OH NO!!! 5 Things About Buying a Used Jeep TJ Wrangler // What to look at for your next purchase
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- How many times has this happened to you?
You see a really nice used 1997-2006 Jeep TJ Wrangler...
You pull into the used car lot (or someone's front yard)...
You check it out, looks solid...
You take it for a test drive... no strange sounds...
You make the purchase...
Then you take it to your local garage, and next thing you know, there are 15 things that need to be fixed before it can be road legal, and your bill now costs more than you spent on the vehicle??? What just happened???
We've all been there at one point or another. And if you haven't, you know someone who has been.
At SFJ, we believe in being as prepared as possible when picking out your next vehicle, especially in today's times when saving money wherever possible is critical. In this video, Neil takes a look at 5 things to make sure you check out when buying your next used 1997 - 2006 Jeep TJ Wrangler. Is it the ultimate checklist?? Of course not, but for the average person, these 5 things will give you an idea of just how much work you're getting yourself into, and how much money you may have to put in to make it your dream Jeep.
Neil takes an in-depth look at problems affecting the frame/body, the steering/suspension, wiring, tops/covers, and modifications.
If the seller will allow it, SFJ also offers a "Crawl Over Inspection" where we'll give your perspective new vehicle a multi-point inspection and report our expert opinion on the vehicle's condition. To see if this service is still available, reach out to us at www.SFJ4x4.com, call us at (440) 813-3663, or visit us at the shop at 324 Orange Street in Conneaut, Ohio.
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I don't get why there's so much hate on TJs in the comments. I am no mechanic and this is one of the easiest cars to work on. Installed my own lift kit, sway bar disconnects, winch, new soft top, stereo system, fenders, etc. This is really the GoldiLocks of wranglers, modern enough to be daily driven, oldschool enough to be considered a Jeep... small two door 4x4 vehicle. Very versatile and reliable 4.0L
Honestly, that's part of the problem with them. Anyone and everyone can tinker with them. I just bought a run-and-drive TJ from Copart. It does run and drive. The engine and transmission are great. What's not great: the door and body are bashed in, the front drive shaft is bent, the u joints are shot, the tie rod ends are shot, the steering damper is leaking, the alignment is off, the tires are unevenly worn bare, the battery cable is corroded, the exhaust is leaking, the lug studs are too short for the aftermarket wheels, and there are wires and switches everywhere for aftermarket audio systems and light bars. All of these are pretty easy to deal with, but the mechanic wanted over 4k to get it in good order. The previous owner was hard on it. But worst of all, her sloppy modifications damaged it.
@@---cr8nw that just sounds like you bought a shitty one tbh.
@@ianmontesinos1001, I did. You're right. But I bought it at an auction 550 miles away. If I had seen what the previous owner(s) had done to it, I wouldn't have bid on it.
Some people are just born difficult bro
Mmma
The key is just to live somewhere where rust isn't an issue, and don't buy jeeps from people that do nasty modifications to wiring and accessories. Not a bad video per say, but it is extremely limited on content as most of the things you mention are solely related to rust.
Here's a few of my tips for people interested in buying a TJ. ( I bought one earlier this year and it needed a lot of work)
1. Check the Cylinder head for cracks between the 3 and 4 cylinders. It is easy to do. Just start the jeep with the oil cap off, let it warm up and use a flashlight to look for bubbling/fluid on the metal right below the fill hole. It will appear on the crack line if there is a crack there. (especially common on 00-02 4.0L engine) Do not purchase if there are bubbles. Engine is already damaged.
2. Check that the air conditioning (if optioned) and the heat is functional. Make sure that you can hear the blend door motor spinning when you change the temperature. It is not uncommon for the heater core to leak and the coolant leak to drip down and kill the blend door motor completely. Also check that the lower foot vents are dry and don't smell sweet like coolant. This is to check for heater core leak as well. Heater cores are not too expensive if you need to change one. But it is not a fun or easy job if you don't know what you are doing. A shop will likely charge you over $500 in labor to change one.
3. Check that the factory fan clutch is there and functioning. Electric fans are a band aid that some utilize to attempt to fix an overheating problem. Jeep TJ's should heat up to about 210 on the temp gauge and never go higher after that. Do not let an overheating problem fly. I live in the 118 degree (Fahrenheit) desert and my jeep never gets over 210.
4. MAKE SURE THERE ARE MAINTENANCE RECORDS for oil changes and other wear items (ie transmission fluid, brakes, shocks, etc)
5. Oil pressure should be above 20 at idle. If it is below, then WALK AWAY
6. Check automatic trans fluid and make sure it is at least slightly pink in color. If its black, then WALK AWAY.
7. Check the tires and their date codes. Be aware if tires are going to be needed and account for that in price.
8. Check the top. Tops are expensive as noted in this video. Best top is a good brand generally. But make sure that everything is functional/zippable. If it isn't functional and is old and rotted, the seller should be giving you a break on price.
9. Make sure that 4WD high and low both engage properly with a smooth fast shift of the lever. (Make sure you know how to shift this properly before going to check out a Jeep)
10. Listen for knocking/ticking noises when driving. If it is an auto transmission, the bell housing bolts may back out and start contacting the torque converter making a knocking sound. Knocking could also be a sign of piston skirt failure or other extensive engine issues. AVOID THESE JEEPS if you're reading this/watching this video. Only those that work on jeeps themselves can make a jeep that is this broken worth salvaging.
Thanks for reading. That's all I can think of for now. Good luck finding a nice TJ. They are hard to come by now.
If you do come across one. Take good care of it! Keep on Jeepin on!
All great information, thanks brother!!!
Decommissioned an old undercover LJ, whatever mechanic or officer wired everything was clearly a functional psychopath.
THANK YOU ! I'm going to print this list out and carry it on my journey/hunt for a TJ. I'm in no hurry just love learning these things.
Bought mine new off the lot in ‘98. It’s still my daily driver.
A few years ago I went with a friend to a town about 25 miles away, He bought a very good looking one and the first railroad we crossed coming home the under part of the frame separated and the right wheel moved forward about 2 inches in front of the other. This is great info for The jeep or any community.
Ouch! Thank you
Yeah. It’s worth having an inspection done on an old Jeep. Especially if it has seen salt.
THIS is the kinda guy you want with you when purchasing a used car. Great video, especially since I am from up north and I am trying to navigate purchasing a TJ with no major frame rust.
Thank you!
I restore Jeep Tj's.
My top five are as follows...more focused on engine.
1. Oil pressure, (provided the sensor is good) Low oil pressure at speed means crank bearings are getting worn allowing oil to pass with no back pressure. You should have > 40 psi at speed and
Great info SFJ! Not just for people looking to buy a used TJ/LJ but also people looking to maintain their current one 👍 0IIIIIII0
Thanks! No year has been more important than this one to make sure you're protecting your investments and making solid decisions about where your hard-earned cash is being spent.
I bought my 04 TJ Rubicon 4 months ago no problems no rust it's been well taken care of, and it continues to be well taken care of. Awesome video
My 2001 jeep tj 4.0, 5 speed manual has 208,000 miles and drives amazing! Awesome daily driver 👍🏼
Mine is a 2005 TJ Unlimited 4.0 I6 4.5 lift with 35” Mickey Thompson. Fully modified with only 10k miles. Trailer queen! Lol
I just bought a 2001 jeep tj 5 speed manual. It had 175k miles
I bought a 2001 TJ in 2004 and it had 55k miles. Now, she had 189k miles and sits in my garage. I need to sell it, but I just can't....too hard to do. So I keep fixing it and drive it maybe 20 miles per month 🙃
It took me three months to find my '05 TJ Rocky Mtn. Ideally you would like a rust free frame, strong engine, transmission and transfer case. 3.73 gears, Dana 44 and well maintained. And this is exactly what I found in this '05 TJ. Despite coming from Ocracoke Island NC with all that salt water/air the frame is immaculate. The original owner was wise enough to get professional undercoating and it shows. I thought I had found my TJ five times before I found this Rocky Mtn. They all had rotted out frames and there's no way I'm paying $4k for a new frame. You have to realize these TJ's regardless of their location will require some tcl. Mine needed a rear main seal and heater core. Also the ac orifice tube and ac compressor were shot. Outside of these, this TJ has been the best vehicle I've had. Modest 2" lift on 32" Bfg ko2's with classic Baja gunmetal alloy rims. With basic routine maintenance, these 4.0's I6 engines will last forever!
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'41 - '06
Great information. Videos like these were what I used for reference when I bought my 97 TJ last year with 210,000 miles on it. Checked frame, suspension, engine performance and handling to figure out it was a steal since it had about 10 grand in custom work already done to it. You can never get enough information when it's your hard earned money your spending.
What did you pay for it?
This dude is the Bob Ross inspector of jeeps. Excellent knowledge and delivery of info.
Take that jeep, paint it yellow, and that’s by and large the Jeep I bought. The salt in the wound is I took the trouble to hire a “mechanic” to inspect the vehicle and he gave it the a-ok, and it wasn’t, not by a long shot. By the time I figured this out, too much time had passed for me to sue. This is an excellent video on the areas of a Jeep TJ to be wary of before you buy.
Anyone that tries to hide a rusted frame with bondo should be forced by law to pay the unlucky buyer double what they sold it for.
Dude, I absolutely LOVE my 2001 TJ. It has a couple spots on the frame that are somewhat questionable but it’s very fixable and NOT severe, I just have to take it to a place when I have time to get it fixed.
I’ve learned how to do a lot of regular maintenance on it, and it’s very easy to work on. The 4.0 is super reliable as long as you give it regular maintenance, just like any other solidly built engine. Idk why people are giving it crap lol
People will give anything crap. I had a TJ 3 years ago and am picking up another one this Monday. I’m so stoked lol
Basically, if you want to save yourself the trouble. Go to a southern state where it does not snow, get yourself a Jeep there so there is no salt damage. Also makes sure its stock, put the upgrades on yourself or pay someone for professional install. So many people have no idea how to build Jeeps and cause severe damage to them trying to upgrade them or trashing their Jeep while off roading. I have a 99 TJ that has a small tear in the driver seat, everything else looks good.
I did just that. Found an '03 in South Carolina from a guy that buys, builds up and flips Jeeps for the love of it. Best move this Bay-stater did for finding a sweet TJ.
@@shorelinedigital Got my 04 TJ from SC as well.
Good advice as long as it's not ran on the beach or through salt water. Or flooded in hurricane.
Lol. I can guess where your tear is. Got the same one. These Jeep's have their nuances.
Just watch out for flooded/rushed title washed cars....
Glad I live in Idaho. I looked for 2 years for my 2005 LJ. Bought it in 2015 no rust at all original paint on Body and frame. With a lot of the original part number stickers. Still own it very happy with it. Will never get rid of it.
Haha same story with me, 2006 Rubicon. Believe it or not, I got mine in Chicago area, not a spot of rust on the frame anywhere. Lucky for me the original owner got this Jeep in Texas and only had it up north for two winters. And he did not drive it one time in the salt, kept it in a garage for only $1000 a month. First thing I did was rustproof the hell out of the frame inside and out.
Man, you guys just scared me out of a potential buy. I didnt look for half this stuff. Appreciate your knowledge, and thanks for sharing. Great video
Glad to help
TJ - the best made Jeep of all time (99 and prior). Before Mercedes screwed it up, making them the mechanical liability they are today. Arguably the easiest platform to work on off almost any vehicle on the market, and if you can get one with the 4.0L and 3 speed auto, with regular maintenance, it should last for a very long time!
'98 40 I6 TJ here. It is a joy to work on, lots of room under the hood.
Why you say 99 and prior, and not 97-06?
3 speed auto 🤮. The only thing that makes something this slow fun to drive are the trails and manual transmission.
Rust from Northern states is expected especially after 23 years, I bought mine from GA. 4 years ago with not a speck of rust for 6600, now doing complete restore with new engine$$$$$
I bought a 1997 Jeep TJ SE this year and it had several issues that were easily fixed including a horrendous wiring job of some aftermarket fog lights. One issue I did not realize till after I bought it was the HVAC Door Lever was sheared. The part was cheap but it was in a difficult spot to replace and since the panel vents were not working the AC was disconnected. After the repair I had my vents and AC working. Other issues were a bad upstream O2 sensor causing it to run rough until the engine got warm which was another easy fix. There were also several top parts installed either wrong or for the wrong top. As a new Jeep owner, it took me a while to sort that all out, as it came with a Hard Top, Soft Top, and Bikini Top. Overall it was in excellent condition with zero rust, good bushings, no leaks, and never used off road with relatively low miles. Great Video!
Sounds like your jeep is in nice shape. :) I also own a rust free jeep because I live in AZ. Keep yours that way. It will be worth its weight in gold sooner than later. :)
I have a 05 Tj love it and care for it got it last year 60k miles. Paid 13k.
Have had a 2006 65th anniversary edition since 09 currently painting the frame and plan on doing necessary body repairs i love it wont sell it
Thanks Yall ,I ALMOST bought a Jeep today ,Long Story Short ,I didn't, Came home watched the video,Glad I didn't, Definitely a 20 footer,I'll still get one but I'll definitely look it over,Great info
I enjoy fixing those beat up rusty TJ's. It's amazing what you can do with some fabrication knowledge and the right materials/tools.
Do you have any photos of restored TJ s.
Yes, they are sweet! I have just almost completed a 98, I still need to replace tailgate hinges, and floor pans. This Jeep will be my Jeep, so I will wait until spring to finish it. I did not go back to stock. It won’t be for the Jeep purest. I installed pipe fenders, replaced both bumpers, and the grill, with a shark grill. I had to repair the linkage, the 4WD switch is bad also, so I will be replacing it. Next to go on it, will be my winch. I looked at allot of Jeep adds, before I purchased this jeep, the thing, I was was looking for, was to make sure, the frame was not rusting out. Most of the Jeep’s out there, that I have looked at, the frames were shot. When the frame is gone the rest is a iffy situation, so I had to hurt there feelings, and say, no thank you. They would always ask me, so what do I need to do, to sell it? I said, part it out, you will get, far more money.
The key is "knowledge"
I was just given a 2004 tj that has some rust issues but runs like a dream and has the coldest a/c I have ever felt. My jeep is completely unmodified and just in need of some repair and care.
Good video sir. I've been bitten twice by "20 footers". I've also had a 2001 Cherokee that was the best vehicle that I've ever owned. Wires hanging down in the dashboard area is also a dead giveaway. If there are some mechanical issues and you can do your own work to save the labor costs you're ok, but you can't fix rust.
You can fix rust if you know how to weld.....
As long as that Jeep has solid frame and engine, the top is not a problem.
I totally agree. The frame is where it can get sketchy.
@@michaelblock4397 Rust can also be a problem. Other than those, you can strip a Jeep of everything and put it all back together.
Your right, rust always breeds rust. If the spot being repaired, isn’t completely clean of rust, such as a floor pan repair. Rust must be removed, other rust must be neutralized, then totally sealed, or the repair will rerust very quickly. I don’t have the energy any longer, to totally strip, a Tricycle, let alone a total Jeep 😆. Your very correct! I guess I fix the worst, and hope, for the best 😂. Seeing how I don’t tare down, the entire Jeep, but I do replace many parts. When rebuilding, fenders are replaced, rockers are replaced, floor pans are replace, corners are replaced, almost every time these things are shot. I like rag tops, so if they are bad, they will go and be replaced. If someone pays for those repairs it could reach 10,000 or higher. Cost is1/4 if you do your self. What ever parts stays, I then spray rust neutralizer everywhere, it’s a dripping mess for a while. Repairs can take over a month. Jeep is prepped, primed repainted. After it is completed and paint is hardened for a while. The Jeep will be taken in for crown coating, this needs to be done yearly. I just bought a 98 TJ, that wasn’t in bad condition, but it still needed fenders, bumpers front and back, grill, Floorpans are shot, so this spring I will replace them, I still need to replace rear hinges, they are very tight, gate is hard to open. I just don’t feel it right now. It’s my personal Jeep. I have been lucky, over the years, it seems to have worked well. There is much to go wrong with a 20 to 30 year old vehicle. If someone is willing to pay or do a complete tare down. That would be the only way, to be sure, but wow would that cost the big bucks. I have only done rebuilds with friends on there Jeep’s. I have never done these things as a living. At that point everything would change.
This dude is very correct! I would hope the average person, wouldn’t dream of purchasing a vehicle, of this age. The only people who should, are those who can rebuild it themselves. A Jeep is very easy, to bring back to new condition. The parts for a TJ are super easy to get, and on the more reasonable side, to purchase. Bottom line is, If you can’t do the repairs for yourself, don’t consider a vehicle of this age. To have someone else do the repairs, will cost a fortune. Just replacing both Front Fenders. Fenders will be about $350.00 for both, now body shop markup $200.00 so ($550.00) just for the fenders. A body man will charge a additional ($500.00) to hang them. Then for painting, add another ($150.00). You most likely would have about ($1800.00) into it, but I’m just guessing, but I’m not going crazy off. Besides the body shop to make money or they won’t be there for very long. Now is my way, doing it for myself, I’m going to use pipe fenders which are more of a off road fender, they are also pre painted, they can be purchased as low as $75.00 to $125 per fender. High side is $250.00 pos $300.00, for both fenders. Stock aftermarket fenders, are cheaper, but you still need to paint them. What I’m trying to say is, there is no comparison, for having a body shop do the replacement of parts, or doing it yourself. I replaced both fenders, both bumpers, new grill, floor pans Drivers and Passenger, also Hinges for Rear Tailgate. I did all, of those things, for less then the Fenders would have cost, being rebuilt by a body shop. In the end what would be a terrible thought, for a Jeep purchase, done by the average person, ended up being a very reasonable purchase, for someone like myself, who did the repairs for myself. If your just someone looking, for the coolness of this Jeep, without understanding, what is ahead of you for repairs and the cost of doing so, walk past this thought unless you are ready, to hand out the cash. Listen to this man he is 100% correct for you. What I would do is, follow this car inspector around, and say to the seller I have cash, for you, and buy that Jeep, now that is depending on how bad, that frame is. There is a time to just walk away, unless you have a good frame, to replace that frame with.
Your comments are on the spot! I’m an original owner of a spec-ordered 97TJ…145k+ on the clock. I’ve replaced the windshield frame, the two front fenders, and had the frame professionally capped. It’s still driven regularly-bought in VA Beach, but spent its entire life in Rhode Island, MA and ME. Except for the past ten years, the TJ always had a garage, but was an all season commuter and now stays outside. Great comment--that others unfamiliar with TJs-would be well-advised to consider pre-purchase. But, if one is still ‘hot to buy’, consider a PPI (pre purchase inspection) by a savvy or trusted professional - I own an older Porsche. PPIs are expected by both owners and buyers…due to the nature of the car. Aging TJs--costs are rising….but so is the popularity of model, so asking prices are as well. Anyway, when car buying, it’s sometimes hard to have the brain control a gut feeling and override the emotional high that car people feel when buying. Again, Good comment! Best of luck to all…be careful out there.
Wow! What mega-breakdown! If you're not busy next week I'm gonna swing by and you can go with me to look at a couple of jeeps. 😎👍
I love Jeeps, had a 2003 Wrangler Sport. I bought it brand new and never was taken off road, but got the Death Wobble at 20,000 miles! After several unsuccessful repairs, it turned out the factory tires were defective. I replaced the tires and the vibration went away! Please, do a video only on the issue of Death Wobble which is the most common problem even with the new models.
If this was for sale in Arizona it would be advertised as highly desirable and indestructible 4.0 straight 6 with 230,000 miles. $14k firm.
Even though it's obviously the 2.5.. 😂
Truth, although I happily paid 9k for my 02 with 100k miles from an older couple that kept it stock. In AZ we definitely have it all jeepwise.
Also, Carfax is your friend. When i was looking for jeep i used it often before i would waste the time driving to look. I now have 2 TJs a 03 sport and a 04 Rubicon.
Love my silver 2005 TJ Unlimited fully modified with 4.5 lift, 4.88’s, and 35’s. A trailer queen with only 10k miles. One of the lowest miles I6 engines in the country.
I love my tj (2000, 4.0L) the rear bearings went to shit and were in the process of replacing. Some minor surface rust nothing that can't be cleaned up easy. She's an old girl and needs some tlc but I am sooo happy we bought it
"Looks like they cut it with, I don't know, a dull spoon..." ROTFL
That made my day.
I’d suggest paying close attention to mods and upgrades. My 98 TJ had a 3.5” Rubicon Express lift and Fox 2.0 shocks, but it also had a stock track bar and mounting bracket which had been welded back onto the axle numerous times rather than upgrading/replacing for a longer track bar and welding a HD bracket. Steering box was shot, and all the bushings needed to be replaced. Other confounding things popped up like $400 LED tail lights, Rigid LED pods up front, but stock halogen headlamps and flasher relay. Turn signals were erratic till I installed a proper LED flasher relay. Wiring for the ARB up front was about to short and the air hoses were cracked. Now I’ve got an exhaust rattle that I suspect is a bad cat. I’m hoping that the last bug I have to squish, or at least the last big one. This TJ was a rich man’s toy and came with a pedigree, been over the Rubicon, yadda yadda, but it was misrepresented and pawned off on me. It’s still a damn nice TJ and I love it, but it’s much more of a project than I had expected. Whatever I thought I had saved in the deal I got has been more than put back into it.
AHMEN.
I’ve been driving a 93 YJ as a daily driver until 2019. I gave it to my son and he drove until last month when he bought a new car. I have my YJ back now. Time to restore it as it still runs and drives great.
Great information. Thanks for the walk-around and explanations. I ordered a new Rubicon the very first day it was possible for my dealership to do so. I had followed the Rubicon concept vehicle online and in literature as closely as possible. When my 2003 Rubicon came in I was extatic. For a few days. After a short honeymoon I became disappointed in the overall fitment of body and interior components, and the final disillusionment came within a few months. The paint began to bubble at a lap weld seam between the driver's side rear quarter panel and the tailgate panel. I had taken it to be rustproofed the first week I owned it, so you can imagine how bummed I was. Daimler-Chrysler said it was not possible for it to rust there because the body had been dipped (galvanized) at the factory prior to assembly. The dealership backed me up, and my new Rubicon went to the body shop. The bubbling due to rust inside that lap joint would rear it's ugly head twice more. I took my family to Camp Jeep that summer and had the opportunity to discuss it with D-C Jeep engineers who were working on the Lara Croft Tomb Raider special edition. Alas, I can't tolerate rust on a vehicle so I traded it in on a new Rubicon that I also ordered. Lucky me. I got the first model year that came with the V6 replacing the beloved 4.0 inline six cylinder. By then the Rubicons had evolved into even higher-tech, ridiculously plush, hipster magnets. I was afraid to get it dirty. I sold it back to the dealership at a break-even level because they already had a buyer. Lately I have been toying with the idea of buying a used Wrangler of some sort since I'm now retired and do not have to drive one daily or on long trips. This video probably saved me a small fortune, and headed off a nervous breakdown. Now I'm sure. No more Jeeps for me.
at this point if your buying a TJ in the North East just assume the frame is rusted and plan on fixing it. They aren't all the bad to fix and you can DIY if you have some welding skills, kits are readily available. AGAIN, they rust from the inside and im sure its rusted even if you cant see it. If it looks ok, you can drive it for a few years but IT will need to be done at some point here in the North East. Plan accordingly.
I just got a free yellow 2002 extreme (sport) with 200k miles all stock no rust I'm over the moon
I just got my 04 TJ. The guy had it as a spare toy in his heated garage. So beautiful. Not a spec of rust.
Nice find!
I just bought a 2005 tj with 28k original miles for $10,700 ! Drives like a new one no rust or dents
fuckin stole it
Had to be a family car. No way you found that publicly. Good for you either way
Personally, I would of walked away when I saw the upside down tail light. If you don’t have enough sense to put the plate/reverse light down toward the plate, there’s no telling what else you didn’t know how to do.
I'd re-cut, scrap some of the top-talk but otherwise, killer video, man. I've owned my TJ for over 20 years and this video gave me chills!
EXCELLENT review! You opened my eyes to how bad these Jeeps can get when not maintained properly! Keep up the good work!
TJs Kick ass! I'd trade 2 Jus Kidding Jeeps for one TJ any day! 2004 Rubicon, 4spd automatic,237k miles still going strong!
Thats a clean jeep compared to what I have....18 years old and still going strong
The number one issue with TJ's is frame rust. If the frame is solid, everything else is easy.
I actually liked his comments. Nitpicking? sure. However, he identified quite a few of the issues I've already repaired on my Ohio 1999 TJ. Ignoring the "small" stuff shows ignorance about how cascading problems can and do develop. Thanks for the review!
Good video, every vehicle has problem.
Even the space shuttle.
Like your vid. I live in northern Illinois, just got a 99 tj 5spd. Waiting for spring to see what's up. I m going to do the bare minimum and make sure it's safe. Also going to lighten it up as much as I can
Mainly for Midwest snow transport. I accept the jeeps temperamental ride.it was not designed for hi speed . I like the simplicity of the tj. As long as you do yours I'll watch the vids. Thanks
I had a 92 with leaf springs... It was one tough cookie. I have a 04 Rubicon now. I do miss those leaf springs tho.
Why?
Tops are consumable. $500 & you have a new Jeep.
Tops are cheap, yes. Someone said the Jeep is junk, with a bad top, I laughed and thought, man you would give someone a great deal.
The truth is, my list of importance is in this order. The only true thing I demand to be good is, the frame and mounts. Without those being in good shape, the cost of repair would be ridiculous for cost. All of the rest is still expensive, but if the bones are good shape, I can justify the rest, the 98 I just almost have finished, I only put $1200.00 for the parts needed. Engine and all moving parts, only had I think 120,000 miles on it. Almost identical to the Jeep in my shed.
1 St- Frame
2 Nd- Engine
3 Rd- Trans
4 Th- Axles, shocks, Springs,
5 Th- hubs, Breaks, lines
6 Th- Electrical
7-Th- Body, Top
Grand cherokee ZJ came out in 93 and had coil springs front and rear. Basiclly where the TJ 4 link coil spring set up came from
Nice video. That is probably vinyl tape, packing tape would come right off. My daughter got my jeep when she was 14. She put holes in every window trying to shove stuff in the jeep. Vinyl tape saved me a lot of money till I got my jeep back and ordered a new top.
340k on my ‘99 TJ original drivetrain...no leaks and performs flawlessly. For the last 23 years I’ve laughed all the way to bank.
beleive it all but no leaks, if its a 4.o something leaks
@@taylorwelsh149
Don’t know what to say, no leaks whatsoever. I find it as unbelievable that so many say they all leak...maybe I’ll do a video and do a full review of my beloved TJ because I get this response often. Incredible machine. Over time it has leaked when a part wore out such as the oil pressure sensor
/sending unit or when my steering box wore out (power steering fluid). Simple fixes and easy to repair and always gives me early warning so I know something needs replacing. I have one video up of Pokey going thru 6” of snow but I should do more because it’s a point I think needs to be made. Perhaps an 8 hour time lapse on my white driveway will silence my doubters 😇 peace✌️th-cam.com/video/vsd9ybvtmxI/w-d-xo.html. In that short I’m going from 500’ elevation to 1,000’
@@KenSiefert right on no doubt 4 litre is a beast my 2005 rubicon unlmitd sits at 204k runs like it did at 100k
@@taylorwelsh149 I saw your screenshots...beautiful vehicles
i have got 220k on my 2000 sahara tj and most "repairs" I have needed to do in the past year is a tune up and replacing the stock alternator
Just bought a 06 with skyjack lift with 35,000 original miles. 6 speed manual with a 4.0 .. I stole the dam thing... I got it for $3000 it has new DC rims and tires the tires and rims alone cost at least $5000 and maybe 200 miles on them. This thing sat in a garage for 18 years only driven 200 miles a year. It was supposed to be a gift to the owners son but he didn't do what his dad said so he sold to me. He was original owner. Zero rust I love this thing. I had some clown at gas station offer me $12,000 other day. I could probably get 2 times that.
So you got it for 3k….. someone offers you 12k but you think you can get 24k?
But once again you paid 3k
I feel like this story is FAKE.
@@cinnreds18 he just has to sell it in europe. TJs can go for 15-25 k € there.
Pictures
On the high side the book value for that year is around 11:00 to $12,000
Awesome, my fully modified 2005 TJ Unlimited has only 10k miles on it. One of the lowest miles I6 engines in the country. Zero rust on mine. Engine and engine compartment still looks brand new. Trailer and garage queen. Trail only.
Good eye with the bondo covering up the rust towards the rear control arm. Good video.
Thanks 👍
Good video. Lots of good info. And, you've got a zuki in the background. I always try to get my '87 zuki in the background of pics of my '95 YJ.
I go to the dealership with a hammer and start smacking frames... if they don't like it I leave lol
The first thing that stood out for me was the rear taillights are wrong, one is upside down.
Excellent video! I understand there are lots of other small things people could look at while inspecting a vehicle at a lot or someone's house, but I feel like these are the big-ticket things that can really be a problem down the road. It actually stopped me from going to look at a jeep I had just found. Everything looked amazing in the pictures as far as the body and interior are concerned, but then I started seeing everything this video pointed out in the frame and underside. I'm not a welder or metal worker, so I would have sunk even more money into getting the frame fixed. Thanks!
Thanks for the extra info. Looking to get back into the Jeep world... you gave me some awesome info 👍
a mig welder some safe t cap frame pieces quadra top from quadratec good as new oh i forgot the spring lift and 35" tires would make a great father son project for someone mechanicaly inclined go off roading etc etc
I got lucky with mine. Bought my 2004 in 2014 still have it.
Thank you for much for the in-detail demonstration. It will be constructive for my near-future purchase of a TJ!
A great video… Thank you!
I’ve had my 2006 Jeep TJ since it was new and I’ve done my very best to take top-notch care of the vehicle… Having said that, it would be interesting to bring it into your shop to have you identify any problems or shortcomings of which I’m unaware… Everything is under coated, to try and keep the rust at arms length, but in Atlantic Canada, they love to use copious amounts of road salt in the winter, so it’s an uphill battle…
I have a little bit of rust on the fenders, but I have two brand new Mopar fenders on standby waiting to be painted and mounted.
I love my Jeep… It’s been extremely reliable, with only wearable items needing repair or replacement… Not including the clutch, which is original and still works great!
this happened to me with the Aztec that I thought was really cool and seemed super clean and straight with no issues and I bought it....turned out there was NO fluid in the rear diff. The brakes had been greased up to work good enough for a test drive but they all had to be replaced, the shocks were almost gone.....after the shop went through everything they found 7k worth of repairs that would need to be done within the next 5k miles - I tried to get the dealership to pony up since it was within a week of my purchase but my state does not have any lemon laws on the books and I ended up having to eat the cost and just voluntarily turn it back in....screwed me for years afterward.
lesson here is NEVER buy anything from a stealership (commonly confused and miss labeled "dealership")
they are only there to profit, it is a business, and they will never offer a good deal, they are only there to make money, remember, it is a business, and they have to make as much profit as possible
Everything you described was closer to $700 than $7000. Sounds like that shop was trying to make a pay day.
@@ericpigg2689 I'm pretty sure they definitely padded their estimates quite a bit - I did leave out that in my arguments with the dealership I did also take the car to a shop they "trusted" for the same inspection. They did come back with pretty much the same laundry list of issues with the car but did have a lower quote to fix it all - I think theirs was somewhere around $5.5k to fix everything. Ultimately though it still didn't matter - I should have had the vehicle inspected myself before purchasing because once I signed that paperwork - It was all a big problem that became my own. Like I said - I live in a state with no lemon laws for used vehicles and very few laws to hold dealerships accountable for known issues. Legally, they didn't have to disclose any of that stuff to me.
Living in the South, it is astounding to me how completely rusted out and rotten the frames of vehicles up North are due to salting the roads.
I would never even consider buying a used Jeep from anywhere salt is used of the roads in winter time. I have an '07 Tacoma with a frame rust issue covered under warranty and my frame is totally free of rust.
A thousand thank yous sir for taking the time to teach me what to look for. I had no idea. Now I feel empowered with more knowledge than before I watched. 👍
TBH I only watched this to see how many of these things my own 2005 TJ has. I bought her brand new so everything wrong with her I did. Glad to say she has none of these problems and is a very pretty princess compared to that P.O.S.
My advice to anyone buying a used Jeep is to look for one that is as close to factory as you can find. Better to mess it up yourself than to try "fix" other peoples upgrades. And remember - Just Empty Every Pocket
I love my rust free yj, way less complicated than the tj...still way capable even with the leaf springs!!! Don't be a hater😁
I wheel the shit out of my yj. It has gone everywhere the TJs JKs and LJs I wheel with have gone. Plus it’s so much less complicated. Then needing to deal with half a million arms and bars
Looking forward to, myself or another, getting yrs of use from my unmolested 82K original mi '95 YJ. They can become money pits, but still enjoy the adventures and journey! Just plain fun.
I so appreciate you taking your time and going over this slowly so that we can follow. Great job on the video. 👍👍. But I have to admit I now scared to even get one LOL. My buddy has a 1997 Wrangler TJ-SE I think that he bought a few years ago but he barely drives it, only close by to take his bike to ride. I’m thinking of buying it from him.
Nice video love my Tj.Jeep was a little behind the times in the suspension stakes, putting coil springs in. Range rover had them in 1967.😂
I've owned my tj for 24 years ...daily driver. I replaced the radiator... that's it.
Unfortunately not all Jeeps are created equal
You mean not all owners are created equal
The number one thing ive learned with owning a used TJ is you better be ready to lay some oildry down on the driveway
At the 25:00 mark as you showed the shock there was obvious significant damage to what looked like the body/frame just behind it that you never mention!
I’m glad the Used Wrangler I got was taken care of.
Most people don't have the space, skills or patience to work much on a vehicle. Car dealers have deceived the public for so long I'm surprised there isn't an industry standard letter grade for vehicle condition like a food inspection they have to abide by.
Great tour, thanks! You could do the "magnet test" to show Bondo areas.
Thanks for the video. I’m going to look at one today and needed a nice list of inspection points. Hopefully the one I look at isn’t nearly this bad. Lol
How.did it go?
the frame rusts out from the inside out. i cleaned out a bucket full of metal flacks and used a bug sprayer to rust proof with paint thinner mixed with linseed oil to form a hard layer haven't had any further rust and oh drill drain holes in the low spots of the frame which jeep failed to do i also plugged all the factory frame hole especially the ones in the rear wheel wells.
I like videos like this so I can make sure my own Jeep isn't having these issues
excellent video! I'm in the market for a TJ now and this information is very helpful.
Take a look at my comment in this comment section. I have written a list of things to check on. Hopefully it is of use to you. :)
I am not a "bigger engines are always better" person but in this case if you can hold out for a I6 IMHO it's well worth taking the time to find one.
I would mention check passenger floor board for dampness. Heater core changes are not fun! And not cheap if you pay someone
This guy is why I hate getting my Jeep fixed. I have a 97 Wrangler that knew was beat up when I bought it, but it runs great and I got it for a good price. I go in for a simple brake job and I get a dissertation on everything thats wrong with it. Just give me new brake pads.
Brake pads are simple to do yourself Bro... no special tools needed. Completely agree though... go to a garage for something and they hand you a Christmas list of what THEY want to fix and bill you for, lol.
Work on your jeep your self
TJ's are not hard to work on. Lots of DIY TH-cam videos
Sorry that's the nature of the job. We call things the way they are. But I'm in the same boat. I have a 97 jeep wrangler that has rust that flakes off of it as I'm driving. I'm considering a complete frame replace due to the nature of the frame in its current state. Right now I already did the blower motor and the shocks. I'm gonna end up doing coil springs, sway bar links, ball joints, tie rods, trailing arms, pitman arm, coil bump stops, u joints for the rear diff, probably a drain and fill on both differentials, new spark plug wires, new distributor, and a new muffler with exhaust mounts. So in honesty I'm just getting started. But it's a labour of love.
I own a 98’ 2.5L auto. It’s slow, underpowered and doesn’t suck.
Me too 🤠 1998 wrangler 2.5L automatic , no a/c with rust but there is no car out there with the personality jeeps own !!!
I'm currently unemployed and just got another 😂 1992 willy with 4.0L injected
Im more like Toyota fan but jeep started to call my attention too , parts aren't that expensive
Get a manual they are a little bit more zippy. And if you get it in manual you'll be in 5th gear at 45mph.
@@cloroxlavenderscent4307 if I got a manual I’d get the 4.0.
@@RyanABC123 I've got a 2.5 manual but I agree that it's woefully slow. I might do a 5.3 v8 swap with an NV3500 5 speed. It will probably fit. I have seen it done before.
@@cloroxlavenderscent4307 I can’t justify spending tons on my TJ. Seems like a JK or JL would be better worth the investment.
Id have been pretty devastated if I had bought that thinking it was a solid clean vehicle.. I just bought a 1994 YJ that is a huge pile of work but I made sure I was buying a jeep that had a nice and solid frame, even stuck my fingers inside the frame everywhere i could to feel around for anything more severe than minor surface rust. If you plan on building your jeep yourself or keeping it for a long time , some times it is better to buy one that has never has a coating applied to the frame so that you can see exactly in what state the frame is really in.
Ive been driving around in -15 and i have one of those summer toos as my full top vandelized so i have big gaps just to the left befind driver seat and to the right on passenger and along the whole width of the cover where it meets the back of the cab cover amd it stay toasty and actually gets too hot even with -15°F at 70 mph. Jeep heaters can put out serious heat
If your not ready to remove the body and replace the frame here in the northeast don’t bother getting a TJ anything can be repaired and fabricated it comes down to do you have the time skill and money to do it yourself or pay big 💰 to have it done for you.
Own a 1998 TJ Sport and I’ll take it to my grave with me.
You type well for a 95-year-old.
Love my 1999 TJ.
Really miss my 1999 TJ. Sold it about 10 year ago best thing i ever owned, wish i didnt sell it. Looking to buy another and will never let it go.
Same here
Sooooo... your planning a early death??????
Man... for the first ten minutes I thought this guy was being overly pedantic. However, I believe that he is most definitely the cat you want to Doba pre buy inspection.
Great video! I have a 97 TJ with 274k miles on it. Still my DD and used to mud a lot until I got tired of cleaning all the time and replacing the front brakes every year. I've replaced the 4.0 engine (finally gave up at 260k) , rebuilt the tranny, and repaired the entire frame with the Safe-T-Caps. Also did a new suspension with a 4" lift. I know about frame rot! Jeep didn't put any drain holes in the frames but allowed for access holes in the side of the frame for suspension and such...resulting in the frame being packed full of salty/mud packed frames that always rust from the inside out. I've had mine since '05 and replaced the soft top three times...they're not that expensive. The one you showed was just crap. Another tip, lift the pax side carpet to see if the floor is wet or rusted out...heater core is no joke to replace...lol.
Thanks for sharing. I have an 06 TJ and came close to trading it in for a Lincoln or Cadillac. I changed my mind.
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The ZJ had coils on all 4 corners in 1993 and that suspension setup was actually used in the TJ :)
When I got my YJ. best thing I heard was J(ust) E(mpty) E(very) P(ocket). Not going to lie, parts ain't cheap. But it is my dream vehicle.
My yj is my favorite terrible financial decision
Not cheap???
I bought my 98 TJ with 133k mi for $500.
ONE headlight on my 99 Porsche Boxster is going to cost me $600 to buy the part and replace myself.
Jeeps are cheap 😁👍
@@gellotion $500?? Lift kits cost more than that
@@kojack635 I know! So do hardtops, or a new set of tires. I got lucky. But still, jeeps aren't super expensive to maintain. You CAN empty every pocket if you want to, and blow it all on aftermarket upgrades and accessories that most people don't even need or use, or be smart with your money and leave it mostly as is.
@@gellotion how did you get one so cheap?
The Grand Cherokee ZJ was the first Jeep with 4 x coils and 4 link suspension. Jeep adapted this for the Wrangler in '96.
A 96 wrangler 😂
@@Thecollectivedrip ‘92 Grand Cherokee ZJ
‘97
The take-away is: Do not-no, make that DO NOT-contemplate buying a used Jeep from ANYONE without an experienced Jeep guy or Jeep gal standing right next to you. The customer in this case overpaid for the Jeep and THEN took it to a good shop. Should have been the other way around. I’m going to believe with no proof that our host said “Look, you’re going to need to spend a lot of money on making this thing minimally useful. Let me use it as the poster child for what my TH-cam viewers need to avoid when looking for a used Jeep. I’ll apply the revenue we get from Google on this one and other related income to the cost of making this thing adequate. It’s a great prop for a series of videos, even. I’ll be doing a service for would-be Jeep enthusiasts and you will have helped out while being made whole on at least some of the money that should have stayed in your pocket as you bought this thing.” That’s how all this should end up. One can be hopeful.
I hope people who need to see this get to