If blizzard really ban ppl for playing the game the way they made it that would be beyond cancerous, this particular "otk combo" would have a very low win rate.
Even though they are only a small indie game company, Blizzurd really puts effort in planning their cards' interactions. After all, the motto has always been "fun and interctive". Seriously though, you are the Jesus of HearthStone dude, I have no idea why you aren't the most popular streamer, your content is a hundred times funnier, more original and inspiring than any of the top names'. Plus you have a great personality. Congrats man.
as I recall then this is nothing new. there was far back another combo that could do exactly the same. waste the opponents turn. old th-cam.com/video/B8kFktbcC3U/w-d-xo.html newer th-cam.com/video/GtWVR-FYCf8/w-d-xo.html there are probably more ways this has been done.
Almost like it was that easy to prevnet everybug and every interaction in a game containing 1500+ cards And when they do preventive patch to avoid abuse (like the dreadsteed one) people still complain Plus You aggreed to not abuse bugs when you signed in to the game, so you already agreed being banned if you do so and it's too late to change your mind
Id be surprised if blizzard considered this bannable behavior. Its not like he did this with the intention of stalling his turn. Unlike other strategies weve seen in the past...
Corban Hickman I guess the "awakened" darkness is technically a different minion than the one played from hand... I wonder if that works with corpse flower as well
7:23 missed lethal! Double sap and vilespine then trade brann and healbot into one and shadowcaster plus the other shadowcaster into the last one and then hit 20 damage to face with darkness plus dagger = 21 damage
Blizzard could so easily fix this problem and all future repeats by having the timer start as soon as the player has the ability to take action rather than when the turn switches. As long as the code has any organization at all its just a simple movement of commands from one area to another, and there are already processes that start when you get control over your turn so making the timer one of them is plausible. I don't understand why they always hotfix each card instead.
thibault mallier from my understanding of the mechanics, yes, because I'm pretty sure milling cards and beneath the grounds both trigger progress as well
I would think the inside joke is that a few expansions ago blizzard released a 4 7/7 for shaman and that became a massive meme, so they made an even bigger meme out of this. I don't know any other hidden jokes
That's because you technically play a token, not a minion. The token card turns into a 20/20 when 3 candles are drawn. Dormant isn't really affected by effects.
For those interested in the deck, here is every card he drew from his deck. Zombie chow Azure drake Novice Engineer Preparation Gnomish inventor Mind control tech Shiv Sonya Shadowdancer The darkness Mistress of Mixtures Valera the Hollow Swashbuckler Backstab Doomsayer Emperor thaurison Bloodmage Thalnos Shadowcaster Sap Antique healbot Vilespine Slayer Eviserate Brann Bronzebeard Shadow Strike Tar creeper
That's poor design. They should program the game where there's a third turn and everything that happens at the end of a turn happens first and everything that happens at the start of a turn happens last. Drawing a card at the start of your turn would happen in this third turn. It's not really a third turn it would be a lazy way to solve the problem if you just program it to be a third special turn
Well this problem existed since Hearthstones closed Beta so i doubt it will ever get fixed. Blizzards solution to the Nozdormu problem was making him an exception and implementing an after turn phase, but it seems they overlooked the fact that the start of a trun can also have non-canceleble animations. Not to mention that only 1 candle trigger took over 10 seconds, who the hell thought these kinds of animations are a good idea?
Manueldl So Post Turn Phase is after End Phase? or is the Post Turn Phase the same as the End Phase? I play MTG as well and this is the first I've heard of Post Turn Phase. And I would have said a Phase between the two turns if Hearthstone had phases.
Disguised Toast got suspended for a bug that crashed the game due to a Null Reference Exception (When you copied a buffed minion, it didn't copy the contents of that buff's Owner variable). This doesn't crash the game, it just abuses the fact that your opponent's turn starts when they start drawing instead of when they finish drawing, by making that drawing process as long as possible.
Alex Holker The bug itself was irrelevant. It was the fact that he streamed it and people would copy it and try it on ladder. Blizzard doesn't want promotion of bugs.
That is bullshit! Blizzard needs to fix the damn timer, seriously. The timer should not tick just because you're waiting for a series of animations to play out that you didn't even cause. For crying out loud, the dude's turn hadn't even started yet! This is supposed to be a card game, animations shouldn't slow down the damn game. In most instances, during your own turn, you can queue other actions while you're waiting for the animations to finish. Something similar should be allowed, or the timer should just wait until the candles are done. This is ridiculous. If my turn ever got skipped because of continuous animations that were out of my control, I'd put in a complaint to Blizzard, maybe even rage quit.
Be careful with this video, Toast got punished really hard when he was showing "game breaking priest" with 2 radiants and 2 shadow visions in the deck, which skipped the opponents turn as well
TheWizardPlayers Toast's combo was way easier and cheaper to pull off, costing only 880 dust if you have none of the cards (which you should already have anyway because they're good on their own.) Dane's combo is in wild, requires 4 cards, thinking, and 5600 dust if you have none of the required cards (these cards are also not good on their own, and you'll probably have to craft them.) It's not such a dangerous combo.
Oh, he's a combo deck? better not let him play his turn then
You opponent can't play their combo if they don't get a turn!
0/10 BM. Dane could have hit him down to 1 HP, cast Tree of Life, then killed him.
They would probably concede before
Should've got him to 1, tree of life'd, got him to 1 agin and then passed so he conceded
singerbradley he did BM the turn he played the two 1/1 darkness he had lethal
Off to Blizzard Jail with you!
He can join Toast
If blizzard really ban ppl for playing the game the way they made it that would be beyond cancerous, this particular "otk combo" would have a very low win rate.
Actually this ain't so much different from quest mage
This bug is not easy to abuse though.
I'd personally call it a feature, no interaction is outside the rules of HS
Hello Darkness my old friend
LOL Why didnt I think of this
PrismFoxes
Hello old friend
"I've come to play with you, I'm Dane..."
"While the rope was slowly burning,"
"Opponents face to red was turning."
"And the minions, that were planted on the board."
"All woke up"
"And hit him in the face, with darkness"
That kind guy didn't surrender, what a nice guy
I never concede if someone pulls a combo I have never seen.
I think people see Dane and want to see what he will come up with
I also never surrender in these kinds of situation
@@qwertylello 4 years ago. Im pretty sure what you're playing right now is a totally different game with mine which i've played.
Toast will be using this on ladder in a couple of hours.
Toast doesn't play wild tho
Toast is such a boring shitbag. Dane has the real content.
honestly couldn't have said it better
off to Blizzard jail with him.
A lot of the key cards are standard and can be done through alternate means. Just a lot more difficult to pull off.
Even though they are only a small indie game company, Blizzurd really puts effort in planning their cards' interactions. After all, the motto has always been "fun and interctive".
Seriously though, you are the Jesus of HearthStone dude, I have no idea why you aren't the most popular streamer, your content is a hundred times funnier, more original and inspiring than any of the top names'. Plus you have a great personality. Congrats man.
Small indie company not recording animation times and factoring it into turns strikes yet again.
Chris M pretty sure you missed the sarcasm
So it has finally started... Dane is putting caps into his title,
10:03 after that laugh, you have to put something in caps.
took me the longest time to figure out what you were trying to do
Dane the game breaker 😫
Arman Mutlak Blizzard the game breaker.
as I recall then this is nothing new. there was far back another combo that could do exactly the same. waste the opponents turn.
old th-cam.com/video/B8kFktbcC3U/w-d-xo.html
newer th-cam.com/video/GtWVR-FYCf8/w-d-xo.html
there are probably more ways this has been done.
Darkness is the new Nozdormu Kappa
Chat was pretty hilarious when this was happening as well LuL
The Dankness
EtherealG
Hello
Your fatties are flickering, little kobolds...
DARK EXODIA
your profile pic just makes it 200% better
Exodia Necross?
Blizzard really should think about this "quest thingy" animations, this is just dumb that this animation can took a whole turn :P
Jj Bj Well it's been a thing since the very beginning of hearthstone with nozdormu
clearly no one in blizzard thinks like Dane. XD Mistake is made.
They should probably hire him as a play tester, same as Toast. Since they find more bugs than Blizz does
Luke Brown71 toast does not work for blizzard as tester and never was
What if there was a Nozdormu on the board as well Lul
Animations might go on throughout your own next turn.
and his next turn and his next next turn too
you're essentially going to lap yourself.
waste of a minion slot
Animations would have taken approximately a total of 6 turns to complete, assuming the same conditions with a nozdormu as well.
This is too beautiful. I'm sorry you'll likely have to end up in Blizzard Jail for this XD
Kibbitz haha maybe not, it is wild afterall
it's also harder to do, you'll get better result by just assembling an OTK deck and wait for the combo, this doesn't break the game at all
Almost like they should fix their game instead of punishing people
Almost like it was that easy to prevnet everybug and every interaction in a game containing 1500+ cards
And when they do preventive patch to avoid abuse (like the dreadsteed one) people still complain
Plus You aggreed to not abuse bugs when you signed in to the game, so you already agreed being banned if you do so and it's too late to change your mind
Id be surprised if blizzard considered this bannable behavior. Its not like he did this with the intention of stalling his turn. Unlike other strategies weve seen in the past...
IKR? Who needs temporus and open the waygate to take 2 turns in a row lol
Blizz STILL hasn't fixed animation times eating up turns. Small indie company. Kappa
Huh, the 1/1 versions from shadow caster also become 20/20 after they activate
Corban Hickman I guess the "awakened" darkness is technically a different minion than the one played from hand... I wonder if that works with corpse flower as well
After dromant the minion get his base stats
same reason sherazin goes back to 5/3, its stats dont exist until its "un" dormant
Once revived, it revives a full power corpse flower.
Dane , Beyond the wild.
Dane you are simply genius!!! How do you get in every video new brilliant ideas? Undeniably the best Hearthstone streamer
Dammit Dane now I have to craft The Darkness. Why you such a meme-lord x3
if you care at all about playing competitive......... the darkness is still good as a counter to the 1-of decks in standard so i guess Go for it :)
You remind me I have Darkness and Valeera.
What set is that battlecry trigger twice card in
This was the most satisfying Hearthstone video I have seen in a really long while.
And then the Fun-breaker appears after your turn and screams: "The Light has betrayed me!"
This is officially the most *extra* deck I've ever seen
why i love Dane's videos it's that they're always different from what other streamers do and they're hilarious
Dane you are hands down the best Hearthstone streamer/TH-camr. Always a pleasure to watch!
I was like "ok.. where is this going anyway.." and then - BOOM O.o
The more I watch you play, the more I love Wild.
You are a genius, you try new cards' interactions that brake the entire game! Glad to subscribe to your channel, the "wild"est player!
The Darkness combo itself is awesome, sadly, the hearthstone team can't manage to do a card game with no bug.
The most glorious thing I have ever witnessed on stream
Dane, can u put the decklist code please, it's a so interesting deck to play with it just for laughts ^^
Adding Noz'Dormu could make it more reliable as less candles need to be drawn, although it also increases the chances of it overflowing into your turn
doesn’t Dane miss lethal at 7:22? he could mc tech then sap then trade then use the combo: destroy then hit face with darkness + his weapon?
Guys
I once twisting nenthered someone's board and thought It would kill the darkness.
I tapped and got 3 candles.
7:23 missed lethal! Double sap and vilespine then trade brann and healbot into one and shadowcaster plus the other shadowcaster into the last one and then hit 20 damage to face with darkness plus dagger = 21 damage
Hey Dane, does this combo work with Daring Reporter?
Wow! Can you post the Deck Code please? I would love to troll my opponents with this deck!
What about Temporus + Zola or Temporus Shadowcaster combo? Ultimate mill combo :D
Genius, and creativity as always.
Beyond the fact that I instantly subscribed, this guy just convinced me to invest 200 euro in HS just to recraft my wild collection. Screw standard.
Off to Blizzard jail with you Dane
Someone needs to win a tournament using this.
And like that, the druid became afraid of the dark forever. Well done Dane.
Great! please more videos of this deck!
can you use shadowcasters to make a board full of Nozdormu? will make the entire screen a big sandstorm
9:00 for those who wanted to see the clip.
He's got blinded by the darkness
Blizzard could so easily fix this problem and all future repeats by having the timer start as soon as the player has the ability to take action rather than when the turn switches. As long as the code has any organization at all its just a simple movement of commands from one area to another, and there are already processes that start when you get control over your turn so making the timer one of them is plausible. I don't understand why they always hotfix each card instead.
Missed lethal 8:37 ? Shadow strike scarab, vilespine the other scarab and go smorc with whole board?
He deliberately doesn't kill him there. He says "He doesn't deserve to die yet"
can't stop laughing at the pure madness of this!
Title Promised, Video Delivered: Up Vote.
Haha Blizzard that's what you get for adding way too long animations.
I pulled a golden darkness and I want to pull this shit with my buddies is there any way I can get the deck listerino
Reminds me of Toast's DDOS priest deck, but definitely with a lot more insanity. 10/10 wonder what the he named it.
7:22 missed lethal
are you serious?
yes mindcontrol tech + double sap was lethal
Makes for a less interesting video though...
So that's how you win with The Memeness, good to know!
Darkness and Noz are like BTF (Best Time Friends)
disguised toast in wild
Most decisive win of the century
Wtf were did you buy your hacks from?
You should play scary music or something for when you have all the darkness on board. The happy music doesn’t do him justice
I like how fast he went from oh this is cool to oh shit this is abuse lol
Shadowcasters: "Darkness"..."Darkness"...
Missed Lethal at 8:36
Be careful Dane, they will send you to Blizzard jail. :D
Dane can now be at one with the toast
Heh heh :)
Can we have the deck list? Thanks in advance
Could i get a decklist? Please and thank you
Would this work with Daring Reporter, or are the candles not really drawn ?
Darkprosper they aren't drawn. They're discarded
So would it work with the warlock's quest then ?
thibault mallier from my understanding of the mechanics, yes, because I'm pretty sure milling cards and beneath the grounds both trigger progress as well
Literally Open the Waygate
Yeah and what about when The Darkness rotates ou...
Oh, right.
DDOS rogue: DDOS priest but it hurts more because you're the one drawing cards.
Awesome Deck. You love Rogue like me and I had no Video yet in which I was laughing cause of these crazy nice decks :D
*Nozdormu intensifies*
i've always wondered if theres some sort of inside joke that the darkness is cost 4 20/20 .
The inside joke is that it's a 20/20 because it's Hearthstone's version of Dark Depths
I would think the inside joke is that a few expansions ago blizzard released a 4 7/7 for shaman and that became a massive meme, so they made an even bigger meme out of this. I don't know any other hidden jokes
the flavor text tho.
I subscribed to toast for this kind of content so I will subscribe to dane
Nc video. Now you're gonna join toast in blizzard jail,you are under arrest
TimeTrek into the Darkness.
Broke the game, gonna get blizzard police no likey
Old and gold!
So, even if you play a 1/1 shadowcaster copy of Darkness, it still turns into a 20/20 ?
That's because you technically play a token, not a minion. The token card turns into a 20/20 when 3 candles are drawn. Dormant isn't really affected by effects.
you are a few of HS streamer that really has some weird insteresting working deck. kudos
Cant he skip it?
With just left klicking on the card?
I need a decklist, even better, the deck code! I HAVE to play this!
For those interested in the deck, here is every card he drew from his deck.
Zombie chow
Azure drake
Novice Engineer
Preparation
Gnomish inventor
Mind control tech
Shiv
Sonya Shadowdancer
The darkness
Mistress of Mixtures
Valera the Hollow
Swashbuckler
Backstab
Doomsayer
Emperor thaurison
Bloodmage Thalnos
Shadowcaster
Sap
Antique healbot
Vilespine Slayer
Eviserate
Brann Bronzebeard
Shadow Strike
Tar creeper
Decklist?
That's poor design. They should program the game where there's a third turn and everything that happens at the end of a turn happens first and everything that happens at the start of a turn happens last. Drawing a card at the start of your turn would happen in this third turn. It's not really a third turn it would be a lazy way to solve the problem if you just program it to be a third special turn
MrPatar15 in Magic the gathering they are called Maintenance and Post Turn phases and yes, you are right
Well this problem existed since Hearthstones closed Beta so i doubt it will ever get fixed. Blizzards solution to the Nozdormu problem was making him an exception and implementing an after turn phase, but it seems they overlooked the fact that the start of a trun can also have non-canceleble animations.
Not to mention that only 1 candle trigger took over 10 seconds, who the hell thought these kinds of animations are a good idea?
Manueldl So Post Turn Phase is after End Phase? or is the Post Turn Phase the same as the End Phase? I play MTG as well and this is the first I've heard of Post Turn Phase. And I would have said a Phase between the two turns if Hearthstone had phases.
He’s got a whole deck of candles HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
Damn this shit cracked me up. Fucking hilarious !
AWESOME DANE!
Hearthstone is not a functional game, but that's why we enjoy it
Dane, you are the best.
Watched this live yesterday and i was high
Decklist pls :)
Disguised toast got banned for this once
Disguised Toast got suspended for a bug that crashed the game due to a Null Reference Exception (When you copied a buffed minion, it didn't copy the contents of that buff's Owner variable). This doesn't crash the game, it just abuses the fact that your opponent's turn starts when they start drawing instead of when they finish drawing, by making that drawing process as long as possible.
Alex Holker The bug itself was irrelevant. It was the fact that he streamed it and people would copy it and try it on ladder. Blizzard doesn't want promotion of bugs.
Say hello to Toast for us once you guys meet in Blizzard jail
That is bullshit! Blizzard needs to fix the damn timer, seriously. The timer should not tick just because you're waiting for a series of animations to play out that you didn't even cause. For crying out loud, the dude's turn hadn't even started yet! This is supposed to be a card game, animations shouldn't slow down the damn game. In most instances, during your own turn, you can queue other actions while you're waiting for the animations to finish. Something similar should be allowed, or the timer should just wait until the candles are done. This is ridiculous. If my turn ever got skipped because of continuous animations that were out of my control, I'd put in a complaint to Blizzard, maybe even rage quit.
i love your inspire priest
Thank you for the video
he could just click to skip the animations on his side
Be careful with this video, Toast got punished really hard when he was showing "game breaking priest" with 2 radiants and 2 shadow visions in the deck, which skipped the opponents turn as well
TheWizardPlayers Toast's combo was way easier and cheaper to pull off, costing only 880 dust if you have none of the cards (which you should already have anyway because they're good on their own.)
Dane's combo is in wild, requires 4 cards, thinking, and 5600 dust if you have none of the required cards (these cards are also not good on their own, and you'll probably have to craft them.)
It's not such a dangerous combo.