Experimental Rye Polish Country Sourdough | Proof Bread

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  • @tonytony6031
    @tonytony6031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I gave this a go using your standard sourdough recipe for 2 loafs, but changed the hydration to 80% used 40% strong white 30% organic wholemeal 30% organic rye. 160gr of Harriet. Took a while to ferment, didn't rise as much in the oven, but the soft texture and flavour outstanding. Thank you for giving me the confidence to bake such a wonderful sourdough.

  • @jaydudek
    @jaydudek 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My inspiration is also from a trip to Poland to visit family. It truly needs to be shared. We are opening a bakery/deli in Northern Maine and hope to be able to share that Polish experience to others. Thanks for all the great videos, they are also part of my inspiration even before learning of your similar heritage. All the best, thank you!

  • @TrunkoZord
    @TrunkoZord ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Greetings from Poznan, Poland!! 🇵🇱 🇵🇱
    I watch every video of yours, even when you wanted to hire I thought of traveling to America! Thanks to you guys I started to bake my own sourdough bread! The journey is ecstatic and all my friends love the bread. All the love and support for you!!!

    • @davidec.4021
      @davidec.4021 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Super cool. Best of luck bro

  • @rithrall
    @rithrall ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm polish, and most of the common breads are 40-60% rye which 1/4 of this rye is wholemeal and rest is 750/850 wheat flour. I always bake mine 20% whole rye 20% 720 rye flour and 60% 750/850 wheat flour. Also breads here tends to have lot less hydration then typical "sourdough breads" trending on youtoube.

    • @Javajavajav
      @Javajavajav 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Polish rye I grew up with sounds like that. So good. Can get good Polish bread in some pockets of the US but not where I live. It's one reason I want to bake sourdough

  • @kennyvaas1336
    @kennyvaas1336 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Would have liked to see a tad more of the finished loaves. Looks good though!

    • @giuliolanny1373
      @giuliolanny1373 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A cut open and even taste testing

    • @ProofBread
      @ProofBread  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Completely understand this. We will definitely show this loaf again with those elements but it isn’t always possible to squeeze that into our shoots. These videos we make are after all not our primary work (rather it is running a bakery) and it is not always possible to wait around for a loaf to cool down.

  • @SmuddgerSmiff
    @SmuddgerSmiff ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We used to make country sourdough loaves of a similar size. We used a rye starter from our rye mother then used strong organic white flour to make the dough. It did produce a loaf similar to yours.
    Cracking effort my friend. I’ve loved watching your journey over the last few years! I hope to twist my wifes arm to visit one day, she used to live in Phoenix. 🏆👍❤️🌈

  • @tib0980
    @tib0980 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loving the frequent uploads!

  • @beadingrams
    @beadingrams ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jon, I love your videos! I've been watching them for a couple years and have learned a lot...but I've been making Sourdough breads for over 50 years. I have no way of tasting your beautiful bakes, but I can try and make my own...😅
    I followed this recipe for your experimental sourdough rye. Although my kitchen aid is a 1970's version,(yeah I'm older than dirt😂) it's made many loaves over the years. It's a 4.5qt., so I had to make two loaves at a time, so had to tweak the recipe for two loaves. So far so good...baked this morning. I should have baked in my Dutch oven 5 extra minutes then removed the lid and baked for an additional 15 min...it's delicious...almost perfect. It would be better with freshly milled grains. I'll try again.😋🥖

  • @AlexandraAndStuff
    @AlexandraAndStuff ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hey, I'm Polish! Did not know you have this history. Where did you visit? I didn't even realize that our sourdough is that different from yours. It's true, bread products are amazing in Poland, I appreciate if every time I'm abroad, and I bake my sourdough myself.
    Cheeers!

    • @troutjunkie7330
      @troutjunkie7330 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's from Poland, came here as a young kid. So did I. We lived in the same neighborhood

    • @AlexandraAndStuff
      @AlexandraAndStuff ปีที่แล้ว

      cool to know!@@troutjunkie7330

  • @catcy90
    @catcy90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So happy to see the new location! I can't wait to visit now that you're so much closer to me. Thanks for these videos, I've learned so much from you!

  • @marcinch3407
    @marcinch3407 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice to see Polish bread outside Poland. I remember the taste of polish bread and buns in 80"s and 90"s. I'd love to taste it again. Last time when I was in Poland I've asked old baker about recipe of them old buns "z przedzialkiem" and he said that recipe is not enough, the most important is old-fashioned bread oven powered by coal. You can still find them in small Polish villages. It'd be worth trying to find one if you go to Poland. And of course flour is not the same as then, straight from mill you can find lots of additives in the flour. That baker also said that when they changed coal powered oven to gas powered customers were asking if they changed the baker but baker and the way they were making their bread and buns was the same as always. I feel very sad that this trade is dying. Marcin

  • @piotrkuligowski2037
    @piotrkuligowski2037 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hi I`m from Poland and live in Wales UK when I make bred and remember always sourdough make from rye flour and remember my Friend father have still have sourdough from II World War

  • @yomz0r
    @yomz0r 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you crossbrace the table the Hobart is standing on it won't shake so much. Lovely video as always, a wealth of information!

  • @denisongolden8427
    @denisongolden8427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks great! Can't wait to try baking the recipe . Would like to see how your crumb turned out.

  • @irekklimczak3661
    @irekklimczak3661 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greetings from Gdynia, Poland! 🙌 Great job, the loaf looks legit. I'd totally buy one if I were in the area.

    • @krzysztof3652
      @krzysztof3652 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ciekawe widzieć że jeszcze jacyś inni Polacy oglądają ten kanał 😁

  • @karolstopinski8350
    @karolstopinski8350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you ask anyone moving from Poland to USA about one thing that they miss the most (at least foodwise) everyone will say bread. What in Poland is a normal bread here is considered artisan. As a kid i would buy a loaf of Oliwski bread and eat half of the bread crumb on the way back home from the bakery. My mom would yell at me for that each time but that never stopped me.

  • @tadeuszzasepa3285
    @tadeuszzasepa3285 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for sharing your passion. Try to bake it on a dried white cabbage leaf.

  • @BreonNagy
    @BreonNagy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Polish rye is literally the best bread on the planet.

  • @ClassALiving
    @ClassALiving ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This bread experimentation is fun to watch :) 🍞👍

  • @PhyllisGeorgic
    @PhyllisGeorgic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am in Western Pennsylvania a grandchild of Polish immigrants. I would love to have that large loaf. I have friends in Tucson. I try to encourage them to drive to Mesa for your bread.

  • @cachi-7878
    @cachi-7878 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No crumb shot? You’re killing me, Jon! 😂

  • @clixbits
    @clixbits ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Synchronicity! I've been playing with adding increasing amounts of Rye in the last 12 months.
    I settled on 40% but I also add some honey to the dough too.

  • @robertoingenitoiseppato6177
    @robertoingenitoiseppato6177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations... from Madrid (Spain)

  • @GodelEscherSpock
    @GodelEscherSpock ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aweome, seeing your experiments on video.
    Any idea When will we get to see the video for the slicings of the Cereal Milk and Polish Rye loaves?!

  • @siwy1382
    @siwy1382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greetings from Poland!

  • @laurademarrais3248
    @laurademarrais3248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love that mill. Tell me the name of the type available for non commercial uses, please?

  • @zeideerskine3462
    @zeideerskine3462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it would be fascinating to see a cooperation with Proof and Germany's Wildbakers or Axel Schmitt or maybe both.

  • @ingridkarm8922
    @ingridkarm8922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would of loved a shot of the bread cut open and tasted. Ive been on a rye baking journey for years, trying to recreate an Estonian Black bread that used to be available in Australia many years ago, unfortunately the recipe went with the baker to his grave.

  • @franz009franz
    @franz009franz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this looks like the acutal bread im familiar to, having a german/polish heritage.
    standard bread in both countries.

  • @EduardoMunoz-ye3nr
    @EduardoMunoz-ye3nr ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the laboratory you've set up. How many m2 do you have for it?

  • @pde442
    @pde442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video

  • @charlesbruggmann7909
    @charlesbruggmann7909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many West Europeans will be just as keen as anybody from further east. 🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭

  • @brokensprog
    @brokensprog ปีที่แล้ว

    needs a crumb shot and tasting! how'd this turn out flavor-wise!?

  • @lizbuckland4163
    @lizbuckland4163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love a scaled down recipe for this dough if you could? My local supermarket bakery in the uk used to do a Polish country loaf and it was their 2nd best seller according to the staff at the bakery but for some reason head office decided to stop doing it. I've been experimenting trying to recreate it, but this looks very much like it!

    • @ProofBread
      @ProofBread  ปีที่แล้ว

      We plan to offer the loaf in quarters and halves. 😊

    • @mhherr
      @mhherr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just take the measurements shown in the video and scale them as you prefer.
      4000 g water
      2000 g bread flour
      1500 g hard red wheat flour ("rouge bordeaux")
      1500 g whole grain rye
      1000 g starter
      125 g salt
      To make one 1000 g loaf, divide the numbers above by 10 and bake in a 9" banneton. Divide those numbers by 5 to make one 2000 g loaf in an 11"-12" banneton. Simple . . . that's the beauty of "baker's percentages".

  • @margielaughlin6056
    @margielaughlin6056 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you actually sift the rye or just mill very fine?

  • @davidsgreatadventures
    @davidsgreatadventures ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you would have finished this with cutting it open so we could see the crumb but either way they look great!

  • @jas57264
    @jas57264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YUUUUUUUMMMMM!!!!!!!!

  • @sunshinesunshine6043
    @sunshinesunshine6043 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Çok iyi👌👍

  • @elainebob5570
    @elainebob5570 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hair net?

  • @SeeNyuOG
    @SeeNyuOG ปีที่แล้ว

    Working with rye doughs is such a nightmare for me 😫

  • @c.thompson9771
    @c.thompson9771 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol, did your batteries expire on this one? Results with visuals would've assisted in understanding this fine attempt. Do it again, soft rye, or else, lol 😅

  • @B3tray2
    @B3tray2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance we could get recipe written down for us non US citizens than cant buy from you ?

  • @maxi-g
    @maxi-g ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice but it would be great to see you cut and taste it

  • @noc1891
    @noc1891 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is autolease?

    • @satkaramsingh20
      @satkaramsingh20 ปีที่แล้ว

      Autolyse!

    • @cachi-7878
      @cachi-7878 ปีที่แล้ว

      Auto lease is when you don’t buy a car, but rent it long term… 😊
      Autolyse is the period of time during which flour absorbs water to develop the gluten with no mechanical intervention beyond just mixing it initially. Strict autolyse consists of flour and water ONLY. It can last from 20 minutes to several hours, depending on which type of flour you are using.

  • @corinafilimon9907
    @corinafilimon9907 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤ i love sourdough bread but I don't know why ,second day my bread getting sooo hard,like a stone

    • @PhyllisGeorgic
      @PhyllisGeorgic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might need more hydration. Gooier dough to work with but moist longer

  • @KS-uv7yc
    @KS-uv7yc ปีที่แล้ว

    I very much like your videos. A friendly observation: when trying to work and talk you do both slowly...too slowly. Perhaps mix it up with a voice over some vid. I think the pace will pick up,

    • @dancingdog2790
      @dancingdog2790 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't notice but you're right, I generally watch at 1.5x-1.75x, and this was "unhurried" at 1.75x lol.

  • @jannadaniels911
    @jannadaniels911 ปีที่แล้ว

    soooo...am I supposed to watch the all video to see the recipe? the author takes his time to place the address, offers to shop for aprons, for lames etc, but the printed recipe is just not here ?

  • @StephanHoyer
    @StephanHoyer ปีที่แล้ว

    you need moar rye! 66% at least 😂

  • @fum00A
    @fum00A ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of a flat loaf. I'd like to see the crumb.

  • @raduama4929
    @raduama4929 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why don't you show the inside? very frustrating...

  • @sandgroper-ig9nk
    @sandgroper-ig9nk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come on we need to see the end results cut texture taste we hang around till the end only to be cut off

  • @BDTrooper76
    @BDTrooper76 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been a subscriber to Proof Bread for a few years now. I started maybe a year or more before you left the garage. Dzein Dobry. Jak zie mas? Nie jestem Polak. Moja zona jest Polkan, z Mazowsze. I'm very pleased to see you reaching back in your heritage for breads like this. While I have no Polish DNA, I do have a slight mix. I'm predominantly Irish, British, and Franco-German. That makes me an American mutt. While I most probably have less than 10% German heritage, the one bread that I greatly enjoyed is the German Schwarzbrot, the black bread. My brother went to Germany in the mid 1990s, and brought some of that bread home with him. I thought it was fantastic. I can't get any information on what the bread was, nor even what city it was purchased in, as my brother passed in '99. I live in northern California, so a drive to Mesa would be a bit of an adventure. I have tried going to independent bakeries around me, I have only found one that would bake me a schwarzbrot, and it did not taste anything like what my brother brought home. There was way too much rye flour in that bread. I'm stumped on how to find something similar.
    How should I continue trying to find a bread similar to what I seek? Do you have any suggestions?

    • @SurfDetector
      @SurfDetector ปีที่แล้ว

      Schwarzbrot is a wonderful bread made with rye flour and rye seeds. You should try your hand at making it. Here is a very good recipe that is easy to follow.
      th-cam.com/video/cHwLBs9SRd4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TrXUJJcWaS-pskQF

  • @김혜령-t5m
    @김혜령-t5m 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    어제 달마대사와김현주약사여래불이 흐리틱로샨 잡아먹었어요 뱃속에서 빼냈습니다 다시태어나게 공사 했고요 달마대사와 김현주 지옥에 보냈습니다

  • @brentprockert5679
    @brentprockert5679 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wondering if you are using a special slicer/brand to cut your loaves due to the thickness of the crust. WE have just been cutting by hand at our restaurant, but we are considering buying a commercial slicer. @proofbread