Majority of Serbs are against NATO more than anything. Of course there's a long history between Serbia and Russia because of religion and support and that will always be there.
Of course it is true. Serbia and Russia have a lot of things in common, for example: -they have war criminal which are called "heroes" by brainwashed and people goes proud of them -they make genocide on civils and disarmed people , also raping women other countries is normal for them -they call "terrorist" everyone who don't think like them -the don't have a real opposition party in their county -their government control all the media to share easy their propaganda. -they blame NATO for every stupid decision make by their politician -they don't change the president for all life time -their president are the richest man in their country -their president decide who should live and who passed away -they always try to invade or destabelize counties near them -the level of corruption is very very high in this countries. -often their church mix religion with politic for political purpose Should I add more?
@@RandomAmerican304 from the perspective of a brainwashed American. What can you expect from a person who has never seen war? Maybe you should get educated on the opposite side of the NATO interventions in Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Serbia and Iraq, challenge your views and then come preach to us about your great values. Besides, when it's war in America, it's another sunny day in Washington D.C. You cannot even fathom what your country has done in the rest of the world.
Can some1 tell why is it in 1999 we were in the 20th century also can any1 tell me why in 1990 was it called the 20th century and not the 19 hundred & 90th century and what is it now that we made it 2 ///2022 please explain////imso confused
@@thurbine2411 so 1900 was excluded because we leaped IN2 the millennial excluding the 19th century completely because a 1000 yrs mark ?I'll look that up thankyou
You say that here. It is too bad racial generalizations are forbidden in youtube. Let just say that if it was a Serb from the Swedish army in a fox hole with me and the russiacels were on the opposite side... you know.
I think it’s important to understand that the world isn’t black and white. There is no ‘good’ and ‘evil’. There is only your experiences. The experiences of Serbs is that NATO bombed them whilst Russia helped them. I’m a pole, and our experiences are that Russia oppressed us whilst NATO secured us independence, or atleast protection in a way in which we can be sovereign and rule ourselves freely. Neither of these views are inherently wrong, and that’s why the world is so messy.
Serbia was bombed for a reason. Serbia doesn’t have oil so NATO didn’t bomb them for some oil but bc they were committing ethnic cleansing right after committing genocide
"The experiences of Serbs is that NATO bombed them..." I understand that, but NATO didn't just wake up one morning and say: "Let's go bomb the Serbs today." The very important context of what led to bombing Belgrade wasn't addressed by anyone interviewed in this well done documentary; and they likely would not recognize the reason(s) anyway.
@@marko.rankovic i think you assumed i'm american, i'm slovenian and i was aiming twoards srebrenica and similar events. Also serbia isn't really the catalyst of social-welfare either
@@milano9808 ever considered voting for politicians who would rescind the application? If you keep electing politicians who do s**t you don't like you can only blame yourselves, and if you keep electing them because you secretly agree with the application & simply can't admit it to the people around you, grow a f***ing spine.
I am Serbian and idk what to feel about this situation it's like two friends are fighting and u cant spot them.... Lets be clear i love Russian people and i like Ukrainians then never did anything bad to my people but u need to know that this war didnt start in 2022 it started in 2014 where was western politicians all this time?
@@ht-mm2elOh, that old carrot on a rod story? They wouldn't have bombarded us if they ever considered us part of their world, would they? Europe has encouraged the exodus of 250 000 Serbs from Croatia in 1995, an equal number from Bosnia in 1992. and from Kosovo and Metochia in 2004, without batting an eye and nobody was pleading over our victims nor property, nor historical monuments and treasures being robbed, burned down and scattered all over the world. Who had ever said that Serbs are willing to join EU??? It is not our choice that EU is in habit of installing the marionette governments that fake the picture of winning in democratic elections, so that they would ease your purchase of our industry for peanuts, while pretending to be generous in doing so.
I am a Serb and I pray for peace, stability and that our friends, the Eastern Slavs, function properly again and that they are no longer misled by the great powers!🙏💪🏼🇺🇦🇷🇺
There’s no such absolute love for Russia but anti-NATO rather. Those who love Russia in Serbia are under the influence of Russian propaganda including yourself, even forgetting what actually happened in the past.
And Putin saw the threat of NATO in Ukraine. Zelenksy himself was saying they wanted nuclear capability and to join NATO. Russia has the right to defend itself.
@@PRubin-rh4sr What about when the narrator in this documentary sarcastically and snarkly says "Russia has already won over their hearts and minds" at 14:21? 🙂
Interesting documentary. I value the Serbs for trying to remain independent and not be pressured by any other powers. However I am not impressed with hearing that the USA warned Serbia against purchasing Chinese weapons. Its none of their business and certainly hypocritical to start warning independent nations about what they can and can not do. My thoughts are that the EU will never let Serbia in whilst the people are not pro EU. Stay independent and carve your own path.
It is perfectly normal for one sovereign country (US) to explain the ramifications of another sovereign country (Serbia) over it's policy decisions, particularly concerning weapons purchases This is called Diplomacy and seeks to minimize surprise when decisions are made.
That path will be poverty, like Russia’s path. Modern economy requires respect for international law and human rights. Serbia is not independent, but guilty of genocidal crimes, and a pawn of Russia.
@@rdsc.455 China uses it's diplomatic muscle in more open and transparent manner. Australia correctly asked for an independent enquiry over the origins of Covid 19, and got hit by trade sanctions Many countries such as the UK have welcomed the Dali Llama and seen China put them in the Diplomatic deep freeze Lithuania dared welcome a Taiwan trade delegation, trade sanctions. So, the possibility or likelihood of a Chinese military base in close proximity is very likely to incur Diplomatic concern
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA Natürlich die Deutsch grünen vollidoten ein Volk was momentan untergeht... aber naja das ist halt so wenn man ein Vasal des Imperiums ist wird man als erstes geopfert.. vielleicht macht die neutrale DeutscheWelle eine doku einmal darüber in 50 jahren vielleicht?
@@saramarija21 LOL, doesn't represent Serbian people? Are you Serbian? Did you forget the unilateral NATO bombings of Yugoslavia? Some people are naive. Serbia is Russia's ally because actions speak louder than words, they fought for Serbians while the west killed Serbians. There's no moral bullsh*t about it... of course they were gonna stand with Russia instead of hypocrites. Many people lost their families.
As a Serb I must say how impressed I am of the objectivity of this video, bearing in mind it comes from DW ;) The pros and cons have been explained quite well. Though the main focus was mainly on emotions and logic behind it, but very little about economic reasons (our banking is 100% Western, and energy is 100% Russia dependent, the fact we have been promissed eu membership for 20 years now and nothing came of it.). Also, our close ties with the French have not been mentiomed, as vast majority of next set of military equipment (mailny fighter jets) will come from them. Also, the stance toward Russia we have due to energy dependency can also be seen in some of the EU members such as Hungary, Czech republic etc. So this is in a way a good video, but it stick to the very shallow / simplified ways of looking at things. Real life is never a Hollywood movie with clear bad and good guys.
Energy dependence does not make u support war crimes against a neighbouring country U may continue trading oil if ua conscience allows u that , but don't make statements blaming the victim if aggression
As for the EU's promise: you will not be accepted until you meet the accession criteria, and that depends only on Serbia. If you allow Russia to meddle in the country's affairs (I'm sure Russia is funding the pro-Russian protests), you won't be any closer.
@@almac9203 aren't you escaping the complexity of what happened? it was immoral and illegal what they were doing. both Serbia and NATO, even though the first did way worse. yet, you somehow ignore that part
@@pavlissimus NATO were stopping a genocide. Serbia was committing ethnic cleansing and war crimes. NATO was simply preventing further crimes against humanity. Many people were grateful for the intervention.
1. In the beginning of the report, the narrator mentioned that Serbian airlines still fly to Russia. However, the narrator failed to inform that air Serbia has been receiving bomb threats on the planes daily from the start of the war. Later, they began to receive calls of bombs set in schools and day cares all around the cities in Serbia. Serbian president says the calls come from Ukraine. 2. RT is banned in the USA (unlike the lady mentioned, maybe her kids found a way to get around it) 3. A lot of Russians panicked and fled Russia in the beginning of the war. However, they say 80% of them returned due to difficulty assimilating and brutal discrimination they are facing (regardless of their position on the war) just because they are Russians
Вы всё правильно написали, всё так и есть. 1. Подобными звонками занимается специальное подразделение армии современной Украины, так называемое ЦИПсО, состоящее из нескольких подразделений и ведущее кибервойну против России в социальных сетях, СМИ, используются финансовые мошеннические схемы. Очень много денег было украдено у доверчивых российских граждан именно посредством телефонного грабежа. Причем война ведется давно, началась задолго до 2013 года. Обучают подразделения НАТО и Mи6. 3. Именно так, запаниковали, испугались, а не потому что русские на стороне Украины. Россия имеет самый мощный ядерный потенциал, в самом начале военного конфликта люди испугались именно этого. Страх перед ядерной войной на территории России. Но когда стало понятно, что время идет, конфликт только локальный, а запасы наличной валюты заканчиваются, то смысла оставаться вне дома нет. Вот и поехали домой.
Serbian president's close people made those bomb threats so he has a reason to sanction Russia. There were like 150 threats and none of them turned out to be true, and if they were made by Ukrainians, those Ukrainians surely wouldn't say its from them lmao. He wants to turn to the west and his nation adores Russia so he tries to fool them all
The Balkans has been ravaged by imperialism for 500 years. The Turks occupied and caused misery here for a long time. Since the Turks were expelled, the main imperial force has been Serbia (with the backing of their Russian masters).
I am amazed how realistic this report is ! Good job! Very objective ! ( I'm saying this because I'm from Serbia so I am quite aware of the situation ) Thank you for not demonizing and for trying to explain why some people are the way they are.
DW if funded directly by tax payer, it has its own provision in the law so it doesnt have any supervision from the German government, more like BBC but just better. I just paid 110 Euros for that, so you are welcome :)
Oh, really? So you're saying it's not like the Serbian media, or even better, the Russian state TV which demonises and lies about the West... I didn't even mention how you're fond of the Bosniaks or Kosovars...
What is insanity NATO dropping bombs on Serbians Serbian: I hate NATO for dropping bombs on us Putin dropping bombs on Ukrainians Serbian: I support Putin and Russia
People so easy use Genocide as word. When talking about wars in all Yugaslavia,you always forget that in all counries except Slovenia lived a lot of Serbs. And now, you can’t count them
@@bilic8094 Yes! 700 000 people, including over 100 000 children. And no one in the west talks about it. They didnt care about true, they only care about their agenda in wich we were chosen to be the bad guys. Unfortunately i see that their people believed in that propaganda.
I think you forgot a very important thing: Bombardment of depleted uranium kills Serbs even today. There is no family that has not lost someone from cancer ... Before the bombing, few people had heard of the disease. Is that NATO's purpose?
@@Pitera2140 The bombing was still unjustified (both because they bombed civilians and because NATO countries did not vote for that bombing to occur) and also "eye for an eye" is not a good principle 💀💀
No so true it kills everyone what about the soldiers and aid workers police from all over the world which was providing support for the civilians Russian peace keeping troops was also deployed I think mental health and chronic illnesses attributed to the balkans there could be a lot of cases all over the world I could still imagine there are lots of unexploded ordinance and land mines I hope peace in Balkans continues ❤️
It's funny, more and more people actually want OUT of the EU. Come next winter, it's gonna be very interesting to see you guys struggle just to get warm 🤣😂
@@dp-by1wg LOL have you ever heard of a small place called Finland? Maybe Sweden? Pretty formiddable militaries, decent economies. + they already use the euro currency if im not mistaken. Alot of member states are b*tching about all & nothing since the new mandatory 2%gdp military spending but its for all the right reasons! Edit: typo
@@dp-by1wg russian gas had one advantage, it was cheap, europe has the money and Will buy from somewhere else. Money can buy you anything, there are so many options if you gave the money, dont worry europe Will give it to someone else to have what it wants
@@darenzy Tell me 6000 murdered Bosnians is not enough for you? Thats why your government and majority of Serbians support the mass murder and genocide of the Ukrainian nation? NATO was right and it has brought peace. Now if your people think its better with Putin, then become a Balkan North Korea and dont bother with EU. Keep out of Greece, we don't want Putin's pawns here.
@@Giorg189 I Agree. Milosevic was a war criminal. And yet the bombing nato did was Illegal! In order to intervene ( Nato ) is required by its charted for a UN security council vote. This didnt happen. Neither in Iraq war or in this instance.
Serbian brothers. As a Belgian I am deeply ashamed of what happened to the citizens during the bombings. I have never felt at home so much in a country as when I spent some weeks in Serbia with my wife. If it weren't for my good job back home, would instantly move to Belgrade. Country is developing extremely quickly due to having good relations with most world powers. People are super welcoming and friendly. City is absolutely stunning and safe. Love Serbia.
Lol Serbia is not Belgrade & they are being ran by a dictator who destroyed all the institutions and you judge them by cheap drinks and cevapi lol. Ps you should know that Serbia supported four years of bombing of Sarajevo for example, they should have been bombed in 1992.
I hate the russians, i’m very sadistic about thinking of their tank turrets getting blown off and vaporised in Ukraine. I can’t say i hate them all, but 80% of them
I am Croatian. My father was a soldier, he was killed in the war with the Serbs, because they thought it was a good idea to send tanks against foot soldiers. And so Serbian tanks obliterated them. I am saying this because I know there are peaceful and kind people in Serbia. I met them, I laughed with them, I admired them. Some of them are my family. My sympathies go to all those compassionate Serbs who are forced to live among such deranged sociopaths. Hang in there brethren, these people belong to the past, and that's where they're going! Zivjeli!
Says the guy who's nation had only concentration camps for children,killed one million Serbs in WW2, expelled God knows how many,and again in 1990s expelled 300k and killed around 3000. Yes great comment. Plus not to mention that you are catholic Serbs...
Yeah, lets all forget how peacefull croats almost killed that boy from macedonia in Split before everything. And how serbs stors and houses simply blew up in the middle of night and certan number of serbs dissapired mistiqly. Or how we all watched on tv trucks crossing from Hungary with guns bought by Tudjman. Its more easy to just blame the serbs
Nobody from Serbia sent tanks in Croatia..Croatia was just part of Yugoslavia, which was a federation where federal units did not have rights to declare indenpendence without agreement of all units, that Constitutional law said in 1974..So, indenpendence of Croatia and Bosnia was secessions from Yugoslavia..Yugoslav army was the military unit you fought against and Serbs in Croatia who were constitutional ethnic group in federal unit called Croatia..So please, explain me what is a difference between Croatia and Donbas today..both are result of secession
@@sasadelic1988student First of all, learn historical facts. Every country in Yugoslavia had a constitutional right to become independent. And stop conveniently forgetting other countries, namely Slovenia, Herzegovina, Macedonia, etc. that also wanted out from the idea of Great Serbian Empire. So, if you want to spread Serbian hegemonic ideas, go back to where people want to listen to them. Namely, the CURRENT and forever borders of Serbia. You know, those borders you actually can hold with your water pistol equipped army.
As a proud Serb, there is one thing I noticed in this video that bothers me a lot….. every Serb I know takes their shoes off when coming into a house yet all these “Serbs” Wear shoes in house…. Doesn’t feel authentic LMAO
Aleksa Grbovic's statement at 10:30 is the most truthful statement surrounding serbs and the controversies they face. No matter what evil that government perpetuated, NATOs response to target civilians while supposedly standing for democracy, peace, and freedom is the direct cause of so much pain and continued disdain for the west in the eyes of many serbs and it is 100% comparable to the way ukrainians feel right now. Thats the key element in this whole comparison, Ukraine is in an extremely similar situation to where Serbia was 20 years ago, the difference is who the west is supporting.
NATO did not target civilisations in the bombardment of Serbia in 1999. This is a lie that many serbs are repeating again and again to victimize themselves and present themselves as just victims . Yes it’s true that civilians were killed that unfortunately was inevitable just like in every war . The bombardment of Serbia was completely justified. It was a war that was going on since 1991 . You need to look at the situation from the inside. Ukraine is facing a full scale invasion not just bombardment. It’s totally different situation.
@@st3019 you are completely incorrect, the Kosovo war and the Croatian/Bosnian civil wars in Yugoslavia were completely different conflicts. They occurred around the same time and concerned the same main participants, but the war was not "going on since 1991", the Kosovo war lasted from February 1998 to June 1999. You have no credit here to discuss what is a lie and what is truth when you can't even get the basic timeline of events right. The reality is that while they were hitting government and military infrastructure primarily (that is true) they were still greatly targeting civilian areas, hospitals, trains, infrastructure in order twist their wrist and to force the Serbian government to bend. It wasn't just civilian bystanders that happened to be killed, there were targeted attacks and specific civilian centers and locations were hit as a means to force a surrender. My point isn't whose side was right or wrong in the conflict or to make "victimize" Serbs (though the civilians were undoubtedly victims just the same way that Albanian civilians were victims of the Serbs) my point is that America is a hypocritical beast that chooses who and what to bomb when it suits them, they choose what is a crime and what isn't when it suits them, and they cannot pretend to stand up for peace and human rights when they both perpetuate war and violate human rights.
@@lazarzivkovic3393 When I said “ the war was going on since 1991” , I didn’t mean only about Kosovo war . I meant Yugoslavian wars which already had started since 1991 . Serbia was in control of all yougoslavian army resources . It’s hard to imagine that what happened would had lasted for 8 years if Serbia didn’t want war . Even in Kosovo situation was very tense and repressive since 1989 . War in Croatia and Bosnia are called just “ civil wars “ but these wars woudn’t have happened if Serbia didn’t want to happen. I know the reality in the field is more complicated. My point was to say that it’s not the same situation with what is going on today in Ukraine. Ukraine is not doing what serbian army and militia were doing in Kosovo. Russia is not in Ukraine to defend Russians as Putin says but to stop integration of Ukraine into the west and return Ukraine under russian influence.It’s not the same
Serbs slaughtered 100k Bosnians and then it was time to take it out on Kosovo. Remember you fought wars in Slovenia, and Croatia as well. You had tons of ex Yugoslavian weapons and your next target was Kosovo. Nato tried to avoid another Bosnia, or Ruanda by bombing your infrastructure and not civilians. Not sure where you are getting your facts, russian tv? It amazes me that Serbs play the victim card here. Such a shame that you will never move forward with this and will always look back to some fake history moment to justify your believes. Your country is run by a guy who sniped civilians in Sarajevo, who controls your media.
I also wondered about that statement... i am from austria and here are so many serbians so how can austria be the enemy??? no wonder serbia is a failed state
@@dariusweisz7440 Obviously you don't know that the first countries which recognized Croatia as a state were Germany and Austria. Some things never change.
@@dc2288Look through the comments, there's one by me that might raise your interest in something you obviously don't know...there's great and dark history hidden behind cheap and manipulative stories like this film is...
Imagine Germans making a doco on Serbs right after they halved their population in two world wars and ravaged their capital city for three times in the last 100 years
@@ShadowStrikerTheLoneWolf The reasons behind, do not matter. Either you are pro Russian, or you are not. If your brother commits a crime and kills another, you should punish him, even though you are brothers. The crime has been committed, you are still brothers, but you cannot say "I stand with my brother" and not agree that your brother deserves the conviction.
Some corrections and explanations: Serbs didn't accept Russian propaganda as self value but didn't buy Western propaganda as such. Serbs know wery well what means propaganda as felt on their own skin long time ago. Serbs were not killing Albanian citizens in 1999 but were dealing with Albanian terrorists. Trained, financed and supported by US and allies (read Nato). Thats why Serbia sufferd the bombing in order Kosovo to be taken under their control and the biggest military US base in Europe set up there. The newspapers "Danas" are pro western and they support official anti Russian narrative that is why people comment bad their articles on social media. Why Serbs support Russia? Because Serbs has experienced all this situation of fake news and western propaganda, the manuel they use is the same for any occasion. In the years of 90' the Serbs were satanized as bad guys and agressors by all media around the world, Serbia suffered severe sancions and economy damadges, high inflation, its history and coulture were cancelled everywhere. So all this that Russian people is now going trhrough was seen in Serbia so no way mass media under western control will make Serbs believe their stories. Also knowing wery well Russian historic deeds as always being on the right side fighting the thirrany and helping liberation of Serbia made deep bonds. For the difference of those who started more than 30 wars and killed millions of people worldwide, now are talking about the democracy and agression. As being more attached to traditional values nurtured in Russia then perverted ones of EU, for the Serbs is more natural to be pro Russia than wanting to become EU member as not seeing any good values and place there. Also not trusting those who bombed its cities killing ordinary citizens for 72 days in 1999. Serbs see well that this conflict has little to do with Ukraine but the same those who are using Ukraine for their interest and pushing them into the war. The same ones were training and financing Ukranian nazi movements as they did with terrorists in Kosovo. This is the conflict of those standing for the souvereignty and justice and those who wants to dominate the whole world. Russia is the stone they fell upon. Unfortunately war conflict was inevitable but could be over if the same peacemakers want to but they don't because they don't care for people's lives but only their own interest.
Yet u buy your own serbian propaganda? U can lie all u want, all the normal countries know very well what happend and if anything close does again you will get bombed to ashes.
Well - Serbia doesn't seem to have good relationship with Croatia, either. Croatians hate Serbians and Serbia for what they have done to them and their families between 1991 to 1995 war. Why don't you mention the crimes you've done against Croats ? Because you did to other countries what Russia does to Ukraine.
NATO did not she'll the fuck out civilian houses or shot civilians or fired non guided weapons. Russia is firing thousands of unguided rockets per day using illegal cluster bombs on civilian population shooting civil service dead in the street shooting at civilian cars after the pass a Russian checkpoints to flee. How can anyone defend what Russia is doing. They are as bad as ISIS where they need to build lots of mass graves to bury all the murders they have committed look at the satellite photos in Russia control areas around 7 large mass graves have been found with upto 1000 bodies this is not including the mass graves found with 5 to 50 bodies that have been uncovered on reclaimed land where upto around 100+ of small mass graves have been found
The last guy talking about Serbian weapons shifting to NATO is just wrong. Serbia is not trying to shift to NATO standards but mantain a balance of weaponry so to make both sides happy. At the end the strategic stuff is still Russian and Chinese only minor equipment is from some NATO countries like france
@@kaimanyu586 putin would let the Serbs die like he is killing his neighbours and his own troops for an unjust war in the 21st century disgusting narrative 🤮🤮
I am educated man in Serbia. Russia didn't bomb us. Russia helped us many times in history so you maybe now understand. I want peace, we are supporting Ukrainian independence. Russia is doing similar to NATO, difference is they fight in area where are living Russian people
NATO supported the Serbian province of Kosovo' Independence, Serbia disagreed, NATO bombed Serbia (1998-1999), forcing them to accept, so the Serbs hated NATO.
Well now... Narator explained that NATO bombed Serbia because we were mass killing kosovo albanians and that Serbia broke peace talks. None of that is truth. Serbia was fighting terorists and separatist albanians. NATO helped them on field, trained them in Albania and gave them weapons finally using them as ground troops(sounds familiar) . Than when Serbian police and military defeated those terorists NATO came to help by bombarding Serbia for 78 days(again sounds familiar) . Peace talks before war were western sharade where Serbs had to surrender and sign what ever USA wanted. Siria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libia, Vietnam etc, democracy by USA & NATO bombing. So we love Russia, we hate US government and NATO.
Or maybe they bombed you because you had sooooo much blood on your hands from other countries and you simply didn't intent to stop. This narrative of yours is disgusting.
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Instead of spreading negative campaign and propaganda against Serbia, West should try to do something to attract our country on its side. If you think that pressure and hate will influence Serbs to do something against their will you should read something about history. Please leave us alone and fight your own wars. When you bombed us for 78 days just 20 years ago in the heart of Europe we had zero support. We don't need anything, just leave us alone and respect our neutrality. Otherwise this is as you are expecting that abused one is getting marry to a abuser. This is not possible. Peace to all. P.S. those protestants supporting Russia are like 0000.1 of Serbian society.
Problem is that this comment section is filled with croats, bosniaks and albanians who purposly try to make serbia look bad for what they did in the 90s. Theyre just here to hate on serbs, nothing else, they dont have anything better to do. Whats even worse theyre making fun of the nato bombings....
@@duruarute5445 In your opinion. Your opinions dont = facts. Were you there to vitness it?? No. Did you see Serbs kill civillians??? No. Did you vitness a genocide?? No. So then dont write it of as facts, and try to manipulate shit. As she said up top, mind your own business and dint worry about Serbia. Serbia is not yours to command.
I am and I have been hard-core pro European Union. However, to try to explain the situation in Serbia I will explain the situation in North Macedonia, where I am from. North Macedonia, changed its name because Greece vetoed its path to EU accession. After it changed its name, instead of Greece now Bulgaria vetoes Macedonia's accession in the EU. The question arises, how can we trust the EU? Is the EU a reliable entity to engage with and be trusted or it is just another manipulation? When I say the EU am think of the two most influential countries Germany and France. What should North Macedonia do in order for Bulgaria not to veto its accession in the EU? Do you think this produces trust for Serbia or anyone else?
The EU is just a tool of foreign policy for the United States. If you enter the EU you get some economic benefits, but you surrender all independence to the USA to manipulate as they want.
@@ClaxiuxIt is misleading to think that a small country like Macedonia, no matter if it is a member of the EU or not, can have an independent foreign policy. As time passes the power in the Balkan region is shifting in the west's direction so the the region has only one option and that is EU integration. However, the point I want to make is that the leaders of the EU, and that is Germany and France are not prepared for the burden and responsibility of European leadership. I want to strongly criticize them, and point to their incompetence. I expect a greater engagement from their side and greater support for my country.
What must Macedonia do? Accept what Bulgaria is asking just like you accepted what Greece asked., As you said, you are small country and insiginificant in the gran scheme of things. France and Germany are influental and leaders but also they cannot accept North Macedonia that has conflicts with its neighbors. Before you enter the EU you have to clear it out with Bulgaria and whatever misunderstandings you have. After all Bulgarians did the same when they entered EU and had to do everything that was asked from them. Macedonians dont want to do what is asked of them- instead they act as if its everyone else's fault. Clear things with Bulgaria and stop asking nonsensical questions.
Im Romanian and while I like Serbs and think we always had very good relations historically.... I still dont think that Hate for NATO (which in this case I dont condemn) is a justification for believing or participating in the Demonization of Ukraine and Ukrainians.... Please... you cant be serious, claiming to be Christian , this guy.... no, thats not the way.
@Ruslan Katsyuryna We already have experience with Russian ways...and while were mostly Good-ish during the Tzars (not completely but mostly)... it was all bad after Lenin and Stalin.
Huge injustice was done to us and we shall have our vengeance in this way or in the other. While "noble' Western world recognizes Crimea as part of Ukraine they refuse to recognize Kosovo as part of Serbia.While they support Ukraine to defend its territory they don't support Serbia.They say we don't have the right to defend our people and territory. West opened the Pandora's box in Yugoslavia.What we have today in Ukraine are the consequences.If they can basically steal a part of an independent country, then Russia can do the same.Tomorrow it will be someone else.Either we have anarchy or we don't have it.
@@Stef-m8l Since Trump they openly stated they want to stop having troops everywhere as its simply a waste of lives and resources. But this is not a contest of which Christians are better, when I wrote Christian I actually was referring to the reality of our parts, close by. So called Orthodox , like Putin... a former KGB guy, with a puppet "patriarch" that treats church like a warmonger battle priest to push Kremlin narratives (propaganda). So called Slavs killing Slavs under the pretext that the other slavs are actually nazis.. Sure there are nationalist edgy characters in all nations, but Ukraine far right parties received 2% of votes...seems its not a big thing in Ukraine in general, there are other countries with far more than that, so in other words Russia could make that claim and attack almost any other country... Then I look at "liberating cities from nazis" and I look at cities like Mariupol... they (Russia) deleted that city off the face of the earth, how is that liberation? There were civilians there also not all had left. But here is the truly "weird" part...the port of Mariupol was not hit, left intact... you want to know why ? I think you know it deep down why... this is no liberation from "nazis", this is Land Grab . That port would be very useful in future, if they manage to keep it of course...
The Serbs trust Russian media more than western reporting!!! This documentary is not objective, it forgets to mention that the Serbs tried to overrun the rest of the old Yugoslavia for 5 years, killing just like Russia is doing now. Only after NATO stepped in did this war stop and Milosovic was taken to court, just like Putin should now.
Russian fascists in Karabakh, Chechnya, Syria, Georgia, Kazakhstan did the same thing - they raped women and children and killed them with particular cruelty ..... everywhere the emphasis on the murders of Russians is the same Zzzz Zzz Zz Z
According to history, Kosovo was once belonging to Yugoslavia, NATO intended to separate Yugoslavia into several units, the so-called 'NATO bombing campaign‘ was actually not approved by ‘’UN security counsel', it was NATO's invasion of Yugoslavia to bomb Serbian civilian infrastructure and people inside it(NATO used penetrating bomb). In the situation, 'Kosovo Albania' to Yugoslavia was like 'Donbas ethnic Russian' to Ukraine today, NATO's invasion of Yugoslavia under name of ’NATO bombing campaign‘ was like Russia's invasion of Ukraine under name of 'Russia special military operation' today, and Milosevic of Yugoslavia was in the same position as Poroshenko of Ukraine today. The awareness of history makes people wise, we can know that Russia is exactly learning what NATO did in history, if NATO blames what Russia does now, it is like something that 'NATO blames what NATO did'.
@6:20 “we did not know if NATO will bomb us” - yes, it was hard to imagine that one of European capital can be bombarded in 21 centuries. But yet, YOU DID IT! And yes, we will not forget or forgive to you!
@@morkael5546 Destruction of SFR Yugoslavia was not done randomly. It was western plan to destroy country that was real sovereign country (unlike todays EU members countries). Back in 1949 Yugoslavia shot down two USA airplanes after many complains to not fly over Yugoslavia sky. After destroying aircrafts and killing crew, USA outlets was outrage and demanding dropping atomic bomb to Belgrade. You had to wait for next 50 years to fulfil plans of destroying country that was not agree to be western (USA more precisely) satellite.
@@javaskin You actually don't because your "defensive alliance" did the same thing to us, that Russia is doing to Ukrainie right now. If you knew what shame is, you would just stay quiet when it comes to Serbia.
Dream on, The Greeks declared the age of "THE END OF ALL WARS" in 825 BC. Get a gun and support your countries military or you will be a slave someday if you lucky.
20:25 Serb: the nation comes first, then my club... Interviewer: so Serbia comes first, then Red Star Belgrade Serb: NO no... Russia first, then Serbia, then my local club Interviewer: understandable Me: wow, just WOW
Obvious that he was high on some bad rakia, or the fact that his football team sucks 😝. Jokes aside, it is a sad fact that a part of older generations here in Serbia view the communist (ex sfrj) and then the socialist (ex srj state) with rose-tinted glasses. Especially in the SRJ the relations with Russia where thriwing. I remember that it was all over the new that then Russian president Boris Jelcin would send the army to assist Serbia during the NATO bombing. Even after, the current president Vucic , whos votes depend on the pensioners and people aged above 60, has supported the narative that Russia a "brotherly nation", with Putin attending several army festivals. So to be clear the pro-russian narative has been going on for a very long time, not to the extent that a cadual serbian watches Russia Today ok daily basis, but still it is there. Up side is that the younger people have acess to more information and are able to make up their minds without the propaganda affecting them.
And that is example of biased journalism and propaganda. Let's find a village idiot, and present him as an average citizen, making him stereotype of a nation for decades. And then you say WOW, but in reality you're the same as interviewed person, devoid of any capability for critical thinking.
SERBIAN AND Russian they have the same mind only them who are the best good if they will look what Russia are for the long time they up to now occupied 20 country's and oppress them now they use them in war like pig for meat in second war Russian kill a lot of polish Ukrainian and people there remember what are they today they doing the same like hitler with CZECHOSLOVAK republic if Russia will not attack Poland we don't know how will be war world to end up they are who are responsibility for this mess partly
The problem is "Crimes of Serbian troops" and even on this television they admited that they lied about Rachak,and crimes in there.so pls if you mention crimes you need to mention crimes of Albanians and ,,Yellow House" where Serbians were brutaly murdered.
I'm Romanian and I like Serbia and the Serb people. You have been a true friend for us in this region. However in this situation you should not support Putin's war as he attacked Ukraine (another slavic and Orthodox country). This war brings misery to both Russians and Ukrainians and nobody wins. As Orthodox Christians we should love and respect one another not fight over lands. Ukrainians and Russians are like brothers regardless of politics. слава Богу ☦
As a Serb, I'm very pleased with this documentary, shows how regular people really feel about this war. I'm honestly neutral and I want this war to be ended ASAP. Živela Ukrajina, živela Rusija! 🇷🇸🤝🇷🇺🇺🇦
I had been brainwashed by the West media to believe that Nazi belongs to Germany and hated the Jews. It's ironic to see the same zionist Israel supporting Nazi sympathizers in, Israel, Germany, Poland, Serbia, Ukraine, USA, UK, and Scandinavia.
Now you wonder why Poland became the first Slavic country to recognise Kosovo as an independent state. For us, we are not against Serbia, but we found their love for Russia so poisonous.
Well hang on a second if your fine with that then you will have no problems in recognising Donass region as Russian. Stick to your decision and don't change it.
Poland has a history of heroism. If not for Poland, all of Europe might have fallen to Islamic enslavement. NATO was very wise to rapidly accept Poland as a member state.
One thing EU won't allow Serbia to join, they learned when they allowed Slovakia and Hungary to join. It's a house where if you all agree to move right, 3 Eastern European countries will move left. It has really harmed the harmony that existed between the Union. I am sure it was a loop hole that made UK to fed up with the Union. One thing I can tell you, Serbia n like to complain, even on the smallest matters. With EU strong grip am sure they will be leaving after 2 years.
I think its factually incorrect to think Vucic created the Public that is strongly supporting Russia. Serbs felt pro-Russian before Vucic when I was there in 2004 already. Interesting Mr Velebit carries the name of a mountain plateau in Croatia as a surname, maybe a Serb originating from Lika/Krajina?
Yeah. When there was Yugoslavia, the public supported both the U.S.S.R and the U.S. Yet after the NATO bombings of Serbia (1999), public support obviously went towards Russia.
We are simply born into it. Our parents are mostly more or less pro Russian. So naturally their kids tend to be as well. We are taught russians are our biggest friends and those ties should be preserved. And after nato attacks, that sentiment is even stronger. And I'm okay with that :)
@@gasergaser8629 There was no ban. I just talked to a refugee from Odessa. She is Ukrainian and speakes Russian, here and back home - no problem. There is a law to move the schooling in Ukrainian language, for the superior grades, true. But this is not a ban on language. It is not good, I find it very unfair too, but this does not deserve the killings.
I have friend from Serbia, who was like this. Supporting Russia. So he went to Russia for a study. In about year and half he came back to Serbia and never wanted to speak of Russia again. He was treated like a shit. People were mocking him as some less person. I remember Russians in Czechoslovakia who were acting the same way. Looking down on other nations.
The Russians consider themselves as the big brothers of the ”lesser slavs”. Thats central in their world view and task of unifying all slavs under their banner.
I had a friend in the USA with the same experience. His name was Mikael Vintoniv. He was half Russian and half Serbian. Hope he is doing well. Great dude!
@@Mrbriangalvan Not sure what does that have to do with my comment. I am saying that my friend had the same experience when he visited family in Russia. He told me he was treated like a dog. After that, he traveled the world and I met him because if another friend from Boston while I was in the US. He was a very interesting guy but we parted ways. i haven't heard from him in a very long time.
We are slaws !!! We are orthodox! We have always supported each other! Because of our ancestors who gave their life in both great wars ,because we are beautiful people,because we have rich and ancient culture ,because NATO bombed my country for 78 days, because of mother Russia ! Because Russia and Serbia stand together against west imperialism ! Because 1/3 of Serbia men gave their life just in ww1 ! Because 28 countries bombed us ,and we were under sanctions,people were dying starving,and waiting in the lines for a bread ,because West hate us both! Because we hate them ! " Because we have Princip!!!! Because ....because .. becauseeee....
Just for context at the end, the mural with Putin originally spelled "Брат" which means brother, but the 'Б' has been painted over leading it to spell "Рат" meaning war.
When saying NATO ”intervention” and Russian agression does it imply that NATO was, in fact, throwing fertilizers from the air to boost Serbia’s agriculture sector? If so, in the United Nations they have also said this way of supplying fertilizers is illegal so why is it still called "intervention”? Hitting hotels, TV stations, hospitals and other civilian infras instead of sunflower fields should be enough of a proof.
@@antred11 If you consider NATO as ”angels“ and Serbs as aggressors then why didn’t they get UN approval even though Russia and US were on the same side back then? Could it possibly be there was something wrong with their interpretation of events as, e.g. when they waved with vial of water as a proof that Iraq has WMD?
Brou... we in Serbia (goverment and lot of people) chose to be neutral after 2004. Here , we have very good position on viewing media and propaganda and i think we can easy recognize it. We are in this state, that we have full west media coverage , but we have also full east media coverage too. So we can choose to listen to west or east or hear both side and conclude what we think is right. Some people in my country , we call them "rusofili" - they love and support russia (some % of that people organize protests and support) , and some others , who support the west. In my case , I love and support our neutral position and hope we stay that way, but a big pressure has been put on us to change our politics. Good job to our government, which is under big big pressure, although I do not agree with some of its decisions, I am here to support all the choices that we make independently and for our benefit, and not for others(under pressure). (I hope it doesn't sound wrong and just selfish, I think we should have our own politics, but of course we should continue to take care of everything) :D.
@@pugjudy7868 why should be there consequences? Staying neutral isnt really "alienation". Serbia is not in a good spot of choosing the side especially not now. Serbia wants to be an open econmy with everyone. Im from germany and the german goverment and other countries are currently biting their arse off because of no gas, wheat, oil etc. because they are very dependant on russia. Serbia wont have it because its doing the best thing right now. Staying neutral and accepting ukrainian refugees.
@@MrGanjaBandits I can't agree with you. Serbia only has a lot to lose if it wants to be belligerent with its neighbours. A Serbia that is democratic and peaceful with it's neighbours has nothing to fear and has a lot to gain. Your country just have to give up ideas of a "greater Serbia" which brought so much grief to the region not so long ago.
@@HR_8035_YEA I’ve abandoned the concept of not only greater Serbia but Serbia in general lol. When I was 6. I agree with you to an extent but I feel like I have a unique vantage point by not living there but visiting frequently. If someone decided to attack Serbia for example the only other country that would even consider sending military aid is Russia.
@@pugjudy7868 Economically and culturally speaking, Serbia is much more tied to EU than Russia. Yes, even culturally. The west kinda made the problem for themselves in Serbia. We were portrayed as the bad guys that deserved everything bad that happened to them and a lot of bad things happened to the Serbs in those wars too. After all those years of feeling mistreated, allowing other countries to form on our territory (first with Montenegro's independence and especially Kosovo), while at the same time not letting the Serbs in Bosnia have the same rights for self-determination and now this craziness in Ukraine, where the west firmly supports the UN resolutions and international laws that they crushed so easily in the case with Serbia, the natural response seeing Russia as our ally appeared. Simply because it's anti-nato. Serbs are not nearly as russophilic as they are actually anti-nato. It's a fact. We belong in the EU and we want to be there, but as equals and not as some fools the west thinks we are.
How ignorant can you be ? I really don't understand the people outside of Russia with access to real information thinking Russia is the right side , the educated youth of Russia think Russia IS ON THE WRONG SIDE .....
no you did not, since is not based only on the NATO bombardment... it is also based in the national struggle of the Serbs to free them self from the Ottoman Empire (First and Second Serbian uprising), on Orthodox Christianity, on being Slavs, of the Red Army taking part in liberation of Belgrade in WWII, as on being part of SFRY and socialist memory... it is more complicated than DW puts it...
it was propaganda aimed at the ignorant, ignorant of facts that is. You didn't also notice the anti-Russian participants were shown to be intelligent, educated, sophisticated victims but the pro-Russian participants except one... well I'll sum them up, one was portrayed as not even sure if what he believed was true and the other as a nationalist thug. When you get older... older than the producers of this kind of rehashed-tripe and get some knowledge of facts about the subject, you'll see it for what it is
Not really, Kosovo issue and Russian propaganda are the main reasons, only the neo-fascist types go back to "glory of Russian empire that saved the Serbs"
I'm genuinely happy & surprised that DW is actually reporting objectively on this topic and not censoring the things the ppl say (about distrust in western media, etc.) in order to make them look like bad guys. GJ
What if you top it up with very concrete threats of imprisonment and of being totally ostracised for voicing anti-war opinions? This combined with the western narrative that a lack of vocal opposition to the war equals complicity and partial responsibility on behalf of Russian nationals. This being followed with devastating sanctions on all individuals and organisations. What other conditions would you propose for such individuals to qualify?
Unfortunetaly, this feeling can be better described as Anti-NATO, than Pro-Russia...
Are you a Serbian?
It's both, Russians are our brothers.
Understandable
Serbians were commiting genocide. Why do you guys act like you were the victim. You were the Nazis!
No the EU has also non NATO members, Serbs are just trying to play their old game of milking both sides East and West.
Majority of Serbs are against NATO more than anything. Of course there's a long history between Serbia and Russia because of religion and support and that will always be there.
WTF YOU HATE UKRAINE THEN?!
Of course it is true. Serbia and Russia have a lot of things in common, for example:
-they have war criminal which are called "heroes" by brainwashed and people goes proud of them
-they make genocide on civils and disarmed people , also raping women other countries is normal for them
-they call "terrorist" everyone who don't think like them
-the don't have a real opposition party in their county
-their government control all the media to share easy their propaganda.
-they blame NATO for every stupid decision make by their politician
-they don't change the president for all life time
-their president are the richest man in their country
-their president decide who should live and who passed away
-they always try to invade or destabelize counties near them
-the level of corruption is very very high in this countries.
-often their church mix religion with politic for political purpose
Should I add more?
But Ukrainians are also Orthodox tho?
Serbia was populated by Russia after 1870 so yeah basically as he said mother Russia
Ukrayna da ortodoks.
I am from Serbia and I love Jamaica!
As a Jamaican i was'nt expecting this 😍😍😀😀
Hahahahahhahahaha
@@aliciadavis8872 Than you would be surprised I am not the only one :)
Why do Russias believe there are Nazis in Ukraine? Putin is killing babies in Ukraine.
nothing like smoking weed with a jamaican
As a Russian .... We won't forget who our brothers are.
@@RandomAmerican304what do you call this? A NATO bot?
@@RandomAmerican304 from the perspective of a brainwashed American. What can you expect from a person who has never seen war? Maybe you should get educated on the opposite side of the NATO interventions in Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Serbia and Iraq, challenge your views and then come preach to us about your great values.
Besides, when it's war in America, it's another sunny day in Washington D.C. You cannot even fathom what your country has done in the rest of the world.
GLORY to the USA
Russian propaganda is bad stuff!
eeeeeew @@account-369
I'm Serbian and I wish peace upon the Ukranian people as soon as possible.
Can some1 tell why is it in 1999 we were in the 20th century also can any1 tell me why in 1990 was it called the 20th century and not the 19 hundred & 90th century and what is it now that we made it 2 ///2022 please explain////imso confused
@@DIGIITALBITCH because the first century is the first hundred years so from 0-99
@@thurbine2411 so 1900 was excluded because we leaped IN2 the millennial excluding the 19th century completely because a 1000 yrs mark ?I'll look that up thankyou
@@DIGIITALBITCH 1900 was exkluderat from what?
нас и Срба - 200 милиона, а без Срба - пола камиона
I am Serb and I pray for peace and unity from all sides. We all have to come together 🙏🏼
When ignorant men refuse to listen there's only one alternative!
@@stalker7892 not just 1 in a war there is always 2!...or in this case 3,4,5...all of them are making WW3
I know you pray for peace.
But for being a Serb, what is it you are doing for it ?..........praying ?
You say that here. It is too bad racial generalizations are forbidden in youtube. Let just say that if it was a Serb from the Swedish army in a fox hole with me and the russiacels were on the opposite side... you know.
@@svestrantrip9039 Is he driving a truck load of medical supplies to Sarajevo twice a year ?
Not good enough, smock.
I’m Russian, I love Serbia and Serbian brothers, our Orthodox brothers! God bless Serbia! 3:41
🇷🇸🇷🇺🇧🇾☦️>>🏳️🌈🇭🇷🇦🇱
I love Serb brothers and sisters from Iran. You are more than entitled to choose who to love or hate 🥰😘
بسیجی ؟
@@DiakoHZno basigi
Glory and Respekt to Iran ✊❤️
@@sasak9794 you're from which country
This is the kind of bozzos who hate the west but are the first ones to apply for a green card USA visa. hypocrites
I think it’s important to understand that the world isn’t black and white. There is no ‘good’ and ‘evil’. There is only your experiences. The experiences of Serbs is that NATO bombed them whilst Russia helped them. I’m a pole, and our experiences are that Russia oppressed us whilst NATO secured us independence, or atleast protection in a way in which we can be sovereign and rule ourselves freely. Neither of these views are inherently wrong, and that’s why the world is so messy.
Yes, there is evil. NWO creators are pure EVIL.
Serbia was bombed for a reason. Serbia doesn’t have oil so NATO didn’t bomb them for some oil but bc they were committing ethnic cleansing right after committing genocide
"The experiences of Serbs is that NATO bombed them..." I understand that, but NATO didn't just wake up one morning and say: "Let's go bomb the Serbs today."
The very important context of what led to bombing Belgrade wasn't addressed by anyone interviewed in this well done documentary; and they likely would not recognize the reason(s) anyway.
Boy, go take a history book and learn. Serbia should have been bombed sooner and in bigger amounts.
Bombs will come again if you start to slaughter childrens and innocents in their houses
Serbian people know NATO and USA very well how peaceful they are and how much they care about human rights..
yeah serbia surley knows alot about human rights
Is this a reason to kiss Putins ass?
@@marko.rankovic i think you assumed i'm american, i'm slovenian and i was aiming twoards srebrenica and similar events. Also serbia isn't really the catalyst of social-welfare either
Serbs killed in Bosnia Croatia kosova !!
how cab you support a country where you don't even can say what you want?🤣
Serbia: Majority of people don't want to join EU
EU: Serbia will have to decide if it wants to join EU...
Westerners really don't get it...
Zato sto vas vUčić bi da sjedi na 6 stolica ako moze, dvolicna spodoba..glumac najveci
if the majority doesn't want & never has wanted to join EU, why did Serbia become a candidate then?
@@hullutsuhna because our politicians dont listen to their people.
@@milano9808 ever considered voting for politicians who would rescind the application? If you keep electing politicians who do s**t you don't like you can only blame yourselves, and if you keep electing them because you secretly agree with the application & simply can't admit it to the people around you, grow a f***ing spine.
@@hullutsuhna Bold of you to assume that the elections aren't rigged 😂
No one wants Vucic outside of Belgrade, trust me.
Glory to all Serbian people.
I am Serbian and idk what to feel about this situation it's like two friends are fighting and u cant spot them.... Lets be clear i love Russian people and i like Ukrainians then never did anything bad to my people but u need to know that this war didnt start in 2022 it started in 2014 where was western politicians all this time?
Absolutely
NATO puppets are not our friends.
The puppet is always worse than the master.
Onda dodje neko iz druge ulice i tera te da izabereš stranu. A svi mi znamo kako se takve situacije rešavaju
think the western politicians would of helped back in 2014 if Russian tried to annex the whole country not just Crimea
@@VikingFitness00 same as they helping now? 🤣
Serbia should not be forced to choose, but remain independent and work with everyone - US, EU, Russia and China
China works with the CCP; camps and destroying muslims....
Sitting idle by while war ravages your neighbors, what kind of neighbor are you?
That would work if Serbia cancelled their bid to join the EU, it would cost Serbia a lot of money tho.
@@ht-mm2elOh, that old carrot on a rod story? They wouldn't have bombarded us if they ever considered us part of their world, would they? Europe has encouraged the exodus of 250 000 Serbs from Croatia in 1995, an equal number from Bosnia in 1992. and from Kosovo and Metochia in 2004, without batting an eye and nobody was pleading over our victims nor property, nor historical monuments and treasures being robbed, burned down and scattered all over the world. Who had ever said that Serbs are willing to join EU??? It is not our choice that EU is in habit of installing the marionette governments that fake the picture of winning in democratic elections, so that they would ease your purchase of our industry for peanuts, while pretending to be generous in doing so.
That would require cancelling the EU application bid, as you can't join a team and play for both sides.
I am a Serb and I pray for peace, stability and that our friends, the Eastern Slavs, function properly again and that they are no longer misled by the great powers!🙏💪🏼🇺🇦🇷🇺
Well Russia is one of the great powers messing around.
Serbia has been the major destabilising and genocidal force in the Balkans
Mislis kao sto je gomila zaludjena Rusijom?
Davide nemoj da sereš
@@messer3914
A šta je čovek loše rekao??? 🤔
I am from Romania and I send much love for my brothers in Serbia and Russia, may God bless you and the soldiers on the field. 🇷🇴🇷🇸🇷🇺
The love for russia is not because of putin. We have a long history with serbia that politics will not destroy
There’s no such absolute love for Russia but anti-NATO rather. Those who love Russia in Serbia are under the influence of Russian propaganda including yourself, even forgetting what actually happened in the past.
@@KittenBowl1 Hmm, spoken like a tru " DOS" regime bootlicker and a traitor. Why do you not move from Serbia then and join your "friends" in US or EU?
@@KittenBowl1 What happened in the past? Russia leveled Belgrade 3 times in last 100 years?
And Putin saw the threat of NATO in Ukraine. Zelenksy himself was saying they wanted nuclear capability and to join NATO. Russia has the right to defend itself.
@@serbtesla you said it right, they are scared that the master could level it the 4th time so better to be like little following dogs....
I’m surprised dw covers both sides of stories so well, not many organizations that do that these days, especially as impartial as they do.
It is their first. We need more
Many nations round the world support Russia but quietly, because of sanctions and western bullying.
I always watch documentaries when its DW-made. I have watched half their creations and never once I thought "Wow, thats biased."
@@PRubin-rh4sr What about when the narrator in this documentary sarcastically and snarkly says "Russia has already won over their hearts and minds" at 14:21? 🙂
This shows how the situation is changing. It’s going to be more pro Russian
Interesting documentary. I value the Serbs for trying to remain independent and not be pressured by any other powers. However I am not impressed with hearing that the USA warned Serbia against purchasing Chinese weapons. Its none of their business and certainly hypocritical to start warning independent nations about what they can and can not do. My thoughts are that the EU will never let Serbia in whilst the people are not pro EU. Stay independent and carve your own path.
It is perfectly normal for one sovereign country (US) to explain the ramifications of another sovereign country (Serbia) over it's policy decisions, particularly concerning weapons purchases
This is called Diplomacy and seeks to minimize surprise when decisions are made.
That path will be poverty, like Russia’s path. Modern economy requires respect for international law and human rights. Serbia is not independent, but guilty of genocidal crimes, and a pawn of Russia.
@@rdsc.455 China uses it's diplomatic muscle in more open and transparent manner.
Australia correctly asked for an independent enquiry over the origins of Covid 19, and got hit by trade sanctions
Many countries such as the UK have welcomed the Dali Llama and seen China put them in the Diplomatic deep freeze
Lithuania dared welcome a Taiwan trade delegation, trade sanctions.
So, the possibility or likelihood of a Chinese military base in close proximity is very likely to incur Diplomatic concern
Oh Russia tought us that a stronger nation can do whatever they want. Russia invaded Ukraine twice. This was not the only country they invaded.
@@rdsc.455 Russia invades its neighbours and killed the citizens of the invaded countries. Do you get the difference?
DW is currently one of the best real news broadcasters. Neutral and calm presentation style
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA Natürlich die Deutsch grünen vollidoten ein Volk was momentan untergeht... aber naja das ist halt so wenn man ein Vasal des Imperiums ist wird man als erstes geopfert.. vielleicht macht die neutrale DeutscheWelle eine doku einmal darüber in 50 jahren vielleicht?
joke
Not recently.
This is horible and doesn't represent Serbiam peoplr
@@saramarija21 LOL, doesn't represent Serbian people? Are you Serbian? Did you forget the unilateral NATO bombings of Yugoslavia?
Some people are naive.
Serbia is Russia's ally because actions speak louder than words, they fought for Serbians while the west killed Serbians. There's no moral bullsh*t about it... of course they were gonna stand with Russia instead of hypocrites. Many people lost their families.
As a Serb I must say how impressed I am of the objectivity of this video, bearing in mind it comes from DW ;)
The pros and cons have been explained quite well. Though the main focus was mainly on emotions and logic behind it, but very little about economic reasons (our banking is 100% Western, and energy is 100% Russia dependent, the fact we have been promissed eu membership for 20 years now and nothing came of it.). Also, our close ties with the French have not been mentiomed, as vast majority of next set of military equipment (mailny fighter jets) will come from them. Also, the stance toward Russia we have due to energy dependency can also be seen in some of the EU members such as Hungary, Czech republic etc. So this is in a way a good video, but it stick to the very shallow / simplified ways of looking at things. Real life is never a Hollywood movie with clear bad and good guys.
Putin is poison to humanity. He won't hesitate to kill his own Russians....leave alone Serbians!!!
Energy dependence does not make u support war crimes against a neighbouring country U may continue trading oil if ua conscience allows u that , but don't make statements blaming the victim if aggression
As for the EU's promise: you will not be accepted until you meet the accession criteria, and that depends only on Serbia. If you allow Russia to meddle in the country's affairs (I'm sure Russia is funding the pro-Russian protests), you won't be any closer.
@@almac9203 aren't you escaping the complexity of what happened? it was immoral and illegal what they were doing. both Serbia and NATO, even though the first did way worse. yet, you somehow ignore that part
@@pavlissimus NATO were stopping a genocide. Serbia was committing ethnic cleansing and war crimes. NATO was simply preventing further crimes against humanity. Many people were grateful for the intervention.
1. In the beginning of the report, the narrator mentioned that Serbian airlines still fly to Russia. However, the narrator failed to inform that air Serbia has been receiving bomb threats on the planes daily from the start of the war. Later, they began to receive calls of bombs set in schools and day cares all around the cities in Serbia. Serbian president says the calls come from Ukraine.
2. RT is banned in the USA (unlike the lady mentioned, maybe her kids found a way to get around it)
3. A lot of Russians panicked and fled Russia in the beginning of the war. However, they say 80% of them returned due to difficulty assimilating and brutal discrimination they are facing (regardless of their position on the war) just because they are Russians
AS ASIAN HISTORIAN... we knew how horrible is Western Countries friendship....THEIR KISS IS DEATH..... THE TRAITOR OF ALL TIME...
RT is banned in Serbia as well…
@@PinkieFire Not on Facebook, ironically.
Вы всё правильно написали, всё так и есть.
1. Подобными звонками занимается специальное подразделение армии современной Украины, так называемое ЦИПсО, состоящее из нескольких подразделений и ведущее кибервойну против России в социальных сетях, СМИ, используются финансовые мошеннические схемы. Очень много денег было украдено у доверчивых российских граждан именно посредством телефонного грабежа. Причем война ведется давно, началась задолго до 2013 года. Обучают подразделения НАТО и Mи6.
3. Именно так, запаниковали, испугались, а не потому что русские на стороне Украины. Россия имеет самый мощный ядерный потенциал, в самом начале военного конфликта люди испугались именно этого. Страх перед ядерной войной на территории России. Но когда стало понятно, что время идет, конфликт только локальный, а запасы наличной валюты заканчиваются, то смысла оставаться вне дома нет. Вот и поехали домой.
Serbian president's close people made those bomb threats so he has a reason to sanction Russia. There were like 150 threats and none of them turned out to be true, and if they were made by Ukrainians, those Ukrainians surely wouldn't say its from them lmao. He wants to turn to the west and his nation adores Russia so he tries to fool them all
The Balkans are supposed to be one of the most anti imperialists regions in the world imo.
The Balkans has been ravaged by imperialism for 500 years. The Turks occupied and caused misery here for a long time. Since the Turks were expelled, the main imperial force has been Serbia (with the backing of their Russian masters).
@@horvatlovren7198 Pax Ottomanica
Yes thats why they against imperialist NATO thats been expanding all the time since founding
Then ask yourself, how many NATO countries are history biggest imperialism.
its a pass through, so it will always be a focal point sooner or later.
Yes, I too am surprised how well DW Documentary covers all sides. Good job, DW.
I am amazed how realistic this report is ! Good job! Very objective ! ( I'm saying this because I'm from Serbia so I am quite aware of the situation ) Thank you for not demonizing and for trying to explain why some people are the way they are.
DW if funded directly by tax payer, it has its own provision in the law so it doesnt have any supervision from the German government, more like BBC but just better. I just paid 110 Euros for that, so you are welcome :)
@@mojo7618 nope, it is definitely better than the BBC.
@@melindabraun6060 das what they said yeah, the BBC is unwatchable aside from nature documentaries lol
Oh, really? So you're saying it's not like the Serbian media, or even better, the Russian state TV which demonises and lies about the West... I didn't even mention how you're fond of the Bosniaks or Kosovars...
What is insanity
NATO dropping bombs on Serbians
Serbian: I hate NATO for dropping bombs on us
Putin dropping bombs on Ukrainians
Serbian: I support Putin and Russia
People so easy use Genocide as word. When talking about wars in all Yugaslavia,you always forget that in all counries except Slovenia lived a lot of Serbs. And now, you can’t count them
Бла бла. надуваш ми се Српских јаја, јајаро.
@@bilic8094 Yes! 700 000 people, including over 100 000 children. And no one in the west talks about it. They didnt care about true, they only care about their agenda in wich we were chosen to be the bad guys. Unfortunately i see that their people believed in that propaganda.
@@Ana_5056 lmao... sure thing bud
@@albinh.3149 what's funny?
@@bilic8094 It didn't happen, but if it did they deserved it and we will do it again.
This is more of a hatred towards nato than anything
Hvala NATO za bombardira beograd!🚀
@@adrianog4148 sad little albanian guy. Go hold up Nato signs and parade the streets because we all know who you ran to in 1999
they trying to sit on two chairs. they love russia but also they love money from eu.
@@unsgus925 we aren’t part of EU you 🤡
@ Nope. Serbs are not Germans!
Serbian brothers 🙏❤️
War is not a solution. I hope the peace for all. You can't imagine how much difficult to live in a war zone because I lived in it.
From Iraq❤
We love our Russian brothers and sisters too❤all the best to u Ilina and to your people from Serbia 🇷🇸❤️🇷🇺
I think you forgot a very important thing: Bombardment of depleted uranium kills Serbs even today. There is no family that has not lost someone from cancer ... Before the bombing, few people had heard of the disease. Is that NATO's purpose?
Why kill albanians in kosovo civilians?
Thats what happens and don’t forget sarajevo
@@Pitera2140 The bombing was still unjustified (both because they bombed civilians and because NATO countries did not vote for that bombing to occur) and also "eye for an eye" is not a good principle 💀💀
@@Lobanjolom oh ye then stop killing innocents in other country nobody gonna bomb the fk out of you if you ain’t doing shit..
No so true it kills everyone what about the soldiers and aid workers police from all over the world which was providing support for the civilians Russian peace keeping troops was also deployed I think mental health and chronic illnesses attributed to the balkans there could be a lot of cases all over the world I could still imagine there are lots of unexploded ordinance and land mines I hope peace in Balkans continues ❤️
What happens in Sarajevo?
You are a psychopath, and don’t forget, Kosovo is Serbia.
Serbians say they don't need the EU. On the flipside, does the EU need Serbia? NOPE. Do we want them in the EU.......
It's funny, more and more people actually want OUT of the EU. Come next winter, it's gonna be very interesting to see you guys struggle just to get warm 🤣😂
EU promovise novi svetski poredak satanizam i lgbt kulturu... ne zelimo da budemo deo toga, samo status kandidata je najbolje za nas
@@dp-by1wg LOL have you ever heard of a small place called Finland? Maybe Sweden? Pretty formiddable militaries, decent economies. + they already use the euro currency if im not mistaken.
Alot of member states are b*tching about all & nothing since the new mandatory 2%gdp military spending but its for all the right reasons!
Edit: typo
@@dp-by1wg your comment is adorable, the fact you even put the two lauging emojis at the end, it's so cute!
@@dp-by1wg russian gas had one advantage, it was cheap, europe has the money and Will buy from somewhere else. Money can buy you anything, there are so many options if you gave the money, dont worry europe Will give it to someone else to have what it wants
It makes me understand Serbia and Serbian people more. Thanks DW
It doesn't say anything about the genocides Serbs did and why NATO got involved.
@@Giorg189 what funking genocide. You mean the one orchestrated by NATO, Bosnian and Albanian terrorist.
@@TML0677 Bosnians, Srebrenica. Thousands of murdered Bosnians by Serbs.
@@darenzy Tell me 6000 murdered Bosnians is not enough for you? Thats why your government and majority of Serbians support the mass murder and genocide of the Ukrainian nation? NATO was right and it has brought peace. Now if your people think its better with Putin, then become a Balkan North Korea and dont bother with EU. Keep out of Greece, we don't want Putin's pawns here.
@@Giorg189 I Agree. Milosevic was a war criminal. And yet the bombing nato did was Illegal! In order to intervene ( Nato ) is required by its charted for a UN security council vote. This didnt happen. Neither in Iraq war or in this instance.
Serbian brothers. As a Belgian I am deeply ashamed of what happened to the citizens during the bombings. I have never felt at home so much in a country as when I spent some weeks in Serbia with my wife. If it weren't for my good job back home, would instantly move to Belgrade. Country is developing extremely quickly due to having good relations with most world powers. People are super welcoming and friendly. City is absolutely stunning and safe. Love Serbia.
Lol Serbia is not Belgrade & they are being ran by a dictator who destroyed all the institutions and you judge them by cheap drinks and cevapi lol.
Ps you should know that Serbia supported four years of bombing of Sarajevo for example, they should have been bombed in 1992.
bombing was justified seems like you've been brainwashed google what serbs did in kosovo croatia slovenia bosnia etc
This lady makes good sense. You should listen if someone is willing to talk, even if you don't believe them. Censorship is evil incarnate.
"Our shadows will be walking through Vienna, strolling through the court, frightening lords." - Gavrilo Princip
yep, around 350 000 serbs living in Vienna.
Reverse colonialism. It’s what happens to every country that has exploited other countries.
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One of the worse things about war is polarization and hate, hate is an awful feeling that war fuels like nothing else in this world.
There is no polarization or hate. There is a dictatorship, attacking, and annexing territories.
Hate is profitable.
Hate boosts morale of the soldiers.
I love Russian people. I hate Putin's war.
I hate the russians, i’m very sadistic about thinking of their tank turrets getting blown off and vaporised in Ukraine. I can’t say i hate them all, but 80% of them
I am Croatian. My father was a soldier, he was killed in the war with the Serbs, because they thought it was a good idea to send tanks against foot soldiers. And so Serbian tanks obliterated them. I am saying this because I know there are peaceful and kind people in Serbia. I met them, I laughed with them, I admired them. Some of them are my family. My sympathies go to all those compassionate Serbs who are forced to live among such deranged sociopaths. Hang in there brethren, these people belong to the past, and that's where they're going! Zivjeli!
Says the guy who's nation had only concentration camps for children,killed one million Serbs in WW2, expelled God knows how many,and again in 1990s expelled 300k and killed around 3000. Yes great comment. Plus not to mention that you are catholic Serbs...
Yeah, lets all forget how peacefull croats almost killed that boy from macedonia in Split before everything. And how serbs stors and houses simply blew up in the middle of night and certan number of serbs dissapired mistiqly. Or how we all watched on tv trucks crossing from Hungary with guns bought by Tudjman. Its more easy to just blame the serbs
they killed Croats like a bug and now u love them lmao...... Orthodox Christians hate Catholics like Nazis hated Jews
Nobody from Serbia sent tanks in Croatia..Croatia was just part of Yugoslavia, which was a federation where federal units did not have rights to declare indenpendence without agreement of all units, that Constitutional law said in 1974..So, indenpendence of Croatia and Bosnia was secessions from Yugoslavia..Yugoslav army was the military unit you fought against and Serbs in Croatia who were constitutional ethnic group in federal unit called Croatia..So please, explain me what is a difference between Croatia and Donbas today..both are result of secession
@@sasadelic1988student First of all, learn historical facts. Every country in Yugoslavia had a constitutional right to become independent. And stop conveniently forgetting other countries, namely Slovenia, Herzegovina, Macedonia, etc. that also wanted out from the idea of Great Serbian Empire. So, if you want to spread Serbian hegemonic ideas, go back to where people want to listen to them. Namely, the CURRENT and forever borders of Serbia. You know, those borders you actually can hold with your water pistol equipped army.
3:40 “Our children does not have future in Russia” - and they move to Belgrade without kids...?!?
Maybe they didn't want kids be filmed
As a proud Serb, there is one thing I noticed in this video that bothers me a lot….. every Serb I know takes their shoes off when coming into a house yet all these “Serbs” Wear shoes in house…. Doesn’t feel authentic LMAO
I always take my shoes off before coming into someone's house and my own home too.
So we do in Russia 😀
You don't wear street shoes inside. Simple !
also Germans and Scandinavians practice this
Enemy of my enemy, is my friend. How true.
they trying to sit on two chairs. they love russia but also they love money from eu.
Oye Gregory you PRICKK ....... .. RUSSIA FOREVER
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@@jecka021 people in the west only know the worst things about Serbs and Russians. The propaganda is quite rabid
Nato b, anditen
Serbs are accomplices of Russian Nazism. and they love Nazi Putin because of the money.
Aleksa Grbovic's statement at 10:30 is the most truthful statement surrounding serbs and the controversies they face. No matter what evil that government perpetuated, NATOs response to target civilians while supposedly standing for democracy, peace, and freedom is the direct cause of so much pain and continued disdain for the west in the eyes of many serbs and it is 100% comparable to the way ukrainians feel right now. Thats the key element in this whole comparison, Ukraine is in an extremely similar situation to where Serbia was 20 years ago, the difference is who the west is supporting.
NATO did not target civilisations in the bombardment of Serbia in 1999. This is a lie that many serbs are repeating again and again to victimize themselves and present themselves as just victims . Yes it’s true that civilians were killed that unfortunately was inevitable just like in every war . The bombardment of Serbia was completely justified. It was a war that was going on since 1991 . You need to look at the situation from the inside. Ukraine is facing a full scale invasion not just bombardment. It’s totally different situation.
true
@@st3019 you are completely incorrect, the Kosovo war and the Croatian/Bosnian civil wars in Yugoslavia were completely different conflicts. They occurred around the same time and concerned the same main participants, but the war was not "going on since 1991", the Kosovo war lasted from February 1998 to June 1999. You have no credit here to discuss what is a lie and what is truth when you can't even get the basic timeline of events right. The reality is that while they were hitting government and military infrastructure primarily (that is true) they were still greatly targeting civilian areas, hospitals, trains, infrastructure in order twist their wrist and to force the Serbian government to bend. It wasn't just civilian bystanders that happened to be killed, there were targeted attacks and specific civilian centers and locations were hit as a means to force a surrender. My point isn't whose side was right or wrong in the conflict or to make "victimize" Serbs (though the civilians were undoubtedly victims just the same way that Albanian civilians were victims of the Serbs) my point is that America is a hypocritical beast that chooses who and what to bomb when it suits them, they choose what is a crime and what isn't when it suits them, and they cannot pretend to stand up for peace and human rights when they both perpetuate war and violate human rights.
@@lazarzivkovic3393 When I said “ the war was going on since 1991” , I didn’t mean only about Kosovo war . I meant Yugoslavian wars which already had started since 1991 . Serbia was in control of all yougoslavian army resources . It’s hard to imagine that what happened would had lasted for 8 years if Serbia didn’t want war . Even in Kosovo situation was very tense and repressive since 1989 . War in Croatia and Bosnia are called just “ civil wars “ but these wars woudn’t have happened if Serbia didn’t want to happen. I know the reality in the field is more complicated.
My point was to say that it’s not the same situation with what is going on today in Ukraine. Ukraine is not doing what serbian army and militia were doing in Kosovo. Russia is not in Ukraine to defend Russians as Putin says but to stop integration of Ukraine into the west and return Ukraine under russian influence.It’s not the same
Serbs slaughtered 100k Bosnians and then it was time to take it out on Kosovo. Remember you fought wars in Slovenia, and Croatia as well. You had tons of ex Yugoslavian weapons and your next target was Kosovo. Nato tried to avoid another Bosnia, or Ruanda by bombing your infrastructure and not civilians. Not sure where you are getting your facts, russian tv?
It amazes me that Serbs play the victim card here. Such a shame that you will never move forward with this and will always look back to some fake history moment to justify your believes. Your country is run by a guy who sniped civilians in Sarajevo, who controls your media.
the guy mentioning the enemy is Austria in the first few minutes got me like "The more things change..."
Gavrilo Princip has entered the game...
I also wondered about that statement... i am from austria and here are so many serbians so how can austria be the enemy??? no wonder serbia is a failed state
@@dariusweisz7440 Obviously you don't know that the first countries which recognized Croatia as a state were Germany and Austria. Some things never change.
@@johnsinger1887 And Russia and China recognized Croatia before US and UK.
Just a weird Serbian sense of humor I would say...
Amazing doc this one. We really need a lot of alternative views on everything!
maybe you need a pen pal like Donald Trump
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@@Marko-rz5sy 🇺🇦🇺🇦
@@alexanderrudawski7802 bolje rat nego nato otan satan pakt
@@pwp8737 maybe you're generic
Shockingly balanced and informative.
Serbs have always been shockingly balanced people with great sense of humour, while being well informed.
More like Shockingly pro-Russian
@@ioannisAss What is shocking in resisting mass paranoia?
Easy to be Pro-Putin when you aren't dying because of his miscalculation. I hope NATO and the EU never admit the Serbs.
@@awkwardowl8835 bunch of losers really tho. Let them share Russia’s bleak fate 😂
Thank you for showing us how the other side thinks in an impartial manner. This is good journalism.
This documentary was very well done because it appeared to be unbiassed. It just stated what was done and the differing opinions about it. Refreshing.
They didn't mention enough Serbians genocide against Kosovo. As if NATO just decided bomb people for no reason. Serbians were the Nazis back then.
It is also missing a lot of information
Dust in the eyes. Don't be so naive.
@@mirkogolub4927 Could you be more specific?
@@dc2288Look through the comments, there's one by me that might raise your interest in something you obviously don't know...there's great and dark history hidden behind cheap and manipulative stories like this film is...
NATO bombed civilian infrastructure but I have never heard any mentions of war crimes towards them
Exactly. +
"NATO is a defense alliance" 🤣
Go ahead and tell us about the Genocide your hero Slobodan committed in the name of Serbia. NATO put an end to that.
@@rogerpennel1798 but we live in a "rule based society" dont we? Serbians should have been dragged to court if they broke the rules
@@rogerpennel1798 go ahead and tell us about the genocide your hero zelensky commited in the name of ukraine. Russia put an end to that
Pozdrav Serbia AlhamdulillaH. Serbian people are gret
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Interesting documentary on Serbian attitudes towards Russia and the war with Ukraine.
This is not Serbia. Probably there are more people in USA that supports Russia in this war than in Serbia. By percentage of course
@@xowurb nope.
@Binsr we are pro russian country
Imagine Germans making a doco on Serbs right after they halved their population in two world wars and ravaged their capital city for three times in the last 100 years
@@ShadowStrikerTheLoneWolf The reasons behind, do not matter. Either you are pro Russian, or you are not. If your brother commits a crime and kills another, you should punish him, even though you are brothers. The crime has been committed, you are still brothers, but you cannot say "I stand with my brother" and not agree that your brother deserves the conviction.
Some corrections and explanations:
Serbs didn't accept Russian propaganda as self value but didn't buy Western propaganda as such. Serbs know wery well what means propaganda as felt on their own skin long time ago.
Serbs were not killing Albanian citizens in 1999 but were dealing with Albanian terrorists. Trained, financed and supported by US and allies (read Nato). Thats why Serbia sufferd the bombing in order Kosovo to be taken under their control and the biggest military US base in Europe set up there.
The newspapers "Danas" are pro western and they support official anti Russian narrative that is why people comment bad their articles on social media.
Why Serbs support Russia? Because Serbs has experienced all this situation of fake news and western propaganda, the manuel they use is the same for any occasion. In the years of 90' the Serbs were satanized as bad guys and agressors by all media around the world, Serbia suffered severe sancions and economy damadges, high inflation, its history and coulture were cancelled everywhere. So all this that Russian people is now going trhrough was seen in Serbia so no way mass media under western control will make Serbs believe their stories. Also knowing wery well Russian historic deeds as always being on the right side fighting the thirrany and helping liberation of Serbia made deep bonds. For the difference of those who started more than 30 wars and killed millions of people worldwide, now are talking about the democracy and agression. As being more attached to traditional values nurtured in Russia then perverted ones of EU, for the Serbs is more natural to be pro Russia than wanting to become EU member as not seeing any good values and place there. Also not trusting those who bombed its cities killing ordinary citizens for 72 days in 1999. Serbs see well that this conflict has little to do with Ukraine but the same those who are using Ukraine for their interest and pushing them into the war. The same ones were training and financing Ukranian nazi movements as they did with terrorists in Kosovo. This is the conflict of those standing for the souvereignty and justice and those who wants to dominate the whole world. Russia is the stone they fell upon. Unfortunately war conflict was inevitable but could be over if the same peacemakers want to but they don't because they don't care for people's lives but only their own interest.
Yet u buy your own serbian propaganda?
U can lie all u want, all the normal countries know very well what happend and if anything close does again you will get bombed to ashes.
Your entire post is like Russian propaganda. You probably agreed with Srebrenica.
@@putler965 Having you look yourself in the mirror, you're a typical Western warmonger.
@@putler965 arghaaa, propagandaaa
Well - Serbia doesn't seem to have good relationship with Croatia, either. Croatians hate Serbians and Serbia for what they have done to them and their families between 1991 to 1995 war. Why don't you mention the crimes you've done against Croats ? Because you did to other countries what Russia does to Ukraine.
Not really surprising considering what Nato did to Serbia
And Libya!!!
@@brianjett1446 yeah and 60 other countries
Did you comsifer what serbia did to Vukovar and Sarajevo? And what would threy do to Kosovo of nato didnt stop them?
@@seekanddestroy9111 It is not about which is right or wrong. it's about understanding why the other people think the way they do
@@KaloyanKasabov well said, hope this guy can understand it right.
This country is the gift that keeps giving when it comes to unappetizing people.
Where exactly are you from???? So I can tell you about "unappetizing" people
Nato: Russia stop bombing Ukraine!!!
Serbia: sounds familiar right?
There was murdering of an ethnic group happening. Not just imagining it like with ukrainans cleansing Russians.
NATO: Serbia, stop doing genocide in Kosovo... - Do you remember that?
NATO did not she'll the fuck out civilian houses or shot civilians or fired non guided weapons. Russia is firing thousands of unguided rockets per day using illegal cluster bombs on civilian population shooting civil service dead in the street shooting at civilian cars after the pass a Russian checkpoints to flee.
How can anyone defend what Russia is doing. They are as bad as ISIS where they need to build lots of mass graves to bury all the murders they have committed look at the satellite photos in Russia control areas around 7 large mass graves have been found with upto 1000 bodies this is not including the mass graves found with 5 to 50 bodies that have been uncovered on reclaimed land where upto around 100+ of small mass graves have been found
Because RT is state owned they are not going to show anything critical
@@account-369 How is this connected in any way with NATO intervention or Russian invasion? Think before you will comment.
The last guy talking about Serbian weapons shifting to NATO is just wrong. Serbia is not trying to shift to NATO standards but mantain a balance of weaponry so to make both sides happy. At the end the strategic stuff is still Russian and Chinese only minor equipment is from some NATO countries like france
Probably Russia will join NATO long before 100% demilitarised Serbia. No problem!
@@NickVenture1 NATO in few years won't exist anymore as its proven usless as a defensive alliance.
And you are more of an expert on this, why?
@@PointBomaN A couple of weeks back, Serbia bought FK-3 Chinese air defense system.. Serbia is an important friend to both Russia and China..
@@kaimanyu586 putin would let the Serbs die like he is killing his neighbours and his own troops for an unjust war in the 21st century disgusting narrative 🤮🤮
Wow at first glance I was thinking here we go Germans passing judgment on Serbs yet again….. but actually this documentary was ok
I am educated man in Serbia. Russia didn't bomb us. Russia helped us many times in history so you maybe now understand. I want peace, we are supporting Ukrainian independence. Russia is doing similar to NATO, difference is they fight in area where are living Russian people
러시아의 우크라이나 침략에 대한 정당화는 곤란하지만 최소한 세르비아인들이 왜 나토를 싫어하게 되었는지 어느 정도 이해하게 되었습니다. 감사합니다.
Force a person to shoot a bullet first and they will certainly be called the bad guy . That's how u have moral high ground
Love North Korea from Serbia!
@@supernova7966 bs you ain't from Serbia
NATO supported the Serbian province of Kosovo' Independence, Serbia disagreed, NATO bombed Serbia (1998-1999), forcing them to accept, so the Serbs hated NATO.
Трудно оправдать что? Русскую агрессию? Вы в своём уме? На Украине нацизм! Какая Русская агрессия , чёрт возьми 😡
Let’s go Serbia
Well now... Narator explained that NATO bombed Serbia because we were mass killing kosovo albanians and that Serbia broke peace talks. None of that is truth. Serbia was fighting terorists and separatist albanians. NATO helped them on field, trained them in Albania and gave them weapons finally using them as ground troops(sounds familiar) . Than when Serbian police and military defeated those terorists NATO came to help by bombarding Serbia for 78 days(again sounds familiar) . Peace talks before war were western sharade where Serbs had to surrender and sign what ever USA wanted. Siria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libia, Vietnam etc, democracy by USA & NATO bombing. So we love Russia, we hate US government and NATO.
AMIN
Or maybe they bombed you because you had sooooo much blood on your hands from other countries and you simply didn't intent to stop. This narrative of yours is disgusting.
МОЖЕШ ДА ГА ПУШИШ КЛИНТОНЕЕ 🇷🇸♥️🇷🇺
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Ne boj se. Pusis ga kao kad si ga pusio u 99'
They still have beautiful value. Bravo Serbia
Instead of spreading negative campaign and propaganda against Serbia, West should try to do something to attract our country on its side. If you think that pressure and hate will influence Serbs to do something against their will you should read something about history. Please leave us alone and fight your own wars. When you bombed us for 78 days just 20 years ago in the heart of Europe we had zero support. We don't need anything, just leave us alone and respect our neutrality. Otherwise this is as you are expecting that abused one is getting marry to a abuser. This is not possible.
Peace to all. P.S. those protestants supporting Russia are like 0000.1 of Serbian society.
Problem is that this comment section is filled with croats, bosniaks and albanians who purposly try to make serbia look bad for what they did in the 90s. Theyre just here to hate on serbs, nothing else, they dont have anything better to do. Whats even worse theyre making fun of the nato bombings....
Of course you had 0 support, you guys did genocide in bosnia and kosovo was next
Why did they bomb you?
@@duruarute5445 In your opinion. Your opinions dont = facts. Were you there to vitness it?? No. Did you see Serbs kill civillians??? No. Did you vitness a genocide?? No. So then dont write it of as facts, and try to manipulate shit. As she said up top, mind your own business and dint worry about Serbia. Serbia is not yours to command.
More like 80% of Serbs are with Russians. Serbs are not on western side and never will be.
I am and I have been hard-core pro European Union. However, to try to explain the situation in Serbia I will explain the situation in North Macedonia, where I am from. North Macedonia, changed its name because Greece vetoed its path to EU accession. After it changed its name, instead of Greece now Bulgaria vetoes Macedonia's accession in the EU. The question arises, how can we trust the EU? Is the EU a reliable entity to engage with and be trusted or it is just another manipulation? When I say the EU am think of the two most influential countries Germany and France. What should North Macedonia do in order for Bulgaria not to veto its accession in the EU? Do you think this produces trust for Serbia or anyone else?
Accept historical precedent and reunite?
The EU is just a tool of foreign policy for the United States. If you enter the EU you get some economic benefits, but you surrender all independence to the USA to manipulate as they want.
@@ClaxiuxIt is misleading to think that a small country like Macedonia, no matter if it is a member of the EU or not, can have an independent foreign policy. As time passes the power in the Balkan region is shifting in the west's direction so the the region has only one option and that is EU integration. However, the point I want to make is that the leaders of the EU, and that is Germany and France are not prepared for the burden and responsibility of European leadership. I want to strongly criticize them, and point to their incompetence. I expect a greater engagement from their side and greater support for my country.
What must Macedonia do? Accept what Bulgaria is asking just like you accepted what Greece asked., As you said, you are small country and insiginificant in the gran scheme of things. France and Germany are influental and leaders but also they cannot accept North Macedonia that has conflicts with its neighbors.
Before you enter the EU you have to clear it out with Bulgaria and whatever misunderstandings you have. After all Bulgarians did the same when they entered EU and had to do everything that was asked from them.
Macedonians dont want to do what is asked of them- instead they act as if its everyone else's fault.
Clear things with Bulgaria and stop asking nonsensical questions.
Dragane, ako ne vjerujes EU, onda najbolje da se pridruzis Kini ili Rusiji ili Pakistanu, oni su mnogo vjerodostojniji od EU.
Im Romanian and while I like Serbs and think we always had very good relations historically.... I still dont think that Hate for NATO (which in this case I dont condemn) is a justification for believing or participating in the Demonization of Ukraine and Ukrainians.... Please... you cant be serious, claiming to be Christian , this guy.... no, thats not the way.
@Ruslan Katsyuryna We already have experience with Russian ways...and while were mostly Good-ish during the Tzars (not completely but mostly)... it was all bad after Lenin and Stalin.
Ukrainians are fascists. They have Azov. Am sorry but i dont support nazi scum.
What about the Christianity of USA/nato who intervened in 51w places all over the world in just 20 years
?What is your comment about that?
Huge injustice was done to us and we shall have our vengeance in this way or in the other.
While "noble' Western world recognizes Crimea as part of Ukraine they refuse to recognize Kosovo as part of Serbia.While they support Ukraine to defend its territory they don't support Serbia.They say we don't have the right to defend our people and territory.
West opened the Pandora's box in Yugoslavia.What we have today in Ukraine are the consequences.If they can basically steal a part of an independent country, then Russia can do the same.Tomorrow it will be someone else.Either we have anarchy or we don't have it.
@@Stef-m8l Since Trump they openly stated they want to stop having troops everywhere as its simply a waste of lives and resources. But this is not a contest of which Christians are better, when I wrote Christian I actually was referring to the reality of our parts, close by. So called Orthodox , like Putin... a former KGB guy, with a puppet "patriarch" that treats church like a warmonger battle priest to push Kremlin narratives (propaganda). So called Slavs killing Slavs under the pretext that the other slavs are actually nazis.. Sure there are nationalist edgy characters in all nations, but Ukraine far right parties received 2% of votes...seems its not a big thing in Ukraine in general, there are other countries with far more than that, so in other words Russia could make that claim and attack almost any other country...
Then I look at "liberating cities from nazis" and I look at cities like Mariupol... they (Russia) deleted that city off the face of the earth, how is that liberation? There were civilians there also not all had left. But here is the truly "weird" part...the port of Mariupol was not hit, left intact... you want to know why ? I think you know it deep down why... this is no liberation from "nazis", this is Land Grab . That port would be very useful in future, if they manage to keep it of course...
good documentary, pretty objective, learning history can always make people wise.
The Serbs trust Russian media more than western reporting!!! This documentary is not objective, it forgets to mention that the Serbs tried to overrun the rest of the old Yugoslavia for 5 years, killing just like Russia is doing now. Only after NATO stepped in did this war stop and Milosovic was taken to court, just like Putin should now.
this documentary is as gay as any other liberal propaganda.
Pure NATO western propaganda
Russian fascists in Karabakh, Chechnya, Syria, Georgia, Kazakhstan did the same thing - they raped women and children and killed them with particular cruelty ..... everywhere the emphasis on the murders of Russians is the same
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According to history, Kosovo was once belonging to Yugoslavia, NATO intended to separate Yugoslavia into several units, the so-called 'NATO bombing campaign‘ was actually not approved by ‘’UN security counsel', it was NATO's invasion of Yugoslavia to bomb Serbian civilian infrastructure and people inside it(NATO used penetrating bomb). In the situation, 'Kosovo Albania' to Yugoslavia was like 'Donbas ethnic Russian' to Ukraine today, NATO's invasion of Yugoslavia under name of ’NATO bombing campaign‘ was like Russia's invasion of Ukraine under name of 'Russia special military operation' today, and Milosevic of Yugoslavia was in the same position as Poroshenko of Ukraine today.
The awareness of history makes people wise, we can know that Russia is exactly learning what NATO did in history, if NATO blames what Russia does now, it is like something that 'NATO blames what NATO did'.
Serbia is a proud country ! 🇷🇸
its failed country corrupted af
This is how it should be done; get the story from both side and let the viewers decide for themselves.
@6:20 “we did not know if NATO will bomb us” - yes, it was hard to imagine that one of European capital can be bombarded in 21 centuries. But yet, YOU DID IT! And yes, we will not forget or forgive to you!
Wow, i wonder why they randomly chose to bomb a nation? Surelyyyy there must be a reason no?
@@morkael5546 Destruction of SFR Yugoslavia was not done randomly.
It was western plan to destroy country that was real sovereign country (unlike todays EU members countries).
Back in 1949 Yugoslavia shot down two USA airplanes after many complains to not fly over Yugoslavia sky. After destroying aircrafts and killing crew, USA outlets was outrage and demanding dropping atomic bomb to Belgrade.
You had to wait for next 50 years to fulfil plans of destroying country that was not agree to be western (USA more precisely) satellite.
In 2003. you killed our premier as soon as he made clear that hi will not continue to play blindly along USA song...
serbs bombed bosnia slovenia and croatia 4 years
@@unsgus925 Da li Vam je drago sto Jugoslavija nije opstala?
We have the right to support anyone we want!
Keep going so nato drops a few more 🔥🔥🔥
@@morkael5546 So there we are. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Sure, and we have the right to dislike you for it.
@@javaskin You actually don't because your "defensive alliance" did the same thing to us, that Russia is doing to Ukrainie right now. If you knew what shame is, you would just stay quiet when it comes to Serbia.
@@serbsrb Your answer doesn't make sense.
Serbs are so beautiful
How did you conclude that?
@@PsyMOONze visually optically sizzzly
@@sofiebult I mean, in this video?
Great commentary, thank you
From Asia. Salute to Serbia and Russia! Ulla!
The world is still difficult 😥! Peace for the humans! Lets progress today together!
let's! watch the movie. "Oliver Stone Ukraine on fire".
Dream on, The Greeks declared the age of "THE END OF ALL WARS" in 825 BC. Get a gun and support your countries military or you will be a slave someday if you lucky.
20:25
Serb: the nation comes first, then my club...
Interviewer: so Serbia comes first, then Red Star Belgrade
Serb: NO no... Russia first, then Serbia, then my local club
Interviewer: understandable
Me: wow, just WOW
Obvious that he was high on some bad rakia, or the fact that his football team sucks 😝. Jokes aside, it is a sad fact that a part of older generations here in Serbia view the communist (ex sfrj) and then the socialist (ex srj state) with rose-tinted glasses. Especially in the SRJ the relations with Russia where thriwing. I remember that it was all over the new that then Russian president Boris Jelcin would send the army to assist Serbia during the NATO bombing. Even after, the current president Vucic , whos votes depend on the pensioners and people aged above 60, has supported the narative that Russia a "brotherly nation", with Putin attending several army festivals. So to be clear the pro-russian narative has been going on for a very long time, not to the extent that a cadual serbian watches Russia Today ok daily basis, but still it is there. Up side is that the younger people have acess to more information and are able to make up their minds without the propaganda affecting them.
And that is example of biased journalism and propaganda. Let's find a village idiot, and present him as an average citizen, making him stereotype of a nation for decades. And then you say WOW, but in reality you're the same as interviewed person, devoid of any capability for critical thinking.
SERBIAN AND Russian they have the same mind only them who are the best good if they will look what Russia are for the long time they up to now occupied 20 country's and oppress them now they use them in war like pig for meat in second war Russian kill a lot of polish Ukrainian and people there remember what are they today they doing the same like hitler with CZECHOSLOVAK republic if Russia will not attack Poland we don't know how will be war world to end up they are who are responsibility for this mess partly
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@@miker48231 ... and we have all seen how Russia treats its slav brothers...
12:11 "During the wars on Serbian territory, Russia was always a loyal ally." That's a hard stretch to say the least.
I am Serb and we are neutral, peace ✌️
That doesn’t exist I am afraid! You are not neutral, you're flirting with the Russians and “scratching “for the Western capital.
@@bransemlin56 That's your opinion.
You are not neutral. You do all hate Ukraine.
Ukraine also was a friend, close than any slavic nations,
This is more of our hatred towards nato than anything
@@simojovic6358 yeah well nato is a force for good
Словени не постоје!
@@СрпскиЗмај What?
@@simojovic6358 An unjustified Hate.
The problem is "Crimes of Serbian troops" and even on this television they admited that they lied about Rachak,and crimes in there.so pls if you mention crimes you need to mention crimes of Albanians and ,,Yellow House" where Serbians were brutaly murdered.
Sorry but you forgot your murders against ALBANIANS
I'm Romanian and I like Serbia and the Serb people. You have been a true friend for us in this region. However in this situation you should not support Putin's war as he attacked Ukraine (another slavic and Orthodox country). This war brings misery to both Russians and Ukrainians and nobody wins. As Orthodox Christians we should love and respect one another not fight over lands. Ukrainians and Russians are like brothers regardless of politics. слава Богу ☦
Well yes, but this doesn't means alo supporting US of NATO, actually the powers that colonize whole Balkans...
But Ukrainians can attack its Russian population? Is that the logic?
But it's okay if Americans and other NATO countries to bomb Serbia huh?
@DW documentary, when are you going to document the destruction of LIBYA by Nato and allies
Great documentary!
well done as usual from my favorite Deutschland documentary channel
As a Serb, I'm very pleased with this documentary, shows how regular people really feel about this war. I'm honestly neutral and I want this war to be ended ASAP. Živela Ukrajina, živela Rusija! 🇷🇸🤝🇷🇺🇺🇦
Kosovo is Serbia🇧🇷💖🇷🇸
What can you say when the Nazis accuse the. Victims of being Nazis ?
I had been brainwashed by the West media to believe that Nazi belongs to Germany and hated the Jews. It's ironic to see the same zionist Israel supporting Nazi sympathizers in, Israel, Germany, Poland, Serbia, Ukraine, USA, UK, and Scandinavia.
@@edmondparkins1861what nonsense
@@wolfheadedconjuror Does it looks like I care??😒🙄
@@edmondparkins1861 Move to Russia, dont forget your diapers- troll!
Yup made me laugh seeing some ukranians still wearing nazzzi insignia accusing Russia of being nazzis
Now you wonder why Poland became the first Slavic country to recognise Kosovo as an independent state. For us, we are not against Serbia, but we found their love for Russia so poisonous.
Your hate is OK?
Love is not poisonous. Hate is.
Well hang on a second if your fine with that then you will have no problems in recognising Donass region as Russian. Stick to your decision and don't change it.
Poland has a history of heroism. If not for Poland, all of Europe might have fallen to Islamic enslavement. NATO was very wise to rapidly accept Poland as a member state.
@@dejantomic845 no
Why does Serbia want to join the EU? It clearly would be much happier in the Russian camp.
Who said we want to. Its just our puppet goverment that is saying that.
I know right, less democracy, depressing buildings , crappt healthcare
One thing EU won't allow Serbia to join, they learned when they allowed Slovakia and Hungary to join. It's a house where if you all agree to move right, 3 Eastern European countries will move left. It has really harmed the harmony that existed between the Union. I am sure it was a loop hole that made UK to fed up with the Union. One thing I can tell you, Serbia n like to complain, even on the smallest matters. With EU strong grip am sure they will be leaving after 2 years.
The point is ,we do not want ;) but we have to be neutral ,until we retain our streinght to return our lost territory ,Krajina and Srpska ,just wait
@@basasure9065 Thats it, we will return our territories.
🇷🇸❤️🇷🇺 Always against Nazi
After watching this report, I'm convinced that the future of Serbia is not in the EU.
And God bless them for that
@@GottEddy They make great new Russia Province thou ^^
@@bartoszstrzelczyk829 That's for them to decide
@@bartoszstrzelczyk829 yes the Provinz of you mom
We Serbs truly hope so :)
I think its factually incorrect to think Vucic created the Public that is strongly supporting Russia. Serbs felt pro-Russian before Vucic when I was there in 2004 already. Interesting Mr Velebit carries the name of a mountain plateau in Croatia as a surname, maybe a Serb originating from Lika/Krajina?
Yeah. When there was Yugoslavia, the public supported both the U.S.S.R and the U.S. Yet after the NATO bombings of Serbia (1999), public support obviously went towards Russia.
There is no serbs in Croatia, only ortodox vlachs.
@@unsgus925 Right. Oj Ustashi, braco mila duboka je .......
We are simply born into it. Our parents are mostly more or less pro Russian. So naturally their kids tend to be as well. We are taught russians are our biggest friends and those ties should be preserved. And after nato attacks, that sentiment is even stronger. And I'm okay with that :)
@@unsgus925 what century are you in?
The Ukrainians thought that the Russists were their brothers too and see where it got them.
that is because Ukraine wanted to join NATO,while Russia didnt want to happen.
@@lukaobradovic8731 Country A should not care what defensive alliance chooses country B and vice-versa.
@@ionbrad6753 no specially if country B has a lot of country A nationals and country B bans language of country A
@@NoumenonAndPhenomenon Ukraine is historically Russian. You cannot deny that. Also, EU is globohomo
@@gasergaser8629 There was no ban. I just talked to a refugee from Odessa. She is Ukrainian and speakes Russian, here and back home - no problem.
There is a law to move the schooling in Ukrainian language, for the superior grades, true. But this is not a ban on language. It is not good, I find it very unfair too, but this does not deserve the killings.
I have friend from Serbia, who was like this. Supporting Russia. So he went to Russia for a study. In about year and half he came back to Serbia and never wanted to speak of Russia again. He was treated like a shit. People were mocking him as some less person. I remember Russians in Czechoslovakia who were acting the same way. Looking down on other nations.
The Russians consider themselves as the big brothers of the ”lesser slavs”. Thats central in their world view and task of unifying all slavs under their banner.
I had a friend in the USA with the same experience. His name was Mikael Vintoniv. He was half Russian and half Serbian. Hope he is doing well. Great dude!
@@JSarmiento. but let’s not forget, the US has produced more immigrant millionaires then the rest of the world combined.
@@Mrbriangalvan Not sure what does that have to do with my comment. I am saying that my friend had the same experience when he visited family in Russia. He told me he was treated like a dog. After that, he traveled the world and I met him because if another friend from Boston while I was in the US. He was a very interesting guy but we parted ways. i haven't heard from him in a very long time.
I have never heard of anyone from Serbia being treated bad in Russia. Never in my life
Very impressived with the construction guy even though I didn't agree with majority of what he said he's at least open to him being wrong 👏
I love how he is drinking coke while saying how much he hates the west.
Western media is crap ,pure bs
it is weak mindset, our enemies will leap on it so best never give an inch because this world is malicious and sinful
The guy said Russia is in first place,then his country second..These people really mentally they are not ok.
Who do you love NATO NeoNazis 😂😂😂😂😂
Ya like you Ukrainian supporters who puts Ukraine in first place, then your own country 😂
We are slaws !!! We are orthodox! We have always supported each other! Because of our ancestors who gave their life in both great wars ,because we are beautiful people,because we have rich and ancient culture ,because NATO bombed my country for 78 days, because of mother Russia ! Because Russia and Serbia stand together against west imperialism ! Because 1/3 of Serbia men gave their life just in ww1 ! Because 28 countries bombed us ,and we were under sanctions,people were dying starving,and waiting in the lines for a bread ,because West hate us both! Because we hate them ! " Because we have Princip!!!! Because ....because .. becauseeee....
@@basasure9065 join the Russian Federation then?
@@richardchen103 Taiwan is China
Just for context at the end, the mural with Putin originally spelled "Брат" which means brother, but the 'Б' has been painted over leading it to spell "Рат" meaning war.
Brat and Rat, right? lol
Thanks.. I noticed the Pat/war sign and was surprised.. but it makes sense now
..not a very smart slogan if so easily to flip 😉🙃
Also, English Rat XD
When saying NATO ”intervention” and Russian agression does it imply that NATO was, in fact, throwing fertilizers from the air to boost Serbia’s agriculture sector? If so, in the United Nations they have also said this way of supplying fertilizers is illegal so why is it still called "intervention”? Hitting hotels, TV stations, hospitals and other civilian infras instead of sunflower fields should be enough of a proof.
No, it's implying that it happened to shut down Serb aggression. Don't try to pretend you guys were innocent angels.
@@antred11 If you consider NATO as ”angels“ and Serbs as aggressors then why didn’t they get UN approval even though Russia and US were on the same side back then? Could it possibly be there was something wrong with their interpretation of events as, e.g. when they waved with vial of water as a proof that Iraq has WMD?
Brou... we in Serbia (goverment and lot of people) chose to be neutral after 2004. Here , we have very good position on viewing media and propaganda and i think we can easy recognize it. We are in this state, that we have full west media coverage , but we have also full east media coverage too. So we can choose to listen to west or east or hear both side and conclude what we think is right. Some people in my country , we call them "rusofili" - they love and support russia (some % of that people organize protests and support) , and some others , who support the west. In my case , I love and support our neutral position and hope we stay that way, but a big pressure has been put on us to change our politics. Good job to our government, which is under big big pressure, although I do not agree with some of its decisions, I am here to support all the choices that we make independently and for our benefit, and not for others(under pressure). (I hope it doesn't sound wrong and just selfish, I think we should have our own politics, but of course we should continue to take care of everything) :D.
How can you be neutral in the face of extreme violence. You have to be a psychopath.
@@pugjudy7868 why should be there consequences? Staying neutral isnt really "alienation". Serbia is not in a good spot of choosing the side especially not now. Serbia wants to be an open econmy with everyone. Im from germany and the german goverment and other countries are currently biting their arse off because of no gas, wheat, oil etc. because they are very dependant on russia. Serbia wont have it because its doing the best thing right now. Staying neutral and accepting ukrainian refugees.
@@MrGanjaBandits I can't agree with you. Serbia only has a lot to lose if it wants to be belligerent with its neighbours.
A Serbia that is democratic and peaceful with it's neighbours has nothing to fear and has a lot to gain.
Your country just have to give up ideas of a "greater Serbia" which brought so much grief to the region not so long ago.
@@HR_8035_YEA I’ve abandoned the concept of not only greater Serbia but Serbia in general lol. When I was 6. I agree with you to an extent but I feel like I have a unique vantage point by not living there but visiting frequently. If someone decided to attack Serbia for example the only other country that would even consider sending military aid is Russia.
@@pugjudy7868 Economically and culturally speaking, Serbia is much more tied to EU than Russia. Yes, even culturally. The west kinda made the problem for themselves in Serbia. We were portrayed as the bad guys that deserved everything bad that happened to them and a lot of bad things happened to the Serbs in those wars too. After all those years of feeling mistreated, allowing other countries to form on our territory (first with Montenegro's independence and especially Kosovo), while at the same time not letting the Serbs in Bosnia have the same rights for self-determination and now this craziness in Ukraine, where the west firmly supports the UN resolutions and international laws that they crushed so easily in the case with Serbia, the natural response seeing Russia as our ally appeared. Simply because it's anti-nato. Serbs are not nearly as russophilic as they are actually anti-nato. It's a fact. We belong in the EU and we want to be there, but as equals and not as some fools the west thinks we are.
How ignorant can you be ? I really don't understand the people outside of Russia with access to real information thinking Russia is the right side , the educated youth of Russia think Russia IS ON THE WRONG SIDE .....
Same as you writing comment without understanding the background why Serbs generally support Russia.
You are the one who needs enlightenment xD
Access to real information = discredited western mainstream media that works as a veritable arm of their deep state.
You need to stay hydrated
Dude you literally support the current trends without questioning it. You need to get yourself educated
Amazing documentary.. We got the chance to understand unconditional support to Russia from Serbian people.
no you did not, since is not based only on the NATO bombardment... it is also based in the national struggle of the Serbs to free them self from the Ottoman Empire (First and Second Serbian uprising), on Orthodox Christianity, on being Slavs, of the Red Army taking part in liberation of Belgrade in WWII, as on being part of SFRY and socialist memory... it is more complicated than DW puts it...
it was propaganda aimed at the ignorant, ignorant of facts that is. You didn't also notice the anti-Russian participants were shown to be intelligent, educated, sophisticated victims but the pro-Russian participants except one... well I'll sum them up, one was portrayed as not even sure if what he believed was true and the other as a nationalist thug. When you get older... older than the producers of this kind of rehashed-tripe and get some knowledge of facts about the subject, you'll see it for what it is
@@nikolaslavevski3981 true to that. Are you a serb yourself man?
@@kanabis134 no, I'm Macedonian Yugoslav :)
Not really, Kosovo issue and Russian propaganda are the main reasons, only the neo-fascist types go back to "glory of Russian empire that saved the Serbs"
Wow, some refreshing news that actually listen to both sides, incredible!
I'm genuinely happy & surprised that DW is actually reporting objectively on this topic and not censoring the things the ppl say (about distrust in western media, etc.) in order to make them look like bad guys. GJ
Leaving a country just because you don't like its politics does not make you a "refugee".
What if you top it up with very concrete threats of imprisonment and of being totally ostracised for voicing anti-war opinions?
This combined with the western narrative that a lack of vocal opposition to the war equals complicity and partial responsibility on behalf of Russian nationals. This being followed with devastating sanctions on all individuals and organisations.
What other conditions would you propose for such individuals to qualify?