What about near black uniformity (low IRes), and retention. Is it using blue TADF to reach that brightness ditching white subpixel? Lifetime? Sorry for my bad english. Too many questions :D I wish you could answer me...thanks in advance if you do.
Howard C hi! Interesting, as a professional could you tell us what tv do you have in your home or which tv could you recommend, oled or led (sony zd9?) many thanks!
Yeah I work with the X300 on a daily base and it is a great piece of technology. I've seen some problems here and there. If you mainly work in UHD (which leaves the sides with black borders) and than switch to full DCI 4k, you will notice the sides of the screen remain darker as those pixels have not been lit for a long while. But all in all, it's great. At home I have been watching a panasonic GT plasma which always has been very good and close to what we have seen in post production. For my own studio I'm adding a EZ1004 this week. Very anxious to see how good it will match the other reference displays. Keep up the good work Vincent!
it does absolutely, but somewhere at some time a standard has to be set. We invest in great monitors and good, well calibrated enviroments to provide everyone else down the chain with the best possible image. What happens next is beyond our control and it really is up to the tv brands to catch up.
I used to used Sony broadcast monitors for about 15 years in London working in content production. I left 10 years ago but even then the difference between our CRT HD broadcast monitors used for grading and what was available on the high street was just insane. They were tiny and we had to stick a probe on them ever few weeks but what they produced was stunning. The HD LCD Tvs which were available at the time reduced the image quality so much it was frightening. In fact we ended up grading using both a Broadcast monitor and a TV because using the Broadcast monitor on its own in isolation was dangerous because it gave you such a warped view of what people at home would be watching.
I went through this myself, after working in broadcast. In the CRT days, a Sony HD Trinitron was the nearest consumer experience to take back home. It’s now 12 years later and I still can’t make up my mind between LCD and OLED for my next TV, and I have a high-end plasma that still gives greater realism and joy even if it can’t do HDR. But I did walk past this reference OLED at a trade show once. I had to stop in my tracks because I thought I was seeing native interlace, in 2017 of all years. I took a second look and couldn’t understand how a CRT would fit - so I looked up the model number. It was this OLED! It could simulate a CRT’s flickery interlace at 1080i in a way no other LCD or OLED could, and I was in love! Even though it was only a tiny 30 inches, I thought I would live happily ever after with this as my home TV. Until I saw the price. I know how you feel!
These are the displays we use at NBC Sports for quality control during Olympics broadcasts. I’ve written here before about it, but suffice to say it is the best image quality I’ve ever seen, even in a plant filled with the state of the art. It has calibrated my expectations for what is possible from a video display.
I don´t really care about 30.000$ monitors but the fact this guy is so passionate about it make this video very interesting. Always nice to see someone who knows what he´s talking about regarding the theme. Props to you for making this video
You totally deserve this screen from Sony. I am subscribed to many channels but this sticks out completely. Ive never seen someone so talented as you. Im not THAT into TV's but you make me completely addict about TV technology now. There is noone coming close to your knowledge about this, i hope you just grow and grow and grow!
Of all You Tube TV reviewers, you deserve to have this Sony reference monitor! It helps to have the experience of knowing what reference scenes should look like. If anything, we can hope that one day a tv like this will be available!
There is update to this monitor, you have reviwed older version. And the update fixes two of your only complaints about the x300: 1.The new BVM-X300 version 2 add-s HDMI input for blu-ray and UHD players 2. New one-touch relative contrast modes (1/2, 1/3 and 1/4), allowing display of HDR images with higher peak luminance and also other features that i'm not going to list here.
Sony upgrades their top of the line BVM-X300 4K HDR OLED Master Monitor with an HDMI input for easier connection with prosumer video cameras and blu-ray players, in addition to adding another 3G-SDI 4K input for easier system integration. . Existing users, who already own version 1 can also upgrade to version 2 with a paid upgrade The new BVM-X300 version 2 features a new firmware update, which includes new HDR display functionality. Hybrid Log Gamma HDR EOTF setting supporting the new ITU-R BT.2100 standard S-Log 3 (Live HDR) supports easier camera control for live productions New one-touch relative contrast modes (1/2, 1/3 and 1/4), allowing display of HDR images with higher peak luminance Faster access to the status menu page (Colour space, EOTF, User Preset)
SONY PLEASE GIVE THIS MAN THIS TV you can tell he has fallen in love with it 😂 I wish Sony would contact you and surprise you with this TV for yorself man I'm jealous you at least have some strings to even see these types of tvs anyway great video love it
@@ludwigtemmel 😂, all they had to do was include it and price it an extra thousand dollars, you'd think a billion dollar company would be smarter (but this might be their strategy us giving then free marketing)
I hope that people do realize that nearly no single person is buying up these units right? This is used in production and post facilites, not for "personal" projects. It's a rental unit by and large. Anyone sneering at the price or commenting that "I would never spend that much money etc." is overly naive and deficient in understanding how it works on a professional level... Not bashing anybody, but let's just expand the thought process behind these types of products a little bit.
If I hit the lottery I'd buy one in a second, setup a mini man cave in a room the size of a bathroom where there are no windows, just darkness and I sit a few feet in front of this thing and watch 4k blurays.
The measurements are just stunning. Perfection! They say there’s no such thing as a perfect display but I think Sony’s Reference OLED monitor just may be. Great stuff👍🏼
Sony's pvm line is also highly sought after because those CRT's are the highest quality you can get. They're apparently amazing for retro games in RGB.
This level of accuracy has to come to consumer TV's out of the box. :P And damn oled consumer displays need a impulse based rolling scan. CRT image clarity on a OLED would be insane
Hey Vincent I have brought this to the attention of the retail team who work for Sony, i'm sure they'll enjoy watching your excitement when reviewing the Sony reference monitor. It's good to know where the fantastic A1 Picture performance comes from and how that experience is translating from this kind of product to a consumer grade product. I hope that they lend you one long term as you deserve it for your honesty :)!
Rhys Mason - I don't believe this monitor has anything to do with the performance of the (LG panelled) A1. It doesn't use ANY of the tech inside this Monitor. It may have been used in the R&D of the A1, as it may have been used in the R&D of all OLED panels in of all manufacturers.
When will the online community understand that the panel isn't the only important part of the Television. Reviews understand this and even some consumers understand this but online bloggers think that because LG display make LG electronics screens that must mean that LG electronics has as good a picture as anybody using an LG display. But time and time again this has been proven wrong with the HD TV Test shootout winner being Panasonic and Sony for living room TV viewing and the LG only picking up an award on input lag and brightness. To me its clear that Sony have learn lessons from making OLED reference displays and some of those lessons have been brought over to the A1. Infact in Vincients own review he actually basically references this point himself. Just to quote Vincent's own review "The Bravia A1 is an OLED masterclass from Sony. True, the Japanese manufacturer has experience with professional OLED broadcast monitors, but it’s still fascinating to see how the company used every ounce of its video processing expertise to extract the most from OLED panels with a different subpixel layout (WRGB vs RGB) that are sourced from a third party (LG Display)."
THIS IS A JDI RGB OLED SCREEN. LG no technical capacity to produce RGB OLED professional monitor, LG only produces WRGB OLED, TV professional equipment without Korean products, except DRAM memory.
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If anyone's wondering why there are black bars on the sides, it's because the screen actually has a true 4K resolution, i.e. 4096 x 2160 instead of the regular (UHD 16:9) 3840 x 2160.
Pretty sure the display itself is not infamous. That stand however... But seriously the display might actually be ridiculously good at that pricepoint for professionals. If the unit has great colours and grayscale performance on top of the luminance specs and pixel density it's actually a steal at 5k USD.
@@FrntRow believe me I watched it on a brand new 65" LG UHD TV that I bought about 2 days before the episode, you could see things and realise how idiotic the episode was...
Sony is allways at the top of technological achivements. They are actually one of the biggest Professional tv and cinema equipment suppliers. I wonder how is it to look at a monitor like this. Must be amazing.
Norberto - Really? Sony have not had a top contender in the domestic TV area for YEARS, until the A1 came along, and they had to use a panel made by someone else, LG, to acheive that! You sound like another Sony fanboy.
It seems that Sony does not want Sony to do well or dislike Japanese companies, Sony did not know the invention of the 4K TV and 4K TV and movie standards, he is not a European or American home users, SONY can complete all television equipment and outdoor broadcasting System
I hope he doesnt waste his time reviewing an overrated product from the company that makes yesterday's technology at tommorow's price. The very fact that its LCD already means its inferior to this industry standard reference screen.
MicroLED will out perform OLED and LCD displays in every single aspect when it becomes mainstream. From Motion clarity, response times, Sustained Brightness, Contrast. Hopefully they can achieve great colour accuracy aswell
I understand what you’re saying about being speechless. When we learn so much about calibration and we hope that the hdtv’s perform close to standards when we calibrate and we get excited that the hdtv comes close, or we have that experience where we say “ wow this is really good for a consumer panel” then we see this pro monitor and all of a sudden it’s spot on and we are overwhelmed!!! We have it on the dot literally!!!! . Very cool sir very cool when we are floored by something. You know now sir consumer grade will never be enough for you anymore lol.
If you think the Bluray looks good, you should try getting your hands on an archival master from Netflix or Amazon - UHD HDR 16bit RGB 444 JPEG2000 - essentially lossless. The file will be the most massive thing you've ever seen and you won't be able to play it back in real time but if you really want to see that monitor at it's best, that's the way to do it.
dear Vincent, thank you a lot for all your testing- videos. They became my sunday morning must see!! content. hopefully your chanel will grow and become the reference... like this sony monitor.
@@denissssss8579 By what observation did you make this inference? Do you have a movie company (though it really should be named that way) simply because you watched a video on this Sony reference monitor?
Hon Guo ok thanks bro I misread ur comment I thought u said I’m interested to buy the XDR or something yes my fail bro my fail bro my fail bro my fail bro my fail bro my fail bro
+MrWalker1000 Every freaking production company is buying this. Lemme list all the companies using the BVM-X300: Polar, Disney, Microsoft, Dolby, Netflix, Discovery, Deluxe, Technicolor, HBO, 20th Century Fox, Apple, Comcast, Qualcomm, Paramount, PBS and Google There is no competitor to this monitor as of now.
Shivam Maheshwari imagine if Apple placed the 1000 dollars into the price of the display. Would anyone be making memes or making fun of it? I didn’t think so.
@@ShibuyaIncident8173 apple won't do this. Apple knows his fangirls would even buy every gadget they bring out together with their main products like the pencil for 100 dollars 😂😂😂 so after they tested their fans they figured out that there is more to get by their customers.
@@TurkishStyles52 nothing to do with fangirls, idiot. fangirls wont buy the mac pro (atleast not the mid-range upgrade or the maxed out one) and they certainly wont buy the apple display. those two things were made for pros that own a business ... because at the end of the year, they can write off those expenses .. duh. lmao. its almost like people that bash apple have lesser of a brain.
I wonder how long it will be before we get this tech in a consumer TV?? I don't care about sound, I have a full surround setup, I don't really care about apps, I have a pc/tablet for that, all I want is the absolute best picture quality that technology can currently make. I can't be the only one surely??
Probably never. It's just not cost effective, CRTs died a long time ago and you never got the quality of a profesional CRT A.K.A. BVMs. you can get one now but it's not compatible with new technology so it makes no sense to get one unless you are retro gaming or something
I was thinking it wouldn't be a good business idea to make this consumer grade. Why? Cause then it would be harder for companies to persuade is to buy new tv's as it would be harder to make it look like display technology is improving.
This is the display that Apple compared their new Pro Display XDR to. But there are some differences. This is OLED and Apple new monitor has only around 500 to 600 dimming zones.
@@AntTurner Well true but then it already makes sense why it's so much cheaper. We still don't know how color accurate is Pro Display XDR's LCD panel. Since this Sony reference model is hitting all the marks perfectly, I am very curious on Apple's position. I really wonder if they will compare to real reference displays as is this Sony one, or if they just use this for comparison for advertisement purposes. Apple likes to overpromise a lot and sometime even lie or mislead.
@@AntTurner thing is,people who use this monitor dont care for the price,this is used by giant production companies.apple is making a consumer product,they arent in the same league.
+Allan Lamb Yield rate is low and it would drive the price of their OLED TVs up by almost $5000. What makes the BVM-X300 expensive isn't the panel, its the impeccable precision in their factory calibration and the high signal purity electronics inside that make up most of the cost.
Ah...ok. Thank you for the info. Interesting stuff. Though I do still wonder why Sony simply does not manufacture their own OLED panels.....especially as they made the first OLED tv (commercially anyway) as that would seem to mesh with their own image processors (Which many people say are the best) just that much better.
Allan Lamb I firmly believe if only Sony would use their panels both OLED/LCD it would've been something else,Japanese precision,I mean,at a steep price though.It's why i'm still holding onto my 7 1/2 year old Sony's 10 bit LCD RGB backlit full array 46XBR8
Never heard Vincent so sure about what he was talking good for you Vincent the the happiest reviewer I have seen you are probably experiencing what happens to me when when I used to have my Panasonic vt60 and now I have a small 42 inch Samsung because my 1080p Sony is broken it hurts
Best vid yet. Good to see you passionate about a product. Now this is the standard the market needs to demand! I've been staring at pixels a long time to reach this point. Fantasy come true.
So this was almost three years ago. As this technology been implemented in newer displays to any degree? Can this level of accuracy be scaled up to larger displays for home theater?
HiFi Senpai I hope u mean as a computer monitor anything else that size is just silly u can't appreciate 4k at that size unless ur face is on the screen lol my iPad pro is almost the same size
Mr Vincent iam in shock with this small sony monitor,i cant see this same as you seen but i truly belevie you,everyday bring something better and better,future will be amazing soon with technology,have a good day.
It is about the right size for me. Needs to come down in price a little though... Can you hook a PS4 up to it and show us how it displays games? Congrats on your 100th video!
Duffy Sullivan This monitor is what we use on film sets, it is not HDCP compliant and uses sdi. It will not work on ps4 natively without a work around.
Try actually watching the video, and you'll find out!! Why do people post questions about a video that they haven't watched?? Maybe you could answer that MrWalker?
the pro xdr is good but it does have bad things, like it does not come close to this with color accuracy because it is led though there is an advantage that it does not suffer from burn-in, pro xdr does not support displayport and hdmi ports, lastly led suffers from blooming where bright areas leaks to dark areas.
If you place an untouched A1E in Cinema Pro mode with Expert 1 next to the BVM300, they look 1:1 the same. The mistake you and others made with the A1E was adjust the grayscale based on static patterns where the A1E is designed to auto-adjust luminance on a frame-by-frame analysis and auto calibrate imaging to the Judd-Vos standard. The 2017 LG OLED can be expertly calibrated to get close to the BVM300, but the A1E automatically adjust imaging to meet the BVM300 - the only difference is the ability to hit 1000nits.
Before calibrating it for the shootout, we placed our A1E sample beside the BVM-X300 for perceptual matching, and in the default [Cinema Pro] mode with Expert 1 colour temperature, they don't look 1:1 the same.
Hi, I'm a student filmmaker and a £30,000 monitor is totally out of my budget. Can recommend a lower cost professional monitor or consumer TV for a reference monitor when editing or colour grading.
Great video, how does the Pioneer Elite 101fd or 500m compare to this Sony? My fully calibrated 101fd is amazing and the picture pops like no other tv I've seen... My 70" Sharp Elite Pro is pretty damn close to the Pioneer, but I'll go as far as saying the black level is truer and inkier on the Sharp than the Kuro, but I digress. Back in the day, the Pioneer Kuro was "the" reference television! I wonder if some of the Pioneer engineers were on the team that designed this Sony? That wouldn't be too far fetched.
£30,000 is peanuts compared to the cost of lighting, cameras, and software for a professional studio. Let alone compared to the pay of high profile actors.
£ 30,000 professional RGB OLED monitor for the media is not expensive, it is a professional TV used to make money, civil TV is its slave. Slaves must pay taxes to the samurai LOL
haha, that is true. :) however, if you add two of them you are at 60.000€ and that is way expensive than any lens or lighting (expect fujinon cabrio and similar exotic lenses)... but i suppose that studios which have 50-100k€ cameras are able to afford it. :) regards
why that thing is so much more expensive than an EIZO CG 318 4K? (eizo has 1.07 billion colour 10bit RGB, 100%DCIP3 100%Adobe RGB, pre-calibrated, DCI4K, IPS)
My buddy worked for a major studio next to the "mastering" crew. They had a few uber expensive monitors for colour finalisation. Some of those monitors were tube, not flat panel. He said they might calibrate once per day, or more.
but even something like EIZO CG318 4K or dell UP321 8K with excellent calibration, 100% DCI P3 is nowhere expensive (a few thousand bucks, still very expensive but not crazy like 30000).
It's like when I tried a Sennheiser HD800S the first time... I was not even a hi-fi guy (I'm still not necessarily an enthusiast), I didn't know much about sound but the sound quality of this thing was just incredible and unlike anything I've heard. I've heard fucking Freddie Mercury breathing in before singing every line at the exact distance to the microphone he sang to... It's orgasmic and it brought tears to my eyes the first few times I listened to some stuff with it. It's like driving a Ferrari and going back to a Nissan or something. Luckily for me I've won a 2000USD voucher a few months later, coincidentally for a sound shop, and that thing cost me only 1400USD (excluding the other cables and stuff you need to be able to listen to it). I've tried other headphones in the same price category though before buying it and while most of them sounded rather disappointing there were a few other choices like the focal clear pro that gave me the same sensation before I finally decided buying the Sennheiser.
Aside from the obvious increase in resolution, is there really that much difference between it and a C.R.T PVM/and or BVM? Or even the HD C.R.T's (also from Sony)?
imagine buying this monitor and working as a graphic designer. You send your work to the client and he comes back saying that the colors are wrong (on his screen)
Sal Morales The reason they are using WRGB, is because currently there isn't a feasible way to get 1000 nits or more without a considerable increase in power consumption. So until the industry comes up with solution that lowers power requirements, WRGB it will be. What boggles my mind, is the fact they use it for IPS panels, my Vizio 2016 P Series pure RGB IPS and it's glorious.
No , not out of the box. But it isn't necessary anyway, as long as consumer models come close to it. The Panasonic OLED for instance is so accurate that it is now actually used in professional studios it cannot hit 1000 nits though.
Woohoo! Our 100th TH-cam video! How fitting. :-)
HDTVTest congrats
Man I could see the sadness in your eyes knowing you must return it 😩
I hope they give you one as IMO you earned it!
The passion :-) way to go Vincent!
What about near black uniformity (low IRes), and retention. Is it using blue TADF to reach that brightness ditching white subpixel?
Lifetime?
Sorry for my bad english. Too many questions :D
I wish you could answer me...thanks in advance if you do.
Congratulations!!! You are awesome !
Sony hook this man up, otherwise hell never be satisfied again in his life.
Hahahahahaahahahahahahahahaah
My belly is hurting now
Apple's new display does this and is way cheaper
@@TerriTerriHotSauce i dont think itll be equivalent
@@TerriTerriHotSauce It really doesn't, this screen is a tad above
@@TerriTerriHotSauce it's not even OLED
It's like he's describing how great the afterlife is after a near death experience.
did you mean... _the truth_
tvgasm
Actually, TH-cam suggests me clips from The Other Side NDE on the sidebar right now!
@@JavierMendozaAvila Not the truth at all. NDE's aren't proof of an afterlife. They're hallucinations.
this dude looks devastated that he cant keep it and has to go back to consumer grade
HEY PHUC YU
@@jarenong lol 🤣🤣 🤣
probably a consumer grade Sony CRT would help him get out of this distress.
I thought he was going to cry while talking about gamma
It'll be consumer grade quality in 5 years time. High end consumer still then. But display technology moves quickly.
This reminds me of that part in Rick and Morty where Morty experiences "True level" This man will never recover.
this deserves way more likes
Or the Room Temperature
It is so flat.
It is so flat!
If you work in broadcasting as I do, looking at professional monitors all day, you are never happy with your home TV. Drives my wife mad.
Howard C hi! Interesting, as a professional could you tell us what tv do you have in your home or which tv could you recommend, oled or led (sony zd9?) many thanks!
Howard C what do you think Is the best consumer grade tv
Yeah I work with the X300 on a daily base and it is a great piece of technology. I've seen some problems here and there. If you mainly work in UHD (which leaves the sides with black borders) and than switch to full DCI 4k, you will notice the sides of the screen remain darker as those pixels have not been lit for a long while. But all in all, it's great. At home I have been watching a panasonic GT plasma which always has been very good and close to what we have seen in post production. For my own studio I'm adding a EZ1004 this week. Very anxious to see how good it will match the other reference displays. Keep up the good work Vincent!
it does absolutely, but somewhere at some time a standard has to be set. We invest in great monitors and good, well calibrated enviroments to provide everyone else down the chain with the best possible image. What happens next is beyond our control and it really is up to the tv brands to catch up.
You'll like the EZ1004... put a 65EZ1002 in work a few weeks ago.. brilliant... so bought an 65EZ950 for home... ;)
I used to used Sony broadcast monitors for about 15 years in London working in content production. I left 10 years ago but even then the difference between our CRT HD broadcast monitors used for grading and what was available on the high street was just insane. They were tiny and we had to stick a probe on them ever few weeks but what they produced was stunning. The HD LCD Tvs which were available at the time reduced the image quality so much it was frightening. In fact we ended up grading using both a Broadcast monitor and a TV because using the Broadcast monitor on its own in isolation was dangerous because it gave you such a warped view of what people at home would be watching.
I went through this myself, after working in broadcast. In the CRT days, a Sony HD Trinitron was the nearest consumer experience to take back home.
It’s now 12 years later and I still can’t make up my mind between LCD and OLED for my next TV, and I have a high-end plasma that still gives greater realism and joy even if it can’t do HDR.
But I did walk past this reference OLED at a trade show once. I had to stop in my tracks because I thought I was seeing native interlace, in 2017 of all years. I took a second look and couldn’t understand how a CRT would fit - so I looked up the model number. It was this OLED! It could simulate a CRT’s flickery interlace at 1080i in a way no other LCD or OLED could, and I was in love! Even though it was only a tiny 30 inches, I thought I would live happily ever after with this as my home TV.
Until I saw the price. I know how you feel!
These are the displays we use at NBC Sports for quality control during Olympics broadcasts. I’ve written here before about it, but suffice to say it is the best image quality I’ve ever seen, even in a plant filled with the state of the art. It has calibrated my expectations for what is possible from a video display.
You experienced a true level, there is no going back.
Ludak021 😭😭🗣💀
Everything is crooked.
I'll buy one as a second screen for the guest bath room.
Hehe
I don´t really care about 30.000$ monitors but the fact this guy is so passionate about it make this video very interesting. Always nice to see someone who knows what he´s talking about regarding the theme. Props to you for making this video
You totally deserve this screen from Sony. I am subscribed to many channels but this sticks out completely. Ive never seen someone so talented as you. Im not THAT into TV's but you make me completely addict about TV technology now. There is noone coming close to your knowledge about this, i hope you just grow and grow and grow!
The amount of joy in this review is over 9000! Never seen a person so happy i think :)
Man... I gotta be honest, I just fell in love with this video.
I bet he cannot look at another screen the same way ever again. It must be amazing but upsetting at the same time.
jetski Dex well, let’s not exaggerate
I think it's probably kinda like 100hz + displays and then going back to 60 fps.
Mopsie It's not exaggerating. Consumer grade monitors aren't as good.
Of all You Tube TV reviewers, you deserve to have this Sony reference monitor! It helps to have the experience of knowing what reference scenes should look like. If anything, we can hope that one day a tv like this will be available!
For 30 grand I could travel and see these things with my own eyes
Loool
i would play fortnight all day boi
for 30k you can't even eat at the same table as Ben Affleck, but for 30k you can watch him get his ass beat up by the witcher.
..you could travel ALOT
Not Doom Eternal.
Vincent & the BVM-X300 were married recently in a ceremony held at Sony HQ.
He found his Holy Grail of Picture quality.
LOL dude wants to marry the monitor. That's why I love Sony :)
I heard there creamy liquid all over the back of it when he sent it back. Not one for talking
I appreciate and respect the passion you have for image quality here... it is sincere and inspiring... excellent work
There is update to this monitor, you have reviwed older version. And the update fixes two of your only complaints about the x300:
1.The new BVM-X300 version 2 add-s HDMI input for blu-ray and UHD players
2. New one-touch relative contrast modes (1/2, 1/3 and 1/4), allowing display of HDR images with higher peak luminance
and also other features that i'm not going to list here.
Please list the other features, I'm really interested to know
Sony upgrades their top of the line BVM-X300 4K HDR OLED Master Monitor with an HDMI input for easier connection with prosumer video cameras and blu-ray players, in addition to adding another 3G-SDI 4K input for easier system integration. . Existing users, who already own version 1 can also upgrade to version 2 with a paid upgrade
The new BVM-X300 version 2 features a new firmware update, which includes new HDR display functionality.
Hybrid Log Gamma HDR EOTF setting supporting the new ITU-R BT.2100 standard
S-Log 3 (Live HDR) supports easier camera control for live productions
New one-touch relative contrast modes (1/2, 1/3 and 1/4), allowing display of HDR images with higher peak luminance
Faster access to the status menu page (Colour space, EOTF, User Preset)
but ver 2 $45K. =)))) u should never know
Why not
@@kalevt4189 Thanks but will Sony offer (even pricier) a 4K nit version of the monitor just as Dolby offers for a lease?
SONY PLEASE GIVE THIS MAN THIS TV you can tell he has fallen in love with it 😂 I wish Sony would contact you and surprise you with this TV for yorself man I'm jealous you at least have some strings to even see these types of tvs anyway great video love it
They surely can give it to him as a tax write off.
It wouldn't hurt Sony at all.
Yeah, really makes me want to setup a kickstarter campaign or the like to get Vincent one of these tv's lol. It made him so happy.
@@tom11zz884 yeah except he would still have to pay taxes on it. The taxes alone are probably what a new 65 inch TV would cost.
Only if they pair it with a HDCP adapter. Otherwise, what the hell would he watch?
@@Enigmatism415 he obviously has a HDCP adapter already
This is a man of passion…
So this is the monitor Apple was talking about
wack
Nah the stand
@@ludwigtemmel 😂, all they had to do was include it and price it an extra thousand dollars, you'd think a billion dollar company would be smarter (but this might be their strategy us giving then free marketing)
You can buy an OLED 4k monitor for $5000, and not waste the $5000 on Apple LCD crap
Red Harrison and have it burned by one year idiot
I hope that people do realize that nearly no single person is buying up these units right? This is used in production and post facilites, not for "personal" projects. It's a rental unit by and large. Anyone sneering at the price or commenting that "I would never spend that much money etc." is overly naive and deficient in understanding how it works on a professional level... Not bashing anybody, but let's just expand the thought process behind these types of products a little bit.
If I hit the lottery I'd buy one in a second, setup a mini man cave in a room the size of a bathroom where there are no windows, just darkness and I sit a few feet in front of this thing and watch 4k blurays.
Average Delta E : 0.15.
Max Delta E : 1.
What is this madness lol.
Max dE is not 1 it's 0.34 which is insane.
So much true emotions in a monitor review have never been seen before. Great job!
The measurements are just stunning. Perfection! They say there’s no such thing as a perfect display but I think Sony’s Reference OLED monitor just may be. Great stuff👍🏼
Reference is as perfect to life as we can wait microled from sony will be impresive true to life colour super realistic hdr mode
He's like Morty when he experienced true level :D
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Vincent you looked emotionally at times :)
Sony's pvm line is also highly sought after because those CRT's are the highest quality you can get. They're apparently amazing for retro games in RGB.
This level of accuracy has to come to consumer TV's out of the box. :P And damn oled consumer displays need a impulse based rolling scan. CRT image clarity on a OLED would be insane
Hey Vincent
I have brought this to the attention of the retail team who work for Sony, i'm sure they'll enjoy watching your excitement when reviewing the Sony reference monitor. It's good to know where the fantastic A1 Picture performance comes from and how that experience is translating from this kind of product to a consumer grade product. I hope that they lend you one long term as you deserve it for your honesty :)!
Rhys Mason - I don't believe this monitor has anything to do with the performance of the (LG panelled) A1. It doesn't use ANY of the tech inside this Monitor. It may have been used in the R&D of the A1, as it may have been used in the R&D of all OLED panels in of all manufacturers.
When will the online community understand that the panel isn't the only important part of the Television. Reviews understand this and even some consumers understand this but online bloggers think that because LG display make LG electronics screens that must mean that LG electronics has as good a picture as anybody using an LG display. But time and time again this has been proven wrong with the HD TV Test shootout winner being Panasonic and Sony for living room TV viewing and the LG only picking up an award on input lag and brightness. To me its clear that Sony have learn lessons from making OLED reference displays and some of those lessons have been brought over to the A1. Infact in Vincients own review he actually basically references this point himself.
Just to quote Vincent's own review "The Bravia A1 is an OLED masterclass from Sony. True, the Japanese manufacturer has experience with professional OLED broadcast monitors, but it’s still fascinating to see how the company used every ounce of its video processing expertise to extract the most from OLED panels with a different subpixel layout (WRGB vs RGB) that are sourced from a third party (LG Display)."
THIS IS A JDI RGB OLED SCREEN. LG no technical capacity to produce RGB OLED professional monitor, LG only produces WRGB OLED, TV professional equipment without Korean products, except DRAM memory.
If anyone's wondering why there are black bars on the sides, it's because the screen actually has a true 4K resolution, i.e. 4096 x 2160 instead of the regular (UHD 16:9) 3840 x 2160.
TH-cam: Hey! here is a video with a guy talking about a monitor that you can never afford.
Me: Yes, please.
Buy a spec out Mac pro including the TV n stand and showcase us with stuff you will never figure out!
most of youtube is like that for me. hahahah
Drop test?😁
It's not a trick it's a Sony
Apple pro stand got me here
Please do a video of the infamous XDR display
Pretty sure the display itself is not infamous. That stand however... But seriously the display might actually be ridiculously good at that pricepoint for professionals. If the unit has great colours and grayscale performance on top of the luminance specs and pixel density it's actually a steal at 5k USD.
Firstly apple don’t know nothing about reference level displays.
Secondly NO LED will ever match this true rgb oled
Never
One day someone will talk about me the way Vincent talks about this TV!
Serious tech envy right now!
One day we’ll have this quality at home.
Maybe next year.
The monitor needed for GOT S08e03
Your old TV saved your the torture of having to watch season 8
You'd only see more awful writing :D
@@FrntRow believe me I watched it on a brand new 65" LG UHD TV that I bought about 2 days before the episode, you could see things and realise how idiotic the episode was...
We need to get this video 30m views so he can buy one
Sony is allways at the top of technological achivements. They are actually one of the biggest Professional tv and cinema equipment suppliers. I wonder how is it to look at a monitor like this. Must be amazing.
Norberto - Really? Sony have not had a top contender in the domestic TV area for YEARS, until the A1 came along, and they had to use a panel made by someone else, LG, to acheive that! You sound like another Sony fanboy.
ONLY
Please. Sony sucks major ass. And its stuff is way overpriced.
MattyPeq why?
It seems that Sony does not want Sony to do well or dislike Japanese companies, Sony did not know the invention of the 4K TV and 4K TV and movie standards, he is not a European or American home users, SONY can complete all television equipment and outdoor broadcasting System
Please review the new Apple 6k Pro Monitor, to comparison it with this, as they make out that theirs is as good just cheaper.
I hope he doesnt waste his time reviewing an overrated product from the company that makes yesterday's technology at tommorow's price. The very fact that its LCD already means its inferior to this industry standard reference screen.
That’s the exact reason I want him to compare it, to show why theirs is not comparable. Probably only referenced it to make theirs look affordable.
@@Numkinwig good point. I cannot even believe they compared it 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It's not just that LCD can't match the OLED black levels, is also the fine detail that LCD will never get.
MicroLED will out perform OLED and LCD displays in every single aspect when it becomes mainstream.
From Motion clarity, response times, Sustained Brightness, Contrast. Hopefully they can achieve great colour accuracy aswell
According to this review I'm worth about £3000.
So nice to see that a product still makes you so awestruck. Love your passion. Thanks for sharing.
“The mind, once stretched by a new idea, never returns to its original dimensions.”
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
I understand what you’re saying about being speechless. When we learn so much about calibration and we hope that the hdtv’s perform close to standards when we calibrate and we get excited that the hdtv comes close, or we have that experience where we say “ wow this is really good for a consumer panel” then we see this pro monitor and all of a sudden it’s spot on and we are overwhelmed!!! We have it on the dot literally!!!! . Very cool sir very cool when we are floored by something. You know now sir consumer grade will never be enough for you anymore lol.
If you think the Bluray looks good, you should try getting your hands on an archival master from Netflix or Amazon - UHD HDR 16bit RGB 444 JPEG2000 - essentially lossless. The file will be the most massive thing you've ever seen and you won't be able to play it back in real time but if you really want to see that monitor at it's best, that's the way to do it.
What is this ?
Can we regular consumer download it or buy it ?
he says 'for all intents and purposes' clearly... A+
I want this one for newer games and an Old School BVM for my SD game systems.
dear Vincent, thank you a lot for all your testing- videos. They became my sunday morning must see!! content. hopefully your chanel will grow and become the reference... like this sony monitor.
Sony should give you one for making such a great review!
Watching this video, I really look forward to a review of the coming Pro Display XDR.
Hon Guo do u have a movie company?
@@denissssss8579 Surely no
Hon Guo so why do u wanna spend 6000€ for a monitor r u rich?
@@denissssss8579 By what observation did you make this inference? Do you have a movie company (though it really should be named that way) simply because you watched a video on this Sony reference monitor?
Hon Guo ok thanks bro I misread ur comment I thought u said I’m interested to buy the XDR or something yes my fail bro my fail bro my fail bro my fail bro my fail bro my fail bro
For £30.000 you bloody well expect it to be perfect,crazy money.
liukangstoupee there are lots of Brands though and ones maybe not known to the mainstream. I don't think every production company will go for this.
+MrWalker1000 Every freaking production company is buying this. Lemme list all the companies using the BVM-X300:
Polar, Disney, Microsoft, Dolby, Netflix, Discovery, Deluxe, Technicolor, HBO, 20th Century Fox, Apple, Comcast, Qualcomm, Paramount, PBS and Google
There is no competitor to this monitor as of now.
Semi Con - After reading most of MrWalkers comments on this thread, it appears that he's a Moron.
MrWalker - You talk so much crap on here, I've decided that you're just a time wasting idiot.
@@MrWalker1000 like what?
Wow! What a great picture quality on that TV seen through my phone. I wish my phone could display those colors that I see on my phone now!
What do you think about the new apple pro xdr display?
and the pro stand?
@@shivammaheshwari5519 xD
Shivam Maheshwari imagine if Apple placed the 1000 dollars into the price of the display. Would anyone be making memes or making fun of it? I didn’t think so.
@@ShibuyaIncident8173 apple won't do this. Apple knows his fangirls would even buy every gadget they bring out together with their main products like the pencil for 100 dollars 😂😂😂 so after they tested their fans they figured out that there is more to get by their customers.
@@TurkishStyles52 nothing to do with fangirls, idiot. fangirls wont buy the mac pro (atleast not the mid-range upgrade or the maxed out one) and they certainly wont buy the apple display.
those two things were made for pros that own a business ... because at the end of the year, they can write off those expenses .. duh. lmao. its almost like people that bash apple have lesser of a brain.
I wonder how long it will be before we get this tech in a consumer TV?? I don't care about sound, I have a full surround setup, I don't really care about apps, I have a pc/tablet for that, all I want is the absolute best picture quality that technology can currently make.
I can't be the only one surely??
Probably not before microLED gets mainstream. And who knows, maybe that display technology has its own downsides compared to regular LCD and OLED.
Probably never. It's just not cost effective, CRTs died a long time ago and you never got the quality of a profesional CRT A.K.A. BVMs. you can get one now but it's not compatible with new technology so it makes no sense to get one unless you are retro gaming or something
@@cortbelmont Yes, retro gamers use that
I was thinking it wouldn't be a good business idea to make this consumer grade. Why? Cause then it would be harder for companies to persuade is to buy new tv's as it would be harder to make it look like display technology is improving.
Vincent's truh love: this professional monitor from SONY!
This is the display that Apple compared their new Pro Display XDR to. But there are some differences. This is OLED and Apple new monitor has only around 500 to 600 dimming zones.
Apple's display is also 1/6 the price, there's going to be a trade off
@@AntTurner Well true but then it already makes sense why it's so much cheaper. We still don't know how color accurate is Pro Display XDR's LCD panel. Since this Sony reference model is hitting all the marks perfectly, I am very curious on Apple's position. I really wonder if they will compare to real reference displays as is this Sony one, or if they just use this for comparison for advertisement purposes. Apple likes to overpromise a lot and sometime even lie or mislead.
@@AntTurner thing is,people who use this monitor dont care for the price,this is used by giant production companies.apple is making a consumer product,they arent in the same league.
Excellent review Vincent.Perhaps it's SONY'S own panel?
Yes, it's Sony's own panel.
HDTVTest wow.... If Sony can make such amazing quality using their own panel.... Why doesn't Sony make their own OLED panels for their OLED tvs?
+Allan Lamb Yield rate is low and it would drive the price of their OLED TVs up by almost $5000. What makes the BVM-X300 expensive isn't the panel, its the impeccable precision in their factory calibration and the high signal purity electronics inside that make up most of the cost.
Ah...ok. Thank you for the info. Interesting stuff. Though I do still wonder why Sony simply does not manufacture their own OLED panels.....especially as they made the first OLED tv (commercially anyway) as that would seem to mesh with their own image processors (Which many people say are the best) just that much better.
Allan Lamb I firmly believe if only Sony would use their panels both OLED/LCD it would've been something else,Japanese precision,I mean,at a steep price though.It's why i'm still holding onto my 7 1/2 year old Sony's 10 bit LCD RGB backlit full array 46XBR8
Never heard Vincent so sure about what he was talking good for you Vincent the the happiest reviewer I have seen you are probably experiencing what happens to me when when I used to have my Panasonic vt60 and now I have a small 42 inch Samsung because my 1080p Sony is broken it hurts
1997 flashback. Small expensive LCD T.V.'s.
Trinitron
This is how I felt the first week I had my OLED tv. lol. I know it’s not the same, but the feeling is. I’m still amazed with it.
SONY has the only Academy award winning monitor. Nobody makes a better OLED.
#FAST. with more than 2 Awards for this monitor and its RGB not that RGBW shit we get
whens the Z9E coming out?
AJ Tautolo exactly not to mention it might get an award for the upcoming z9e.
Sony 2017 lineups are better than Samsung offerings
Sony's OLED panels are made by LG btw!
Davy Bloggs not this one, this is made by sony from ground up
6:33
Vincent: "How low are the errors on this monitor?"
Sony: "Yes."
I don't ever want to see this tv in person. This would be so good that going back to any affordable consumer tv would be painfully obvious.
Microbian 9L I think it’s a referendum monitor, not a tv.
Best vid yet. Good to see you passionate about a product. Now this is the standard the market needs to demand! I've been staring at pixels a long time to reach this point. Fantasy come true.
You look like someone who would have perfected the summoning Jutsu
So this was almost three years ago. As this technology been implemented in newer displays to any degree? Can this level of accuracy be scaled up to larger displays for home theater?
Why aren't OLED TV's being released in sizes below 55 inches? Would like to see some soon.
HiFi Senpai lg can’t make the panels that small
HiFi Senpai get an oled laptop is u want a small oled display
Can't or won't? Sony can make this small monitor sooooo..?
Hmm the smallest screen I'd settle for is a monitor size, seen in the video. Anything smaller is eh.
HiFi Senpai I hope u mean as a computer monitor anything else that size is just silly u can't appreciate 4k at that size unless ur face is on the screen lol my iPad pro is almost the same size
what is the main difference and purpose between a TV and a monitor ???
If you guys made a similar video to this for the Sony PVM-X550 55" Oled professional monitor that would be great.
This video is a dream come true thank you for the development of this video
Vincent has seen the LIGHT ! :-)
Mr Vincent iam in shock with this small sony monitor,i cant see this same as you seen but i truly belevie you,everyday bring something better and better,future will be amazing soon with technology,have a good day.
It is about the right size for me. Needs to come down in price a little though... Can you hook a PS4 up to it and show us how it displays games? Congrats on your 100th video!
Duffy Sullivan
This monitor is what we use on film sets, it is not HDCP compliant and uses sdi. It will not work on ps4 natively without a work around.
I see, thanks for the heads up.
Duffy Sullivan isnt this for professional use? How much does it cost
Try actually watching the video, and you'll find out!! Why do people post questions about a video that they haven't watched?? Maybe you could answer that MrWalker?
You can turn off HDCP on PS4.
Vincent your enthusiasm made me smile, nice to see when someone is so genuinely passionate about something. I wish I could buy this display for you :)
Makes the apple pro XDR feel its free !!!!
the pro xdr is good but it does have bad things,
like it does not come close to this with color accuracy because it is led though there is an advantage that it does not suffer from burn-in,
pro xdr does not support displayport and hdmi ports,
lastly led suffers from blooming where bright areas leaks to dark areas.
If you place an untouched A1E in Cinema Pro mode with Expert 1 next to the BVM300, they look 1:1 the same. The mistake you and others made with the A1E was adjust the grayscale based on static patterns where the A1E is designed to auto-adjust luminance on a frame-by-frame analysis and auto calibrate imaging to the Judd-Vos standard. The 2017 LG OLED can be expertly calibrated to get close to the BVM300, but the A1E automatically adjust imaging to meet the BVM300 - the only difference is the ability to hit 1000nits.
Before calibrating it for the shootout, we placed our A1E sample beside the BVM-X300 for perceptual matching, and in the default [Cinema Pro] mode with Expert 1 colour temperature, they don't look 1:1 the same.
No white filtered oled will ever look 1:1 with a true rgb oled. The colours even after callibration don’t match the true rgb.
Seems like he is really impressed xD
Hi, I'm a student filmmaker and a £30,000 monitor is totally out of my budget. Can recommend a lower cost professional monitor or consumer TV for a reference monitor when editing or colour grading.
For that price it better should be the best available..
Great video, how does the Pioneer Elite 101fd or 500m compare to this Sony? My fully calibrated 101fd is amazing and the picture pops like no other tv I've seen... My 70" Sharp Elite Pro is pretty damn close to the Pioneer, but I'll go as far as saying the black level is truer and inkier on the Sharp than the Kuro, but I digress. Back in the day, the Pioneer Kuro was "the" reference television!
I wonder if some of the Pioneer engineers were on the team that designed this Sony? That wouldn't be too far fetched.
you should do ASMR tech reviews
This thing is basically like the "kilogram" of displays then, huh? The perfect reference point to measure/grade everything else around it.
£30,000 is peanuts compared to the cost of lighting, cameras, and software for a professional studio. Let alone compared to the pay of high profile actors.
£ 30,000 professional RGB OLED monitor for the media is not expensive, it is a professional TV used to make money, civil TV is its slave. Slaves must pay taxes to the samurai LOL
haha, that is true. :) however, if you add two of them you are at 60.000€ and that is way expensive than any lens or lighting (expect fujinon cabrio and similar exotic lenses)...
but i suppose that studios which have 50-100k€ cameras are able to afford it. :)
regards
松下EZ1000系列POLED PRO是14BIT,8.6十億色彩2048灰度等級,100萬:1的對比度,1000NIT的亮度,顏色是正常的OLED彩色約9倍,亮度是等離子的2.5倍的水平,以實現等離子電視,這是等離子技術的松下POLED PRO電視,色彩和亮度/對比度都是血漿水平,PDP具有最高等離子體的基礎上發展起來的水平10年前達到680十億種顏色。該PDP還沒有延時的問題。它消耗更多的能量和電視機的音量是一個問題。這類公司如LG,三星不生產自己的專業相機和後期製作設備,14-16BIT錄像機/攝像機/音頻採集設備等(他們習慣了依賴松下/日立PDP)的,SONY's X300 RGB professional TV colors are 8.6 billion colors - 28.9 billion colors (14-16BIT), brightness And contrast is civilian WRGB / RGB level incomparable.
why that thing is so much more expensive than an EIZO CG 318 4K? (eizo has 1.07 billion colour 10bit RGB, 100%DCIP3 100%Adobe RGB, pre-calibrated, DCI4K, IPS)
My buddy worked for a major studio next to the "mastering" crew. They had a few uber expensive monitors for colour finalisation. Some of those monitors were tube, not flat panel. He said they might calibrate once per day, or more.
yes, it's accurate because it's already calibrated for all possible modes to perfection while manufacturing, that's why the price is steep.
novcze no it's the only RGB oled
Apparently the panel itself isn't as expensive, its the signal processing equipment inside and the calibration process that's very expensive.
but even something like EIZO CG318 4K or dell UP321 8K with excellent calibration, 100% DCI P3 is nowhere expensive (a few thousand bucks, still very expensive but not crazy like 30000).
It's like when I tried a Sennheiser HD800S the first time... I was not even a hi-fi guy (I'm still not necessarily an enthusiast), I didn't know much about sound but the sound quality of this thing was just incredible and unlike anything I've heard. I've heard fucking Freddie Mercury breathing in before singing every line at the exact distance to the microphone he sang to... It's orgasmic and it brought tears to my eyes the first few times I listened to some stuff with it.
It's like driving a Ferrari and going back to a Nissan or something.
Luckily for me I've won a 2000USD voucher a few months later, coincidentally for a sound shop, and that thing cost me only 1400USD (excluding the other cables and stuff you need to be able to listen to it). I've tried other headphones in the same price category though before buying it and while most of them sounded rather disappointing there were a few other choices like the focal clear pro that gave me the same sensation before I finally decided buying the Sennheiser.
That's because it's Actually REAL SONY !!!
John Doe Their OLEDs because the panels are manufactured by LG
Aside from the obvious increase in resolution, is there really that much difference between it and a C.R.T PVM/and or BVM? Or even the HD C.R.T's (also from Sony)?
wooo in 5 years ill buy this!!!
The most appreciate and thankful quality i ever see is watching through my eyes..
Picturegasm!
P-OLED PRO
imagine buying this monitor and working as a graphic designer. You send your work to the client and he comes back saying that the colors are wrong (on his screen)
will we at some point get this accuracy in a consumer display.
Benjamin Jensen probably not cause lg will most likely stick to wrgb oled.
Sal Morales The reason they are using WRGB, is because currently there isn't a feasible way to get 1000 nits or more without a considerable increase in power consumption. So until the industry comes up with solution that lowers power requirements, WRGB it will be.
What boggles my mind, is the fact they use it for IPS panels, my Vizio 2016 P Series pure RGB IPS and it's glorious.
No , not out of the box. But it isn't necessary anyway, as long as consumer models come close to it. The Panasonic OLED for instance is so accurate that it is now actually used in professional studios it cannot hit 1000 nits though.
Never on a white filtered LG manufacture oled. Never
I predict 15 to 20 years till we get image quality of this level
6:39 That colour-checker result... sweet Jesus.
Never mind greyscale and gamut; *that's* the one that makes displays shit the bed.