feeding and doing no dmg 😂
as a ganmo user, i love harassing heino user :DD
Idk about this one but I am getting MVP in grandmaster consistently with him. He just needs to be used creatively.
@@etherealnight1722 he is easy to get mvp but in reality his contribution in the team is literally has no impact at all
@@kyouitv Maybe heino is best as a back liner he gives lot of damage from backline, but he sucks in front of enemy
@@zeyank07yt76 his damage sucks tbh
You are so right he sucks in solo queue until your team helps you you can't give any damage
i’m not sure how to balance him tbh
for some specific situations he works really really well(enemy lacking range/mobility/frontline)
but since a lot of people get scared and pick him as early as possible when he’s available that makes it easy for competent opponents to draft against him, and not having teammates that know how to build a comp and play around him hurts a lot too
even in hok global midseason(?) invitational tourney, the one before ewc his most impactful game came from a jungle heino where he builds tanky and play for the early-mid game instead
i won’t mind if they tweak him to be more of a high risk high reward hero instead because he already kinda is
kind of in a weird spot where heino’s neither a specialist nor a generalist but wants to be both
to make up for it he wants a 7th item or even go shoeless maybe, and currently even without shoes he might still want an extra item
This will always be a problem with heroes that are viewed as OP. Augran has the same issue right now
As for me, he plays only due to the first skill. The second is just movement with the transition to close combat, if he made a dash to the enemy. The third is just a heal...
I really like how he was used in Invitational though, I think KPL vs Falcon, used him as Farm Lane (Marksman duo on mid and roam), and most of the game his job is just to zone out enemies with skill 1, but of course won't be able to pull this off in public match. He is really good to sustain on lane, but really bad on mid because no good roaming ability, so putting him to baby sit a lane is a good one.
I main liang and da qiao, I hate having heino in my team and love having him in enemy team. He is such a selfish type of hero that I could take anyone else over him.
No early game presence, needs frontliners to survive, no ability to initiate fights, no peel for his teammates, no type of utility whatsoever. Most of the time in a fight he ditches his allies by ulting away leaving them to die.
I don't really like the hero because the whole team is supposed to play for his scaling when there are other mages who can bring so much more to the table.
And unlike a Carry , cant take objectives or turrets fast either 😂
I think they need to add 4th skill where he can change from range to melee without dashing
I love that you still reply and react to comments even until now! Keep it up!
I tried him in simulation and you basically just use your s1 constantly since it just auto targets after you lock onto the enemy. His ult is used more as an escape. The dash is good but I’m unsure how the s2 melee works and how effective it is.
This is the reason i get mad when people in random match ban heino instead of augran like bruh.
The only problem with playing him is your teammates. They chase too far instead of pulling back which makes it hard for heino to hit his q on multiple enemies. He is better top lane and use ult to waste peoples time from ganks
I main heino clash lane and he is actually quite good, especially late game when he is *literally unkillable*
Building Holy Grail first item on Heino is insane
building any first item with him doesn't change that much
Personally I like him as is despite the difference of opinion because you don’t have to believe what it says on paper you just play your best with the hero you love or the heroes that are nerf they still can be useful no matter how weak they are
When i played wiith my friend who mains heino i said yeah it is cool you can go back to mid instantly but you basially just did chip damage and bounced the moment the jungler arrived
I actually never like Heino in both playing and against him. The way he supposed to play in my experience played like an assassin finishing off dying enemies and made use of the ult as a second dash instead just use it to recover turret, because a friend of mine used him and plays like one. I also don't like against him because I'm a Milady main and he kept sweeping all my minions and always keep an eye on his ult
As a mid laner, dealing with him is not a problem but heino annoys mms so much if played aggressively. I'd rather ban mai tbh
he def need a rework especially his combat mechanic, the double range is confusing, his combo is consist of spamming skills and pressing ult, also change his role to clash/jungle i think it'll fit more to him.
a great example for the rework mechanic is probably Ancient One from MSW.
but he's being banned and picked in pro tournaments, can you explain why?
because he is more often played in the jungle rather than mid
Is he overhyped 100% agreed. But some ppl out there could work with him exceptionally well. I got carried by someone who was playing with him mid. His constant poking and distance management skills were amazing.
didn't he get pick/ban in last tournament? and about winrate, in official website , I see last time, he has winrate 52 (CMIIW). I think he is still good at least for casual player. If there's rework for Heino, I hope they change Heino ult, especially when heino in range mode, since his ult is useful only in melee mode, but not in range mode.
Nuwa has more winrate than him
From what I have seen is that his 1st skill is the most annoying I ever saw in this game. Especially if he has a big tank then he wont stop spaming s1 constantly. it is so long that it reaches backline and hurts mm, whereas hardly any other mage has this piercing ability. His ulti is also the most annoying for assasin because he escapes in almost with no hp till mid game. In solo queue, heino paired with tank is really a menance. if he got paired with liu shan then its over for the marksman.
Bro got the wrong Heino build. That's why he's complaining about Heino
any build won't change anything about him
any build and I MEAN any build won't work on him....only tank build and his melee mode works for that one but the ranged...nah
@@kyouitv i used your old heino build and it's still works if my team have double tank
@@sanslol3177 tank build is even worst. Heino already has good survivability what he lacks is dmg, since he doesn't have any type of cc. Usually characters without cc have good mobility or high dmg to make up for the lack of a type of control. But heino has good sustain and can poke from afar. What he needs is either a stun(but i feel thta would be too much) or a enhance to his dmg (which would be ok if it's not a huge enhance to the point he one shots everyone). Tank build lets you soak more dmg, but is completely useless since you dont do dmg... And since you have no cc you're just a walking punching bag you cant even do a decent poke to trade for all the dmg you're taking, so i think dmg build is still way better for Heino.
There's literally like only 2 builds that work on him right now and this is one of them. Change his 2 core items and his damage will be gutted.
How do you feel about Kongming in the meta rn
Very conditional
I love heino on enemy team, free win for me. Currently in 90*ish gm, not that high but i think my word has a bit of credibility. Imo the champion does rely a lot with ur teammates to setup with cc where i think the most comparable playstyle is gan mo (only poke, no cc), however he needs time to ramp up his marks in other to start dealing dmg and the most punishing part about him is, he only maximize his dmg if enemy coming from one direction, even if the enemy is split apart a bit, u only be hitting 1 arrow to them which tickles them, i always tell my team to spread a bit in teamfight n heino will do less dmg overall. i also agree that his early presence is really bad compared to other mages, especially in the matter of mid lane powerspike which is definitely at lvl 4 in which heino doesnt gain anything from it (even gan mo has the ability to almost one shot the enemy). To explain the pro play comments, I would say the better and coordinated ur team, the better heino is to do early plays like diving n stuff to keep ur team ahead which explain why pro plays pick/ban him a lot, u need to remember not all hero thats good in proplay apply in solo queue as well, mostly are but there are exceptions and this is true for all MOBA. i think ur final words in the video describe the champion perfectly. It is easier to lose with this champion than to win.
Mage Heino is so easy to kill with a hero like Lanling then clash heino really is only good for soaking up damage nothing special about him and if you build antiheal clash heino becomes useless
Honestly the way u play heino is kinda bad. Try throwing ur spear and use ur dash to reposition. Rather than trying to max out your spear range..
Bad? The hero design itself is so bad...
This is a damage heino not a tank
Like you want him to suicide every time just to deal a slightly to none damage?
And it seems that you also want to reset the mark of his ulti if you want to dash so badly making any other dive heroes can easily kill him after his ulti
I play him as clash lane and yah, his damage suck. He's main role is just poke and split push but there are better split pusher in game than him. He's got great mobility and can distract enemies to chase after wherever lane his at but you can always just escape using his ult.
Wish they buff his S1 damage more or maybe make him a hybrid between physical and magic.
What if his melee attck has cc immune
It's so satisfying to combo him with azenka since he's just stay still lol, so easy to combo with my azenka
@@kazehayaryoji3145 azen who?
Heino tank is my main. Been consistently winning games with MVP. Maybe the trick is the utilise between melee and range.
I always go melee during late game. It takes 5 person to kill me. 4 person is really not enough, they can’t kill me
It's different from damage build lol
Once i reached master 2, i stopped using him cause enemies know how to dodge his skills. Now i just use mages with cc in their skills like nuwa and mai. They are way better tbh.
I wouldve built mask of agony because theres literally 3 tankers on the enemy team, buy maybe im wrong lol
I don't know his poke damage work for me his ult also reduced defense, yes he really suck in health department but his range just to good
Your talking about heino being useless when you cant even using him correctly, skill issue it seems
Well try using him in this current situation
Let's see how big your impact in this game lol
@@kyouitv if I'm being really honest, in this match you're whole team including you were losing, no champion is capable of doing anything about that, you need to have something that is fed on your team to even have a slight chance at Winning
i think his good, if you're team picks can synergize heino or a very good comms, this should be a video about heino not being good at solo Q cuz he can't carry, he is more on poke/utility rather than burst/damage
that 2 condition is already non existing in solo q lol
for me hes balanced for his overloaded kit thats the trade he cant hard carry like other mages do but when he reach full items hes unstoppable especially in hybrid build you just disrespect your opponent
there are a lot of mages that is only good in utility but gives you more value
like lady zhen she is not a really good hero in terms of hard carrying but her utility brings so much value
during teamfights
i agree, he is only good if the enemy team commits to teamfights and gets close to your range otherwise he deals 0 dmg. agree that his gank is worthless.
he is somewhat better in solo lane and can be a lane bully but then in teamfights he isn't that good nor can he split push well.
That's why the 1st time I played him I did not try to play him again. His so out of my style.. like I honestly see no good about his skills aside poking if he is build tanky his good coz I saw a teammate did it and his infront and taking damage which is good for a teamfight. I would rather choose Menki as an underated hero than this champ lol And also Augran even with a nerf is still insane his passive w sheer state is what makes him OP plus build him some defense items his wayyyy better than Heino
That's why clash lane his better role
Nah.. he's team comp dependant.. need a tank that can cc..
not really..
even with tanky heroes he is still suck
He needs a good roamer with him like dolia or zhangfei.
any roamer doesn't make any a difference for him
@@kyouitv ok
@@DoctorSupportYT only if he is in the farm lane
But in the mid lane any support doesn't make him better
Li Bai also... His Ult can't be used that fast when you want to kill your opponent quickly...
lmao thats skill issue thats why hes very hard even with a simple kit you need brain
Nah bro. Li bai is perfect. If u can't get ult it's skill issue. Start fight with basic attack stacks or land skill 1 dashes .
Li bai should get faster clear in warly game , more dmg on to auto attack I guess
Only place he really shines is clash lane and that’s only during the laning phase lol just because clash laners are all close combat he can just chill and poke lol
Heino is dominating the meta as clash or mid.I dont know what game have you been playing
Dominating in low rank? Lol
@@kyouitv If you say so buddy
Let's be real he only works against a no brainer type of players
@@kyouitv currently GM 60 stars and peak elite player,played last 50 games with full tank heino on clash or jungle and probably didnt loose more than 4 games so yeah, hes pretty broken.
Don't get me wrong but there are some boosted elite players in the game who got ranked that far during their party setups
i totally aggre with you mate, i mean yea this hero has his own world in terms of gameplay & sort of things. But i can't find a good reason for him to be PRIORITY BAN or PRIORITY PICK in RANKED, like he can be countered easily.... be it as a midlane or clashlane. Matching with ganmo in mid wdyt will happen to him? or either in clash lane, what more impact can he give to his teammate beside sustain? compare him with allain, or even biron & sunce in terms of impactful and other benefits you could give for your own team.
he actually has 0 impact in his both form
this hero shouldn't be existing at all
Guys, I'm New to the game so can anyone tell me what the meaning of:cc, sustain and Squishy enemies.
Crowd control = CC
Any heroes that have a stun called CC
Sustain is from the word itself the heroes who can heal themself
Squishy enemies from the word itself
Those heroes that are very easy to kill
@@kyouitv Thank you so much and I really appreciate your fast response this really help me a lot,and yeah it's embarrassing to not realize the squishy one from the start xd
This always been my complain to all my ally whenever they in banning phase or pick. Heino only good at damage but in future he wont be good anymore since so many mage in cn straight up outclass him like jiang ziya and another burst mage angela type. Even right now its better to pick nuwa,gan mo, or angela which everyone hasbut underlook just because she's beginer hero🙃
Good thing if enemy pick heino and their teammate were clueless how to make him good, if it was teammate i truly had to workd ectra hard to actually win since heino is such a burden in early🙃
I have a doubt about him, although I see Henio as very bad or at the same time depending on the situation it is as if you see a player who has Henio, you don't know if he is really good or bad.
But when playing it in my experience, it is horribly overwhelming, I have tried it in both mage and clash, the clash is something curious since I have to keep hero squishe in line or That it doesn't have any mobility, I've won a few times, but with the henio kda, it feels very poor because it's only harassing your rival.
Even if I get a build for him somehow, it doesn't change anything, as I'm surprised that so many people have S or A popularity, having a high winrate of 52.78%
I really think that anyone who uses henium will be very overrated, that would be a losing condition, because imagine if he is a noob or someone who thinks he is broken, that is like having a cousin who plays an easy hero.
Hes a fake stat Hero :
- high kda -> ks or pokes
- less death -> first to run or ignored
- high damage given -> pokes and autoaim
- high damage taken -> lifesteal and ulti
-MVP? Compilation of the above
Its hurtful when hes the one who got high score and thinks that hes carrying the team while in reality hes the one who actually contribute less and the first to run at the sight of trouble..
I play him as mm in farm lane
Lmao, I've started playing HoK in June, played Heino for the first time after two weeks of playing and been telling everyone since then he needs a rework. This hero is trash
heino should at least has something stun or cc or group skill to make he s1 work self efficient. I play him at clash everybody mid and jungle gank at me. I hide behind tower annoying poke them lol got triple kill early mid games. when you get his items boi he literally unkillable at clash lane except angela and houyi or any burst time hero melt him
@@yuki9894 he is unkillable yeah and he is also easy to ignore either
Like yeah you can sustain but you deal literally no damage
Why was he always ban in ewc?
because he is often times played in the jungle rather than in the mid lane
and pro scene and rank game are 2 different scenarios
Oh i see, so with heino the invade will be easier with is utl?
"pro scene and ranked are 2 different scenarios" then why ur telling us he needs a rework if he's doing fine in pro scene?@@kyouitv
fine in the pro scene?
I don't even see him being so good in the pro scene either
Pro scene doesn't reflect the general playerbase. The worst ranked hero could be the best hero in pro league simply because pro league have proper strategies and insane coms @SuebummoTTico
Oh so my "huh just what the heck about him is good? Why people keep banning him?" thought was right😂 I'm a midlane user and when I tried him..well..compared to other mages he always feels lacking
His damage is so meh esp early game. Needs a buff tbh
But my though heino is best but you have knowledge about him & properly use him. He can recall tower bro & everyone know how important towers & heino & dolia combo are insane after 15 level so in my opinion heino still best & still every match heino banned 🚫..
I can still win against a dolia heino combo
it's actually not a broken combo and also goodluck on reaching those stages of the game
since the game will already be over before dolia reaches her lvl 15 lol
Finally , I always thought this hero is over hyped 😂 , Bright from AoV with the same passive is much stronger 😮.
I never like "scaling" mages with bad early game , bcz they cant take objectives like carries even in the late game .
And most of the time Mages with no cc is a big no no for me
I hate him but for a completely different reason, since i play mm a lot, i don't want to get auto hit.
At first i thought, what a broken hero..auto aim, multi target, really?? But i always thinks hes kinda..off?? I win some matches with him but it just doesnt click..hes just..so simple..only poking hero..heck..i enjoy playing mulan way more than him eventho i suck and got destroyed in my first matches..
I thought he was broken, turns out hes just..selfish..
In my game heino did 329k damage
I play him in clashlane sustain build
Pls make more of this video so people would stop banning heino
And i agree hes kinda useless if the enemy knew how to avoid the skill 1 of heino
@@muhammadfauzantristiarso3724 How do you avoid it?
I like to play him clash lane tho i do get MVP 80% of the time so he's okay I guess
clash heino is only good in the early
and his mid to late game is garbage
You're truly his #1 hater and im here for it 😂
I actually hate when someone picks him in your team
it's literally an easy lose lol
I dont know bro but i kinda disagree with your words i honestly respect you you're a great player but for me heino is really good still even in this meta i win every single game whenever i play with heino he seriously doesnt offer a lot in the early game but its really broken in late game i have clutched 1v4 and 1v5 many times i just play it like a marksman always poke poke
Doesn't work that much in the high tier
If you are playing against bots it might work
@@kyouitv ya i think dev sending me bots on mythic
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Just a moment ago i destroyed him 9-0 with diaochan 💀 he's not really that scary
Probably a bad Heino 😅
no the hero design is just so bad
@@toluwaniakinsola3860
Maybe that's a part of it lol but this hero in general isn't really that hard to beat . . I don't really have any problems beating him in most of my matches against him
Yep@@toluwaniakinsola3860
Ya its easier to defeat heino witha mage like diaochan sanghhuan or mai shiranui since it can close gap easily but at the end it comes to player his own game sense and knowledge for predicting moves a good heinoplayer never straight up fight them on a 1v1 its useles for heino to fight 1v1 it work exceptionally well as a backline hero
Yea i agree he kinda useless not get kills too only assist i hopd they change him or rework his skill ulti i just only play him if my gf play doria.
Guys, Heino is so trash right now, literally useless, so stop banning and using him, especially above epic (so that i can use him more myself 😂)
His damage is good, specially when in late game, he also has good poking ability and in short ranged form he can sustain pretty well I think he's decent.
his damage is mediocre at its best
@@kyouitv that's why he's good at poking
his late game damage is also trash
like yeah poking only but he can't do anything other than that especially against players knows how to distance from his range
His late game is pretty shit. All that poke is great in early game in lane with towers, but lane game it's only good for applying affects like a slow.
I think he needs to be reworked into a Tank mage and taken out of mid lane for only Clash lane. Or add a natural slow when repeatedly hitting the same target and make him a Roamer.
Make him a real split pusher/roamer and remove that visible trail connecting his teleport.
Nuwa already teleports from mid lane reliably.
I've had to carry a few games recently where people took Heino mid lane, leaving our team without much CC after I was forced clash lane, was annoying.
I usually ban Heino.
Lol i just had 7 win streaks only playing heino so saying he’s useless is just nonsense to me🤣 maybe you don’t play with his strenght and only see his weakness
He doesn't have any strengths at all
@@kyouitv 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bruh stop playing your game analysis suckks
@@TokyRamibruh heino is normal hero there is mages not here yet (mi yue, xi shi as example or even chang e mana taker from enemy)heino will be bad of you compare to them or the correct meta like mai frost or even yohuan helpful than him in team fight he better in clash line or just situational hero heino he lacks the mid line things he just annoying but not bad
Are you blind?
He is only pretty much good if you are playing up against a no brainer players
Or you are one of those boosted players who only plays in a party setup
And he is pretty much outclassed by other mage heroes who can be very useful in both teamfights and pickoffs
On top of that he can only do pokes and other mages can easily do what heino can do in a much better way
Like mai who can constantly poke CC and burst at the same time
Any other meta heroes can do way better than him
Especially in terms of damage
And heino is only good at defending and not from the offensive side
And stop copping so hard in this hero
It doesn't change the fact that he is so bad
Elsa poke😂😂😂
I think bro hates heino
you probably didn't know that a lot of people doesn't like his skillset design as a whole
@@kyouitv well it's probably because he is such an annoying champ to face, if you're facing him in clash lane it's quite annoying if the opponent is actually good but if you're jungler plays for you, then it's not a big problem because heino players tend to overextend
Your playing him in wrong lane. There are magic heroes that are better suited for other lanes. Heino for example is really used in clash lane, Mozi is also better suited for clash lane, there is another magic hero that is very annoying to deal with in the clash lane but I think she is not available in the global version yet as the character is a historical figure in China. Use Heino in clash lane.
his form is both useless thou
I rarely use Heino becauss its always banned both in global and Chinese servers. 😢 But yes, Heino is very good.
Its true his wave clear is super fast but so useless when it comes to ganking. Only good thing about this overrated and boring of all boring champs, he is good in long fights and super annoying AF if you can't kill his teamates fast and keeps poking in the backline.