@garycameron8167. I feel Frakes deserves more credit as director he does do a great job in making something that could've been tedious but instead is really brilliantly pulled off !
It was a great touch because the episode had alot of danger to become repetitive and dull but Frakes' changes to shots, angles, etc, keeps the episode feeling fast moving and fresh at the same time.
One of the best Season 5 eps, but RIP to all the brave, forgotten personnel who were working in the main shuttlebay. Poor redshirts got zero warning this time.
I think this is one of the episodes in which she looked better. They changed her look so often; it was hard to make anything stick. Troi was consistent for a few very good-looking years.
Kelsey Grammer is a friend of Johnathan Frakes (who directed this episode). He only agreed to make a cameo appearance if he got to wear the old fashioned uniform. He didn't want to wear those tight fitting next gen uniforms.
They also invited Kirstie Alley to stand next to Kelsey Grammer on the bridge as she was in Wrath of Khan and a reference to Cheers but she declined. Would have been a pretty cool cameo.
@@victorjohnson7512 I for one am glad he didn't , those old style ones have a more interesting look for me and Kelsey Grammer was also told he would be a contempoary of Capt Kirks with that uniform so that sold it for him .
*”Cause & Effect” is not only one of your favourites, Jen: It is A LOT of fans favourite! This is one of the most iconic episodes of the whole series; not just this season! It has inspired many TV & movie writers, directors and producers including Seth MacFarlane, creator of the Star Trek spoof series **_The Orville,_* the Russo Brothers, Directors of *_Avengers: Endgame_** and many, many others!*
@danillanctot6548 this is an awesome episode and not surprisingly the fav of many a fan great to know the original series was a groundbreaker and TNG continued in that tradition Frakes as director ,script by Brannon Braga and the cast bring this story to life which could not have been easy to film .
They don't play the 'Enterprise gets destroyed' card often - but when they do, they play it very, very well, and the cold open of instant destruction hooks you from the start! The use of different camera angles each loop, the music ... and that damned glass breaking no matter what just fill you with foreboding - especially as each time they loop, we the audience know what's coming! Well done Director Frakes!!
Indeed, it was a really good "What if" episode. Where despite the disaster shown, everything is reset by the end. Another good one was "Yesterday's Enterprise."
The bridge is the disc structure on the very top of the saucer. Jonathan Frakes directed this one! I was waiting for you to react to this one for a while! It is by far one of my favorites too.
Yes, "Cause and Effect" is considered a fan favorite. I remember watching with my family when it first aired. We were all glued to our seats. Then at the end my whole family yelled "Fraiser" when Kelsey Grammar appeared.
@@MrDaveJustice The respective film crews filmed this episode and Groundhog Day during the same month if I recall correctly (Feb 1993??). There was some controversy about intellectual theft betwixt the two but it seems to be a case of simultaneously development.
8:32 When Beverly makes a conscious effort not to break the glass and she breaks it anyway- it is a great foreboding moment that history is destine to repeat itself.
FYI Jen, the Bridge is the TOP CENTER of the saucer section, the bottom center is the Captains Yacht but it's never used we only know that from technical drawings of the ship, the forward most point of the saucer section is the Bar known as 10 Forward.
I friggin love the TNG crew. One person says “I feel spooky” and the command crew runs a shipwide diagnostic. They never gaslight someone! They always at least try to do at least a bit of checking it out before moving on.
Yes it is nice. Slight quibble: Beverly calls down to sickbay and asks Ogawa if Geordi is there. Geordi walks in and it creeps out Ogawa, but there’s no reason for this at all. For all Ogawa knows, Beverly ordered Geordi to sickbay and was merely verifying he went.
@ I took it as if Crusher and Ogawa work so in tandem that Bev would have either a schedule set up that she would be aware of or even if she had told Geordi to go to sick bay, it would be SOP to notify Ogawa that someone was on their way since Ogawa was in charge of the dept while Bev was off duty
Yeah -- except Ogowa also has experienced déjà vu and would already be expecting Geordi AND be freaking out because Crusher was asking about it AND That WAS Different!
I love Data's casino dealer's visor! The bridge is Deck 1, at the top of the saucer section. The viewer is not a window. In TNG deck 1 also includes the Captain's office (and the adjoining 'ready room') and the Observation Lounge where the briefings are usually held, these rooms do have windows. The 'eye' in the front of the other section of the ship is the deflector dish. In the Original Series first Pilot episode, 'The Cage' we go into the episode seeing into the bridge from above, so it has always been the location of the main bridge, but there were no other rooms on Deck 1 in TOS.
I had attended a Star Trek Convention a couple of weeks before this show aired. Richard Arnold warned everyone in the audience that we would be climbing the walls by the third act, he was spot on. Excellent episode.
The sound stage they filmed Cheers at was next door to where they filmed TNG. Several cast members made guest appearances between the Trek and Cheers franchises. When TNG first began, their budget was low, and luxuries such as food catering were cut short. The cast of TNG would go next door to the Cheers sound stage and raid their craft services area.
@@timmooney7528not sure if you're talking about Morn, but he was the most talkative character on the show. No one could ever get that guy sl to shut up
@@jagger2001 The actor never had any spoken parts on camera. That was the running joke. Mark Allen Shepherd was an artist who created several works used on DS9 in decorating crew quarters. There are scenes in the series where other characters interact with him, but before he could say something on camera, they would cut him off.
"This is Captain Morgan Bateson of the starship Bozeman; I'm listening." One of my faves too. It's so creepy; the babbling whispering voices, the eerie music, the creeping sense of dread. I love Frakes' direction; he was forbidden to reuse any shots. Presumably, Guinan was on vacation that week.
One of the most memorable episodes, with a killer opening! I'm impressed you didn't fast forward through the opening theme, even though you love it so! 😅 Brannon Braga wrote this episode (he wrote some of the best) and he said "I love time travel stories and I don't know who doesn't. We wanted to do a time travel story that had never been done before. Being trapped in a time loop is one I've never seen before." And as you very astutely noted, the used different camera angles, and other small changes in the repeated scenes to keep it interesting, and for it not to be seen as a 'clip show"
No the first proper bridge was not on a paddle wheeler but it was because it was a mid deck raised bridge to command from on larger ships that was developed. It was more common with steam however. It was not a control room but just a walkway from side to side above the main deck. The helm (Wheel) was normally not placed there either but within sight aft below or on an aft castle. The open bridge I describe today would be often called a fly bridge either in front or to the side of such a control room. Also if you look at many Navy ships of WWI to today there are several "bridges" and are better called by function. Often stacked and normally around the actual command structure that is armored. Star Trek simplifies the concept and never mentions auxiliary control or Command Information Center (or Command and Control) after TOS that is traditionally separate from both the main control or engineering.
@@MGower4465 The poop deck was the head or most forward open deck with the seats off the sides. The same wind blowing you forward also blew the smell away ahead of you. The exception was to the sides, sometimes the Captain, Admiral, or Officers berthing had an over the side restroom that was mostly enclosed.
I've seen these episodes so much I know them like the back of my hand. Watching Jen react to them as a newcomer provides a wonderful new way to enjoy them!!! Thank you!!!🤗
The blue "eye shaped thing" at the front of the ship facing forward, below the saucer, is the main deflector dish. In ST lore, moving at warp speed would be disasterous if they collided with even a piece a space dust. So the dish fires some kind of energy beam ahead of them that "clears the way" of all physical matter, or something along those lines.
This happens a lot, where Beverley notices something is wrong and the rest can't see it (or can't see it yet). The thing I love is that they almost always believe her (Even when everyone was disappearing, it took until the very end for Picard to really start doubting her). Everyone on this show just *trusts* each other and it's so huge.
Its crazy too that Picard knowing that he said 'Back us off Ensign' before as he was saying it, but also continuing to say it because that's the order that makes sense there. Can't just order something else just because of a feeling.
What was particularly clever about this is that after each ship explosion, they went to a commercial break! They used the medium to help tell the story.
Ok, first off… great episode. I’ve been waiting on this one for awhile. Second, story time… Around 10-15 years ago, my best friend and his stepbrother (neither of which were Star Trek nerds) came to my townhouse. At the time, I had a big bookshelf on the first floor, consisting of mostly Star Trek books. Anyway, the stepbrother grabbed a Star Trek trivia book off of the shelf (which I had cracked open maybe twice before). He opened the book to a random page, and said… “Ok, the name of the episode Cause and Effect.” Trying to hide my smile I asked, “alright, what’s the question?” He asked what Data said that the Enterprise was “venting…” But, before he could even get the words out, I replied “drive plasma.” The look on his face was absolutely priceless. I wish I’d taken a picture, because that was the most boss I’ve ever felt. 😂
Agree 100% with your post show analysis Jen. The mystery element is what grabbed my attention, and the gradual reveal of each character's realization made the show satisfying for me. BTW, I loved you mimicking Picard's dialogue in the last section.
3:55 this episode produces that confusion well 13:13 I like how it easy to know all the lines after all the loops One of my favorites of all time. Love a time loop story. Enjoyed your reaction to it.
For the crew of the Bozeman, according to the books afterwards, they were being chased by Klingons and they ducked into the nebula. When they came out, the Enterprise D appeared. Technically they weren't stuck in a loop they went right through time because of the temple displacement. In the books, sulu was supposed to be first officer on that ship but had to turn it down because he had issues with his daughter he had to take care of. Savik was supposed to be the on the bridge but they couldn't get a hold of Kirstie Alley or the other actors that played savik after Star Trek 2.
Actually, technically the Bozeman was stuck in a time loop, just not for 90 years as would be the obvious inference. The most accurate way to make sense of the events that transpired is that the Bozeman went 90 years into the future through a temporal rift ('ala *Yesterday's Enterprise*) and came out to collide with the Enterprise D, entangling itself with that ship. Then it was stuck in the same loop as the D for the same 17 days, ending in a collision each time.
02:56 The Bridge is located at the TOP of the saucer section; it's the little protruding bump that sits in the center; you can see it during the opening theme music when you see a top-down POV before it goes into Warp for the last time. The "eye shape" is the Deflector Dish, used to deflect random objects that might collide in the way of the ship as it flies through space. Yes, I find the design of the Enterprise... fascinating 🖖🤨
I wish she had read my explanation to every set located inside the Enterprise 🙄 then she would even see the crewmen walking inside the lounge right behind the bridge at the end of the intro 😊
Easily one of the greatest Star Trek episodes ever. I still get chills when the isolated voices indicating a disaster are played to Picard and the senior crewmembers. And it's great they Gates McFadden a Crusher-centered episode. Great reaction, as usual.
When i saw this episode as a kid, i had TONS of nightmares being trapped in the loop and trying to find a way out. Because of that, this TNG episode will always be one of my favorites due to the amount of trauma it gave me LOL.
Even though Picard likes to play Dixon Hill and Data likes to play Sherlock, Dr. Crusher is the *real* detective on the ship. Any time something weird is going on, she's the first to notice it and start investigating. I'd say more, but there are episodes you haven't seen yet.
0:03 This one really comes out of the corner swinging. The panic behind Jen's Serious Girl Spectacles was excellent.👍 8:53 Check out Lieutenant Murray earning those pips. 👏👏👏
I always look forward to watching Star Trek with Jen. It is nice to see so many new people get involved in the Star Trek universe and it is nice when people truly appreciate it. Looking forward to continuing the hourney with Jen.
Back when Star Trek was first available on home video, each individual episode VHS tape cost about $20. The only TNG ep I bought was Cause and Effect, because it was great for repeat viewing!
I remember those VHS tapes ( and the cost too ) I was in the army stationed at Ft Bliss,Tx ( which is in EL Paso ) when a friend of mine had several VHS tapes of TNG and I remember begging him to let me borrow a few. And he did,I was a HAPPY little lamb that day. LOL.
Many months ago Jen was very worked up by a cold open (I can't remember which episode), and my first thought was "Oh, I can't wait to see how she reacts to Cause and Effect." Here we are, and Jen did not disappoint.
Jonathan Frakes thought he was being tricked when he was given this script to direct, the scene on the bridge was only filmed once but with triple the number of cameras to get it from lots of different angles for each loop.
Each of the loops was shot separately, but you are correct about cameras. Normally TNG uses ”single camera production” method; different shots of the same scene require actors to play the scene multiple times with camera being moved between takes. This episode used multiple cameras to capture the same take so that they had enough material so that not a single shot gets shown twice exactly the same way during the episode.
Yes....the other ship had been stuck for over 80 years in the time loop. There is actually a book about the Captain. He was a veteran of wars against the Klingons and has a hard time dealing with the Federation and them being allies.
Jen, Starfleet ships typically have their bridges on the top of the saucer section, the big eye is the main deflector dish. Data said in the episode "The Neutral Zone" the year was 2364, This being season 5, therefore 2368, alors, the Bozeman was brought forward 90 years, Another Star Trek show said Kirk's 5 year mission ended in 2270, The Romulan ale McCoy gave Kirk in "Wrath of Khan" was vintage 2283, The Bozeman was planned to be another Constitution-class starship like the 60s Enterprise but, the budget wouldn't allow new models, sets and costumes.
Just so you know Jen, the main bridge is at the top of the saucer section in the middle. The battle bridge (which they use when the ship separates) sits just under the saucer at the top of the neck. The “eye” looking thing is the deflector dish (helps to stop impacts from dust and space debris) to protect the ship while in motion.
One of my favorites too, when Jonathan got the script. He thought they were playing with him and he did a great job of making it look awesome. And getting to watch the enterprise blow up is always awesome and scary cause that’s my ship.
I love that the boys from RedLetterMedia have parts of the model they blew up in this episode hanging on their wall in their studio. This was a fun time loop episode. Reminds me of that Dr. Who episode Meglos. Jen should always wear her science blues, she's a multifaceted science officer if ever there were one. This is another one of those times they should have listened to Worf. If they had reversed course they could have avoided the next crash.
I love how the doctor's mind is the most tuned to irregular stimuli. Diagnosis is all about plucking the irregular from the normal and recognizing "tells" in your patients even ones they aren't vocalizing. She's ALWAYS diagnosing, even when she is cognizant of it.
RIP to any yellow shirts that were working in the shuttlebay! What a rough way to go. One second you’re doing an oil change on a Type 7 shuttle and the next you’re getting blasted out into space! 😅
I LOVE this Episode and Episodes like this in general. It's always great to see the TNG Crew trying to solve a strange mystery. Each of the classic Trek Series have their Episodes where everythign about the Series comes together and to me at least, this is one of TNGs finest.
The bridge is on Deck One, at the tippy top of the saucer section. This is true for pretty much all Starfleet ships. This is why there’s a domed skylight on the ceiling, the Galaxy Class comes equipped with a sunroof! 😎
I remember seeing this episode as a kid and this episode was always one of my favorites. Based on the comments here, I never knew that so many other Trekkies love this episode as much as I do!
The eye thing is the deflector array. It deflects smaller objects like small bits of debris from hitting the ship. Even a tiny fragment of some asteroid or destroyed ship would tear right through the ship if they were moving fast enough and the shields are down. The bridge is pretty much always on the exact top of the ship at the highest point. In the case of Enterprise it's right in the centre of the saucer section.
Time loop: every Sunday TNG pops up on my laptop. Every Sunday this bright, fun, and adorable lady talks us through it. Sounds like it could be repetitive, but Jen makes it new and delightful every week! Thanks Jen, and Murray Christmas!
This is definitely on my list of favourites. Time loop stories (or Groundhog Day stories) are a lot more common now than they were then, but they do often make for a great storytelling format and this is a particularly well done one.
Main bridge is at the very top of the saucer section. On some shots, you can see the row of vertical windows of the observation deck, where they have all the meetings, on the aft side of the bridge. Love the channel.
The bridge is at the top of the saucer section in the center and lights up on most Starfleet vessels. The lighted "room" opposite the bridge under the saucer section is the Captain's Yacht on the Enterprise D. On Kirk's Enterprise, it is the Lower Navigation Dome.
2:56 Main bridge, Deck 1, top center of the saucer section. This is common for nearly all Federation starships. The original TOS pilot opened by entering the bridge in a panning shot from the outside.
This episode is so good, I watched your reaction twice. I love that the Enterprise in the future is what caused the Boseman to get caught in a time loop in the past.
Everyone who watch that episode assume the Boseman has been trapped for 80 years. Actually it may have trapped for 17 days as well but jumped ahead in time because of the distortion. Also you might recognize the similar ship from Star Trek II.
A lot less than 17 days from the Boseman's perspective, remember that it only appeared for about the last 2 minutes every time the Enterprise was destroyed, so they probably only had about 34 minutes (give or take) of Deja vu in total, it didn't start looping until it emerged from the rift
I remember seeing this when it first aired. The Enterprise blows up AND THEN THE OPENING CREDITS START ROLLING? My fan-mind was sufficiently blown. This is a cool episode. One of the better ones for sure.
One of the best eps of TNG. The Bridge is deck 1, so the bump at the very top of the saucer section in the middle. If you notice, the end of one of these loops happens at the commercial break, then we reset when we return from the break. Bev has generally been a character who is quite instinctual.
Fun trivia bit: on its 1st broadcast, viewers thought the 2nd act, was a broadcasting glitch & phoned their stations to complain that they'd replayed part of the episode, because the 2nd poker game was so similar. Imagine how stunned we all were when the truth surfaced. They played us all like a fiddle lol
The bridge is the lil dome on top of the saucer section. If you look above Picard while he is on the bridge you can see the skylight roof. Then just match it to the opening credits where you see the ship strait at the screen. Sorry Jen, but I have been watching this show for over 3 decades. I think it is so cute how she pats her head and rubs her tummy when she is getting anxious about the ship blowing up :))
Ive seen this episode many times and i just realized while watching with you Jen, on the last loop its Ro that gives the message about 20,000 kilometers instead of Worf
One of my favorites. First saw it as a recent re-run during the 1992 Summer Olympics and loved it immediately. Made an audio-tape of it by putting my tape-player next to the TV, and listened to it again and again-and still remember all the dialogue after thirty-two years.
The Bridge is on top of the primary saucer, the briefing room we see so often is behind it facing rearward, that's why the windows bend inward at the top, following the arc of the bridge dome. . The structure on the bottom is actually the Captain's Yacht. Essentially a shuttlecraft reserved for the Captain. It is not present in every class of ship. Picard's was named Calypso. The rarity of shuttle operations as a whole makes the Yacht a fixture aboard the ships that have one, rather than something used with any regularity.
The Bozeman wasn’t in the loop for 80 years. The loop was caused by the ships colliding. The Bozeman merely came forward 80 years through the distortion and was caught in the loop for the same number of days as the Enterprise. The Bozeman is mentioned (not shown) in one of the movies later, very quickly. I won’t say where, but see if you can catch the mention.
This is one of the favorite episodes for many people who have seen the whole series. I remember as it first aired, we saw the Enterprise destroyed the first time, and then the intro started: "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise...". My thought was "Based on what we just saw, shouldn't that be 'These *were* the voyages of the starship Enterprise"?" I later heard of some friends who had tried playing a "Star Trek drinking game" which had been going around the internet for this episode. The game had things like "Take two drinks whenever Picard says 'Make it so!'.", or "Take three drinks whenever Troi uses her empathic ability to discern something that is perfectly obvious". But these friends didn't get very far with the drinking game, because the last item was "If the Enterprise is destroyed, finish off the keg".
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(17:21) Yes, I liked this episode a lot, but the "even better news" is that it's not even in my Top 10?
one of my favorites also
This is one of my favorite episodes. Thank you for this reaction
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I have this strange feeling that I've watched you react to this episode before. 😊
By the time we get out of this loop, she'll have a million subscribers.
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same. it must have been someone else.
I've a feeling I've seen this episode before, again and again, in syndication
I like the way Frakes filmed each loop in slightly different ways. It is a very unsettling episode and one of the best.
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@garycameron8167. I feel Frakes deserves more credit as director he does do a great job in making something that could've been tedious but instead is really brilliantly pulled off !
IIRC, it was suggested by Rick Berman, one of the very few good ideas he had in his time on Trek.
It was a great touch because the episode had alot of danger to become repetitive and dull but Frakes' changes to shots, angles, etc, keeps the episode feeling fast moving and fresh at the same time.
One of the best Season 5 eps, but RIP to all the brave, forgotten personnel who were working in the main shuttlebay. Poor redshirts got zero warning this time.
As a kid I remember thinking Dr. Crusher was kind of pretty for an older woman. Now watching, she's a hot young woman. Damn it, I am old!
Those redheads!
@@jesseslack2089 Yup. Janeway / Kate Mulgrew is the same. I watch Voyager now and it's like, WOW! How did I not notice?
@@jesseslack2089 yep, she's stunning. 🤤
I think this is one of the episodes in which she looked better. They changed her look so often; it was hard to make anything stick. Troi was consistent for a few very good-looking years.
@@smadaf Agreed. Troi never looked better than the movie "First Contact". Peak hotness. Still good looking.
Kelsey Grammer is a friend of Johnathan Frakes (who directed this episode). He only agreed to make a cameo appearance if he got to wear the old fashioned uniform. He didn't want to wear those tight fitting next gen uniforms.
They also invited Kirstie Alley to stand next to Kelsey Grammer on the bridge as she was in Wrath of Khan and a reference to Cheers but she declined. Would have been a pretty cool cameo.
@@victorjohnson7512 I for one am glad he didn't , those old style ones have a more interesting look for me and Kelsey Grammer was also told he would be a contempoary of Capt Kirks with that uniform so that sold it for him .
@@TerryT304That would have been so cool. I’m sure Kirstie Alley thought she was above that though.
That seems like such a Frasier thing to do.
Kelsey Grammar, Kate Mulgrew, Kirsty Alley, Cheers was a holodeck program.
*”Cause & Effect” is not only one of your favourites, Jen: It is A LOT of fans favourite! This is one of the most iconic episodes of the whole series; not just this season! It has inspired many TV & movie writers, directors and producers including Seth MacFarlane, creator of the Star Trek spoof series **_The Orville,_* the Russo Brothers, Directors of *_Avengers: Endgame_** and many, many others!*
@danillanctot6548 this is an awesome episode and not surprisingly the fav of many a fan great to know the original series was a groundbreaker and TNG continued in that tradition Frakes as director ,script by Brannon Braga and the cast bring this story to life which could not have been easy to film .
Incidentally Seth MacFarlene is on the episode commentary with Brannon Braga!
It even predated Groundhog Day by a year.
Orville's really more an homage with a bit of a twist, than a spoof. At least it's become so after season 1.
It's my favorite if I had to narrow down to just 1
They don't play the 'Enterprise gets destroyed' card often - but when they do, they play it very, very well, and the cold open of instant destruction hooks you from the start!
The use of different camera angles each loop, the music ... and that damned glass breaking no matter what just fill you with foreboding - especially as each time they loop, we the audience know what's coming! Well done Director Frakes!!
Indeed, it was a really good "What if" episode. Where despite the disaster shown, everything is reset by the end.
Another good one was "Yesterday's Enterprise."
It’s really more of a Voyager trope
@@flashraziel Voyager had it's share too. I'm pretty sure DS9 did also.
Except in the movies, where they destroy Enterprises far too often.
The bridge is the disc structure on the very top of the saucer.
Jonathan Frakes directed this one!
I was waiting for you to react to this one for a while! It is by far one of my favorites too.
Also, the oval on the dorsal side of the saucer is the captain's yacht.
@@joshlittrell8946 Ventral. Dorsal is the top, eg dorsal fin.
This is definitely one of the core episodes of the show.
@@joshlittrell8946 ventral.
Stupid place for the bridge. Too vulnerable.
It should be deep in the centre.
Yes, "Cause and Effect" is considered a fan favorite. I remember watching with my family when it first aired. We were all glued to our seats. Then at the end my whole family yelled "Fraiser" when Kelsey Grammar appeared.
Star Trek "Groundhog Day".
This episode came out before groundhog day so you have it backwards
@MrDaveJustice I know.
Yeah, this was basically the first time loop. But GHD is the more recognized example.
@@MrDaveJustice The respective film crews filmed this episode and Groundhog Day during the same month if I recall correctly (Feb 1993??). There was some controversy about intellectual theft betwixt the two but it seems to be a case of simultaneously development.
@@kyoshiro13 Don't forget the film 12:01 that came out in early 1993 as well!
Watching this for the first time when it originally aired was a great experience. RIP Patti Yasutake.
I watched it during the first airing also
Jen's utter shock to the cold open is fantastic! Chef's kiss!!
8:32 When Beverly makes a conscious effort not to break the glass and she breaks it anyway- it is a great foreboding moment that history is destine to repeat itself.
That was the most unsettling part of the episode.
Caught that too.
"I needed a second to figure out we were in a timeloop." 😂 Good one Jen.
FYI Jen, the Bridge is the TOP CENTER of the saucer section, the bottom center is the Captains Yacht but it's never used we only know that from technical drawings of the ship, the forward most point of the saucer section is the Bar known as 10 Forward.
Correct. They did finally use the Captain's Yacht, but of course, from another ship. No spoilers. 😅
@@tjkhanks that's a spoiler already bro
@@DanielRichards644 not really.
I friggin love the TNG crew. One person says “I feel spooky” and the command crew runs a shipwide diagnostic. They never gaslight someone! They always at least try to do at least a bit of checking it out before moving on.
Agreed. Especially because they KNOW it could be really imporant.
Which explains why they're the elite and survive so many of the anomalies that usually lead to them investigating dead federation ships.
Yes it is nice.
Slight quibble: Beverly calls down to sickbay and asks Ogawa if Geordi is there. Geordi walks in and it creeps out Ogawa, but there’s no reason for this at all.
For all Ogawa knows, Beverly ordered Geordi to sickbay and was merely verifying he went.
@ I took it as if Crusher and Ogawa work so in tandem that Bev would have either a schedule set up that she would be aware of or even if she had told Geordi to go to sick bay, it would be SOP to notify Ogawa that someone was on their way since Ogawa was in charge of the dept while Bev was off duty
Yeah -- except Ogowa also has experienced déjà vu and would already be expecting Geordi AND be freaking out because Crusher was asking about it AND That WAS Different!
I love Data's casino dealer's visor!
The bridge is Deck 1, at the top of the saucer section. The viewer is not a window. In TNG deck 1 also includes the Captain's office (and the adjoining 'ready room') and the Observation Lounge where the briefings are usually held, these rooms do have windows. The 'eye' in the front of the other section of the ship is the deflector dish.
In the Original Series first Pilot episode, 'The Cage' we go into the episode seeing into the bridge from above, so it has always been the location of the main bridge, but there were no other rooms on Deck 1 in TOS.
This is the ideal reaction episode! It's so fun to watch the initial shock, denial, and gradually putting the pieces together. Thanks for sharing!
Low-key been waiting for this episode
me too!!!!
Us Trekkies are watching the next generation of Trekkies grow. Can’t wait for ITPM.
When this episode aired it had to be the biggest cold-open cliff hanger in TV history.
It certainly was for me. I can clearly remember thinking my local TV station had played the wrong segment of the episode. 😅
I had attended a Star Trek Convention a couple of weeks before this show aired. Richard Arnold warned everyone in the audience that we would be climbing the walls by the third act, he was spot on. Excellent episode.
The sound stage they filmed Cheers at was next door to where they filmed TNG. Several cast members made guest appearances between the Trek and Cheers franchises.
When TNG first began, their budget was low, and luxuries such as food catering were cut short. The cast of TNG would go next door to the Cheers sound stage and raid their craft services area.
They wrote Morn as a mirror for Norm from Cheers on DS9. He had the best character arc and some of the best lines in Star Trek.
@@garygarrow2718 Quark's bar was a nod to Cheers. The guy in the costume wasn't a SAG member, and that's why he didn't have any speaking parts
@@timmooney7528not sure if you're talking about Morn, but he was the most talkative character on the show. No one could ever get that guy sl to shut up
@@jagger2001 The actor never had any spoken parts on camera. That was the running joke. Mark Allen Shepherd was an artist who created several works used on DS9 in decorating crew quarters. There are scenes in the series where other characters interact with him, but before he could say something on camera, they would cut him off.
TNG has always been my favorite Trek series. Joining you on this Trek journey is great! Thanks!
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One of my favorite episodes. Captain Frasier at the end was the icing on the cake!!🎂🎂
Captain McCoy would be more appropriate, I think. 😉
"This is Captain Morgan Bateson of the starship Bozeman; I'm listening."
One of my faves too. It's so creepy; the babbling whispering voices, the eerie music, the creeping sense of dread. I love Frakes' direction; he was forbidden to reuse any shots. Presumably, Guinan was on vacation that week.
One of the most memorable episodes, with a killer opening! I'm impressed you didn't fast forward through the opening theme, even though you love it so! 😅 Brannon Braga wrote this episode (he wrote some of the best) and he said "I love time travel stories and I don't know who doesn't. We wanted to do a time travel story that had never been done before. Being trapped in a time loop is one I've never seen before."
And as you very astutely noted, the used different camera angles, and other small changes in the repeated scenes to keep it interesting, and for it not to be seen as a 'clip show"
FUN FACT: The Bridge is named that because on paddle steamers, the control room bridged the two paddle wheels.
That, and Captains got tired of sailors giggling everytime the Captain said he would be on the poop deck.
No the first proper bridge was not on a paddle wheeler but it was because it was a mid deck raised bridge to command from on larger ships that was developed. It was more common with steam however. It was not a control room but just a walkway from side to side above the main deck. The helm (Wheel) was normally not placed there either but within sight aft below or on an aft castle. The open bridge I describe today would be often called a fly bridge either in front or to the side of such a control room. Also if you look at many Navy ships of WWI to today there are several "bridges" and are better called by function. Often stacked and normally around the actual command structure that is armored. Star Trek simplifies the concept and never mentions auxiliary control or Command Information Center (or Command and Control) after TOS that is traditionally separate from both the main control or engineering.
@@MGower4465 The poop deck was the head or most forward open deck with the seats off the sides. The same wind blowing you forward also blew the smell away ahead of you. The exception was to the sides, sometimes the Captain, Admiral, or Officers berthing had an over the side restroom that was mostly enclosed.
@@MGower4465 No shit?
Using poker hunches to illustrate deja vu is kind of brilliant.
I've seen these episodes so much I know them like the back of my hand. Watching Jen react to them as a newcomer provides a wonderful new way to enjoy them!!! Thank you!!!🤗
The blue "eye shaped thing" at the front of the ship facing forward, below the saucer, is the main deflector dish. In ST lore, moving at warp speed would be disasterous if they collided with even a piece a space dust. So the dish fires some kind of energy beam ahead of them that "clears the way" of all physical matter, or something along those lines.
24th century "cow catcher".
@@JJ_WPretty much.
The dish has also been used for specialized applications as well.
@@DocMicrowave Yes, they love to frequently modify the deflector dish to emit some kind of pulse or beam.
This happens a lot, where Beverley notices something is wrong and the rest can't see it (or can't see it yet). The thing I love is that they almost always believe her (Even when everyone was disappearing, it took until the very end for Picard to really start doubting her). Everyone on this show just *trusts* each other and it's so huge.
No one does Star Trek reactions better than Jen, she’s the best 🔥🖖
Target Audience is pretty good, too. I like their detailed discussions after the episode
If only they didn't milk the heck out of it. They are good, but Jen has way less baggage @@meganega123
Bunnytails is the best, but she’s still on TOS.
Its crazy too that Picard knowing that he said 'Back us off Ensign' before as he was saying it, but also continuing to say it because that's the order that makes sense there. Can't just order something else just because of a feeling.
What was particularly clever about this is that after each ship explosion, they went to a commercial break! They used the medium to help tell the story.
Ok, first off… great episode. I’ve been waiting on this one for awhile.
Second, story time…
Around 10-15 years ago, my best friend and his stepbrother (neither of which were Star Trek nerds) came to my townhouse. At the time, I had a big bookshelf on the first floor, consisting of mostly Star Trek books.
Anyway, the stepbrother grabbed a Star Trek trivia book off of the shelf (which I had cracked open maybe twice before). He opened the book to a random page, and said… “Ok, the name of the episode Cause and Effect.”
Trying to hide my smile I asked, “alright, what’s the question?”
He asked what Data said that the Enterprise was “venting…”
But, before he could even get the words out, I replied “drive plasma.” The look on his face was absolutely priceless.
I wish I’d taken a picture, because that was the most boss I’ve ever felt. 😂
Peak ST:TNG. One of the truly great episodes. Super intriguing and entertaining.
Agree 100% with your post show analysis Jen. The mystery element is what grabbed my attention, and the gradual reveal of each character's realization made the show satisfying for me. BTW, I loved you mimicking Picard's dialogue in the last section.
One of my favorite episodes. I like when there is a mystery with the crew and the audience trying to figure it out.
3:55 this episode produces that confusion well
13:13 I like how it easy to know all the lines after all the loops
One of my favorites of all time. Love a time loop story. Enjoyed your reaction to it.
For the crew of the Bozeman, according to the books afterwards, they were being chased by Klingons and they ducked into the nebula. When they came out, the Enterprise D appeared. Technically they weren't stuck in a loop they went right through time because of the temple displacement. In the books, sulu was supposed to be first officer on that ship but had to turn it down because he had issues with his daughter he had to take care of. Savik was supposed to be the on the bridge but they couldn't get a hold of Kirstie Alley or the other actors that played savik after Star Trek 2.
Seeing Frasier (Kelsey Grammer) as captain of the old ship was cool, too.
Shame
Info bot sez: Robin Curtis played Saavik after Star Trek 2.
Actually, technically the Bozeman was stuck in a time loop, just not for 90 years as would be the obvious inference. The most accurate way to make sense of the events that transpired is that the Bozeman went 90 years into the future through a temporal rift ('ala *Yesterday's Enterprise*) and came out to collide with the Enterprise D, entangling itself with that ship. Then it was stuck in the same loop as the D for the same 17 days, ending in a collision each time.
02:56 The Bridge is located at the TOP of the saucer section; it's the little protruding bump that sits in the center; you can see it during the opening theme music when you see a top-down POV before it goes into Warp for the last time. The "eye shape" is the Deflector Dish, used to deflect random objects that might collide in the way of the ship as it flies through space. Yes, I find the design of the Enterprise... fascinating 🖖🤨
One of, if not the best, cold open for TNG. Your reaction was all of ours when this came out.
TNG was looping time before Bill Murray made it cool.
NED RYERSON?!?!?! WHAM!!!! awesome scene!
Yep....this episode came out a year before Groundhog Day
@@billyboblillybob344 Bing!
Thank you for having us over for “the party,” Jen!
“This is Captain Morgan Bateson of the USS Bozeman….I’m listening”
The bridge is on the top of the saucer section..
I wish she had read my explanation to every set located inside the Enterprise 🙄 then she would even see the crewmen walking inside the lounge right behind the bridge at the end of the intro 😊
Yeah, like every other Starfleet vessel with a saucer section. She must be a newbe.
Easily one of the greatest Star Trek episodes ever. I still get chills when the isolated voices indicating a disaster are played to Picard and the senior crewmembers. And it's great they Gates McFadden a Crusher-centered episode. Great reaction, as usual.
When i saw this episode as a kid, i had TONS of nightmares being trapped in the loop and trying to find a way out. Because of that, this TNG episode will always be one of my favorites due to the amount of trauma it gave me LOL.
Even though Picard likes to play Dixon Hill and Data likes to play Sherlock, Dr. Crusher is the *real* detective on the ship. Any time something weird is going on, she's the first to notice it and start investigating. I'd say more, but there are episodes you haven't seen yet.
This is one of my favorites! I remember being thoroughly confused when the episode seemingly started over after a commercial break!
0:03 This one really comes out of the corner swinging. The panic behind Jen's Serious Girl Spectacles was excellent.👍
8:53 Check out Lieutenant Murray earning those pips. 👏👏👏
I always look forward to watching Star Trek with Jen. It is nice to see so many new people get involved in the Star Trek universe and it is nice when people truly appreciate it. Looking forward to continuing the hourney with Jen.
Back when Star Trek was first available on home video, each individual episode VHS tape cost about $20. The only TNG ep I bought was Cause and Effect, because it was great for repeat viewing!
Pun intended?
Repeat viewing… all within the episode 😂
I remember those VHS tapes ( and the cost too ) I was in the army stationed at Ft Bliss,Tx ( which is in EL Paso ) when a friend of mine had several VHS tapes of TNG and I remember begging him to let me borrow a few. And he did,I was a HAPPY little lamb that day. LOL.
Many months ago Jen was very worked up by a cold open (I can't remember which episode), and my first thought was "Oh, I can't wait to see how she reacts to Cause and Effect." Here we are, and Jen did not disappoint.
Plot twist: that happened almost 80 years ago...
Jonathan Frakes thought he was being tricked when he was given this script to direct, the scene on the bridge was only filmed once but with triple the number of cameras to get it from lots of different angles for each loop.
Each of the loops was shot separately, but you are correct about cameras. Normally TNG uses ”single camera production” method; different shots of the same scene require actors to play the scene multiple times with camera being moved between takes. This episode used multiple cameras to capture the same take so that they had enough material so that not a single shot gets shown twice exactly the same way during the episode.
One of the greatest episodes of the series. An awesome mystery and a great character study.
The lesson today is always listen to people with 3 pips on their collar. One of my favorite episodes.
Yes....the other ship had been stuck for over 80 years in the time loop. There is actually a book about the Captain. He was a veteran of wars against the Klingons and has a hard time dealing with the Federation and them being allies.
Jen, Starfleet ships typically have their bridges on the top of the saucer section, the big eye is the main deflector dish.
Data said in the episode "The Neutral Zone" the year was 2364,
This being season 5, therefore 2368, alors, the Bozeman was brought forward 90 years,
Another Star Trek show said Kirk's 5 year mission ended in 2270,
The Romulan ale McCoy gave Kirk in "Wrath of Khan" was vintage 2283,
The Bozeman was planned to be another Constitution-class starship like the 60s Enterprise but, the budget wouldn't allow new models, sets and costumes.
Loved this the first time I saw it back in the day and was expecting Jen to react the way she did, glad no one spoiled this for her.
Just so you know Jen, the main bridge is at the top of the saucer section in the middle. The battle bridge (which they use when the ship separates) sits just under the saucer at the top of the neck. The “eye” looking thing is the deflector dish (helps to stop impacts from dust and space debris) to protect the ship while in motion.
I saw this when it first aired. I frigging laughed and clapped when the Enterprise blew up before the opening credits. What an opening!
One of my favorites too, when Jonathan got the script. He thought they were playing with him and he did a great job of making it look awesome. And getting to watch the enterprise blow up is always awesome and scary cause that’s my ship.
I love that the boys from RedLetterMedia have parts of the model they blew up in this episode hanging on their wall in their studio. This was a fun time loop episode. Reminds me of that Dr. Who episode Meglos.
Jen should always wear her science blues, she's a multifaceted science officer if ever there were one.
This is another one of those times they should have listened to Worf. If they had reversed course they could have avoided the next crash.
I watched this episode when it aired. To this day I still say "when in doubt, decompress the main shuttle bay."
I love how the doctor's mind is the most tuned to irregular stimuli. Diagnosis is all about plucking the irregular from the normal and recognizing "tells" in your patients even ones they aren't vocalizing. She's ALWAYS diagnosing, even when she is cognizant of it.
RIP to any yellow shirts that were working in the shuttlebay!
What a rough way to go. One second you’re doing an oil change on a Type 7 shuttle and the next you’re getting blasted out into space! 😅
I LOVE this Episode and Episodes like this in general.
It's always great to see the TNG Crew trying to solve a strange mystery.
Each of the classic Trek Series have their Episodes where everythign about the Series comes together and to me at least, this is one of TNGs finest.
The bridge is on Deck One, at the tippy top of the saucer section. This is true for pretty much all Starfleet ships.
This is why there’s a domed skylight on the ceiling, the Galaxy Class comes equipped with a sunroof! 😎
14:57 I’m always sad when TNG episodes end so quickly like this, after a long build-up. C’mon we wanna see this discussion between the captains!!
I remember seeing this episode as a kid and this episode was always one of my favorites. Based on the comments here, I never knew that so many other Trekkies love this episode as much as I do!
One of my favorites too, Jen. Great episode.
The eye thing is the deflector array. It deflects smaller objects like small bits of debris from hitting the ship. Even a tiny fragment of some asteroid or destroyed ship would tear right through the ship if they were moving fast enough and the shields are down. The bridge is pretty much always on the exact top of the ship at the highest point. In the case of Enterprise it's right in the centre of the saucer section.
This is one of my favorite episodes of all time. And Data's line: This is highly improbable.
Time loop: every Sunday TNG pops up on my laptop. Every Sunday this bright, fun, and adorable lady talks us through it. Sounds like it could be repetitive, but Jen makes it new and delightful every week! Thanks Jen, and Murray Christmas!
This was one of the best episodes this series has ever done. So cool how they were just stuck in a time loop the whole time
so there you go! the episode every one was waiting for you to react to! well... one of the many episodes still left to come! awesome reactions again!
This is absolutely without a doubt no questions one of my favorite Star Trek episodes
This is one of my favourite episodes, though I get the feeling I have said that before.
Window of Opportunity is what I call such episodes. :) By the way, I always had to laugh out loud when Data said: "Still no help for the Klingun!" :)
Yes! One of my favorite lines in all of Trek!
This is definitely on my list of favourites. Time loop stories (or Groundhog Day stories) are a lot more common now than they were then, but they do often make for a great storytelling format and this is a particularly well done one.
This is one of my favorite episodes in the whole series.
Main bridge is at the very top of the saucer section. On some shots, you can see the row of vertical windows of the observation deck, where they have all the meetings, on the aft side of the bridge. Love the channel.
The eye shape on the bottom is the Captain's Yacht (which is never actually used as a set). The bridge is on the top center of the saucer.
The bridge is at the top of the saucer section in the center and lights up on most Starfleet vessels. The lighted "room" opposite the bridge under the saucer section is the Captain's Yacht on the Enterprise D. On Kirk's Enterprise, it is the Lower Navigation Dome.
Greetings Admiral Murray 😊. Absolutely love ❤ this episode and your Star Trek Sunday ❤. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Live long and prosper 🖖 😊.
2:56 Main bridge, Deck 1, top center of the saucer section. This is common for nearly all Federation starships. The original TOS pilot opened by entering the bridge in a panning shot from the outside.
This episode is so good, I watched your reaction twice. I love that the Enterprise in the future is what caused the Boseman to get caught in a time loop in the past.
Everyone who watch that episode assume the Boseman has been trapped for 80 years. Actually it may have trapped for 17 days as well but jumped ahead in time because of the distortion. Also you might recognize the similar ship from Star Trek II.
A lot less than 17 days from the Boseman's perspective, remember that it only appeared for about the last 2 minutes every time the Enterprise was destroyed, so they probably only had about 34 minutes (give or take) of Deja vu in total, it didn't start looping until it emerged from the rift
Classic episode, not ashamed to be on the Cause & Effect bandwagon. Love this one. Great reaction Jen.
I remember seeing this when it first aired. The Enterprise blows up AND THEN THE OPENING CREDITS START ROLLING? My fan-mind was sufficiently blown. This is a cool episode. One of the better ones for sure.
One of the best eps of TNG. The Bridge is deck 1, so the bump at the very top of the saucer section in the middle. If you notice, the end of one of these loops happens at the commercial break, then we reset when we return from the break. Bev has generally been a character who is quite instinctual.
Fun trivia bit: on its 1st broadcast, viewers thought the 2nd act, was a broadcasting glitch & phoned their stations to complain that they'd replayed part of the episode, because the 2nd poker game was so similar. Imagine how stunned we all were when the truth surfaced. They played us all like a fiddle lol
The bridge is the lil dome on top of the saucer section. If you look above Picard while he is on the bridge you can see the skylight roof. Then just match it to the opening credits where you see the ship strait at the screen. Sorry Jen, but I have been watching this show for over 3 decades. I think it is so cute how she pats her head and rubs her tummy when she is getting anxious about the ship blowing up :))
Ive seen this episode many times and i just realized while watching with you Jen, on the last loop its Ro that gives the message about 20,000 kilometers instead of Worf
One of my favorites. First saw it as a recent re-run during the 1992 Summer Olympics and loved it immediately. Made an audio-tape of it by putting my tape-player next to the TV, and listened to it again and again-and still remember all the dialogue after thirty-two years.
The Bridge is on top of the primary saucer, the briefing room we see so often is behind it facing rearward, that's why the windows bend inward at the top, following the arc of the bridge dome. . The structure on the bottom is actually the Captain's Yacht. Essentially a shuttlecraft reserved for the Captain. It is not present in every class of ship. Picard's was named Calypso. The rarity of shuttle operations as a whole makes the Yacht a fixture aboard the ships that have one, rather than something used with any regularity.
The Bozeman wasn’t in the loop for 80 years. The loop was caused by the ships colliding. The Bozeman merely came forward 80 years through the distortion and was caught in the loop for the same number of days as the Enterprise.
The Bozeman is mentioned (not shown) in one of the movies later, very quickly. I won’t say where, but see if you can catch the mention.
an un-expected mention, to say the least
This is one of the favorite episodes for many people who have seen the whole series.
I remember as it first aired, we saw the Enterprise destroyed the first time, and then the intro started: "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise...". My thought was "Based on what we just saw, shouldn't that be 'These *were* the voyages of the starship Enterprise"?"
I later heard of some friends who had tried playing a "Star Trek drinking game" which had been going around the internet for this episode. The game had things like "Take two drinks whenever Picard says 'Make it so!'.", or "Take three drinks whenever Troi uses her empathic ability to discern something that is perfectly obvious". But these friends didn't get very far with the drinking game, because the last item was "If the Enterprise is destroyed, finish off the keg".
Captain Murray, Stardate 15.12.2024. These are the voyages of the best reaction. A fine episode and may you Live Long and Prosper 🖖🖖🎄
Jen has a cute smile