He still does not know that some Ideas have to be expressed when they occur. You can‘t always wait till you have mastered your Art to express them coz till then they have not the same Urgency anymore. That he does not realize this is one Reason why he can‘t touch me. He is too measured, not that being measured is a bad Thing, but in Art to be to measured is just boring!
Rap is not an extension of rock n roll it is an extension of Black American culture and music, listen to THE MESSAGE furious 5, Paker was not Bach Miles was not Debussy, i love wynton and respect him very much, hope he will get together with brandford and do several jazz standerd albums. We need it we need that miles Coltrane that chet and stangetz kind of collaboration. David Bahar Edinburgh Scotland
@@pyschointellectual Rock’n’Roll was an African-American Invention, that is not wrong, but the Disdain for Rock‘n‘Roll is wrong. That Hip Hop has gone astray with Gangsta Rap and its to Main Words Hoes an Bitches is a sad Fact. When 18 I saw Sugarhill Gang on German TV and thoght of it as a Way of Disco leaving its Boney M Jail. I saw Melle Mel and Kurtis Blow and they had some Rhymes and Raps; very good but not as good as Linton Kwesi Johnson and Martin Luther King, whose Words had the Riddims even without the Back Up. But with G-Funk the Ratio of good Stuff turned way below that of Mainstream Radio Country Dreck. So there is still some good Hip Hop but you have to Wade a Swamp Full of Garbage to get to it. The Content of the Lyrics and the overall Sound of the Stuff reminding me of a Form of Fascism. As said there is some good Hip Hop but it is Buried under Tons of Disappointments.
@@erikheddergott5514 I don't think their is anything I disagree with, the way hip hop and rap has gone is sad to me, but yep i do still hear the odd one that catches me. To be honest rock and roll is an extension or Afro America culture and LITTLE RICHARD is testament to that he wrote some of them songs that MADE Elvis and if you listen to them back to back Richard is in a totally different dimension and all the rest seem calm in comparison.
@@pyschointellectual Little Richard is one Proof and Chuck Berry set the Pattern vor the Rock Bands: Singer-Songwriter Guitarist who leads the Band. Before him the Rock‘n‘Roll Stars sang and played either Sax or Piano. Bill Haley was managed by the Guy who managed Louis Jordan. Rock’n’Roll is basically an Alliteration to the Bantu-African Boogie Woogie which was a pre-electric Stile of Rock. And yes, there will always be a good Hip Hop Artist as there will always be some People who make good German Schlager or good Slick Countrypolitan as Ray Charles and Cristal Gayle proofed several Times. But you have to wait and search for it. Hip Hop is a Genre that frustrates more often than not.
Wynton's not wrong about Rap at least Modern Rap. It is nowadays a glorification of amateurism and doesn't demand any real musicianship. We have to remember Bebop used to be Pop Music which is wild if you think about it! Rap had a worthy heyday when it spoke to the inequities and disenfranchisement of black people in America. Now it is a tool for our own demise!
@@dkant4511 No Be Bop was not Pop. Swing used to be Pop. Hard Bop, Funk Jazz, Jazz Rock and Fusion were Pop on some Occasions. But Be Bop as important and influential it was was never Pop. Not even the „poppiest“ of all Be Boppers „Dizzy Gillespie“ was ever Pop. His Joint-Invention CuBop begat Funk an Latin Jazz and had therefore a huge influence on Pop but CuBop as much as I love it (Dizzy in my Opinion is the most underrated Jazz Musician of all Times) was a commercial Flop.
He still does not know that some Ideas have to be expressed when they occur.
You can‘t always wait till you have mastered your Art to express them coz till then they have not the same Urgency anymore.
That he does not realize this is one Reason why he can‘t touch me. He is too measured, not that being measured is a bad Thing, but in Art to be to measured is just boring!
Rap is not an extension of rock n roll it is an extension of Black American culture and music, listen to THE MESSAGE furious 5, Paker was not Bach Miles was not Debussy, i love wynton and respect him very much, hope he will get together with brandford and do several jazz standerd albums. We need it we need that miles Coltrane that chet and stangetz kind of collaboration. David Bahar Edinburgh Scotland
@@pyschointellectual Rock’n’Roll was an African-American Invention, that is not wrong, but the Disdain for Rock‘n‘Roll is wrong.
That Hip Hop has gone astray with Gangsta Rap and its to Main Words Hoes an Bitches is a sad Fact.
When 18 I saw Sugarhill Gang on German TV and thoght of it as a Way of Disco leaving its Boney M Jail.
I saw Melle Mel and Kurtis Blow and they had some Rhymes and Raps; very good but not as good as Linton Kwesi Johnson and Martin Luther King, whose Words had the Riddims even without the Back Up. But with G-Funk the Ratio of good Stuff turned way below that of Mainstream Radio Country Dreck.
So there is still some good Hip Hop but you have to Wade a Swamp Full of Garbage to get to it. The Content of the Lyrics and the overall Sound of the Stuff reminding me of a Form of Fascism.
As said there is some good Hip Hop but it is Buried under Tons of Disappointments.
@@erikheddergott5514 I don't think their is anything I disagree with, the way hip hop and rap has gone is sad to me, but yep i do still hear the odd one that catches me. To be honest rock and roll is an extension or Afro America culture and LITTLE RICHARD is testament to that he wrote some of them songs that MADE Elvis and if you listen to them back to back Richard is in a totally different dimension and all the rest seem calm in comparison.
@@pyschointellectual Little Richard is one Proof and Chuck Berry set the Pattern vor the Rock Bands:
Singer-Songwriter Guitarist who leads the Band.
Before him the Rock‘n‘Roll Stars sang and played either Sax or Piano.
Bill Haley was managed by the Guy who managed Louis Jordan.
Rock’n’Roll is basically an Alliteration to the Bantu-African Boogie Woogie which was a pre-electric Stile of Rock.
And yes, there will always be a good Hip Hop Artist as there will always be some People who make good German Schlager or good Slick Countrypolitan as Ray Charles and Cristal Gayle proofed several Times. But you have to wait and search for it.
Hip Hop is a Genre that frustrates more often than not.
Wynton's not wrong about Rap at least Modern Rap. It is nowadays a glorification of amateurism and doesn't demand any real musicianship. We have to remember Bebop used to be Pop Music which is wild if you think about it! Rap had a worthy heyday when it spoke to the inequities and disenfranchisement of black people in America. Now it is a tool for our own demise!
@@dkant4511 No Be Bop was not Pop.
Swing used to be Pop.
Hard Bop, Funk Jazz, Jazz Rock and Fusion were Pop on some Occasions.
But Be Bop as important and influential it was was never Pop.
Not even the „poppiest“ of all Be Boppers „Dizzy Gillespie“ was ever Pop.
His Joint-Invention CuBop begat Funk an Latin Jazz and had therefore a huge influence on Pop but CuBop as much as I love it (Dizzy in my Opinion is the most underrated Jazz Musician of all Times) was a commercial Flop.