I two enjoy building stuff... keeps the mind working and they save my back.....haters are everywhere......they pick stuff apart but never do anything themselves.....the world is full of people telling you what you can’t do!!!! Don’t sweat the small stuff enjoy the ride...... I enjoyed the video and the cads.....Thank You
Very clever. ShingleVator can only send up bundles. Your lift can send up/down everything. Flashings, pipe boots, capping, tools, aircon units, chimney stacks, plywood, people, etc. Awesome time saver and body saver.
Pretty ingenious, solid well supported frame and platform. Eyebolts into each corner of the platform, connected with aircraft cable (likely 5/32”) through four independent pulley networks, commoned up to a single cable from the 12V winch bolted at the bottom of the elevator frame. Very well done and effective. I’m going to make one to move furniture and other materials to and from my 2nd floor back deck. Thanks for the idea.... Dooby
I’m incorporating this design into my floating bed my bed is floating with the same kind of cables connected to the ceiling but I want to make it to work goes up and down and I will use ideas from this video thank you so much
You must have overlooked the very first line of the video description. This was not built "just" for taking shingles up. It was an experiment to verify that it would work. The shingles were just part of the test. This elevator has now been moved into a barn where it is used to move supplies to an upper loft. A few improvements were made and more bracing was added. It works great!
@@huesenpaul1394 Hi Paul, Dan and I chose not to provide explicit instructions due to liability issues. However, here are some CAD views that will help a savvy DIY builder. www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
Thanks for sharing. Reminds me of something I built a while back - scaffolding with stairs going up 3 stories to repair (resurface) a chimney out of pressure treated lumber. Worked well, then re-salvaged the lumber to build firewood racks.
excellent idea!... i will build one for my dog to go up and down from a pretty high deck with lots of stairs... he is old and has hip problems and i'm sure this will help him a lot...
People can be so mean and stupid. Just ignore them and keep your videos coming. This is exactly what we were looking for our two-story garage/barn. I had no trouble figuring out your drawings. Thanks again!
Hi Melanie - What a REALLY THOUGHTFUL comment!! Rare, and quite pleasant! I actually do ignore the negative comments for the most part. Every now and then one will annoy me enough to have to force it out of my mind. I can usually do that pretty easily. If I were to monetized my videos, negative comments would not bother me at all since all comments, negative or positive, add to the level of income. However, I chose not to monetize so that people can view my videos without ads. I'm glad that you were able to find it useful. It's hard to believe that it's been a year and a half since I posted this video. Dan and I had intended on having MY elevator complete in a few weeks from when we started and I would post that as another video linked to this one. Life has a way of changing plans. It's been a rough year and a half. The wife of my friend, Dan, has MS. Some days are good, many are not. He does the best he can to provide care for her around his full-time job and in conjunction with his desire to have projects and hobbies. I was never pushy about getting the elevator done, a fact that he regularly thanks me for. About five months after this video posted, Dan's wife was doing pretty well, so he planned a nice summer vacation motorcycle ride from California to Alaska with his best friend. It was to be a 3-week trip. At the last minute, the friend's wife decided to go, too, but did not want to do it on the motorcycle, so she drove her car and took their dog with her. She travelled behind the two bikers so that they could set the pace. They were nearly to their first evening's destination and all was going well. Dan checked his mirror (he was riding in the middle) and saw her car start to veer left. It was a 2-lane highway with little traffic, but her car managed to find an oncoming car. It was a direct hit at about 60 miles per hour. Dan immediately turned around to see if he could provide help. He and one other driver stopped at the same time, so they went to opposite cars. Both driver's had died on impact. There were no other passengers in either car, except the dog, which also died on impact. There was nothing they could do but wait for the Police and Rescue to arrive. Dan and his friend did not have inter-bike radios, so it took his friend a while to realize something was wrong and turn around. Dan had to intercept him and recommend not going to the car. As most of us would be, he was driven to go see for himself. Ultimately, that's probably the only way he would believe it was real. The driver of the other car was an older gentleman in his 80's, unmarried. The police asked questions about the lady's state of mind. They were assured that she loved life. Therefore, the only conclusion anyone could arrive at is that she dozed off. She and the other driver both went to heaven sooner than expected, along with her dog. That cut the vacation short as Dan and his friend spent the next three weeks trying to cope with the loss while making arrangements for funeral and family. I, too, have had issues. Dan and I and our spouses are senior citizens. My wife and I are raising three grandkids, ages 6, 7 & 14 because their mother (our daughter) is a drug addict. My wife chose to give up her career to become a full-time stay-at-home "mother" for these kids. It's HARD work, but we love them dearly! We live on my income alone and manage to squeak by. Recently, I ended up in the hospital with a really severe case of pneumonia. We were OK financially since I had SDI short-term disability insurance coverage, but it scared my wife to face a possibility of losing me. Fortunately, she did not, but I understand her fear. The best I can do for that is to ensure that my family will be covered with better-than-average life-insurance. I have no idea why I just wrote all of this. I guess it's because I feel guilty that there isn't any update on my elevator yet.
This video was perfect for giving us and idea for a simple wheel chair lift. Needed a lift to raise wheelchair 26 inches from ground to porch. Doing it in metal, pouring concrete pad tomorrow. Thanks for great idea. A commercial lift the equivalent would be thousands of $$$.;
Do u have pictures or a video showing the pulleys and how they r ran? My husband is trying to build a wheelchair lift for a neighbor that's fixing to have surgery and he's trying to figure out how to do it. It only needs to go 38 inches high
Unbelievable how many people just had to say the easier and cheaper way to do it - missing the whole point. I thought it was very cool and could be implemented in a bunch of ways
I wonder if Friend has a plan to make a personal lift? It's only a little more than 3ft / 4 stairs to the door but stairs are getting very hard and ramps are even worse for walking up.
Can't believe all the negative comments. It's wonderfully amazing and innovative what happens when somebody gets a wild hair and decides that they want to build something! Way Cool! Way fun too! My only question is why so tall? Just because you were building and having fun? Nice use of the winch system as well! Good job! 😁😉😁
Thank you! Not everyone understands the mind of those who love to design and build. We do it just for the love of doing it. I think a lot of those negative comments were more tongue-in-cheek than literal. The original height is simply because Dan found 4 really nice 16-foot 4x4's that were super straight. Since he planned to eventually move the elevator into his barn, he did not know what the final height would be, so he chose not to cut them yet. At this point, he has, indeed, moved it to the barn for permanent installation with a few revisions/upgrades. It works great there as a freight elevator. We started work on my in-house elevator. Dan was concerned about safety and liability, so he started going overboard on the design. We took a break to re-think it. During that time, I had a long period of sickness and now Dan has a major medical problem at his home with his wife. We will get back on task one of these days, then I will document it for TH-cam.
Michael Preyer, he had a good idea multi-purposing it. How "dare he" think that this ahead in the design! Ha ha ha! Your friend is a good guy to keep around. And i 100% understand the ability to do things anymore. Thanks!
Thanks a lot for showing the implementation of this really good idea. Hope you all get completely healthy and back at designing and building cool useful stuff soon !
Interesting and very useful ! For a re-usable lift,perhaps make the frame out of aluminum square tubing of different sizes that fit inside of each other so it can be easily transported and set-up quickly at different job sites? Great work Sir !
That's an interesting thought. We were just testing out a theory for a fixed elevator at home, or in a barn or a garage, etc. Basically, we wanted a freight elevator that "could" be capable of lifting people as long as safety precautions were incorporated into the design. Dan, my friend who built this one moved it to his barn after finishing the roof shingle project. There, he re-built it with some improvements that we learned during the first effort. It is now used successfully for transferring hay and equipment between the lower and upper floors.
It was my friend, Dan, who did the design. He has been very concerned about liability. However, after further discussion, he decided he could share a few basic CAD drawings for people to use as they see fit. I added the link under the description, but here it is specifically for you: www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
I'd LOVE to see pics or video! You can upload your video to youtube quite easily. You can either post the video unedited, or use the TH-cam editor to make adjustments. You can also load individual pictures to TH-cam, then use the youtube editor to put those together into a slide show so that each picture lasts a predetermined amount of time, like 3-seconds each, or whatever else you choose.
Yes! You are one of the few who understands! Besides, Dan had another use for it. After moving it from the house, he made some improvements and permanently installed it in his barn as a freight elevator.
What the heck? We don't need that round thing you call the wheel. We get by just fine without it. Some cave man long long ago. Nice elevator. Ignore the naysayers.
It was my friend, Dan, who did the design. He has been very concerned about liability. However, after further discussion, he decided he could share a few basic CAD drawings for people to use as they see fit. I added the link under the description, but here it is specifically for you: www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
One BIG error is at 1:31 where is possible to see how you have blocked the iron cable. Never use these clamps for lifting but just for traction (EU security normative).
In the description below the video, click on SHOW MORE. Then scroll down to see ADDENDUM. In that paragraph is a link to some simple design drawings that should be helpful.
Ingenious. Unless I missed it in a response - can you provide the details. I have a second story to my shop. I have some big stuff up there I brought up a ramp. I want to remove the ramp and save space. This would work as a freight elevator. The wooden construction is not an issue. I can't tell about the rest of the construction though. I love the ingenuity.
Clever, but be aware most companies will deliver shingles to the top of your roof for a small fee, less than the cost of building the elevator, and you won't have to lift bundles on and off elevator.
There are pulleys in the overhead rigging. The main cable is connected to 4 smaller cables that each go over a pulley in the rigging. He did not use any block and tackle-type rigging to increase torque since the rated capacity of the winch was more than adequate.
I'm old as dirt and need to use this to get on my front porch up about four feet. I was going to build one like this and mount the wench at the top but this is much smarter so servicing the wench would not be difficult. *Would you please share your pulley arrangement at the top so I don't need to try to figure it out*?
It was my friend, Dan, who did the design. He has been very concerned about liability. However, after further discussion, he decided he could share a few basic CAD drawings for people to use as they see fit. I added the link under the description, but here it is specifically for you: www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
Would your friend be willing to give more details on how it is constructed when he finishes helping you build yours? I'm trying to find instruction on how the pulley system is built. So, I can have one built for my husband. My husband is a disabled veteran and even with funding from Veterans Affairs we can not afford to have one put in our home. Thanks, Shirley
shadd100 I will ask because I empathize with the needs of our honorable veterans. I know that Dan is quite concerned about liability. Even though he and I are long-time trusted friends, I will be signing an agreement and a liability waiver. Once it's all done, he may be willing to share parts of the design.
Judging by the slope of the ladder not sure but this might be their first project.BUT the lift is cool. Im going to put one in my living room to the second floor so i can get up and down after a hip and knee operation. Thumbs up.Ladder? not so muchLove your Dog
Michael, Just watched your video of your lift...we are trying to build a lift / elevator on the side of our house. We have a house build on rail road ties and need a lift/elevator on the side coming up to the front porch. DO you have details or plans we could talk to you about? Like on the winches and how you have it connected to the platform with how many cables and winches?? Please email us if you would like to share your plans. Thanks, Judy & Danny
My friend, Dan, was not comfortable, at first, sharing plans due to liability issues. He later agreed that I could show a very rough CAD rendering of the upper pulley structure. The main cable of the winch is connected to 4 cables that go over pulleys in the overheard rigging and drop down to each corner of the lift platform. I hope you can work with this as it's all he's willing to have me show: www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
I could see a use for this in a garage to put stuff in the attic, but way to complicated and expensive to move shingles for one job. The ladder hoists would be better and easier to move or tear down.
Wish you could have just taken 10 more seconds to show how the cables and pulleys are fastened. I saw 3 cables on 3 corners and the other cable dead ends on corner number 4. Cannot figure this out.
Hi MagicHorseman! My friend, Dan, who designed this basic elevator and who is now designing a much improved version for my garage, did not want me to share too much detail on TH-cam. That is his prerogative and I will honor it. However, I will help as much as I can without giving away specifics of his design... Go to 1:30 in the video and start playing from there. For a few seconds, you can see where the cable from the winch junctions with the 4 smaller cables going on up to the top. At the top corner, those 4 individual cables run through a series of horizontal and vertical pulleys to distribute them down the insides of the applicable corner posts. The pulley system is fairly complex and is the heart of what makes it work well. The pulleys are mounted in sturdy metal brackets that Dan made for them. The brackets are then sandwiched into a strong laminated structure at the top of the elevator that is designed to drive all of the load equally down through the 4 corner posts.
También me preguntaba lo mismo, pero ahí esta muy claro, tienen 4 cables una en cada esquina que son mas delgados que el que va al carrete del motor y estos cuatro cables se unen en el empalme. Min 1:32
1978garfield - We can get that delivery service here as well. However, Dan and I are both engineers which makes us a bit "odd". We like to design, tinker and build. In fact, if we see something that is just too darn simple to operate, we feel compelled to muck it up a bit so that it is more appropriately complex! But seriously, Dan had some other plans for this elevator down the road, so this was a test setup. He bought really straight 16-foot posts and did not want to cut them, for now. This elevator has since been modified, improved and installed permanently in Dan's 2-story barn where it is used to move heavy stuff from one level to the other. He modified the "platform" of the elevator into a simple elevator "car". That way, it has a protective ceiling in case debris is dropped while the car is on the first floor. The height of the car used up much of the extra length on the posts, so he only had to cut them down a couple of feet.
@@mailmanx69 first off your two have done an amazing job designing this and making it work so smoothly. I cant wait to build something like this of my own. My only question is what was changed or modified to make it permanent? Any pictures or drawings of the one installed in the barn?
HEY MICHAEL I BECAME PARAPLEGIC AND LIVE IN MY PARENTS TWO FAMILY FLAT BUT I AM STUCK DOWN STAIRS WITH MY PARENTS ... I AM TRYING TO MAKE A CHEAP ELEVATOR LIFT FOR MY WHEEL CHAIR DO YOU HAVE AND BLUEPRINT ... I LOOK A THE LINK YOU LEFT BUT NOTHING SHOWS ?
AD ALVAREZ you could do this exact same build with less materials by using 3x3 1/4 inch metal post the take rectangular tubing to use for your bracing cross bars to keep it from collapsing inwards on itself but the part you will need to figure out is how he ran his inner cables to the floor
This test elevator was an easy one. It took one day to build. After use, it was moved to Dan's 2-story barn and reassembled in an afternoon with a few minor improvements. The one he is designing for use in my house is a big step up in terms of reliability and safety. Right now, he's putting the finishing touch on an emergency brake system.
What would you do to make a permanent lift to get me 4 stairs up to my front door? Ramps are ugly and I would likely fall. I'm not ready for a wheelchair but getting in and out of the house is really hard
Due to liability reasons, Dan does not wish to distribute the plans. When the project at my house is complete, I will upload a new video. From that, a handy person could likely figure out how to build his own.
Yes, just one motor. It is a 12v jeep winch purchased from Harbor Freight. It has a 9,000 lb weight capacity which is WAY more than enough. It also has a motor brake that will stop the cable if the motor quits. Start at 1:51 and move forward frame-by-frame. If on a computer, you can do that using the > key. You can also go back one frame with the < key. At this point in the video, you will be able to see where the one large cable coming from the motor is spliced to the four smaller cables that go up and over the top then down to each corner. Then, go to this webpage, www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf . It will show some basic 3D views taken from the CAD drawing for the upper structure. My friend, Dan, who designed this, did not want to provide the complete set of drawings due to concerns about liability. He and I hope that the few pictures provided here will give a savvy person the answer they are looking for. Oh, I should mention that the pulleys we used are from heavy patio doors. They come in 1", 1.25" and 1.5" diameters and with or without hardware. Here are some examples: www.primeline.net/product-categories/exterior-door-hardware/rollers-1#/pagesize=9&orderby=5 The larger diameter rollers will be easier on the cable, so I recommend those. You can buy them with or without hardware. I would get them WITHOUT hardware because several of them in this elevator system are stacked 2-wide. You are better off to buy your own hardware. NOTE: You will need (12) of those pulley. Take a look at this photo to see where they all are: www.preyerplanning.com/Pulleys-for-Top-of-Elevator.jpg For the pulley axle-bolts, I recommend buying grade 5 shoulder bolts, similar to this, www.amazon.com/dp/B008AY350U/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=grade+5+1%2F4-inch+shoulder+bolt&qid=1587086896&sr=8-10 of the appropriate length for your application. Don't scrimp on quality for other hardware, either. Eye bolts, for example, should only forged, heat treated steel that look like this: images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/bd318304-fd41-4218-b4b6-caf5d6fe8d22/svn/hardware-essentials-eye-bolts-320608-0-64_1000.jpg It will be immeasurably stronger than the little bent metal ones at the home stores.
Michael Preyer Sir, you are awesome!!! Thank you so much for taking the time with all this information. It is for sure greatly appreciated! 🍻 I was wondering and glad to hear the motor has a brake. 👍🏻 As for quality, I agree 100 percent !!! In fact, I’d probably go a step more on bolts and buy grade 8 myself. (I’ve never hade grade 8..... because in my 46 years, I’ve never been let down by using grade 8 ) And nowadays there’s so much crap out there for stainless, I try to stick to 316, which is marine grade. If have no choice I’ll use 304 stainless, but I’ve never had 316 grade fail me. The older I get, the more and more make sure when I do a job one time! Again, much appreciated I all the details.
Understood, except he was testing a design. When done with lifting the shingles, he moved the elevator to his barn and reassembled it with a few improvements. Now he has a freight elevator to the loft in his barn. Even better, he has now designed a much better quality one that he and are are building into my house since I think I will be in a wheelchair in the next few years. My arthritis is taking a toll on my body.
Yes. I am currently working on an upgraded version of this design as a "freight elevator" that will be large enough and strong enough for 2-people and a wheelchair. It will be 4-feet wide and 5-feet long. All of the parts of the construction must be strong enough to be safe as if people would ever be on it. :-)
@@zaneball8294 - Hi Zane! If you are referring to this one that Zack installed for his wife, Cambry, he bought it and helped install it. th-cam.com/video/aqMZfQODJZo/w-d-xo.html Nice unit, but pricey! Hopefully he got it at a discount in exchange for advertising. The retail rate for that elevator is $25,000 plus the cost of any construction required. It's also really tiny. Zack would not be able to get on it along with Cambry in her wheelchair. Most people who find this video are looking for a DIY bargain, which is what I am working on. I am trying to keep mine under $2000 total parts and labor (the labor is mine and some friends). It will have a very healthy 1,500 lb lifting capacity and be large enough for 2 wheelchairs. It's been slow going, but I hope to have it done by the end of summer. When done, I'll do a video on it.
It would be cheaper to hire someone to carry me up to my 5th floor apartment than it would be to build an elevator! That's not why people build elevators or try out ideas.
@@jeffmoore9487 i get it. but his roof is barely 8 ft. thats what i was basing it off of. not a 5 story apartment. it would be genius if it were a 5 story apartment.
Yup. I guess you overlooked the very first line of my video description. This was not built "just" for taking shingles up. It was an experiment to verify that it would work. It has now been moved into a barn where it is used to move supplies to an upper loft. A few improvements were made and more bracing was added. It works great!
True, but that wasn't the point. We are engineers. We love to build and tinker. We also like to take simple things and complexify them! It was a fun little experiment. Besides, Dan had a long-term plan. When he disassembled the elevator after the roof was done, he improved the design and put it in his 2-story barn as a freight elevator.
Where's the fun in that? No challenge! I getcha, though. There certainly are easier ways. However, us engineering-types are a strange breed. We look for reasons to design and build things.
So many problems I noticed in this, Crosby clips are on backwards and the way that winch is mounted you are asking to hurt yourself or someone else. It's a good idea but if you don't truly know about hoisting and rigging and elevators leave the idea alone.
$400? No way! The 6x6x20 treated posts alone would cost 3/4 of that total. Unless this was built pre pandemic? Otherwise, nice build but; closer $800 would be more accurate.
We are both engineers. Engineers are a strange breed that enjoys designing and building things even when simple options already exist. In fact, if a simple option exists, we feel compelled to make it more complex! Dan, my friend and the designer, learned from this effort. He improved it and moved it to his 2-story barn for transferring stuff between floors. It continues to live on today.
I admire the effort, but you have to pick up each bundle, place it in the elevator then unload at the top. On a 1 story, I think any place would deliver those on the roof for free. If not, it's 9' off the ground, for $400 I'll come carry them up.
roofinghoist.com has links to many videos of a roofing hoist that lifts over 500 lbs and weighs only 70 pounds. Over 350 built since hurricane Katrina. You only have to attach a hoist motor and the platform to you own ladder.
Understood, except he was testing a design. When done with lifting the shingles, he moved the elevator to his barn and reassembled it with a few improvements. Now he has a freight elevator to the loft in his barn. Even better, he has now designed a much better quality one that he and are are building into my house since I think I will be in a wheelchair in the next few years. My arthritis is taking a toll on my body.
I see lots of comments asking about why are people so negative. If you are a professional engineer as I am you have taken an oath to protect the public. SO I make comments when I see a post that I BELIEVE could lead others getting hurt. If an engineer was to post a video like this they could be liable for anyone who gets hurt or killed so obviously this guy is not an engineer so he is building something without understanding engineering principles and specific safety requirements (for when principles go wrong i.e. "shake" in a beam). I teach strength of materials, statics, and dynamics to engineers and yet I would not be comfortable building this device. (I have rebuilt 6 homes and build a post and beam home). So I am not being negative I am being proactive to others who might not be so lucky by pointing out where things can go wrong. The first things engineers learn is to give and accept constructive criticism because when you make mistakes people can die. Just look at the news where professionally design hoists, cranes, and scaffolding are collapsing and people are dying. Don't take the chance! your life is not worth a few hundred bucks.
You could engineer a wet paper bag and someone somewhere would die in it. Sometimes, you just have to trust people with their own freedom to accidentally injure themselves.
@@kevinfishburne you are correct and if you want to see that sort of stuff you search for "fails". Many many people come to TH-cam for advice and ideas on how to do something. That is the power of the TH-cam community and as an avid TH-camr I was just pointing out that for those that want to experiment with lifting devices "be wery wery careful!" this stuff will kill you faster and in more ways than a wet paper bag. th-cam.com/video/zZUJLO6lMhI/w-d-xo.html
@@mfsolutions LOL. It is true. I've done a lot of projects and generally over-engineer them to varying degrees, but my tentative home elevator project idea has given me pause more than the others. There are a lot of things that can go wrong, including operator error. I'll probably just plan it to death and if it smells right in the end see if I can make it happen. Life would be torturously boring without fun projects. :)
@@kevinfishburne I am in the process of designing one as well for people (me)... I had toyed with the winch idea but will probably go with homemade hydraulics with a pressure balancing system..in the case of failure there is no movement. I design hydraulic presses so I will stick with what I am familiar and plan for failure...cause that will happen to every system eventually. That is why we call is a "fail safe".
Ya jest be sure ta git authorized, certified, & verified by the county mounties before ya install that dumbwaiter, er ya'll be breakin' the law boy! Seriously tho, aside from the DIYasm ya get from the "tinker factor", he probably coulda tiled his roof faster, & cost less to get a helper, and he wouldn't need to dismantle a temporary project facility at project end, to boot! But the $64K question really issss..... drum roll here please....why was it built 10'? above the roof line? BTW, anybody else ever tell ya yer really easily excited!
Uh oh, the Warden has struck! Don't worry, Scruffmeister, it was designed by an Aerospace Tooling Engineer. It was peer reviewed by an Aerospace Manufacturing Engineer (not me, my supervisor). It was stress analyzed by an Aerospace Stress Engineer. A lot of my friends at work are quite interested in this project. 100 of the county's best inspectifiers couldn't do any better. Besides, don't ever forget the possibilities mentioned by the infamous Steven Tyler: "Love In An Elevator!" Ha! The elevator shaft was built 10-feet above the roofline for 2-reasons: 1) He wanted it at least tall enough to stop about 4-feet above the roof so it's easy to pull bundles off the platform without bending over. 2) He purchased 16-foot 4X4's and he did not want to cut them yet. That's because this elevator will be removed then rebuilt (new and improved!) in his barn after the roof is done. He can cut the 4X4's to the final size at that time. It will be a cheap elevator for his barn and it will have been FREE for his roof shingles! So there! Neener, neener!
There's the problem! It was peer reviewed (overkilled) by enginears! Adding the cost of the hi-priced enginearing time used, not to even mention the distraction factor from the impotent NGRAC projects that suffered, and the cost more than doubled! If it was reviewed by a good Imaginary Enginear it woulda never got to the starting blocks! As fer the barn; whatsamatta with using a rope pulley to reach a loft, that can be taken down when not used like real farmers do?! It would only take up space in midair, only when needed, not alla time like a sure to rust & breakdown, seldom used dumbwaiter! Err....did all youse Enginear Extraordinairs fergit that "Space truly is the final frontier"?! Finally, can I hide & watch while ya tell the county mounties that "100 of the county's best inspectifiers couldn't do any better"?!
I two enjoy building stuff... keeps the mind working and they save my back.....haters are everywhere......they pick stuff apart but never do anything themselves.....the world is full of people telling you what you can’t do!!!! Don’t sweat the small stuff enjoy the ride......
I enjoyed the video and the cads.....Thank You
Hi Larry - Thank you VERY much for the kind words!
Very clever. ShingleVator can only send up bundles. Your lift can send up/down everything. Flashings, pipe boots, capping, tools, aircon units, chimney stacks, plywood, people, etc. Awesome time saver and body saver.
Pretty ingenious, solid well supported frame and platform. Eyebolts into each corner of the platform, connected with aircraft cable (likely 5/32”) through four independent pulley networks, commoned up to a single cable from the 12V winch bolted at the bottom of the elevator frame. Very well done and effective. I’m going to make one to move furniture and other materials to and from my 2nd floor back deck. Thanks for the idea.... Dooby
You are welcome!
I’m incorporating this design into my floating bed my bed is floating with the same kind of cables connected to the ceiling but I want to make it to work goes up and down and I will use ideas from this video thank you so much
Under $400 and in one day to build? Smart guy. I am impressed. If you were on a two story house and working all alone this would be handy.
You must have overlooked the very first line of the video description. This was not built "just" for taking shingles up. It was an experiment to verify that it would work. The shingles were just part of the test. This elevator has now been moved into a barn where it is used to move supplies to an upper loft. A few improvements were made and more bracing was added. It works great!
do you have a the instructions to that same elevator ?
@@huesenpaul1394 Hi Paul, Dan and I chose not to provide explicit instructions due to liability issues. However, here are some CAD views that will help a savvy DIY builder. www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
@@mailmanx69 building one in our shop / airplane hangar. Thanks for the extra info. 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing. Reminds me of something I built a while back - scaffolding with stairs going up 3 stories to repair (resurface) a chimney out of pressure treated lumber. Worked well, then re-salvaged the lumber to build firewood racks.
How it was built is more what we wanna see! Up close walk through.... cool stuff!
excellent idea!... i will build one for my dog to go up and down from a pretty high deck with lots of stairs... he is old and has hip problems and i'm sure this will help him a lot...
People can be so mean and stupid. Just ignore them and keep your videos coming. This is exactly what we were looking for our two-story garage/barn. I had no trouble figuring out your drawings. Thanks again!
Hi Melanie - What a REALLY THOUGHTFUL comment!! Rare, and quite pleasant! I actually do ignore the negative comments for the most part. Every now and then one will annoy me enough to have to force it out of my mind. I can usually do that pretty easily. If I were to monetized my videos, negative comments would not bother me at all since all comments, negative or positive, add to the level of income. However, I chose not to monetize so that people can view my videos without ads. I'm glad that you were able to find it useful.
It's hard to believe that it's been a year and a half since I posted this video. Dan and I had intended on having MY elevator complete in a few weeks from when we started and I would post that as another video linked to this one. Life has a way of changing plans. It's been a rough year and a half. The wife of my friend, Dan, has MS. Some days are good, many are not. He does the best he can to provide care for her around his full-time job and in conjunction with his desire to have projects and hobbies. I was never pushy about getting the elevator done, a fact that he regularly thanks me for.
About five months after this video posted, Dan's wife was doing pretty well, so he planned a nice summer vacation motorcycle ride from California to Alaska with his best friend. It was to be a 3-week trip. At the last minute, the friend's wife decided to go, too, but did not want to do it on the motorcycle, so she drove her car and took their dog with her. She travelled behind the two bikers so that they could set the pace. They were nearly to their first evening's destination and all was going well. Dan checked his mirror (he was riding in the middle) and saw her car start to veer left. It was a 2-lane highway with little traffic, but her car managed to find an oncoming car. It was a direct hit at about 60 miles per hour. Dan immediately turned around to see if he could provide help. He and one other driver stopped at the same time, so they went to opposite cars. Both driver's had died on impact. There were no other passengers in either car, except the dog, which also died on impact. There was nothing they could do but wait for the Police and Rescue to arrive.
Dan and his friend did not have inter-bike radios, so it took his friend a while to realize something was wrong and turn around. Dan had to intercept him and recommend not going to the car. As most of us would be, he was driven to go see for himself. Ultimately, that's probably the only way he would believe it was real. The driver of the other car was an older gentleman in his 80's, unmarried. The police asked questions about the lady's state of mind. They were assured that she loved life. Therefore, the only conclusion anyone could arrive at is that she dozed off. She and the other driver both went to heaven sooner than expected, along with her dog. That cut the vacation short as Dan and his friend spent the next three weeks trying to cope with the loss while making arrangements for funeral and family.
I, too, have had issues. Dan and I and our spouses are senior citizens. My wife and I are raising three grandkids, ages 6, 7 & 14 because their mother (our daughter) is a drug addict. My wife chose to give up her career to become a full-time stay-at-home "mother" for these kids. It's HARD work, but we love them dearly! We live on my income alone and manage to squeak by. Recently, I ended up in the hospital with a really severe case of pneumonia. We were OK financially since I had SDI short-term disability insurance coverage, but it scared my wife to face a possibility of losing me. Fortunately, she did not, but I understand her fear. The best I can do for that is to ensure that my family will be covered with better-than-average life-insurance.
I have no idea why I just wrote all of this. I guess it's because I feel guilty that there isn't any update on my elevator yet.
@@mailmanx69 God bless you all for everything you do for others! And this vid is darling, inspiring!
Great work! Yes, very simple and effective design and anyone with basic framing skills could build that, no problem. Appreciate you sharing the video-
Really nice work and after looking at the additional drawings/photos, it's a good,efficient design. Many thanks !
Thank you! It's nice to get a positive comment sprinkled in with all the troll comments!
This video was perfect for giving us and idea for a simple wheel chair lift. Needed a lift to raise wheelchair 26 inches from ground to porch. Doing it in metal, pouring concrete pad tomorrow. Thanks for great idea. A commercial lift the equivalent would be thousands of $$$.;
Do u have pictures or a video showing the pulleys and how they r ran? My husband is trying to build a wheelchair lift for a neighbor that's fixing to have surgery and he's trying to figure out how to do it. It only needs to go 38 inches high
Unbelievable how many people just had to say the easier and cheaper way to do it - missing the whole point. I thought it was very cool and could be implemented in a bunch of ways
Great idea, I am working on a plan for a wheel chair lift for my wife, I will incorporate some of this.
I wonder if Friend has a plan to make a personal lift? It's only a little more than 3ft / 4 stairs to the door but stairs are getting very hard and ramps are even worse for walking up.
Can't believe all the negative comments. It's wonderfully amazing and innovative what happens when somebody gets a wild hair and decides that they want to build something! Way Cool! Way fun too! My only question is why so tall? Just because you were building and having fun? Nice use of the winch system as well!
Good job! 😁😉😁
Thank you! Not everyone understands the mind of those who love to design and build. We do it just for the love of doing it. I think a lot of those negative comments were more tongue-in-cheek than literal. The original height is simply because Dan found 4 really nice 16-foot 4x4's that were super straight. Since he planned to eventually move the elevator into his barn, he did not know what the final height would be, so he chose not to cut them yet. At this point, he has, indeed, moved it to the barn for permanent installation with a few revisions/upgrades. It works great there as a freight elevator. We started work on my in-house elevator. Dan was concerned about safety and liability, so he started going overboard on the design. We took a break to re-think it. During that time, I had a long period of sickness and now Dan has a major medical problem at his home with his wife. We will get back on task one of these days, then I will document it for TH-cam.
Michael Preyer, he had a good idea multi-purposing it. How "dare he" think that this ahead in the design! Ha ha ha! Your friend is a good guy to keep around. And i 100% understand the ability to do things anymore. Thanks!
Thanks a lot for showing the implementation of this really good idea. Hope you all get completely healthy and back at designing and building cool useful stuff soon !
Love this. Can You show how the top 4 cables come together and how you ran the top 4 pullies and cables to bring them down.
My thoughts exactly
Interesting and very useful ! For a re-usable lift,perhaps make the frame out of aluminum square tubing of different sizes that fit inside of each other so it can be easily transported and set-up quickly at different job sites? Great work Sir !
That's an interesting thought. We were just testing out a theory for a fixed elevator at home, or in a barn or a garage, etc. Basically, we wanted a freight elevator that "could" be capable of lifting people as long as safety precautions were incorporated into the design. Dan, my friend who built this one moved it to his barn after finishing the roof shingle project. There, he re-built it with some improvements that we learned during the first effort. It is now used successfully for transferring hay and equipment between the lower and upper floors.
BRILLIANT IDEA!! Thanks
Excellent work on hiding the pulley system above! I couldnt tell how it is made!
It was my friend, Dan, who did the design. He has been very concerned about liability. However, after further discussion, he decided he could share a few basic CAD drawings for people to use as they see fit. I added the link under the description, but here it is specifically for you: www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
I love this ,where.can I find plans for something like this ?
Very nice.
How does the cable setup work? 1 cable pulling all four corners.
Thanks
Nobody knows and he isn't going to tell us
What a neat idea👍👍👍👍👍
Our lift based on this idea turned out great. If I can figure out how to add pictures or a video, I will.
I'd LOVE to see pics or video! You can upload your video to youtube quite easily. You can either post the video unedited, or use the TH-cam editor to make adjustments. You can also load individual pictures to TH-cam, then use the youtube editor to put those together into a slide show so that each picture lasts a predetermined amount of time, like 3-seconds each, or whatever else you choose.
cool rig
this is on another level
It is when it gets to the roof!
So the main cable essentially splits into two cables midway...interesting and thanks for sharing!
Dude that’s so cool. You just inspired me. Thank you!!!!
That's awesome! I'm glad that we could spark a bit of creativity.
Amazing, great job 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
great job love to see unique methods of doing things.
Worthy of applause.
Spend the left over money on beer and dart tournament or something. I like building stuff too so I know why you really did it.
Yes! You are one of the few who understands! Besides, Dan had another use for it. After moving it from the house, he made some improvements and permanently installed it in his barn as a freight elevator.
What the heck? We don't need that round thing you call the wheel. We get by just fine without it. Some cave man long long ago. Nice elevator. Ignore the naysayers.
Can't remember how many bundles I carried up a ladder, but it was a lot more
than I wanted to. LOL
Nice design and understand the build versus rent angle. Happy to help you to 1000.
This could be used for a tree house. Great idea.
Some detail of the cable routing please.....
Adam Mackey Smith Yes, exactly.
It was my friend, Dan, who did the design. He has been very concerned about liability. However, after further discussion, he decided he could share a few basic CAD drawings for people to use as they see fit. I added the link under the description, but here it is specifically for you: www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
YOU ARE BRILLIANT!!!!
My friend, Dan, is came up with the idea and the test model, so I'll give him the credit that is due.
One BIG error is at 1:31 where is possible to see how you have blocked the iron cable. Never use these clamps for lifting but just for traction (EU security normative).
That will be corrected in the elevator that goes into my garage.
I want to do something very similar in my garage. How is the top engineered where 4 cables meet the pulling cable? Thanks.
In the description below the video, click on SHOW MORE. Then scroll down to see ADDENDUM. In that paragraph is a link to some simple design drawings that should be helpful.
I am kind of surptised those unwelded eye bolts too the the weight
Ingenious. Unless I missed it in a response - can you provide the details. I have a second story to my shop. I have some big stuff up there I brought up a ramp. I want to remove the ramp and save space. This would work as a freight elevator. The wooden construction is not an issue. I can't tell about the rest of the construction though. I love the ingenuity.
Found the addendum. Still a few questions but I assume you will not respond. Thanks - I plan on doing this or a variant within the next 12 months.
It is very cool. Please, get in touch with me as I need one built.
Great job!
Cool, I needed 56 bundles delivered, I asked is it possible to place on roof. $100.00 extra worth every penny.
Clever, but be aware most companies will deliver shingles to the top of
your roof for a small fee, less than the cost of building the elevator, and you won't have to lift bundles on and off elevator.
Nicely done, but you could have hired a labor worker for that amount of money which helps him out...
You could incorporate pulleys to reduce the load on the winch
There are pulleys in the overhead rigging. The main cable is connected to 4 smaller cables that each go over a pulley in the rigging. He did not use any block and tackle-type rigging to increase torque since the rated capacity of the winch was more than adequate.
I'm old as dirt and need to use this to get on my front porch up about four feet. I was going to build one like this and mount the wench at the top but this is much smarter so servicing the wench would not be difficult.
*Would you please share your pulley arrangement at the top so I don't need to try to figure it out*?
It was my friend, Dan, who did the design. He has been very concerned about liability. However, after further discussion, he decided he could share a few basic CAD drawings for people to use as they see fit. I added the link under the description, but here it is specifically for you: www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
Thank you for that, it is more complicated than I thought, though It's clear and easy to understand...
Camera was moving too much in the beginning, take important shots, BTW I love the porno music
Would your friend be willing to give more details on how it is constructed when he finishes helping you build yours? I'm trying to find instruction on how the pulley system is built. So, I can have one built for my husband. My husband is a disabled veteran and even with funding from Veterans Affairs we can not afford to have one put in our home.
Thanks, Shirley
shadd100 I will ask because I empathize with the needs of our honorable veterans. I know that Dan is quite concerned about liability. Even though he and I are long-time trusted friends, I will be signing an agreement and a liability waiver. Once it's all done, he may be willing to share parts of the design.
I guess that safety is not a factor
Judging by the slope of the ladder not sure but this might be their first project.BUT the lift is cool. Im going to put one in my living room to the second floor so i can get up and down after a hip and knee operation. Thumbs up.Ladder? not so muchLove your Dog
Michael, Just watched your video of your lift...we are trying to build a lift / elevator on the side of our house. We have a house build on rail road ties and need a lift/elevator on the side coming up to the front porch. DO you have details or plans we could talk to you about? Like on the winches and how you have it connected to the platform with how many cables and winches?? Please email us if you would like to share your plans. Thanks, Judy & Danny
My friend, Dan, was not comfortable, at first, sharing plans due to liability issues. He later agreed that I could show a very rough CAD rendering of the upper pulley structure. The main cable of the winch is connected to 4 cables that go over pulleys in the overheard rigging and drop down to each corner of the lift platform. I hope you can work with this as it's all he's willing to have me show: www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf
How can I buy a copy of theplans please?
That would be great for bricklayers doing a brick front or fireplace.
I could see a use for this in a garage to put stuff in the attic, but way to complicated and expensive to move shingles for one job. The ladder hoists would be better and easier to move or tear down.
You know they boom trucks for roof top delivery?? 400? More than the truck to deliver ... but I get it.. nice job
Very cool I'd like something like this to go from a closet to my basement for me to go up and down I don't do stars too well these days.
A little more bracing guys
This elevator was moved to a barn where it is now used to move supplies to the upper loft. It has been secured with more bracing.
Wish you could have just taken 10 more seconds to show how the cables and pulleys are fastened. I saw 3 cables on 3 corners and the other cable dead ends on corner number 4. Cannot figure this out.
Hi MagicHorseman! My friend, Dan, who designed this basic elevator and who is now designing a much improved
version for my garage, did not want me to share too much detail on TH-cam. That is his prerogative and I will honor it. However, I will help as much as I can without giving away specifics of his design...
Go to 1:30 in the video and start playing from there. For a few seconds, you can see where the cable from the winch junctions with the 4 smaller cables going on up to the top. At the top corner, those 4 individual cables run through a series of horizontal and vertical pulleys to distribute them down the insides of the applicable corner posts. The pulley system is fairly complex and is the heart of what makes it work well. The pulleys are mounted in sturdy metal brackets that Dan made for them. The brackets are then sandwiched into a strong laminated structure at the top of the elevator that is designed to drive all of the load equally down through the 4 corner posts.
También me preguntaba lo mismo, pero ahí esta muy claro, tienen 4 cables una en cada esquina que son mas delgados que el que va al carrete del motor y estos cuatro cables se unen en el empalme. Min 1:32
A ramp to the top of the roof is much easier and uses less wood have a look at my video.
It is a very impressive mechanism. Where I live Lowes and Menards will do rooftop deliver for less than $100.
Why did he build it so high?
1978garfield - We can get that delivery service here as well. However, Dan and I are both engineers which makes us a bit "odd". We like to design, tinker and build. In fact, if we see something that is just too darn simple to operate, we feel compelled to muck it up a bit so that it is more appropriately complex! But seriously, Dan had some other plans for this elevator down the road, so this was a test setup. He bought really straight 16-foot posts and did not want to cut them, for now. This elevator has since been modified, improved and installed permanently in Dan's 2-story barn where it is used to move heavy stuff from one level to the other. He modified the "platform" of the elevator into a simple elevator "car". That way, it has a protective ceiling in case debris is dropped while the car is on the first floor. The height of the car used up much of the extra length on the posts, so he only had to cut them down a couple of feet.
@@mailmanx69 first off your two have done an amazing job designing this and making it work so smoothly. I cant wait to build something like this of my own. My only question is what was changed or modified to make it permanent? Any pictures or drawings of the one installed in the barn?
HEY MICHAEL I BECAME PARAPLEGIC AND LIVE IN MY PARENTS TWO FAMILY FLAT BUT I AM STUCK DOWN STAIRS WITH MY PARENTS ... I AM TRYING TO MAKE A CHEAP ELEVATOR LIFT FOR MY WHEEL CHAIR DO YOU HAVE AND BLUEPRINT ... I LOOK A THE LINK YOU LEFT BUT NOTHING SHOWS ?
AD ALVAREZ you could do this exact same build with less materials by using 3x3 1/4 inch metal post the take rectangular tubing to use for your bracing cross bars to keep it from collapsing inwards on itself but the part you will need to figure out is how he ran his inner cables to the floor
Could have rented a ladder shingle hoist for about 70 bucks a day.
lol very impressed but its a ranch u can walk all them up in a few hrs with maybe 2 maybe 3 tops lol
True! But an engineer is happy for any excuse to make something more complicated!
Some thing wrong with the camera only sees the middle??
Very good! How long did this take to build?
This test elevator was an easy one. It took one day to build. After use, it was moved to Dan's 2-story barn and reassembled in an afternoon with a few minor improvements. The one he is designing for use in my house is a big step up in terms of reliability and safety. Right now, he's putting the finishing touch on an emergency brake system.
Tell that to the wright brothers........and the Egyptians
No fail safe to prevent falling of the lift platform. And it isn't hard to add.
What would you do to make a permanent lift to get me 4 stairs up to my front door? Ramps are ugly and I would likely fall. I'm not ready for a wheelchair but getting in and out of the house is really hard
How can I get the plans please?
Due to liability reasons, Dan does not wish to distribute the plans. When the project at my house is complete, I will upload a new video. From that, a handy person could likely figure out how to build his own.
Could you please let me know the input power(battery details) to the motor?
The motor is an automotive winch, so works great on any 12v automotive battery.
Could you show how you ran the cables? This is one motor yes?
Yes, just one motor. It is a 12v jeep winch purchased from Harbor Freight. It has a 9,000 lb weight capacity which is WAY more than enough. It also has a motor brake that will stop the cable if the motor quits.
Start at 1:51 and move forward frame-by-frame. If on a computer, you can do that using the > key. You can also go back one frame with the < key. At this point in the video, you will be able to see where the one large cable coming from the motor is spliced to the four smaller cables that go up and over the top then down to each corner.
Then, go to this webpage, www.preyerplanning.com/elevator-ideas-01.pdf . It will show some basic 3D views taken from the CAD drawing for the upper structure. My friend, Dan, who designed this, did not want to provide the complete set of drawings due to concerns about liability. He and I hope that the few pictures provided here will give a savvy person the answer they are looking for.
Oh, I should mention that the pulleys we used are from heavy patio doors. They come in 1", 1.25" and 1.5" diameters and with or without hardware. Here are some examples: www.primeline.net/product-categories/exterior-door-hardware/rollers-1#/pagesize=9&orderby=5 The larger diameter rollers will be easier on the cable, so I recommend those. You can buy them with or without hardware. I would get them WITHOUT hardware because several of them in this elevator system are stacked 2-wide. You are better off to buy your own hardware.
NOTE: You will need (12) of those pulley. Take a look at this photo to see where they all are: www.preyerplanning.com/Pulleys-for-Top-of-Elevator.jpg
For the pulley axle-bolts, I recommend buying grade 5 shoulder bolts, similar to this, www.amazon.com/dp/B008AY350U/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=grade+5+1%2F4-inch+shoulder+bolt&qid=1587086896&sr=8-10 of the appropriate length for your application.
Don't scrimp on quality for other hardware, either. Eye bolts, for example, should only forged, heat treated steel that look like this: images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/bd318304-fd41-4218-b4b6-caf5d6fe8d22/svn/hardware-essentials-eye-bolts-320608-0-64_1000.jpg It will be immeasurably stronger than the little bent metal ones at the home stores.
Michael Preyer
Sir, you are awesome!!!
Thank you so much for taking the time with all this information.
It is for sure greatly appreciated! 🍻
I was wondering and glad to hear the motor has a brake. 👍🏻
As for quality, I agree 100 percent !!!
In fact, I’d probably go a step more on bolts and buy grade 8 myself. (I’ve never hade grade 8..... because in my 46 years, I’ve never been let down by using grade 8 )
And nowadays there’s so much crap out there for stainless, I try to stick to 316, which is marine grade.
If have no choice I’ll use 304 stainless, but I’ve never had 316 grade fail me.
The older I get, the more and more make sure when I do a job one time!
Again, much appreciated I all the details.
@@cnvw974 Glad to help! I appreciated your words of wisdom as well. Find what works and stick with it!
Michael Preyer
How did you run the cable?
Michael Preyer
Never mind, just seen in description! Thanks!!!
At $400 that about $100 per hour if you carried them by hand on a ladder. I’ll save the money.
Get the shingles delivered from a wholesaler.
nice lift but overkill for one job. A simple ladder lift can be built for about $250 and then the 2X4s reused.
Understood, except he was testing a design. When done with lifting the shingles, he moved the elevator to his barn and reassembled it with a few improvements. Now he has a freight elevator to the loft in his barn. Even better, he has now designed a much better quality one that he and are are building into my house since I think I will be in a wheelchair in the next few years. My arthritis is taking a toll on my body.
Which codes does it comply to?
The code of secrecy!
What kind of MOTOR are you using here?
It's an 8,000 lb winch with automatic breaking.
Michael Preyer I hope you mean braking 😉
That is hilarious! Good catch. Since the motor is made in China, my typo may be too close to the truth!
Just call Lowe’s, delivery with a hydraulic fork crane.
I wonder if i could make one for a wheelchair.......
Yes. I am currently working on an upgraded version of this design as a "freight elevator" that will be large enough and strong enough for 2-people and a wheelchair. It will be 4-feet wide and 5-feet long. All of the parts of the construction must be strong enough to be safe as if people would ever be on it. :-)
JerryRigEverything made one
@@zaneball8294 - Hi Zane! If you are referring to this one that Zack installed for his wife, Cambry, he bought it and helped install it. th-cam.com/video/aqMZfQODJZo/w-d-xo.html Nice unit, but pricey! Hopefully he got it at a discount in exchange for advertising. The retail rate for that elevator is $25,000 plus the cost of any construction required. It's also really tiny. Zack would not be able to get on it along with Cambry in her wheelchair. Most people who find this video are looking for a DIY bargain, which is what I am working on. I am trying to keep mine under $2000 total parts and labor (the labor is mine and some friends). It will have a very healthy 1,500 lb lifting capacity and be large enough for 2 wheelchairs. It's been slow going, but I hope to have it done by the end of summer. When done, I'll do a video on it.
@@mailmanx69 This is a good idea.I would need one for my camp.Its elevated 10 feet off the ground.
Ever heard of a shingle vator ?
SHINGLES DOESNT CARE!
Or just pick the bundles up and put them on the roof. That roof line is like 8 feet off the ground
the time it took you to build you would have been done with roof. heck you can throw the bundles on the roof
It would be cheaper to hire someone to carry me up to my 5th floor apartment than it would be to build an elevator! That's not why people build elevators or try out ideas.
@@jeffmoore9487 i get it. but his roof is barely 8 ft. thats what i was basing it off of. not a 5 story apartment. it would be genius if it were a 5 story apartment.
but then OSHA wouldn't approve
we just carried the shingles up.....
Yup. I guess you overlooked the very first line of my video description. This was not built "just" for taking shingles up. It was an experiment to verify that it would work. It has now been moved into a barn where it is used to move supplies to an upper loft. A few improvements were made and more bracing was added. It works great!
By the time you built this you could have carried the shingles up and still had time for some brew
True, but that wasn't the point. We are engineers. We love to build and tinker. We also like to take simple things and complexify them! It was a fun little experiment. Besides, Dan had a long-term plan. When he disassembled the elevator after the roof was done, he improved the design and put it in his 2-story barn as a freight elevator.
Or you could have Gone to any self respecting roofing supplier and gotten roof top delivery for less than 400 bucks lol.
I checked. None of the roofing guys in my area have any self-respect! What was I to do? LOL!!
hahaha I figured maybe you live out in the boondocks.
tphone720 .... At the age of 71, this looks like a very viable gizmo....
All that for a single story house wtf
Booooooom truck
Where's the fun in that? No challenge! I getcha, though. There certainly are easier ways. However, us engineering-types are a strange breed. We look for reasons to design and build things.
Can it carry a human?
Obviously they just lifted 630 lb of shingles . Would imagine there are some hazards and pinch points for humans though
How long did it take to burn up winch
Oh ye of little faith! It has a half-life of 20-years, so we are good for a while.
So many problems I noticed in this, Crosby clips are on backwards and the way that winch is mounted you are asking to hurt yourself or someone else. It's a good idea but if you don't truly know about hoisting and rigging and elevators leave the idea alone.
$400? No way! The 6x6x20 treated posts alone would cost 3/4 of that total. Unless this was built pre pandemic? Otherwise, nice build but; closer $800 would be more accurate.
Correction, 4x4x20.
well the date on the video post description says 3/1/2017 so...
a crane would of done it for 50$
We are both engineers. Engineers are a strange breed that enjoys designing and building things even when simple options already exist. In fact, if a simple option exists, we feel compelled to make it more complex! Dan, my friend and the designer, learned from this effort. He improved it and moved it to his 2-story barn for transferring stuff between floors. It continues to live on today.
I admire the effort, but you have to pick up each bundle, place it in the elevator then unload at the top.
On a 1 story, I think any place would deliver those on the roof for free.
If not, it's 9' off the ground, for $400 I'll come carry them up.
Where's the fun in that? We are engineers! We love to design and build things. If they aren't complicated, we try to make them so!
Michael Preyer I applaud you for making work fun then 👏😊
I'm thinking a simple ramp to the top of the roof would take less wood and less design have a look at my video, simple.
roofinghoist.com has links to many videos of a roofing hoist that lifts over 500 lbs and weighs only 70 pounds. Over 350 built since hurricane Katrina. You only have to attach a hoist motor and the platform to you own ladder.
This is where the saying spend a dime to save a nickel comes from.
EASIER AND CHEAPER TO RENT THE RIG FOR THE LADDER. PLUS IT IS JUST A RANCH HOUSE, COULD EASILY CARRY.
Understood, except he was testing a design. When done with lifting the shingles, he moved the elevator to his barn and reassembled it with a few improvements. Now he has a freight elevator to the loft in his barn. Even better, he has now designed a much better quality one that he and are are building into my house since I think I will be in a wheelchair in the next few years. My arthritis is taking a toll on my body.
You dont put a saddle on the dead end of the horse .
But you can certainly put a muzzle on a jackass!
Dang autocorrect....an not and....
Should have added counterweight
I see lots of comments asking about why are people so negative. If you are a professional engineer as I am you have taken an oath to protect the public. SO I make comments when I see a post that I BELIEVE could lead others getting hurt. If an engineer was to post a video like this they could be liable for anyone who gets hurt or killed so obviously this guy is not an engineer so he is building something without understanding engineering principles and specific safety requirements (for when principles go wrong i.e. "shake" in a beam). I teach strength of materials, statics, and dynamics to engineers and yet I would not be comfortable building this device. (I have rebuilt 6 homes and build a post and beam home).
So I am not being negative I am being proactive to others who might not be so lucky by pointing out where things can go wrong. The first things engineers learn is to give and accept constructive criticism because when you make mistakes people can die. Just look at the news where professionally design hoists, cranes, and scaffolding are collapsing and people are dying. Don't take the chance! your life is not worth a few hundred bucks.
Hi Gregory - Thanks for the feedback. We appreciate all comments.
You could engineer a wet paper bag and someone somewhere would die in it. Sometimes, you just have to trust people with their own freedom to accidentally injure themselves.
@@kevinfishburne you are correct and if you want to see that sort of stuff you search for "fails". Many many people come to TH-cam for advice and ideas on how to do something. That is the power of the TH-cam community and as an avid TH-camr I was just pointing out that for those that want to experiment with lifting devices "be wery wery careful!" this stuff will kill you faster and in more ways than a wet paper bag. th-cam.com/video/zZUJLO6lMhI/w-d-xo.html
@@mfsolutions LOL. It is true. I've done a lot of projects and generally over-engineer them to varying degrees, but my tentative home elevator project idea has given me pause more than the others. There are a lot of things that can go wrong, including operator error. I'll probably just plan it to death and if it smells right in the end see if I can make it happen. Life would be torturously boring without fun projects. :)
@@kevinfishburne I am in the process of designing one as well for people (me)... I had toyed with the winch idea but will probably go with homemade hydraulics with a pressure balancing system..in the case of failure there is no movement. I design hydraulic presses so I will stick with what I am familiar and plan for failure...cause that will happen to every system eventually. That is why we call is a "fail safe".
Ya jest be sure ta git authorized, certified, & verified by the county mounties before ya install that dumbwaiter, er ya'll be breakin' the law boy!
Seriously tho, aside from the DIYasm ya get from the "tinker factor", he probably coulda tiled his roof faster, & cost less to get a helper, and he wouldn't need to dismantle a temporary project facility at project end, to boot!
But the $64K question really issss..... drum roll here please....why was it built 10'? above the roof line?
BTW, anybody else ever tell ya yer really easily excited!
Uh oh, the Warden has struck! Don't worry, Scruffmeister, it was designed by an Aerospace Tooling Engineer. It was peer reviewed by an Aerospace Manufacturing Engineer (not me, my supervisor). It was stress analyzed by an Aerospace Stress Engineer. A lot of my friends at work are quite interested in this project. 100 of the county's best inspectifiers couldn't do any better.
Besides, don't ever forget the possibilities mentioned by the infamous Steven Tyler: "Love In An Elevator!" Ha!
The elevator shaft was built 10-feet above the roofline for 2-reasons:
1) He wanted it at least tall enough to stop about 4-feet above the roof so it's easy to pull bundles off the platform without bending over.
2) He purchased 16-foot 4X4's and he did not want to cut them yet. That's because this elevator will be removed then rebuilt (new and improved!) in his barn after the roof is done. He can cut the 4X4's to the final size at that time. It will be a cheap elevator for his barn and it will have been FREE for his roof shingles! So there! Neener, neener!
There's the problem! It was peer reviewed (overkilled) by enginears! Adding the cost of the hi-priced enginearing time used, not to even mention the distraction factor from the impotent NGRAC projects that suffered, and the cost more than doubled! If it was reviewed by a good Imaginary Enginear it woulda never got to the starting blocks!
As fer the barn; whatsamatta with using a rope pulley to reach a loft, that can be taken down when not used like real farmers do?! It would only take up space in midair, only when needed, not alla time like a sure to rust & breakdown, seldom used dumbwaiter! Err....did all youse Enginear Extraordinairs fergit that "Space truly is the final frontier"?!
Finally, can I hide & watch while ya tell the county mounties that "100 of the county's best inspectifiers couldn't do any better"?!
So you are saying that an "imaginary engineer", like you, would give me an "imaginary elevator?"