“I think Loki can be addressed somehow” yeah Last month when Mobius came out lol literally was put into the game to counter Loki/ Sera/ cost reduction decks. Lol Mobius isn’t in the game anymore so of course Loki is problem again. SD needs to bring back Mobius at a 4/3 with his original ability. I haven’t seen one Mobius since he was murdered in his sleep
I am with you. I get Mobius kills a lot of decks ... so they get rid of him and literally every match in this vid is a Loki mirror. Ugh God f this game 😰
@Stickyz It's not about excitement. We learned from September that Loki's an unreasonable card, and making him 4 cost doesn't change it that much. Heck, the best deck in October was an Elsa deck with Loki in it, and that was when Mobius was in full force. Loki's been the top of the meta ever since his release, even when Mobius was a very prevalent card. Then, they remove the only card that counters him and his dominance becomes even stronger.
Isn't it just great how the vast majority of "best decks" require lots of s5/newly released cards so it's impossible to play at a high level unlwss you fork over a ton of money? I know I love it, as do all my fellow free to play players! And it definitely makes me more inclined to make my first purchase at some point in the future!
I am free to play & have WW, Niko, Ravonna, Mobius, ManThing, etc. just collect your caches.. altough I've been playing Snap since an year.. feel you though, lame collection system..
I agree, at the start of the game the series 5 cards all went down at one point except galactus thanos but it was announced, but over time they released very strong cards which were supposed to go down to series 4 (hello jeff) but ultimately no from there the game became a little more Pay to win
Loki needs to lose the cost reduction. You want cost reduction? Run quinjet, it has counterplay. 3/5 loki without cost reduction would have been strong, but not insane.
Or give Mobius his old ability with a 3/1 or a 4/3 cost and stat line. Lol funny how people are complaining about Loki again just like September before Mobius dropped… it’s almost like Mobius was a necessary evil just like Shang chi. Why kill two new cards that haven’t even been out long when you can just easily balance tge cards. Loki is fine a 4/5 given that Mobius should be a counter to Loki but was removed from the game. This is Loki season all over again.Are people surprised that Mobius’ death brought back Loki and better than ever. Cost reduction needs a counter str8 up, Loki and Sera are completely counter free and able to do their thing with no way to stop it unless you play Sandman on 5, but that hurts Sera more than Loki cuz Loki can power dump big on turn 5. Mobius needs to be a 3/1 with a ongoing ability that reads “your opponent can’t reduce their card cost”. Boom I fixed the meta
@@V1Variant Loki can keep the cost reduction... by playing Quinjet previously like every other card that gives you more cards As it is compare him to Nick Fury, a card with similar stats, cost and effect and he is superior in every way.
Content creators need to make a stand against SD for their predatory use of patches and temporary cards to go against those of us with limited resources. On top of all this they are not wanting to hear negative feedback anymore. I can tell you know this meta is a problem at the very least.
Wolversnap did a video but he’s not very popular which is a shame because he deserves more views and subscribers, he’s just as good as Alex and Cozy. Cozy is too close to SD and doesn’t wanna burn his bridge so Cozy will mention the Mobius was a heavy handed nerf but he won’t call out SD for being predatory.
Cozy is terrible lol If you're still Watchung cozy and you finished pool 3 you really need better creators. Big dekkster, dera, kmbest, Regis and there are a few others. Jeff is a great player too if you can stomach his horrible behavior irl and his politics he has to shove into everything he does 🤣
Well Mobius isn’t in the game anymore so what can you do, Loki has no counter outside of Sandman on 5 but they probably already dumped a lot of power on 5 anyways. So until they bring back MMM at a 3/2 or a 4/3 with his ongoing ability, Loki and Sera are back on top until otherwise. Very stupid to remove Mobius from the game, idk 🤷♂️ maybe SD wants Loki back on top
24 hours later I can say Loki is bigger than he was in September, nothing but Quinjet and Lokis. The mirror matches are getting insane, I got my collector buffed up to 32. We need Mobius back in some form or this will never go away unless they remove Loki from the game too.
Well, well, well... new card comes out and its fucking busted! Better buy it! Oh, its getting nerfed soon! Wait, a new card! Its fucking busted! Ad nauseum I swear. Anyways, enough of my bitching, take my like and comment for the algorithm
Sera/Surfer deck, I've just hit Infinite rank & Infinite conquest with it, or either a Move/Surfer fusion, I've also tried him in buffed Ravonna/Hawk deck with a lot of low cost on reveals, still fun :)
I seriously hate this deck, I think it's both boring to play it yourself, but it's also boring to play against. But oh well, hopefully this current meta won't last for long.
My idea of fixing Mobius is just to either make it a card that prevents your cards from getting their cost up or their cards cost down. Have just one of those effects. And then return it to an ongoing as a 3/3. That would just solve so much for this card
They did, I’d guess they wanna drive up sales for Renslayer and Loki. Only to return Mobius to the game in a couple weeks. The negative feedback was so loud and frequent that they removed the ability to give negative feedback. Now it’s give us positive feedback or don’t say anything at all. Which is very childish of them. So sensitive they don’t even wanna read bad feedback on their decisions. Imagine if real life was like that, real world doesn’t work that way.
This video is gonna get a ton of hate I bet but 2 things need to be said. 1. Even though this deck is extremely popular I think that’s okay because it’s doesn’t have as high of a win rate as something like Shuri or Thanos did in their hay day because it’s a lot more complex and not at all straight forward to play. 2. The Meta is actually way more diverse right now than people make it out to be. Even with Mobius gone there are lots of viable decks to play and most actually have higher win rates than Loki according to the stats. I think people’s gut reaction to Mobius getting the axe was to freak out before letting things settle. Overall he was way too strong of a card and even though he kept Loki in check he also hurt lots of other decks that didn’t deserve to become borderline unplayable such as Sera, Zabu Darkhawk, Stature Decks, Swarms and many more. I trust Second Dinner overall when it comes to balancing because they’ve been very good in the past and if Loki really does become too strong they can just give him the (minimum 1) treatment like other cost reduction gets or maybe he doesn’t reduce cost at all and only Quinjet does that. Either way I think Mobius did need to get changed because he was causing more harm than good, however they maybe went a bit overboard but he never should of been in every deck in the first place imo.
7:38 Why not play the Maria Hill in the left lane? Falcon doesn’t care if the 1 drops are in the same lane. So you could have gotten 2 more procs on werewolf (4 more power) while still having everything else be the same. Was it to avoid Shang or was it just that werewolf breaks all of our brains?
I feel like you can’t open a good card on its first spotlight anymore. So I get to wait until Dec for Wolf. Goodbye agency EDIT. I didn’t mean on the first pull. Probability hasn’t changed. Rather I meant getting it when it is first available isn’t worth it and it is better to just wait until the second time it comes around so you can see where it lands value wise. Which sucks.
@@swedishZ0mBi3 I didn’t mean opening it in the first one. I meant the first time it was available. You can tell Werewolf is a good card and is going to get changed but how much?
I spent resources on the cool Mobius variants and the card itself just to have him completely removed from the game. And now the meta is so terrible again. What was the plan? Mobius was lowering in play-rate naturally anyways
Bishop could be an option. Nico a bit difficult to replace. But depending which spell you want, you can add another card that does the same. She is like seven cards in 1.
Snaps, it shows more and more that you don't play the game - chat does. You make too many stupid mistakes for a dude that makes money on this game. If not for chat, your plays would be unwatchable. But as it stands now, you spend too much time "counceling" to get the right plays.
“I think Loki can be addressed somehow” yeah Last month when Mobius came out lol literally was put into the game to counter Loki/ Sera/ cost reduction decks. Lol Mobius isn’t in the game anymore so of course Loki is problem again. SD needs to bring back Mobius at a 4/3 with his original ability. I haven’t seen one Mobius since he was murdered in his sleep
I saw one Mobius, and he wasn't upgraded at all, maybe the poor guy just got him lol.
I am with you. I get Mobius kills a lot of decks ... so they get rid of him and literally every match in this vid is a Loki mirror. Ugh God f this game 😰
Loki is everywhere right now because people are excited to finally be able to play him again without mobius menace
@@dickwad4712 yeah MMM is like Shang chi, he’s a necessary Evil to keep Loki and Sera in check
@Stickyz It's not about excitement.
We learned from September that Loki's an unreasonable card, and making him 4 cost doesn't change it that much. Heck, the best deck in October was an Elsa deck with Loki in it, and that was when Mobius was in full force. Loki's been the top of the meta ever since his release, even when Mobius was a very prevalent card.
Then, they remove the only card that counters him and his dominance becomes even stronger.
Isn't it just great how the vast majority of "best decks" require lots of s5/newly released cards so it's impossible to play at a high level unlwss you fork over a ton of money? I know I love it, as do all my fellow free to play players! And it definitely makes me more inclined to make my first purchase at some point in the future!
Has nothing to do with money has everything to do with time, I’m season pass only and I pretty much keep up with my spotlight caches
I mean f2p players can still get these cards with time. I'm f2p and been able to get the good cards I want with spotlights.
I am free to play & have WW, Niko, Ravonna, Mobius, ManThing, etc. just collect your caches.. altough I've been playing Snap since an year.. feel you though, lame collection system..
I agree, at the start of the game the series 5 cards all went down at one point except galactus thanos but it was announced, but over time they released very strong cards which were supposed to go down to series 4 (hello jeff) but ultimately no from there the game became a little more Pay to win
@@graysonwoods8465season pass is not comparable to f2p
Loki needs to lose the cost reduction. You want cost reduction? Run quinjet, it has counterplay. 3/5 loki without cost reduction would have been strong, but not insane.
Or give Mobius his old ability with a 3/1 or a 4/3 cost and stat line. Lol funny how people are complaining about Loki again just like September before Mobius dropped… it’s almost like Mobius was a necessary evil just like Shang chi. Why kill two new cards that haven’t even been out long when you can just easily balance tge cards. Loki is fine a 4/5 given that Mobius should be a counter to Loki but was removed from the game. This is Loki season all over again.Are people surprised that Mobius’ death brought back Loki and better than ever. Cost reduction needs a counter str8 up, Loki and Sera are completely counter free and able to do their thing with no way to stop it unless you play Sandman on 5, but that hurts Sera more than Loki cuz Loki can power dump big on turn 5. Mobius needs to be a 3/1 with a ongoing ability that reads “your opponent can’t reduce their card cost”. Boom I fixed the meta
Mobius kills multiple decks that will pay for Loki's sins.
Not just that but even with Mobius in play Loki wasn't bad, LOKI is busted.
Exactly, Loki with the current cost reduction is totally cracked.
Loki can't lose cost reduction lol that's the whole function of the card 😂😂😂
@@V1Variant Loki can keep the cost reduction... by playing Quinjet previously like every other card that gives you more cards
As it is compare him to Nick Fury, a card with similar stats, cost and effect and he is superior in every way.
Content creators need to make a stand against SD for their predatory use of patches and temporary cards to go against those of us with limited resources. On top of all this they are not wanting to hear negative feedback anymore.
I can tell you know this meta is a problem at the very least.
I mean most content creator do
Wolversnap did a video but he’s not very popular which is a shame because he deserves more views and subscribers, he’s just as good as Alex and Cozy. Cozy is too close to SD and doesn’t wanna burn his bridge so Cozy will mention the Mobius was a heavy handed nerf but he won’t call out SD for being predatory.
Cozy is terrible lol
If you're still Watchung cozy and you finished pool 3 you really need better creators.
Big dekkster, dera, kmbest, Regis and there are a few others.
Jeff is a great player too if you can stomach his horrible behavior irl and his politics he has to shove into everything he does 🤣
Cozy is great for new players but once you learn the game it's like asking a flat earth person for advice about science
I did not want to see Loki as the top deck again
Well Mobius isn’t in the game anymore so what can you do, Loki has no counter outside of Sandman on 5 but they probably already dumped a lot of power on 5 anyways. So until they bring back MMM at a 3/2 or a 4/3 with his ongoing ability, Loki and Sera are back on top until otherwise. Very stupid to remove Mobius from the game, idk 🤷♂️ maybe SD wants Loki back on top
@@Woozie87sandman isn’t even a counter to Loki. Sandman is one less power then Loki and needs an electro setup to be played the same turn.
24 hours later I can say Loki is bigger than he was in September, nothing but Quinjet and Lokis. The mirror matches are getting insane, I got my collector buffed up to 32. We need Mobius back in some form or this will never go away unless they remove Loki from the game too.
Loki made me take a 3 week break it was so lame
At least rn there are different loki builds instead of the same frickin 12 cards
So glad they destroyed MMM , infine Loki mirror is the best meta we’ve ever had! Such fun! Such diversity!
I’m starting to hate this game
Lol r u being sarcastic? If not I respectfully disagree.
And yet again, Elsa and Loki take over…
Elsa lmao.
Well, well, well... new card comes out and its fucking busted! Better buy it! Oh, its getting nerfed soon! Wait, a new card! Its fucking busted! Ad nauseum I swear.
Anyways, enough of my bitching, take my like and comment for the algorithm
Where does wolf fit best? I’ve been liking surfer but it’s definitely big brain to use him.
I would say it fits best in this deck
This deck, or Surfer if not. I haven't seen him do anything too impressive with Move, but move needs some overhaul to begin with.
@@jalengattonnot traditional move, no. But silky smoove with kraven & silk & that kind of stuff? Yeah. Shit goes nuts.
I’ve had decent success with wolf in a monkey miracle deck with Thor and Jane
Sera/Surfer deck, I've just hit Infinite rank & Infinite conquest with it, or either a Move/Surfer fusion, I've also tried him in buffed Ravonna/Hawk deck with a lot of low cost on reveals, still fun :)
I seriously hate this deck, I think it's both boring to play it yourself, but it's also boring to play against. But oh well, hopefully this current meta won't last for long.
word, Loki needs to be adressed, 4 cost with this ability + quinjet ist just insane.
@@blackou7Loki is a problem but it’s not him that needs to be addressed, we need a counter card to address Loki.
Love ur video dekks really useful tips helped me climb ladder thank you goated
My idea of fixing Mobius is just to either make it a card that prevents your cards from getting their cost up or their cards cost down. Have just one of those effects. And then return it to an ongoing as a 3/3. That would just solve so much for this card
Snowguard low key op especially since it’s great counter to magik . Keep it on the DL though don’t want anymore nerfs.
Loki is everywhere again and you know this would happen, i know this would happen, how SD don't?
They did, I’d guess they wanna drive up sales for Renslayer and Loki. Only to return Mobius to the game in a couple weeks. The negative feedback was so loud and frequent that they removed the ability to give negative feedback. Now it’s give us positive feedback or don’t say anything at all. Which is very childish of them. So sensitive they don’t even wanna read bad feedback on their decisions. Imagine if real life was like that, real world doesn’t work that way.
any substitutes for nico and falcon? im f2p and didnt luck out with either of them
This video is gonna get a ton of hate I bet but 2 things need to be said. 1. Even though this deck is extremely popular I think that’s okay because it’s doesn’t have as high of a win rate as something like Shuri or Thanos did in their hay day because it’s a lot more complex and not at all straight forward to play. 2. The Meta is actually way more diverse right now than people make it out to be. Even with Mobius gone there are lots of viable decks to play and most actually have higher win rates than Loki according to the stats. I think people’s gut reaction to Mobius getting the axe was to freak out before letting things settle. Overall he was way too strong of a card and even though he kept Loki in check he also hurt lots of other decks that didn’t deserve to become borderline unplayable such as Sera, Zabu Darkhawk, Stature Decks, Swarms and many more. I trust Second Dinner overall when it comes to balancing because they’ve been very good in the past and if Loki really does become too strong they can just give him the (minimum 1) treatment like other cost reduction gets or maybe he doesn’t reduce cost at all and only Quinjet does that. Either way I think Mobius did need to get changed because he was causing more harm than good, however they maybe went a bit overboard but he never should of been in every deck in the first place imo.
yay another loki deck!
can i put in kitty pride insted of snowguard or smth else
What do I use if I don't have Nico? I have everything else.
7:38 Why not play the Maria Hill in the left lane? Falcon doesn’t care if the 1 drops are in the same lane. So you could have gotten 2 more procs on werewolf (4 more power) while still having everything else be the same. Was it to avoid Shang or was it just that werewolf breaks all of our brains?
I feel like you can’t open a good card on its first spotlight anymore. So I get to wait until Dec for Wolf. Goodbye agency
EDIT. I didn’t mean on the first pull. Probability hasn’t changed. Rather I meant getting it when it is first available isn’t worth it and it is better to just wait until the second time it comes around so you can see where it lands value wise. Which sucks.
By then he will be nerfed.. lol
Save up 4 and you dont have to gamble..
I got Nico & WW first try
@@swedishZ0mBi3 I didn’t mean opening it in the first one. I meant the first time it was available. You can tell Werewolf is a good card and is going to get changed but how much?
@@Mojo009 right so why bother using resources for a month
How crucial is snowguard and Nico. I reckon can just sub in agent 13 and rogue/cosmo
finally won my first Infinity Conquest with this deck
I spent resources on the cool Mobius variants and the card itself just to have him completely removed from the game. And now the meta is so terrible again. What was the plan? Mobius was lowering in play-rate naturally anyways
U know the best card in snap is a credit card..! Ben must of gave u a spanking lol.. !
god damn, nico and wolf are great cards, I can't wait to get them.
love your content
I wont be getting Wolf or Nico anytime soon 😂 any suggestions on replacements?
Bishop could be an option. Nico a bit difficult to replace. But depending which spell you want, you can add another card that does the same. She is like seven cards in 1.
Snap just gets worse and worse. Time to Meta Miss 😅 Tbf, I haven't played since Loki
Lamb Fam rise up
What could be replaced for snow guard?
Not as good as Snow guard but you could try Agent 13 instead
I saw the video thumbnail and said fuck it lets open chaches for wolf he seems good then i also got loki from the series 5 spotlight cache lol
Who can I put in for nico? Is agent 13 fine?
I went with Luke Cage
Quin Jet
Oh look at that. It’s just a bunch of recently released overtuned cards awaiting their needs to make way for the next overtuned cards…
Put loki cost min to 3 makes this game so much better
Having elsa and ware wolf is contradicting
Loki sg elsa ww and nico these are all series 5 LOL I didnt even have a single one of them
WHY IS ELSA IN EVERY DECK 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I like this deck but I do agree that I am a person that just thinks Elsa is clunky in it.
How can i replace snowguard?
anything that gives u more cards in hand
i admittedly do enjoy playing Loki, but the constant mirror matches makes it so unfun to play in my opinion.
5 series 5 cards right?
Das a lot
falcon replacement?
I don't have Elsa 😢
This ain’t it for me. Hope this addres Loki soon. Game is in shambles
Dekkster
nico replacement please
Still waiting for Nico and Werewolf. New Cache system is a joke.
bummer, I got lucky & pulled them both from 1st try. System still sucks though.
come on guys, it's not that hard 🙄
Snaps, it shows more and more that you don't play the game - chat does. You make too many stupid mistakes for a dude that makes money on this game. If not for chat, your plays would be unwatchable. But as it stands now, you spend too much time "counceling" to get the right plays.
Loki lame AF bruh!
Click bait, nothing special in bounce Loki deck
Boring meta again lmao
I just won infinty boarder with shuri phoenix, and this is def the best deck since WEEKS
Loki decks are randon mess and sucks at conquest
True! Then again ladder is much fun.